C60H-NF6T - bidu jump by MAD MAN, Bidu, and Variety Bear

[north pulsar]

https://imgur.com/R7kDm59

[orchid rampart]

How

Curve jump? or a coyote, maybe a super jump?

I can't get any of them

Idk if it's skill issue or I gotta do something different

[humble frost]

I think its just a curve jump right

these are so hard when they arent full jump inputs

[dusky wharf]

yeah looks like curve jump

[north pulsar]

Go ahead, curve jump it

[north pulsar]

If you can

[dusky wharf]

it took a while

but um, yeah

[north pulsar]

I knew it

@fleet cosmos

We messed up

[dusky wharf]

i was usually missing it by like 1 pixel

is the trick giving you horizontal distance?

[north pulsar]

There’s new tech, you just cheesed this

I don’t have time to explain it though since I’m at work

I will during lunch though

[dusky wharf]

alright

[north pulsar]

If you remove the wall and just make it floor then the tech should be forced

[north pulsar]

Hi it’s lunch, time to explain the tech

Well at least my theory for why it functions

So it appears that you can super jump on the corner of ledges simply by dropping off of them turning back and walljumping with perfect timing. I believe this happens because you are coyote jumping and walljumping on the same frame, but since you are wallclinging it comes out as a wall jump, but with the speed of a standing jump, so it’s a “grounded super jump™️” trademarked by bidu

But it’s possible that the game doesn’t function like that at all so keep this as a theory for why it happens rather than an explanation

@dusky wharf

[dusky wharf]

i assumed it was about the corners, i was trying to get a super jump off the corner for a bit on this level but from the ground and wall

it must be really precise then

[north pulsar]

That it is

[north pulsar]

Sorry I cheese proofed super jumping from any other way

[dusky wharf]

[orchid rampart]

If you are getting extra height and vertical momentum from walljumping in a corner wouldn't that make it a wall corner boost

Maybe it works the same as a normal corner boost

[north pulsar]

Cb is like different

[fleet cosmos]

I'm gonna post the gif in stream and videos

[fleet cosmos]

The gif is stuck at encoding so i'll just post the video here

Also i'm not sure you can make it without the wall mad man

We need to think of a new way to force this

[north pulsar]

I will brainstorm

Although I already do know of one way to force it

And another idea unrelated to that one, what about placing a 1x1 3 blocks from the ground, then would that be forced, I think a curve jump only just barely gets you there right? So a 1x1 3 blocks up should only be reachable by the tech.

[orchid rampart]

@north pulsar One of your levels uses this

[north pulsar]

Which one

Oh wait yeah kinda

[orchid rampart]

I don't remember right but I remember it being possible doing it like this

[north pulsar]

Wait a minute you are right, this is in like the funny 2

[orchid rampart]

It's an old one

Yeah

It was one of the funnys

[north pulsar]

Was that actually a super jump this whole time?

[orchid rampart]

I remember I would think it was inconsistent

But apparently it was just this

[north pulsar]

I’ve definitely accidentally done this tech while playing that map, I guess I just never realized I was super jumping

Small brain

It’s either funny 2 or 3 I believe

[orchid rampart]

https://imgur.com/CrXqbeH

Number 3

[north pulsar]

Yep

Unfortunately the tech can never be forced this way because people can always run and jump with nst

Hmmm

What if the starting platform was a half wire, can you still get enough running speed to cheese this with nst?

[orchid rampart]

You mean like this? A wire blocking half the block

Idk tbh

[north pulsar]

Yep like that

I think a good coyote would still let you run and jump it

[fleet cosmos]

The jump in funny 3 is not a sj though

I just tested it

And yeah the half block wire is not enough to prevent the cheese sadly

[orchid rampart]

What how

[north pulsar]

Well yeah it isn’t

[orchid rampart]

It's a 4 blocks tho

[north pulsar]

I knew that I just meant it’s easy to do accidentally

[north pulsar]

That’s easy to squeeze into

The walljump is gonna get you 4

It’s about how high your hand gets not your feet

For example, you can walljump over 3 stacked spikeballs right, then your feet are 4 blocks up and your hand is 5 blocks up making that your reach

[orchid rampart]

Oh okay I get

So if the 1x1 block isn't there then it's imposs

Without the sj

[north pulsar]

You can still coyote cheese

[north pulsar]

I think?

When it comes to walljumping At least

[north pulsar]

Yes

[fleet cosmos]

This might be one way to force it

[orchid rampart]

What I'm I watching

[fleet cosmos]

Nvm

I just curve jump it

[orchid rampart]

Uh

[fleet cosmos]

.-.

[orchid rampart]

Oh it's the other side

[humble frost]

Neat!

[dusky wharf]

curve jump ftw

[fleet cosmos]

The unforcable tech

[humble frost]

All of the coolest tech usually ends up being unforcable 🥲🥲🥲

[north pulsar]

@fleet cosmos did you try my first suggestion yet

Same as original setup just make a 1x1 3 blocks up

Or does curve jumping go the same distance

I think I have brainstormed a new way to force it

I will make it when I get home from work

[fleet cosmos]

Didnt

I'm not trying anymore

[fleet cosmos]

.

[north pulsar]

Update, I found a way to force the tech 👍

[fallen imp]

alr so whats the way to force it

[north pulsar]

Look through my levels

There is a level in there where it is forced

[fallen imp]

yeah i think i found it "grounded super jump"