challenge-questions

[glacial stratus]

when will you check the finalists, after 2 weeks same as usual or...?

[solid gust]

every 2 weeks

unless I specify a delay or shortening of the challenge, which there isn't any at this time

[glacial stratus]

are we allowed to delete our entry and post again if we want to retry the challenge?

to get earlier in-game date*

[solid gust]

As long as only one submission is present when the challenge ends, yes.

You can of course delete an entry to resubmit. The rule about more than one entry is to cut down on the amount of posts I have to go through and change who's where in the standings 🙂

[glacial stratus]

i just want to make sure, just in case. The point of this challenge is to SPEEDRUN the puppeting of 🇬🇧 and 🇮🇪 , or just puppet them at our own leisure-no pressure?

[solid gust]

this one is NOT timed, its a chill one

winners will be chosen at random, only people who cannot win are those who placed in the previous challenge

[heady marlin]

do I need to send a video or a screenshot?

[solid gust]

Screenshot showing its achievement compatible, and showing that the require land is puppeted

like this for the achievement drop down window #challenge-submissions message

[heady marlin]

ah, so Iron Mode on

alr, cheers

[solid gust]

ironman and achievement compatible, yes

[slim sentinel]

Is this mod acceptable for challenges? It is ironman compatible, but not graphical. It just adds a keybind to Naval, Supplied Naval, and Paradrops.

[kindred shoal]

does historical ai have to be on for this?

[slim sentinel]

On average how many people participate in challenges?

[signal frost]

If it is ironman compatiable, it is allowed basically

[solid gust]

It is just a hotkey, I dont see the issue...unless the hotkey basically wins you the game

does it

[rugged swift]

No

Hnm

Canada take UK

Feel the easy way to do it is swap fascist and naval invade through axis

But idk how it's gonna play out

Could be a ploy for paradropping France then invading Britain

[glacial stratus]

already did the challenge

[slim sentinel]

How!? I'm in 1939, and I haven't even built a proper army!

[glacial stratus]

i took my sweet time and was done in 1938, could've done in 1937 if i wasn't so impatient

[slim sentinel]

._.

[glad vector]

this is going to take longer than expected....

[glacial stratus]

1st so far to send the submission haha 😄

[glad vector]

you already submitted it...

[slim sentinel]

They might not enter anytime a Latin American nation declares on another Latin American nation they don't enter. To be fair it's Latin American against Latin America.

[glad vector]

what in gods name are you talking about?

[slim sentinel]

I'm an idiot.

[glacial stratus]

unless 🇮🇪 is secret Latino country

[slim sentinel]

^^^^

Well this is my point in the run.

The Fins joined the allies and now the Allies are fighting both the Axis and Comintern. Nice.

[glacial stratus]

i summon thee, Chak-Chak (deliberately not @ out), is it all good? i got other screenshots if needed

[dawn apex]

how will scoring work for this challenge? is it based on time or random?

[solid gust]

this one is random

I will check if the run is submitted properly, and then grab one of my colleagues to choose screenshots

i'll block out usernames to make sure its fair, and then choose winners that way

[worldly surge]

Is the challenge h to e first to complete or smt?

Can you just show the achievement in steam?

Because you can just use one of those steam things that give you achievements

AND

Is this a timed/ race challenge

[lost lotus]

^^

[glad bough]

any tips for the challenge?

[glad vector]

making a video on it 😉

[glad bough]

alr

i can never get enough troops or a large enough navy to invade when ww2 comes around 😔

[glad vector]

I have no idea how the '37 people are doing it,

I used dutch east indies colonial manpower...

[glad bough]

im literally in 1939 with a wopping thirty one divisions....................

HOW ARE THEY GETTING LIKE 100 DIVISIONS

[solid gust]

@lucid cliff Apologies for the ping, however your submission lacks the dropdown menu for ironman achievement compatiblity, just the trophy being coloured isnt enough

[lucid cliff]

My bad sorry

[solid gust]

its okay, i am simply letting you know before i sign off for the weekend so you can correct it 🙂

[glacial stratus]

@glad vector i like the fact that you pressed Manage Subjects tab in your submission

i wish i did that too

[worldly surge]

Wait, are glitches and cheese strata allowed?

Like space marines etc?

[hardy bloom]

2 carriers and 2 battleships sunk in 1 engagement?

[solid gust]

glitches are not allowed no.

If it has been found that you've used glitches it invalidates your entry

[hardy bloom]

and 50divisions encircled?

[solid gust]

wdym

[hardy bloom]

encircled 60 and destroyed them in italian east africa

wait idk if ik what this channel is meant for

is it trying to get a challenge

or something uve done

[solid gust]

the challenge tabs are for the current HOI challenge that I announce biweekly

#hearts-of-iron-news message

[hardy bloom]

ahh

[worldly surge]

Space marines?

[solid gust]

they're fine, provided you aren't cheating them in and such

[worldly surge]

Wait, how do I prove I didn’t get the UK from a peace deal?

[worldly surge]

Is it fine if I use one brigade temps

[glad vector]

I don't think many people will struggle with this challenge, but I did make a video on it. Check it out on my channel 🙂 [/shameless plug]

[rugged swift]

Waiting for the Canadian WC entry

Might do it myself.

[outer ermine]

can i see how good others did? like what is best time rn

is it about who does it first or who does it faster

[north garden]

this one is random

[outer ermine]

so i just gotta do the challenge and hope i get chosen?

[north garden]

yep

[outer ermine]

alr

[solid gust]

how dare you break rule 6

[solid gust]

both on the honour system, and if you are chosen as a winner I may ask you to recount how you managed it

some of these challenges have an honour system part of it, but if there are accomplishments of a given challenge that do not make sense, even to seasoned players, I will have to ask for a step by step of how you accomplished it.

I also do not condone bug abusing to get things done. Certain levels of cheesing is fine, but bug abusing is not

Also apologies for the late replies here, I don't work on the weekends but I also didn't check in on the discord this weekend as I was busy with another job

[dawn apex]

Is paradropping ports not allowed? Also I need to take uk directly, like from a peace deal against them?

[solid gust]

I'd advise against it, but i won't restrict it for this challenge seeing as its not time based

and yes, has to be directly taken from the UK

[soft coral]

give me challenge

[echo anchor]

is thsi the chat where i can challenge someone?

[rugged swift]

To the death

[echo anchor]

all noobs

took 5 hours to answer

[lucid cliff]

When will the challenge end

[solid gust]

this particular challenge will end next week, as we have thew anniversary going on and i dont wanna spam the server with pings

[echo anchor]

anyone here...?

[sharp patio]

I just started as Italy, conquered the allies, destroyed the entire navy, moved to total mobilization when the war began, and then after the war disarmed nation.

[rugged swift]

how long until this ends?

wanna finish a wc run on this for the meme but idk if have time

[sharp patio]

Okay, here it is.

[silver dragon]

why is an orange orange but an apple is not apple

[spiral lava]

When are the focuses on SVO?

[spice sand]

Howd you get enough oil?

[lucid cliff]

africa?

british colony

[glacial stratus]

capture 🇦🇿 Baku

[astral bay]

Question, if you win a prize from a challenge, you aren't able to win the prize from future challenges?

[rugged swift]

You can, just not b2b

[astral bay]

Alright then, kind of convenient since once you won a prize, you can take a break from challenges for a while.

[solid gust]

when you win a challenge, you cannot win the very next one

that way everyone gets a chance if a very very good player takes the prize in a given challenge, and allows for more people to participate overall (this is why I encourage people to get others to participate so that we can increase the playerpool and more people can have a shot at winning)

[astral bay]

What determines who will be top winners? I know it's not always a time thing.

[solid gust]

I try to circulate win conditions to make winning more accessible in some challenges so that its just for fun and others based on time/skill

I ask my colleagues sometimes, other times I ask some of the more skilled players if a certain challenge is difficult or not and such, and based on their answer I'll go for a 'x conquest, fastest wins' or funny border challenge, randomizer/random choice wins'

I am the one who usually confirms the winners but at times I will ask my colleagues to do so, in the case that I do not want it to seem like I am just choosing who 'I like' in submissions. I want all submissions to be fair 🙂

though i will say...someone DID submit a chak's dominion faction here so they kinda HAVE to win now....

[glacial stratus]

will the winners will be picked randomly , like the previous challenge contesters?

like if you pick randomly, do you use randomizer sites, "gather tags with player names onto a hat and choose" or how does it work?

[solid gust]

I tend to confirm that an entry is legitimate, if I have concerns regarding one I ask questions, then if its not randomized we go based off the required criteria, if its random like this one, I will have a colleague choose an entry or I will label runs a number between 1 and (however many entries there are), and use a random number generator to choose a winner

[glacial stratus]

great, thanks for the answer 🙂

[rugged swift]

👀

[echo anchor]

is there a way to win as usa against mongolia?

[slim sentinel]

How do you pick the winners? Do you just put usernames on a wheel and spin it 3 times for who gets that prizes and make sure the names you selected aren't the ones from the previous challenge?

[astral bay]

The answer to your question is already answered above

[glacial stratus]

bro just scroll up , its not hard to do

[glacial stratus]

delete system.32

[echo anchor]

where is that

[glacial stratus]

@astral bay one entry above in submissions also did it with Communist 🇨🇦

[astral bay]

Yeah but aside from me, there is only one submission that did a communist one.

[glad vector]

Really? I thought i saw several

There's mine and i thought one more

[carmine wren]

Pls make the next challenge really stupid

[glacial stratus]

i want nice clean borders, and play as routes that one wouldn't even try on singleplayer (like i haven't done 🇱🇾 conquest b4)

but unhinged works too

i can do 🇦🇿 world conquest too, just saying (definitely not biased)

[astral bay]

Bhutan world conquest when?

[glacial stratus]

when is the deadline for today, btw?

[astral bay]

idk really, can't really find a pattern for when new challenges drop

[solid gust]

challenge changes happen when I have a few of my other tasks for the day done, this time the challenge will swap around 11am EST, as I have some important things to get done first 👍🏻

There is no real 'pattern' its simply when I can do it

[glacial stratus]

1 hr 40 mins to go then

[rugged swift]

In future are you able to pin & put how people are to win a challenge in the challenge post, after a few submissions can be a bit rough

[solid gust]

I did make the list of things but I did not pin it, as the general pin is still there, but we can try it this time so long as people remind me to unpin it on the very next challenge

[solid gust]

Avenging 1898 rules
-You must start as Spain, then win the civil war as Carlist Spain. No other will be accepted. The Civil war must be resolved before you take the lands required.
-The Lands required for this channel are **The Philippines, Guam, Cuba and Puerto Rico ** You may puppet them, but I required a screenshot closeup of you owning all of these lands, and the war being resolved. You cannot simply just take these lands via peace deal, you must take them yourself. If you are still at war but not with the USA, you must show that the USA is not included in said conflict.
-Ironman must be enabled and achievements must be open. When submitting your entry, you MUST hover over the trophy icon to get the drop down menu, or the entry will not be accepted. I have been lenient on this but from now on I will not accept entries without it.
-Must be done on the latest patch, no rollbacks
-Graphical mods are allowed so long as they do not invalidate achievements
-This challenge is timed, fastest time will win. If you do this challenge within a very short time, you will be required to give me a step by step explanation of how you did it

UPDATED
-Must provide a screenshot of The Phillippines and Guam Capitulating to your troops

[rugged swift]

Ayyy first one I joined I won lol

Can't win this next one but seems like a fun challenge

[astral bay]

Congrats!

[rugged swift]

I have all the dlc already though -_'

[charred timber]

with the rules like that, it's easily do-able mid 1937

[rugged swift]

Not too clued up in playing Spain, so will be interesting

[solid gust]

I'd encourage you to participate anyways, since I want everyone to play them regardless of winning or not

Though if you have all DLC you may choose one to give to a friend or family member

[rugged swift]

I have no friends 🙃🙃

[solid gust]

reminder to @glacial stratus and @astral bay that discussions are here, not the other channel, friends 🙂

[rugged swift]

Can I hold for future DLC release?

[glacial stratus]

sorry, misclicked

(deleted already)

[solid gust]

make @astral bay your friend, seems like they're currently missing a dlc for this challenge maybe? create friendship time?

[solid gust]

You cannot, whenever a challenge launches, you only have access to the DLC released at the moment, the only one you cannot I believe is the content creator pack as I do not have the right to give those codes

[solid gust]

no worries friend, just a reminder 🙂

[rugged swift]

Right ok let me think

[astral bay]

That's actually a nice idea but it's your choice

[rugged swift]

@slim sentinel Dm me when you get a minute

[charred timber]

to make that clear, the cw must be resolved only before I take the required lands?

[glacial stratus]

I won't SURRENDER Chak and you know it

Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm

[solid gust]

You must resolve the civil war before going after the lands required for the challenge

[solid gust]

you will get one of these challenges I swear, its only a matter of time at this point

too determined

[fickle river]

dont think that is how it works, failing again and again does not determine succes

[solid gust]

Learning from a failure is what determines success, resolve is being able to power through a failure without being discouraged

idk why we're on the philosphy tangent but ok lmao

[rugged swift]

Just be 1/1 on wins god

Skill issue

(joke)

[solar sparrow]

What do we get if we do the challenge?

[glacial stratus]

It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life.

sometimes it is that way

[rugged swift]

#hearts-of-iron-news @solar sparrow

Same prizes as what was won this time

Fastest time gets it

[solar sparrow]

oh i see

well i ain't winning that

lol

[sharp patio]

determination is a good quality, good luck my friend.

[rugged swift]

Never know

Won't know unless you try

[solid gust]

That's alright, I try to make some difficult-ish challenge and some easier ones, but I encourage you to participate and try regardless

it's good practice

[rugged swift]

Also this beats doing more Iceland runs at failing achievements 👍

[solid gust]

Niddy's current challenge is doing Iceland no infantry world conquest

gogogo

[rugged swift]

?

[solid gust]

( )

[rugged swift]

Hrrr

I can't even beat the UK as iceland

Yet

I have an idea but yet to try

[charred timber]

what does that mean? do i have to end the cw before I justify a wargoal on the US or Phillipines or what?

[solid gust]

Yes

Have to completely finish the civil war, and only once that war is done do you go after the US

[fickle river]

losing is life?

[sharp patio]

Do we need only the lands of the Spanish Empires, or can we conquer everything?

[charred timber]

ok to make that clear, those are the exact rules, and anything else you have not mentioned yet, is allowed (in the diplomatic aspect)

[rugged swift]

Not done the Spanish civil war much, isn't the carlists quite rng dependant?

[glacial stratus]

it is also random entries like the previous two challenges right?

[astral bay]

Just the Lands that the US have that used to belong to spain

[solid gust]

You only need the specified lands in the pinned comment, if you want to conquer other regions that is up to you, I do not forbid it

[solid gust]

this one is timed

[glacial stratus]

as in who does it first?

hot damn , i am prepping for an tomorrow's exam 🫠

[solid gust]

outside of bug abusing and high level cheese, pretty much, so long as you follow these rules as well
If your time is too short, I will require a step by step of what you've done
#challenge-questions message

[rugged swift]

Out of interest

Was abusing paradroppers cheese level too high?

[solid gust]

as in whoever achieves the challenge in the shortest amount of time in a run, not the first to submit

[sharp patio]

Is there a task for any specific names of the Chak alliance?

[charred timber]

what does to short mean? according to your rules, it is doable in late 1937/38

[rugged swift]

As fast as possible

[solid gust]

I would say yes, but not a hard yes

I tend to view it as a little bit cheesy and would recommend against it, but I do not forbid it

I am looking at some challenges having it restricted but for now have left it out

[rugged swift]

Wins

[rugged swift]

Ah right, I abused it for France to start my run in the Canadian one is all

Well, abused""

Shouldn't need it in this one, but I'll just play by the rules set out

[solid gust]

If you achieve it on like january 2nd 1937 or before I'm simply going to ask you how you achieved the run, I'm not going to ostracize you for being fast or anything, I just need to make sure the run is legitimate is all

[rugged swift]

If no rule written unlucky 🙃

[analog flower]

how i can do the challenge?

[rugged swift]

Win carlists victory quick, bumrush America

Gl

[glacial stratus]

preferrably have eyes and a hand

[solid gust]

hmmmmm do you want one? I have no special part this time but if you want something to do on the side I can think of something

[rugged swift]

I think you should always add a quirk ngl

[glacial stratus]

we will install you as a monarch for the Spanish crown, Chak 👑

[charred timber]

sure sure, in that case i would give a full explanation. but 2nd january 1937 would be minimum 5 months to quick to be legit 🙃

[rugged swift]

Hmm

I'm wondering how we'd be able to land in the Americas

[solid gust]

yeah basically that

Its more for time challenges if I feel like a run is way too short or if its MONTHS ahead of everyone else, I just wanna make sure no funny business is going on y'know?

[rugged swift]

Killing America in 37 is easy

[fickle river]

as Spain?

[rugged swift]

Generally

As can encircle

[solid gust]

I can try, though they'll almost never be counted for points... maybe an honourable mention category?

[rugged swift]

Could do

Music pack bonus reward lol -_'

[solid gust]

hmmmm, maybe an honourable mention coloured role

[fickle river]

how often do you fight US in 37?

[rugged swift]

Done it before, but not too often

[fickle river]

you dont even get there

[rugged swift]

Don't believe from memory they get much strength until 39

[fickle river]

maybe back in 1898 they could, in 37 spanish fleet is a joke

[rugged swift]

There is definitely a way to land

In the americas

Just don't know how yet

[fickle river]

i would believe 39, but before seems like cheesing the game

[rugged swift]

I think I have an idea of how it could work but

Not totally confident

[glacial stratus]

so basically the first 3 people who get to annex the 🇺🇸 first by in-game time

got it, will try the tomorrow evening, after when i'm done with the exam 🏇🏻

[rugged swift]

You can enter as many times as you want as long as you delete your last comment, but correct.

Fastest 3 runs to kill the usa

[glacial stratus]

Chak, does it matter which king we install to the throne , legitimate Carlist claimed one or the Bourbon one?

[solid gust]

naw, just need carlist spain, I wanna give people some leeway

[charred timber]

why king? just let manuel in charge

[glacial stratus]

does coronation happen over time or you pick one with the focus?

last time i played Spain was in 2020 lol

[charred timber]

no

you can even make Iberia first and then afterwards Kingdom of Spain

you get then Kingdom of Spain as custometic tag, which is much nicer than Iberia

ugly yellow

[glacial stratus]

Carlists were orange though, correct?

[charred timber]

carlist spain was light orange

kingdom of spain dark

[sharp patio]

I think it would be logical to put Javier of Bourbon-Parma on the throne after all. Considering that most of the Carlists supported his candidacy. But as always, the choice is yours, my friend.

[glacial stratus]

rly? i thought Alfonso was the legitimate one

guy with the stroke

but Alfonso gives -consumer goods as far as i remember

[fickle river]

Alfonso was legitimate

Javier was propably carlist, but since they werent ever really on the throne and Alfonso already was before

its quite simple

Franco himself knew Alfonso

it is just hoi4 calling every spanish monarchist carlist, because the devs are intellectually inferior to their community

[sharp patio]

I am generally amazed by the logic of the developers. They could, for fun, as in Poland, add candidates to the Spanish throne of one man named Archduke Karl Pius. Then we would have got the Habsburg Spanish Empire.

[rugged swift]

There's a lot that they could add in everywhere

but it's what they can actually fit in in realistically a 10y timeframe

[sharp patio]

Most Carlists considered Alfonso disqualified because he did not share the ideals of the Carlists (and, importantly, because Spanish law excluded from inheritance the descendants of those who committed treason against the king, as, according to the Carlists, Alfonso's male ancestors did as soon as Francisco de Paula recognized the rule of Isabella II). Many also considered his parentage illegitimate, believing that Alfonso XII's biological father was Queen Isabella's lover and not her husband.

A clipping from Wikipedia, if you consider it an authoritative source of information.

[fickle river]

of course carlists did, the problem with monarchist spain is the carlism itself

its not carlist just because devs cannot name it correctly

[glacial stratus]

what quote means losing is not a weakness, giving up may be. Carry on and seize the day.

[subtle remnant]

Little question do you have to invade every single Island of the Philippines or do you just need to take control of every state before annexing it?

[solid gust]

in this instance, yes

its annoying I know but this challenge also focuses more on the micro rather than the previous one

[slim sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/picard-remarkable-science-wow-star-trek-gif-17831177

Yeah I was gonna try this challenge, but I have no idea how to play Spain without any mods assisting me.

[blissful holly]

can anyone help me i played democratic germany than switched to communism and i want to switch back to democracy to form the european union

and i cant find the decison to become democratic again

[flint river]

Do you have a map of the lands taken as I'm not familiar with the Spanish American war

[foggy sage]

Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines

And also Guam, which was part of the Spanish Philippines

[rugged swift]

Oh so we don't have to peace out the USA

Just invade the islands and own the territory post CW? @solid gust

Hmm

[glacial stratus]

will this challenge also last for two weeks?

[glacial stratus]

don't tag him, bro, he is constantly checking here

[solid gust]

This one is for two weeks, correct.

The only reason the last one was given extra time was because I didn't want to inundate people with more pings during the anniversary week.

[solid gust]

you have to invade the islands and end the war, correct, just no peace dealing it out of a separate conflict

[rugged swift]

So can't just kill mainland and take it in a war by myself with the US?

Hmm

[solid gust]

nope, for specific land challenges you always have to take the actual lands yourself

for generalist ones (IE: take europe) peacedeals are mostly fine

but this one is not a generalist one, its a specific

[rugged swift]

Is there a way to prove this though? Or just based on winners being asked the steps

Feel ppl will just annex us

[fickle river]

i dont think there is

the whole challenge is a bit contradictive

you have to land there, but also own them

which makes no sense, since if you want to own them, you conquer your enemies, otherwise you just occupy them

[solid gust]

Yeah, there are parts of the challenges that rely on the honour system for sure, though me asking for a step by step helps some people not 'cheese' it to a degree. The point of this challenge is to land troops and take the territories required, then resolve it and own them/puppet them

[glacial stratus]

for example how the first submission prove that they invaded Phillipines and not taken them out by capping only USA?

should we basically make a screenshot for each country we invade?
( 🇨🇺 🇵🇭 🇺🇸

[solid gust]

#challenge-submissions message this submission is fine I'd think, though I would prefer if it was more zoomed in on the second one

the very first submission I would ask to provide additional screenshots

[glacial stratus]

@cold briar

[glacial stratus]

i am confused about one thing tho

lets say you capped US, and Phillipines is a puppet of US

do you have to ignore Phillipines in the peace deal and justify a war goal on them after peace deal to have infantry in their soil

Just in case that you arent able to send even 1 division to naval invade Phillipines while you are fighting the US

[solid gust]

mm if you cannot get even one division to go after them, then yes that'd be the route you have to go, you need to at least actively try to cap them with your units instead of passively (via peacedeal)

[glacial stratus]

ok so you need physical proof(screenshots) that that there are troops in all of the countries needed for challenge, got it

in submissions, what if people got the required lands but they have no proof of (lets say , having Carlist troop in 🇵🇭 )
since they can't revert back in Ironman to capture said thing to camera

or they simply annexed it via peace deal without even touching 🇵🇭 since again, its a puppet

are they disqualified or get a pass?

[solid gust]

1st part I would prefer for proof yes

2/3rd part I would have to ask the steps as always and where they landed etc, I am inclined to believe people, unless its quite obvious they just annexed it

as for disqualified or not, I'll have a discussion with my colleagues on whether or not that'd be a disqualification or not, I tend to be quite lenient but they may see otherwise

[rugged swift]

I'd say you should include that people should have a SS of the Philippines capitulating to your troops, and troop presence on the right islands (Guam etc), Cuba is irrelevant as that will be seperate

Imo for anyone to be able to prove it

But yeah honour system end of day

[solid gust]

I can add that to the list, its reasonable

[cold briar]

im sorry but are there rules to the challenges and if there are any where can i find them and ill delete my submisson.

[solid gust]

its pinned 🙂

[cold briar]

thanks

ah

ill delete the submisson i didnt follow the rules sorry.

[solid gust]

its okay!

Im happy that you tried at the very least, and there is nothing stopping you from resubmitting a run

these challenges are for people to have fun and test their skills, while also a way for me to give back to the community

[plush torrent]

welp time to try a challenge for once

even if it is pain

[cold pewter]

how about phillips ii's Wet Dreams

conquer the world

?

[cold pewter]

(as carlist spain)

[plush torrent]

i mean if you conquer the entire world as spain

you're still getting your old lands back

[cold pewter]

phillips II wanted spain conquering the world, like in this clip i will send, i hope it doesnt get me on trouble

i uh

i got lied

[rugged swift]

@ivory reef

Need proof of you taking guam/philippines

[slim sentinel]

There should be a way of screenshotting the entire map without missing parts.

[pseudo charm]

Get a bigger monitor, idk man

[slim sentinel]

It's a game issue, not a monitor issue... Not even my TV can show everything.

[astral bay]

Maybe just post multiple screenshots

[glacial stratus]

@fickle river have you had a troop in Guam/Phillipines/Cuba bro?

you came so close man, don't want you to be disqualified over nothing

you still got time, gotta have screenshots on each

[cloud wharf]

im gonna be real i think the rule is a little iffy

because some guy can just put troops in the phillipines and cuba fter capping

its terrible rule to be enforced

[fickle river]

i do not want to reload the save (if i still have it), but to clarify i think i had troops in philipines

and no troops in guam or puerto rico

because you capitulate the allies you have most of caribbean -> youcan just walk into puerto rico and leave

and because US navy isnt in pacific you just land in guam and leave

you dont waste units on tiles you have already taken

[glacial stratus]

what about the "At War" icon which you can't dismiss on top center

this rule only makes sense if you have troops in Cuba, Phillipines and Guam before annexing US soil

[fickle river]

obviously cuba is a must do (otherwise they dont capitulate) and philipines i already said i landed

[glacial stratus]

Cuba is guaranteed by Monroe Doctrine and Phillipines is a puppet of 🇺🇸 so they will be dragged into your war

[fickle river]

the war has to be resolved

[cloud wharf]

resolving all war i think is a given

[glacial stratus]

i meant having screenshot taken during war to avoid this

[fickle river]

man

who takes screenshots during war

i would forget it even if it was my sole purpose

[glacial stratus]

i was paranoid in 🇱🇾 and 🇨🇦 contests so i took a couple screenshots during key moments 😅

[fickle river]

stalin in real life

[glacial stratus]

like i remember Cordoba one needed you to release African colony first and play as them instead

[fickle river]

i can give you the whole strat. but i am not doing it again, spent too much time for one short campaign

but at the same time, everyone will copy the strat and do it faster, so feels like im giving others the win

[glacial stratus]

i have my own strat , but yeah we can share if you wanna, but i think people will abuse this if we share it here

[glacial stratus]

exactly

[fickle river]

i mean, once you have western europe, it is easy

[glacial stratus]

well Chak wants proof that we are in Guam, Phillipines and Cuba, even realistically reaching Pacific lands requires jumping through either French Indochina or British Malaya

there is also Dutch East Indies

he specifically wants to make our lives harder 😅

[fickle river]

i can give you answer to anything i did, just do not force me to play the game again, i had it all - Spanish east Indies, Spanish Malaya and Indochina too

not everything maybe, because i might not remember every step, but mostly

@glacial stratus who is the cossack on your profile picture, i know him, but cant remember

[glacial stratus]

i don't want anything from you man 😄, just a heads up in case your entry doesn't get validated over literal nothing (since you mentioned your troops weren't in Guam physically, which contest clearly requires)

it would be a real shame to see the journey you made turn into dust

[glacial stratus]

It is Homelander edited into Turkish Pasha

i love it how nobody who asked this question even recognized him

[fickle river]

now which one i recognized from the two of them

[glacial stratus]

people mostly think its young Ataturk or some sort of cossack

[fickle river]

i mean

it is very small

but it looks cossackish/turkish

you just dont realize it is homelander, because his features are not visible enough due to the size of picture

[glacial stratus]

Ottoman coat with ☪️ buttons is a dead giveaway

(you won't see in Discord since the picture is small)

[fickle river]

at least someone has original picture (other than people who use themselves)

[glacial stratus]

you should really ask Chak, just in case whether Guam is a dealbreaker for your entry or not

he lurks around here from time to time

most likely he will see this

we are subjects to his dominion here 💂

[fickle river]

he will propably read this whole discussion and then decide to mention something barely related to the topic

im not pinging him, i dont like it and i do not want to do that to others

[solid gust]

I only ask at the day of choosing winners about the strat, not before. Its not fair to give other people your strat you are correct, hence why I dont ask anything until an hour or so before drawing a winner.

That being said, Guam is okay since it is a singular island to not have troops in it, as for puerto rico I forget how many tiles it is, but seeing as you conquered more of the mainland I can let it slide. The main factor is really the Phillippines and Cuba, since the other two are simply small islands

whereas the phillippines is a more involved process

and cuba drags the US into the war

[worldly surge]

Well I can’t do this challenge unfortunately, don’t have la resistance

[glacial stratus]

already tired of the Spanish. Liberia challenge when? 🇱🇷

[fickle river]

after Liberia dlc

as Liberia take all the US southern states - afro-americans strike back challenge

[glacial stratus]

• you have to be a democracy-only 😈

https://tenor.com/view/gendo-noah-hoi4-heart-of-iron-video-game-gif-17414558

[fickle river]

no, actually be fascist, so you can counter enslave

[worldly surge]

Democracies can enslave. Remember the USA before the civil war

[north garden]

hey what if I played as Nationalist Spain and took over the United States then got defeated in civil war by AI playing Carlist Spaiin

It's not valid, is it?

[fickle river]

what exactly are you on?

it could count, but i dont think it would, seems too much like an exploit

[solid gust]

You have to resolve the spanish civil as the Carlists before declaring on any of the required land

[north garden]

I went to the wrong focus tree and accidentally got the one above xD

[solid gust]

oof

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[north garden]

Pain i hate S(pain)

[solid gust]

unlucky, unfortunately that run cannot count, as you need to resolve the civil war before going after the required lands. My condolences to your time spent. Great effort though

[limber crystal]

is this valid?

[north garden]

hey Chak this challenge still requires rule state must be owned ?

[glacial stratus]

yes, you gotta have troops in 🇨🇺 and 🇵🇭 as proof before finishing the war

then have them all

[glacial stratus]

then you gotta update the rules man:

You have to be Kingdom of Spain via focus tree and coronate a king first then

[north garden]

hey Chak

Is this enough proof that it is valid for the Philippines and Guam ?

[north garden]

and this one for Cuba because I forgot to take a photo before Cuba has captured

[solid gust]

yes those are fine

[solid gust]

Isn't the kingdom of spain a formable? There's no need to add that to the list, you simply need to be carlist after the civil war is over

[glacial stratus]

oh that's so cool, otherwise coronating a king would be additional waste of time

i like the flag Carlist Spain has

i dislike the weird logo on Kingdom of Spain one

but it still means you cant choose the red beret king and the Jefe guy stays instead

[fickle river]

why blur the date xd

[north garden]

To avoid putting pressure on other participants 😛

[glacial stratus]

it cant be done sooner than '37 anyways

[north garden]

it's '40 xD I can't play that well

[glacial stratus]

i was talking theoretically, have yet to try this

only way i can think of finishing the SCW in 1936 is to finish either with Republicans or Nationalists(Franco)

Anarchists/Carlists/Falange/POUM take way longer time to form in the first place, it will be 1937 no matter what you do

[north garden]

I remember someone saying he could be done by the middle of '37

that insane

[glacial stratus]

likely to better RNG than skill

unplanned offensives are a thing regardless

[glad vector]

I must say, this challenge was tougher than I expected. The USA is no longer a pushover.

[rugged swift]

@lucid cliff

Might wanna delete that lol

[north garden]

@glacial stratus Luan make me confuse xD is it valid?

Kaiserreich mod

opps War Redux ww1

[glacial stratus]

1. They did not capture any of the required states for the challenge
   2)They haven't even enabled Ironman mode on

[glacial stratus]

not Kaiserreich, its vanilla with Historical turned off

and in Portuguese )

[rugged swift]

Also playing the wrong country...

[glacial stratus]

Nein, that's the flag for the Anarcho-Monarchist Spain, secret focus tree 🤫

[manic pawn]

is there a command so i instantly get a communist country ?

[lucid cliff]

set_ruling party c

[north garden]

when challenge end ?

[glacial stratus]

27th of May

[glacial stratus]

Chak, i summon you

i know you are here, inside the walls

TOLD YA I WOULDN'T SURRENDER!!!

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-iron-man-rdj-robert-downey-jr-gif-14889389

[fickle river]

quite fast

although the borders could be better

[glacial stratus]

i had basically no manpower, so i had to puppet a few states just so they could shut up with their rebellions

i agree, i wanted clean enough borders, annexed all by the 🇪🇸

but since it is a time-based challenge and not luck-based one, i had to drop nice borders for the sake of time-saving

[north garden]

gg nice run @glacial stratus

[glad vector]

impressive!

[glad vector]

with some challenges, you see engagement until the very end because people will try to improve their time

in this one: I had enough trouble with my one attempt - not doing that again! 😉

[solid gust]

yup, I made this one a little harder on purpose since some people have asked for more difficult ones, but its great to see the competition until the end on many of them

next one should be moreso chill :)....or will it

[glad vector]

yeah well when you do that, people like me just find crazy ways to do them 😉

[glacial stratus]

is the next challenge also time-based or luck based?

[solid gust]

No reveals

🤫

[north garden]

hey Chak the challenge ends on June 26 11:00 EST (UTC -5) right ?

[solid gust]

it should end around that time on the 27th, it may be 10 EST or after, I won't start going through entries until the day of to give everyone the chance to attempt it

[glacial stratus]

1 hr left then

[solid gust]

but what if i extend it

just bc you pinged me

[north garden]

Maybe you should consider the worst case scenario 💀

[glacial stratus]

lol didn't mean to ping

[solid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-friendstv-friends-tv-tv-friends-tvfriends-gif-4134437870747039538

[glacial stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/ping-discord-gif-26454627

[north garden]

So it's over in 1 hour, I thought it was 2 hours
*edited I mixed up the EST and ET regions xD

[solid gust]

I always end it between 10 and 11, i never say when between those times

its rare that I do it afterwards but that is usually when I've been caught up doing smth else

[glacial stratus]

nice last second entry

[solid gust]

bro out here doing turkish homelander like that

ohno

(there will be a nice surprise in the announcement either way)

now I will be typing up rules of the next challenge so no more replies from me here until next challenge

[solid gust]

United We Stand Rules

-Must begin & end the game as Poland, forming the Polish Peasant Union focused on Communism
-Ironman must be enabled, on the latest patch which currently is 1.14.7 Checksum f03b (must be achievement compatible but Graphical mods are allowed)
-All land must be taken via conquering/puppeting, no peacedeals as always, but that only counts for the required lands, which in this case is the entirety of the Balkans, everything else is fair game

The required lands, starting in the 1936 scenario, are Hungary, Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria and Austria's starting borders.
-You may only have one Puppet out of the required lands, so choose wisely
-There is no time requirement for this one, this is a chill challenge for everyone to relax with
-If you do not have the required DLC for the Polish Peasant Union, you may simply play as Communist Poland (this allows everyone to play, and since there is no time requirement, everyone has a chance to win 🙂 )
-Screenshot requirements are to be a tiny bit zoomed in for at least one screenshot to see the map a bit better and one zoomed out one to show the entirety of the balkans covered. (I may have good eye sight but some screenshots have been a tiny bit too tiny for me to read properly, so I'm gonna start asking for some more clear ones please and thank you )
-Have fun, Mandatory. If you aren't having fun someone's losing their rations

[tiny folio]

as poland, go communist and beat france. got it

[glacial stratus]

Chak , we are out of this challenge right? (until the next one after 2 weeks)

[cyan oar]

which DLC is it for Polish Peasant Union? No Step Back or what?

[tiny folio]

no step back

[glacial stratus]

No Step Back

[solid gust]

You cannot win this one, correct

however, make sure you read the announcement properly 😉

[glacial stratus]

can we DM real quick?

[solid gust]

depends on what you want to dm about, if its related to the challenges themselves/winnings, better to make a ticket

[tiny folio]

honestly, much better than conquering america as spain. polands pretty strong

[glacial stratus]

i mean i saw what you did there haha 😇 appreciate it

but to contact about reward, where do i sign up for the ticket?

[solid gust]

yeah, I made the challenge there a bit more difficult since some people have been asking for a more difficult challenge, but this one is more lax

[north garden]

dm @brittle mortar sorry for ping bot

[solid gust]

the bot doesnt mind lmao, but yes you dm the PDXBot

[tiny folio]

not to mention, the main opponent is france

blitz yugoslavia fast enough, it may not even matter

[solid gust]

also Chiro I see your ticket as well,, just mention which dlc you want in it and I will get to it by tomorrow, I have a busy day today

but I am not ignoring it 🙂

[glacial stratus]

oh man i wish we had chance to keep our reward for the future dlc, but its against the rules ( am i being greedy now? 😈 )

and as far as i can remember we are not allowed to get the latest Soviet Union focus tree icons pack

[glacial stratus]

thx

[solid gust]

correct, you cannot 'save' it for the future, nor can you get can the Content creator pack as sales of it go to the modders who helped create it, which would be unfair for their efforts

[tender hatch]

I was wondering how challenge winners in general get picked, is it speed or am I missing something

[solid gust]

If I define a requirement, like the pervious challenge was timed, then that is how one wins.

For challenges like this, where it is relaxed and I want everyone to have a chance to win, I confirm whether or not a challenge is valid and I use a random number generator to select winners

that way its unbiased and everyone has an equal chance of winning

[burnt bridge]

Btw do you need to keep all of poland for it to count? Or can you give up danzig to make it slightly easier?

[solid gust]

hmm I can concede danzig, this one is a relaxed one anyways

[golden tinsel]

if relaxed means take Austria before Germany can anschluss it then sure. its relaxed game 😄

[spark ember]

Fight germany in early game
Hmm that will be tough but still possible

[solid gust]

relaxed just means there is no time limit/requirement, meaning everyone can play at their own pace

[glacial stratus]

• so the challenge submissions will be picked randomly after 2 weeks

have fun, everyone 🎉

also three cheers for my fellow winners @fickle river @north garden ✊

[north garden]

Cheers to you, my fella!

[karmic tapir]

What are the setting requirements for challenges?

[north garden]

ironman mode enable

[karmic tapir]

Anything for difficulty?

[north garden]

just normal difficulty

keep in mind

[solid gust]

anything that allows for achievements basically

if you want it to be harder go for it

[karmic tapir]

Do I have to play historical?

[solid gust]

nope, unless specified that it needs to be on hist then ur allowed whatever combo of settings as long as it remains ironman and achievement compatible

[karmic tapir]

Okay

[fickle river]

ironically enough, this challenge is selected randomly instead of time, while the tryhards cant win anyway (just won)

i guess anyone participating has quite decent chance of winning then

may luck be with you in 2 weeks time

[opaque meadow]

i have a question regarding the formable, should i ask here, or do i have to make a ticket, and if i have to make a ticket where do i do that

[fickle river]

what are you talking about?

you can ask basically anything here

it is made for challenge questions, if it is not challenge related, then you ask in wrong channel

if it is, go on

you dont have to make any tickets

if what you meant was the polish peasants union, i think it resembles simply the communist path

[rugged swift]

Hmm

Has to be something fun I can do with this

[opaque meadow]

right so i dont have the dlc

so do i js go the communist path in the focus tree

or do i have to wait till the peasant rebellion

[solid gust]

in the pinned messages in this channel i outlined the challenge rules/info

if you do not have the DLC then you simply play as communist Poland, correct

[glad vector]

#challenge-submissions message

I did polish peasants and then polish communism, not the comintern one. Took out Soviets first (thats why I ceded Danzig). Then took out Japan and the Axis. Germany managed to Sea lion the Brits out, and I then naval invaded the british isles so I could take them for myself 🙂

[wind vector]

question do i have to play on historical focuses?

[glad vector]

no

[glacial stratus]

wish you killed off the Allies too 🙂

[hot flume]

anyone got like a good idea to push romania?? it takes me like a year and a half to get the supplyhub tht lets me actually push

[glad vector]

nah, did you see what year I ended up? Also, I did puppet Britain

[karmic tapir]

is it a dlc state? the polish peasant union?

[solid gust]

I believe its apart of NSB?

If you don't have the DLC though you simply just need to go communist

[karmic tapir]

oh okay

how do i go communist?

[solid gust]

that I can't tell ya, have to figure it out yourself, or ask someone else here 😉

[karmic tapir]

i have a feeling its the go red focus lol

[karmic tapir]

am i allowed to start at 1939?

[solid gust]

1936 for this one

[golden tinsel]

k.. got meself some peasant kurwas.. unfortunately bloody romanians made pact or rome... 😄 quess ill restart

[glad vector]

yeah I considered the Romanians just too strong for early conquest

[hot flume]

nah u can early conquest its js not that early cuz the war lasts ages

actually tbf it only takes a couple months after u take tht first supply hub but taking tht first hub takes ages

[swift warren]

Use fallback lines near to a supply hub in you country, and let them take some land before you strike back

[hot flume]

lowkey kinda smart 😭 my strat was to build a supply hub near the border and then spend 100k men taking tht supply hub on the border (even if it killed like 300k romanians t wasnt the most effective)

[swift warren]

Always fall back, and then encircle them. If that isn't enough, then repeat until it's enough 😂

[karmic tapir]

ive been trying to get powerful allies

it hasnt been working

[astral bay]

Don't press that link lol

[cloud wharf]

i did and got stalker 2 for free fr

[opaque meadow]

???

[jolly abyss]

Do I have to only control required countries or annex them in peace conference

Cuz idk if I want to fight with whole world

[jolly abyss]

@solid gust

[north garden]

dont ping him, you need to annex them in peace conference

[jolly abyss]

Bro

I have the most incompetent italy in history

but alr

[solid gust]

As chiro said it needs to be annexed/fully conquered in this one.

Though you can have one singular puppet.

Also I don't work on the weekends and am currently out of the house, so I can't reply to pings very fast or at all so I appreciate it if we don't ping me 🙂

[jolly abyss]

Alr no problem

And thx for help to all

[outer prism]

I got a few questions. 1. So i just need to own and control the balkans? So i technically wouldnt need to kill ussr nor germany for this challenge? Due to the balkans being only these nations

And 2. Im guessing all challenges are done on historical because it would be too easy. And finally whats your guys favorite icecream flavor

[lapis rivet]

how long does the challenge last for?

[jolly abyss]

No time

So basically as long as you want

[jolly abyss]

Yes

[jolly abyss]

Depends

[outer prism]

Because if it was unhistorical you could do this in like 38-39 with rng

Just wait till France drops guarantee of yugo

[jolly abyss]

It will depends about other ai

Cuz romania can go communist and join comintern or smth

Or germany can go democratic and invite everyone

[outer prism]

Ideally Romania goes Balkan dominance

And takes out bulgaria

Its just good rng

[outer prism]

That happens in like The 40s'

[solid gust]

Challenge runs for two weeks, but if you mean time requirement there is none, just have to do it in ironman

[solid gust]

This one, yes you only need the balkans. to be specific you need everything listed in this comment: #challenge-questions message

You are not required to kill off Germany or the USSR.

And no it does not need to be done on Historical unless mentioned

[outer prism]

got it 👍 Thanks for the clarification, but you forgot to answer my final question 😡

[outer prism]

😡

[solid gust]

Favourite Ice cream, unfortunately I am a Sorbet enjoyer, I think my favourite is the 3 kind in one specifically , but I do like French Vanilla Ice cream

this one

[outer prism]

yeah sorbet is good

[limber crystal]

Does the war need to be resolved or is it ok to end the game when all land is conquered but still at war?

[limber crystal]

Alr so no end to the war required

[north garden]

must required

[north garden]

if you annex a country through a peace conference then it is valid.

But before the peace conference takes place, you must personally defeat that country. Prove that your troops were present in that country before the peace conference took place.

[limber crystal]

Ok

[craggy jacinth]

Do we have to annex the countries or we can puppet them?

[limber crystal]

One puppet in the balkans is allowed

[craggy jacinth]

Oh nvm found the rules

Btw, can I puppet one of the required nations but other non-required ones as well? Like puppeting Bulgaria, Russia and Germany

[limber crystal]

Yea the rule is only for the required lands

[craggy jacinth]

Thx

[craggy jacinth]

how are challenge winners decided? lucky draw?

[solid gust]

some challenges are timed, others like this one I simply confirm if they are valid or not, and number then, then use a random number generator to choose a winner, that way it is fair for everyone involved

[lucid cliff]

1957 is wild ☠️

[bright kettle]

connect to alaska

[bright kettle]

whys the year blocked out?

[solid gust]

that was for the challenge before the current one, it was a timed challenge so they didnt wanna put their current time out so they had a better chance at winning

[glacial stratus]

i guess the challenge seems hard for people, since there aren't many entries

[glacial stratus]

i hope the next challenge is about formables

i like doing any of them alot, hope there will be Turan or Transcaucasia ones in the future

No Step Back formables are especially fun to do ⚠️

[solid gust]

some challenges don't appeal to everyone, so they don't participate, though I would prefer they did I would never force people to

point of the challenges is to have fun or to give a hard time to work through (which some find fun)

[jolly abyss]

How winners will be chosen ?

By date of completing challange or by random chose

[solid gust]

#challenge-questions message

[jolly abyss]

Oh alr

Thx then

[solid gust]

I have spent too much time making the next challenge asset its cringe as heck but I had to

[jolly abyss]

🗿

[solid gust]

OH YEAHHH!! KHANATE MAN!! Rules;

-Must start as Mongolia and complete the challenge as INDEPENDENT Mongolia
-1936 Start, this is a timed challenge.
-Ironman must be enabled, on the latest patch which currently is 1.14.7 Checksum f03b (must be achievement compatible but Graphical mods are allowed)
-All required land must be taken yourself, not through peacedeals in other wars. Land outside of this is exempt from the rule (IE taking parts of Russia/Europe/japan etc)
-The required lands are as follows: All land owned by Sinkiang, Xibei San Ma, Shanxi, Mengkukuo, China, Communist China, Tibet, Yunnan and the Guangxi Clique in the 1936 starting borders. No puppets out of these areas allowed.
-Bonus points (not really) if you puppet Tannu Tuva and keep them alive for the whole run

-Screenshot proof must include: Drop down menu showing the game is in ironman and achievement compatible, not just Ironman.
-Screenshot must show the entirety of the required lands, Global screenshot unnecessary.
-Do not take pictures with a phone, use Windows' snipping tool or F12 in game if you use the Steam Overlay.

-Restrictions this game; No Paratroopers, no double doctrine bug abusing, and ofc no heavy cheesing.
-The winning submission may be asked to explain, step by step, how they accomplished the challenge

[glacial stratus]

oh man, i wish i could play this as Tannu Tuva

[north garden]

GG nice effort for y'all

[glacial stratus]

with Tannu Tuva, its much more harder to do than with Mongolia anyways, could i do this with Tuva instead of Mongolia, Chak? 🥺

[lucid cliff]

Mongol empire formable when?

[solid gust]

If you want to win, no it has to be Mongolia

If you don't want to win, then go for it

[glacial stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-the-deep-oh-the-misery-gif-26595596

ok

[pale river]

does it have to be historical?

[tired ruin]

new challenge seems rad, do i need to be not in a faction?

[solid gust]

unless stated, no.

I dont usually impose that rule

[pale river]

do we have to own manchukua and mengukuo as well?

[solid gust]

no but you can do it without one

[tired ruin]

neat neat

[solid gust]

is pinned in this channel the extra requirements

[north garden]

This challenge is choose the fastest run, right?

[glacial stratus]

is this the fastest run or random pick ?

[jolly abyss]

Wait Chack what should my message to bot should be ?

Cuz I just send what dlc I would like to get but I forgor to give steam link

💀

[solid gust]

we give codes its fine

specifically steam keys

[jolly abyss]

Oh alr

[solid gust]

just have to wait like 20-ish minutes because I have to get them

[jolly abyss]

Okay np

[solid gust]

correct

[glacial stratus]

congrats, bij bolszewika ✊

[jolly abyss]

Thx

✊

[lethal prawn]

1. so what do you mean by the required land cannot be taken through peacedeals in other wars?
2. Can we make puppets out of china and then annex them?

[jolly abyss]

At least this challange will be easier than tanu tuvian achievements

[glacial stratus]

i liked that achievement, love playing as extremely underpowered nations

but then again, i like pain

[solid gust]

All the lands that are required and listed in the pinned comment must be conquered by you, and not by taking them from a peacedeal from a war they were dragged into

you cannot make puppets out of the nations listed, even if you plan to annex them afterwards

[jolly abyss]

Just like me😭 ...

In hoi4 ofc

That's why I once did world conquest as vichy france

[glacial stratus]

Formables are my neuron activation 🦍

[tranquil ember]

do i have to stay communist

[solid gust]

You only have to stay independent

[rugged swift]

So who's doing this one democratic

[rugged swift]

Do we have to take Manchuria + peace out Japan? And take both of the main China's, or JUST warlords (guanxi Yunnan etc)

[solid gust]

Manchuria is not required as per the pinned message, but if Japan takes the land required you need to take it from them

[crimson girder]

do we need to do historical ai?

[solid gust]

nope

[crimson girder]

and im assuiming regular difficulty too?

[solid gust]

regular and above

[raven nest]

Wait so peace with japan is not required?

[solid gust]

needs to be achievement compatible is all

[solid gust]

you need the land required by the challenge, any wars outside of that are not counted

if you have a war with japan for lands required then you need to resolve it, outside of that any wars are fine to be still active

[raven nest]

Can i win if i won 3rd place in the last challenge?

Or i have cooldown

[solid gust]

if you win a challenge, you are locked out of winning the very next one, so this one you cannot win, the challenge after this you are allowed to win again

[raven nest]

Oh okay

[karmic tapir]

What counts as the Chinese warlords?

[solid gust]

#challenge-questions message

[golden tinsel]

so justify->dow warlord and let soviets clean meanies out? 🤔

[glacial stratus]

Soviets will 100% take the warlord territory.

You have to conquer and annex all of China + Warlords by yourself

[karmic tapir]

You can get big daddy Soviet union to help defend though, just make sure your the one pressing the frontline more

[golden tinsel]

just took xibei san ma, where soviets did most of the fightning.

[neat compass]

I only need to capture Chinese clicks (China) or can I post a screenshot with a completely destroyed world?

[craggy jacinth]

Hello! I didn't have a challenge question, I just wanted to ask of my previous challenge entry was valid and counted in the draw so I am sure that I will not be doing anything wrong on this one

[solid gust]

I counted it for the previous challenge, but in the future do not simply take pictures of your screen, it is very difficult for me to discern if it was valid or not

try to take a screenshot

[crimson girder]

How long will the challenge be up for?

[solid gust]

challenges run for 2 weeks, at the end is when I choose a winner

sometimes I will delay the challenge swap by a week but I will mention that in the submissions channel if that is the case

so bank on 2 weeks, I rarely ever extend/take a break in between challenges

[tiny folio]

silver lining for this one, you start communist so easy manpower

[crimson girder]

i dont have the dlc that gives you that

[crystal wren]

yeah

[crystal wren]

What does "not through peacedeals in other wars" mean?

[solid gust]

It means no taking lands from joining a war the nation is in and fighting elsewhere then taking their lands in the peacedeals afterwards

you need to fight on the territory required by the challenge and take it yourself

say china is fighting france for some reason and its taken a bunch of land underneath where malaysia/siam is, and you conquer that instead of china, giving you warscore, you cannot just take the lands required by the challenge in the peacedeal afterwards

[crystal wren]

oh ok

i understand

is it fine if the nation invades my territory and I have to defend?

[solid gust]

ofc

its more so that people dont cheese the challenge and actually do it instead

cheese is fine but cheesing it entirely kinda defeats the purpose yk?

[crystal wren]

yeah

i got it

thanks!

[crystal wren]

they wont

you just have to deal at least some damage and take territory for occupation

[crystal wren]

independent mongolia = not mengkukuo right

[fair skiff]

that would be the independent mongolia

[crystal wren]

ok

[glacial stratus]

in a battle with United Front, the Soviets will take lands since your manpower isnt enough to deal with the big China alone

if you pick Warlords one by one, that might be possible

[crystal wren]

well if you fight cuf yea

[glacial stratus]

pre-No Step Back Soviets never cared to take off land in all of Chinas (that was a one viable way of doing "Battlecry" achievement as Sinkiang)

but now they can puppet a few for themselves, then again Soviet AI has limitless manpower so they will rush their troops and of course, they will get attritioned in the desert, thus getting themselves killed and upping way more War Scores

[crystal wren]

if you fight only one warlord at a time

you can take everything pretty much

[glacial stratus]

having Soviets is a gamble, that will cost you your game

[glacial stratus]

yeah, that's what i am also saying

[crystal wren]

maybe

[glacial stratus]

but thats almost not possible in Historical

[crystal wren]

yeah

but it doesnt have to be hist?

[glacial stratus]

nope, you can do this one on Ahistorical

[crystal wren]

yeah

that was what i thought

[glacial stratus]

your RNG has to be lucky, to either have Nationalist China ignore the warlords or annex them themselves

its in your best interests to not let AI form United Front

[crystal wren]

Yep

90% time they don't in ahist

[glacial stratus]

i have given away too much hints for other contest submitters

i'll just shut up 🙂‍↕️

[crystal wren]

Same lol

[craggy jacinth]

can i do the challenge on bolivar 1.14.5 because im encountering some problems on updating to 1.14.7? ik its in the requirements but i think i cant do it otherwise

[cloud wharf]

Was bout to say this challenge is prob easier

Without waking the tiger

But completely forgot its in base game now😂

[solid gust]

You cannot no, that would not be an even playing field. I am sorry you're encountering some issues

[crystal wren]

lol

[karmic tapir]

How can I up my population really quickly?

I'm having alot of trouble with fielding more than 6 divisions and I'm stumped

[crude pasture]

That's the main issue with mongolia

you could take ideological loyalty, but it's not that fast

you could go down the fascist path and get the recruitable pop bonus, but you still basically don't have core pop anyway

or you can go and use unequipped but fast divisions

[jolly abyss]

Bro

Wtf is this

[solid gust]

anime waifu portraits

[jolly abyss]

Genghis Khan ❌
Genshin Khan ✅

[crimson girder]

Do i have to leave the cominterm to do the challenge?

[solid gust]

you have to be independant, faction is up to you

[crimson girder]

I also cant be at war when i take china?

[solid gust]

you need all wars for land requirements to be finished

so any war for the land listed in the pinned comment must be resolved

[crimson girder]

Ok

Thanks

[crystal wren]

can you puppet the lands and then annex them after?

[solid gust]

#challenge-questions message

[crystal wren]

ohhhh

😦

garrisoning go brrr

[last dawn]

this cant be as bad as when i tried cuba world conquest

[glacial stratus]

this should be illegal, bro

[glacial stratus]

well, my sanity is in shambles yet again

but the glory of the Khanate is eternal

[crystal wren]

Nice

[crude pasture]

I just can't manage to beat china : (

[crystal wren]

Unfortunate

[north garden]

Impressive run

[glacial stratus]

what do you think, Chak?

[raven nest]

Did you do faction cap? Or you manually capped every warlord

[glacial stratus]

answered in your inbox 🙂

[raven nest]

thx bro

[solid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/well-done-jeremiah-johnson-good-gif-25626389

[solar cove]

is nonhist allowed?

[solid gust]

unless otherwise stated yes

[glacial stratus]

for me it was impossible to pull this off on Historical, given the time limit

believe me, i tried

[solar cove]

yeah... i also tried

but then china pulled out infinitely many divisions and encircled everything

while japan not doing anything

[cloud wharf]

U want to roll demo japan

[grave stone]

is there a timer?

do you haveto do it early or whenever

[waxen violet]

Yeah

Do it faster than the last guy

[bitter thistle]

Communist japan works fine too I think

[crystal wren]

do you need to own the lands or do you just need to control it

[solid gust]

own, have to resolve the wars for the lands required

if there is another war still going on for other lands then you have to screenshot that one too to show its not for lands needed by the challegne

[crystal wren]

ok

thanks

[crystal wren]

is this challenge judged purely on time?

[crystal wren]

...cuz i got a good run

but it took time

[cloud wharf]

Purely on time

[crystal wren]

ok

[static ivy]

i totally sucked hehe tibet was the bane of my mongol's existence

[bitter thistle]

how did bro do this in 39

[glacial stratus]

i blame the Russian/Soviet Imperialism and sadomasochism

[crystal wren]

yeah

they are pretty strong

[north garden]

next challenge, as Ukraine retake all core states and invade entire europe plz xD

[glacial stratus]

you are not participating in this one?

coz if u win, you won't get to play the challenge you suggested haha

[charred timber]

you submission is the is for days something i still dont get

like ai is obivous, but how have you made combat? how can you have guns to defeat china?

[glacial stratus]

well that's an easy question, international markets

comes with Arms Against Tyranny DLC

how i beat China is another story

[charred timber]

must have been hell

[glacial stratus]

i had more trouble with Tibet than the 🇹🇼 to be honest

[glacial stratus]

otherwise yeah, if you value your sanity, i totally don't recommend this (considering 🇲🇳 has no extra cores whatsoever, not even Mengkukuo which is basically Inner Mongolia)

Chak should pay for therapy

[charred timber]

yeah they have decent infantry divisions

[charred timber]

haha yeah

im too deep in it to return back

[glacial stratus]

i am surprised you didn't ask any 🇻🇳 Vietnam related challenges

[charred timber]

cause baby tonight america steals our rice again, but i fight, grab a chop stick and put up their ass

vietnam best

[north garden]

i give up, scraping the barrel won't help anything
I still don't know how you can defeat Japan and China United Front

[north garden]

35 hours is enough for me, I should stop and wait for the next challenge

[glacial stratus]

at least you are free man, you will have fun in this next challenge, while i (most likely) will suffer from the success

[glacial stratus]

(for 2 weeks)

[crude pasture]

just one more try man

[north garden]

Thanks bro, I appreciate that

xD

[crude pasture]

wow

[empty shell]

I honestly do think with the japan rework that's inevitable they should have a reform the golden horde option for Mongolia

Manchuria has Qing dynasty

And you don't have many pacific nations bar the warlords for new trees

Indochina Japan Siam Mongolia and maybe the british puppets

[glacial stratus]

that's so wholesome man, almost inspired me enough to do a 🇲🇳 part II playthru again

almost

[glacial stratus]

i absolutely agree, always excited for the new formables to come out

never in a million years i expected either Turan or Transcaucasia to be realized in game

which leaves the tiniest bit of hope for actual focus trees for 🇦🇿 🇦🇲 🇬🇪 Caucasus

[stark fiber]

Yeah, i gave up aswell.

Too hard for me.

[stark fiber]

But i enjoyed the challenge notheless. It is always nice to play with a goal in mind.

[cloud wharf]

u need to roll a japan that civil wars, and quickly snipe as many border nation a possible

[north garden]

ok I will try to keep the challenge from being extended for another week

[north garden]

@west cypress Sorry for the ping, but something has gone wrong

your QingDao

[west cypress]

Oh, nevermind, this was my first challange i expect that something will go wrong.

[north garden]

Don't worry, Chak won't be too strict for this one

[cloud wharf]

Its qingdao and dalian

But i never noticed lol

[glacial stratus]

its so funny tho , Soviet Union (🇷🇺) finally claimed Port Arthur after all these years

[solid gust]

this challenge is indeed a bit harder than most, I am proud of everyone's effort so far

[glacial stratus]

you still got time bro, i am sure you can do better than 1946 🙂

[signal cairn]

whats a good starting country to get the hang of things?

[craggy jacinth]

Dont ask this here, but probably germany or italy in my opinion, even though italy as a starter can be hard due to ethiopia war

In my first games I actually played as germany, and because germany does both air, tanks, army and includes so much stuff u can learn most of the game mechanics

About the navy, ignore it, noone has understood it and noone ever will

[frosty shoal]

navy is easy

but ive grinded japan so much so thats prob bc why

[craggy jacinth]

Teach me

How many hours u have on japan?

[frosty shoal]

Idk but 150-300

About

[frosty shoal]

Dude its so simple I think its easier than the new tank mechanization thing

[raven nest]

UK or USA cuz u dont have to worry about enemy borders

[frosty shoal]

Nope Germany best

after you handle it and know stuff about the game you can try other countries like UK, Japan, USA or Soviet Union

[raven nest]

yeah but new players dont know how to do anything so they might lose to poland or france. But as a UK u dont have to worry about anything u can just learn game mechanics and chill cuz no one will capitulate you

so thats why UK or USA better for newbies

[frosty shoal]

You learn by doing wars

you wont learn anything if u just over and over again play UK and sit at your islands

[glacial stratus]

giving first time player to play as Germany is a horrible idea

my first game ever was with Canada, i suggest playing a minor nation and then joining a big faction and helping out majors , depending on which ideology you want to go with

Democracies that are not targets of German onslaught are safe and chill start for newbies,

like with Canada for example, you can build up industry, resources and army and help out your big brothers while not being under constant threat of getting attacked

[glacial stratus]

after getting the gist of combat and tactics, then you may proceed to much bigger countries and who knows, maybe you'll do your first world conquest 🙂

[frosty shoal]

bruh watch a tutorial

and play as germany

you learn the game by doing wars and trying to attack small nations

you could turn guarantees off from first games and just attack small nations and try learn it

thats how I learned

[ornate flax]

Does anyone want to play a strategy game, please chat with me privately and let's play together

[last dawn]

i died to austria my first ever game and now i have 1400 hours in the game, its a learning experience

[wraith sand]

Anyone else have this happen where you started the game and it instantly said, "Genghis Khan returns", and then all the chinese nations and japan surrendered all their lands?

[charred timber]

i think we have a first place

[crude pasture]

Impressive run if you ask me

[sacred flower]

holy I wish I was this good at the game of the name 'hearts of iron four'

[glacial stratus]

great channel you got man, i took notes from your [1 King , 2 Crowns] video to win Spanish Civil War as early as possible for one of the previous challenges as Carlist 🇪🇸

[lucid cliff]

😭 what the hell

[wraith sand]

I joke, I joke

[lucid cliff]

err

wdym

that's not real?

[glad vector]

Januari 1936 start date

[charred timber]

It is

They added a secret event for mongolia

If both nationalist china and japan decide to go communist, Ungern-Sternberg returns after hiding in a mongolian village

He has the legitimate heir of Genghis modifier which lets him monarchist uprisings in all chinas ignite and if the uprisers win, Ungern-Sternberg aka Genghis the second can annex them for free

[glacial stratus]

Prince De from Mengkukuo makes more sense than Ungern

no need for Kaiserreich schizo

[charred timber]

Dude, why should you naval bomb, if you have no coastline?

Complain by pdx for adding this easter egg

Not to me

[glacial stratus]

Why Hungary has Admiral as Regent but no access to sea? 🤔

[charred timber]

Idk man

Both nations mongos

[glacial stratus]

or why 🇭🇺 has regent but no king

[charred timber]

The couldnt decide who should be new king

[glacial stratus]

indecisiveness = no king

[charred timber]

Impressive you got the secret event. Odds are 1 to 10.000

Which is btw more likely then getting all cores from french union

[lucid cliff]

ah so ti's rng

[charred timber]

Yes

[lucid cliff]

too much rng

[charred timber]

Yeah probably. Its so hard to farm a save where both japan and china go commie

Luckily this is scummable

So if you get such save, you can reload the entire time, in case the even doesnt fire

[glacial stratus]

sometimes its already predetermined by AI when you already click start game though, so it is dubious at times

[charred timber]

this secret mongolia event is scummable tho

[charred timber]

but @glacial stratus with all due of respect but after this challenge ends and you are the winner, could you pls explain how you did it in 1939. it looks very unlegit and i just want to understand how you did it. I asked several pros and speedrunners and none of them has an idea, how 1939 is possible without breaking the challenge rules

[north garden]

Don't worry, the top 1 person always has to explain publicly

[charred timber]

oh thats a good rule

[ornate flax]

Who wants to play strategy games with me, create our team, play games together, chat privately, make friends?

[crude pasture]

depends on what counts as heavy cheesing I guess

[north garden]

never give up

[charred timber]

how dafaq

[north garden]

wat

[charred timber]

?

omfg, now i get it

how much rng do you want? you guys just yes

[north garden]

Chak the challenge ends tomorrow, right?

[solid gust]

correct

[drowsy tangle]

this is fine

[glacial stratus]

you went the exact same route that i did haha

already can see it with the People's Republic 😉

kudos to you bro, i couldn't do it sooner than of 20th March, 1939, impossible for me

maybe if i did a retry i would pass it, but i will never touch Mongolia again until there's rework on it 🤣

[north garden]

Not really cause idk what is your route xD

[glacial stratus]

can we discuss on private?

[north garden]

Ok DM me 👌

[glacial stratus]

now you understand it, right? 😄

[charred timber]

hopefully

[glacial stratus]

i was jealous of Mengkukuo's leader trait so much

[charred timber]

that you get that before 1940 is rng hell

[glacial stratus]

i am on holidays right now, tomorrow when the time comes, i will lay out the strat here

tl;dr is basically i was blessed with the outcome i wanted, after unholy amount of retries

[solid gust]

Alright, @north garden , I'm gonna need that explanation now. How in the heck did you do it in '38

[north garden]

ok

You need Japan Communist; Yunnan oppose China; Shanxi, Xinjiang and Guangxi became puppets of China (in civil war).

With non-hist, the rate I calculated is 1.5% for each roll, as you can see in the photo I sent before, I rolled it 150 time.

Some simple calculations are ~90% success with 150 rolls.

After that you play as Mongolia, justify war on Xibei San Ma and Manchukuo.

Follow the focus tree which gives you civilian factories.

Declare war on Xibei San Ma, call Soviet Union to lend convoy from them, and justify Xinjiang.

Japan begins civil war, declare Manchukuo, use the decision to transform a civilian factory into a military factory, don't forget to lend convoy from Soviet Union, and justify war on Tibet.

[***][This is important] defeat Manchukuo before Japan ends its civil war, annex Mengkukuo, puppets Manchukuo.

Activate No Garrison (it will be fine).

Build an army to gather at the Beijing border to prepare for war.

[north garden]

Japan ended the civil war, the entire fascist army along with the Korean peninsula will be transferred to Manchukuo (Game Mechanics) ->[***].

I added troops from Manchukuo (puppet) to the army (about 20 - 50 division 80% equipped).

At that time I had 56 divisions

I declare war on Xinjiang, justify war on Communist China, and call the Soviet Union to massively attack.

Yunnan join Commitern right after I declared war on China.

Yunnan surrendered to China in April 1938, in May 1938 Soviet civil war began Commintern disintegrated, peace conference between Yunnan and China began, China annexed Yunnan.

In June 1938 I defeated the Republic of China and their puppets.

I contributed 85% of the war, the Soviet Union 15% use greedy algorithm in programming to optimize land taking and it's quite good I take all the land (only works well when your contribution is above 60%)

After that i declare war on Tibet and Communist China, defeated them on November 7, 1938.

[north garden]

Why is it a greedy algorithm, it has a lot to do with interest rate math, etc., I can't say it all right now xD

[solid gust]

bro's out here doing all the calculations

[north garden]

yep

[solid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/math-zack-galifianakis-thinking-calculating-gif-5120792

[north garden]

[solid gust]

I must admit, seeing this confuses the hell out of me because I am simply Patrick

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-board-head-gif-12785664