#Bronze 4 Widowmaker [F6QG5P] alcaras#1456

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tulip eagle
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Working on better positioning / game sense, as I recognize better aim will come with time. I'm on PC.

Replay code: F6QG5P

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Bronze 4 Widowmaker [F6QG5P]

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Bronze 4 Widowmaker [F6QG5P] alcaras#1456

stuck hound
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is this PC or console?

tulip eagle
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PC

stuck hound
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actually, 1:07 should have told me the answer to that

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it seems like your sens and your mousepad might be conflicting a little bit

tulip eagle
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ah? i have sens set to 5.55%

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and rel aim sense while zoomed at 37.89%

stuck hound
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the number that really matters is the eDPI, effective DPI, which is just that number times your mouse DPI

tulip eagle
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though i'm not sure i understand what you mean

stuck hound
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when you do that grapple jump at 1:07, it seems like it takes you 3 full swipes of the mouse to do a 180 degree turn

tulip eagle
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i have a large mouse pad but don't tend to use most of it

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primarily use my mouse with my wrist, not my arm?

stuck hound
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do you remember what you probably did at 1:07 to turn like that?

tulip eagle
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does that imply i should up my sens so i can turn more? though that feels like it'd be harder to aim

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i think it was three short mouse movements on my mousepad

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just wrist movements

stuck hound
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okay, so it wasn't lifting the mouse to get more room to move

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then the next question would be, why did you stop in the middle twice? was it to get your bearings and see if you were turned the right way?

tulip eagle
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while turning? or where/what time?

stuck hound
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yeah, while turning at 1:08

tulip eagle
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oh, i was swiping my mouse left to right three times to complete the 180

stuck hound
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i know I'm getting really detailed here but this sounds important to me

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i'm trying to put 2 and 2 together here

tulip eagle
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i appreciate the perspective / advice

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overwatch is the only fps i've played in any significant amount

stuck hound
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if you didn't need to lift up the mouse for more room, why were 3 separate movements needed?

tulip eagle
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i didn't want to move my arm ?

stuck hound
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yeah, totally, I thought I might have some useful tips because it was kind of the same for me - I had to start from almost no experience too

tulip eagle
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(so maybe i should set sens higher ? )

stuck hound
tulip eagle
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comfort

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i tend to just use my wrist / not make large movements

stuck hound
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physical comfort, or just being used to doing it one way?

tulip eagle
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i have a large mousepad but my mouse doesn't move very far in practice

stuck hound
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because definitely don't do anything that will hurt

tulip eagle
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just used to it i think

stuck hound
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do you mean that the mouse doesn't cooperate with what you're trying to do, or...?

tulip eagle
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no, i just played a lot of rts / strategy games

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and didn't need to make big mouse movements there

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my arm is resting on my mousepad

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i'd have to lift my arm to use the entire mouse pad

stuck hound
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aha, well, when I saw that, I assumed the advice was going to be the same advice many people have gotten: either increase your sens, or get a mousepad big enough for your sens... but you've got a different situation.

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how eager are you to try it another way?

tulip eagle
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i could increase sense

tulip eagle
stuck hound
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to be truthful, I'm having trouble understanding the smaller movements

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you're not lifting the mouse after each movement to reset its position?

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that's why I'm having trouble picturing it

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let me ask another way:

tulip eagle
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err yes i am

stuck hound
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"lifting" meaning raising it high enough so the sensor doesn't register movement

tulip eagle
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yep, am lifting to move it back

stuck hound
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that makes more sense

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have you ever tried arm aiming to see if you like it?

tulip eagle
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a little bit, didn't like it

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have been using my mouse this way for 30+ years so hard habit to change :d

stuck hound
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i had to learn arm aiming from scratch, myself - i heard it was easier on the wrist for strain and all that, so I gave it a shot

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well, plenty of people do wrist aiming. Hopefully someone peeks in here and can help out.

tulip eagle
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sounds like i should increase sens?

stuck hound
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I feel like maybe increasing sens might work

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for arm aiming they say that you should be able to do (at least) a 180 using the entire mouse pad - but i have no idea what the advice is for wrist aiming.

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earlier in the code, my impression was definitely that your sens was very low

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I'm awful at widowmaker so I wasn't going to judge that part too much until I saw the results

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after watching a little more of the code: Sure there are other things to improve on, but you're standing in reasonable places most of the time...

tulip eagle
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will try 11% to see how that feels

stuck hound
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A lot of your positioning errors are coming from the fact that your movement is hampered in that way

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when you grapple and it isn't smooth and you fall back down

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so I really do think that this is the one major thing keeping you in bronze

tulip eagle
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thank you

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will explore higher sens

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it does feel like with low sens i can't "catch" the enemy with my crosshair / move fast enough

stuck hound
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it probably won't fix everything instantly but let me know what new difficulties you find

tulip eagle
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appreciate it!

stuck hound
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eventually I can show you some good aim exercises

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to be clear, my aim is pretty mid, but this is foundational stuff to build on

tulip eagle
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i like iostux's

stuck hound
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i think iostux is where I heard about the "big flick, then small correction" technique

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once your sens is fixed you'll be able to try that for real

stuck hound
tulip eagle