cloud wharf
i think the fastwest way to do this challenge is prob to manually justify on fra and england
#challenge-questions
lapis python
Why is everyone posting submissions with them opening the diplomacy screen do I need to do that
glacial stratus
Why is everyone posting submissions with them opening the diplomacy screen do I ...
its to showcase that you are non-aligned (even though it can be observed by your flag/nation name)
lapis python
Oh right so as long as it shows my name as German empire I’m fine right
glacial stratus
just a precaution, add bonus points to your submission, whether its legit or not
lapis python
Dang ok I might do that just that run is very scuffed because my screenshot was taken moments before the Dutch and EU declared war on me whilst the US was justifying on me
lapis python
Ok thanks
signal frost
Can we give land to other countries from France and Britain like giving Savoy to Italy and Northern Ireland to Ireland?
glacial stratus
Can we give land to other countries from France and Britain like giving Savoy to...
not really, since you need 1936 game start cores
so you have to have Northern 🇮🇪 and etc.
signal frost
RIP funny borders
steel cargo
why does britain go fascist with historical on?
signal frost
why does britain go fascist with historical on?
To balance the game.
Britain goes ahistorical if Germany removes hitler
empty lintel
To balance the game.
Britain goes ahistorical if Germany removes hitler
or communist?
signal frost
or communist?
How about does the focus "Oppose Hitler"
worldly surge
yeah
glacial stratus
@ornate thunder you are not allowed for the contest
you already won a place at previous one
winners cannot participate in next challenge, there is cooldown
ornate thunder
ik
glacial stratus
you are allowed after this one is finished
ornate thunder
can i just post
glacial stratus
no
ornate thunder
bruh
glacial stratus
it violates the rules, so no posting until this one is done
ornate thunder
can i post it here
bitter thistle
you could have done this sooner if you picked the army attack advisor...
ornate thunder
ik
hearty glacier
So its just speedrun to form hre?
ornate thunder
No
hearty glacier
why
hearty glacier
i wanted to meme it and turn commie after forming hre
glacial stratus
i wanted to meme it and turn commie after forming hre
you have to be non-aligned
not necessarily HRE
don't even have to bring Kaiser from 🇳🇱
hearty glacier
what do i have to do to win then
charred timber
what do i have to do to win then
you have to be non aligned and ''form'' the german empire
but german empire is the casual name for non-aligned germany
that would technically mean, you can do valkyrie and make von Kluge country leader
@glacial stratus the most based non-aligned germany:
glacial stratus
what do i have to do to win then
read rules pinned in the channel?
hearty glacier
you have to be non aligned and ''form'' the german empire
Who are you
charred timber
Who are you
im Vaipts
glacial stratus
I am me
charred timber
friends call me Vapiss
glacial stratus
not very charming
hearty glacier
read rules pinned in the channel?
Whats the point of this "challenge" if its chosen by rng
charred timber
Whats the point of this "challenge" if its chosen by rng
you can win a dlc, even as a bad hoi4 player
glacial stratus
Whats the point of this "challenge" if its chosen by rng
never heard of lotteries before, comrade? 😄
hearty glacier
Its not competitive if 1 state disaster save can win
charred timber
never heard of lotteries before, comrade? 😄
whats the point of lottery? just get a job man
glacial stratus
Its not competitive if 1 state disaster save can win
there are 2 types of challenges, one is random, the other is timed one
hearty glacier
whats the point of lottery? just get a job man
Lets play Roblox
glacial stratus
each challenge goes by 2 week time limit
timed ones have winners based on their speedrunning to do the x objective
this one is random so that more people can participate , they are relatively easy to do
charred timber
Lets play Roblox
BelgiumRemover1914
charred timber
guess i have to play either argetina, or hoi4 1945, so i can nuke this place
hearty glacier
BelgiumRemover1914
added
tacit sapphire
U should do a polish contest
Annex both USSR and Germany
def not bc i did it earlier
(peace of cake ngl)
twilit mica
can I use some mods that are iroman compatible, like additonal plane models (i like mine to be pretty lol)
I have anime compatible mod so plz no judge
solid gust
can I use some mods that are iroman compatible, like additonal plane models (i l...
any mod that is cosmetic only is fine, have your anime waifu generals
flint river
any mod that is cosmetic only is fine, have your anime waifu generals
What do you define as punish, could I destroy their colonial empire without capitulating them?
bitter thistle
What do you define as punish, could I destroy their colonial empire without capi...
All you gotta do is annex their starting cores
Doesn't matter what you do to their empires
charred timber
Do i get an imaginary bonus point if i do a cursed map?
ornate thunder
No
fickle river
that would technically mean, you can do valkyrie and make von Kluge country lead...
i have never seen that in my life, that is something else
fickle river
!
well, finding every possible way to exist is not much of a playing
if that is your argument
charred timber
So you telling me you never played germany and conquered russia?
fickle river
So you telling me you never played germany and conquered russia?
no?
worldly surge
Wait does Argentina have a non aligned advisor it can appoint after going fourth Reich
worldly surge
i have never seen that in my life, that is something else
I’ve accidentally done it before
I just didn’t know what getting extra divisions from the SS was going to do
glacial stratus
Wait does Argentina have a non aligned advisor it can appoint after going fourth...
maybe Peron? via focuses if requirements allow it
worldly surge
maybe Peron? via focuses if requirements allow it
I could’ve gone 4th Reich Argentina and taken over the world 😭😭😭
still dagger
Unironically Majapahit is one of the strongest countries in the game
glacial stratus
Unironically Majapahit is one of the strongest countries in the game
bro necroed old ahh comment lol
well , the region is boring because it has no focus trees
not because "the region is "boring" so it has no focus trees"
signal frost
Does Operation Valkyrie, has Himmler as field marshal...
Odd
charred timber
Does Operation Valkyrie, has Himmler as field marshal...
Odd
yes
iron valve
What are the prizes and how many winners are there?
tacit sapphire
I did a almost polish wc yesterday
Russia was easier to fight as Poland
Than Germany
Legit took a year
glacial stratus
What are the prizes and how many winners are there?
first place gets DLC of their choosing
second and third places get armor/music pack of their choice
iron valve
first place gets DLC of their choosing
second and third places get armor/music p...
even if its fully rng (like there is no actual 2nd and 3rd place)?
glacial stratus
even if its fully rng (like there is no actual 2nd and 3rd place)?
no , its chosen by rng
like its randomizer for 1st, 2nd and 3rd places respectively
you could be picked for 1st or 3rd places, depending on your luck
iron valve
kinda lame, like how you have to be super lucky to be already picked, but then get slapped with a music pack because you werent chosen 1st, like its stacked luck
empty lintel
you could be picked for 1st or 3rd places, depending on your luck
or have bad luck and not be choosen
lol
iron valve
or have bad luck and not be choosen
yeah, or that...
glacial stratus
kinda lame, like how you have to be super lucky to be already picked, but then g...
you can wait 2 weeks for hardcore speedrun challenge
iron valve
you can wait 2 weeks for hardcore speedrun challenge
lol, im not that good at hoi4 to speedrun anything, this challenge is my only ever chance for a dlc, and for a hoard of other people aswell
glacial stratus
lol, im not that good at hoi4 to speedrun anything, this challenge is my only ev...
have fun!
iron valve
😄
worldly surge
wait you cant win again after winning a challenge, right?
so if i get 3rd place i cant try again in another challange
solid gust
if you win a prize, you are locked out of winning the very next one (you can still participate and I encourage you to)
still dagger
I swear I am never doing this dumb thing again
worldly surge
I swear I am never doing this dumb thing again
bro quit after the easiest
still dagger
Nah, me and Chak were joking about a Inf only run
tacit sapphire
(i totally dont do that every game)
Fr
@marsh cairn entirely wrong submission
And
U cheated as well
Ironman was off
solid gust
It was a modded game (RT56) so it does not count regardless, I have removed the submission. I will check on all the submissions again to check for invalid ones on Friday just in case to remind people if they need to redo/repost
dusty perch
solid gust
its in the pinned comment of this channel
marsh cairn
<@971444462960140338> entirely wrong submission
MB I didn't realize the channel
tacit sapphire
rip
glacial stratus
could i have a hint on what the next challenge is?
its set on planet Earth
it must be done on the latest vanilla patch
graphic mods are allowed, as long as they don't interfere with gameplay and ironman mode
and you will have to conquer someone else's land
people will die for your cause
game must start at 1936
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269724186998345738/1280470367898701825/pepepointanimated.gif
tacit sapphire
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269724186998345738/1280470367898701825/p...
I hope your pillow is warm
charred timber
game must start at 1936
and paratroopers are most likely not allowed
glacial stratus
you can't give it away man what da hell
glacial stratus
i hope the next challenge is all about playing as really underpowered non-major nation and leading it to glory
as Tibet, get all of China and Asia 😈
or forming that one big formable as Indonesia or Malaysia (available on vanilla without any dlcs)
glacial stratus
Spain had one challenge, its time is done
although i wouldnt mind returning as Anarchists
tacit sapphire
No
glacial stratus
we never had Liberia challenge though
or Africa challenge in a while
its Democracy soooo 😈
solid gust
although i wouldnt mind returning as Anarchists
we've already done an anarchists challenge
doesn't mean there won't be another one but there won't be one for some time
glacial stratus
we've already done an anarchists challenge
oh yeah, right
glacial stratus
“As Poland create a massive colonial empire”
thing is its a hardcore challenge right
and the last one was Iran and the one before was Mongolia i think
Europe is best for the ez pz ones imo
although Chak is the boss to decide in the end, we are obeying his will 
glacial stratus
Europe is best for the ez pz ones imo
unless its WC as Luxembourg or Turkey lol
solid gust
Europe is best for the ez pz ones imo
i disagree, the easiest ones tend to be in asia and south america
European ones are more Straightforward
glacial stratus
i disagree, the easiest ones tend to be in asia and south america
i meant Europe since infrastructure is not a terrible compared to Asia or SA
isnt that the whole purpose of hardcore challenge, to make our lives miserable? 😄
tacit sapphire
Chak no like us
tacit sapphire
im canadian, after all
Do u live with moose
And drink maple syrup
And say sorry
solid gust
ah but you see, I am from Quebec, the normal rules do not apply to me
empty lintel
ah but you see, I am from Quebec, the normal rules do not apply to me
do you speak french?
glacial stratus
more like 🍷
tacit sapphire
solid gust
do you speak french?
I speak English (birth language), French, and I used to be able to speak portugese and italian to a degree but I've forgotten everything.
Currently I am learning Mandarin to be able to speak with my spouse's family who don't speak english so well
tacit sapphire
Egg roll?
solid gust
that is culturally insensitive.
tacit sapphire
Woops
zinc parrot
Chak I have an idea for another challenge
As the ussr retake Alaska BY WAR
And own it
glacial stratus
As the ussr retake Alaska BY WAR
the thing is challenge needs to be without DLC focuses and decisions attached to it
for example Persia is a formable that could be done without any DLC, so it also needs to be taken to consideration
signal frost
the thing is challenge needs to be without DLC focuses and decisions attached to...
Isn't that base game
zinc parrot
Isn't that base game
Yes
signal frost
Just give South Shakalin and go down that focus path
glacial stratus
oh right, forgot Historical part of focus is free for everyone
zinc parrot
But I said you would have to get it from war
glacial stratus
still its not even hard to do
zinc parrot
Just like slide a picture of you being at war with the allies
glacial stratus
compared to smth like conquering all of China as Mongolia, its uber easy to do
tacit sapphire
As the ussr retake Alaska BY WAR
Bet?
Saw how to do it in a recent isp video
Or chaotic florius
zinc parrot
Saw how to do it in a recent isp video
Which one?
tacit sapphire
Which one?
Uh
Newer isp channel I think
Can’t find the video
But it’s going from far eastern Russia to Seattle
zinc parrot
Interesting
short wraith
ok so we just need to annex mainland France and English Isles right?
still dagger
Yes
lucid cliff
what was this week challange again?
The annex France and UK as German Empire is still going on right?
zinc parrot
The annex France and UK as German Empire is still going on right?
Yes
zinc parrot
what was this week challange again?
Check #hearts-of-iron-news
glacial stratus
Chak, will you do any contest with the possibility of winning next DLC
like once before it releases
or not gonna happen/too early to say?
genuinely curious
zinc parrot
Chak, will you do any contest with the possibility of winning next DLC
like onc...
Chak says no
glacial stratus
Chak says no
Chak has spoken
glacial stratus
as a chinese that rlly insnt that insensitive
isnt HoI4 banned in 🇨🇳 ?
sour surge
isnt HoI4 banned in 🇨🇳 ?
i dont live in china
glacial stratus
i dont live in china
yeah otherwise you wouldnt be able to play hoi4 since its banned there
outer ermine
Is the new challenge just doing focus on true enemy on german monarchist path?
sour surge
Is the new challenge just doing focus on true enemy on german monarchist path?
you dont have to do that focus specifically
sour surge
yeah otherwise you wouldnt be able to play hoi4 since its banned there
a lot of chinese people living in china can still play hoi4
its not enforced there
glacial stratus
but there was a controversy about Commie China not ruling all of China by 1936 or smth
sour surge
but there was a controversy about Commie China not ruling all of China by 1936 o...
yeh the history they teach is a bit one sided
they only taught about after mao took power
and sometimes about communsit china fighting japan
outer ermine
you dont have to do that focus specifically
Yea but basically
sour surge
Yea but basically
yeh pretty much
ornate thunder
is that a valid challange?
How is that even possible
ornate thunder
is that a valid challange?
Why is your industry so small you are germany
Ah because Switzerland owns it
inland prawn
they only taught about after mao took power
because their country didn’t really exist before mao
sour surge
because their country didn’t really exist before mao
current chinese administration didnt exist before then
elder junco
What kinds of mods are allowed? Like is RT56 allowed?
sour surge
What kinds of mods are allowed? Like is RT56 allowed?
it needs to be achievement compatible
tacit sapphire
What kinds of mods are allowed? Like is RT56 allowed?
Only graphical mods
inland prawn
Only graphical mods
wouldn’t it just be every mod that’s ironman capitable
tacit sapphire
wouldn’t it just be every mod that’s ironman capitable
No
Rt56 is played differently than vanilla
Affects gameplay
Visual doesn’t
tacit sapphire
@tired spire did u break through the maginot
tired spire
I had sealion and soviets in 44 so bulldogged my way in with marines after being too op. But i also went trough maginot with 50width artillery and 8k cas for funcies
tired spire
Didnt think about that, uk went commie. Well it was fun nonethless
polar yarrow
I had sealion and soviets in 44 so bulldogged my way in with marines after being...
just paradrop in 39 damn
tired spire
got wt locked
polar yarrow
i did that on 1936
howd u rush it so fast
empty lintel
howd u rush it so fast
when you reach 50 pp as fascist germany justify on france
and then do oppose hitler
polar yarrow
do you keep the justification
empty lintel
yeah
empty lintel
do you keep the justification
then i stole french fleet and naval invade uk
polar yarrow
why not paradrop the uk
empty lintel
why not paradrop the uk
because sometimes uk covers their ports
naval invasion is more effective
polar yarrow
not always
sour surge
naval invasion is more effective
I never bother to naval invade uk
I always paradrop
And 80% of the time it works
20% is when they put air
empty lintel
I never bother to naval invade uk
but when paratroopers are blocked in challenges?
empty lintel
https://tenor.com/view/i-don%27t-give-a-damn-ll-cool-j-james-todd-smith-the-boom...
get out of here lil bro 😭
sour surge
get out of here lil bro 😭
Damn you got me there
still dagger
I find naval invasions to be easier since the AI can't navy
umbral cipher
Is it ok to use a mod thats ironman compatible?
It just changes the names of most countries
empty lintel
Is it ok to use a mod thats ironman compatible?
yes
empty lintel
as long doesn't change the game
umbral cipher
Its just satisfying country and puppet names
glacial stratus
Catapult soldiers over the channel
as long as they don't have a heart attack mid-air due to the large distance between the channel
tacit sapphire
as long as they don't have a heart attack mid-air due to the large distance betw...
Catapult a few at a time
As fail safes
empty lintel
Catapult a few at a time
what if they die to fall damage
tired hedge
is there any other paradox games that will be easy to understand for an hoi4 player (me :3)
zinc parrot
is there any other paradox games that will be easy to understand for an hoi4 pla...
Hoi4 is pretty much the easiest of the map strategy genre
Just a lot of micromanaging compared to eu 4
Honestly no paradox game is really easy to understand
tacit sapphire
Real
solid gust
is there any other paradox games that will be easy to understand for an hoi4 pla...
try stellaris, easiest outside of HOI to understand, while still having some depth
its also 10x easier than vicky 3 or EU4
empty lintel
@hushed crown you need to be at peace, also you don't got iron man mode on...
sour surge
<@653742091381506049> you need to be at peace, also you don't got iron man mode ...
I didnt even know you had to be at peace lmao
hushed crown
<@653742091381506049> you need to be at peace, also you don't got iron man mode ...
oh
well thx
👍
onyx warren
can we get a challenge where you conquer the philipines as luxembourg and join the central powers
feral crescent
tacit sapphire
U good?
tacit sapphire
who let bro cook
proud edge
sa
signal frost
When people forget to turn on ironman
sour surge
<@770691868223733790> no ironman
France also exists on mainland
solid gust
this one ends on the 4th instead
dire pivot
I don’t think USA was a part of it
Yeah... Did a WQ after because I was bored
glad vector
probably more german speaking people in the USA than in Sudetenland anyway
charred timber
@raven nest liar
tacit sapphire
<@763286228258521109> liar
?
tacit sapphire
i was talking with him, not you
I know
charred timber
ok
charred timber
he did, but not here
tacit sapphire
Then why respond here
charred timber
trust me, it makes sense between him and me
tacit sapphire
Alright
charred timber
dont worry, everything is fine
empty lintel
@fading salmon you don't own france mainland
ornate thunder
<@414418221836271638> you don't own france mainland
What is missing
glacial stratus
He does?
gustavo is correct, they need to have all of the 1936 french cores
(Algiers doesnt count since its done with focus trees later on)
same goes with Northern Ireland for UK , which they do have in the screenshot
tacit sapphire
Dev diary!
glacial stratus
Dev diary!
its not released yet, tomorrow
tacit sapphire
its not released yet, tomorrow
Dev diary!
pseudo charm
Dev diary!
Wait like 17 hours
tacit sapphire
Dev diary!
zinc parrot
dev diary!
sacred flower
Dev diary!
tacit sapphire
Yes
glacial stratus
4 hours right?
till tomorrow
charred timber
i thought it was on thursdays
glacial stratus
Chak mentioned in messages above
charred timber
ah ok, thanks
glacial stratus
this one will end tomorrow instead
wont ping him but i put info emote on that comment, it shouldnt be that far up
charred timber
im doing it right now, i have a cool bonus, if i wont fail
frozen charm
does "cant flip to non alligned at the very end" mean that you cant flip to non alligned after taking france and uk out?
sour surge
does "cant flip to non alligned at the very end" mean that you cant flip to non ...
Guess
tacit sapphire
does "cant flip to non alligned at the very end" mean that you cant flip to non ...
Yes
Flip before way
War
charred timber
this will be my submit
frozen charm
Yes
i took screenshot of non alligned military junta before going to war, does it count or does it have to be german empire
tacit sapphire
i took screenshot of non alligned military junta before going to war, does it co...
Empire
fickle river
gustavo is correct, they need to have all of the 1936 french cores
i think you do not need Corsica, since it is not mainland part of France, but I do not see any specific requirement for whether is about cores or mainland
solid gust
i dont usually require the smaller islands and stuff in these challenges
glacial stratus
ok so Corsica is not part of the challenge
although it does make sense to have it though
since its a 1936 game start core
solid gust
easy challenge, no need
lucid cliff
can the dlc prize be the expansion pass lol
solid gust
for this challenge? tomorrow
solid gust
it'll be a tiny bit later
because i havent made the assets and stuff and ive been busy with today
probably around 12pm est
lucid cliff
do you know how many entries there have been
solid gust
you can see them in the submissions tab
lucid cliff
3% chance of winning
empty lintel
3% chance of winning
consider some are invalid
charred timber
this will be my submit
@solid gust is that screenshot alright for submission?
solid gust
you got northern ireland and all of france, is fine
charred timber
alright
solid gust
though you need to show ur leader
charred timber
i will add a second photo 4 years later in the same run as bonus
charred timber
though you need to show ur leader
uh ehm, i hope i have a screenshot of that. but i think i only have one 1 year later when i have victoria
same run
solid gust
so long as its still ironman should be fine
charred timber
its the same run
charred timber
this will be my submit
this is ironman
when im done with the bonus in like 30 minutes i will put it into #challenge-submissions
tacit sapphire
though you need to show ur leader
I didnt show my leader?
Should I fix that
Or am I good
solid gust
i would prefer if you did, makes it easier to verify the run
empty lintel
@grim bane your at war
charred timber
kluge isnt a monarch
grim bane
<@797899512470831134> your at war
?
charred timber
he is a field marshall of the wehrmacht
tacit sapphire
Rip
grim bane
submission doesn't count when you are at war
Ethiopia 💀
tacit sapphire
Makes sense
grim bane
@empty lintel fixed (had to conquer USSR , japan and other stuff)
charred timber
for my first submission I ever do here, as a bonus i made this challenge more complicated for no reason
@solid gust i hope you are proud of me
I call this the Holey Roman Empire
If savoy wouldnt be prussian, I could only submit this picture
but oh well
tacit sapphire
not lying
ornate thunder
I’m winning this contest with this submission
You dont own Northern Ireland
tacit sapphire
Dang it
ornate thunder
@solid gust when will the winner be announced
solid gust
around 12pm EST, I'm running a bit late after yesterday as you can imagine
signal frost
I’m winning this contest with this submission
Very cool low detail mod
tacit sapphire
All the budget was spent on the trailer
zinc parrot
All the budget was spent on the trailer
Real
solid gust
Voltair's Nightmare HOI Challenge rules:
-As France, split up Germany's borders between as many nations as possible.
-Game must start in 1936, be achievement compatible in Ironman, and you cannot use any mods that change gameplay. ( no RT56, things that change divisions or otherwise)
-You cannot change nation at any point (no changing to a releasable), but there is no Ideology requirement for this challenge.
-You can have puppets for this challenge, the more the better is a hint I'll share....
-To achieve the challenge, you must divide as much of Germany between as many different nations as possible.
-Required screenshots will need to include an image proving Ironman+achievement compatibility (if you do not hover over the trophy icon, your entry will be invalidated), one screenshot showing you are playing France of course (these first two can be the same screenshot)
A screenshot of the entirety of Germany to show the different nations who own them, do not zoom out to show the whole globe, make sure Germany fills the entire screenshot for ease of verification
-There is no time limit to the challenge, but winners will be selected based on how many different nations have parts of Germany, alongside how fast they have achieved it.
-This is a 'Medium' Difficulty Challenge, I am seeing if we can accomplish a little Chaos before the release of Götterdämmerung, I welcome feedback after the challenge is complete.
vast crest
We did it, we finally got the border gore challenge
cobalt basin
release colonies
go to war with Germany
???
Profit
marble lily
Do we divide 1936 German territory, or their lands after ww2?
solid gust
1936 germany
empty lintel
yoo i won
simple phoenix
by different nations does it mean different Germany as in lots of puppets or different countries each having a slice?
whole holly
by different nations does it mean different Germany as in lots of puppets or dif...
i was wondering this too
glad vector
Awesome challenge, looking forward to it
cobalt basin
by different nations does it mean different Germany as in lots of puppets or dif...
both count probably
naive wyvern
a couple of questions:
are we working only with german cores?
do puppets count?
do different germanies count? (lets say we liberated democratic germany, and soviets made free communist germany)
hushed stag
Does that mean i have to dismantle germany or give his territory to random countries?
whole holly
a couple of questions:
are we working only with german cores?
do puppets count?
...
puppets count he said this in the message explaining it
naive wyvern
puppets of other countries count?
hushed stag
Ok, I have an idea
lone rock
Do the countries have to puppet Germany or can they take it's land
naive wyvern
1936 germany
so austrian states don't count?
hushed stag
How fast can France declare war on germany or become fascist?
ebon mulch
simple phoenix
Does that mean i have to dismantle germany or give his territory to random count...
@solid gust
ornate thunder
what if people get the same amount
solid gust
Does that mean i have to dismantle germany or give his territory to random count...
it has to be Germany's land owned by as many different nations as possible, I don't expect germany to survive this, though you can give it to random nations if you want
solid gust
what if people get the same amount
then it comes down to time, hence why this is a 'medium' diff challenge
polar yarrow
@solid gust can i decolinze, making puppets, and giving them the land
solid gust
yes ofc
hushed stag
<@186828692054343680> can i decolinze, making puppets, and giving them the land
Thanks for saying my strategy out loud
polar yarrow
Thanks for saying my strategy out loud
hehe
empty lintel
@solid gust i can choose any music/armor pack right?
solid gust
if its in the store, yes
this doesnt include any preorder stuff though
(I would wait till monday before making the ticket though, I have a lot of stuff to go through at the moment lmao)
polar yarrow
if its in the store, yes
hm
lapis python
It says no gameplay altering mods does player primacy count as one of those
fair skiff
It says no gameplay altering mods does player primacy count as one of those
as in player lead conferences?
lucid cliff
is there a specific ammount of "as many nations as possible" you need
lapis python
Yeah
lucid cliff
its a bit ambigious
solid gust
its in the store tho
it was in reference to the music/armor pack comment only
solid gust
It says no gameplay altering mods does player primacy count as one of those
no you cannot use player primacy
ornate thunder
what counts as germany
1936 germany
pale osprey
is there somewhere to find the rules
crude pasture
pinned messages
pale osprey
thx
naive wyvern
wait, so basically it's germany capitulation speedrun with extra steps
and i already wanted to replicate this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y75S8kGvSI
pale osprey
is multiplayer allowed
swift jackal
Just release every puppet as France and then give each German state to one puppet
tacit sapphire
Wait
How do u do this
Where did Ethiopia come from
Wait
U can purposefully give puppets land?
U can do that?
My brain ain’t braining
naive wyvern
if your puppet was in a peace deal, you can just give land to them
i believe italy which fought ethiopia joined axis, so ethiopia was included in the partition of germany
tacit sapphire
if your puppet was in a peace deal, you can just give land to them
Do they need peace score?
naive wyvern
if your puppet was in a peace deal, you can just give land to them
and it doesn't need to be a puppet, if any nation was on your side, you can give them any land from the conquered enemy (but you will spend your points, not their)
tacit sapphire
Or does 0 work
naive wyvern
no
tacit sapphire
Ohhh
naive wyvern
they can literally join last second and you'll still be able to give them any german state
tacit sapphire
Just need to figure out how to declare and not collapse in the process
Wait
I can just do this
As long as I beat Gustavo I’m good
(I’m better)
little flame
w1zardj, how did you do it, did you make Germany attack you in 1936? or you start the war yourself?
naive wyvern
i didn't do the challenge yet
little flame
I thought you were the first to perform it XD
naive wyvern
there is one option though, i think - deny rhineland
little flame
I did so
my advice is to try to kill German divisions on your territory, I did this
hushed stag
Do j have to play historical?
tacit sapphire
my advice is to try to kill German divisions on your territory, I did this
Disjointed government
ornate thunder
Do j have to play historical?
no
tacit sapphire
What’s the minimum
1 I think
little flame
As many nations as possible?
I forgot whether it was 22 or 24, as many provinces as it has
ornate thunder
@little flame why do you have over 300 command power
little flame
really 304
ornate thunder
yeah how do you have so much
little flame
well, I don't even know what to say, to be honest, I'll play it again, maybe I broke something in the game, I'll delete this submission
although I haven't seen such bugs since I've been playing
ornate thunder
huh
ornate thunder
well, I don't even know what to say, to be honest, I'll play it again, maybe I b...
what is your commandpower cap
little flame
no i really, I don't use any cheats or codes because for me it's a challenge of interest because I completed all the achievements
little flame
what is your commandpower cap
exactly less than 300
ornate thunder
this is sus
little flame
I search about it on the internet because it really interested me
ornate thunder
@solid gust what do you think about this
little flame
I think he will say that it is impossible XD
tacit sapphire
@versed prism
Wrong country
As
France
I’m not a nerd
But
That’s not France
ornate thunder
I think he will say that it is impossible XD
it is impossible
@versed prism no ironman and you just changed contry via command
little flame
Well, the gpt chat told me that this could be the reason or the modification of the game files, which I doubt because the achievements would not work or technical failures in the computer. I did not find anything on the Internet about this
he also gave about 10 possible reasons, but I do not consider them effective
tacit sapphire
@versed prism just do it correctly
ornate thunder
Well, the gpt chat told me that this could be the reason or the modification of ...
hmmmmmmm
ornate thunder
<@665605392042164265> just do it correctly
yeah
little flame
well one of these days I'll do it again and take a screen record just in case
signal frost
Is it just 1936 German cores or all possible German cores?
little flame
1936
ornate thunder
Is it just 1936 German cores or all possible German cores?
1936 germany
signal frost
Thx
worldly surge
<@665605392042164265> just do it correctly
What did bro do
tacit sapphire
What did bro do
Cheat
tacit sapphire
No Ironman
And
If he did it normally
Soviets would be there
He would have maginot
And
Poland would be there
ornate thunder
@little flame i would not checkmark everything your run is also sus
empty lintel
<@537980775467974656> i would not checkmark everything your run is also sus
what was it
whole holly
@tacit sapphire lend me ur keen eyes and check if my run is valid pls
i need second pair of eyes i think is fine but dunno
tacit sapphire
Sure
little flame
@ornate thunder i think i have really bad files or pc
whole holly
It’s allowed
alr thanks
tacit sapphire
and it doesn't need to be a puppet, if any nation was on your side, you can give...
.
whole holly
i like cool napoleonic releasables
whole holly
yeah ik but i dont wanna be unoriginal like the rest
every mf in here is gonna do the same
tacit sapphire
Oh
little flame
<@769258632712814622> i think i have really bad files or pc
i have video but i can't send there ( 36 seconds = 200mb lol), in the start i have 20 compower but after 1 day i have 300 and it's only on France
tacit sapphire
They are
whole holly
tho i do find mongolia in konigsberg very cool
tacit sapphire
Yeah
ornate thunder
what was it
the run is cheated you can see it when you look a the commandpower 300cmmandpower is not possible
robust swan
Bhutanese Bavaria here we come
polar yarrow
@solid gust will it be random like last time
tacit sapphire
<@186828692054343680> will it be random like last time
Prob timed
polar yarrow
wym timed
tacit sapphire
Whoever does it the earliest
tacit sapphire
as i said, itll prob be chosen randomly
polar yarrow
oh
blissful kindle
challenge idea: as volga germany defeat Germany and restore the borders of the German Empire (colonies and all) (your not allowed to just annex all the borders must be close as possible in hoi4)
fleet quail
do they have to be core states of germany?
ornate thunder
1936 cores
Do only the 1936 states count
zinc parrot
@solid gust the winner is whoever divides between the most countries correct?
fleet quail
-There is no time limit to the challenge, but winners will be selected based on how many different nations have parts of Germany, alongside how fast they have achieved it.
tacit sapphire
<@186828692054343680> the winner is whoever divides between the most countries c...
there is a max
lemme do some math
🤓 👆
i think 26
fleet quail
you can only go to war with them like 2/10 over rhineland
tacit sapphire
i hate france so much lol\
tacit sapphire
you can only go to war with them like 2/10 over rhineland
1 fifth of the time?
bet
only gotta do 20 games
fleet quail
do you need the dlc this bad
fleet quail
you need britain to deny though otherwise germany wont go to war and u have to restart
tacit sapphire
you need britain to deny though otherwise germany wont go to war and u have to r...
so this?
fleet quail
yes
empty lintel
a civil ewar immeditaly started
also if you want you can do little entente to make the war easier
tiny onyx
Does the callenge have to be completed with Historical AI?
fleet quail
no i dont think so
hushed escarp
how tf are you guys getting this in 1938 lol
just denying rhineland and reloading until germany goes to war?
opaque talon
I messed up in the treaty... time to do it again...
fleet quail
this wouldnt be that hard if you weren't on 0 stability 0 war support the whole time
throughout the whole war i was on like -60 factory output
opaque talon
this wouldnt be that hard if you weren't on 0 stability 0 war support the whole ...
Oh yeah France is an absolute mess at the start of the game, wish they denerfed it a bit with the new German DLC
Mostly the nerf is so Germany can stomp them
fleet quail
germany is going to be way overtuned when it releases
i had 20 factories on guns and i was making like 30 a day
lunar saffron
Why do i get fascist civil war?
jolly cobalt
So if get into 1,2 or 3rd place, could I get a preorder song as a reward?
dreamy heart
does it need to be on historical
solid gust
So if get into 1,2 or 3rd place, could I get a preorder song as a reward?
No you cannot
solid gust
does it need to be on historical
Nope
dreamy heart
epic
jolly cobalt
No you cannot
Can you get the preorder songs if you missed out on them?
solid gust
Not that I can provide, no. ( I cannot type on mobile dear lord)
robust swan
Hmm, I'm struggling on whether to try and speed run this as fast as possible... or make it incredibly wacky
What yall think I should try?
empty lintel
What yall think I should try?
little entente
jolly cobalt
I was thinking Napoleon
tacit sapphire
Hmm, I'm struggling on whether to try and speed run this as fast as possible... ...
Wacky
tiny onyx
Me without any paid dlc;
fleet quail
What yall think I should try?
naval invade east prussia and portrap it
tacit sapphire
@tawny spear it has to be close up
tacit sapphire
erm
i turned historical is on
russsia is fighting allies and axis
latin entente is fighting axis and allies
axis is fighting allie, latin entente, and comitern
all bc of the spanish civil war
fleet quail
why is it so blurry
robust swan
Bhutanese Bavaria must be achieved
tacit sapphire
why is it so blurry
for FPS
fleet quail
o
tacit sapphire
chak, IK ur not online but u can read this when u get back on
do i get brownie points for other things?
like defeating the allies?
robust swan
I wonder if by splitting up Germany as much as possible... it takes into account anything that's core territory for Germany
tacit sapphire
(sidequest)
tacit sapphire
I wonder if by splitting up Germany as much as possible... it takes into account...
1936 cores
robust swan
oh it does specify that?
robust swan
darn
I don't think I'm beating 1936 so ima still do Austria and such
the more weird nations the better
zinc parrot
@solid gust by "Germany's territory" do you mean starting or owned pre treaty?
tacit sapphire
<@186828692054343680> by "Germany's territory" do you mean starting or owned pre...
36 land
tacit sapphire
Yes
tawny spear
<@693191356029599765> it has to be close up
close enough?
gloomy jolt
hey is there some way to fix the peace conference from not getting stuck for it just shows up and i cant do anything really
i dont know i what is going on here
tacit sapphire
close enough?
Yes
tawny spear
hey is there some way to fix the peace conference from not getting stuck for it...
you need more war score, or you wont be able to claim much german land/ give it to other nations
tawny spear
close enough?
I did this with like 44% war score
jolly cobalt
The idea of Germany is subjective:
So I interpreted as all german lands Germany occupied that wouldn't give me a headache
tacit sapphire
1936 cores
glad vector
yeah I kept clicking too in the peacedeal and handed out some polish and czech cores
tacit sapphire
She prob kept a few divs on the maginot and naval invaded with the rest
naive wyvern
yeah, very impressive
empty lintel
germany starts with 30 divisions, france with far more
france troops are wtih no equipment
chrome maple
i mean it's possible
yeah but with the communist civil war and the days it needs to transport the troops across the sea, 18 days seems too little
empty lintel
yeah but with the communist civil war and the days it needs to transport the tro...
you can transport troops before rhineland
chrome maple
you can transport troops before rhineland
where would you transport the troops?
empty lintel
you mean the naval invasion?
chrome maple
oh you mean the naval invasion
yeah that i know, i was talking about the troops that come after the naval invasion
chrome maple
yeah but with the communist civil war and the days it needs to transport the tro...
also the division count seems kinda high although not impossible, france starts with 74 division in 36 and from my tests usually lose 20 to the communist. @dire pivot had 71 divs when they killed germany
chrome maple
Imma try to do what she did
i couldn't do it, but good luck to you
tacit sapphire
(They pushed through the maginot)
chrome maple
probably due to the divisions last place in the screenshot
another very small and stupid detail is that the game is set on speed 5 and micromanaging on that speed is impossbile
idk for me there are too many red flags, but if that run is actually legit props to her
ornate thunder
another very small and __stupid__ detail is that the game is set on speed 5 and ...
Idk maybe because when the capitulation is 100% the game takes one day to start the peace treaty and he wanted it fast
chrome maple
maybe, that detail is very stupid and should not really be considered
well if she still has the save and is willing to send it over to me i think i know a way that we could check if the run is legit
ornate thunder
well if she still has the save and is willing to send it over to me i think i kn...
Check the files or what?
ornate thunder
But if he has some kind of super devision that would not work
Because it would be a battle
ornate thunder
also stockpile
His troops have full guns that is weird
chrome maple
But if he has some kind of super devision that would not work
you would not be able to improve the template in 36 and germany has 30 divs, it is impossible to conquer germany without some battles
ornate thunder
I mean with cheats
chrome maple
even if you only run around their division, they would attack
chrome maple
I mean with cheats
oh
ornate thunder
its possible he just blitzed them
?
chrome maple
His troops have full guns that is weird
releasing all of the puppets would give a positive stockpile
ornate thunder
Oh yeah
fleet quail
france has like over 10k guns in garrisons
ornate thunder
@solid gust what do you think
ornate thunder
Idk he did the challenge with iran and he didn’t have a great time
ornate thunder
just too many red flags
It is sus
chrome maple
also im pretty sure this might be a world record for killing germany
the fastest time i found before this is may 36
ornate thunder
Let’s see what chak says
fleet quail
alphonse juin and jean lattre tassigny always side with the communists in the civil war
whenever i go into the civil i always lose them as generals
maybe thats just me but he has them as generals which is weird
chrome maple
no i think you aare right
fleet quail
unless im dumb and theres a way you can skip civil war
chrome maple
i know you lose 100% a general
but idk the names so let me check
yeah, jean lattre always went to the communists
the other guy idk 100%
chrome maple
yeah, jean lattre always went to the communists
but i remember avoiding this guy in my setup cuz i would always lose him
chrome maple
unless im dumb and theres a way you can skip civil war
from what i know there isnt, but she clearly didnt fight the civil war
chrome maple
naval invade east prussia and port trapped
fleet quail
o thats what i did lol
chrome maple
oh nice
well i guess i got lucky with the german divisions and managed to get a better time
ornate thunder
from what i know there isnt, but she clearly didnt fight the civil war
Ok this is really weird now
That’s why she has all the divs
tacit sapphire
another very small and __stupid__ detail is that the game is set on speed 5 and ...
I do it lol
Her troop locations
That’s not a normal capitulation
Too early for collab
And democracy can’t do collab
This is good
ornate thunder
This is good
?
tacit sapphire
They didn’t photoshop the achievements symbol
ornate thunder
That would be crazy
charred timber
<@186828692054343680> what do you think
m3an did it in 35 days
tacit sapphire
Idk
ornate thunder
Bro is not even trying to hide it💀
signal frost
That’s not a normal capitulation
I was thinking the same thing.
Even Munich wasn't taken.
tacit sapphire
Yeah
signal frost
Let's say Germany is somehow 0% war support, despite them being in a defensive war
tacit sapphire
signal frost
I still believe Munich needs to be taken
ornate thunder
@dire pivot do you have answers
empty lintel
Also how is the French army that equipped
because no garrison in colonies?
signal frost
Nono
France is like at a 5k deficit at least
I have played France releasing all colonies
You still have an equipment deficit
ornate thunder
No chance this run is real
empty lintel
France is like at a 5k deficit at least
also germany when capitulates should give equipment tho
signal frost
Enforce video submissions lol
Still doesn't explain not needing to take Munich
I'm very sure that Germany is not at 0% war support
ornate thunder
Enforce video submissions lol
I think the verification Prozess would take to long
ornate thunder
Weird thing is she did not cheat in the iran challenge
tacit sapphire
Enforce video submissions lol
My run was 9 hours
signal frost
-30% from bombing max, -30% from casualties max. No way that is happening just a few days after Rhineland denied
signal frost
You never won against Germany denying Rhineland?
signal frost
It is quite simple
tacit sapphire
I waited till Sudetenland
signal frost
Put a ton of forces around Calais, take calais
Win civil war
Then slam into Germany
tacit sapphire
Didn’t work for me
signal frost
Make sure rebels don't take Bordeaux
tacit sapphire
My rebels were only in calisis
signal frost
Wait, they don't spawn in the south anymore
tacit sapphire
Yuh
signal frost
How convenient
tacit sapphire
Real
ornate thunder
Do you guys think May 36 is possible
tacit sapphire
No
signal frost
Do you guys think May 36 is possible
May 1936 possible, not March
Rhineland focus is at March
signal frost
A couple months to win the war is quite possible
ornate thunder
<@785880648781922325> how you got 96m manpower
Magic
ornate thunder
Scraping the country
tacit sapphire
It’s possible
naive wyvern
about stockpile, didn't do anything with army, put no garrisons and after a month i had 1000 spare guns
signal frost
about stockpile, didn't do anything with army, put no garrisons and after a mont...
Neat, thanks for clarifying
naive wyvern
testing civil war, lost 2 generals that were on their screenshot
naive wyvern
tested 2 more times, its the same two generals
so that means that there was no civil war
languid verge
naive wyvern
so that means that there was no civil war
and according to event files, civil war will always fire if you're democratic or communist, and have disjointed government
signal frost
so that means that there was no civil war
Oh wait, you are right! The brilliant strategist general always flips
Never knew juin always flipped
naive wyvern
so somehow they avoided civil war which is weird
signal frost
I don't see how it could be possible
zinc parrot
so somehow they avoided civil war which is weird
It's 99% a bug
charred timber
yeah she cheated 100%
its not possible to avoid the civil war that early in the game
germany has so many big victory points in the east, she hasnt even occupied. So how did it capitualate? Even if she had rng look and scuttled the entire germany fleet, the stability loss wouldnt be low enough, that germany caps that quickly
charred timber
We demand intervention from the moderation team
dire pivot
also the division count seems kinda high although not impossible, france starts ...
2 width cav/inf spam (modify template when earning XP, so you arent in a equiploss) naval invade the north, snake to Kiel (the eastern port below denmark, I think its Kiel) invade east prussia (my invasion failed tho)/other ports in northern Germany. Use all your tanks/mot to snake the germans and your inf to pin as many divisions as possible. The posted run was my 14th try or something.
I released all subjects first thing and only produced INF equip. to get all my inf units at max strenght.
I think the cheating allegations are crazy...
Why, for a chance for a 10$ DLC? I'm doing the challenges for fun, I've used way too much time for this challenge and previous. And how? I only play on Ironman as far as I know its not possible to use mods which give like crazy modifiers or something like that and still be Ironman compatible?
fleet quail
2 width cav/inf spam (modify template when earning XP, so you arent in a equiplo...
how did u avoid civil war
chrome maple
2 width cav/inf spam (modify template when earning XP, so you arent in a equiplo...
While that strategy could work, I refuse to believe that it would take you only 18 days to capitualte German. Also you didnt respond to the biggest problem, not having the civil war.
charred timber
While that strategy could work, I refuse to believe that it would take you only ...
18 days are possible
chrome maple
I think the cheating allegations are crazy...
Why, for a chance for a 10$ DLC? ...
Also I have never said you 100% cheated. I just pointed out suspicious things in your run
charred timber
however, the no civil war isnt
naive wyvern
germany has so many big victory points in the east, she hasnt even occupied. So ...
i tested it and it seems that with low enough war support germany would capitulate that way
charred timber
and for 18 days, you need to occupy more then just westgermany
naive wyvern
but no civil war still is a big question
charred timber
i tested it and it seems that with low enough war support germany would capitula...
only way to get war support low is a) agency and b) destroying their fleet
and with agency you can only like 5% lower ws in 18 days
maximum
chrome maple
i tested it and it seems that with low enough war support germany would capitula...
Also if UK doesnt support you, and you end up at war with Germany, they get a 10% war support boost
I’m not 100% sure tho
naive wyvern
i think it's 20? for defensive war
chrome maple
oh also that
but you get an extra 10%
from the event
@dire pivot I also suggested that you could send the save file to someone so they can check it
raven nest
I think the cheating allegations are crazy...
Why, for a chance for a 10$ DLC? ...
U have generals that u lose during cw
So u somehow avoided cw
Microing germany in 18 days is possible but having no cw?
Explain that
raven nest
Also if u didnt have civil war then u had more spare divs that u could use against germany
Which obviously made it easier
tacit sapphire
Hoi4 is life
tacit sapphire
I gotta lock in and try this too
solid gust
I don't think we should jump to the conclusion of cheating for things like this, though it is incredible how quickly it was done, you may notice I didn't place any unit or strategy restrictions this time around
naive wyvern
i think we have only one question, was there a civil war or not? and if not, how?