Chunk reset in the middle of the base | GT New Horizons | Page 1

graceful hare Dec 14, 2023, 2:52 PM

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It just reverted to original state and ate a couple of my most advanced machines. Can it be restored somehow?

graceful hare Dec 14, 2023, 3:18 PM

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@hallow ivy <@&188648556578603010> don't know whether you receive notifications from this channel, sorry if you already got it.

graceful hare Dec 15, 2023, 1:16 PM

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Meanwhile the amount of backups that still contain uncorrupted chunk gradually decreases. Do I get to receive at least an answer if not help?

hallow ivy Dec 15, 2023, 1:56 PM

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i'll see what i can do this evening

graceful hare Dec 16, 2023, 10:36 AM

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Meanwhile another chunk got corrupted. What happens?

hallow ivy Dec 16, 2023, 11:31 AM

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your base has ghostloading

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check your chunkloading system

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for the rollback i need a time (gmt+1 format) at which it was still not rolled back

graceful hare Dec 16, 2023, 1:09 PM

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Ok. About 14.12.23 10:00 GMT+1 I've logged off, everything was ok.
#chatepsilon message

I'm not familiar with "ghostloading" term, what should I avoid? The base has personal chunkloaders in three 3x3 areas, powered by shop coins.
There's also old base in overworld that's loaded the same way, I often go back and forth between them via teleposers. Main base teleposers are not chunkloaded.

hallow ivy Dec 16, 2023, 1:14 PM

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your chunk are kept in memory while they shouldn't

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and this can causes situation in which the chunk is badly used, corrupting it

graceful hare Dec 16, 2023, 1:22 PM

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So is it countered by replacing chunkloaders to passive? Or logging off somewhere else, but not on main base?
I've done a quick search in Discord history, and found you said its AE2's fault. Probably can't simplify that at this point...

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Or maybe cutting off ME power before logging off?

graceful hare Dec 18, 2023, 12:15 PM

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So boubou stopped answering whatsoever. Anyone else up to help or tell me to fuck off?

hallow ivy Dec 18, 2023, 3:21 PM

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graceful hare Ok. About 14.12.23 10:00 GMT+1 I've logged off, everything was ok. https://disco...

what's your dim?

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mars? also remember that it is a public dim, therefore, if there is an oregen update, we will need to wipe it

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while we can move small outposts such as a miner or a pump, we will not migrate a whole base

graceful hare Dec 19, 2023, 6:55 AM

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hallow ivy what's your dim?

Mars is correct.

I've read about server policy regarding bases in different dimensions and was willing to take the (low) risks of (sudden) worldgen update and move it myself.
Now, having faced 2 chunk resets in short period of time, I'm willing to move the base to persdim when / if it would be restored.

hallow ivy Dec 20, 2023, 1:23 PM

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@graceful hare should be rolled back. Tell me if it was not enough.

graceful hare Dec 22, 2023, 6:25 AM

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Everything was ok when you've said it was rolled back.
Now one of those two chunks had reset again.
Maybe there are conditions that let this bug reproduce more often than usual, so if someone is interested in debugging this - you've got a test site now.
Or, if no one is interested, I'm going to tear down everything and move.

hallow ivy Dec 24, 2023, 10:38 AM

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@graceful hare i rolled it back again, check your chunkloading system, and ideally move into your personal dim. Merry Christmas!

graceful hare Dec 24, 2023, 11:45 AM

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Ok, I will dismantle everything next time I'm on and move probably during holidays.
Ty, boubou, have a happy NY.

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 4:34 PM

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...sigh... Either someone played with my base in the meantime, or the reset happens when the chunk loads, not saves. Happens with awesome regularity, I'd say, its quite an opportunity to find and fix rare bug with severe consequences.

Had no chance to even start disassembling anything.
Am going to start moving what I can, please let me finish with that.

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 4:37 PM

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we will not try to debug this, it is probably an interaction with a poorly chunkloaded area and several mods. All i can is to offer you a rollback once again. And i'm pretty sure it's caused by some galacticraft shenanigans, because there the empty blocks are not quite empty.

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So tell me from when i should restore in GMT +1

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 4:49 PM

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Please don't restore it yet. Right after you do this, something happens and it resets immediately or almost so. Let me move what I can first. Also, you restore the entire base, so all my precautions with removing chunkloaders and disabling ME go elsewhere.

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 4:51 PM

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graceful hare Please don't restore it yet. Right after you do this, something happens and it r...

i can't do this. The rollback will just restore the rest of the base, allowing you to dupe easily. Either you don't move stuff and you get the rollback, or you say goodbye to what was in your reset chunks

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 4:57 PM

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So I didn't earn a shit of trust in two years? Never tried to tierskip, dupe, grief, did write some articles for wiki, took care to keep the turbine calc updated? Just hadn't talked in the discord as much as those who earned that?

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 4:57 PM

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it's not about trust, it's about server policies

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rules are the same for everyone

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 4:58 PM

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Then restore just the chunk that needs it after I move everything else. Or it might reset again and more before I finish.

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 4:58 PM

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you did not understand me.

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if you move shit, no rollback

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 4:59 PM

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Fine, go on with rollback then, no machines were moved yet.
But if it resets again before I finish, what will you do?

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 5:00 PM

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it wont if properly chunkloaded

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 5:02 PM

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I don't think you can guarantee something is "properly" chunkloaded. This "properly" part has no strict definition to follow.

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Like "you do this, you never get resets"

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 5:04 PM

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the reset only happens on chunkreloading. If you loaded it in memory without it rolling back, if it stays in memory, it won't change. So if you load it properly, you have at least up to until next reboot to move stuff. Given you always have the same chunk reset, i guess moving what's in those chunks won't take you more than 15 mins.

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So if you go in another dim, and come back, and see it reset itself, then your chunkloading grid is not working

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i have a lot of experience in chunk resets, 4 as a player, 3 as an admin. And it's always caused by improper chunkloading, forcing the game to load ghost chunks in memory

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 5:06 PM

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I've logged in first time today after you restored this base. First thing I see is chunk had reset again. So I had no opportunity to do anything, and it probably was not loaded by anyone before my logon. Do you have an explanation for that?

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 5:07 PM

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failed rollback

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which in this case clock starts ticking against us

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 5:07 PM

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No. Rollback had properly restored the chunk that was reset that second time. This was another one, that was on the first attempt.

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 5:08 PM

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i'm afraid the first chunk is lost

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what were your most advanced machines?

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 5:09 PM

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Assline. luv mixer with maybe 30-40 alloy recipes.

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 5:09 PM

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you'll have to redo the patterning

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 5:11 PM

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Since unplanned moving will already cost me weeks, I guess a day or two of small things don't matter. Just assline then, with 16x data hatch please.

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 5:13 PM

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will do in 15 mins

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 5:35 PM

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done

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 5:43 PM

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Controller is like about 1% of assline's cost.

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 5:44 PM

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full one?

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 5:44 PM

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Like in questbook. 11 long.

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 5:50 PM

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graceful hare Like in questbook. 11 long.

done

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anything else?

graceful hare Dec 28, 2023, 5:51 PM

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Wish me enough patience to restore all this, so it wasn't for nothing, I guess...

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Thank you anyways.

hallow ivy Dec 28, 2023, 5:55 PM

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you should watch your attitude tho, i didn't like it, and next time, if you see a failed rollback, don't assume it just reset when you join, tell me directly i failed the rollback

graceful hare Dec 29, 2023, 9:19 AM

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hallow ivy you should watch your attitude tho, i didn't like it, and next time, if you see ...

If I see that the chunk that reset is not the one that you tried to restore (and successfully restored), I say so, because its the empirical fact. So the only plausible variant is backup succeeded AND another chunk was reset on load.

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Or thats how it was in the backup itself.

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