#Commit Genocide in the Twilight Forest! [Works exclusively NOT in 2.2.7]

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half nest
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The Geneva Convention is more of a suggestion anyway.

[The new EV+ Version that does not work in 2.2.7, but will work in any future versions]
The EEC will be adjusted to give Player-only drops at a reduced chance, which makes it possible to farm the amazing drops of redcap sappers and similar mobs in the EEC. See the item drop table of Redcap Sappers below.

[The Original Version which is Patched as of 2.2.7]
Step 1: Build a (cursed earth) mob farm in a **big **hollow hill in the Twilight Forest.
Step 2: Redcaps & Sappers and other mobs will spawn there. Gather them at one area.
Step 3: Set down a TC dynamism tablet with an unbreakable Tinkers Scythe with Looting III (or Looting IV).
Step 4: You probably want to succ, filter and process items first. Use Coal drops for power.
Step 5: Free Gallium, Aluminium, Steel, Gold, Iron, Diamonds, Coal, all TC shards, Balanced shards, Rubber (from Purple Slime), Mob drops, TC Treasures, XP, TC Aspect orbs and Real Estate. Auto-open TC Treasures with another dynamism tablet for free Primordial Pearls.

[Bonus]
Bonus Step 1: Use XP buckets and EnderIO autocrafters to produce the dusts of Copper, Tin, Nickel, Arsenic, Clay, Glass and Sulfur.
Bonus Step 2: Centrifuge the Lava dropped by Fire Beetles to get Silicon, Tantalum and Manganese.

If you use cursed earth, then for the love of god make Redstone controlled lights or your server will crash.
(Not recommended for big servers anyway)

Available at the nearest Big Hollow Hill, requires MV.

Spoilers show my loot after ~12h of running.

This has been fixed by https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/NewHorizonsCoreMod/pull/432 and no longer works as of version 2.2.7
No more Dynamism shenanigans :(

noble acorn
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waaaait they drop primoridals?

half nest
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I am, you're looking at the normal redcap, not the redcap sapper

grim vigil
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my fault

half nest
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the armor drops damaged though, so it's instantly voided by my system :/

jagged turtle
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Or you can just mine sphalerite in the end

half nest
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Commit Genocide in the Twilight Forest!

woeful drift
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I kinda want to switch to not peaceful now

grim vigil
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I switched to peaceful once

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And my smeltery enderman gone

solemn lantern
grim vigil
solemn lantern
gray prawn
half nest
gaunt whale
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@half nest tried setting this up today and pretty quickly my hopper and chest below the tablet were blown up…does the scythe trigger creepers or the infernal mob “actions” like explosions when they die, etc? how did you get around this?

half nest
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mobGriefing false is also possible, or you can apply enough sharpness to one-shot creepers, or weaken them with wooden spikes, or just blastproof everything and use an obsidian chest

gaunt whale
steel quartz
half nest
half nest
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the tnt is dropped by redcap sappers

regal scaffold
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Will this work with powered spawners?

half nest
regal scaffold
# half nest Yes.

so is it the dynamism tablet that bypasses the usual "does not drop in EEC" based drops?

half nest
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It's effectively just like a player would kill the mob

regal scaffold
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!!!! oooh okay....

gaunt whale
neat tree
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Yeah, are there anti-infernal solutions without adding mods to the pack? I think even with blast proofing, stuff will still break.

jagged vigil
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Pray tell, what is the infernal modifier that drops live TNT? I don't think I've ever seen one of those

vernal nova
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Out or curiosity, is there a reason you used obsidian plates instead of making the scythe out of magical wood then replacing all the parts with Unstable?

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Just made a looting 3 unbreakable scythe with 26 damage unlevelled by doing that and I would've though that was the preferred choice

half nest
# neat tree Yeah, are there anti-infernal solutions without adding mods to the pack? I think...

Not afaik, although the only issues I had so far were: Creepers and Sapper TNT (Fixed with claiming/blastproofing), Endermen picking up cursed earth (Fixed by mobGriefing/2 high ceilings/Wand focus warding) and infernals placing spiderwebs that slow down the mobs (Fixed by placing microblocks or string in these areas). The infernals are actually really useful and the only source of steel.

half nest
neat tree
half nest
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Oh right, the strings get blown up so it won't work, webs only get placed near the tablet though, so you only need to "webproof" the area next to the tablet, doesn't matter if mobs can't spawn there

neat tree
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Can you warding blocks that are transparent?

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If so, warded spectre.

chilly basin
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how do you suck the exp? vacuum hoppers just get blow up

vernal nova
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chunks claimed with FTB utils so no explosions

vernal nova
chilly basin
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that mob grinder makes an obsene amount of clay dust lol

gaunt whale
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for anyone still running into an explosion issue…you may have to go into your ftb utilities config, look for forced explosions and disable that. this stops explosions from happening in claimed chunks and apparently is not on by default

neat tree
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So no solutions without FTBUtils?

vernal nova
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Probably some creative solution with warding or maybe water

tulip harbor
half nest
half nest
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Wooden spikes help with that

chilly basin
neat tree
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Spikes also trigger explosions, I had a whole section of my bad mob farm get slapped by infernals cause it was made of spectre glass.

chilly basin
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good enough? lol

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alright, all that's left to do is make the spawning pads bigger

chilly basin
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oh heck yeah

neat tree
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Is the dynamism tablet itself blast-proof?

chilly basin
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yes

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the spikes too if you want to use them, though i suggest you don't

gaunt whale
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also i’ve had this running for a while and no primordial…do i need to have certain research unlocked in order for them to drop?

chilly basin
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you get the primordial pearls from the treasure bags

chilly basin
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so what could cause this? the grinder is still killing mobs that arrive afterwards but there are a ton of "mobs" still in the killing room

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so it seems that having the tablet 1 tile above the water is unreliable

kindred carbon
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@half nest you should overenchant your reaper

half nest
half nest
kindred carbon
half nest
tulip harbor
chilly basin
chilly basin
kindred carbon
chilly basin
gray prawn
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if you've done magic, the primordial claymore can be used too as you can put it on aer affinity and it can kill everyone in a 4x4 area

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and if you put unbreaking on it it's just as unbreakable (my farm was active 24/7 and never broke)

remote escarp
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u would see for it

pure bone
gray prawn
spark trail
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how do we prevent the redcaps from blowing up?

chilly basin
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place water

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like this should work fine, though you wont be able to have endeman that way

remote escarp
half nest
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Just Coal and ironwood gear

spark trail
chilly basin
spark trail
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using item collector

chilly basin
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that means you are wasting tons of exp lol

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maybe filling it with thaumcraft flux would prevent them from placing tnt but allow enderman to not tp?

golden frost
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how did you get JER in gtnh
i didn't find an older versions

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and which treasure bag drop the pearl
the common and uncommon dont drop them
and i don't thinkk the redcap drop the rare one

spark trail
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i had like 40 rares when coming back today

half nest
half nest
golden frost
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thanks

vernal nova
frozen shard
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It's not JER, it's kubatech or something I think

gaunt whale
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anyone else have the issue where the scythe in the tablet isn’t active when you re-log? i sign back in, do stuff at my base and then visit the farm and the mobs are backed up, it’s swinging but not doing any damage. i have to take it out and put it back in to reactivate

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this is single player btw

orchid iron
half nest
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Lights are placed exactly 3 above the platform, with 2 blocks in between starting 1 from the wall

orchid iron
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Build in test world max 20 fps 💀

half nest
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That's what the lights are for kek2

long shell
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Anyone know if this works in the EEC?

half nest
woven parrot
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I assume the steel and iron is from processing the armor drops?
And that the clay and copper dust is from a different farm?

half nest
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I've played with the idea if setting up an IV Mainframe autoproduction solely with the output of this farm

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It's theoretically possible

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And I'm also producing Tantalum and Manganese with it by centrifuging the lava drops

woven parrot
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a very roundabout source of renewable lava indeed

orchid iron
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Done in survival but i have a question

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if i chunkload farm with ftb chunks

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will it works if no one is in Twilight

half nest
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should be perma loaded by default

faint crow
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How to get corrupt dirt?

spark trail
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cursed earth you mean?

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get a silk shovel, get an enchanting table, kill a wither to get a division sigil

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place enchantment table on dirt

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cover adjacent 8 dirt blocks with redstone

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wait for sigil to glow

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place pig on table

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kill pig

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mine dirt

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run

chilly basin
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though you should keed the lava to centrifuge it into tantalite

chilly basin
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farm got me this lol

sharp jacinth
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sadge

chilly basin
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i'll just bump up the spawn rates until the update hits, no big deal

sharp jacinth
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gladly steelux is on our side

hybrid lake
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huh? check the link... it's all there

spark trail
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no i mean who thought it was a godd idea

tacit ivy
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no fun allowed

orchid iron
tacit ivy
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not even op for the effort invested pensib

half nest
# chilly basin farm got me this lol

Had this glitch a few times, apparently tablet commits sudoku, thus leaving behind a grave containing it's own head, while still existing and functioning normally concern

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Might have something to do with vengeance special mobs.

chilly basin
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this thing is doing great lol

orchid iron
kindred saffron
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So is this still works in 2.2.7?

frozen shard
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I'll never update past the version this works in

half nest
hybrid lake
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hm... made a setup for charms... tablet refuses to hit mobs

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the same tablet with the same weapon)

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any ideas why?)

hybrid lake
half nest
# hybrid lake any ideas why?)

Yea, it can be funky sometimes, might want to reposition it or mess with chunkloading a bit and allow fake players in ftbu

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it has a pretty short range as well and sucks at hitting moving targets

hybrid lake
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nah... it was some sort of permissions on the maze territory

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just made farm to stick the part with table out of maze and it started to hit mobs)

half nest
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Commit Genocide in the Twilight Forest! [Patched as of 2.2.7]

hybrid lake
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sigh

sharp jacinth
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sadge

half nest
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It was fun guys :'-)

sharp jacinth
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sadly fun isn't allowed

hybrid lake
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what was fun about it?

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drops?

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they're gonna be avaliable in EEC soon

orchid iron
frozen shard
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I read the comments on the PR as well, but I don't believe for a second it will actually be added to the EEC. Many drops are clearly marked as not existing in the EEC, so they've already intentionally removed a lot. That's a late game machine anyway. It doesn't make sense to have player only drops in an automation pack, but sometimes the devs prioritize trolling players over all else

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If you're in 2.2.3 though, another good mob to farm is fire beetles for fiery metal which you can burn for fuel in magic energy converters

sharp jacinth
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talked to Dream, he's agrees that custom drop should be automatable, boub confused us and himself about Dreams intentions... he'll think about details later

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smth like that

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so i guess we have some chances

frozen shard
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My opinion doesn't really matter, but I think the best solution would be if the dynamism tablet and killer joe could both get player only drops, but be a little more expensive than they currently are

sharp jacinth
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no

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tablet usable in many cases

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not only mobfarms

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and they'll remove playerdrops from tabler not because of balance but because of code issues

frozen shard
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But there's also golem core "use" to subsume the other uses of dynamism tablets

sharp jacinth
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golems

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eugh

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don't use so awful words in public kid

frozen shard
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Lol golems do be like that huh

hybrid lake
hardy current
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Genocide continues as simulation!

sharp jacinth
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yay now we can simulate genocide

kindred saffron
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So all player drops now will be available in EEC?

sharp jacinth
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yep

kindred saffron
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Good thing, tho i am currently as far from EEC as from stargate

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But it's probably worth it

sharp jacinth
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it really is

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lagless mobfarm that needs only energy to work faster

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what else can man dream of

half nest
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Turns out TNT ignited by a player does player-damage and gives special drops

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This "player-tnt" attribute gets passed to tnt blocks ignited by the player ignited one and so forth

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meaning you can build an infinite chain of explosions that gives you special drops, you just need to feed it one TNT every <4s

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and manually ignite the first one

half nest
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Commit Genocide in the Twilight Forest! [Works exclusively NOT in 2.2.7]

ancient topaz
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should i leave the spawners?

half nest
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Though if you're not planning on staying in 2.2.3 or earlier, building this farm is not really recommended anymore

ancient topaz
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i'm doing it with diamond spikes, i need the rubber from the slimes and regular drops like rotten flesh

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seems better than a regular mob farm, the only problem is that it's in twilight

chilly basin
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i think i'm gona have to tear down lol, the dynamism tablet has started to make my world crash a bunch sadly

lime plinth
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well, now you have a really good scythe yu can upgrade with quartz to one shot the wither or smth

chilly basin
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You dont get any more modifers once you hit lvl 20 or something, it's useless lol

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Also i make stars using salis mundus

topaz niche
zealous frost
lime plinth
waxen pewter
zealous frost
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Kuba nuked that for some reason

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I don’t know why though, it’s a stupid change

waxen pewter
zealous frost
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I thought he nuked both

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Because the rare drops are related to player sim

dawn owl
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what's the rubber from?

lime plinth
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what rubber

topaz niche
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i want miocene epoch tool

half nest
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Also glue, but that's just getting voided at this point

half nest
# zealous frost I thought he nuked both

Some dynamism shenanigans still work, like using a toolbox on a maintenance hatch. Pretty sure it's just the drops that got affected, but idk, I'm still in 2.2.3 kek2

dawn owl
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still? it came out like... wait that was a couple months ago...

grand elk
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dtu klatring

steel estuary
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Btw, what is EEC? 👀

sharp jacinth
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gt mobgrinder

forest flower
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Random guy here

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This doesn’t work post 2.2.7 right?

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(No one will see this message)

chilly basin
forest flower
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so what im hearing is

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find the config file and paste the 2.2.3 one in there

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the drops one fr

half nest
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A config file edit most likely won't be enough to revert this, the devs changed the code to prevent it

forest flower
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That’s what you guys meant

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I thought theychanged the drops if the mobs

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Not changed how the dynamism tablet works

half nest
forest flower
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i may not know java but I know enough c++ to understand java syntax

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time to fuck around

half nest
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Pretty sure you just have to delete the added lines of code

forest flower
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i was looking for the file path in the github and it says its src/main/java/com/dreammaster/modcustomdrops/CustomDropHandler.java but i cant find that path in my modpack

forest flower
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Wait maybe

half nest
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it's in here: \.minecraft\mods\GTNewHorizonsCoreMod-2.1.109.jar\com\dreammaster\modcustomdrops\

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Just open the .jar as an archive with 7zip

forest flower
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your a genius!

forest flower
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when using notepad strange characters are mixed in everywhere because it doesnt support them

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(i mean the file inside modcustomdrops)

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i wonder if its because its a .class instead of .java

half nest
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The contents are compiled code and thus can't be read/edited, you can try and copy an old version .class file and see if it works

forest flower
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oh good idea

forest flower
# half nest The contents are compiled code and thus can't be read/edited, you can try and co...

https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/NewHorizonsCoreMod/commit/e0e5b8df9a32e3c1b09f609e4cfc6a24904c92ab#diff-3dc1754aa2b4bc6cf0fdb1922d65e1f6d4bddd90783748ff8142f3a590b2181e

I havent tested this yet, but I copied the class from 2.2.3 to it and decided to look over the commits to the file besides the change weve been talking about.

the link above shows the only commit to it post the change and looking through im thinking it was just useless code that got removed so hopefully nothing breaks

GitHub
  • remove dead code

  • bump GT5U version

  • use enums (part 1)

  • spotless

  • use enums (part 2)

  • bump GT version

  • migrate from the temmporary enum to the new enum

  • migrate forgo...

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actually looking through they did change it to use enums but since it still has what it needs imported that shouldnt break it i think?

forest flower
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New plan I shall just compile the edited code form GitHub and use that

forest flower
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That would give me the .class

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not just compling and running

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wait

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if i use javac on ubuntu

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i bet i can do it

forest flower
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Cool I did it

forest flower
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Once I cleared out an area in a large hollow hill the sappers stopped spawning that’s wierd

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Not even normal redcaps

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Just kobalds and such

chilly basin
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hollow hill only goes down to a certain Y level, the farm needs to spawn mobs high enough

forest flower
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kobolds are spawning tho

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just not redcaps

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@chilly basin do you think each mob has different y level requirments in the hill?

chilly basin
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kobolds spawn anywhere underground

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just raise the floor 1 tile at a time and see when they start spawning again

forest flower
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You probably just saved me

kind raven
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Does this still work?

forest flower
half nest
forest flower
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whats the config in FTButil that needs to be changed?

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i changed a - to a + for this one setting and stuff still gets blown up

forest flower
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I’m also having a cobweb problem

half nest
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if that doesn't work just disable mobGriefing

half nest
forest flower
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Is that only in single player

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Like for a server do you have to go into the files for it?

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Idk

half nest
grave glade
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for anyone else trying to make farms like this, redcaps/beetles spawn where standing says y=30 at minimum
(at least for this hill, idk if it's different per hill, but i imagine it's probably not, since twilight is completely flat)

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(i didn't test maximum Y yet)

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and as for horizontal range, they seem to spawn within the approximate bounds of the hollow hill
(i properly extended the cursed earth further afterwards and there was nothing, mostly enderminis)

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it's really sounding like this is the most lucrative farm in MV, going off those original screenshots, cant wait to get one running

old crater
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i know this a very old thread is kinda farm still viable in more modern versions ?

half nest
old crater
half nest
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I don't know if you can get alu this way, but rubber via slime definetely works

old crater
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u can get alu from kobolds

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however dia spieks dont wokr due to the drop being only player drops

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i know dia spikes simulate player kill but on the mobs tooltip it says hard locked to player only kills to get the drops

half nest
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Then alu is impossible - even with scythe + tablet

old crater
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Auto clicker + scythe with lifesteal works

half nest
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Yes, that works

old crater
half nest
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be careful with pinch beetles though, they can be buggy with their grab range

old crater
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hm thats something id have to figure out in testing, ty

drifting birch
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You could make a vanilla mob sorter to drop pinch beetles into another kill chamber.

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It would probably take some investigation to figure out how to get just the pinch beetles and not other similarly shaped mobs.

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You could also make the wall you stand behind made of the glass that players can walk through but mobs cannot. Then, on the far side of the kill chamber you can have a double piston extender that can push you at least to the wall. I'm not quite sure how you could get yourself pushed completely through to the other side of the wall, but you could probably figure something out. Maybe the bottom of the glass wall drops into a chamber below everything and then bounce pads can automatically take you all the way back to the farming area? Anyway, you trigger the Pistons with a player detector. That way if you end up inside the chamber by any means, you get pushed out of it immediately.

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I'm not quite sure what happens to the pinch beetle if you get pushed through such a wall though.

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If you have some source of fire resistance like the pigman backpack, then you could have your passive standing location be in lava. That ought to take care of any pinch beetles if they get pushed through the wall with you

old crater
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the way i had it setup was all the mobs would fall into a pool of water and then be pushed towards me, i was sat in a hole in water for fire dmg hitting through a half slab hole
i would have to test for at least like an hour to see if i dont get touched by a beettle

gusty zephyr
half nest
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Though if they do not spawn at all then your spawn area Y-level might be too high/low

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The actual hollow hill and the space in which they can spawn in can be somewhat disjointed

gusty zephyr
grave glade
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yea back then I didn't really consider the possibility of the Y value being unique per-hill

grave glade
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funny looking back on this stuff

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I guess they've nerfed the drops since then, but I'm sure it's still valuable in some way, like witch circle spawner farms

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reprocessed metals from infernals, and maybe infinite rubber slime from beetles, if it drops

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still a huge volume of drops, by the nature of cursed earth farms

half nest
vivid granite
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I was wondering if there was a video walking through this setup/showing how to get it built and running? I'd like to implement this in my world as I'm almost at MV and this seems invaluable

remote escarp
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is there an alternative way to get player only drops without ... the player?

vivid granite
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and this has to be done in one of the big hills? Do i need to build around spawners or anything like that?

Also i noticed that it recommends using the EEC now, can this even be done in MV?