twin juniper
Right now we have only one gate, and it's lame because we could just add more, especially since we have quests comparing old gate prices and such, so we could just add intermediate gates in the pack as benchmarks for players, and use this to compare the price between old gates and current gate in quests. What do you think?
We also need the famous RGateB module, to control the color of the chevrons when activated!
versed helm
We can use https://github.com/RafaelDeJongh/cap_resources/tree/master/models for resources (the cap repo also has lua code driving the gates)
eternal estuary
basically expanding on legacy gate?
static mural
Sounds like a cool idea, replacing the current trophies
spiral dome
aren't those model too detailed?
twin juniper
basically expanding on legacy gate?
yeah
spiral dome
I remember getting a slap on the wrist for making the SE Model less detailed than those
versed helm
aren't those model too detailed?
it's easy to make the models lowpoly if needed
eternal estuary
would be a nice thing to do yeah, the trophies are "good enough" but not that exciting, this would be a lot cooler
pliant dune
Make the gates represent the end of a tier with a craft made to challenge the infra at said tier, thoughts ?
versed helm
they're already pretty lowpoly because it's old source 1 content, but we can make them even less out of place
eternal estuary
plus it could be actual recipes for gate parts instead of just a collection of items needed to turn in to a consume quest
static mural
yeah I think these would make for great 'trophies'
the current trophies are rather uninteresting
eternal estuary
what if teleporting through the trophy stargates displays a screen like the credits returning from the end but its instead the lore text from the quest 
twin juniper
how many gates there are in the pack?
twin juniper
how many gates does the SG universe have
versed helm
the gmod addon I posted has 8 gates
one of them looks basically identical to sg1 but more gray so more like 7
that's including the Supergate which idk if we want 
it's REALLY big
twin juniper
do we want to use them for legacy gates? gates as mile stones in tiers? both?
static mural
I think it would be perfect for legacy
eternal estuary
that will last us a while, cloud and i already talked about plans going forward for gate and we only want to do new legacy gates when the recipe changes signficantly, i think the next one will be a smaller incremental change that doesnt deserve a legacy gate
versed helm
the Tollan gate is white too, so we could make it dyeable
twin juniper
can we have a gate you can color with OC? i defo want to have one go RGB controlled with OC
static mural
that's including the Supergate which idk if we want <:kekw:787677965999145011>
this one could maybe be the goal for a variant, as a shifted goalpost
versed helm
can we have a gate you can color with OC? i defo want to have one go RGB control...
maybe the chevron lights could be programmable
twin juniper
that would be sick
versed helm
RGateB upgrade module
static mural
add the gorge cosmetics system to it 
versed helm
btw for context, a stargate is 6.7 m in diameter, a supergate is 1600 m in diameter (the first prototype supergate was 400 m in diameter though)
eternal estuary
add the gorge cosmetics system to it <:Pepechill:1002188915647725588>
that took me so long to make
twin juniper
can't wait for RGateB
static mural
btw for context, a stargate is 6.7 m in diameter, a supergate is 1600 m in diame...
that might be a tad large
versed helm
btw for context, a stargate is 6.7 m in diameter, a supergate is 1600 m in diame...
we'd have to limit to like 100 m because of build limits lol
static mural
sideways gate
minor crag
Would be gud if gate became a gt multi imo
eternal estuary
structurelib isnt gt only yea
spiral dome
we'd have to limit to like 100 m because of build limits lol
100 meters already a bit too much I think 🤔
pliant dune
nah, if that super gate ain't going from 0-255 what's the point
twin juniper
ancient drum
Custom dimension just for building the supergate with 1600 block build height
Wait, thats just the Space Exploration gate ending
novel vault
small reminder that theres no tag on this aoi
minor crag
Wotcha mean
novel vault
these
twin bane
the gmod addon I posted has 8 gates
8??? Is the one that’s more gray the prototype gate? I’ll take a look at them once I get on my laptop. But we all know I’m all for more gates, I did try getting one of the other SGCraft forks added but the people maintaining it wouldn’t allow us to use it
versed helm
8??? Is the one that’s more gray the prototype gate? I’ll take a look at them on...
it's the movie gate, which has gray chevrons instead of the sg-1 orange chevrons
and some other minor differences
versed helm
yes
twin bane
That could be for the original gate tier
versed helm
I watched all of it (all series and movies) sth like 4 times 
and played a stargate-themed ttrpg with some friends a few years back
minor crag
twin bane
rich iron
<@145209591049879552> you were the person who made the custom endscreen right?
yes i am
primal jasper
If we are adding more Stargates, it would be funny to see the implimentation of the Pink-gate.
twin juniper
do you have started a spreadsheet @eternal estuary ?
eternal estuary
remind me, what was i supposed to spreadsheet?
twin juniper
remind me, what was i supposed to spreadsheet? <:kekw:787677965999145011>
idk, i hoped you'd have one in stock so i could maybe try to start working on that. I'm a stargate lore noob
stargate is in the pack just because it was cool to use it on Delta
eternal estuary
im not sure i understand, what would you want on the spreadsheet
twin juniper
im not sure i understand, what would you want on the spreadsheet
what to do, what to implement, what assets to steal, etc.
eternal estuary
i can work on putting something together
karmic cargo
It could be cool if like the new Dyson that you need to place it in different systems, for the stargate you need to make different stargates ( technological, magical, arcane, biological...) in different gated planets in order to the main ( and final one) to open/work, like if they syncronize all toguether in order to select a destination in all the space
twin juniper
it just seems to be needlessly complicated for nothing
karmic cargo
idk what other lore it haves to make diferent stargates
twin juniper
stargates are essentially meant to be trophies
karmic cargo
Just saying that in the stargate franchise there are some gates that seems more futuristic technology, and other that are more ancient / arcanus
karmic cargo
It could be cool if like the new Dyson that you need to place it in different sy...
Also than in the lore side they create differnt stargates in differet locations in order to create a gate network that could work from point to point
pliant dune
idk, i hoped you'd have one in stock so i could maybe try to start working on th...
ask raven, she's a real stargate nerd
coarse dust
Stargate multis
shadow goblet
ask raven, she's a real stargate nerd
Bet @twin bane is a bigger one 
twin juniper
i'd bet on Raven
signal nest
versed helm
stargates are essentially meant to be trophies
a lore summary of what a stargate is made of is roughly this:
the oldest gates have a limited dialing range (a few dozen light years iirc, as seen on stargate universe), but after that era all gates could pretty much dial anywhere given enough power
twin bane
Pretty good summary honestly
Also having time travel possible through gate travel if the wormhole passes near a solar flare, depending on the characteristics it’ll send you back or forward through time
versed helm
in terms of gate types by difficulty to make we have:
shadow goblet
stargate back in time to prestige 
versed helm
stargate back in time to prestige <:Gigachad:972826914337194034>
witchery dream dimension tech edition 
shadow goblet
twin bane
Fairly sure the destiny gate also had the limited range on it. They couldn’t dial back to the planet with ruins where Eli, Chloe, Matt and Greer were
versed helm
from other sg things there are also transport rings built by the ancients and ori, and used by goa'uld too that provide short-range teleportation without wormholes - these are fun to put on spaceships in garrysmod, so I'd like to add them to sgcraft at some point
versed helm
Fairly sure the destiny gate also had the limited range on it. They couldn’t dia...
it was mostly limited due to destiny's power limits, while the planet gates were artificially limited
twin bane
The other SGCraft one that has all the gate variants also has the ring platform
versed helm
after all they did dial earth from destiny once
twin bane
With the help of a star, this is true
versed helm
(it wasn't a good connection by any measure but it did technically work )
twin bane
Good ol solar flare interactions!
versed helm
honestly building a destiny-class spaceship and a couple of seed ships (which are basically portable stargate factories) and sending them off for a final mission would be a cool endgame goal
twin bane
Oh, destiny solar scoops would be an interesting thing for power generation
versed helm
that could feel more meaningful than just building a gate
shadow goblet
Extended endgame
versed helm
and it gives a lore reason to build an automated stargate factory
twin bane
Tbh, I have mentioned in the past it could be used as part of the EoH research or something similar. Cosmic Background Radiation research as part of a multi
twin bane
and it gives a lore reason to build an automated stargate factory <:kekw:7876779...
Gio gio moment
shadow goblet
Small supergate could be fun for group runs instead of having to make multiple gates
versed helm
we should have some fun pregenerated diallable dimension that you can go to and visit a structure with credits and such, it should be easy to add
some of this is definitely out of scope for this AOI though
twin bane
Abydos or Heliopolis
versed helm
why not both, depending on gate tier
versed helm
wait I'm thinking of the ori homeworld, that wasn't heliopolis
twin bane
Ernest’s planet was Heliopolis
versed helm
right
twin bane
The 4 races repository of knowledge was there
Would be a decent place for a credits type thing
versed helm
or it could be this repository of knowledge, easier to make 
twin bane
Celestis was the Ori headquarters
twin bane
or it could be this repository of knowledge, easier to make <:tr:128344302448306...
Good idea
I’m actually surprised the Asgard never had their own gate variant. Was just the milky way gate with their own constellation mapping on it
shadow goblet
I want toaster gate
twin bane
I want toaster gate
Was a funny episode for that
shadow goblet
LuV deserves it
twin bane
Would be the first gate quest we have. So it’d be like UV/UHV or something
shadow goblet
isnt the current legacy gate like zpm?
twin bane
Is it? I haven’t looked honestly
versed helm
I’m actually surprised the Asgard never had their own gate variant. Was just the...
I imagine they had their own teleportation tech and the gate was just to have a link with the ancients
twin bane
Possibly, also could have been they removed them all cause of the replicators
Not wanting them to get their hands on it
Actually, can we add replicators to the pack 
versed helm
the spider crawlers probably, the humanoids probably not
shadow goblet
Finally hard end game mob
shadow goblet
Eater of TPS
twin bane
The ultimate one was the one we tried getting permission for
Do like how the made the destiny gate smaller. Since it actually is
versed helm
planetminecraft
versed helm
hold on, did they just copy the gmod models like I was planning to 
twin bane
They refused to upload to github
twin bane
hold on, did they just copy the gmod models like I was planning to <:kekwhat:130...
Looks that way
versed helm
yeah I'm pretty sure this is from CAP
which also means they would be violating the CC license of those assets
twin bane
shadow goblet
🤣
versed helm
this one is for 1.12 and uses CAP resources and is GPL https://github.com/MrJake222/AUNIS/tree/master
shadow goblet
holy it’s so popular
twin bane
Destiny timer 
versed helm
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/jsg
and this one uses a custom ARR license
twin juniper
just add it and nuke its code in memory so we can use assets!
versed helm
just add it and nuke its code in memory so we can use assets! <:TooTroll:1136711...
porting the original assets is not that difficult tbf
or maybe I can just make java load the original valve files, they're really simple to parse too
karmic cargo
this one is for 1.12 and uses CAP resources and is GPL <https://github.com/MrJak...
Dyslexia moment
shadow goblet
Dyslexia moment
Same didn’t want to say anything 🤣
twin juniper
?
karmic cargo
Nothing the mod name
native lava
AUNIS becomes you know what
twin juniper
ANUIS?
subtle ridge
Anubis? lol
versed helm
I'm decompiling the garry's mod models to see what will it take to add them to minecraft, and for one it will be texture compression/size reduction/both all of these are like 1024x1024 or larger
versed helm
the models load in blender after converting them to gltf using assimp 
btw should I just implement these new gates in gt5u, or do we really want to make them in sgcraft?
versed helm
btw should I just implement these new gates in gt5u, or do we really want to mak...
@twin juniper this might be a question for you
twin juniper
<@213077777367302144> this might be a question for you
SGCraft is what? a few blocks and a TE? we can always plan to just postea those and yeet SGCraft
versed helm
how often do people with working stargates want to migrate their worlds to a new version though
twin juniper
especially that aside the officials, people who have gates don't play much and the impacted amount of people is very low, so even if we derp the transition, it's kind of 
it'll just be a bad day for the official servers operators, as switching all the gates on 4 servers is... sloooooooooooooow
we did it once
versed helm
idk if it'll be feasible to make a full migration possible, but I can try to add some migration blocks later that you can dismantle and recraft into one of the new gates
especially if we want to switch rf->eu anyway
twin juniper
if you migrate the current stargate with postea/set blocks on world load and give them a TE with the same kind of coordinate system, as long as we have the same OC API it should be a seemingless transition
versed helm
ok, I'll keep this in mind but mostly leave that as a problem for later
twin juniper
tbh the dirty way of doing it is to let SGCraft alone and implement all the other gates through GT5U
then once we got a solid copy of the SGCraft gate system, we can try to import the last gate through GT5U. But the most important thing is to be able to retain the adresses of existing gates so all the computer programs with gate tables can survive the migration
but even if it's a pain, we can do what we originally did for SGCraft: keep it in the pack as an official server mod only
EnhancedPortals and SGCrafts got in the pack for that reason, so if we decide to not support the migration, we can always offload the issue on all the existing SGCraft users and call it a day (even tho i'd prefer to have a seemingless migration )
subtle ridge
don't ask where I found this I don't remember but this what I used for years to have more proper gates
resource.zip
versed helm
this is just gray versions of the sgcraft textures, without a license 
slate zodiac
Not sure if this is the OG one or re-upload, but there is a resource pack with very similar name: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/texture-packs/gates-gone-gray-gregs-sg-craft-resource-pack
subtle ridge
this is just gray versions of the sgcraft textures, without a license <:wuh:9249...
Yes that's all it is just an example for reference more than anything. I mean it's been a decade in gtnh still uses the ugliest Stargate color known to man.
silk moon
in terms of gate types by difficulty to make we have:
- toaster gate (built in c...
these are cool ideas I's add tot hem if possible higher and higher tiers of adresses, from 7 to 9 chevrons and lock some cool dimensions behind that
scarlet furnace
I. Acquire power to create planets via eye of harmony
II. Use an upgrade to stabilize the planet instead of supernova-mining it (essentially by both starlifting and injecting fresh matter into the EOH's microstar, very hard to do safely)
III. Inject Destination Gate Seeds until one successfully lands
IV. Dial into your GTNH Edition Mystcraft dimension [limit 1 per player team?]
V. Do it again, but cooler: repeat until machine gods are satisfied
