#CN0T-VYJ7 - The Bog by Bojack

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dull reef
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I feel like theres been something similar before

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Is this a completely fresh level Bojo

neon anvil
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reused the tree on the left

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but other than that yeah completely fresh

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The colour palette has been used a bunch before tho

dull reef
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Now I see what you meant when i asked you about hazard placement

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Pretty interesting stuff

neon anvil
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ty Mango

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I do still think more aggressive hazard placements can be useful

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but very difficult to do it in a way that doesn't make some players advantaged

teal lake
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Really don’t like this it isn’t bad it’s just kind of low effort and not special.

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Especially for bojack

neon anvil
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Unfortunately I have to be nice to you because you are still a child, but I think life will become easier for you to navigate if you either think before you say things or put in some amount of effort to be kind to people

dull reef
teal lake
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I said my opinion once

dull reef
teal lake
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There a difference between having a style and being a bad builder

dull reef
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Like look at prism avenue. Super similar imho but does the job perfectly

teal lake
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I don’t like prism avenue

dull reef
teal lake
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No

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I’m saying that his style isn’t the problem his effort and how good he is is the problem

neon anvil
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To be honest McLeish you not liking this is more confirmation to me that I am doing a good job, but regardless of what you think saying this kind of stuff about things people put out isn't normal or acceptable

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beyond being a violation of the community's rules and social standards, I hope you someday manage to work on yourself

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for your own sake

teal lake
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What did I say I just said that I didn’t like the level and its lownrffort and you guys started confronting me

teal lake
dull reef
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Its just not low effort though

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It doesnt need to be special though and honestly i would say i just kinda fw the gameplay and Bojacks art

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Maybe i would go so far to say its better than yours, who knows?

teal lake
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Unmet I never do want any beef I don’t really think I said anything too egregious here

dull reef
# teal lake What did I say I just said that I didn’t like the level and its lownrffort and y...

Actually, you know what? We should not let this slide. As a creator and builder especially you have the responsibility to treat other peoples projects with respect.
Do you think of yourself so highly that you can go around and call things low effort and not special like its nothing? Thats an insult, straight up. How would you know the process behind a level? What makes you say it has to be high effort or special? In the end it does not matter. It does not matter if someone took one hour or ten to build a map and thats especially true in Bojacks builds.
He is not even trying to make the most extravagant map and yet here you are judging by arbitrary criteria.

If you want to criticize something at least have some reasoning - this is not the way.
Dont have me explain why this level is as good as it is. Regardless of your perspective on level creation this is simply not the way to comment on things, ever.

scenic marlin
teal lake
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Alright unmet have your little yappathon , I said it because it’s my opinion and I didn’t like the level, and I didn’t like the level because it felt meanness, similiar to other levels and boring but I’m not allowed to say that because your pssy ass is far too fragile to have anybody have to take a single bit of criticism , even if it’s just an opinion.

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Phweah Phweah Phweah are uou talking about

neon anvil
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eh...

dull reef
neon anvil
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@karmic vector he's goin mcleish mode again

valid vine
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absolute cinema

dull reef
neon anvil
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lol

teal lake
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wtf do you mean I’m fried don’t act like that was at all a bad opinion

teal lake
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Alright bro what are we doing here

dull reef
weary raft
teal lake
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You guys should reread the whole argument I swear I’m not fried at all

scenic marlin
dull reef
neon anvil
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nah fried is synonymous with stupid/dumb

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its derived from being high

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like if you're fried you're high, and when someone says smth dumb while high you say they're fried

scenic marlin
cursive arrow
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this level is really cool bojack, good job 😎

dull reef
neon anvil
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anyways

scenic marlin
neon anvil
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since opinions are fair play my opinion is that mcleish doesn't need to be welcome in the uch community

weary raft
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This level is cool.

neon anvil
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ignoring this entirely I feel like I've seen him bein transphobic and breaking rules enough times

weary raft
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Wait what?

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Oh.

teal lake
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What is this we’re just hating for the sake of hating because you people are salty

patent ember
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I like the shading on the clouds

scenic marlin
teal lake
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When was I ever transphobic?

cursive arrow
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i think you misgender a lot iirc

neon anvil
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yeah

teal lake
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… that’s not really very transphobic guys

neon anvil
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in cases where it's clear enough it kinda has to be intentional

valid vine
cursive arrow
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tho i think its unintentional as i think he just defaults to calling everyone "he"

neon anvil
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idk I don't have a dog in this race, I'm just stating my personal opinion because there are no implications or consequences for doing that

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I'm not fried!

teal lake
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Even if it was intentional it isn’t a GIANT deal, like yeah it sucks but really it’s just very annoying at the worst messing up pronouns I mean

neon anvil
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?

valid vine
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what

weary raft
scenic marlin
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huh

teal lake
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Why are we question marking it

scenic marlin
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Guys

pine steeple
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damn mcleish defo making an alt after this one

keen coral
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BANGER

valid vine
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you can stop rage baiting now

scenic marlin
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can we PLease change the topic

teal lake
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Im not getting banned

valid vine
pine steeple
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nice map btw

pine steeple
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especially the start

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it looks so natural

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I fw these kind of things

neon anvil
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trans ppl should feel safe in our community 👍

teal lake
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Who isn’t safe around me what am I going to do????

valid vine
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Bochad

teal lake
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Come to their house????

keen coral
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wait what did I miss

cursive arrow
teal lake
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Say the f word??

scenic marlin
cursive arrow
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come to my house mf

neon anvil
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scroll up its a movie fr

keen coral
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cant

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in a game rn

pine steeple
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new beef on the server chat

keen coral
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I NEED a summary

teal lake
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They’re being oops but basically I said that this level was bad and they got mad so I got mad at unmet for being too yappy

valid vine
neon anvil
# keen coral I NEED a summary

basically started as mcleish saying my level is bad.
I told him that's not really an acceptable thing to say to someone posting a level
unmei was defendin me and mcleish started goin mcleish mode

cursive arrow
neon anvil
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then it escalated naturally

keen coral
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but what abt the phobic part

neon anvil
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that didnt happen here, mcleish just misgenders ppl all the time in cases where its pretty clearly intentional

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then defended it by saying intentional misgendering isnt that bad lol

teal lake
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And then unmet started bringing my maps into it

cursive arrow
neon anvil
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mcleish... you know uninvited criticism is already against the rules right

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like even ignoring the other stuff

pine steeple
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🍿😎

scenic marlin
lusty cedar
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Mcleish you saying BOJACK is low effort??

neon anvil
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🍿

teal lake
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I just said my opinion and you guys criticized me!

lusty cedar
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First of all I like the map

teal lake
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I’ll reply to what I first said

lusty cedar
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Second of all bojack might be the person who puts in the most effort to the whole community

lusty cedar
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Definitely top 3

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This is a good map

dull reef
lusty cedar
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Not only that you’re just dissing bojack for no reason

neon anvil
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it is ok dont make this one about me lol

teal lake
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I said it was low effort and not special

neon anvil
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I would rather this be about mcleish's pattern of negative behaviour

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I dont care that he dissed my map that much it was defs a bit annoying

lusty cedar
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Mcleish you gotta realise you aren’t above everyone else

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I can’t keep defending you every single time

neon anvil
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but I think the issue is that mcleish has had issues in the past and continues this pattern of behaviour

teal lake
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wtf what did I do honestly

lusty cedar
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I’m talking about the last few months as a whole

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Not just this map

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You’ve been timesdmultiple times

teal lake
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Yeah yeah yeah

neon anvil
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yeah tbh I couldn't figure out what I wanted to put there

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everything I tried just looked pretty cluttered

dull reef
visual canyon
cursive arrow
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maybe some deadbushes on the left ChickenShrug

teal lake
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Did you know what?

lusty cedar
neon anvil
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true bushes could work

weary raft
teal lake
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I never even said that

lusty cedar
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You could have done this to anyone at this point and you would have got the same backlash

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Idc what you said

neon anvil
weary raft
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A HOUSE.

teal lake
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I never said otherwise but like what is this

weary raft
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A house in the left circle yes.

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I would do that.

lusty cedar
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I’m talking in general mcleish

scenic marlin
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my tongue is cooked

dull reef
teal lake
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Can somebody please read the whole thing and tell me I’m right

keen coral
keen coral
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youre left

lusty cedar
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Obviously people defend bojack because it’s him but like you can’t keep going at people for no reason

scenic marlin
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And you should know that

patent ember
lusty cedar
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You do it to new players, casual players, and the whole spectrum of comp players

keen coral
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I dont think this is about bojack

lusty cedar
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I’m not talking about bojack

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Idgaf about the map

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Respectfully bojack

neon anvil
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no thats for the better LOL

teal lake
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I didn’t like the mal

pine steeple
teal lake
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And I didn’t even say anything remotely bad until unmet hit us with that yap seagull

dull reef
teal lake
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Session

crisp fulcrum
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bojack join the 5 player lobby and we play party on Bog

lusty cedar
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I’m talking about the last 2 or 3 months where you’ve just gone after someone random for no reason

dull reef
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Stop saying that

orchid grail
cursive arrow
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has cardinal been spectating this whole time 😭

lusty cedar
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Like bro it’s an ultimate chicken horse server

primal yoke
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whats happening

neon anvil
lusty cedar
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Nothing is that deep

teal lake
primal yoke
primal yoke
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tottaly

keen coral
crisp fulcrum
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defo not peak

keen coral
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IT IS

crisp fulcrum
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code geass is not that good

keen coral
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rAHH

neon anvil
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its quite good

keen coral
primal yoke
lusty cedar
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Going after people on a server for a kids game is actually the lowest of the low

teal lake
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I’m not even a kid

primal yoke
dull reef
scenic marlin
lusty cedar
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I’m done defending you mcleish honestly

cursive arrow
lusty cedar
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Until you lock in and realise that everything isn’t that deep

dull reef
dull reef
lusty cedar
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I’m on his side basically everytime because I brought bro into the game to start with

scenic marlin
primal yoke
dull reef
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Actually leash

neon anvil
primal yoke
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💀💀💀💀💀😭😭😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

neon anvil
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like bar for bar you're even usin the word

teal lake
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This is so cooked idek what to say when I can’t get a single word through here

dull reef
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Fym

scenic marlin
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fr

dull reef
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Youre tryna gaslight us or sum?

scenic marlin
dull reef
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I talked to you one on one before

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What are you on about

lusty cedar
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I got you into the comp side of the game, you were chill with everyone for about a year and now you’ve suddenly switched up

primal yoke
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mcleish farming arguments😭

lusty cedar
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It’s so over

keen coral
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"the council cannot condone such unlawful behavior"

teal lake
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There’s a 0perxent chance that I’m going to win this arguement even if it was evident that I was right now because you people are all set against me

dull reef
cursive arrow
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get judge judy on ts

primal yoke
dull reef
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How do you defend “its low effort”

lusty cedar
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Everyone here has seen you argue with random people for no reason

dull reef
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Dont just dodge that

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You literally said that

teal lake
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Saying it’s low effort is NOT a bad thing at all

dull reef
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Elaborate

scenic marlin
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It is

lusty cedar
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I’m done with this

cursive arrow
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it is tho???

teal lake
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Like how is that considered slightly bad

dull reef
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Let him cook

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Is high effort a compliment?

cursive arrow
teal lake
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I said it was low effort because I thought it was low effort and I was sharing my opinion

primal yoke
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low effort means that you didnt put much into it

neon anvil
valid vine
keen coral
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him hating is just his opinion

dull reef
primal yoke
scenic marlin
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everyone is speaking facts except for mcliesh

dull reef
pine steeple
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I would say something sooo ofensive rn

keen coral
primal yoke
dull reef
orchid grail
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mcleish u should have worded what u said differently

cursive arrow
lusty cedar
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else I would have crashed out by now

dull reef
scenic marlin
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Kyatta giving him to many chances

keen coral
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shouldnt we all shift down a gear no matter what happened

teal lake
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Alright man what are we fr or is this just a joke like honestly

lusty cedar
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You keep f’ing up

keen coral
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YOU GOT US MCLEISH!!! this is all just a ragebait 😄

lusty cedar
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And it’s all your fault for arguing with people

teal lake
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No I don’t bro what

pine steeple
dull reef
valid vine
dull reef
primal yoke
keen coral
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he does

dusky ridge
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So this is why British and Irish people say not to go into the bog

keen coral
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"soo anyways" ahh

teal lake
keen coral
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"what did I stumble into"

dusky ridge
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I was lurking this whole time 😭

primal yoke
dull reef
teal lake
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How many times has everyone here criticized a map but when I do it once it’s a tragedy

scenic marlin
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what is that lady doing

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💀

primal yoke
visual canyon
pine steeple
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bro waited for entire argument to heat up for that message 😭🙏🏿

keen coral
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"you worded it rudely also the past" ~some guy in this argument thats not me

dusky ridge
pine steeple
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fair

primal yoke
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just bc someone misses somthing doesnt mean its low effort😭

keen coral
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good to know

dusky ridge
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Had to catch up first

scenic marlin
dull reef
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Honestly Kyatta just being online and saying nothing is lowkey peak?!

teal lake
cursive arrow
pine steeple
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nah bros dragging it at this point

keen coral
primal yoke
neon anvil
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its not like kyatta would need to wait for mcleish to say something bad to ban him

teal lake
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Alright guys I don’t even know how I’m meant to defend myself rn I’ve explained myself a million times like what more am I meant to do

neon anvil
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hes said plenty of bad things in the past

keen coral
dull reef
valid vine
scenic marlin
keen coral
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sooo... thoughts about using AI for uch levels?

dull reef
orchid grail
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oooh

crisp fulcrum
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Globi did _______ ______

keen coral
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fighting words

valid vine
cursive arrow
pine steeple
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allat will be remembered as The Bog incident

orchid grail
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unmei drop the babysitting act now

lusty cedar
scenic marlin
primal yoke
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you dont know the meaning of low effort

teal lake
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Like why man

neon anvil
dull reef
primal yoke
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if you miss something it doesnt mean its low effort

neon anvil
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though he has said similar things on other ppls posts

teal lake
dull reef
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This is a real thing and it’s constantly and consistently happening morf. Wrong thing is to just look past that

keen coral
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correction, "all you did TODAY"

lusty cedar
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Mcleish you think it’s “just a negative thing” BRO YOU SAID LOW EFFORT, no one else here would even think about saying that to anyone

teal lake
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Also unmet what’s so bad about it being an insult,

scenic marlin
lusty cedar
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You know how degrading that is to someone’s work

valid vine
lusty cedar
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You lucky you did it to someone who doesn’t care about your opinion

dull reef
teal lake
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And it was more of a criticism, bojack could add some more time and effort to his levels and make them much better

neon anvil
teal lake
primal yoke
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its like saying a challenge map is low effort bc they missed a more fun setup

visual canyon
dull reef
lusty cedar
keen coral
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imagine a burglar who has stolen purses for years. Shall he not be going to prison for many months just because he stole one more purse?

teal lake
pine steeple
teal lake
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Meant to be taken to consideration and be helpful

lusty cedar
dusky ridge
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Dude that's not constructive in the slightest what are you ON ABOUT

lusty cedar
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If I was a random person and I put let’s say 4 hours into a map and you said that I think I would leave the server

teal lake
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Aahhhhhh low effort bad tomato (British) tomato

keen coral
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lost it

valid vine
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alr nice knowing everyone im getting banned cya

scenic marlin
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ban him

dull reef
teal lake
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Bojack isn’t a random person

pine steeple
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.rule4

old islandBOT
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Rule 04 | No hateful and offensive content
Do not troll, bully, insult, harass, agitate, etc. No toxicity and do not purposefully create drama.

primal yoke
valid vine
primal yoke
lusty cedar
neon anvil
scenic marlin
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Why kyatta letting dis slide

lusty cedar
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And I’ve seen it bro

teal lake
dull reef
lusty cedar
orchid grail
teal lake
primal yoke
dull reef
scenic marlin
teal lake
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They aren’t going to affect bojack when all I said was it was low effort

visual canyon
dull reef
cursive arrow
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mcleish... youre only making things worse the more you speak

teal lake
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Guys just don’t diss me if I leave soon because k might have to go to dinner soon

cursive arrow
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please just admit youre wrong & try to move on

scenic marlin
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bro😭

dull reef
primal yoke
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i just think you dont know the meaning of low effort

keen coral
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dragging it, just let it go 🙏

lusty cedar
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Ah yes, constructive criticism

blazing dome
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426 messages❓ ❗

teal lake
neon anvil
scenic marlin
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overrated you said?

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wild

dull reef
lusty cedar
teal lake
lusty cedar
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All of unmeis maps

scenic marlin
blazing dome
dull reef
primal yoke
teal lake
scenic marlin
dull reef
teal lake
scenic marlin
lusty cedar
cursive arrow
keen coral
lusty cedar
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Ah yes constructive criticism

teal lake
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Yeah just bringing up the dinner thing again I might have to go soon

lusty cedar
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When that map is better than any party map mcleish could make

keen coral
dull reef
# lusty cedar

Snow made in no time vs putting too much time into perfecting details MonkeyTroll

valid vine
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honestly the only thing that could save mcleish for me at this point is an asbergers diagnosis

blazing dome
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why dont we just ban the Mcdonald's dude already?

primal yoke
keen coral
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lets not get too personal

teal lake
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No it isn’t what you can’t just lie to prove a lying point

keen coral
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please guys

dull reef
lusty cedar
dull reef
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Youre not any better if youre going for personal insults

scenic marlin
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And his maps kinda getting repetitive you know

primal yoke
teal lake
lusty cedar
primal yoke
scenic marlin
keen coral
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the honored ones 🙏

dull reef
primal yoke
dull reef
teal lake
lusty cedar
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You lowkey hating on the water

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But still

dull reef
keen coral
crisp fulcrum
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I think you all have yet to approach the root of the problem, I believe mcleish leaves these negative comments to get attention and have someone to talk to. Always an instant conversation starter.

lusty cedar
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Funny thing is the two messages about unmei wasn’t even what I was looking for

teal lake
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It looks like water and you guys will all be biased because of peer pressure and everybody against me right now

visual canyon
keen coral
scenic marlin
dull reef
teal lake
lusty cedar
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It does look like water but that’s not the point

keen coral
lusty cedar
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Imo atleast

dull reef
crisp fulcrum
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you guys need to stop rewarding negativity with attention

primal yoke
keen coral
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GOTTA be andesite

crisp fulcrum
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and they also need to stop being negative

teal lake
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Ask yolow I told him about the water making method before I published that map

orchid grail
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so we moved from beefing mcleish to arguing about water on a level.

lusty cedar
dull reef
neon anvil
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"Dad what was the bog incident like?"

dull reef
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No let my yolow live without this

scenic marlin
teal lake
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Alright I’m going to bring it up again I might have to go soon after dinner don’t diss me because I left and call me a pissy when I just had to eat dinner

dull reef
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Wasnt about to

lusty cedar
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But you need to fix up

orchid grail
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coming from chopped chin

lusty cedar
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It’s a server for ultimate chicken horse and you beefing people for no reason

lusty cedar
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Let’s be real it doesn’t really matter

primal yoke
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true

dull reef
scenic marlin
lusty cedar
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But I’ve seen you make new people leave the server

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I remember that day

dull reef
lusty cedar
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And that’s too far

orchid grail
scenic marlin
dusky ridge
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Why does level sharing have to be so cruel all the time

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We need to kiss and make up

dull reef
dusky ridge
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Secret Santa 5 when?

lusty cedar
orchid grail
blazing dome
primal yoke
dull reef
dull reef
dusky ridge
lusty cedar
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not too sure

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you might be able to search and find it idk

scenic marlin
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I hope mcleish get a dream about this

dull reef
primal yoke
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what communities has bro been too😭🙏

lusty cedar
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he just started beefing a random guy for no reason and I haven’t seen the guy say anything since so I presume he left

dusky ridge
orchid grail
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so the ppl who didnt see the level (me) has to scroll up smhsmh

scenic marlin
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Kreuz forgot to change into his alt

orchid grail
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wait nvm

keen coral
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forgot to change into my mcleish alt

lusty cedar
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Nothing special

keen coral
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and that hes a bad builder

lusty cedar
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😭

scenic marlin
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don't tell him chat

keen coral
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I dont think so tbh

scenic marlin
lusty cedar
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mcleish is a good builder

pine steeple
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mcleish is a good builder but a bad thinker

lusty cedar
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But mcleish you gotta fix up with the way you talk to others

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This isn’t your friends group chat buddy

scenic marlin
lusty cedar
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And on that note

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The dust has settled

dull reef
scenic marlin
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Ok lets compliment this level

blazing dome
keen coral
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So whos playing rl with me

scenic marlin
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Tbh, I love the clouds. It looks 3d which is really cool fr

keen coral
lusty cedar
blazing dome
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Im guessing mcdonald guy aint getting any attention in real life so hes trolling

lusty cedar
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no one wants to play with your washed ahh bro

patent ember
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I think the metal hole things (not sure what they're called) are a good design choice and improve upon the gameplay while also fitting the level's design

scenic marlin
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Do yall like the blocks design in toxic waste

dull reef
patent ember
dull reef
orchid grail
#

lets not flood this chat

dull reef
#

Thats a classic

patent ember
scenic marlin
#

592 comments man

keen coral
#

Ah toxic waste I see

scenic marlin
#

lets not make it 600

keen coral
#

Its p cool

scenic marlin
lusty cedar
#

Kreuz you gotta stop them flocking in to your rocket league lobby

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One at a time ladies

keen coral
#

Stand in line please

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Yep youre in, no, no, you uhh nope

valid vine
#

how good is kreuz in rl

dull reef
keen coral
neon anvil
lusty cedar
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Yeah I lied

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He’s high GC

valid vine
#

crazy

keen coral
#

CG*

neon anvil
#

should be SSL tbh

lusty cedar
#

nearly there

keen coral
#

Rlcs arc coming soon

lusty cedar
#

just needs to put in a few more hours

keen coral
#

really?

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You think so🥺🥹

lusty cedar
#

No you suck

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You like gold at best

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Please improve

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Thank you, Alex

keen coral
#

Coming from a wannabe champ🙏😭

lusty cedar
#

Champ 1 isn’t wannabe broski

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The real deal right there

scenic marlin
dull reef
keen coral
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Youre in on of these "do these players really deserve the rank they think they do" videos and you fail MISERABLY

lusty cedar
#

I believe I could hit champ 2

neon anvil
#

champ 1 is 5'11 champ 2 is 6'0

lusty cedar
neon anvil
#

not even close

lusty cedar
scenic marlin
keen coral
#

Plat 2 is 6'5

lusty cedar
#

you were plat 2 back in the 60’s

scenic marlin
dull reef
#

This is yap

keen coral
#

Im not the youngest no more kiddo

lusty cedar
dull reef
#

Just # off topic bruh

lusty cedar
#

Mods exterminate us

scenic marlin
#

Jk i'm 5'7

keen coral
#

@kyyata

lusty cedar
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@karmic vector

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move these peasants

valid vine
#

aura 🗿

scenic marlin
#

Please no

neon anvil
#

I say the bog becomes the new offtopic

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let nature heal

scenic marlin
keen coral
#

Youre farming messages atp

lusty cedar
scenic marlin
#

24 hrs not enough fr

lusty cedar
#

for the length of my rocket league ban

dusky ridge
weary raft
#

654 messages. 💀

lusty cedar
dusk elm
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@compettive 1-2 games

lusty cedar
#

he told mcleish to say smthn stupid just to get more messages

scenic marlin
neon anvil
#

it was all a clever reuse

scenic marlin
#

Like who summoned you

lusty cedar
#

ember 🐷

dusky ridge
cursive arrow
#

why is my name in your mouth this time flopp

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elebant ChickenScream

lusty cedar
#

like how bojack was in on the Fisz plan and it was all for stream clout

lusty cedar
cursive arrow
#

true

lusty cedar
scenic marlin
lusty cedar
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Embers such a bad person am I right guys

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Chat revival failed

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It’s joever

dusky ridge
#

Go home, flopp

dusk elm
#

put the fries in the bag

lusty cedar
#

😔

valid vine
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nt fadopp

mental phoenix
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I am Sans Undertale. This level looks sick, man.

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I would play

teal lake
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Holy smokes man I’m glad that the evilness isn’t that bad but like it wasn’t me ignoring you and I specially told all of you that and not to mistake it for me being shy

dusk elm
teal lake
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Nothing

cursive arrow
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ya know what, just stop talking about this

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we need to stop this conversation now

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kyatta close the chat

mental phoenix
teal lake
#

Brainwashed by the people you have been. How is everybody hating on me

valid vine
#

i thought the movie was over hold on

teal lake
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The movie is over

hybrid tusk
#

Oh boy another bojack level what a delight. I sure hope theres no several 100 message long arguments

teal lake
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Chill photobomb to end thr arguement

scenic marlin
#

Wow, this lokks cool

dusk elm
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peak

valid vine
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very very good

neon anvil
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not the vibe I am going for

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and posting your own edit of what you would do to make someone elses level better is kinda weird idk

visual tinsel
#

This is the stuff that makes me and other people on the outside not want to engage or have anything to do with ya'll as a community.

  • 1 this conversation has been massively blown out of the water for what it needed to be and so many more people got involved than needed to for a constructive outcome to be achieved (I am aware I am just adding one more voice to a chocophonous din, but I have some thought through reflected on input which I think should be heard.
  • 2 this entire chat boils down to 1 person insulting a person cause you dislike the aesthetic of a level they've made and are refusing to apologise.

As much of an ass that it makes you out to be, this entire conversation could've been managed by mods behind the scenes giving a clear explanation on why that's not okay to conduct yourself in the community and a warning not to do it again.

If someone cannot understand that there is a massive difference between saying: "Nice level - but it personally doesn't do it for me." and "I this is bad, low effort and not that special" after being carefully explained to how it could make others feel. Or refuses to appologise even if they don't empathise with the opinion... Well, this community needs to be less scared of just banning people for being a negative influence and presence.

In this instance it was Bojack and I doubt it would happen with anyone who isn't pre-established in the community. But what message does it send to little timmy when you call their work low-effort (or lazy by McLeish own admission of what low effort means to them).

A lot of the UCH community are young or children - but children still have some level of culpability and responsibility to be better people. They will screw up more and will ocasionally need more support - but they are also more likely to change. However that should happen in a structured environment through moderation since there is a massive issue with community dogpiling.

Everyone's actions here have been a discoraging sign.

neon anvil
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if I were asking for feedback that's fine...

neon anvil
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np

neon anvil
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criticism is for those who ask for it

visual tinsel
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Agreed

neon anvil
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and regardless yeah this probably wouldnt blow up the same way if it were on someone elses level, but looking at the images of mcleish doing similar things with other people

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its still not acceptable behaviour

visual tinsel
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But it's definetly much less agregious and damaging than what had been said

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This has been happening continuously?

neon anvil
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yeah look at what has been posted above from flopp and myself

teal lake
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What nah

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Look at everything if you’re going to look at something

hybrid tusk
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Mcleish has been on a bad behaviour spiral for like the past couple months

neon anvil
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^

teal lake
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Not really fair to only look at it from the point of bojack

hybrid tusk
teal lake
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It’s subjective whether it’s rude or arrogant

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I don’t think it was

hybrid tusk
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😭😭

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You are pretty harsh now

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Way more than you used to be

teal lake
#

Ig

visual tinsel
#

Like I'm don't wanna backseat mod the community - but if none of the mods have confronted McLeish about this behaviour wth is wrong with you. It is also not okay for moderation to be managed in this social form of community justice. If someone refuses to address their behaviour regardless of their social positioning they should be banned from the discord or at least timmed out. It is doing no-one a favour for this kind of behaviour to be one of the first things people see when joing the community and can be actually quite damaging to individuals mh (ESPECIALLY SINCE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE UCH COMMUNITY ARE CHILDREN).

scenic marlin
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Fr celie

orchid grail
# teal lake It’s subjective whether it’s rude or arrogant

You giving your own negative opinion on someone else's level IS rude and arrogant. You are making it seem as if you can do this in no time and that you are the best one out there. Just respect other ppls levels even if u dislike the style. You don't need to comment on what u dislike because it comes across as rude and makes you an unlikeable human.

teal lake
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I hereby apologize to my actions. I, McLeish, take back the words I said to bojack.

mental phoenix
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Why is this still going?? Can we all just like chill out, man

cursive arrow
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sans get out of this please

mental phoenix
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👍

teal lake
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Succumbing to the villain in my eyes but alright

scenic marlin
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I dont think you mean it actaully tho

hybrid tusk
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Just your poor mindset

teal lake
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I want to say that I do mean it but it’s hard when I’m being forced to apologize even after my constant self justification for the actions I took

hybrid tusk
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You could be literally any nicer than that

neon anvil
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I think there isnt much value in continuing the discussion

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let the mods handle it

teal lake
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By self justification I mean like trying to make sure people see my perspective and making sure people can try to understand me

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Not making myself feel better

scenic marlin
teal lake
scenic marlin
teal lake
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You ain’t za mod lokirs

scenic marlin
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ik

teal lake
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Celine is though

scenic marlin
teal lake
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I think so

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Nvm actually

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Turns out she isn’t

cursive arrow
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yeah they've never been

scenic marlin
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Celie should be then

visual tinsel
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I am not a mod so it's not my call - but as a now outsider to the community I would. Done being on this server, hope things improve.

teal lake
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Yeah what

cursive arrow
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i get it

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not the first time theyve left the server tbf

teal lake
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Wait Celie before you leave why did you type all of that if you weren’t a mod

cursive arrow
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they already left

scenic marlin
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Well I know why they leaving

teal lake
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Holy quick a Miley

scenic marlin
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Mcleish fault or no

teal lake
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No it’s not my fault

cursive arrow
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stop.

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please.

orchid grail
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he'll be banned soon enough

scenic marlin
teal lake
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Since when has morfin been okay with banning me

karmic vector
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i've seen enough

lusty cedar
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Wha

karmic vector
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banned

novel umbra
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muted him the first time we interacted in a game

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kid needs to chill

lusty cedar
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he treated the server as if he was best friends with everyone and everyone had the same humour as him

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and when he realised they didn’t, he kept going anyway

dull reef
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#1335358453237157889 message

gentle bone
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wow 790 comments?!? everyone must love this level!

gaunt radish
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Ok.

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McLeish obviously had the right to criticize the level, but stating that the level is boring and bad on an "objective truth" is not criticism

What the hell did I just read.

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(Im not going to comment on McLeish's levels which look like a vomit of 1x1s on the screen but this level of attitude he had was crazy)

fierce kite
#

this is a peak book

scenic marlin
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Every one was involved fr

fierce kite
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wheres the best part when he gets banned? 🍿

scenic marlin
fierce kite
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u could have just said scroll up from the bottom but whatever

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peak book,

scenic marlin
fierce kite
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its right there tho

scenic marlin
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Where it all started

fierce kite
scenic marlin
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That's what the link for

fierce kite
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k

crisp fulcrum
#

Now it’s time for constructive criticism youknowicattodoittoem

normal charm
#

why does everything happen in level chats

scenic marlin
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but idk why i didnt

fierce kite
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idk why we cannot use the right channels

scenic marlin
fierce kite
scenic marlin
normal charm
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i'm done watching the movie

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the beef was so strong it revived globi

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but we lost celie in the conflict

lusty cedar
lusty cedar
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so if it started in here it’s prolly gonna end in here too

gaunt radish
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yall did good by staying here you contained the toxicity

lusty cedar
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wouldn’t want the beef to fade away

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that would really put us at a low point

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gotta keep it as massive as possible

normal charm
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mcleish ban was just a matter of time anyway

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you should see what he said in the celeste discord

lusty cedar
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Was it worse in there than in here?

normal charm
lusty cedar
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😭

normal charm
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i looked this up after the recent timeout

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how do you get this heated over pineapple pizza

lusty cedar
lusty cedar
lusty cedar
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what did unmei do 😭🙏

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I’ve always got ember to keep me updated on the mcleish lore

keen coral
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bro whatz

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down astronomically

lusty cedar
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It’s actually kinda sad because in vc he was actually just a normal guy and I played with him a lot and he was fine

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For some reason he can’t handle it over text

fierce kite
hybrid tusk
dull reef
dull reef
crisp fulcrum
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The first time we were in vc I told him upfront we will be going to a vc that doesn’t have you in it because you are annoying

lusty cedar
scenic marlin
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How this still going on

valid vine
scenic marlin
#

It's too late for mcleish to make an alt

cursive arrow
cursive arrow
# lusty cedar

lmao yea, when it all started happening, my first thought was "oh flopp needs to be a part of this"

normal charm
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i respect it

scenic marlin
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Someone should make a book

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and put all this texts in the book

primal yoke
# primal yoke
poll_question_text

does it look like water

victor_answer_votes

5

total_votes

10

dull reef
#

#1335358453237157889 message

scarlet pond
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Great map bojack sorry it turned in to whatever this is

cursive arrow
#

people still going through this giant thread lmao

scarlet pond
#

Me lmao

muted surge
#

800 comments ☠️

normal charm
#

it's just that good

orchid grail
#

Clearly people loved this level

neon anvil
valid vine
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i mean i dont see anyone in this server who dislikes it

scarlet pond
#

Did he get banned?

cursive arrow
#

mcleish? yea

scarlet pond
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Damn alright

lusty cedar
#

wow look at this great bojack map

cursive arrow
#

flopp are you really doing this

lusty cedar
dusky jasper
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No

lusty cedar
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lowkey this map is mid at best

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especially for bojack

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not saying it’s low effort don’t cancel me

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but if mcleish just reworded his original point he could have been good 😭🙏

valid vine
cursive arrow
#

Mods, send flopp to the Volcano

dusky jasper
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Ive watched this movie thrice

crisp fulcrum
#

Low key gives me beanstalk map vibes

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Whatever happened to that beanstalk challenge map

visual tinsel
#

Bog DLC when?

dusky jasper
#

Now

scenic marlin
#

Now

static wave
#

Ah this is why mcleish got banned

limber wolf
#

What even happened here?

hybrid tusk
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The bog incident

normal charm
#

The bog incident

muted surge
#

I forgot mcleish existed

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someone pls inform me privetly on why he was banned, I wamt the tea

muted surge
#

understandable ban

keen coral
#

Canon event

lusty cedar
muted surge
#

Bible of McLeish

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🙏 amen

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These are his holy scriptures

keen coral
#

Psalm 1:1
Really don’t like this it isn’t bad it’s just kind of low effort and not special.

dusky jasper
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Especially for Bojack

visual tinsel
#

I love that this is still active. It's incredible.

patent ember
#

it’s easy to get bogged down in an interesting discussion

visual tinsel
#

Honestly just make the Bog Chat into UCH discussion

novel umbra
#

Dope level

muted surge
#

Someone read back so you can see that I'm right

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All yall against me

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🫴😡

fierce kite
#

Really don’t like this it isn’t bad it’s just kind of low effort and not special.

muted surge
#

I actually can't belive I missed all this😭😭😭 Was my ONE opportunity to flame McLeish and I missed it 😦

vital bluff
#

wth is this

river flax
#

im in a rly long car ride it took me 1 hour to read all this tysm for the entertainment 🍿

keen coral
#

Lol

vital bluff
#

Hear me out, we gotta reach a thousand somehow

scenic marlin
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We need atleast 10 thousand

keen coral
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gotta make atleast 20k

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87 messages to go

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dusk elm
vital bluff
#

Imagine if everyone will write at least 100 messages in here

normal charm
#

artificial message inflation to make the beef in the bog look bigger than it is 🥀

vital bluff
#

true

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we should start another beef instead

river flax
#

Really don’t like this it isn’t bad it’s just kind of low effort and not special.

vital bluff
dusky jasper
#

This map is just low effort

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Especially for bojack

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I’m not getting banned

patent ember
#

That series of messages was just low effort

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shrimple as

crisp fulcrum
#

let that sink out

scenic marlin
lusty cedar
scenic marlin
#

lmao

cursive arrow
# lusty cedar

re-reading the bog chat for secret project reasons & these screenshots i took still make me giggle with how i cut them off

pine steeple
#

butterfly effect is crazy

thorny basalt
#

Cool map looks fun

coarse frost
#

i agree

limber wolf
#

idk i dont really like it

#

seems low effort

crisp fulcrum
#

Yeah in hindsight mcleish was right

cursive arrow
#

😭

distant pivot
#

Getting to read all of this aftermath I didn’t get to for 8 months is crazy

patent ember
#

don’t get bogged down

distant pivot
#

Yeah

fierce kite
#

Dw your secret is safe with me!
(your cooked you said that you were McDonalds twice and we can see EVERY msg using mods)

scenic marlin
#

dang bro already got banned 😭

distant pivot
#

lol

fierce kite
#

yh he's still here

not for long

distant pivot
#

I don’t think I’m going to get banned I think they’re giving me a second chance