misuse of the radio

[fair wraith]

Who: running-push
What: running-push hindered me from progressing the map by obstructing my ability to call reinforcement or artillery. Deliberately misused the radio by calling boats multiple times.
Where: invasionAU1
When: 20 minutes ago

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[warm drum]

i can confirm, i was there

[rose coral]

@gusty elm ? You report people for doing the same thing so why are you doing it here?

[rose coral]

gave it some more thought, considering this isn't his first strike + he's literally reported people for what he's doing himself

banned for 4 days

[plain adder]

Feel free to still respond to this, Running-Push, but without evidence to the contrary, I agree with the punishment. You have reported this same behaviour many times.

[gusty elm]

?

wtf This guy is jamming an infinite number of radios and I'm not taking up all the radios so why should I be penalized?

Is this the guy? What's going on? I wasn't there.

I'd like to see him present the movie

Otherwise, as far as I know, I'm not the one hogging the radio, he's the one who's been stuck on it for at least 20 minutes or more, but since I'm running the farm, I don't try to get in his way

[gusty elm]

What did I do? I didn't use the radio. Okay, can he prove it with the same movie?

What I'm asking is, is this the guy?

[fair wraith]

I don't need to upload a video to prove anything. It's clear from your screenshots that you did it deliberately as a retaliation because I once followed you. I was just trying to complete the map. I spent a lot of RP to call in paratroopers. At some point, you started hindering me by calling in boats.

what is wrong with me following you @gusty elm ?

[gusty elm]

Now you say you understand English? How long do you think you've been choking the radio? And you keep telling me you don't understand English. What are you talking about?

[rose coral]

Alright let me make this clear

who called in those boats by castle?

I don't care if you staggered them over time or not.

[fair wraith]

@gusty elm

[plain adder]

I noticed int he screenshots you are calling in paratroopers on Castle, a position you have a ton of AI on already, and currently hold?

[gusty elm]

That was my call to attract the AI, and the other one down there wasn't my call, and it ended up being only a call to two rubber boats

I'll admit what I've done, but I'd like to understand why he's constantly following me? He doesn't even say anything when I ask questions, even tells me he doesn't understand English.

[warm drum]

if you dont want ppl to follow you, play sp

[gusty elm]

He's the one who's really jamming the station, and he keeps calling for an 8-man team even after he's taken over

[fair wraith]

you started colling boats as soon as I started progressing the map

[gusty elm]

What's it to you? What do you have against me? Do you have to make this kind of statement about me?

[gusty elm]

But it's not about you. If I jam all the radios, how are you going to move forward? How are you going to call a lot of eight-man parachutes?

[fair wraith]

I was colling ai because of pushing from ene,y

[gusty elm]

Do you want to recognize how many backups you've called in? How long did you even use three backups at once? You know that, don't you?

Then why did you continue to call for eight-man paratroopers three times after you took the castle? Even after you called A2 three times in a row in the center?

[fair wraith]

why I can't do it? Is it prohibided?

you were sitting there farming.

[gusty elm]

Yeah, so you're the one who's really choking the radio, and it's not me.

I'm not stopping you from using the radio station and constantly strangling it, so I don't understand what's stopping you from pushing forward ?

[fair wraith]

there were too many enemies

[gusty elm]

Yeah, well, me farming over there didn't stop you from moving forward, so your accusations are completely invalid.

[fair wraith]

even when the area was captured

[gusty elm]

Did I do anything to warn you when you were using the radio continuously and for a long time? I don't think so.

[fair wraith]

look at your screen. you 're saying about following you

[gusty elm]

I mean, why are you following me, aren't you following me through three server hops? That's why I asked, even when I reentered the game and sent it somewhere else, you followed me right back.

Why did you tell me you didn't understand English?

[fair wraith]

I have nothing against farming

[plain adder]

In the last screenshot, you called in two, and I believe Xiaozantou called in 1 boat. That jammed up the radio.
That being said, Fireball_Jet, stop following around other players because you think you can. If you are harassing them, fucking up stealth etc...

That will result in a ban if you continue this, mikhail.

[fair wraith]

I was going to join their group

[gusty elm]

If that's the case then I welcome it, but you shouldn't say you don't understand English when they ask you why you're being followed, do you feel comfortable walking down the street and having strangers follow you continuously ? Not to mention that there are some points that can not surprise the AI, I don't know you and you don't understand English, what can I do ?

Then why do you understand English now?

[fair wraith]

ok. show me the video or screenshots how I followed you

[gusty elm]

I've already provided the mod, and the game has a log

[rose coral]

You admitted to doing it above, just don't do it

[fair wraith]

don't do what?

[gusty elm]

So you shouldn't accuse me of hogging the station, should you? Because you're the one who's been hogging the station continuously and consistently............

wth

[rose coral]

In regards to this evidence, lowering Running Push's ban to 2 days as it seems that Running did not jam the radio himself but Xia had also called in a boat at the same time.

But as i said, don't stalk people

[fair wraith]

when i need the radio and progress the map I use it

[gusty elm]

• -?

[fair wraith]

@rose coral do you see all those boats on the screenshots?

Is there any reason to call them but jamming the radio

[fair wraith]

By not punishing him appropriately now, you're allowing him to act freely without consequences

[rose coral]

While yes him calling in the boat to farm is unwelcome while you're pushing, he technically wasn't jamming the radio fully himself.

[rose coral]

The ban lowers to 2 days because he didn't jam the radio entirely by himself, but it stays as a ban at 2 days because he was farming while the team was struggling.

But if this continues

the ban will be longer

[fair wraith]

yesterday on the black swan map there were 3 of them in one squad and me. I just decided to play with them in one group

I wouldn't call it 'stalking'

[rose coral]

and for you Mikhail, do not follow people around the map like this unless they've welcomed you to it. Clearly he didn't want you doing it or we wouldn't be having this discussion atm

I get it but if he says no, then that's the action we have to take

[fair wraith]

you need to state it in the rules

[rose coral]

Stalking falls under harassment/griefing

[fair wraith]

If i don't want other people follow me I can say it to them and they have to obey

[plain adder]

The reason to call in boats, by the way, is to attract AI.

It's for farming, not necessarily jamming radio.

That would be a side-affect.

[fair wraith]

so why he didn't call them before me?

[plain adder]

Maybe he just got there?

Do you have evidence contrary to that?

[gusty elm]

I would like to ask you one thing, can you show me proof that I have been jamming your radio?

[rose coral]

literally you calling 2 boats, your friend calling 1

and he can't call in so it gets jammed - so you can see the commander message

[gusty elm]

Then I'd like to ask you, if I'm blocking your progress, how did you manage to take the three locations below?

[rose coral]

Honestly

2 days ban is extremely generous here considering your report people for the same thing (people you reported in the past didn't even jam the radio, did 1 at a time)

[warm drum]

with your millions, you should get this

[plain adder]

That's not needed here, right now.

[plain adder]

Also, in the future, before you make a report, at least ask the players to stop hogging the radio, if you feel you are. This goes for EVERYONE who makes a report, in the future, please.

[gusty elm]

I believe the evidence I've provided explains that I have no intention of obstructing progress, and I have no opinion on what you do with the rest

[fair wraith]

I believe there should be additional punishment for lying to moderators.

[plain adder]

What did he lie about? I see no evidence that this wasn even intentional. Did you ask him to stop?

[gusty elm]

I'm sure the moderators can easily tell who's lying...

[fair wraith]

at least he lied that he didn't use the radio.

[plain adder]

Upon looking at the evidence, we have decided that @gusty elm, we are giving you one last warning to not jam up radios, even unintentionally, when others are pushing the map, and avoid farming as well, if they are struggling.
@fair wraith , please try to communicate with folks before making reports, as well. We can see in the chat log that you did talk with them earlier. You clearly can communicate with them.

[gusty elm]

wth

[plain adder]

We have no reason to believe that it was intentional, and that RP would have continued this if you had asked him to stop. That should always be your first step towards these situations, not getting us involved.

[gusty elm]

Hey, man, you understand English perfectly, but you're telling me you don't understand English? Well, if you understand English, then I have a question. I've asked you many times why you're following me and you don't say anything, even tell me you don't understand English? This is not a report. I just want to make sure....

[rose coral]

That being said, we know Running-Push's playstyle can rub players the wrong way - so we are going to take this opportunity to say this.

@gusty elm While your playstyle is not necessarily breaking any rules directly, we've seen a few grievances regarding how you play farming in a corner etc, both from the CN and the Western community. It'd be wise to perhaps play with the team more rather than sitting in a corner farming while the rest of the team struggles (which in itself is breaking the rules).

And @fair wraith , just don't follow people around if they've asked you to stop please.

We will remove the ban for now, but as it stands, Running Push is on EXTREMELY thin ice at the moment.

[rose coral]

Also while we're here, since you were there, do you have anything to add with evidence?

And just so we are clear @gusty elm had Mikhail actively said in chat he was struggling to push and you didn't help him/continued calling in boats. This would have been a ban

[fair wraith]

fair enough

[gusty elm]

He hasn't asked me to help him with anything, not once, unless I've been misinformed, but as far as I can remember, he hasn't.

[rose coral]

Which is why this is a warning instead of a ban

[gusty elm]

Instead, I took the initiative to share with him what I could do and to remind him not to stalk me, as mentioned above, and I may have some more videos if you need more

[fair wraith]

I'd like to see the video about me stalking you.

[fair wraith]

That's a fairly fair decision. Everyone deserves a chance to avoid a ban by defending their interests.

[fair wraith]

There is no evidence of me stalking you. I admitted to following you (in a positive way). As I mentioned before, I was alone on the map and tried to join the group led by Running-Push