#PBI and Phthalic Acid

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chilly crest
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Passive PBI requires some unusual items:

  • Chrome Dust: You can either use the Ruby Bee though ruby juice or Chrome Bee
  • Zinc Dust: Your only option for passive zinc is the Zinc Bee and galvania, but the recipe time and uum cost isn't worth it.
  • Copper Dust: You can use either the Copper Bee or one of the many IC2 copper crops: Coppon, Cyprium, and Copper Oreberry
  • Saltpeter: You can use either the Salt Bee or Salty Root to produce it.

As for the fluids:

  • Ammonia: It's slow to produce, having multiple LCRs making it passively at all times is probably a good idea
  • Nitric Acid: The reason why you need so much ammonia for this line.
  • Phthalic Acid: If you plan on doing bees, you'll want this passive anyway, It's included in this chart in case you don't have it setup already.
  • Sulfuric Acid: It's just sulfur and oxygen, if you have Nether Stonelilies or Sulfur Bee already setup, you'll be fine on sulfur.
  • Oxygen: You need quite a lot of it thanks to phthalic acid. Sweed and Sugar Beets are a good way to produce sugar which turns into oxygen.

Recycling the hydrochloric acid is optional if you are pumping chlorobenzene from mars or if you can afford to waste a bit of chlorine and hydrogen.

You can open this image with on draw.io/diagrams.net to make some changes to the actual diagram if it ever needs to be updated.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1138595636967641229/1139048844773048370/Phthalic_Acid_and_PBI_by_C0bra5.drawio.png?width=997&height=702

final shoal
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Aaaah I did this line manually! Having this would have spared me some hours of designing the line. Keep up the good work!!!

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(btw I love how clean these look)

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Your platline flowchart was literally my companion for months

chilly crest
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welp i just noticed i forgot to label the diluted sulfuric acid outputs and the hydrogen output, i'll update the chart later

chilly crest
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Added the missing outputs

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balmy rune
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You can also make Phthalic acid using charcoal with coal tar iirc. If you make the benzene and dimethylbenzen you likely have an excess of charcoal (At least I do with my nitrobenzene setup) and can take that route instead.

chilly crest
balmy rune
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Lithium also comes from clay too, which if I remember most usually do something with clay to get passive aluminium. It's also good for lithium for LV/MV/HV batteries.

chilly crest
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ah, i've never really used clay for much since red stonelily just showers me in alu

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yep just electrolyze clay for some lithium nice

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sullen ledge
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I assume you mention bees/crops in addition to mining/miners

chilly crest
sullen ledge
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ah ok

vague pulsar
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The chart looks good, but fyi the pumpable part from mars is dichlorobenzene iirc not regular chlorobenzene

chilly crest
vague pulsar
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did they change it concern

chilly crest
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vague pulsar
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one of those was di

chilly crest
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mars only has salt water and chlorobenzene

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quick mason
vague pulsar
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Oh, dichlorobenzene is used for PPS

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thatás the one i got confused about

deft dagger
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since you dont need much chrome for hte PBI line due to the large multiplyer (2 to 11) , you can probably get away with centrifuging redstone dust and electrolyzing the ruby. Redstone you can automated using block breakers and redlon.

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and if you need more, redlon goes in the EIG

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also a good supplemental source of sulfur and iron through the pyrite

jagged wing
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And for those averse to IC2 crop breeding on top of bee breeding you can get your copper from lava centrifuging and then boom you're fully renewable

deft dagger
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Most glowing crops are placable directly on cropsticks

jagged wing
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Exactly

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dreamy delta
chilly crest