challenge-questions

[cloud wharf]

yes its 50/50 too, when someone is at war u either get that or commie event

its because italy is at war with ethiopia

but what are the odds in 5 games i have to restart run because i got stupid rearm event instead of 10% commie support

[floral storm]

can you please make an extremely hard challenge

like for example, conquer the world as bhutan on Elite Mode, with all major countries buffed, without historical AI focuses on, ironman mode

[mighty elm]

ok murkesha convinced me, absolutely great guy, +++rep for donating me tfv

the hoi4 gods had better answer his wishes

👀

[solid gust]

I figured the code was for you lmao

As for creating more difficult challenges, its a double edge sword

coming up with challenges difficult enough for the more try hard participants is something I would like to do, but it also alienates those who would like to participate in the first place, striking the balance of ease of access with difficulty is something I struggle with in most of these challenges

[mighty elm]

this would be a crazy one lol

[hoary galleon]

can this be my opportunity to complain about all the 70 day focuses in the french focus tree?

please dev team

[glad vector]

going for european commune first 😉

[cloud wharf]

am i allowed to go fascist and conquer everyone, and than proceed to lose to the sov union so everyone turns communist?

[signal frost]

Simply go communist and avoid the last step

[cloud wharf]

communism sucks at justification

[signal frost]

No?

They generate less world tension doing so

It isn't faster than fascists

[cloud wharf]

its way slower

[signal frost]

I don't think so

[cloud wharf]

you do

its one of the perks of being fascist

fast justifications

[signal frost]

What determines justification speed is world tension and claims

[cloud wharf]

Fascists have virtually no restriction on justifying war goals. If a fascist country is already at war with a major power, they can justify a new wargoal 80% faster than normal.

https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/War_goal#:~:text=Justifying a war goal costs,6-9 months to complete.

from the wiki

[signal frost]

Okay, when at war with a major

I thought all countries justified faster when at war with a major

[cloud wharf]

its only fascist nations

[signal frost]

Communists can justify at any time too, they just don't get the boost when at war with a major

[cloud wharf]

u dont get it

[signal frost]

I get it

[cloud wharf]

do you u encircle london and alwyas be at war with them

[signal frost]

I just think it isn't worth it if you got focus war goals

[cloud wharf]

than u justify on everyone and get them to join uk faction

u get like 4 focus wargoal as commie france

[signal frost]

Pretty sure France has some war goals on some

And multiple countries join Allies anyways

[cloud wharf]

theres is like 20 european countries

[signal frost]

Or you let Germany attack everyone

And you kill Germany after they took out most of europe

Germany will bring most of Europe to Allies

So you only have the Swiss and Swedish to deal with

Switzerland has its annoying spirit though

[cloud wharf]

finland spain portugal?

[signal frost]

You get a thing for Spain I believe

[cloud wharf]

and u wont beat the other guys time

ur strat wont work against a jul 39 time to beat

[signal frost]

Oh that was July 39

Didn't realize that

[mighty elm]

no its not a timed challenge

chak said that yesterday i think

i think (chak correct me if im wrong) its more of a raffle

for those that sumbit a valid screenshot

[copper anchor]

Did u play w democratic debuffs?

[glad vector]

yeah, including disjointed govt

[solid gust]

I would prefer not, as the point of this challenge is to go communist yourself first and then convince others by any means to flip/remain commie

[cloud wharf]

imo i think its kinda unbeatable i think son of inti got perfect rng with czech entente and the nordic defence alliance

[solid gust]

well the point of this challenge is not time based, but I do agree rng plays into it especially since you're already going alt hist

[cloud wharf]

yea i know i just thing son of inti sort of got the perfect run

[fickle river]

sometimes, you are perfect

[hollow glacier]

do i have to anex or just occupy terrain in newwst challange

[solid gust]

Can be annexed, or the countries can be independent so long as they are communist

Though I am pinging here as I am not allowed to use videos as submissions, they have to specifically be screenshots

[hollow glacier]

so i have to send screenshot of every country?

[solid gust]

just need a screenshot that its achievement compatible, and that everyone is communist, similar to this post #challenge-submissions message

[cloud wharf]

Just post ideology map mode

[hollow glacier]

oh ok

and who wins? like the person with the best time it anyone?

[solid gust]

its not timed, no. this one will not be fully random but I will discuss with my colleagues how exactly to choose the winner

making more accessible challenges means different criteria

[hollow glacier]

ok

thx for help i will submit it tomorow

[solid gust]

no worries, friend, and apologies again. due to EU law I am not allowed to accept videos so it messes with a few things

[mighty elm]

When is the deadline for this one?

[solid gust]

challenges are always 2 weeks from start date

give or take one day

so this one should end around the 6th

[left raft]

Can you play the mod of the game online??

[oblique veldt]

Now this, is a challenge question lmao

[dense oar]

Huh?

[drifting fog]

give me a challenge (note: i suck at the game)

[dense oar]

Go up in this channel

[lavish solstice]

[glad vector]

for a future challenge I would like to see a jury judging how beautiful/ awful the borders turned out in the end 😉

the submissions alone should be worth it

"as Britain, redivide europe as creatively as possible"

[regal fiber]

Is there a new challenge?

[mighty elm]

No I think that's just a suggestion

But honestly I love it lol

[solid gust]

If I ever get better at playing the game I could eventually be apart of that jury, until then I'll note that down haha

Maybe the next challenge could be teaching Chak how to make div's correctly

[mighty elm]

i heard the best division was just a single brigade of artillery

oh and dont use planes theyre redundant and useless

[solid gust]

I learned that the hard way, okay

im not totally lost

I'm just bad

XD

[mighty elm]

oh i never thought you were bad lol, i was just trying to see how long it took for someone to call me out on my "advice"

if you have the game knowledge to come up with decently balanced challenges i would say youre pretty decent

[solid gust]

no no, I know I am bad lmao

[mighty elm]

well ig we gotta agree to disagree lol

have you ever thought about throwing your own hat into the ring with your challenges? not necessarily as a rigid participant but as an opportunity to get a different perspective?

[solid gust]

If I ever have free time for them I would, considering I currently work more than one job haha

[wraith sand]

This would end up like that one art contest meme, with the most disgusting Europe winning

[mighty elm]

<@&846894118219022336>

Thank you mods!

[spring void]

I tried to get the Ethopian African Union achievement once. Finally got a 10th nation into the faction & went to see if I had gotten the achievement. I didn't bother to read the list of specific nations that counted towards it... I ended up spending way too long causing uprisings & turning all of Africa into a complete CF.

[lucid cliff]

hi

[mighty tide]

Is it enough if all of europe is communist even if i am still at war with faction members?

[solid gust]

so long as the countries within Europe are Communist, yes

[glad vector]

the permanent revolution!

[mighty elm]

https://tenor.com/view/communism-workers-revolution-red-flag-socialism-gif-23845642

[wheat merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/historymatters-germany-germanempire-treatyofversailles-versailles-gif-23127655

[hollow glacier]

is kurdistan in europe?

[lucid cliff]

No

[lucid cliff]

imma ask here because idk where else to ask

When will HOI4 be on sale again

[mighty elm]

It might not be a challenge question but it's still a challenging one lol

If anyone would know, it's chak

[glad vector]

Wasn't the last challenge two weeks ago?

[mighty elm]

yea i think its supposed to end today

but i havent seen chak online so ig hes busy today

so maybe tomorrow

[glad vector]

the revolution never goes as planned

[dense oar]

Don't worry about it comrade

[mighty elm]

"Beaten, But Not Defeated"

[solid gust]

I just got those teeth yanked that I was supposed to the other week. Apologies I can't do the challenges just yet!

[mighty elm]

Oh how'd it go?

[solid gust]

I think it went okay but I am out of commission for a few days, unfortunately

[mighty elm]

Oof, hang in there

[wraith sand]

Come mister tallyman, tally me banana!

[hollow glacier]

if im 2nd can i claim radio pack?

[solid gust]

correct, but you have to open a ticket for it for logging purposes 🙂

[hollow glacier]

ok

[mighty elm]

Does kings party uk mean go non-aligned?

[regal fiber]

Is there gonna be a challenge that doesn't require conquering half the world?

[solid gust]

Non-aligned, correct

[solid gust]

we have done multiple challenges that do not require a near world conquest, but they are not always the ones chosen.

I did not choose this week's challenge but in the future (closer to the release of ToA) there will be more South America focused challenges that is smaller in scope

[mighty elm]

rip my missing dlcs

[solid gust]

what paths do you have for the UK

[mighty elm]

oh i dont have man the guns so this one ill just be a spectator for

[regal fiber]

I haven't checked but I think that going non-aligned the manual way is possible while still completing the challenge

[solid gust]

it should be, and even so i tend to make allowances for those who do not have a given dlc

[mighty elm]

oh ok ill check later, but i think the non-aligned minister doesnt appear unless you have the dlc (the manual way)

[lavish solstice]

I dont think theres a non aligned minister for uk

[mighty elm]

Oh I'm thinking of Churchill as a minister bc he gives a little na

But you can't put him in if you're not NA to begin with

[arctic rock]

by 'own' do i need to conquer all of the countries or can i have a few puppets???

[crystal wren]

should i have some dlcs

[solid gust]

you should own them but a couple (2-3) puppets is fine

[fathom tiger]

Will this be true if the world comes under British rule?

[abstract blade]

what decides the winner btw

[nimble stump]

Couldn’t you just list the nations or put a link?

[nimble stump]

The map is literally just showing a world conquest it isnt specific enough

[solid gust]

I didn't make this challenge this time around, or there would have been a list

Let me try and find the list of them all in a little bit after my meeting 🙂

[solid gust]

This one is fastest time to conquer all the required nations

[glad vector]

oof, well at least germany and soviet union are not producing bananas in that map... 😯

[solid gust]

The list of Countries will be as follows, but for simplicity's sake some will be reduced to region;

United States
Central americas
Ecuador
Colombia
Venezuela
Brazil
Bolivia
Paraguay
Argentina

Spain and Portugal
Greece and Türkiye
Egypt
Libya

Cote D'voire region including Liberia, Guinea, Ghana, Togo and Benin
Mali and Senegal
Southern half of Africa excluding Namibia and Botswana
Australia

From the map given, I will exclude China, India, Pakistan, Yemen and Oman, Thailand, in order to reduce the full scope of the challenge, and Japan, New Guinea, Indonesia as well as the rest of South East Asia, since a recent challenge was already near there.

[hollow glacier]

i still had to conquer axis

[glad vector]

Might as well

[raven nest]

you dont have to

[glad vector]

I suppose if germany grabs too many bananas for themselves..

I'm thinking of doing Queens party. Would never be the fastest, ofc

[raven nest]

yeah im thinkning about it too

but queen is rng or no?

u can get it in like 1950

[hollow glacier]

ik but they declared war on me

after breakin non sgressive pacy

[glad vector]

to a large degree, usually very late game yes

[fathom tiger]

what if the whole world? fits?

[solid gust]

Those are simply the required ones, if you conquer the whole world it works too

[glad vector]

haven't gotten all my bananas yet, but I got this queen here 😉

[mighty elm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-outpost-the-outpost-series-fantasy-tv-the-cw-syfy-gif-23463358

[glad vector]

indeed

[hollow glacier]

Bruh im conquering australia in 51s

[dense oar]

Did you get Indonesia?

[glad vector]

nope

not on the list

#challenge-questions message

maybe that should be pinned?

[dense oar]

Yeah probably I was looking at the image

[hollow glacier]

What have @arctic rock omega meant by saying shortended list

#challenge-submissions

[arctic rock]

.

@hollow glacier

[floral storm]

Where can I suggest stuff for Hearts of Iron 4? I searched on Paradox Forums but there wasn't a thread or board for suggestions

[hollow glacier]

I have question for people who made current challange in 1944 how you did it so fast if you must jutify every war goal

[glad vector]

UK has an advisor that helps for that - reduce cost for subversive activities

that helps a little

[cloud wharf]

im 90% sure its a justification exploit

[glad vector]

well, in my run it wasn't

[cloud wharf]

because it takes 5.8 year to justify on everone with 100% tension

[glad vector]

more, since one or two countries have modifiers that cause longer justifications

[cloud wharf]

yea

im quite sure thats how he got the quick france too

[fickle river]

if you ask me

i do not even know what justification exploit is

i just conquer

for those saying it is an exploit

it can be done faster quite easily

1. keep Edward (he has buffs)
2. the game starts in 1936, in 37 you are non-alligned and can immediately start justifying, you just never stop

[arctic rock]

In 37 how is tension above 50? Isn’t that the non aligned limit?

[fickle river]

you have buff from focus tree

[cloud wharf]

i take back what i said anyway

its actually really doable

to get a faster time

[solid gust]

That would be the 'suggestion' part of the HOI subforum

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/hearts-of-iron-iv-suggestions.953/

[cloud wharf]

idk what son of inti did but it honestly seems impossible for me

the justifications time physically kill how fast u can go

because u flip nonaligned in like jan 37 and u have 18 countries to justify on

given 100% wt and u justify two per time

its 205 times 9 with king edward

[limpid violet]

which italian focus tree can let me remove all the extra division

[glad vector]

Disband the blackshirts or something?

[pseudo pebble]

Anyone has an intresting mod for hoi4?

[mighty elm]

try r56 or red flood those are good

[cloud wharf]

quick question are the congo peru and chile needed?

[mighty elm]

I think Congo yes but the other 2 no

Chak put a list a bit up in this channel

[solid gust]

this is the list of requireds, I lowered it from the total since a recent challenge was in the southeast asian area

[solid gust]

Going easy on you all with this challenge, I wonder what Wacky things you will come up with for runs, the next challenge will be more South America Focused as a heads up 😉

[gilded fern]

Including islands like Cuba...Greenland?

[solid gust]

Greenland and the islands not needed, no

simply mainland North America is needed for this challenge

[atomic ledge]

Is historical AI required?

[solid gust]

nope, unless specifically stated, you can have alt hist AI on for most challenges 🙂

[mighty elm]

Is this one timed?

[solid gust]

not specifically no, it may come down to that if there are too many entries but otherwise this is an 'easy' challenge before ToA releases

[glad vector]

bonus points for Trotsky? Communist Canada seems hardest I think

[solid gust]

hmmmmm, sure why not

yknow me, always a few bonus points for the comrades ()

[spring void]

Canadian Geese inbound.

[fickle river]

@solid gust (sorry for ping) I seriously feel attacked (dont take it too seriously), but i really wonder how it happened, that i did not win the last challenge, while the queen run and the fast run won (i could just wait half a year and get elisabeth too or stay with Edward and be faster), I did something in between and fully understand one of them, but both and not me seems just offensive (also helped others do it and made imperial federation, but who cares)
I do not want to be offensive in any way, it is just so dissatisfying and sad (im fine, trust me)

anyone else can answer this too

if you know the answer

[solid gust]

so, the reason you did not win this one was not that your submission was invalid, but rather you won the previous challenge.

I do not allow people to win twice in a row, in order to guarantee that other people may participate and win, instead of it being the same people winning each and every time. This makes it fair for others to hop into the challenges and have their own chance of winning in the first place

your submission was good, but I also had antasil winning as they do not play for the prizes, but rather the challenges themselves

[fickle river]

thanks

that is what i needed

you could just write it somewhere

i play for the win (if i cant win im not in)

[solid gust]

I did mention it more than a few times to different people,however I will pin a message regarding it in the future 👍🏻

[fickle river]

nice

great

and fair

[mighty elm]

honestly i play for the win too, but i love achievement hunting and its cool to see other people do crazy things in hoi4

[fickle river]

i usually have those achievements, so it is not really achievement hunting for me

[mighty elm]

do you have all of them????

holy moly

(also sorry my comments are challenge irrelevant)

[fickle river]

i used to

stopped playing when no step back came out

[solid gust]

this is the discussion channel in regards to challenges or general things revolving around it, it is fine

its the other tab where I will smite conversations

[fickle river]

or a bit before

[spring void]

@fickle river If it makes you feel any better I've been making attempt after attempt just to try to get close to your time.

[drifting fog]

can i unite north america as australia

[dense fox]

i’m assuming this challenge is time based right?

[solid gust]

Conquer and own as Annex, correct

[solid gust]

Not this time, unfortunately, or at least not for an entry with the chance of winning this time around.

If you don't wish to win, I'll allow it just for whacky fun 🙂

[solid gust]

This one is not time based, but if there are multiple winners running the same setups it may be, yes

@tiny spade Apologies for the ping, however the challenge submissions tab is not the discussion channel, so I am pinging here

Only Mainland North America is needed this time, Greenland and Cuba are not included. No Naval invasions this time :p

[tiny spade]

Sorry bout that,won’t do that again,thanks for the heads up

[solid gust]

It's okay!

I was just giving you the heads up before I removed the comment is all 🙂

[dense fox]

thank uuuu

[glad vector]

ohh yeah, I can't win this one anyway, so I might as well go for a fun twist.... 😉

[arctic rock]

Can I do it as the North American Dominion??? (Still has Canada tag)

Or is it timed

[cloud wharf]

its not timed

but there is bonus point if u do it as trotskyist canada

[fickle river]

what exactly does that even mean?

[cloud wharf]

Go commie canada

And than do the path where u cant join a faction

[fickle river]

that is not trotskyist though, is it?

your leader does not change i think

[mighty elm]

I think it's more of a flavor through the focus tree

[fickle river]

so what is the most epic (valued) path

?

[mighty elm]

Like catholic/junta Mexico both being facsit

[fickle river]

what?

you know you are supposed to conquer all and not be cursed

is the best path
a)Trotsky
b)3rd Mexican empire
?

not even sure how to do the second

Canadians are just silly

fascists in general are just join axis

and US is too easy (its not a challenge)

[crystal wren]

am i able to change my ideology

[fickle river]

why would not you?

[solid gust]

No ideology is barred from this challenge

[crystal wren]

okay thx

[crystal wren]

because everything will be ez

[fickle river]

as US, very much, Canada and Mexico, not so much

[signal frost]

Let's see if I can do this as Democratic USA...

[raven nest]

i have a question

do i need to start as one of the mentioned countries? or can i start as any nation and then release myself as one of those 3 nations

[solid gust]

In order to win, it has to begin as one of the 3 nations.

If you do not want to win the prize, you're more than welcome to try other ways to complete the challenge

[raven nest]

sad because i wanted to form dominion of north america first and then release myself as dominiion of north america

that would be cooler

[outer summit]

Can I start as one of the central American countries? (i.e Guatemala, Honduras, Nicagura, etc)

[fierce forum]

Hi can I start to play America fascism with not to happen civil war???

[signal frost]

If you want to flip completely fascist, no

Not from what I can tell

[subtle remnant]

How should we provide proof of owning all the territory?

[mighty elm]

Send a screenshot like ones in #challenge-submissions

[fickle river]

i think he meant, how to proof, that it is not occupied, but really owned, because Canada (i guess)

[subtle remnant]

Yeah I meant that

[fickle river]

i think the best proof, would be screenshot of occupied territories, if you can release Canada, they are annexed, but noone else did it, so, who knows

[cloud wharf]

Ask them to hover over stability

[mighty elm]

My bad, sorry for the dumb answer lol

[signal frost]

Caribbean and Greenland doesn't count right?

[mighty elm]

No you just need mainland

[signal frost]

Do puppets count or no

[solid gust]

not in this one

[signal frost]

Well darn

guess time to trade away all my convoys

[signal frost]

Well, just because Caribbean and Greenland isn't needed, doesn't mean they aren't North American

[solid gust]

of course, but for this challenge there is no naval invasions required

[signal frost]

I just realized the harsh tone of what I said. Oops. I meant to say it as a "I'm going in for the extra mile by taking the unrequired stuff"

[signal frost]

I think he ignored naval treaty and had early war with Allies

[subtle remnant]

Yeah its pretty much just try to get to war with the allies as fast as possible and use the quick justification time to get everyone in

[solid gust]

The current challenge will end on Friday, so that way everyone has a day with ToA before the next challenge :)

[cloud wharf]

So i assume the next challenge would need the new dlc?

[solid gust]

You won't need the DLC but challenges are typically in the area of a new DLC, at least for a few

[solid gust]

@weary cove responding here since the challenge submissions channel isnt a discussion channel

The challenges typically are announced on Tuesdays, but since Trial of Allegiance is launching on the 7th, I am doing the challenge on Friday instead, which is the day after the newest Country pack releases, hence the 'everyone gets a day with ToA' comment, meaning everyone who purchases Trial of Allegiance has a day before the challenge to play with the content

[weary cove]

Thanks

[lucid cliff]

Until what year does France guarantee the independence of Romania?

[native imp]

like 1937 ish, short enough that when you wait for the pp to justify on turkey and romania comes to their defense, france is no longer guaranteeing them

[hushed escarp]

tried to do the north america challenge as democratic USA using war powers act. Britain decolonized and left a bunch of new countries in north america, and the North American Dominion focus doesnt give me war goals on them. Since im a democracy i cant justify, and i already fired the fascist demagogue and did Limited Intervention, which locks me out of the fascist path. Is there a way to get those war goals or am i screwed?

[signal frost]

Possibly, also there can only be one democratic USA liberation of North America!

[hushed escarp]

also when i went to war with el salvador and honduras, I for some reason didnt have enough war score to annex even though I was the only participant, so I had to make them a supervized state which i didnt realize means i literally cant annex them

so i guess this save is done for lol

[glad vector]

yeah I filed a bug report about that ages ago. when you conquer a one-state nation as a democracy you often have too few points because democracies get fewer points, for some reason

[upbeat swan]

Cost to annex nations is higher for democracies

[solid gust]

Hello there, Generals!

This is a post to outline some of the more regular/simple rules of the challenges so that no one will be confused on how participation works here, concerning winning, submissions and questions. This will also be pinned for a reference post, and if there are changes, this post will be edited accordingly 👍🏻

• If you win a challenge, you will need to DM @brittle mortar to claim your prize. This way there is a record of you receiving your prize, and I do not lose track of it, as well as my DM's not being the place for it in the first place. What prize you have won will be mentioned in the challenge announcement,
• If you win a challenge, you cannot win the very next one. That way it is not the same person winning every single time, and it allows more people to join in. But that doesn't mean you can't participate in it if you so wish!
• I do not require Historical AI to be on for the majority of the challenges, so if its not specified, it is not required.
• If you do not wish to win the challenge but wish to participate in good faith, I am usually open to seeing what wacky things you come up with
• All participation requires that you have Ironman mode on, with a screenshot proving it, with you hovering over the trophy at the top right of the screen in game to show the date and Ironman mode on among other things.
• If there are additional things needed to be submitted I will mention it either in the challenge announcement or in this channel.
• Remember to have fun with the challenge, if it is too difficult or too annoying to do for you, don't stress about it, there will be more in the future 🙂

[hidden fulcrum]

how am I supposed to do that without the dlc? does non aligned counts?

[subtle remnant]

Was there ever a check of SweptOmegas Run in my opinion of the screenshot it looks like he doesnt own the territory only controls it

[solid gust]

This challenge is mainly focused around those who have the DLC, as it just dropped, not every challenge is for everyone.

You can participate as non-aligned for this challenge however

[solid gust]

It seems the same to the other Mexico submissions, at least to myself, with the only difference being the faster time.

though the requirement of the challenge was not time

[fickle river]

that seems right

[arctic rock]

To be honest, i didn't even think i was the fastest time

[subtle remnant]

I did it faster with USA

[fickle river]

i think you were the fastest one on Trotsky Mexico (which counts as more i guess according to Chak), but you still did not own those territories

[subtle remnant]

Also you cam see no change ro the UK witch is nearly impossible to do

[solid gust]

clarified my response, but if i am incorrect let me know

[fickle river]

he explained it, that it was because of French peacedeal crashing the game

[subtle remnant]

Also I owned everything as the UK and all other Minors had a seperate peace deal

[fickle river]

i would personally rank 1.Antasil-actually had to capitulate everyone as Trotsky Mexico and 2. Tomatensaf-fastest time (also racism if fun) 3. the rest and 4. those who did it as Canada (literally noone)

just my opinion

[raven nest]

i dont understand this challenge

you just have to puppet or annex portugal as brazil?

thats all?

[solid gust]

You could annex/puppet it, technically, but there is a certain focus in the New ToA Brazil tree regarding Portugal and the monarchy

[subtle remnant]

Also Hes still at war

[hidden fulcrum]

does it have to be historical or non historical?

[subtle remnant]

Previous Challenges if not specified then both is allowed

[hidden fulcrum]

now am doing my second attempt first one sucked

[spiral notch]

do puppets work

[raven nest]

how is it challenge tho

all you need to do it click like 10 focuses and thats it

and who will win

[solid gust]

Not all challenges are made to be difficult, and this one can be done in multiple ways as specified by the 'whatever force necessary'

plus sometimes a nice simple challenge is good to get the ball rolling for new content

[subtle remnant]

If you want clear evidence he has British Honduras, Britain hasnt decolonised (seen from the Colonies in Africa) Venezuela is at war with Britain and France which would cause them to join a Faction he is at war with France (seen from Puerto Rico) means hes also is at war with Britain which is weird beeing at war with a country you already beaten. Especially because you can see he normally takes everything or creates Puppets (seen at Hawaii and Suriname). Also there is the Black Border at Canada and Britain which normally indicates a border between 2 territorries controlled by the same country but not owned (this also can get caused by a bug but weird that it happend twice).

[signal frost]

Darn, I was hoping for a 2nd or 3rd place, but I guess not this time

[drifting fog]

do you need achievements for this challenge? like i know you need ironman mode but what about like the difficulty does it have to be regular or nah

[solid gust]

have to able to earn achievements yes

[drifting fog]

wrong channel

[drifting fog]

ok

[fervent harness]

@subtle remnant I think starting the Portugal game doesn't count, let's wait for Chak to answer that

[crystal wren]

can i do the challenge without dlcs?

[solid gust]

By subjugating themselves to the throne they do not own it so it would not count, no, but rather they'd be under it

[solid gust]

You can, however it'll be very much more difficult, as this is a challenge focused on the newest DLC

You may go unaligned but you will have a harder time accomplishing it so if you can come up with a wacky way to get it done I'm all for it

I totally didn't hit enter before I was done typing nope

[crystal wren]

thank u

[signal frost]

@shut karma challenge submission is only for the current challenge issued by the server

[fervent harness]

What was the criteria for the last challenge?

really confusing

[cloud wharf]

puppet portuagl essentially as nonaligned brazil

[fervent harness]

in less time?

[solid gust]

no time requirement, but it was either puppet Portugal as Brazil, or conquer the land

I found it quite funny two of you got the same time exactly so decided to give you both a lil something

I am going to be doing more time specific challenges in the near future, but in the meantime most of the challenges will be more laxed on that part, to encourage more people to participate.

everytime we have more people participating, I can give out a bit more and give back a bit more to the community

[fervent harness]

@undone jungle I tried, but God doesn't want you to get a dlc

[undone jungle]

[solid gust]

@vale jetty The challenge run has to have been started after the challenge goes live, it cannot be a previous run.

and i dunno man, its quite hard to get to 1944 a few minutes after a challenge goes live :p

[vale jetty]

But I worked so hard to get it 😄

Fair, fair

I restarted, will submit again after I'm done 😛

[solid gust]

also before anyone asks for some specific criteria for this one;

• No time requirement
• Bordergore must be from your own owned state or your puppets
• Ironman is required(achievement compatible) but you can use graphical mods
• Can be done with or without the DLC
• You have to play as Chile the entire time, can't swap

[vale jetty]

jesus christ.

[neon obsidian]

is the Native states of South America a formable?
Can't find how to become it as Chile

[weak spade]

if you have the dlc, its over in the monarchist path.

[neon obsidian]

ohh ok, thank you

[cloud wharf]

u guys prob should do this challenge soon before 1.14.3 gets pushed out

chile gets nerfed pretty hard

[mighty elm]

nerfs or no nerfs murkesha

your debt will be repaid

[frosty mirage]

does panama count as south american in this challenge?

[solid gust]

In this challenge it does, yes

[spice marlin]

dlc required?

[solid gust]

This challenge does not require ToA, as the secondary objective is achievable without it

[unborn spire]

[lucid cliff]

what is that mod that starts you in 1933?

[tardy tartan]

Hoi4 Darkest Hour

Must say is more complex than normal hoi4, proceed with precaution

[glass dagger]

Good evening, I don't know if you can fix the states and provinces since these were the territories of Peru, but maybe today 4 paradox

[signal frost]

That isn't 1936

Oh, I see what you are asking for now, also why in challenge questions channel

[lavish solstice]

What are they asking for

[lavish solstice]

It wont be fixed as i said already because its an 1810 map

[signal frost]

They want states to be those shapes so Peru can invade other countries to get that shape back

[lavish solstice]

💀

[signal frost]

Idk why he wants border gore but okay

[lavish solstice]

fr

[glass dagger]

Good evening, I don't know if you can fix the states and provinces since these were the territories of Peru, but maybe today 4 paradox

focus peru

I think that states should be created or states modified as well as unique focus for Peru because Peru itself was a help, how to negotiate for the alidos and the axis and Asia, as well as having a focus to form the empire of Peru to form it you have to have a decision can only be formed if you have all the states of the confederation plus the state of Guayaquil

[solid gust]

This is not the channel for suggesting fixes or changes to things

If you want to make a suggestion, it will have to be on the forums

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/hearts-of-iron-iv-suggestions.953/

[neat coyote]

What happens when you win a challenge

[signal frost]

Free DLC/Music/Armor Pack of your choice

[neat coyote]

Ok

Noted

[solid gust]

You guys have until monday for this challenge, just letting you know 🙂

[abstract brook]

man luxembourg is impossible

im able to get the netherlands

really easily

but everyone keeps gauranteeing belguim

any tips anyone?

[zinc estuary]

get gud

[abstract brook]

the most helpful of tips

[lucid cliff]

Well it depends on the path which Britain goes.

[past lion]

Is it also possible to gift the won dlc to a friend if you already have all DLC's?

[lunar saffron]

For chile's challenge do I need to have the latest dlc?

[solid gust]

You do not as there is a secondary objective you can do

[solid gust]

If you already have all the DLC's, yes you can give one to a friend

[mighty elm]

Nooo

Perry the platypus wasn't going to let me win that easily...

[lilac oar]

Hello, I need help with my microphone because when I'm in game, it's on silent and can't get it on, but when I'm out, because the game goes, then it's all tried, can someone help me further, please

[signal frost]

There is no in game voice chat

[fickle river]

If you can not speak back, but you keep hearing voices, best recommendation i can give you as a gamer is to visit a doctor.

[wooden kestrel]

Q: What if the voices tell me not to visit the doctor?

[lofty aurora]

By blood alone or arms against tyranny

?

[fringe cairn]

blood alone they prefer

[solid gust]

People like BBA for the Designer, others prefer AAT for the market, its all up to preference

[lofty aurora]

I will get AAT

[fickle river]

tell them to visit the doctor themselves

[mighty elm]

i can just go to you dont worry

[solid gust]

dont trust him, his company seems off for some reason...

[tall oasis]

Then don’t go lmao

The voices know better

Obviously the Byzantine Empire

Hail Constantinople

[wooden kestrel]

So true

[idle roost]

Roman Empire

Eastern Orthodox Church kinda ass ngl

[misty beacon]

can someone gıve me challange

easy

[native marten]

world domination

start off as luxembourg though

[autumn fable]

done

[misty beacon]

can someone

no world conquest

[versed shuttle]

ok so how good are you

[plush torrent]

conquer germany by 1937 as luxembourg fr

[versed shuttle]

no but just play austria and reforn austrio hungarian empire

[misty beacon]

i bad

[uncut portal]

Endseige 1945 germany

[vital cobalt]

As south Africa, take Khiva, for no reason.
Just Khiva

[fickle river]

Do you want a challenge?

Silence the voices!

[plush torrent]

can't they're in my head

[flat frost]

El Salvador puppets all nations

While communist

[idle roost]

World domination as Germany BUT you can only have 10 cavalry divisions

[prime tulip]

Reach moscow as germany, with 3 million soldiers on bicycles

(requires a bicycles for all mod)

[golden sluice]

Sink The allied navy as a South American country. And I mean all of them.

[misty beacon]

As Communist Czechoslovakia, control Munich while being at war with Germany.

[coral shadow]

As monarchist Germany sink the British navy with only Battleships

[signal frost]

When are official challenges coming back again?

[solid gust]

Should be sometime Next week, I've been trying to create some challenges focused on War Effort changes 🙂

(If you have suggestions based off of the War Effort patch feel free to share them here~)

[cloud wharf]

as commie usa take over the ussr and china proper

[blazing lake]

doesnt that seem too easy

[waxen violet]

You’re right.

As commie usa take over every single state that was once communist. While on undisturbed isolationism

[rugged swift]

You have a decision to annex soviets anyway pretty sure

[rugged swift]

The worst part about this has to be waiting to sink the navy in the 500 diff battles

[blazing lake]

its pure rng if they decide to sail out

[rugged swift]

Navy just sucks

Just paradrop france and steal their navy, all you need

[blazing lake]

it would depend on if that counts as sinking ig

i surmise that you would need to build a bunch of navs and port strike the ai

[cloud wharf]

i think paradox patche it

[rugged swift]

Ah

[cloud wharf]

if u annex sov u only get the territory they control and u go to war with germany immediately iirc

[rugged swift]

Mmhm, still doable depending what state Germany is in

[cloud wharf]

yea

[golden sluice]

not if you build your navy right

[golden sluice]

well there's also port strike so even if they don't sail you can still kill their navy

[modest cloak]

Could someone provide some Hearts of Iron IV challenges?

[signal frost]

Official challenges will be soon

[rugged swift]

need some rq.

like on god

[fervent badge]

hi

[glad vector]

hello

[solid gust]

As a reminder, the next challenge will be on Friday 🙂

[signal frost]

Yoooo, let's go!

[graceful juniper]

the lowerst of civilian factories you can get prefebly close to 0% or -% of vanila game

[cloud wharf]

10%

So consumer goods reductions are kinda a moot point because of total mob

[solid gust]

For this challenge, You must conquer, not simply control the countries. The minimum required lands are those at the start of the game. No peacedeals.

For this challenge, the Fastest time will win. There are no requirements on Focus tree paths, and as always no mods outside of graphical ones.

[tired ruin]

so just annex them?

ez, gonna speedrun this

viva la francaise!

[solid gust]

So long as you conquer them and dont get it via peacedeal, yup

short and simple

[tired ruin]

poggers!

i think napoleon might be the optimal path for this

[solid gust]

Challenges run for 2 weeks at a time

[tired ruin]

communism is def good, but napoleon is good cuz it gives a quick wargoal on benelux then germany

fascism takes longest to get the wargoal

but doesnt fascism require italy, spain, portugal and some other ones to all accept, and each focus takes 70 days, and you got 4 of those focuses, thats pretty close i think to the amount of time for napoleon + you also gotta boost fascism

which eats your pp and stability

actually, i got a better strat, as france ill make the rhineland demilitarized

by force

or maybe it would be best if i wait to sudetenland

[signal frost]

Does Aquitaine count as France or must it be the French tag?

[solid gust]

has to be the french tag, sorry

[signal frost]

Darn, I thought I could be funny

[ashen widget]

Does the game have to be historical AI?

[solid gust]

No, I never require hist/non hist AI unless specified in the challenge itself

[ashen widget]

Okay

[tired ruin]

it seems i bungled my attempt to get an early victory over germany, but no matter, i will win regardless

and ill just do better next run

@solid gust i have a question, does 'germany' include Austria?

assuming they've done anschluss

[solid gust]

I specified in the first comment here that its starting territory. so anything they dont have at game start you dont need

[tired ruin]

ayh cool thanks!

[glad vector]

might be interesting to get to Germany early by denying Rhineland, though thats not easy

[signal frost]

I've tried this many times. Very RNG heavy sometimes, you have to deal with a Civil War, but you usually get them by 37

Well, not very RNG heavy, but there is still some involved

[tired ruin]

I did try this but i struggled, the french military industry is screwed at the start. imo the strat is, keep the civil war going untill you complete the "rearmament efforts" focus, cuz you need that war support

I ended up succeeding in the challenge, but i plan to optimize it and make it better

[rugged swift]

What's the challenge?

Oh just conquer Europe as france

Easy

[glass moat]

@solid gust can you use any division you want (e.g. space marines)

[solid gust]

There are no unit restrictions

[tiny folio]

ok so the challenge is to turn on historical AI and say no to the rhineland?

[glad vector]

possibly. but as ShadowJackal mentioned, you are really weak at that point. Plus, you'd still need to flip alignment for Luxemburg and Belgium

probably best to switch Nation Francaise or Communism asap

alternatively, if you're not about winning the challenge, but more about the coolest way to do it, it would be Vichy France ofcourse 😉

[glad vector]

re: my submission - the UK guaranteed Belgium so I took them too 🙂 It can probably be done faster, but this was quite allright

[tired ruin]

damn it, almost got it in early 1939 but bloody italy joined the war and stole literally only berlin and schleiswigg

need to figure out how ill build up an army quicker

the key to victory, im certain its held within doing the rhineland denial, but so far i have yet to be able to win there

i think i need a slight strange in tactic, when i go through the rhineland, yes i shall attack but i think i need to focus on quickly manuevering the stray divisions rather than just pushing

[crystal wren]

can i take 50% from germany because my allies want some lands?

[feral maple]

Is the idea to do it in the fastest time?

[glad vector]

#challenge-questions message

[feral maple]

Oh suck

Sick

I take it commands are out of the option

[glad vector]

wouldn't be much of a challenge then

[feral maple]

True

[tired ruin]

just realized you dont need to eat the netherlands

i mean, no reason not to, but you dont need to which is good to know

i suppose its useful to know as fascist france, since you dont need to justify on netherlands

[glad vector]

Yeah i took them as a bonus. Brits already guaranteed Belgium

[crystal wren]

does the time matter because i want to do world conquest and chill with france?
also does the ideology matter?

[tired ruin]

time does matter, ideology doesnt

[crystal wren]

dang its 1941 now (i was able to do it in 1939)

[cloud wharf]

yea fastest time possible

[crystal wren]

ok, thank u guys for helping

[cloud wharf]

wait what does no peacedeal means

if i capitulate them im gonna go into a peacedeal

[solid gust]

The no peacedeals rule for challenges simply means no dragging any of the required nations into a separate war and winning it, to only then take land from them for losing

the goal of this challenge is to take the land by your own military force rather than stealing land from peacedeals

[rugged swift]

March 37 is not bad

Wish I could give it a try, pc blew up

[tired ruin]

won in 38, i couldn't really beat it

[cloud wharf]

@solid gust must i resolve all war before the submission

[tired ruin]

@cloud wharf i wanted to ask, have you tried a more agressive approach? the approach you showed me does work, but i was thinking an aggressive approach couuld be faster and optimize the run

like using your motorized to surround the 3 infantry on the river rhine (to the right of maginot)

i almost did it perfectly

[cloud wharf]

if ur too aggresive

germany wont justify on lux

[tired ruin]

thats true

but getting lux that way is against the rules

ill show one sec

[tired ruin]

this basically

[cloud wharf]

i didnt drag them int o a seperate war

[tired ruin]

its def useful, but we need to defeat them ourselves

[cloud wharf]

germany just justified

also lux

[tired ruin]

ohhhh!! i misunderstood

[cloud wharf]

isnt a real nation

[tired ruin]

true

greater netherlands patriots rise up

[cloud wharf]

i did that agrresively

i fot germany killed in august 36

but ut limited by pp

[tired ruin]

ooh interesting!

would you say it was better that way?

[cloud wharf]

yes

u saved like 10 days

[tired ruin]

based based

ur def winning this challenge and honestly mad respect for that

[cloud wharf]

maybe

[tired ruin]

i do wonder, if its possible to rush some focus or perhaps something along those lines

y'know i have heard

that review foreign policy could be good

[cloud wharf]

nope

[tired ruin]

cuz you can get poland and czech in on the war, or atleast in ur faction

why not?

[cloud wharf]

actually yea maybe

[tired ruin]

you dont need to call them in

[cloud wharf]

no

it doesnt pay off

takes too long

[tired ruin]

thats fair

ohhh also no ability to justify

cuz ur stuck as democratic

[cloud wharf]

and u cant flip fascist if u do that

[tired ruin]

if the challenge was just defeat germany really quick

it would be so good

[cloud wharf]

the pp pick is just revive national bloc utilize league banned communism and than nation regeneration

u dont pick anything after that

[tired ruin]

what about political unity

[cloud wharf]

also spend 35xp on state serves military

[tired ruin]

since then you get rid of th emassive stablity and pp debuff

[cloud wharf]

no point

[tired ruin]

awws

[cloud wharf]

u need all the pp to justify early on

it takes too long to pay off

[tired ruin]

true true

not too related to the challenge but did give me a few ideas, might test some things

[solid gust]

for this one, yes

[glad vector]

I wonder if anyone would be bold enough to do this challenge as Vichy 🙂

[cloud wharf]

How to do the challenge as fast as possible
Release all country and return all territory
Delete all units not on continental France
Delete brigade colonial,del 2 mot del 3 tank and convert the remain 2 to the one with mot
Creat agency and put spy in Frankfurt
Convert all the remaining inf to the colonial division with arti
line them up on maginot all the other troops will line up on Picardy
Once the war starts snake for lille and Calais with tank and mot, while on maginot u snake for the river line at bitburg
Let inf attack into you so maybe pull some troops back so they attack when the time is right u push up two tile to encircle troops at bitburg push all the troops into bitburg and than support attack bitburg because ai will not walk back
Do that a few times until they have 1 inf per tile than u are free to snake

Focus picks
revive national block
utilize the league
banned communism
national regeneration

Once u done utilize the league click rally the league every 60 days

This challenge is very rng dependant

u have to pray the germans justify on lux to save u pp

and anexx them

and that u get the election event that gives u 7% fascism and communism and 25 pp

not getting any of the mrequire u to do the whole thing again

also ps justify on belgium once u have 9 pp and only to do exactly the focuses listed only u need to bank pp and get state serve the military

[bitter thistle]

how do you justify on belgium with only 9 pp

[cloud wharf]

U keep germany alive

Because if u are at war either majors

[bitter thistle]

oh right

bro i just killed germany ☠️

[cloud wharf]

H can justify cheaply on fascist nations

[bitter thistle]

now i have to redo my run

[lofty crystal]

I wonder if I’ll stand as the only one who tried it as a democracy or if somebody else will try/has tried other democracy strats/has done mine better

[glad vector]

as you command....

[lofty crystal]

OOOOO

Make a quick guide if you can that is awesome

[glad vector]

I did, although its a bit old by now

I intend to remake it

[lofty crystal]

Ah I see, I think I took a lot of inspiration from that when I initially did my more modern guide back in October

[lofty crystal]

I wish they would update the EU formable like they did Rome

Give it some special decisions after to invite and grow peacefully

[glad vector]

and the final form [/spam]

[tired ruin]

thought of an idea

leading the germans in, but having the territory scorched

meaning no supply

[glad vector]

I don't think the AI will always advance through that, but otherwise its a good idea

[cloud wharf]

its bad because

u will eventually have to push the maginot

or land a naval invasion

both are hard

since ai germany garrison their coastlines😭

[torpid glen]

As democratic Finland I'm trying to hold against the soviet's any suggestions?

[signal frost]

Push leningrad if possible otherwise hold and get port guards

Having a few offensive units is good. You can hold the line with 6/0s

[torpid glen]

I'm currently holding with 20 widths against the soviet's and my port guards are 20 widths with no artillery and only the engineer support companies attached to them

Should I add aa to port guards

[signal frost]

Eh, not of priority

[torpid glen]

Okay

[signal frost]

If you have the spare manpower and aa, then sure

[spiral canyon]

Is there like "canon" lore on how the second weltkrieg ends in kaiserreich?

[plush torrent]

someone wins

idk

[signal frost]

The only things that are Canon are everything before Jan 1, 1936 and Kerensky dies

And the league of southeast provinces explode

[tired ruin]

sadly, i realized you dont get enough pp to make it work, also cuz they'll have railways for the maginot

i wish scorched earth was based and disabled hubs too

[umbral latch]

Someone did it 😭

[subtle remnant]

Well I tried but I ain't caping Sov for Saxony

[umbral latch]

Do a World conquest vichy France fr 💀💀

[rugged swift]

Probably wouldn't be too bad

Practically just a late french wc

[glad vector]

Yeah awesome

[solid gust]

good job so far on the runs of this challenge, everyone

reminder that it ends this week on Thursday when a new challenge is announced 🙂

[manic mesa]

Oh no…

Chak is here

I am getting flashbacks

Wait a minute

This is the wrong chat

[solid gust]

@tawdry epoch hello friend, can I ask how you got to that early achievement of the challenge? Not accusing you of anything just wondering before I tally winners 🙂

[tawdry epoch]

sure.
diplomacy wise, release/return all non-core states, deny rheinland, finish the first two facist focus, spam the two decision until u can click the third focus which make u facist, and justify on belgium.
military wise, only keep like 40 20w inf at game start, after trivially killed french commune spam like 250 2w inf. make sure there are minimum troops on german border so germany would justify and dec on lux for u. After germany dec on lux put all 2w spams on border to bait german troops away from coast and finally naval invade & snake into germany.

[solid gust]

interesting, good knowledge of the mechanics I like it

New challenge should be up in a little over 15 minutes

[glad vector]

he makes it sound easy, but that fight against the Germans is pretty tough. A good win

[solid gust]

I hope to see someone find the next challenge easy, though it may be a bit difficult for some :p

[tawdry epoch]

yeah intense pause micro was needed

[cloud wharf]

wel techincally the cheating aspect

was he gotr belgium to join axis

and annex it that way

[tawdry epoch]

nah technically u can kill germany faster than u can even dec on belgium

[cloud wharf]

yes

u kill germany in like spetember

36

but u lack pp so u have to keep them alive to get cheap justification on belgium

i could tell because no troop on belgium

[tawdry epoch]

yeah exactly

[cloud wharf]

it was my strat but u actually click decision on time

[tawdry epoch]

bc i couldnt kill germany before i kill belgium in that run : (

[tawdry epoch]

i think it wasnt worth it to take ban communism focus?

but yeah overall strat is the same

[tawdry epoch]

its equivalent to 70 pp

[cloud wharf]

maybe

idk

banning communism saves u 60 days

and 25 pp

[solid gust]

I'm going to type up some answers to the next challenge right after it goes live in a moment for some of the basic questions, so forgive me if I dont get to yours immediately

[glad vector]

oof

[solid gust]

I told y'all, Spain without the S

[glacial stratus]

is Caliphate of Cordoba fascist Al-Andalusia or any ideology will do?

from what i understand challenge is about any arab nation forming Al-Andalusia, correct?

[solid gust]

-This challenge, as with everything should be done on Ironman on the latest patch.
-You are allowed graphical mods so long as they do not interfere with achievements being possible (A good example would be something like Murkesha uses)

-For this challenge, It has to be the Caliphate of Cordoba that is done, not another, so no eventually forming other things afterwards if its possible
-This one is not timed this time around, but rather just participation, though if there are enough entries I will go by time so that it is more fair.
-There is no requirement for Historical or Non-historical AI, so you do you
-When taking your screenshot, you have to hover over the achievement Icon to show the drop down menu, and I may ask you to take additional screenshots if I feel I need to validate your entry
-The requirement to conquer Portugal is only the land they have on the spanish peninsula, you do not need to grab their colonies/other lands

[solid gust]

This one is fascist, no others allow you to make it specificall the Caliphate of Cordoba iirc

[glad vector]

I don't think its idealogically dependent - though you need to conquer stuff, so ...

[solid gust]

I think getting specifically the title of Caliphate of Cordoba requires facism

[glad vector]

if you do communist though, I suppose it wouldn't be called caliphate of cordoba

[solid gust]

as it changes depending on ideology

[glad vector]

ah yes, titles

[glacial stratus]

according to wiki "Caliphate of Cordoba" is specifically the fascist name for Andalusia

so doo doo brown ideology it is

[solid gust]

indeed

[bitter thistle]

How much do we have to take? All the way to the suez?

[solid gust]

the entire peninsula up to the french border at game start, and yes up to the suez for northern africa

[glass moat]

So this?

[solid gust]

yes!

good map

although the one state on the left that is lined instead of fully filled in I will also be counting

[toxic skiff]

I’mma do this

or die trying

lol

@solid gust when does the entry period end?

[solid gust]

all challenges are 2 weeks long

[toxic skiff]

so just graphics mods and that’s it?

oh and music mods of course

[solid gust]

as long as the mods do not interfere with ironman and achievements (so no using stuff like RT56 or the like) you should be fine

[toxic skiff]

cool cool so ironman compatible

[cloud wharf]

it was in fact possible to do it earlier

but i got the stupid bug where im stuck in a perpetual bug with a capped nation

[lucid cliff]

what is the new challenge

is france or iberian one?

[solid gust]

The Caliphate of Cordoba one

[cloud wharf]

so we have to release an african colony right

in order to do this challenge

[solid gust]

I won't comment on how to do it, but will say that there is some info on the wiki if you need it

[lucid cliff]

Do I need the La Resistance DLC to do it or can I just show that I did it?

(I can't afford any DLCs)

🥲

[quick knoll]

Can the states be ocupied or does it have to be after a peace deal?

[glacial stratus]

@solid gust question, let's say if i get to win #1 place, for any DLC i want, can i, hypothetically, keep my prize for any upcoming DLC that i want?

like having 1 "free-outta-jail" card, Monopoly style

[bitter thistle]

I think they can be occupied

But it's better to do a peacedeal I think so you don't lose the land to naval invasions etc

[solid gust]

No need to ping me, I regularly check in on the channel to respond 🙂

For Bobble, You can do it but you will need to have extra proof alongside the required lands, you will need to prove you did it as Fascist before completing the challenge requirements, to make sure you didnt just flip at the end.

States must be owned, so the war ended.

For Grey, you cannot 'keep' a DLC token, a challenge beginning at a certain date only has access to the DLC available at the time of its announcement

It is very difficult making enough challenges that everyone can do, but I can make exceptions at times when they can align

[lucid cliff]

How do I prove that I was fascist throughout?

Also is it just Algeria I can do it as?

well

"do it as"

[solid gust]

you have to show the nation you are playing is fascist before conquering everything

[lucid cliff]

okay cool

[solid gust]

so you will need at least 2 screenshots, one of your nation being fascist at an earlier date, and the 2nd one that is required of everyone at a later date of you owning the required lands

[lucid cliff]

okay great

[glad vector]

thats an odd requirement

especially since you can't go back in time in ironman

people are going to miss this comment, post their end result and you're going to have discussion

[solid gust]

this is only for them

as they do not have the DLC

[glad vector]

ahhh ok

[solid gust]

trying to make challenges accessible for everyone has a few challenges since everyone has different dlc's or none at all, so that is the best solution i have for them

[glad vector]

halfway there, I guess

I used to be able to do this relatively easily a few DLC's ago, but its way more difficult now (relevant changes: supply, higher lend-lease threshold

[glacial stratus]

for next time\s i suggest making a challenge where one should form Transcaucasia will all of its available cores

As 🇦🇿 Azerbaijan, 🇦🇲 Armenia or 🇬🇪 Georgia, form Transcaucasia will all of its cores possible

(its also tough since you have to fight the Soviet Union, Turkey and Iran)

🇹🇷 on historical is also guaranteed by both the UK and Germany 🫠

so it would be spicy enough challenge 😄

[lucid cliff]

transcaucasia is very easy

maybe dagistan is very spicy

l played 4 times

and is was so hard

[glad vector]

taking the long way around, already took out UK and Japan

[glad vector]

it looks to me most players here know how to form the Caliphate. But if people need it, I can make a quick guide/ video for it

[tiny folio]

I think its play as france and release north africa?

[gentle shadow]

Does anyone have any save games I can play?
I want to have a challenge😄.

[alpine raptor]

Hi what country you made It with?

And what ideology?

[glad vector]

I started as Algeria, fascist

[alpine raptor]

Non historical?

And you did the descolonization in Game options or just released Algeria as France?

[glad vector]

Just historical, did nothing with the game rules

[lusty perch]

Plz do

[north garden]

hey @solid gust Do I need to take the German Italy land in the picture?

and do i need to annex my puppet?

[north garden]

.

[glad vector]

lol. I started a recording - released myself as Algeria and got annexed back into France in a few months time. Didn't have that in my actual challenge run 😆

[solid gust]

For this challenge, no puppets are allowed so yes you would need to integrate them

as for the german italy i am not sure why that is showing the way it is but you control the land required, so it should be fine

Also as a reminder, let's try not to ping me in this channel, I always check in but I technically do not work for pdx on the weekend

[glad vector]

can we ping someone who is working?

[solid gust]

You can ping me during the week if need be, though try not to do it after 5pm eastern

[glad vector]

it was just a lame joke. I don't ping you anyway, since you always respond to questions

[solid gust]

ohhh lmao, I just woke up so my brain is not registering jokes just yet

[glad vector]

also, my sense of humor is Dutch

[solid gust]

you can technically ping someone who is working but... prepare for the consequences 🔪

[north garden]

sorry bro

[solid gust]

is okay, I am just someone who hates pings, I always make time for everyone doing challenges so there is no need to ping me here in the first place haha

[lucid cliff]

:D

when the event ends

[solid gust]

if you mean the challenge, every challenge runs for 2 weeks

[misty beacon]

someone can give me challange?

easy

[cloud wharf]

didnt look at the mod yet

but i think libya

is the fastest way to do this

despite having no resources

[dawn apex]

Do you get anything for these challenges or just for funzies?

[bitter thistle]

You can get a dlc for 1st place or an armour/music pack for 2nd and 3rd

[dawn apex]

How do you get placement for these challenges?

[grave tundra]

how can i spawn the caliphate

[bitter thistle]

Usually by completing the challenge the fastest

[solid gust]

Some challenges are by being the fastest, some of them are by the rarity of a given circumstance (trying to get a certain hidden leader and some are more difficult than others, etc) and sometimes its random chance, either by myself or I get another member of the community team to take a look

[dawn apex]

K thanks

[twilit rapids]

Are there any rewards for winning?

[cloud wharf]

epic dlc

[dawn apex]

When’s the next challenge?

[hasty jackal]

is this a dlc challenge

[solid gust]

They all are

provided enough people participate of course

[lucid cliff]

how much people you need

[solid gust]

I'm not going to mention that, but there is enough already for the current challenge

different challenges have different metrics

[dawn apex]

How long do I have until this challenge is up

[solar cove]

i did it😭

hmm i actually made a huge mistake

could have been a lot faster

[dawn apex]

I do tomorrow if it’s still here

[north garden]

to 29/6

[glacial stratus]

Question, right now i am playing as Libya, joined Axis, entire Allies declared on me

i captured all of Spain, Portugal and the entire North Africa

but since i had little troops, i had to ask Germany for help

i am close to capitulating Allies, but Germany took ONLY 1 OF THE SPANISH STATES (Cataluna)

i formed the Caliplate of Cordoba

but i want to gather even more cores by uniting Arabia

my question is:

If i form Arabia despite forming Caliphate of Cordoba, will it nullify the challenge?

or should i stay Cordoba tag for the sake of challenge?

[solid gust]

for this challenge, it has to remain the caliphate

[glacial stratus]

got it! cheers 🙏🏻

[glacial stratus]

also for challenge do you have to OWN territories after the war or you are allowed to control all required states WHILE you are at war?

[solid gust]

war has to be ended for this one

you must own them

[solar cove]

i was at war with czech who only entered the war because they guranteed portugal, i had a separate peace deal with portugal. this should count right?

[solid gust]

if you declared on portugal and they entered the war, you still have to resolve it if portugal is counted in the war

if you have a peacedeal with portugal, you need to resubmit with an additional screenshot showing its not a war with one of the required areas

[north garden]

OMG you play so well

[glacial stratus]

that was painful , but worht it 😄

in classic AI fashion, Peru went major and spammed 100+ divisions on its capital

wasted 1-in game year to break through Lima

other than that, capped Allies (puppeted them), then capped Axis ✊

(can send additional screenshots if needed)

[glacial stratus]

WAIT

French have Hatay at 1936 game start until it is given to 🇹🇷 Turkey

do we have to retake Hatay from Turkiye since you also mean "French posessions in Northern Africa"

or the ones in my screenshot will do?

[solid gust]

this map is a pretty good representation of what you need.

I also added a totally pro edit of it of the required and non required parts of africa

[glacial stratus]

Chak to the rescue, thanks 😌 (appreciate the effort with the ❌ markings)

[subtle remnant]

Maybe ask in #modding

[rapid raft]

Is there a channel to request a challenge to be added?

[solid gust]

there is not at the moment, but I sometimes take people's challenges into account/modify them

[solid gust]

reminder that the challenge ends on Thursday this week~

[glad vector]

if you're struggling with this challenge, look up Hovelax on youtube who published a neat guide last week 🙂

[signal frost]

Hovelax is underrated imo

[glad vector]

One of my big role models

[glacial stratus]

Transcaucasia still sounds challenging, considering you cannot start as 🇦🇿 🇦🇲 🇬🇪 at 1936 and actually have to play as Soviet Union a bit to get to a focus of releasing them. (Defragmenting Soviet Union rule disallows Ironman mode)

but in all honesty, any challenge is a good sport, fine by me 😄

[glacial stratus]

i also realized that South Azerbaijan in Iran can release 🇦🇿 (or if you play as Megali 🇬🇷 and carving up 🇹🇷 with help of 🇬🇧 and 🇫🇷 can release 🇦🇲 in Trabzon)

but whatever, you be the mastermind

[solid gust]

@north garden question regarding your submission, how did you accomplish the challenge in that time? (I am not accusing of anything as always I am simply curious on the route you've chosen)

[north garden]

Ok

First i play as Italy

i defeat allied before 1937

There are many guides about it online, I don't need to explain more about how to defeat the allies before 1937.

after that

I created puppet

this one

i gave my puppet about 120 transport airplanes

and don't forget to gave bomber airplanes, because the first attempt AI used transport planes at airports so transport planes are not in the stockpile

i build 1 military factory in here

and then I destroyed all of Italy's factories

Destroy all guns and military equipment to ensure that Italy does not have the ability to deploy troops

and then i relase Algeria

building army

declared war on Italy and Italian puppets

[north garden]

capture this puppet

and get 50% stockpile

[north garden]

and I got 50 to 60 transport planes

I turned my army into paratroopers

and use the acquired transport airplanes to transport soldiers to invade the motherland of Italy

Because Italy was unable to deploy its army, it quickly failed

Once completed, I erased the entire army leaving only 2 divisions and waged a civil war

Form the Caliphate of Cordoba

and complete the challenge

Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language

[solid gust]

Your english is perfectly fine friend 🙂

But this is a very nicely detailed explanation, thank you very much

[grave tundra]

In wich mod are you playing?

[cloud wharf]

In future there probably should be a need for a day 1 release rule

[solar cove]

you are so clever

i was thinking about this

since you had italy you probably did not start as a puppet day 1

but i could not figure out how you kill italy

i tried to kill them with military access but that was fixed by pdox

[solar cove]

and this part

i thought that building 50 transports from scratch after killing the allies and releasing the puppet would take too long

this is such a clever strat

[north garden]

My own graphic mod

[glacial stratus]

yeah, i just immediately released 🇱🇾 Libya after winning Italo-Ethiopia war in 1936 to make templates for the future Libyan army

then rushed to fasc. by civil war and joined Axis to cap the Allies

Germans took some of my cores in Spain so i had to leave Axis and cap them as well

then Peru went major so i had to sail to Chile to cap them too

the rest is history

i chose 🇱🇾 Libya for multiple reasons (other than for the fun of it)

1)I dislike most of the generic portraits on leaders(some generals look cool though) and fasc. 🇱🇾 has Italian admiral as a portrait so that was me being nitpicky 😄

2)I wanted to use the "Develop colonies" focus tree of Italy in By Blood Alone to its max potential, explore the different content that i haven't made use of b4

3)having 🇮🇹 puppet in the end is ironic and twisted take of 🇱🇾 resisting the Italian colonialism

(bonus points since somehow Italian admiral is the Caliph of a state that ceased to exist 905 years ago

1936-1031=905
(game start - Cal.of.Cordoba ceasing to exist))

[cloud wharf]

libya is the stongest if u realease day 1

since u will only have to take out allies

[solid gust]

I agree, though since I didn't specify that for this challenge I will not enforce it this time

Though it is still very interesting to see how people achieve the challenges on such a short time frame

[glacial stratus]

honestly finishing off Allies would be enough for my game too

by the time i declared on Spain i did not have the proper army, so i had to call the Germans to war

they only took off Cataluna, so thats why i started war with Axis after defeating the Allies

so i wasted 1 in-game year to own all of the required states

[north garden]

If you're curious, I also tried it once, i play as Algeria I think it's the best country you can play if you release them in day 1

[glacial stratus]

its much easier done with Algeria or Morroco since they are closer to the Iberian peninsula

its just 🇱🇾 has non generic portrait, so i thought that would be cooler 😄

and country name of Africa Nova doesn't sound bad rly

Chak~ when is the deadline for the challenge?

as if today, what time?

[north garden]

time zone ? 😄

UTC +2 ?

[solid gust]

in 15 minutes

[glacial stratus]

lovely

Good luck everyone, that was fun

[solid gust]

I usually look over everyone's submissions the day before and tally up the winners but i do allow for entries until 15 minutes before a new one is announced just in case

I am also biased for this next one but don't worry about it its totally not Canada related

...

[glacial stratus]

how do you choose winners though, random.org?

[solid gust]

each challenge is different, this one was timed

so, fastest runs this time

[signal frost]

Wait, are you saying if I do something Canadian, I get bonus points?

[solid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-bigbangtheory-maybe-gif-5336221

[signal frost]

Form Kurdistan challenge

starts as Canada

Easy bonus points

[glacial stratus]

wdym, like the first three submissions are the winners?

[solid gust]

no, fastest time in game to achieve the objective

[signal frost]

I wish that style points would be considered for 3rd place lol

Who needs speed when you got ✨ style ✨

[solid gust]

now I am going to write up the FAQ for this challenge before announcing it, so no more replies from me for now

[glacial stratus]

so, theoretically if your challenge will be done in Jan 1st, 1936 = automatic winner?

[north garden]

silent for 5min plz :PP

[glacial stratus]

+1 for style

[solid gust]

Being Polite, EH? Challenge details

• UK mainland and Ireland are the only required lands you need, their colonies are not required
• You must start and end the challenge as Canada, there is no using another nation, conquering canada, then releasing at the end
• There is no restriction on the path that you can take, but seeing as these are themed around changes from the War Effort, I'mma nudge you towards the Communist/fascist path with a certain demand to the UK
• Must be done in Ironman, no mods outside of graphical ones (Like FPS maps etc)
• Must be on the latest patch, no rollbacks (I was asked about this for the previous challenge so specifying it here)
• This challenge is NOT timed, this one is just about having fun. A Reminder that if you placed in the previous challenge winnings, you cannot win a 2nd time in a row. You can of course win again just not 2 times in a row, this ensures fairness and allows for others to have a chance of winning by participating.
• You cannot take land via peacedeal, it must be done by your own conquering, and subsequent puppeting.
• You must resolve the war for the entry to count, this only counts for the war against the UK, if you are still at war, you must show proof its not with anyone required for the challenge.
• Bonus points if you create a faction named 'Chak's Dominions' (This is a joke, buuuuut I wanna see someone do it )

[glacial stratus]

congrats to the winners

[glacial stratus]

same question

[signal frost]

So no going alt history, having UK go monarchist/fascist, and then going ham as democratic Canada as you liberate the UK from itself?

Turn off historical, set all countries but UK to historical. Stay Ironman in the process

[solid gust]

You are of course allowed to, I am more nudging towards War Effort changes though

I don't usually place restrictions on the ideology of the nation outside of very specific challenges, eg: Caliphate of Cordoba requires fascist

[signal frost]

Ah

Maybe I can get style points for being the sole democratic submission as who would want to do that lol

[solid gust]

If you can prove you did it legit without cheesing everything, technically yes, but I require you to show how you did the challenge if it is something insane like taking 2 days for a challenge or something

[signal frost]

Eh, i will complete the newfoundland focus, that was part of the war effort patches

[solid gust]

I don't generally condone Speedrunning, or abusing things that are broken in the game

[glacial stratus]

so this is basically a speedrun on puppeting 🇬🇧 and 🇮🇪 , got it

[swift jackal]

What's the ruling on music and localization mods that don't change checksum?

[solid gust]

do they allow for achievements?

[swift jackal]

Yes

[solid gust]

then ur fine

as long as it doesnt break achievement compatibility you should be fine in general, unless I specifically mention it