#NEW TO MNK DPS GOLD 1 LOSS

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heady radish
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I’ll look at this later

wary finch
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thank you very much

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I've gone from silver 5 to gold 1 in just a week and a half, so hitting plat would be huge

wary finch
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(plat now)

heady radish
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I had to work later than anticipated, so I’ll look at this tomorrow. Sorry.

wary finch
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no worries at all

heady radish
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There's a lot to unpack in this one. Do you have anytime after 7 EST tonight?

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@wary finch

wary finch
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really? its 11 minutes

heady radish
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Yes.

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There's quite a bit that's going wrong, and I think it'd be better to explain it personally

wary finch
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well, thank god i sent a particularly bad game

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honestly if you want to send a dm when youre available and if im free im free, im not sure what ill be doing

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and also thank you

heady radish
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kk

heady radish
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I'm going to be speaking very broadly during this. These will largely be macro concepts and, while more easily explained in a live review, I hope I can convey these issues properly. Feel free to ask me questions about anything presented here.

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Your first issue is understanding effective range and positioning as a DPS. You were on Bastion to start, and then Sojourn later. Note that you start doing better on Sojourn for two reasons: her effective range is significantly better than Bastion's own range, and you are against a long-range poke team composition.

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You need to begin internalizing what the goal of your chosen DPS hero is and working towards that. For example, you won't be able to just sit in the main angle as Bastion and spam versus Hog/Hanzo/Widow.

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Same with Cassidy, which you swap to later.

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You take unnecessary peeks and are punished as a result.

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On that note, this leads us to your second core weakness. You have zero angle control; you're essentially just sitting main, spamming, and fishing for kills. Especially as a DPS, your job is to apply pressure from multiple angles. Sometimes that's with a group, sometimes it'll be on your own. Against a poke comp like the red team's, you are fighting to clear out these angles.

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This entire game is in freefall because your team is unable to police these angles. Take it slowly, apply pressure patiently, and work towards securing the map (not necessarily fragging out).

wary finch
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that makes a lot of sense, thank you

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I will focus more on securing the map and work on my angles, honestly what I did in that game had worked every other game, hence why I was so stuck

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however, would it be stupid of me to argue that I think bastion is better to start because typically beating him involves switching your comp?

heady radish
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I think he trains a lot of bad habits when learning your fundamentals

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Good players are already doing these things; bad players are playing one angle, playing without natural cover, and are being mowed down by a cheese character

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You can still play Bastion while training these skills, sure, but I also think that you’re currently hitting a wall at your current skill level and cheesing low elo lobbies won’t help you improve

wary finch
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understood

heady radish
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I'll be archiving this in a day, but feel free to ping me with any questions

wary finch
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alrighty

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i actually want to talk about you saying that im cheesing my way up

heady radish
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Where is this coming from?

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And I didn't see it in that replay, outside of taking crazy 180 flanks

wary finch
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alright

heady radish
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I didn't say "real skill" or anything like that, I was talking exclusively about training your fundamentals

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Are you looking for an argument?

heady radish
wary finch
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not at all

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if i look nooby then i want to work on that immediately