challenge-questions

[naive wyvern]

but they're all ended in 37 so didn't took much time

[glacial stratus]

very impressive man, i congratulate you 😄

surprisingly i followed the almost same tactic, in my case i went unhistorical instead and attacked 🇬🇧 when they were at their weakest

are the submissions closed now Chak?

usually its always 1 hr before closing

[solid gust]

They closed at 10, correct

[glacial stratus]

10, like , 7 minutes ago?

[solid gust]

(its 10:17, sorry forgot time zones lmao)

[glacial stratus]

yeah right right

[glacial stratus]

wait its morning for you?

[solid gust]

I live in Canada

[glacial stratus]

oh cool, that was so familiar, have few relatives living there

its 18:18 from where i stand, GMT +4 timezone

when the announcement , btw?

[solid gust]

30 minutes, doing assets rn for it

[empty lintel]

it's incredible how you can do that in 2 years lol

[solid gust]

Espera un Minuto challenge rules:

-Ironman must be enabled, and achievements must be possible. When submitting your entry, you must hover your mouse over the Trophy Icon to show the drop down menu like in the following screenshot #challenge-submissions message
-Graphical mods are allowed, but you cannot have Swastika's within the screenshots, or the submission will be INVALID The server rules still apply within these challenges
-Screenshots required are a picture of conqeured Spain, and showing your faction includes one of the required nations (can be in the same screenshot or two in the same post)

-Starting in the 1936 scenario, start and end the game as Mexico. Any Ideology is allowed.
-You must create a faction with any Spanish speaking country. The countries you can form a faction with to fulfil this challenge are: Peru, Honduras, Colombia, Guatemala, Cuba, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Puerto Rico Bolivia, Costa Rica, Uruguay, Chile, El Salvador, Ecuador, Argentina, Venezuela, Equatorial Guinea, Panama or the Dominican Republic.
-There is NO time limit to this challenge, simply fulfil the requirements for the entry to be valid
-There are NO unit restrictions this time around. Have fun with it
-Winners will be chosen at random, via a random number generator, so as to make the drawing fair.
-This challenge will run for 2 weeks, same as normal. Submissions will close at 10am EST on September 5th

[glacial stratus]

hmm no 2nd and 3rd place winners this time?

[solid gust]

not this time no, sorry

@naive wyvern make sure to dm @brittle mortar to claim your prize please (so I can request the given key)

[glacial stratus]

this one is also one and only winner, right?

or its the same as usual

[solid gust]

this one is same as usual

[glacial stratus]

question is faction with one member necessary?

what if i dont want to be allied with someone

[solid gust]

you have to create the faction with one of the listed countries, but it doesn't have to be only them

but it is necessary that one of them be within it

[lethal prawn]

two questions:

1. if you win, could you ask for the soviet art pack?
2. could we make a faction with Equatorial Guinea?

[glacial stratus]

no you cant, its not a dlc, all shares go to modder

[solid gust]

1. You cannot, as that is a content creator pack they receive their support from the purchase of it so I do not give them out
2. Yes, I forgot to list them, let me add them to the list my bad on that

[glacial stratus]

its the only DLC you cant ask as a prize , btw

[tame fulcrum]

What are the standard rules ( difficulty, historical y/n, video required or just a picture)

[glacial stratus]

check at challenge submissions of previous contests

[lethal prawn]

honestly itd be really funny if someone (or I) could destroy spain with equatorial guinea

[glacial stratus]

make a screenshot with F12 and hover over the achievements icon

no gameplay changing mods, Ironman only

you can use visual mods

that's it

[glacial stratus]

another question, can you hand out Sabaton music packs?

like its not forbidden, right?

[solid gust]

I have in the past, but as that is not a content creator pack its not disallowed anyway

[tame fulcrum]

Do i need the dlcs for it to be valid?

[solid gust]

no

just need to be mexico

[tame fulcrum]

cool

[solid gust]

(I keep trying to find/make challenges everyone can do, sometimes I have to put people on countries without a dlc tree )

[lucid cliff]

Can I use mods like r56

[solid gust]

no

[glacial stratus]

XD

rly dude

its main game only

[still dagger]

Mexico has a DLC tree tho

[solid gust]

some people do not have it/ are new

[glacial stratus]

its so that you can play as Mexico without owning Man the Guns dlc

[solid gust]

its more of a general (ha) statement

[still dagger]

Yeah, but I would argue it gives us who would Man the Guns an unfair advantage

[solid gust]

since there is no time requirement, its an equal chance

this is one of my 'easier' challenges

[glacial stratus]

its not

you can strech out to 1948 if you desire

[lucid cliff]

Can the other Spanish country be an ai

[glacial stratus]

winners will be picked by randomizer, doesnt matter if you do it in 1936, given that whether its possible or not

[glacial stratus]

wdym AI, all of them are AI

you cannot do this in multiplayer

[lucid cliff]

Ohhhh

Mb

[glacial stratus]

its single player, Ironman mode, achievements must be compatible with the save

that's it

and start and finish as 🇲🇽

no switching to other country or tag

[solid gust]

has to be since its single player

[still dagger]

I mean it in the sense that if I put Trotsky in power and rush Bolivarian alliance then knock out the USA, I can pretty much solo Spain by like 1940ish

[glacial stratus]

This challenge will run for 2 weeks, same as normal. Submissions will close at 10am on September 5th

@solid gust , text which timezone you mean, even 🇨🇦 has multiple zones

[still dagger]

Since there would be no way to realistically lose unless I collapse into civil war

[solid gust]

EST

let me fix that, i deleted it apparently though i dont remember doing it lmao

[glacial stratus]

yeah i mean just text EST in the rules, so you wont be bombarded with questions

i made you avoid one and nineteen more questions by doing this simple trick

[brave inlet]

do you must have man the guns dlc for the mexico focus tree?

[solid gust]

the mexico tree is in there, yes, but you do not need the dlc to complete the challenge

[copper anchor]

would puppeting a Spanish-speaking country and making an alliance with it be considered correct with the alliance thing?

[solid gust]

nope, have to be equal not subjugation in this one

well, I say 'equal' but you will probably be the much stronger nation

[fickle river]

cool, but where did you fight the french and british in Africa, you mentioned nothing about it

[naive wyvern]

when i delcared on britain i encircled a couple of divisions in botswana

[fickle river]

and you took the east indies?

[naive wyvern]

annexed, yes

[fickle river]

where did you get enough men to do that?

[naive wyvern]

to annex dei or fight in africa?

[fickle river]

to fight in Europe and Africa at the same time

with 16w

[naive wyvern]

did you read my explanation?

italian divisions

then when i annex britain and dutch, i had a lot of guns

[fickle river]

but you disbanded the faction quite early

[naive wyvern]

and noncore manpower

disbanded after capitulating uk

[fickle river]

also that should be illegal, but...

[naive wyvern]

why?

[fickle river]

i mean, play a weaker nation

take division from countries around you

reminds me of those old no casualties german runs

[fickle river]

I never said it was

[naive wyvern]

ah, ok

[fickle river]

I only said it should not be there

killing the challenge

[naive wyvern]

i mean thats why i asked

[north garden]

congrats bro w1zardj

[fickle river]

just like puppeting countries only to obtain unlimited divisions

shame

anyway, what dlc did you pick?

[naive wyvern]

i had all except toa so

[fickle river]

its the best

I hope next dlc will give focuses to rest of SA, because right now, it is cursed

[naive wyvern]

yeah, in general old trees are jus too outdated

[fickle river]

or rest of Europe

the only 2 good options

[naive wyvern]

focuses end too early also

after 1940 or even earlier there is just nothing to do

[fickle river]

it is not about old tree, rather about the difference between the complex trees like Brasil and a generic one (ai will not even change ideology)

it makes playing in SA unnatural

[naive wyvern]

i hate the fact that you can't go free with democratic path

and also cw mechanics only open when you go free if youre fascist

it kinda makes sense because the other path is about civil war but still

[fickle river]

what are you talking about man?

[naive wyvern]

fascism on the rise

to make a referendum or go civil war

[fickle river]

(its fascism)

[fickle river]

but you can as communist too

[empty lintel]

no units limit?

so i can use para

[glacial stratus]

you can do whatever

[hazy dune]

dope challenge

[clear bramble]

can we have more than 1 spanish speaking country in a faction?

[golden tinsel]

just fyi brazil wasnt spanish colony 🙂

[solid gust]

yes you can

[solid gust]

its not apart of the list of countries here #challenge-questions message

but you are correct, its not, it was a portugese one

[clear bramble]

wow i got really good rng for my first run

[fickle river]

it is also called Colombia (with "o"), just saying

[empty lintel]

there's a region called columbia i think

[solid gust]

oop, my phone autocorrected that, good catch

[short wraith]

@solid gust is it okay if I redo my submission by deleting the old one and just adding new screenshot with my faction on it

[solid gust]

yes

you're only allowed one submission, but if you delete your previous one, you can resubmit

[short wraith]

okk

[empty lintel]

guys any tips to invade spain?

❓

[clear bramble]

I’ve currently (without much success) tried to help a side in the civil war by directly declaring war on the enemy and using attaches and military access, hopefully getting enough war score I can get a good foothold to invade

[empty lintel]

im tryna naval invade but no range

i could think about invading portugal

[clear bramble]

Probably best to spam submarines

I tried that originally and subs give the range, I just made a trash template and I spammed it out as much as possible

[empty lintel]

it didn't work?

[clear bramble]

elaborate

my naval invasion plans was declaring on Spain and going Rio de Oro, Canaries, and Tangier

[empty lintel]

i tried naval invading by getting dockyards rights on portugal lol

(it didn't go well)

[clear bramble]

ah okay

I’m pretty sure you don’t have to just have only the one Spanish speaking nation in the alliance, so my first plan was to get range in that area through inviting Brazil into an alliance via focuses and decisions

[empty lintel]

yeah that's what i did

[clear bramble]

mk

[empty lintel]

ok invading portugal works

[clear bramble]

Good to hear. Now I have to get it…

[empty lintel]

so you can easily invade spain from portugal

[short wraith]

Brazil is not spanish speakin tho 😭

[clear bramble]

I had an alliance with Uruguay as well so I believe it counts

[short wraith]

dunno

[solid gust]

its fine to have brazil in it

[clear bramble]

phew

[solid gust]

you just have to make sure one of the listed ones is in it

[empty lintel]

i want to have naval range

i have venezuela in it

so it is fine

and considering that iberian union existed

[empty lintel]

ong i did it

[solid gust]

missing a screenshot

need to show your faction members

[empty lintel]

ok i did

[solid gust]

looks good, good job

[empty lintel]

took me 3 tries tho lol

little complex, but i had some fun

[gilded quartz]

What decisions do you choose to get rid of the threat of a uprising

[empty lintel]

the cristeros?

[gilded quartz]

This thing

[empty lintel]

ah

arrest caudillo

[signal frost]

Arrest or side with him

In focus tree

[empty lintel]

i usually rush to arrest him

[gilded quartz]

oh ok

thanks

[glacial stratus]

why is everyone splitting Spain with other Latino country, can't you just annex it all for yourself?

is there a rule for doing so? i am not seeing it anywhere

i understand that they have to be in war with you, but if you manage to get the most participation score, do you have to deliberately give them territory in peace deal or what?

[glacial stratus]

@solid gust whenever you see this ☝️

[charred timber]

Equatorial Guinea best

[steel cargo]

its part of the challenge…

[steel cargo]

thats a releasable, so you’d have to conquer spain twice

[charred timber]

Yeah and?

Dont even, just have to defeat nationalist spain while they are in cw and the republic

[steel cargo]

ok

[glacial stratus]

says where?

[steel cargo]

dude are you kidding me

As Mexico of any Ideology, team up with another
Spanish speaking country and conquer Spain to
show them who the real Spanish Power is!

with ANOTHER spanish speaking country to conquer spain

[glacial stratus]

it speaks nothing of whether your partner should take some sort of Spanish territory or not

[steel cargo]

use your brain

what are other people submitting

[glacial stratus]

Didn't your mother ever teach you any manners?

young man

at basic levels of English communication, this indicates you must be at war with big daddy 🇪🇸 with your fellow-Spaniard partner

this raises question, what if your war score participation is so high that other state can't take any territory of 🇪🇸

should you give it to them personally or can you have them all while they get nothing

[solid gust]

Hey guys, let's be nice, its not that serious. Its just a challenge.

You do not have to split the territory with the other Spanish country but its implied to do so at least to some degree

[glacial stratus]

the thing is i already called a partner to war with me from the start, but i did all of the hard work and my participation is 100% and i took entirety of 🇪🇸

is it viable or should i restart from 0 to give them at least 1 piece of Spanish land?

that's the part that confused me most tbh

not my fault my AI partner was so useless 😄

[solid gust]

Its fine to not split it, that is no issue

[solid gust]

if anything, give em a part of france or something, consolation prize lmao

[glacial stratus]

i am afraid 🇦🇷 had outlived their usefulness

[lapis python]

Can I submit a challenge entry multiple times if I complete it multiple times?

[glacial stratus]

you only need one submission, no multiple entries, if you get the job done, congrats, your submission is accepted

[lapis python]

Ok thanks

[lapis python]

If another faction member takes over as faction leader of a faction I create does that still count towards the challenge

[solid gust]

you just have to make it, doesnt matter if they get stronger and take over

[fickle river]

I am not here once and chat went wild

[clear bramble]

My submission is hopefully valid 🙏

[solid gust]

looks good to me

[lunar saffron]

Alr before i start this, can i even do it with generic focus tree?

[lunar saffron]

also, can the "partner" be a puppet through war? because im struggling to find a country to create faction

[empty lintel]

go with venezuela

if you go fascist

[solid gust]

it cannot be a puppet, no

has to be an equal

[lunar saffron]

yeah

[glacial stratus]

he doesnt need to get MtG, he can pull this off very easily regardless of historical/unhistorical

let him figure it out on their own

why passive-aggressiveness?

it looked like one tbh, but that's fine, don't worry

what i am trying to say is

Latin America is basically at his disposal 😄

lots of contestants to be best buds with)

i would try on Unhistorical personally , wink wink*

oh hell yeah, bro, go for it, do wacky shi ✊

random winner challenges are not for me honestly, i always go out of my way to make the playthrough most interesting

end up getting no place anyways lol

i am much better with timed challenges 😄

in your defense, you are not losing nerves and braincells for the tough challenges, so that's definitely a victory 🏆

you'll get to live longer 😄

[lapis python]

Do I have to be at peace to win because Spain joined the axis

*complete the challenge not win

[solid gust]

Have to resolve all wars, yes

[lapis python]

Ok thanks

[carmine sage]

So my submission is invalid, even if the war is against a completely different faction?

[empty lintel]

yeah

retry

[solid gust]

if you still have the save just try to resolve the war as best you can and resubmit

most challenges (for future reference) require the wars to be resolved

[glad vector]

i think he posted a new one - I see no problem there

[sinful flower]

Play as Albania

[idle sequoia]

what's the current challenge

[solid gust]

its the top pinned message in this channel, and you can scroll up in #challenge-submissions to find the most recent post by myself in it

[frank umbra]

Purposely lose core territory as Italy, and all your colonies, so you descend into civil war as the Italian Social Republic. Try and reclaim all your lost territory and win ww2

Cool suggestion

[glacial stratus]

nah not rly, Bevrijding but less cooler

probably won't work without By Blood Alone

challenges are specifically designed for non-DLC users

[frank umbra]

The Dutch aren’t real

[glacial stratus]

swamp germans lmao

[ocean elk]

Can Balearic islands be Italian (as they are in their focus tree)?

[glacial stratus]

if its a 🇪🇸 core, you gotta have it

if it's a Spanish colony state, feel free to ignore it

[idle sequoia]

italian core no

but you can ask for them and if u helped nationalists in the civilwar they will 100% say yes

[glad vector]

@pliant kelp who is that general in your screenshot?

[glacial stratus]

oh i know the answer, its from the fascist focus tree, i think its called "Reform the Cristero Guard"

[craggy jacinth]

do we have to ally with another spanish speaking country or its not neccessary?

also all of spanish cores or colonies too?

i want to ping chak so much bcause he always responds but ill get ahold of me and wont do it

[empty lintel]

with 1 is fair

but if you want more go ahead

[solid gust]

You have to create a faction with at least one other spanish speaking country (listed ones pinned in this channel)

And its just mainland Spain, not their colonies

ty for not pinging me though, its appreciated

[craggy jacinth]

thank you

[pure dock]

Can I suggest a challenge

[solid gust]

you're always allowed to suggest a challenge, but i do not give out a prize if it's chosen, there's no finders fee so to speak

[glacial stratus]

⚠️ i can still vouch for this challenge suggestion

[cinder lintel]

Hello

[fickle river]

field marshall is Calles and general Jesús Degollado Guízar (from my memory)

[glacial stratus]

its so bizzare that with Calles being in politics/as a field marshal (game uses his younger portrait as general for some reason) the country is called Catholic Mexico

hoi4 never changes

[fickle river]

yeah

i wonder how many other people have more versions of their portrait

[fickle river]

true, never realized that it is called "Catholic"

xdd

[glacial stratus]

few leaders/generals have two versions so far

[fickle river]

but Calles, he was not even in the power at the time

like, why him?

[glacial stratus]

Fascist Chile El Jefe has different portraits when leader and general

and there is Wladyslaw Anders , one when he is in 🇵🇱 and the other is el generico

[glacial stratus]

pre Bosporus DLCs lack in historical details

[fickle river]

I think there are more people with generic portraits and real ones, but cant remember

[glacial stratus]

its a mish mash of info from Wikipedia in earlier DLCs

later DLCs have some sort of historical research in them, which i am thankful lol

for example, 🇹🇷 has the best research done so far in the game, in terms of historical authenticity

even though the focuses are infamous for being too long

i extremely dislike late game content in this game(or therefore, lack of)

i almost always drop my games around 1941-1943
(unless its nuke achievements, which are all trash by the way)

but 🇹🇷 and Soviet Union are the 2 only countries in this game that has enough content for 1945

and that's good for me

hopefully next DLC will rework nukes (they are so useless) and late year content in general

[umbral cipher]

the communist leader for argentina, one in a suit and one in a military uniform

[glacial stratus]

true

[charred timber]

thats putin

he can be leader of mexico

@glad vector

[glacial stratus]

doesnt even look like him lol

[charred timber]

They are the same person

[glacial stratus]

Mexican is not even close to young KGB Putin

big forehead must've confused you

[charred timber]

why you sending a picture of putin again?

[glacial stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nonverbal-gravity-falls-bill-cipher-gif-14925665718123521420

[solid gust]

Hey now

why we posting irl pics

HMMMM

[charred timber]

antasil asked question

i answered

[solid gust]

fair, but you can't post pictures of Putin considering he is still a current political leader (even his young pictures)

[solid gust]

@pulsar vault imma need you to resubmit, friend, you have to show your faction in the screenshot, please

same as you @pliant kelp

can't accept it if you dont show the faction

[charred timber]

So, i have to take the portrait from millenial dawn mod?🫡

Its hoi4

[solid gust]

technically no but also technically yes

it may be a mod but it is not vanilla, and the only things explicitly allowed are vanilla assets, all other modded content is subject to the rules

I allow some leeway with modded content but for certain leaders, since they are actively politicians rn, are still prohibited

[pulsar vault]

Sorry, now I fixed it

[solid gust]

ty friend, I would rather you get an eligible entry instead of being disqualified over something minor

[jaunty shell]

He does look like him…

[shut axle]

Can a AI country without elections change into another ideology if popularity is high enough?

[pliant kelp]

not really

[pliant kelp]

done

[glad vector]

Yes

[charred timber]

no, not always

not necassarely

it depends on what country it is, because for many it is deactivated

monarchist france for example can never switch

[naive wyvern]

if elections are activated, when support reaches 60% nation gets a decision for 100 pp to convert in any ideology besides non-aligned

[charred timber]

not ''elections'' but referendums

[naive wyvern]

yeah right

for most minors they are activated

[charred timber]

btw

[charred timber]

do you know by incidence, where i can read in the gamefiles, if it is activated or not?

[naive wyvern]

unfortunately no

[charred timber]

sadness 😦

[naive wyvern]

i think you should check PoliticalEvents.txt in events folder

but its only events

found it: common\scripted_triggers\00_scripted_triggers.txt

there are checks like check_has_focus_tree_to_switch_to_democratic and for communism and fascism and then countries that can't do a referendum for a particular ideology

[solid gust]

Not tryna derail the discussion here but going to mention that a new challenge will be announced tomorrow at 11 am EST tomorrow 👍🏻

[glacial stratus]

give us a hint, yo!

what continent?

we know at least its on planet Earth

[glad vector]

probably 😆

[glacial stratus]

i am no expert, but the date must be starting at 1st of January, 1936

precisely at 12:00

[glad vector]

well now, there is a 1939 start date. hardly anyone uses it ofc

would be a good one. Survive as Poland/ France/ Netherlands etc in 1939 start date. I mean its very well possible in the 36 start because you can direct the buildup and/ or politics. In 1939 you're days away from invasion.

[glacial stratus]

nah bro, its always much more fun to go from 1936

besides, challenges are all about "doing it fast"

would be weird to start from 1939

[charred timber]

holy shit

thank you alot

[naive wyvern]

i don't think its a complete list though
for example there is no italy in communism checks, but in game italy can't do communist referendum

but for the most part i think this is it

[charred timber]

its a start

i need that for testing many strategies

[charred timber]

survive as yugoslavia

[charred timber]

lol, there is a list sorted by female leaders, military juntas etc

thx a lot

[charred timber]

not sure if its correct file, portugal as well as turkey are not mentioned, even tho both can switch commie

[naive wyvern]

it mentions countries that can't switch from what i remember

[glacial stratus]

so far these countries have been used for challenges:

🇫🇷 , Andalusia( 🇲🇦 / 🇱🇾 / 🇩🇿 / 🇪🇬 ), 🇪🇸 , 🇲🇳 , 🇩🇪 , 🇵🇱 , 🇨🇦 , 🇿🇦

let me know if i missed a few, cause i definitely did

[charred timber]

we need latvia challenge

latvian lads for the win

[charred timber]

found a file tho, where leaders are listed for the signs in their name, like titles. ''King'' Zog is in the same list like ''Senor'' Hitler

lol

[naive wyvern]

xd

[glacial stratus]

had a Latvian gf lol

also potatoes, shprot/Brētliņas, Adazu chips and This is Хорошо 🇱🇻

[charred timber]

exactly

latvija best

thats why pdx needs to fix it

so many bugs in the tree

[glacial stratus]

needs some love, sure. It's always Estonia or Lithuania taking spotlight

[charred timber]

and why? because pdx stole the belarussian cores for ostland

[glacial stratus]

in general, when the topic is about Baltics

[charred timber]

latvia cant core minsk, even tho dev diary said, they can

latvia got scammed

justiceforlatvia

[glacial stratus]

i still want my 🇦🇿 challenge 🙂

but i can understand Chak wants it to be accessible to everyone, without DLCs

by it, i mean the challenges

[charred timber]

empire of fire best🔥

[glacial stratus]

i have so many questions

how the Yugoslav Regent got there?

[charred timber]

bug i discovered a while ago

[glacial stratus]

how does it work?

[charred timber]

made a video about it back then

[glacial stratus]

is it only with this guy or can be done with anyone?

[charred timber]

this guy only as far as i know

[glacial stratus]

oh man, 2016 Paradox was wild

to this day, i wonder what they smoked to get "Fire Horse Clique" and "Empire of Fire" names

[charred timber]

basically if you do civil war as yugoslavia, prince paul is leader of the opposing side (d04 tag)

[glacial stratus]

D04 doesn't pop for Yugo?

or is it like you have to be 100% ideology popularity and the opposing tag doesnt pop?

[charred timber]

later, if you win and some other nation exists as d04 (cw, collab, peacedeal result etc) if you then do the focus, sign triparte pact, prince paul because leader of the new d04

[glacial stratus]

does new D04 has to be brown ideology or any ideology?

[charred timber]

so, prince paul can be leader of literally every nation

[charred timber]

he becomes brown party leader

so, only thing you need to do is, d04 needs to be brown so he is the active ruler

just click my discord bio, look on my challenge, look for my video with the most views, i show it there

[charred timber]

they thought, lets just give azerbaidjan a cool name

[glacial stratus]

Realm of the Great God of Light for fash Mari El

its so bizzaro but so creative lol

[charred timber]

my beloved nation

greatest meme in hoi4

[glacial stratus]

Tenth Crusade for fash 🇲🇹

or Fourth Reich for West 🇩🇪

[charred timber]

nah, west germany is gone

you cant get it anymore since BBA

[glacial stratus]

how come? you cant split 🇩🇪 into two anymore?

[charred timber]

not with DDR and WGR tag

[glacial stratus]

F

[charred timber]

its just cheaper puppet prices for the allies in the regions in peacedeal

so, well you can be fourth reich

but you cant have klaus klauser anymore

cause at least germany gets wgr cosmetic tag

[glacial stratus]

is this vanilla? how do you get the True 🇸🇪 name?

[charred timber]

Yes

[glacial stratus]

how?

what path of 🇸🇪 gives that name?

[solid gust]

It's somewhere in the middle of somewhere

just over 15 minutes until entries close

[charred timber]

King of Gotland, but fascist

[glacial stratus]

can he go fash in game by your own accord?

or only via console commands?

as if set_ruling_party f

[charred timber]

Technically yes

All you need is commie support and low stability before you go down the tree

So, cw happens

You win

Then you do focus to become fascist

And commie support you get from strikes

Which would require that you have too high consoriction law, which is onky possible after you won a war. Which means pratically, sweden joins allies, gets invaded by germany, turn the tides, only then you do focus

Would be a great video idea tho. I think i will do that some day

[solid gust]

Alright, submissions are closed.

Winners will be announced in an hour alongside the newest challenge

[glad vector]

Random draw, right?

[solid gust]

yes

[glacial stratus]

and the next one is the timed one?

[subtle scroll]

is it possible to do anything in this game without dlcs

[signal frost]

Yes. I did a Spain challenge by turning off DLC.

It was time based though...

[subtle scroll]

if i get one dlc what should i buy

[signal frost]

No Step Back

[subtle scroll]

what does it add

[empty lintel]

tanks designer and focuses

and spirits of the army

[subtle scroll]

oh and what focuses?

[empty lintel]

eastern europe

[subtle scroll]

and poland?

baltics

[empty lintel]

yes

and soviets

[subtle scroll]

does it have a discount

like 5 euro

[empty lintel]

it had

[subtle scroll]

when will it have again one

[empty lintel]

like before on 1 september

quumn

autumn

[solid gust]

The Sand Of Time Challenge Rules:
-As with all challenges, this one must be completed in Ironman, and be achievement compatible. (Which means normal or higher difficulty) You can use Graphical mods (portraits/icons etc) but NO mods that change gameplay
-This will be a 1936 start, as with most challenges, and you cannot change your country at any time.
-You must start as Iran, and be Democratic to fulfil the challenge. You have to form the Persian Empire. There will be a basic image attached showing the required lands. Essentially you need all of Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan and Bulgaria with smaller portions on the others
-This challenge will be Timed with the Fastest run being the winner.
-As with many of the Difficult challenges, you must conquer these lands yourselves, so take screenshots often!
-For Submissions, there will need to be at least 1 image of you hovering over the trophy icon to verify Ironman+achievement compatibility, and 1 or 2 of you conquering the land that is required.
-1 Screenshot must be showing your country ideology, it can be the same as the one to verify your ironman
-You need to Screenshot when you flip democratic as well to ensure that you do not flip at the very end.
-You are allowed puppets this time around, but they cannot be in the required lands, outside of it is fine
-Unit restrictions in place will be no Paratroopers, and you have to have some form of Cavalry/Camels
-I reserve the right to add/edit rules at any time here, but it will not be unit restrictions or a change to how the winner is chosen.

[glad vector]

Ow awesome, me winning a dlc. I made a video on my mexico run, now i can combine it with a dlc giveaway!

[empty lintel]

well i didn't have luck this time lol

[naive wyvern]

we need to finish the run being democratic or we need to flip asap?

[solid gust]

need to flip asap

[fickle river]

what does that even mean?

flip asap

[naive wyvern]

but how do we justify on iraq, turkey and afghanistan if we are democratic

[signal frost]

Alright, to do the challenge truly democratically, you have to have the Soviets and Allies declare war on you via focus, defeat them, and then you can justify on the axis because they generated world tension

[glacial stratus]

i guess from Pahlavi Dynasty to Democracy

[glad vector]

I see no problem there

[signal frost]

You flip democratic at the end

Or do my gigachad method

[glacial stratus]

but they said flip asap

[hushed stag]

What method?

[signal frost]

This

Soviets and allies have focuses to invade you

[glacial stratus]

thats gonna take a while

like a lot

[signal frost]

And then you justify on the Axis because they generated world tension

I know

[glacial stratus]

no sooner than 1943

[naive wyvern]

they're gonna do it in like 1943 at best

[signal frost]

But it is the truly democratic way

[foggy sage]

This challenge reminds me that when forming the Persian Empire, Gibraltar gets cored for no reason 😂

[fickle river]

does not give you afganistan and iraq

[signal frost]

It isn't about winning, it is about being a gigachad

[solid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[signal frost]

Soviets can make Afghan communist, British invade Iraq

[glacial stratus]

nvm bro

[hushed stag]

Also turkey Afghanistan and Iraq don't generate world tension, how do you get them? Also can this challenge be in non historical?

[signal frost]

I am not giving winning strategies, only gigachad ones

[solid gust]

also i went in game to grab a rough screenshot instead of the map I provided at the start for the people who can't discern the required lands based off the other map

[foggy sage]

Seriously, is there a reason to core Gibraltar or it's just an error that you want to keep? 😅

[glacial stratus]

same question btw

@solid gust it works if we are allowed to flip democratic in the end, not ASAP

[signal frost]

Turkey joins allies, Britain invades Iraq, Afghan would be hardest

They can flip communist though

[solid gust]

I have no idea, I just think it's funny, personally

[fickle river]

its really luck based and takes like 20 years ingame

[naive wyvern]

so, we can't start conquest before we turn democratic?

[signal frost]

The first 2 easy

They happen 100%

[glacial stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-unga-bunga-loading-uga-gif-23786525

[signal frost]

I'm not saying you are winning with this strat

[hushed stag]

What if the soviets fall and they cant do the focus, thjs challenge is too luck based

[solid gust]

I would prefer ASAP as that is the spirit of the challenge, but if we all agree that would make it too difficult I can be convinced

[signal frost]

Then Axis AI is cracked for some reason

When does that happen

[glacial stratus]

besides how will someone prove that they flipped to Democracy first?

unless you want screenshot when 1) we are democracy first and 2) when we have all of the lands

[naive wyvern]

its not difficult, its just gonna be very long games based on a loooot of rng

[glacial stratus]

thats the only way i think its remotely possible

[fickle river]

screenshot in 1936 civil war xdd

[signal frost]

Wait turn off BftB for quick Turkish justification

[tacit sapphire]

Is the Persian empire a decision?

[glacial stratus]

yes

[fickle river]

no its an emotion

[signal frost]

Flip fascist, justify on necessary countries, then flip democratic

[glacial stratus]

a state of being

[foggy sage]

https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Formable_nations#Persian_Empire

[tacit sapphire]

Gonna be a pain tbh

[naive wyvern]

again, Chak wants us to flip democratic first

[glacial stratus]

@solid gust this right here is mutually exclusive with your statememnt of "flip asap"

What can we do?

[fickle river]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-there's-nothing-we-can-do-napoleon-pyritesian-gif-17490332095914688011

[signal frost]

Stay non aligned, justify, then flip democratic

Wait until ww2 starts I guess

[naive wyvern]

bruh

[solid gust]

hm alright, so let's do it this way

You have to flip democratic before forming the Persian empire, but before that you can try different strats

sound fair?

[tacit sapphire]

Should I force my friend to do this

[signal frost]

Much easier. Much better than my only democratic strat

[solid gust]

the more people who do the challenges the more chances of them getting a DLC

[fickle river]

i would say, just dont flip to anything else than democracy

[naive wyvern]

so basically we can do whatever we want, but before clicking the formable decision, we need to be democratic?

[fickle river]

is the most simple and still doable rule

[solid gust]

this is also what I am thinking

because the spirit of the challenge is to go democratic and reform the persian empire, its not to use fascist/communist ideologies to do it

[signal frost]

Technically it is as democratic Iran, click the button

But the true challenge is non aligned and democracy only

[vale cedar]

i have a question.can we do this with some grafical mods?

[empty lintel]

yes

[vale cedar]

alr

[empty lintel]

as long it's iron man compatible

[fickle river]

no, you must turn off your monitor

[solid gust]

nothing like RT56 or Kaisserreich, but things like fps map mod and stuff is perfectly fine

[signal frost]

And Ironman compatible

[vale cedar]

alr

[glacial stratus]

are we allowed to flip to Fascism/Communism/staying Monarchist before/during our expansion and flipping to Democracry at the very end?

[signal frost]

We can justify as non aligned, technically possible to only flip once

[glacial stratus]

yeah i understand, it will take valuable time

[naive wyvern]

technically its possible to flip twice at least

[empty lintel]

is this time based tho?

[tacit sapphire]

Don’t non aligned have the same restrictions as democratic?

[vale cedar]

does unhistorical count?

[tacit sapphire]

With war goals?

[empty lintel]

no

[empty lintel]

50% to justify

[hexed rain]

IS THIS GOOD AGAINS GERMAN EMPIRE ? (i play as Lutzemburg and have 10 bunkers)

[empty lintel]

world tension

[tacit sapphire]

Wrong chat bro

[hushed stag]

Non aglined can justify at 50%

[vale cedar]

wrong place

[hexed rain]

ou

okey i am sorrY

[vale cedar]

no problem

[glacial stratus]

Non-Aligned needs 50% World Tension

Democracies need 40% but they can 1)guarantee nations and 2)they cant justify on a country who did not generate World Tension

[fickle river]

time: yes
based: definitely

[tacit sapphire]

50% would be a pain

I think the wt happens in 39

[glacial stratus]

Persians are ew, but democracy at least makes up for it lol

[fickle river]

least unrealistic hoi4 scenario

[tacit sapphire]

Imma study this more than I studied my test (it had a back)

[glacial stratus]

Blue ideology? never heard of it

[empty lintel]

hoi4 more important than school fr

[hushed stag]

Do we have to be at peace?

[glacial stratus]

i think so, yeah

that was always the rule

[fickle river]

you are Persia, there is not peace

[hushed stag]

Damn, this is going to be hard

[glacial stratus]

thats the beauty of it 🙂

[empty lintel]

also being the fastest is pain too

[hushed stag]

I have an idea

[glacial stratus]

i have 0 idea on how flipping to Democracy first will help us

[fickle river]

ALWAYS HAS BEEN

[empty lintel]

you have to flip demo asp?

[brave inlet]

how tf we bring turkey to war 💀

[glacial stratus]

it would make much more sense if we are allowed to Form Persia first and then switch to 🗽

[tacit sapphire]

Yes

[hushed stag]

So wait , if the axis cap the soviets and Im also in the peace deal, does it count?

[fickle river]

you dont have to really go first democracy if i understand properly

[empty lintel]

you would need some participation

[glacial stratus]

bro i think its borderline impossible to justify on Non-Aligned countries in 1937 Democratic Iran

given that its Historical mode on

[fickle river]

you jsut have to be democratic when clicking the decision

[hushed stag]

Yeah

[fickle river]

why not non-historical?

[glacial stratus]

whats the difference between annexing all and flipping to democratic; and annexing all, waiting for democracy and then hitting the decision?

you just waste time

[fickle river]

https://tenor.com/view/kingdom-of-heaven-nothing-everything-saladin-nothing-everything-gif-26584233

[glacial stratus]

oh goodness, i realized Democratic Iran has generic portrait and non existent democracy

[solid gust]

Historical is not required, unless stated which in this one it is not

You may flip to non democratic ideologies but you cannot only flip at the very end, you should be flipping at most somewhere near the middle of it (hopefully)

Flipping at the very end kinda defeats the purpose of the challenge which is to accomplish it as democratic, but I can see the usefulness of flipping to another ideology first

I am also slow to reply because I am doing more than one thing at once, apologies

[glacial stratus]

i have ironman compatible mod for all of the irl leaders that dont have portraits in base game, and Iran actually has communist leader

and i hate generic portraits oof

[obtuse mauve]

How would you reform persia tho, Iran doesn't got focuses right

[brave inlet]

I give up 💀 good luck boys.

[glacial stratus]

decision

[zinc parrot]

What countries are needed to be conquered

[signal frost]

Decision

[glacial stratus]

just check in game lol

[zinc parrot]

Can't rn

[glacial stratus]

i got u bro

its basically 🇹🇷 , 🇮🇶 , 🇦🇫

[zinc parrot]

Thanks

[empty lintel]

some of russia?

[glacial stratus]

surprisingly no

you dont have to invade Soviet Union

like ironically you cant have Azerbaijan haha

[zinc parrot]

Any colonies?

[empty lintel]

because chak sent an image of having extra territories

isn't that required

[glacial stratus]

.

yep

still no 🇦🇿 hahahahaha

we are free from invading Soviet Union

[zinc parrot]

So Egypt

[glacial stratus]

that's a relief 😅

[solid gust]

the persian empire lands were fluctuating constantly, the map I've given was the one for 490 BC i believe

[signal frost]

Just be able to click the decision, right

I think that is as easy as it gets

[empty lintel]

so if we only get the countries required in decision it's gonna be valid?

[glacial stratus]

Chak , but then again it raises the question of credibility

anyone can flip at the very end and lie about it

maybe there should be a rule where before conquests we need to screenshot our democratic flip as well?

remember how you needed proof with invading Cuba and PhIllipines as Spain?

[solid gust]

I can add the screenshotting of democratic flip

[glacial stratus]

do the same reasoning

otherwise there will be monikers lying about flipping to Democracy very early but they in reality did it very late

i think its more than fair

[zinc parrot]

ACCORDING TO THE WIKI: we need Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Cyprus, Palestine, Jordan, and turkey

Sighs for the 2947395037264940826495th time

[naive wyvern]

the problem is that you can't justify on countries that didn't generate world tension.
iraq and afghanistan is gonna be invaded in 1942+ which is really not fun
turkey is gonna join the war even later in 1944+
so it would make sense to flip to democracy after we justified on needed countries

[empty lintel]

wait but people don't have bftp turkey wouldn't have nothing

able to do

nothing

[naive wyvern]

right

[glacial stratus]

honestly staying Monarchist would be just fine imo

[naive wyvern]

yes, thats what im asking, stay non-aligned, then switch when you justified and declared on needed countries

[glacial stratus]

Democracy sounds like shooting yourself in the foot for no reason

[glacial stratus]

like this slimy flipping to D party while justifying creates unnecesary problems to be honest

[empty lintel]

but how much it takes to world tension to raise to 50%

[wet iron]

isn't it possible to declare war on everyone you need to conquer and then flip?

[glacial stratus]

nope

[naive wyvern]

on historical ww2 start i think

[empty lintel]

go unhist i could be thinking

since it raises faster

[naive wyvern]

in unhist it could be even worse

but can be better

its a big rng

[glacial stratus]

@solid gust are you really sure about democracy? i get the challenge thing, but i think nobody here agrees with it tbh

like guys, don't you think we should ditch the Democracy and just make challenge to be Non-Aligned only?

[naive wyvern]

it really doesn't make sense that we need to do a conquest being democratic

it's doable but can be achieved on historical only in 1943+
which is kinda weird for time based challenge

[glacial stratus]

let's do a democratic thing then (lol)

not sure if it will change your decision Chak, but i will try nonetheless

Challenge should be to form Persia and stay Non-Aligned, who gets it the earliest

will put emotes for voting
👍 - yes
👎 - no

you are the boss, regardless

[obtuse mauve]

what states do you need for it?

[solid gust]

the democratic portion has to stay, respectfully

changing that part makes the challenge too easy imo

yes the democratic portion makes it difficult but I do not want a flip at the end, and a stay of non aligned does not achieve the same thing.

Just dont flip to democratic at the very end and do whatever before then

[glacial stratus]

no paratroopers and tanks can be rule as well

[solid gust]

tanks have to be allowed since there is an ideology restriction

(i try not to put too many restrictions on the challenge)

[naive wyvern]

so when is the latest we can flip?

[glacial stratus]

so if we were to flip to Democracy, the thing i mentioned earlier about loophole

will it be a rule?

like we need proof of flipping first

[solid gust]

its already been edited into the rule set

[glacial stratus]

and conquering 2nd

ok great

oh and nice Prince of Persia reference, i just realized lol

[solid gust]

considering this is a timed run I cannot say exactly what date you can wait until a flip to achieve it since everyone will have different dates

I'd say before conquering everything (as would be required by the screenshot rule added in) but if you conquer, say, Iraq before the full flip to democratic that is fine

[naive wyvern]

alright, that sounds good

[tacit sapphire]

For submissions does it have to be a screenshot? Or a video?

[glacial stratus]

screenshot

no video

make sure that you hover over the trophy icon

[tacit sapphire]

Then how would Chak know when we flip

[solid gust]

there are multiple screenshots required

the harder challenges (like this one) typically require 2-3 screenshots at a minimum

[tacit sapphire]

As in the default showing map time and achievements

What would be the 2nd?

[solid gust]

you need one proving you have everything required at the very end
one proving ideology and the date of it
one required showing you have troops in the different lands
and one that shows you have ironman+achievements avaialble (which can also be one of the previous ones)

[tacit sapphire]

How do u prove date of ideology? A normal screenshot with the country tab open?

[solid gust]

yeah

[tacit sapphire]

I feel like I’m answering too many questions

Ok

[tacit sapphire]

Asking*

[fickle river]

you feel something?

[pine niche]

I only have starter pack and mtg, so this at least looks achievable. Thing is, how DO you expand as democratic Iran?

[tacit sapphire]

U don’t

[pine niche]

Oh I see, so an expansionist ideology then flip democratic like the CIA kicked in?

[tacit sapphire]

Idk

[pine niche]

Should be fun I guess.

[tacit sapphire]

It’s hoi4

[pine niche]

I’m thinking I go fascist for manpower and thematic “neo-persianism”; then flip to democratic once the empire is restored. Will that work?

Oh wait, I can’t flip at the end, I have to flip in the middle.

Either way, should be a fun challenge.

[glacial stratus]

you have to flip but in between justifying the war goals, if that makes sense

you have to prove that you flipped to democratic in a screenshot

like before and after images, so to speak

[pine niche]

Sounds complicated, will be safer practicing USA or Germany

[wet bone]

Why can’t you flip at the end?

[solid gust]

its part of the additional rules for the challenge

pinned in this channel

[charred timber]

Still not latvija 😦

[minor lion]

if i cant flip how would i ever be able to justify on peaceful contries like afganistan and iraq?

[tacit sapphire]

yknow

I thought the persian empire was smaller

imma try to make a hoi4 version of this map rq

[glacial stratus]

so basically get the map version of formable and not the in-game one

and make sure to be already democratic before pressing the decision, got it

[tacit sapphire]

this should be the needed provinces

not 100% accurate

hi gustavo

[empty lintel]

how do you know i'm online

i didn't even write

[tacit sapphire]

U were typing right before i said hi

[empty lintel]

i didn't writr

[tacit sapphire]

prob means u clicked on the channel

I know all

my intelligence is beyond ur comprehension

[solid gust]

they're in your walls, gustavo

[tacit sapphire]

fr!

[lethal prawn]

so are these the states needed?

[solid gust]

essentially yes

you can take more is perfectly fine

its just that you have to form the persian empire

[empty lintel]

does this mean i need to have some cavalry?

[glacial stratus]

@tacit sapphire check if your friend used paratroopers or not to cap the 🇫🇷

(ofc they can always lie and we will never know lol)

[empty lintel]

i mean the french template are horrible anyways

[glacial stratus]

they had to work really fast then

since it takes a solid two years at least for world tension to grow to 50

given that its done on historical, impressive

[empty lintel]

i'm trying unhist

6% world tension rn

lol

[glacial stratus]

even then this runs question of how did they even join Axis

and why Italy is still alive as fascist, not puppeted even

[empty lintel]

they don't have an faction

you can see soviets inviting

[glacial stratus]

oh i realized

they are at war

[empty lintel]

so it's invalid

lol

[glacial stratus]

ooooof

[tacit sapphire]

Ok

[glacial stratus]

there's one thing though thats a big dealbreaker

their wars are not finished

its usually the rule in timed challenges where you have to be at peace

they have to either finish them real quick or go for restart and get a faster time record, so there you go

a reminder

[tacit sapphire]

@solid gust peace is required right?

[solid gust]

@dire pivot I have manually verified you, don't do any funny business and follow the rules are you will be fine

[dire pivot]

Thank you so much. My mom took my phone last week, so I couldnt verify 🤣

[exotic patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-hearts-of-iron-4-funny-jumping-jacks-gif-3864036126484251637

[dire pivot]

@tacit sapphire told me it is required to be at peace for my submission to count?

[solid gust]

correct

[dire pivot]

I saw a picture with a red line, is that the required area, or am I only supposed to form persia/click the disicion?

[solid gust]

Zerkangar actually outlined the required states pretty well, and I have the map I used as the requirements pinned to the channel

[dire pivot]

Okay, I will defeat the axis and the soviets tomorrow and re-send my run 😵‍💫

Should be fun...

[empty lintel]

at what date was world tension over 50%

[dire pivot]

I used some cav during my invasion of Iraq, but I dont have a screenshot of the battle, will that be a problem?

[dire pivot]

I played non historical

[solid gust]

I would have verified you earlier but I was finishing up the last of my 2nd job's tasks

[dire pivot]

Everything went south pretty quick

[empty lintel]

what

weird

i played to 1938

and 12% world tension

[dire pivot]

ye

Historical is super bad

[empty lintel]

no

i played on non hist

[dire pivot]

I like the caos xD

[empty lintel]

and 12% world tension

[dire pivot]

rng

[naive wyvern]

wait, is this map is what we need? because its not the states needed for persian empire

[dire pivot]

I think you need both

The map and forming persian empire

[empty lintel]

so i will do this to make more world tension

[naive wyvern]

bulgaria and parts of soviets are not needed, part of libya and dodecanese are missing

also a part of raj which is not needed for persia and one more state of egypt is missing

[solid gust]

there is the part of the in-game requirements to form persia, but the challenge was made with the pinned map in mind

[naive wyvern]

so is it the map, the decision or both?

[solid gust]

the map, you just have to trigger the persian empire to submit

you can expand further than the required lands but you need to have the required lands + form the persian empire

[naive wyvern]

because it makes it 10x harder

[solid gust]

this is the harder challenge for a reason, everyone keeps telling me the challenges are too easy even when hard

[dire pivot]

I like the challenge. The backside is school tomorrow...

Debating doing an all-nighter... Its 2 am currently 🤣

[empty lintel]

ok then

as jan mayen, conquer all of europe

real

[solid gust]

bruh go to bed lmao

your studies come first

then HOI

[dire pivot]

Yea... Ill finish the run tomorrow...

[dire pivot]

My steam account says otherwise...

😭

[empty lintel]

it's 7:57 pm here lol

so i got plenty time to do it

[solid gust]

a totally not me part of the twitter account has already said that a Studious general is more effective than one who is not

[solid gust]

east coast gang gang

[empty lintel]

i'm from chile

[solid gust]

i cringed typing that out

[empty lintel]

lol

[solid gust]

STILL COUNTS

Ur just the opposite of east

dont worry about it

[dire pivot]

Which part 👀 ?

Cuz Im going to Santiago and Los Angeles (The Chiliean version) in december and january

[empty lintel]

yeah i'm from santiago

[dire pivot]

Do you have some recommendations? Ive got 5-6 days in santiago

January 2-7th

[empty lintel]

i don't really have any, but just gotta say chilean accent is confusing

lol

spanish chilean accent

[dire pivot]

I know 2 spanish words...

I hope english and/or german will be sufficient 😊

[empty lintel]

well maybe because 19% of chile can speak some english

[tacit sapphire]

someone from denmark will go to Chile

non historical moment

[dire pivot]

Non Historical >>> 🤣

[tacit sapphire]

sleep

[charred timber]

Why not Gibraltar?

Gibraltar is the best persian core state

[glacial stratus]

no school = no good grades
no good grades = no graduation
no graduation = no university
no university = no degree

no degree = no job
no job = no money

no money = no DLCs for Paradox Interactive games

[charred timber]

Upside, you can spend your free time, homeless but do a lot of sport

[dire pivot]

oh... I did not think about this. 😳

[fickle river]

man has a lot of experience

[fickle river]

i think that is something almost every latin american countries says (well who would expect the same as it is in Spain)

[ornate thunder]

do you need Grecce

do i need this part

[charred timber]

You need thrace, plovdiv, varna and southern dobrudscha

[charred timber]

For full transparecy and clearification, could you pin this make with the hoi4 provinces? Thats a bit confusing

[ornate thunder]

Damn

I guess I need to restart

[charred timber]

Like, is thrace required or not? Is armenia required?

[glacial stratus]

You need Thrace, you don't need Caucasus

attacking Soviet Union is out of the question

[ornate thunder]

is that ok

[naive wyvern]

is it? according to the map someone made there are plenty of soviet states that we need

i'm talking about this map

[glacial stratus]

oh so you need to invade Caucasus as well

that's the hardest challenge so far

[ornate thunder]

damn missing 2 states because i didnt know

do i need to get them so my run counts? im not fighting germany

[naive wyvern]

@ornate thunder have you ended all your wars? its not visible on your screenshots

[ornate thunder]

i have a smal one with etheopia

didnt even notice

[ornate thunder]

do need to end it

[glacial stratus]

yes

[ornate thunder]

done

is my run valid now?

[glacial stratus]

I recreated this map

to be even more specific

[naive wyvern]

saudi arabia included?

[glacial stratus]

long story short, you need Thrace of 🇬🇷, 2/3 of 🇧🇬 , Dobrudja from 🇷🇴 , Dodecanese Islands from 🇮🇹 , bits of Pakistan from British Raj, the Entire Middle East, all of Transcaucasia and 2/3 of 🇹🇲 , 🇺🇿 and all of 🇹🇯

[ornate thunder]

Im waiting for an official to say something because im really confused rn

[glacial stratus]

say what? they already pinned the image

these are the lands you need for challenge

no exceptions , and yes i know, this is evil. but that's the whole point of the challenge 😈

[ornate thunder]

👍 kill germany it is

[glacial stratus]

its basically a world conquest, surprisingly enough, you dont even have to kill Germany

but everybody else

[ornate thunder]

i need to because the own 2states i need

[glacial stratus]

your enemies are 🇬🇧 , 🇫🇷 , 🇬🇷 , 🇧🇬 , 🇷🇴 , Raj ( 🇵🇰 , 🇮🇳 , 🇧🇩 ), Soviet Union ( 🇦🇿 , 🇦🇲 , 🇬🇪 , 🇹🇲 , 🇺🇿 , 🇹🇯 ), 🇸🇦 , 🇴🇲 , 🇾🇪

so yeah, have fun 😄

@ornate thunder dude your submissions are unreadable

just press F12

[ornate thunder]

im deleting anyway becauser my run os not complete

[glacial stratus]

good luck ✌️

[ornate thunder]

🙏 thanks

[glacial stratus]

@dire pivot you also miss few territories, like Middle East , Bulgaria , Caucasus and Central Asia

[solid gust]

they're in school

[glacial stratus]

yo , check the map ☝️

[solid gust]

I pinned zerkangar's as that was the most accurate representation of the required states

[glacial stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-cigarette-moment-gif-19565514

[charred timber]

thx

[dire pivot]

Yes... I will finish the war with the Axis and invade the soviet later tonight and resend it 🙂

My save local save of the game deleted itself... 😭
Is this a bug or can you find saves elsewhere?

Guess Ill have to do it all again 🥲

[ornate thunder]

How long until challenge ends?

[solid gust]

all challenges run for 2 weeks, unless I mention an extension

but as of now I do not have an extension in mind

[glacial stratus]

you have time until 19th of September

[glacial stratus]

R.I.P , its only local save

you have to restart

Chak, will there be 1 winner slot or 3, as usual?

[solid gust]

3 as usual

[inner orchid]

is ok to swicht ideologis or i need to stay democratic the entire game?

[ornate thunder]

I think you need to stay democratic

[bitter thistle]

My birthday!!!!

🗣️

Chat I gotta win this challenge for that birthday dlc

[glacial stratus]

good luck ✌️

[glacial stratus]

you can switch ideologies as many times as you want, but you will lose precious time

in the end you have to be democratic, no questions asked

[inner orchid]

oke

[dire pivot]

Go fascist/commuist ASAP with civil war, justify wargoals and flip dem

Thats the way

[inner orchid]

i am gonna do this challeng with peak music!!!🗣️

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2JjnJnaJg5x8wanYm1qM5D?si=d37f55516b494831

[fickle river]

oh man, another insane challenge, another exploit stacking

[glacial stratus]

oof little bro, none of this is even remotely related to WW2

but you do you, i guess

[inner orchid]

dosnt matter my friend MF DOOM on top

[glacial stratus]

sorry boss, i don't listen to that kind of music 🤷

[empty lintel]

it seems hard to flip 2 times

the game i was currently doing i waited for 50% world tension

[dire pivot]

Go for the two PP focusses first (Both politcal, cant remember names) hire fascist demagogue first, start civilwar and fire demagogue and hire democratic reformer. While fascist get alle your wars done, go for france & uk early, if you are good at micro you can defeat both before 1940

[empty lintel]

how are you gonna beat uk

you need to be at peace

[ornate thunder]

naval

[dire pivot]

Naval invade?

[empty lintel]

with what navy

[dire pivot]

You only need one ship, if you declare war while they are at peace

It takes the AI 1 hour to deploy their navy

5 divs for france and uk the moment you declare

[ornate thunder]

this

[dire pivot]

Its hard to pull of, both invasions have to go well

And you must have extra divisions to help the invasions

[empty lintel]

wasn't insta naval invading patched

[dire pivot]

works fine for me, but I dont own any DLC, could be different? Idk

[empty lintel]

i could go historical and steal vichy navy

lol

i'm going to try that later

[dire pivot]

Cant steal navys 😦

It should be a part of the base game imo

[naive wyvern]

so its allowed to switch to anything other then democracy?

[solid gust]

you just cannot switch at the very end

to democratic

before then go wild

[naive wyvern]

for example we start non-aligned
switch to fascist
then in mid-run to democratic

is this ok?

[dire pivot]

I just finished my 2nd go for it

[solid gust]

yes

[empty lintel]

does this count

[dire pivot]

18 jun 1942 👀

[solid gust]

im not sure what you mean, this seems fine

[dire pivot]

There are still ways to improve it tho

[solid gust]

its not the completed challenge but you're on the right path

[dire pivot]

Got pretty lucky with the RNG both the poish and japanese invaded the soviets

But I dont have La resistance so I cant make collabs on the soviets :/

[dire pivot]

Was this regarding my run or gustavo12_3?

[solid gust]

gustavo's

[dire pivot]

So mine is fine? Or do I need all of arabia?

[solid gust]

i didnt look at yours yet, i am working my 2nd job rn so poking my head in every now and again

[dire pivot]

Oh! Sorry for disturbing you then 🤗

[ornate thunder]

dont think i can beat that

respect

[empty lintel]

i think my run is pretty screwed

lol

uk is on axis

[dire pivot]

Unlucky

[dire pivot]

If you have La Resistance you could do it a few months faster with full collab on the soviets

So there are still room for improvements, but I sadly dont have the DLC 🥲

[empty lintel]

i literally have a 7k weapons deficit

lol

[dire pivot]

Garrisons?

[empty lintel]

yes

[dire pivot]

Build ww1 riffles

and use them for your garrisons

And have a line of your better guns for your actual army

[solid gust]

It's not a disturbance, it's just some photoshop work is all

this is technically tomorrow's work but I wanted to do it today instead so that I can go out to lunch with my spouse lmao

burgers > work sometimes

[dire pivot]

Sheesh... Weekend work aswell?

[solid gust]

I work 3 jobs

I am a workaholic

I enjoy working too much

[ornate thunder]

anything missing?

[dire pivot]

Did you cap the soviets????

Or how did you get their territories?? Damn.

[empty lintel]

is it necessary to get the territories as the image said

or you can just form persia and it should be valid

[naive wyvern]

my guess is they intervened in soviet civil war

[dire pivot]

True, thats kinda smart...

[ornate thunder]

Civil war

Justify on Soviet Union in the civil war

[dire pivot]

I will steal that strat 👀

I used WAY too long to cap the soviets

[ornate thunder]

Good luck