challenge-questions

[heavy kayak]

shjt, 2 mins left

collab almost done

35s

[mighty elm]

call it

[heavy kayak]

oops

nvm

that said, @mighty elm send me your save game pls

I want to learn

[solid gust]

thats it, you didnt finish the run in time

you owe me your soul

[heavy kayak]

I am a minute slow I guess

[solid gust]

i mean what

I took your previous run into account since it was late :p

[heavy kayak]

actually

since I deleted my other run

should have removed me from the list

I already have all the packs anyway

just enjoyed the challenges

might skip this Germany one tho

I hate playing Germany

[solid gust]

I've been trying to cook up non super specific challenges that everyone can do, but until the start of next year, the challenges gonna stay somewhat nordic focused

Don't need to claim a prize then, no worries Sheep

[heavy kayak]

can someone else claim it if I send them my save? and they submit it and you wouldn't know?

[solid gust]

are you trying to criminal syndicate my challenges

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-sus-the-rock-meme-the-rock-sus-meme-gif-23972805

[heavy kayak]

I am in bad mood for an unrelated reason right now

so I might

[solid gust]

tsk tsk stop it

[austere latch]

I smell paradrop and naval invasions go brrrrrr

[dusty yoke]

1945 is fast right

[mighty elm]

no thats a year or number

[signal frost]

Random question, does Sweden still start with En Svensk Tiger or whatever it is that increases war goal justify time?

[tame onyx]

hey

@solid gust is it okay to just capitulate them

or

do i need to have their all territories

[solid gust]

has to be conquered

[tame onyx]

so?

they are all capitulated but some of the land is

still there

does it count or not?

[solid gust]

you have to own it

not just capitulated

[tame onyx]

IDK WHY BUT THIS LAKE PROVINCE STAYED 😭

DOES IT NOT COUNT

[solid gust]

looks like the game said no, you'll have to conquer that bit too

[tame onyx]

its literally impossible tho

you cannot enter units in lakes

[pseudo bear]

probably bc they did not capitulate yet

[tame onyx]

💀

[pseudo bear]

i mean all allies

[tame onyx]

ah cmon man

conquering all allies for 1 lake province

seems fair

[pseudo bear]

yeah

[tame onyx]

ITS GONE

would this count?

@solid gust

@pseudo bear

[pseudo bear]

Idk

Ask @solid gust

Oh wait you already Pinged him

[tame onyx]

already pinged him

do i need to end the war or smthng

[solid gust]

Let's chill on the pings for me, its a lil' past my workday already

However if all the nordics are gone and have no land, that seems fine

[tame onyx]

thx

[violet phoenix]

Does the new puppet states count as conquered?

[glossy zinc]

I really like especially one mod: kaiserredux

The funny bullshit stuff this mod has to offer is big

[signal frost]

I find it funny how Iceland just got kicked out of the Nordic club

[barren furnace]

uhh does the challenge need arms against tyrrany? i dont have any DLC and i want to win this

[mighty elm]

This one doesn't require dlc

[heavy kayak]

@solid gust im done with your side challenge do you need me to annex the African puppets as well?

[fervent harness]

@torpid juniper no peace conference allowed

[signal frost]

Where does it say that

[fervent harness]

all other territory conquest challenges had this limitation, why wouldn't this one?

[solid gust]

Conquest challenges typically restrict peace deals, correct

However, I forgot to explicitly mention that which is my fault, I was running a bit late yesterday

I will update it accordingly, my apologies

[mighty elm]

Do we also have to conquer Jan mayen/greenland?

[knotty solstice]

if someone wins a music/armor pack. can that person chose a pre-order bonus?

[solid gust]

It cannot be a preorder bonus, no.

[solid gust]

mm, I typically leave it out but you can if you want

[fervent harness]

I don't think so because it involves a peace conference

[glad vector]

as I understand it, peace conferences in themselves are not a problem. What is meant is the countries need to be conquered, and not annexed or puppeted through a peace conference that triggered when you capitulated a major such as the UK.

[ebon torrent]

I’d do this but I own all dlc is there a reward for people who do own all dlc and packs

[knotty solstice]

how can I change my challenge submission?

[fervent harness]

just delete it

[knotty solstice]

thx

[solid gust]

If you win, you are free to choose a dlc to give to a friend or family member

[solid gust]

@steady kraken I will answer your question here, rather than DM's.

You have to conquer everything yourself, you do not annex it/puppet it.

[steady kraken]

Ok cool 👌

[lavish solstice]

But how would u tell

[solid gust]

There is a level of trust given, but I also have a few speedrunners in my dm's who will confirm things if they are possible or not

if there is something fishy with a submission as well there are plenty of people who will make it known

[steady kraken]

Some other questions too

a) the final time is the date the final nordic nations caps or the date i occupy all states

b) do i have to occupy all states (jan mayer island for norway, the big island for sweeden, faroe, greenland and the baltic see island for denmark) or just cap them?

[solid gust]

Answered the second question partly above, you need to conquer everything but greendland/jan mayen
#challenge-questions message

And the first question's answer is when you own the states yourself

[solid gust]

I answer questions related to the challenge here, @rocky granite, not in my dms so that everyone can see if they have similar questions.

The 'no peace deals' means that you cannot capitulate a major of the allies and then annex territory of the nordic nations to achieve the goal of the challenge. Its one form of 'cheesing' these challenges that is universally frowned upon by most participants and so we dont allow it

[solid gust]

You do not have to conquer Iceland, no, unless you want to

[solid gust]

It does not, though I replied here #challenge-questions message that I was rewording it to include the stipulation of no peace deals

I don't look at the submissions till nearing the end as people submit, then delete and resubmit. There is still another week to the challenge so I will poke my head in every now and again

[sand mason]

What if you want to wait for another dlc

[solid gust]

The prize is dictated from the day you win, there is no waiting for a new dlc to become available

[sand mason]

🗿

[barren furnace]

is the challenge still ongoing?

[heavy kayak]

ye, 2 weeks each, you still have days ahead

[barren furnace]

good

and right now the sudenten demand failed, its 1937💀

but sweden under my control!

[worthy vapor]

Does conquered mean just capitulated? or do you have to control everything

[solid gust]

Conquer means you must control it

[heavy kayak]

@steel token #challenge-submissions message

the majority of cosmetic/music mods do not affect gameplay and are perfectly ironman compatible

@worthy vapor just hover/click on the trophy icon just to be sure

[lavish solstice]

But its anime 💀

[heavy kayak]

oi oi don't discriminate

[steel token]

anyone who uses an anime mod pack should not rob

[steel token]

https://tenor.com/view/he-said-insult-anime-insult-gif-4403325390895216156

[heavy kayak]

don't prompt me to do the challenge in 36 with anime icons on

actually, it is kinda cringe

[steel token]

noooooo

[heavy kayak]

ngl, they look weird

[lavish solstice]

I just realised

Theyre about to cap

Just to make the run a bit earlier

[heavy kayak]

big brain

I would give him the trophy

[steel token]

noooooo

@heavy kayak what is the battle plan on ur banner

[worthy vapor]

Yeah ik and i did as you can see its ironman compatible

[heavy kayak]

Ah yeah you did

Ye

Thats a good run

Did you capitulate in the end tho?

[worthy vapor]

Nah

Just spam divisions but u can hold

But i had like 200k gun deficit

[barren furnace]

wait does this challenge require achievements allowed??? Because I'm somewhat bad

[worthy vapor]

Yes

U need ironman

[mighty elm]

@steel token i like the assumption that the general pics are "most likely" a mod lol

whats the percent chance thats its actually just an ingame mechanic?

[steel token]

it’s in game

paratroopers and offensive lines

[signal frost]

Yes, no cheating

[barren furnace]

i wasnt going to cheat, i even had Ironman mode on but easiest diffuculty

[signal frost]

Nope, must allow achievements and do the full challenge

[barren furnace]

well anyone know ANY good strategys, im more of a noob at this than ametur

[fervent harness]

@worthy vapor how you manage to get norway to capitulate in AAT?

Same question for @torpid juniper

[torpid juniper]

invade sweden first

entire front

take the 2 imporrtant north cities

[fervent harness]

but norway does not join the faction with AAT activated

[torpid juniper]

I have all DLCs on latest version and they do join faction

[fervent harness]

me too

[torpid juniper]

im confused what your problem is

even if they dont join a faction

they will still capitulate

[fervent harness]

but you need to annex they if they capitulate without a fac

[torpid juniper]

you can still do that for the challenge

I think

that rule is to prevent someone from having them join the allies and just capitulating UK without actually fighting the nordic countries

[vernal magnet]

is lake finland a problem?

[torpid juniper]

the admin was asked this earlier

he said you need to take it

but I think he mis understood the problem

im assuming you dont need it since needing to ruin the entire challenge and just makes it a who can kill allies quickest challenge

[vernal magnet]

how do you even do that 😄

yeah, i mean taking the lake

[torpid juniper]

you have to annex it in peace deal

[vernal magnet]

@solid gust does lake finland matter? it's a visual glitch that apparently only gets fixed by annexing

[solid gust]

show me the rest of the map area

if its just a visual glitch its fine but I'd like to see the rest of the area

[vernal magnet]

@solid gust

[solid gust]

no need to ping, but yes that is fine

[vernal magnet]

ah, sorry. and thanks for clearing that up!

[worthy vapor]

Its random

I got the lake for example

Btw i am assuming u did the challenge in 36 right? Its def possible but im really not good at speedrunning

[fringe jetty]

i have jusited vs what remain. but i canot declear war?

HOW?

[mighty elm]

Oh it's bc you just ended a war and can't for the next 6 months

If you look at the diplomacy stuff on the left column the flag icon at the bottom there indicates a truce

[fringe jetty]

oh, thanks for explaing

[faint patrol]

Have a good economy with Turkey

[vernal magnet]

@solid gust i would like to submit an entry to the challenge, but don't want to take prices away from the community. i also have all hoi4 content already anyway. but i like leaderboards. what do?

[solid gust]

if you do not want a prize, that is fine, if you retain first place you may either give 2nd place your prize or grab one for a friend.

I've had people ask to give their prize to the second place winner on a few occasions so I do not mind

[vernal magnet]

great, thank you!

[solid gust]

till tomorrow when I read through all entries, I start work at 8am EST so base the amount of time you have left on that time frame

[silk raptor]

Is this a good Infantry Division?

[upbeat swan]

How did that guy beat the challenge under a year?

Did France refused Rhineland?

[vernal magnet]

Fuehrer Directive 25

[fervent harness]

Until then I was in a mandela effect thinking that your video of Germany defeating allies in 36 was almost 2 years old

[upbeat swan]

Ohh that makes sense ..

I hope that yugo event isn't locked behind dlc, i will try it but i do have some plan tricky plans involving early war with the USSR

[vernal magnet]

it's available in the base game as far as i know

[vernal magnet]

two years... damn. time flies. i'm changing a couple of things about work in order to have some more time for recording and editing. i'd love to publish more

[heavy kayak]

didn't they patch it by adding increased requirement and increased nonaligned desire not to get invited through diplomatic pressure though? it took forever even with 2 spies to lower their join_faction limit from 40% to 23%, and still get blocked by fascism support

I suggested Peter's Coup exploit at the start of the challenge as well but people told me YUG wouldn't join either

[vernal magnet]

Don't to try to make them join. That's not doable afaik due to their opinion modifiers. You need to dismantle Axis and create a faction with YUG 🙂

[heavy kayak]

Ah

Opinion Modifier isn't actually that bad

Still cheesable

But create faction probably skips popularity requirement I see

[vernal magnet]

Yes, you only need to slightly increase relations and spike tension

[heavy kayak]

Hmm, I am surprised it took you by NOV then

[heavy kayak]

Ye that looks better

40 25 25 25 90, should be doable in 205 days minimum hmm

Or not, probably not

[vernal magnet]

I thought it might be too much cheese to take out Allies first and went with a run in which I just ignored them and only went for the Nordics.

[vernal magnet]

20 Denmark, 55 Sweden, 15 Finland, 15 Norway

Or something like that, can't recall exactly

[heavy kayak]

oh you can get to 15? Even at 100 WT I only get 25

[vernal magnet]

Backroom Stabber

-25% justification time

[heavy kayak]

Oh

[heavy kayak]

I see clearly don't play them enough

[vernal magnet]

Backroom Stabber is available for most countries, but because it's called "Subversive Activities Cost: -25%" it's not really obvious how useful the guy is

[heavy kayak]

I normally don't play fascist country anw, the most recent speedrun I have done is speedrunning sov challenge as fin on 39 or killing US as Mex in 37

But it is just waiting for Winter War

Quite a number of countries don't have Backroom Backstabber, SOV has a different one for Opposition though

[vernal magnet]

Yeah, "most countries" was probably an overstatement and reflects what countries I play too much 😄

On that topic: back to grinding Italy WC

[heavy kayak]

Nah, "quite a number don't have" might be an overstatement too and just reflect countries I play too much

Lemme actually count later

[heavy kayak]

non-generic countries with Backroom Backstabber:

GRE ROM GER CZE LIT LAT EST ENG FRA DEN RAJ AST CHI XSM ITA

so 15

27 doesn't have

[sonic wyvern]

thats so rigged

was gonna beat the time but sweden for some reason uncapitulated and became whole again

[solid gust]

absolute

(it took me 4 tries to write that?! lmao)

the one I wanna see is hinted at in the news post 😉

Though I may allow constitutional monarchies, will have to think about it so that the challenge isn't too demanding for some

[drowsy parrot]

Is there any requirement in which difficulty the challenge has to be completed?

[solid gust]

has to be at least able to get achievements

so normal and above

[drowsy parrot]

Okay

[solid gust]

I usually slip in my preferred thing into the announcements if I can, but nah, there was only one I personally wanted to see in mind this time

[keen venture]

Is Wojtek the only "hard monarchy"? Or does Kaiserin Victoria count aswell?

[solid gust]

she counts as well

[lavish solstice]

By no time requirement, do u mean that the winner wont be chosen based on time?

[solid gust]

winner is not chosen based on time, correct

the harder to get the monarch is, the higher standing it gets

if there are multiple of the same monarch, then it'll be based on time but only to break the tie

oh it's how hard it is to get the monarch not the conquests?

yes, exactly

if there are multiple people getting wojtek then its not an instant win

but i dont think everyone will go for him, people can Bear-ly stand the path to get him

[heavy kayak]

nah ngl I think there are more people with Wojtek than with Queen Elizabeth

or if God will it, then perhaps Tsar Joseph I, but he was deleted before he even came into reality

[glad vector]

Some less likely monarchs to get are: Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, Hungary, Finland, Greece. Some more likely monarchs: Germany, UK, France, Russia, Poland, Italy

[upbeat swan]

really? austria hungary seems so frequent in mp

Portugal too is really easy and people tend to choose it a lot

[glad vector]

getting portugese monarch -> easy. Conquering europe with them -> hard

[signal frost]

Question, does having a monarch as a national spirit count as having a monarch?

[glad vector]

Would the Pope count as a monarch?

[lucid cliff]

Think so

[signal frost]

I am unsure

I was personally thinking of doing revoke Acerbo Law

and go Christian Democracy

[solid gust]

I will allow it for this challenge 🙂

[signal frost]

Chak, does having the King as a national spirit count

[heavy kayak]

wait any monarchy will do

does that mean

[signal frost]

That way Democratic Hungary would work lol

[heavy kayak]

I can do it with Nepal?

[solid gust]

has to be your country leader, not national spirit

[signal frost]

F Democratic Hungary

Democratic Italy, here we go though

[heavy kayak]

to anyone who might look for it, these are the following monarchies or members of royalty that are not by default accessible or very very unpopular

ENG

• George VI (dies in 1941-1942)
• Queen Elizabeth II (and her corgis)

SOV:

• Tsar Joseph I

FRA

• Henri VI

ITA & puppets:

• Amedeo (AOI)
• Aimone (Croatia)

GRE:

• George II (pretty handsome btw)
• Do we count Adolfos I?

ICE:

• Knud I

NOR:

• Queen Mathilde I

FIN:

• Hesse

USA:

• William Wallis or sth

[signal frost]

So strategy is play unhistorical, let the UK annex you, let them do the decision to get Wallis

and then you conquer Europe as Wallis lol

[heavy kayak]

@solid gust putting asides the problem of Adolfos I being Hitler, is he acceptable?

[solid gust]

if he is a king then yes its fine

[heavy kayak]

well, since any monarchy will do, not just European Monarchies, I suppose Ethiopian monarchy works too?

[solid gust]

any country's monarchy, yes, so long as the leader is the monarch

[signal frost]

I presume Norway can't do the challenge

Because the King is just chilling while the other guy does everything

[heavy kayak]

nah nah do Queen Mathilde

[solid gust]

unfortunately, you are correct here

[worthy vapor]

Does the admiral in the north also count as an monarch?

[heavy kayak]

nah he is just an admiral

[signal frost]

I don't know if he is King or not

[heavy kayak]

so Prince doesn't count?

[solid gust]

wdym

[worthy vapor]

But he gets crowned

So like idk

[heavy kayak]

oh if you can make a point for it

I think it will work?

just send the event image

where it says he is crowned

probably the most difficult to obtain monarch is Tsar Joseph I

[solid gust]

does he?

[heavy kayak]

[solid gust]

I dont fully remember if he does or not, but if he is crowned king then it technically does count

[heavy kayak]

this is the event

[solid gust]

mm I don't think so

[worthy vapor]

Missread it

Welp

Sadge

[fervent harness]

@solid gust Can I pass my prize on to third place?

[solid gust]

if you want to, sure!

[worthy vapor]

[heavy kayak]

oh fk I just made a mistake while doing this

loaded back to my ironman save with debug on and it forcibly removed ironman out of the save

fk

4 hours

[heavy kayak]

like,

Yugoslavia starting leader

Prince Paul

or Prince Amedeo of East Africa

[signal frost]

You can get Peter to the throne

[heavy kayak]

or Prince Aimone of Croatia

[glad vector]

best choice is ofc Haile Selassi, King of Kings 🙂

[solid gust]

mmm, I don't think I would count Prince Paul as 'difficult' for the sake of this challenge, but I will accept Prince Amedeo since its outside of Europe and it'll be slightly more diffucult to conquer Europe with

[fervent harness]

So I have the arduous task of choosing a DLC of choice for @worthy vapor

[heavy kayak]

was just using him as an example

since you probably know him better than Aimone

or Amedeo

[worthy vapor]

Firstly thanks i really appreciate it, but it aint that arouous, the only dlc that i dont have is bftb

[solid gust]

mind opening up a ticket with pdx bot so I can request your winnings key? (I totally didn't forget to mention that in the announcement for prize claimings nope, not at all)

[worthy vapor]

Done

[umbral latch]

For the challenge we need to be in ironman ?

[solid gust]

yes

[dense oar]

For the challenge do we have to get Russia?

[solid gust]

hmm, not all of it, but some, yes

[jaunty bronze]

can i use road to 56?

[worthy vapor]

U have to have achievements available so no

[jaunty bronze]

ok thx

[worthy vapor]

U can only use aesthetical mods

[jaunty bronze]

ok thx

[sonic wyvern]

would japan count as a monarchy

[worthy vapor]

They have a shogun and he basically has no power so no i dont think so

[sonic wyvern]

alr

[dense oar]

Is this also going to be a timed thing?

[wraith sand]

Will this also need to be a "no peace deals" challenge, or is it ok for this one?

[solid gust]

It is mentioned in the announcement that it is not a time challenge, though if there are 2 runs with the same difficult leader, time may be taken into account, but most likely to keep it fair I will have someone other than myself choose a number at random to win

and the no peace deals does not count for this one, as its not a timed conquest one, no

[umbral latch]

It's just non aligned or it's a king or a queen

Like the Cossack king is a king so

[fervent harness]

I think the challenge will be accepted even if made by a Middle Eastern country

the challenge only says monarchy

[umbral latch]

Like the Swiss non aligned path is counting or nah

How do we know for exemple I can play Ireland go non aligned and idk if it's a monarchy or no

So turkey sultan path is not valid

So Brasil, British Raj, Afghanistan ect aren't valid ?

Liberia 💀

But how do I know if a country with a basic focus tree and I go non aligned it's a king or nah like it's confusing if I go for Ukraine and non aligned it's a monarchy, an empire, a sultanate, a council lol

[heavy kayak]

Afghanistan might actually be valid

since he is a Shah

same as with the King of Nepal

[umbral latch]

I want to play a wtf country for this challenge like occitania but I don't think it's valid lol

[limber glen]

if anyone could help me understand the game cuz im new just dm me

[umbral latch]

Like occitania, sami, Ukraine or Scotland can be fun lol but if I go non aligned what is it

Wtf there is not a monarchist things on the advisor in my mind there was nooo

[fervent harness]

Countries where the government is/possible monarchy
Europe:
-Portugal
-Spain
-France
-Germany
-Netherlands
-Italy
-Yugoslavia
-Romania
-Bulgaria
-Greece
-Albania
-Hungary
-Poland
-Lithuania
-Sweeden
-Denmark
Africa:
-Ethiopia
-Aussa
Asia:
-Russia
-Saudi arabia
-Iraq
-Iran
-Afghanistan
-Tibet
-Manchukuo
-Japan
-Siam
-Turkey
-Nepal
-Bhutan
Americas:
-Brazil

Let me know if I forgot any country

[umbral latch]

Any releasable country can't be done in this challenge ?

A constitutional monarchy is still a monarchy

[fervent harness]

yep

[umbral latch]

Iceland ?

No

[torpid juniper]

this is the dumbest conversation ever a monarchy is a monarchy

[fervent harness]

so not as a monarchy but as a monarch

[heavy kayak]

Finland and Iceland too

[umbral latch]

Wtf like it's still a king lol

[heavy kayak]

Croatia as well

[umbral latch]

Yes ik but even a constitutional monarchy is ruled by a king

[heavy kayak]

I know what he is trying to say but it is still one of the strangest arguments of the day

@solid gust what do you think though?

[umbral latch]

Who

[heavy kayak]

strange argument

here is your Norway

I see no problem with it

I assume it would work as long as you can prove your king rules

[fervent harness]

he should at least update the term monarchy to absolute monarchy

[heavy kayak]

which would actually be quite an issue

we don't actually have a lot of absolute monarchy left by the actual constitution they draft

besides the generic Asian ones

you might even argue King's Party is not absolute monarchy

based on jon's argument

that because the King was just there

instead of actually doing something

which also by default rules out Wojtek

[umbral latch]

Oh I didn't know that window exist okkkk so Cossack king is a king ?

[heavy kayak]

lol that guy is defo a king

one of the very few fascist kings in the entire game

[umbral latch]

SO Occitania is playable for this challenge

[heavy kayak]

who is their leader again?

[fervent harness]

This rule also excludes Simeon from Bulgaria

theoretically he is not doing anything other than being in the council portrait

[heavy kayak]

wait, but achievement for This is getting childish

clearly says "when both countries are ruled by a child"

still ruling there

I say he counts

[fervent harness]

with that point yes

[heavy kayak]

eh

not all despotism = monarchy, no

i was just showing that because Haakon was also a king

it literally says King Haakon

[umbral latch]

Base Poland it's not valid so it's an oligarchy

Yes but in occitania it's a generic leader

So we can't know

[heavy kayak]

then I doubt he counts

since all monarchies in this world are known and recorded

at least the ones in the last century

[umbral latch]

Bro is a random people on the population

[heavy kayak]

not a monarch then

he could just be really powerful

[umbral latch]

Actually monarchist occitania is named kingdom of aquitaine

[heavy kayak]

does it actually get the name?

[umbral latch]

Yep

See on the screen

Scotland too

[heavy kayak]

oh

kek

it might actually be valid if you can make it nonaligned

but might need to confirm with Chak on that

[umbral latch]

If I go France non aligned and then release me as a puppet and go out of puppet system

[heavy kayak]

since you can have nonaligned monarch rule by someone else with the king being figurehead

looking at you, Elizabeth

[fervent harness]

Does anyone disagree that Mussolini counts?

[heavy kayak]

defo disagree

he has nothing to claim he was a king

[umbral latch]

Mussolini isn't a king for me lol

[heavy kayak]

but hmm

[fervent harness]

is the roman empire a monarchy?

[umbral latch]

What Duce actually mean

[heavy kayak]

if Emperor Mussolini doesn't count, then neither does Adolfos huh

[umbral latch]

It's an empire

But technically if we play with king Emmanuelle and go for the Roman empire formable mmmh

Yes I think

[heavy kayak]

ye that counts

[signal frost]

Mussolini does not count

[umbral latch]

We can also go with kingdom of Bohemia if we do the path to make them a kingdom we eat them and release them as a puppet

[signal frost]

The King has to be leader

Also I am pissed

I lost Fume for like 5 seconds

and now I have perpetual loss of authority

Sometimes, I hate playing Italy

[solid gust]

okay, to clear everything up ( I was finished my workday about 4 hours ago so I haven't been looking at the discord)

• Almost any monarchy is allowed, so long as the person ruling is a monarch, and it has to be a king/ queen or equivalent, not a prince. So Shah's I believe are allowed, yes.
• Non-aligned does not necessarily mean monarchy, though it is used sometimes with it
• If you form the HRE, then whichever leader is the leader of the HRE is technically a monarch and can be valid.
• Pope is valid
• If the 'monarch' is only a figurehead, like one of the nordic country's monarchist path, it does not count, they have to be the figurehead AND person making the decisions, not a puppet or symbol.
• Wojtek counts
• The challenge was supposed to be absolute monarchist, though if youcan find a good argument for certain constitutional monarchs to count, you may present it and I'll see if we can squeeze them in. (For the purpose of the challenge, it was decided to be absolute monarchy since they hold all the power, which is the intention of the challenge, one figurehead, one ruler, one person making the decisions etc)

The challenge is supposed to encourage people to find the easter egg monarchs scattered in the game, but so long as you rule with an absolute monarchy you can participate

(typing while hand is frozen is quite hard, excuse any spelling errors)

[umbral latch]

And if the name of the country is like kingdom of ... It's valid ? Like a country with no focus tree if we release for exemple occitania it become kingdom of aquitaine is a kingdom so technically is valid ?

[solid gust]

if the kingdom has a monarch as the head, and not a government that makes the decisions instead of them, yes releasables are allowed

[umbral latch]

Like Sami isn't allowed but a country with a generic leader and kingdom is allowed if I have understand?

It will be loooooooong but fun and hard let's do that

[solid gust]

if its a generic KING/QUEEN yes its fine

[umbral latch]

How do I know 😭

Sorry for being dumb 💀

[solid gust]

does it say

king XYZ

queen XYZ

if answer is yes, its good

if its a specific leader that is from the history books that is known to be a king/queen, then its also fine

or was a royal and you've turned them into a king/queen

[umbral latch]

But generic leader have generic name there is just there name

Like I got just his name on the portrait

[solid gust]

for the sake of the challenge, if you form a Kingdom with a generic leader, assume they are a king/queen

[umbral latch]

Let's gooo

It will be so hard to do monarchist occitania and go out of the puppet things but it will be fun lol

[signal frost]

Democratic King Italy is fine, right?

[barren furnace]

does this require achivements allowed. last time i gave up on the challenge being too hard for me

DLC shouldnt be needed so ik that

[dense oar]

It needs to be in ironman

[signal frost]

Ironman, and must have achievements be able to be had

[heavy kayak]

@signal frost tf you look so different with pfp changed

took me a sec

hmm, tho

I wonder if anybody is going to do every single monarch

gotta be wild conquering Europe as Nepal

[pseudo goblet]

Bhutan would be even harder

[barren furnace]

Well... I'm going to lose, even with Great Britan

[lavish solstice]

Whats the difference between absolute monarchy and constitutional

[signal frost]

I got sick of getting my pfp compared to an electrical socket or a certain site...

So I posted a selfie (I am real life stickman, no muscles almost 6ft yet weight 120 lbs)

[lavish solstice]

Wait ur the yellow socket guy???

:O u changed

What did u use to make ur pfp

[pseudo goblet]

Aye u changed your pfp

[umbral latch]

As albania

[heavy kayak]

[flint river]

with the DLC in the starter pack what country's can have a monarch

[heavy kayak]

what is the starter pack

[flint river]

HOI4 and 5 DLCs

these DLC i think

Expansion - Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor, Expansion - Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory, Expansion - Hearts of Iron IV: Waking the Tiger, Hearts of Iron IV

[heavy kayak]

DoD WTT TFV huh

Hungary has Otto von Habsburg / Fritz Franz sth sth Swleiswig sth sth fascist guy

Romania has Carol II and Michael

Bulgaria starts with Boris III

Yugoslavia has Peter II

Italy can form Roman Empire and makes Mussolini an emperor

Ethiopia, Afar, Iran, Afghanistan, Nepal, Bhutan, Siam, Saudi Arabia, Iraq starts with a monarch

Germany has Victoria, Wilhelm II and Wilhelm III

Norway's nonaligned leader is a king

[flint river]

oh yep, thanks

[pale agate]

Europe includes ussr too, right?

[flint river]

me after realizing

would puppets also be accepted if its a focus

[pale agate]

I think Imma try tsar fardinand

or Ottoman Sultan/Sultana

[umbral latch]

Is puppet counting ?

[fluid mantle]

Does uniting Europe as Jan Mayen count?

[worthy vapor]

He isnt a king sadly

[fluid mantle]

Aw

[solid gust]

• Jan Mayen doesn't count, unfortunately, since they are not a king
• Puppeting can count, but no more than 2 are allowed
• A portion of the USSR is needed as well

[fierce ruin]

2 question

Can the starter country be not in europe
Is hirohito considered a monarch ?

[dense oar]

Just wondering does anybody know how hard it would be to do the Carlist France path would be?

[signal frost]

MS Paint lol

It has a unique style which I find funny

[lavish solstice]

Break that down a bit more?

Im not familiar with monarchs

Oh

Thanks

[glad vector]

first submission is in 😎

[signal frost]

So I assume that having countries puppeted doesn't count for conquering Europe?

[solid gust]

you can have up to 2 puppets

i give some leeway since kings/queens did usually have vassals

[lime hornet]

does it have to be a european monarchy or can it be some other continents monarchy

[dense oar]

Any

[fluid mantle]

can i do it as albania?

[dense oar]

How many attempts did it take you?

[heavy kayak]

Italy probably once or twice

never forget that they could form Rome before 39 before BBA and control over half of the world

[dense oar]

Dude I'm on my 6th attempt and second country

[umbral latch]

Occitania is so hard I have to release myself to a puppet it's so long bruh

[glad vector]

First

Italy is not that hard if you expand fast enough

[uncut crater]

Facts

Italy is hella ez if u expand rapidly

It just depends on the timing

[dense oar]

This challenge is hard

[grave ginkgo]

does augustus mussolini count?

[heavy kayak]

Apparently he does

[glad vector]

Kaiser wilhelm or kaiserin victoria might be easier - its difficult to beat germany these days

A friend is doing Ferdinand of Bulgaria

[fervent harness]

Bro is the opposite of his great grandfather

[dense oar]

Yeah that's what I'm doing. I tried Poland, France, and romaina. They all failed

[nocturne beacon]

BRAZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[heavy kayak]

well, you can try Cossack Poland in nonhis with Germany and Soviet both having civil war

[dense oar]

Dude I tried that

That was the Poland I was going for

[heavy kayak]

I see,

well, I guess we gotta lower the difficulty

that said I don't see any issue with it

[dense oar]

I mean. On non-historical Germany never did their civil war every time I tried it

[heavy kayak]

ah seeded

there is probably a seed for each day + app instance

which determines roughly where every countries go

[stiff geode]

|For some reaason my divisions won't use this updated tank model to resupply, they will only use the M42 Maark 2 but not the Mark 3 even tho I have 4000 of those in storage, what have I done wrong here?

[heavy kayak]

if they keep doing Hitler,

just close game, try later

you will sometimes see some countries doing the same path on different nonhis due to seed

[dense oar]

They might be using the older models before they use the older ones

[stiff geode]

I don't follow

[dense oar]

Other than that I don't know

Could be a bug

[stiff geode]

Yes

They've been standing on a well supplied port for week now.

it was a bug!

Let me show you

You see the little 2? That was stuck at 1 for some reason, when I unchecked and checked it it updated to 2/2

Idk what caused it to get stuck on 1/2 but it doesn't matter. Thanks Alexy!

<3

[fervent harness]

Probably the stupidest question in this challenge, can I put it in the game rules for Portugal to go on a monarchist path?

[signal frost]

If you still get achievements, then you are fine, but I doubt it

[dense oar]

@heavy kayak what's the best way to play Poland in your opinion if Germany and Russia both have a civil war?

[heavy kayak]

Cossack

Justify on Provisional Germany before they defeat Nazi Germany, though you might need some luck to have it finished on time

Otherwise just declare on them anyway then justify on nazi

When USSR has civil war, justify on either one, immediately justify on the other one after you declare war

[dense oar]

Ok

[molten spruce]

Invade Czechoslovakia

It's thw answer for everything

If you just invade czeckoslovakia all ur problems dissappear

[worthy vapor]

@tired oriole u realize that u could have just played as germany to conquer europe to release yourself as albania and then conquer germany?

That would be so much faster and easier

[heavy kayak]

[hoary urchin]

By the way do you need to be nonaligned for the challenge or do you just need to have a monarch in your government in some way (so for like Italy or manually changing ideology after going no Bulgaria)

Non aligned Bulgaria (just because you can keep the tsar’s national spirit)

[heavy kayak]

nonaligned isn't necessary but the monarch must be the leader themselves

for example, Cossack King or Emperor Mussolini are allowed

or Hirohito

[worthy vapor]

Hirohito isnt allowed

It must be an absolute monarchy

[heavy kayak]

he is the leader of the nation

you can make the case for it

Hideki Tojo doesn't exist here

neither does his cabinet

Almost any monarchy is allowed, so long as the person ruling is a monarch, and it has to be a king/ queen or equivalent, not a prince. So Shah's I believe are allowed, yes.

[heavy kayak]

I think you are just being weird at this point

otherwise you can also make the argument that Wojtek doesn't work because he cannot rule by himself as a bear

[solid gust]

I allowed hirohito either way for the people to be able to participate, though its not necessarily a winning one since the point of the challenge is to find the easter egg leaders 🙂

[heavy kayak]

there aren't many hidden leaders though

[solid gust]

there are not no, but there are not 100's of people trying to win the challenge

The challenges are for people looking for something fun/difficult to do :p

[heavy kayak]

that said, there are indeed some very strange characters in the file that I need to investigate

like the father

perhaps he actually exists

nvm

[solid gust]

me when i wake up in the morning

[umbral latch]

@worthy vapor hoooow do you become a kingdom with Prussia like there is no guy for boost the non aligned

But if I release it it's like democratic by default

[torpid juniper]

Getting banned speedrun

[broken moth]

do puppets count as well or do i have to directly own every state in europe?

[torpid juniper]

he said you can have 2 puppets

[broken moth]

well then i dont qualify lmao

[torpid juniper]

tbh if every bit of europe is under you or a puppet he probably will still count it since theres no time limit you technecially could just save up PP and allex them later

[fickle river]

considering this an interesting challenge i write down list of countries i consider interesting for the challenge

1. this is list of countries I consider interesting, it is not perfect (you can add your favourite ones)
2. cared mostly about their name, not really monarch, since there are not many unexplored, thus i dont know which ones are really acceptable for the challenge
3. tried to dodge countries with focus trees (most have their won monarchist path), because this is about exploring (right?)

Asia
Japan (obvious, both n and f ideologies)
Manchukuo, Mengkukuo
Indochina (some are kingdoms - Kingdom of Laos + Rattanakosin formable)
Korea (actually have a monarch and ruling party is his dynasty)
Polynesia formable
Bhutan, Nepal, maybe evn Tibet (who knows)

Middle east
Iran/Persia (just shah)
Iraq (Ghazi)
Abdulaziz/Arabia, Yemen, maybe oman
Palestine (prince Henry, but being prince who knows), Releasables (Jordan, Syria)

Africa
Morocco (Mohamed V)/Andalusia
Egypt (Farouk)
Ethiopia (and its formables + some releasables)
Uganda (eu4 moments)
rest (Lybia, Zambia,...) + Mutapa formable

America
US (when EdwardVIII-> Wallis)
Gran Colombia (propably does not count, sa dlc please)
Costa rica, Haiti (sadly no mad king, krdx fans)

Europe
Scotland, Wales, if you manage even England
Luxembourg (it is just royalist, who knows), Belgium
Croatia, Bohemia, Basque, Occitania, all italian releasables, Prussia
Transylvania, Silesia, Kashubia
Formables:
Iberia, EU, brittish versions, Rome, 2.Rome, HRE, Baltics, Greater Greece+Macedonian maybe, North sea, baltics (through focuses), Franco-Spain, Austria-Hungary, PL commonwealth

now wich one is the best
and dont tell me noone wanted this list, i did not ask

[heavy kayak]

you don't know of Iceland yet, it seems

their king is not readily visible either

he comes from an event and locked in a path most people will not do

Norway also has an event queen

Finland monarch is technically a hidden focus

that's all though

only Elizabeth II and Victoria III are the other event-based country leaders

[fickle river]

1. i did not know about these
2. i do not own the dlc and in my expectations im not the only one (i tried to exclude dlc leaders exactly because of this; pope is also hidden, then you can have Vittorio EmanueleIII and then Benito, so many options and all accesible through focuses is why), but i guess event ones are legit if there is a way how to get them

[fervent harness]

Step 1: Annex the entire europe (not swiss and ussr) in 3 wars with allies
Step 2: fail to invade Switzerland

[dense oar]

Bro what happened?

[fervent harness]

I managed to get them in the end, the Swiss AI got 60 militia divisions and I had purposely left the south without troops to scatter them and enter the damn fortified mountains

[dense oar]

Ok that's makes sense

Also are you going HRE?

[fervent harness]

no, I'm just going to make Kaiser come back,to have something to put in the submissions, and then play like any other country and try to conquer Germany with him

[dense oar]

Ok

[fervent harness]

I don't even know how to form the HRE

[dense oar]

You need the kiserin and that unlocks a decision to form after you conquer land

There are some tutorials YouTube on it

[dense oar]

Is regini De la Costa a monarchy?

[fickle river]

it is reino (kingdom in spanish) so i guess

[dense oar]

Ok

[worthy vapor]

@fickle river there needs to ironman proof

[fickle river]

check the last picture

[worthy vapor]

How do you only have 18 factories?

[fickle river]

no cores, no compliance, low amount of factories in the world

[wraith sand]

Conquest with stronger nation, then release smaller nation after deleting all factories except in small nation is my estimate

[fickle river]

exactly

[dense oar]

Ok random question but I'm trying to conquer Germany in their civil war as Poland. I'm doing the cossak king. Do you know anyway to slow down the war?

[fickle river]

propably volunteers+ataché, but since they usually do it as a first focus i dont think you can do much

[restive cloud]

how to win two front war between poland and western allies with soviet and italy on my side as germany

and hungary as well with historical borders

[dense oar]

That's is so,so,so very complicated

[restive cloud]

I got into this situation by invading luxembourg

And going down soviet ally focus tree

[dense oar]

Can you send a screenshot in the asking for help here channel?

[restive cloud]

nah i lost the war. but am asking if it would be winnable

[dense oar]

It might

[fickle river]

it surely would, either rush the east and with the help of soviets push west or hold the reich and wait for allies to come to help

[restive cloud]

italy was kinda shit and civil warred like always but soviet fought on until moscow fell

japan also declared later so

[fickle river]

well you have to realize that you are Germany, noone should outproduce you except soviets (your ally) and later US

so even though you fight whole europe it should be winnable

[dense oar]

I've finally given up on this challenge

[restive cloud]

Took you that long

well an hour and a half and some change

[flat frost]

advertising

[flat frost]

ban this guy

this

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<@&846892188725673984>

[gilded fern]

Banned, give it a sec to delete

[flat frost]

Sorry may have overreacted lol

[weak sluice]

anyone got ideas that i should do on kaiserreich

[flat frost]

play as bhutan

Bhutan is a unique country with its own focus tree

[glad vector]

I'm already curious for the next challenge 🙂

[solid gust]

The holiday specials are starting, that is all im going to say....

[late blade]

are the reindeer units vanilla?

[solid gust]

unfortunately this one is for players with Arms Against Tyranny, the very next challenge should be able to be played by almost anyone

trying to make it so that there is one for AAT users and one for everyone right after it

[weak sluice]

IGH

[fickle river]

i conquered the world with Costa rica, made one of the smoothest borders in Americas (and world in general), gave existence to countries noone has ever seen and all i got was just recognition from legendary-infinity-hero and few others, even wilhem is higher ranked

There is nothing we can do

[solid gust]

Just because you did not win this one, does not mean you cannot win the next 🙂

Although the run was impressive, I will admit. I unfortunately cannot give everyone a win, and if I could add all the honourable mentions I would but can't have that many words in the announcements

[thorn scaffold]

I I have aquestion about the Population wachstum.

[solid gust]

I do not believe that is related to the current challenge, so i cannot answer that for you

[flint river]

That's a shame that if requires a DLC, better be prepared for the next challenge to get myself a DLC for coming 1st place.

I'm also waiting for a challenge that requires you to do something with a commonwealth or Chinese country

[solid gust]

I have one planned for january in china, don't you worry

[heavy kayak]

like what ?

Made in China?

as Communist China, have arms market sales contract with every starting major nations?

thats DLC tho

[glad vector]

The pope is displeased with your lack of faith 😆

[solar cove]

does the challenge mean that I should release Sapmi as Finland and play that? or just play Finland?

[solar cove]

also where is the Reindeer?

[restive cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826464137114681404/1182155605067169803/Screenshot_2023-12-06_at_8.44.41_PM.png?ex=6583ab33&is=65713633&hm=92a944c273bb4d4871ec3e87fae8fea8ace6c31bd91f7afd31e6763c0d263e98&

what would YOU do as germany in this scenario (dont ask how i got here)

(UK France and USA and poland and italy are allies)

also norway sweden spain finland russia are against you

and japan too japan has all of siberia and half of china

so

[solar cove]

send me the save so i can do a rescue😋

[restive cloud]

today ill finish this game so i can send it then show what i did

[solid gust]

I know Finland has a focus for it in their military branch (i think, I'm still waking up a bit), I believe the same goes for the Sapmi

[solar cove]

yeah I found the model in the finnish calv unit, but sapmi does not seem to have it

[solid gust]

hmm that is odd

perhaps do the focus and then swap over, if it doesn't work I will alter the rules of the challenge to fix it and make it so you only have to play finland

[solar cove]

ok i'll try

also for finland even w/o the focus you still have the reindeers

[tired oriole]

+1, tried it yesterday, after releasing sapmi reindeer model was gone

[glad vector]

ohh I thought you meant the reindeer icon

[solid gust]

I've reconfirmed with the other Community Team member on how to get the unit, and they've said it involves a lil' puppeting of a certain starting nation

[signal frost]

If this is what I think it is, I don't think I want to do this challenge

Oh wait, starting nation, whew

Also wheb do you get unit models from puppeting nations?

[solid gust]

i believe you get them when you take the units from them yourself, as the holder of the puppet nations are allowed to, but someone more knowledgeable than me could probably say more

[solar cove]

oh that works? i should redo mine

[solar cove]

this would be so challenging💀

[solar cove]

can you explain how it works? i still can't switch the model for the finnish puppet unit...

[terse goblet]

this is way too difficult lmfao

[solid gust]

You have to grab units from your puppet through volunteers i believe, not through switching the models. So you'd have to grab the research from the finland military tree and then create the Sami

When you then puppet finland you should have the option to demand troops from them

From what I know, Sweden should also have the reindeer units so if someone wanted to try and puppet them instead then that could also work.

[solid gust]

Some challenges are harder than others, though this one is indeed a little more involved

[solar cove]

do you mean the reindeer is a research item? I thought you mean the unit model

[solid gust]

i have a bad habit of saying research when i mean focus

there is a unit model but one has to do the focus to get it iirc

[solar cove]

you mean this one?

[solid gust]

this model would count yeah

[solar cove]

yeah this one does not require any focus, but the issue is that after I demand troop from Finland puppet I cannot change their model

[solar cove]

^this

[solid gust]

hmm, that is odd, I'll go ahead and ask the other CM team member about it tomorrow since we don't work on the weekends (its also why ive responded slowly my bad)

if anything, I will allow runs of finland with that model for now

[solid gust]

After having confirming some things with the other CM member, we've seen the issue with the challenge so I've made it simply just Finland as a requirement 🙂

[glad vector]

Finland, reindeer, berlin - check

[solid gust]

Originally it was going to be, since the difficulty would be in making the releasable nation in the first place and then puppeting, however since we've run into the issue of not being able to get the unit as an overlord to a finnish puppet, this makes the challenge quite a bit easier than intended

I would say fastest run without usage of paratroopers would win now, though

[glad vector]

I did it as democratic for more challenge 😉

which was REALLY challenging

[restive cloud]

[uneven blade]

what is this channel for

[rare hatch]

My biggest challenge is finding out what all the teams in this dicord are for

like what is community team

and paradoxian

and grandest lan organizer

[solid gust]

Paradoxians are Paradox employees, and the Community team like myself, who work for PDX, are the people who relay information on events, patches, dlc's and anything else we are doing to the playerbase, and your feedback back to the devs

And the Grandest lan organizers are people who organize the grandest lan that took place last month

[glad vector]

will there be a new challenge posted today (to keep us busy during the holidays?)

[solid gust]

yes there will, I am just making the assets first since I may or may not have woken up late today

...maybe

:p

[true bobcat]

i dont get why this is difficult, also how are you supposed to know who wins, whoever does it fastest?

[true bobcat]

also can we use graphic mods, and if we submit multible will the fastest be counted or should we only do one

[burnt bridge]

Pretty sure only ironman compatible mods are allowed. So @true bobcat graphics mods are fine as long as the game says achievements can be earned

[true bobcat]

sounds great

i assume its whoever does it fastest right?

also important: is non historical allowed

[solid gust]

Some challenges are more difficult than others, as the most challenging ones tend to not be done by most people, so I try to go middle of the road, this one is a little easier since its the holidays.

As for the other question, graphical mods are allowed, but RT56 is not for this one. I will be looking to perhaps do some modded focused challenges in the new year but I haven't begun the process of asking the mod devs for their insights on challenges

Only one entry will be accepted, you are of course allowed to do multiple runs, but only one submission, if there are multiple I will not accept them. And the AI can be hist or non hist its up to you.

The winning submission will be chosen based on time, yes, and I may add a secondary winner for someone who gets a large amount of lend leases (like if they get 20+)

[true bobcat]

so the fastest or the most nations, got it. if we have all the dlcs, could we just get 15$?

[solid gust]

That is not how the challenges work, I simply have keys not money.

If you have all the dlc's already, you may choose one to give to a friend

[true bobcat]

ah, sounds good

[true bobcat]

one last thing, what specifically do you want a screenshot of? do you want a screenshot of each lendlease or just one of all of them?

[solid gust]

You need one screenshot showing that you have ironman on, with it being achievement compatible, and you can attach one or multiple screenshots showing you having the required amount of lend leases

[true bobcat]

how do we show that we are sending different equipment to each nation?

[solid gust]

sorry, doing about 5 things at the moment.

For proof, you can show your diplo screen that shows how many countries you are lend leasing, i forget if with the international market if lend leases show up in the market area for deliveries or not but I do not think so

[true bobcat]

right, and im just making clear before i do it, it IS required that we send a different equipment to every nation, but it wont be checked?

[solid gust]

It should be different pieces of equipment yes

[true bobcat]

is it expected to send 10 screenshots then

because the only way to check if the equipment is different is to hover over every lend lease

[solid gust]

I may ask the winner to provide additional screenshots, but that will be at the end of the challenge, so just do not delete the save

for the general submissions, however, no I will not need 10 different screnshots of the lend leases, perhaps just 1-3

[true bobcat]

sounds good

[solid gust]

The different equipments should not be different timed guns, but I will accept one outdated gun and one of your current research level

The different types should be tanks/planes/guns etc to be varied for at least a bit of challenge

[true bobcat]

I defined unique equipment as a different slot on the lend lease tab and it was just now i read this after the campaign was done

also on the thing it dosent say unique even, it says different

which was me misreading it

but it should still apply becuase different slots on the lend lease tab is the definition of different equipment

[solid gust]

did i not write unique? ah well then thats my fault, i copied the wrong thing from my drafts, then i suppose its technically allowed due to my error

[true bobcat]

@crisp maple W other person doing the challenge

[crisp maple]

how many winners will there be?

[solid gust]

yes that is fine

[crystal wren]

Are fuel, tanks, convoys, etc. allowed in the challenge?

[solid gust]

equipment is allowed, but stuff like resources (fuel/aluminium etc) are not

[pale agate]

the new challenge is basically world conquest

[solid gust]

It is more difficult than the previous ones, yes, but some people want more difficult challenges, and the last few were easier

[dense oar]

Are we allowed to use mods like rt56 to give Australia a better focus tree?

[heavy kayak]

no

you need the trophy

[dense oar]

Ok

[solid gust]

Not this time but I am currently in talks to try and set one up

with the modding community

[dense oar]

Ok

[orchid radish]

in what form is proof supposed to be provided?

[solid gust]

Proof of ironman being enabled, as well as 1-2 screenshots showing you own all the islands

[fickle river]

do i need to start as Australia?

[dense oar]

You do

[fickle river]

it says nothing about releasables, how do you know

[spiral willow]

@solid gust does it have to be hist ?

[heavy kayak]

Nah, has never been

Even Historical Finland challenge required only Finland to be historical

[cloud wharf]

what are the pacific islands specifically does it includes the phillipines dutch east indies and new zealand or just the small islands the us uk and japan control

[nova fable]

Q: The winner of the challenge is the one who does it the fastest right?

[copper anchor]

Wikipedia is the source

[cloud wharf]

to anyone out there dont bother trying fascist australia lmao

u physically can join the axis

[solid gust]

I never require historical/nonhistorical AI to be on, and unless its stated in the Challenge itself, I don't force Historical/non-historical on the country you play

Some challenges have requirements, like the previous being communist USA, but most don't

[dense oar]

Might be a bug?

[solid gust]

visual bug? make sure to bug report it on the forums if so

[glad vector]

I recommend communist.

[flint river]

Na, the challenge would be easier as New Zealand with the big Bob tank

[robust imp]

guys new challenge

try not to commit warcrimes

goodluck

[cloud wharf]

@solid gust is controlling the state good enough?

[fickle river]

it says conquer and OWN so propably not

[solid gust]

Apologies, I had a lot to do today.

You have to resolve the war(s) and own the states, controlling is not enough. Though if the challenge proves too difficult for too many players I may downgrade it

[cloud wharf]

alright thanks it was just between having to do a rerun or not because germany outbidded me on the caroline islands

[subtle remnant]

What counts as Pacific island every island or every island state?

And does North Sakhail count (I dont wanna cap the Soviet Union)

[solid gust]

This screenshot linked by matavock is a good indication of the islands needed, and you do not need to cap the Soviet union,, whatever islands they own at game start are not included

[subtle remnant]

Alr thats doable

[cloud wharf]

@solid gust how about south sakhailin is that part of japan or nah?

[solid gust]

I don't work on the weekend as a quick reminder so try to keep the pings to a minimum,I always check this channel anyways because I like answering questions 🙂

As for the location in question let me check, because if Japan owns it at the game start then it should be included

[cloud wharf]

alright thanks its ok

i assume taiwan is fine tho since its a chinese core

[solid gust]

Taiwan is fine yeah

[solid gust]

Also know if you want to try a new run, you have to delete the previous one

[cloud wharf]

yep done

[glad vector]

don't forget to include Galapagos! 😉

[little aurora]

Whats more broken italy 1937 or Germany 1937
(My opinion italy is more broken)

[brisk sundial]

WHAT’S THIS CHALLENGE ABT

I WANT IN

[copper anchor]

#challenge-submissions message

[crisp maple]

do the winners gets randomly picked out of the people who completed it?

[solid gust]

This current one is timed, some challenges its picked by month, some by year, most that are timed gated however are by specific dates

Other challenges are won simply by participating, however, in order to give everyone a chance, even if they are not the best players

[brisk sundial]

who sets the challenges

[heavy kayak]

not a Mexican, maybe

[dense oar]

Chak

[brisk sundial]

where is chak

[solid gust]

always watching

[dense oar]

Hi chak

[brisk sundial]

Sup Chak, have u done a mexican challenge

[brisk sundial]

emily, let me be

[solid gust]

Not yet, no.

Most of the recent challenges have been Nordic focused to celebrate AAT's release, but I'm going to write down some more challenges for other places soon, the 2 before the current one were more christmas/holiday themed

if you've got a good mexico challenge, though, I am all ears

[brisk sundial]

Ahh alright, well if u ever need some challenges in latin america im the guy you looking for

for now mexico is the most interesting out of them all, gotta wait until we get the south america dlc

[dense oar]

There's a mod for south America but I can't remember the name

[brisk sundial]

Oh yes I do, and its not the basic "defeat usa" or "get trotsky in power and defeat ussr" nah nah.
I'll do you one better, resurrect the Mexican Empire. And the best part of this is that it's a hidden path. It's literally on game files with their own flag and everything. But it's almost impossible to get it without commands

[brisk sundial]

Atp i think there are mods for everything

[dense oar]

It's a good mod

[brisk sundial]

bet it is

[solid gust]

I could probably do something similar, though it has to be able to be done legitimately without commands as I need to guarantee integrity and whatnot

[brisk sundial]

it is possible, you just have to find a way to swith to non aligned after becoming a catholic state through focus

[solid gust]

hmm, I'll ask about it with my colleagues then, since I'm newer than they are, and have a lot to catch up on in the hidden paths department

[dense oar]

Just wondering can you get your coworkers to make a new path for a challenge?

[solid gust]

lmao if only, but no I have no impact in that way, I am simply the middle man between the community and the dev team

though if they dont make ultra secret hidden op Canadian world domination paths we're gonna have a problem.....

[dense oar]

New dlc topic confirmed???

[solid gust]

I wish

As a canadian, it is my solemn duty to try and skew all the cool stuff towards canada

[dense oar]

America's little brother

[solid gust]

soon to be the opposite, America's Cooler Brother B)

lmao ok thats cringe, I'm gonna stop now while I'm ahead

[brisk sundial]

Ahh that's amazing ! (btw tell them to fix the bugs of spain not deciding whether to be non-aligned or fascist it blocks mexican focus tree smh)

[brisk sundial]

Already is, guess who has free healthcare of them both

🇨🇦

[dense oar]

Hey we have freedom care

[pseudo goblet]

[rare hatch]

If you win one of the challenges but you already have the dlc's can you also ask for model pack

[solid gust]

You are allowed to ask for any currently released DLC, which includes the armour/music packs

[regal fiber]

If you own all the dlcs already, do you get nothing for completing the challenge?

[lucid cliff]

My subscription is open,

[solid gust]

If you own all dlc's already, you are allowed to grab a DLC for a friend or family member

[glad vector]

I went communist australia and a grand old time conquering all that stuff. Nowhere near the excellent time the other submissions made though. Oh well 😎

[cloud wharf]

u should post it anyhow currently theres only 2 legit submission

[mighty elm]

when is the challenge due with the new change? is it on monday?

[solid gust]

It will be Tuesday this time around 🙂

[mighty elm]

sounds good, thanks!

[lavish solstice]

Is this challenge possible without dlc

[solid gust]

Technically yes but this was a more difficult one even with DLC

Next challenge won't involve so many naval invasions lmao

[glad vector]

almost there, Equador joined the comintern....

[glad vector]

it is done

[dense oar]

What's the time?

[empty gate]

excuse me but what iin the actual heck

[glad vector]

1943...

[cloud wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSwU_-YaMds&t=1191s

to help those that wants to do the challenge

u rush civil war as australia

and justify on spain and dutch east indies once u start your civil war

dont do focuses to get more pp

than after that once ww2 start join axis and cap uk

to take french and uk islands and navy

next u cap usa to get us islands

and than justify on japan, and cap them u need to remmber to take all islands first since china will contest the islands

than take as many mainland island as possible

china should not take any of mainland

after that u need to time another justify of japan with truce end

and than u can fully take all of japan

u guys can prob beat my time easily since i messed up my justifications which wasted a couple of hundreds of day

[glad vector]

looks like a nice campaign

its kind of hard to keep track of things in this channel, but I did believe japan and taiwan were not part of the challenge

but oh well, I'm conquering china as we speak...

[cloud wharf]

its fine i couldnt figured out how to do this challenge till i stumbled on bittersteel malaya guide

which allowed me to get a navy

[glad vector]

I did a similar thing as communists, joining the Soviets and getting the Dutch fleet first 🙂

[solid gust]

Answering the questions from the #challenge-submissions since I am going to remove them (remember that channel is not for discussions)

You need the entirety of what japan owns at the game start for the run to count, though Antasil was going for more of a meme-y run like he enjoys doing haha, he technically would need to conquer mainland Japan.

Same goes for Son of Inti, although mainland China yoinking Japan out from under you is unlucky

[mighty elm]

sorry for putting messages in the submissions tab

do the possessions required include taiwan and the chinese mainland possessions?

or just everything outside of those

[solid gust]

It's alright, I'm not mad or anything, just casually reminding everyone

No, you do not need mainland china or Taiwan, just Japan as its main territory

so not the part of the islands controlled by russia at the top of the map either

and ofc all of the other islands

Important note though, for the challenge announcement tomorrow, it will not be me doing it this time, as I will not be in for work (have to get emergency dental stuff done) so please no pinging me Tuesday and Wednesday

[mighty elm]

dont worry we'll only ping you during your appointment if thats ok

[solid gust]

then you'll get ripped out of the challenge channels faster than my wisdom teeth get yanked outta my head

lmao but just be mindful, is all i ask haha

[mighty elm]

oof gl tho the wisdom teeth stuff is always a bit rough

[glad vector]

I'll add mainland Japan then

[mighty elm]

when does the next challenge come out?

[mighty elm]

@lapis jewel my submission for the last challenge wasnt counted?

[cloud wharf]

i thought u won too but a win is a win

[mighty elm]

lol fair enough, gg!

[cloud wharf]

how u do it tho

nonhist roll?

[mighty elm]

i cant give away my secrets 👀

im assuming there was some little thing in my screenshot that was off but i cant figure out what

[arctic rock]

For the france challenge do you have to OWN everything in Europe or can you just occupy it???

[mighty elm]

i think it just says turn them communist

[cloud wharf]

nah it was perfect

i think midgeman just didnt see it in time

[mighty elm]

ah that would make sense

i thought i had sent it in early enough

[dark dock]

For the challenge is it smiled upon to do revolution to the Utmost?

[frosty mirage]

Can it be ahistorical?

[glad vector]

this, I think. Other than that: galapagos? But if that was missing, surely they would have asked

[cloud wharf]

he had galapagos too

[mighty elm]

galapagos is taken

[glad vector]

for my part, one winner seems meager for this challenge. You both had excellent contributions

[cloud wharf]

mcwhiskers was way more impressive

[mighty elm]

honestly i wouldnt be against giving the few participants all dlcs

[cloud wharf]

i only capped uk by the time he finished his

[mighty elm]

it was a tough one and you guys are good sports too

@cloud wharf ngl i think you had more conquests than me

so mine might have been fast but uh your aus would beat my aus in a fight lol

[cloud wharf]

really i thought the reversed u have double my mils

[mighty elm]

uh those arent mils lol

its almost all civs, germany was a big help with the guns

if midge does decide to count mine if it was missed, i wouldnt accept anything if you didnt get a dlc too

[cloud wharf]

Actually which dlc do you want id give you mine

U beat me by 3 whole year

U deserve it

[lavish solstice]

Then why did chak give it to u

[arctic rock]

do we also submit the save game file???

[cloud wharf]

Probably didnt notice

[lavish solstice]

No just screenshot

[frosty mirage]

what if some nations are already communists, do they need to be in my faction or something?

[mighty elm]

No you're too kind lol, you deserve to keep it

[cloud wharf]

Im being legit here like i alr have all the dlc i need

[mighty elm]

I really appreciate it, but ima keep trying to see if mine counts or not

One strat is actually to hold onto your code until the next dlc comes out, and grab that one for free

[cloud wharf]

Im probably gonna win the vanilla tournament which maybe would give me the next dlc? There got to be a price right

[mighty elm]

whats the vanilla tourny? the world championship?

[fickle river]

finally, someone with a soul, normally i would be mad for not winning it, but i saw Mcwhiskers upload and can only say he fully deserves it (even thought it possibly was through some glitches or something), great you offer this to him (no i am not asking you to give it to me, just impressed)

[mighty elm]

ill admit, i didnt use any glitches, but the strat i used was veryyyy lucky

but yea i honestly gotta give credit where credit is due, @cloud wharf gets +rep for good sportsmanship

epic personality

[fickle river]

murkesha gained +2 charisma points for this act

[mighty elm]

but this statement too, is a really good one, most people wouldnt take the time to give a strong compliment!

[solid gust]

I'm not working, but this strat doesn't work. The challenge winnings pertain to when the challenge is done, so if something is not released when the challenge is done then you cannot wait for the future

That being said I believe Midge did not see your entry as he doesn't normally do the challenges and I gave the info I had when I stopped working yesterday.

I may have something special in mind for the future with you though, McWhiskers, in terms of the challenges themselves but that is something for next week 🙂

[dense oar]

Just wondering for the new challenge if a country is already communist do we have to make them more communist? By that I mean forcing them to

Also is it fastest time?

[mighty elm]

oop sorry for not seeing this before

1. sorry for giving out that advice, now I know not to try that myself
2. that's what i assumed, it was a relatively late entry so i get that it might have been missed
3. ooh ok im interested count me in!

[solid gust]

Country just has to be communist, if it already is you dont need to flip em'/ make them more communist

though there is no specific requirement, in terms of timing for this one, I am trying to do another lax one for everyone, I would say trying to keep as many of the starting countries in the game still alive/remade would be an admiral goal, and less of a total conquest

[floral storm]

i just annexed them all

[floral storm]

oh

i thought you had to annex them

[golden tinsel]

if you are running out of ideas for challenges.. then i have one 😄

[solid gust]

The challenge in the way it is phrased means you can annex or flip the other countries, its entirely fine

[spring void]

I think this Chalk said he gave us an easy one this week since the last one was so difficult.

[solid gust]

Yessir, I am trying to figure out a balance between easier and more difficult challenges so this one is an 'easy' one that you can make more difficult for yourself if you want to

[spring void]

Wow. I didn't realize who I was responding to. I think I need to get some sleep.

[solid gust]

lmao its okay, I'm right there with you. My dentist visit was a bust yesterday so I'm working again today with minimal sleep

go get some food in your belly and a good rest, friend

[spring void]

Will do man. Take it easy.

[mighty elm]

We can keep the community going for you if you need to take a nap, chak

[cloud wharf]

i love paradox rng, always give me the election i do not want , in mp games i keep rolling commie event and now i roll rearm in all my games