#Secret Bees the questbook DOESN'T want you to know about

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lavish sundial
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Cranked ignobles superiority

lime dirge
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Iirc frames in frame housings use triple(?) durability

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Would have to double check though

lavish sundial
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That might be true, but I do not plan to use Alvearies for production

lime dirge
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Aren't they the only way to automate frames though hmm

lavish sundial
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Just generate stuff in batches, before non high batches from bees production become relevant, you can craft mApiary

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slap some working frames in, leave it, come back to juicy resources

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inb4 working frames removed

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Nether stars are free anyway at the point you can make magic apiaries

lavish sundial
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Note to multipliers for combs, make bee speed actually impactful if possible, cause rn 2x bee is barely better than 1x bee

pure hatch
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Its gonna be difficult to balance all bee stats and other variables. We'll see how it turns out.

lavish sundial
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Yeye, sure, just a thought, as a base principle the bee is technically twice faster, but in reality it's not

sullen crow
lavish sundial
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I'd rather gregify speed values than 'nerf' them in not clear formula

pure hatch
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bee speed is piss easy to get. so i dont think it should be a 2x modifier with blinding speed e.g

lavish sundial
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If the multiplier is the problem

sullen crow
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but yea we can also adjust what blinding means

dark onyx
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after a thousand posts this could be a channel instead of a difficult-to-traverse thread

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I need to copypaste the OP somewhere

pure hatch
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Not really, things are in progress rn

lavish sparrow
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just tried iapiary with blinding speed and longest life span
it is bascially garbage as it take 2283 second to make 50 uranium comb

lavish sparrow
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not worth it as i am trying to make power from it

cunning stag
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If you want to use iApiary you want to use acceleration upgrades

sullen crow
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here is a proper secret bee hint in honor of the day ๐Ÿ˜‰

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you dont want to wait for next year to add it to your bee collection

lethal viper
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Didn't have to do tropical and I got a lot of eggs for my chicken trophy holding_back_tears

deep belfry
neon wasp
deep belfry
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no idea

sullen crow
pure hatch
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or you bribe me (im expensive)

wooden tangle
errant tapir
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user finds creative way to play the pack, game knowledge rewarding it.
next update series of gates and nerfs come down making doing that impossible.
Gregtech New Horizons dev team in a nutshell

sullen crow
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sounded serious. apparently has no idea lul

pure hatch
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Chochom he's right, let me revert all my changes

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Let's make bees great again

sullen crow
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hmm yes I remember how great they were just a year ago

pure hatch
errant tapir
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WG Nugget recipes
tainted magic fortress armor
crimson plating randomly requiring HV mixer because reasons
shadow metal general nerfs

pure hatch
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I think you don't know, but i buffed bees heavily

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Wow that sounds selfish kekw

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to the point some had to be nerfed again Trollface

errant tapir
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Guess ill sit here coping and seething then

sullen crow
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those all seem untouched for years

lethal viper
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Love bees

night bronze
errant tapir
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Plutonium and uranium are the big ones

coarse cave
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I thought t is 0.1 for apiary, 0.9 for magic apiary and so on... Was it changed or did I mistake this variable for something else?

lavish sundial
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it was, due to bees rebalance

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not sure if there were any changes since then

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You'd have to read up on the wiki, there should be current formulas and calculations

coarse cave
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Thanks!

coarse cave
# pure hatch Has never been like that

"In 2.2.3, the adjusted probability PERCENT is
min(cms, 100)
where c is the base production chance PERCENT, m is the production modifier from the housing (0.1x for bee house/apiary, 0.9x for unboosted magic apiary, 1.8 for boosted magic apiary, 1 for alveary, iapiary, and mega apiary), frames, stimulators, and beekeeping mode (1x unless you changed it)." - from OP's guide

I also read the same info in wiki a while ago

pure hatch
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t was and is 1 In apiary and alveary, 8 in iApiary and whatever tier you feed your mapiary

coarse cave
lavish sundial
# pure hatch Has never been like that

they were talking about base production multipliers pre rework, 0.1 for apiary, 0.9(1.8) for magical apiary, 1 for alveary and something something for bee house.

past jolt
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it's not even from NH, bees were originally imported from the Beyond Reality modpack kekw

deep belfry
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ill try it at some point later

pure hatch
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Daily reminder to make it UUID based ๐Ÿ˜”

lavish sundial
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inb4 your reset your uuid by accident

pallid hare
deep belfry
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i'd just like to mention that mithril bee, the one mentioned in the mass, is amazing for platinum. It both gives plat combs at a fair chance, and also mithril combs which will become pmp and thaumium dust after you centrifuge the mithril

exotic crag
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Is that new? Iirc there are some new bees (Kevlar, Drake, Infused Gold, maybe Astral Silver but that one's older than Infused Gold, and Latex), plus Salt bee got borax and plat bee got palladium combs

I'm pretty sure mithril bee isn't new, it's definitely an upgrade to nickel/plat for PtMP though

Also the Barnarda E bee is pretty good for niobium, better than apatite bee certainly by the time you can make EV SOCs

deep belfry
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TcetiE planet dust has the best inf cat chance