How can i make this riff sound better?

[hoary halo]

How can i make this riff sound better?

[brave sun]

just work on your playing in general ... your pinch harmonics seem to get muted somehow, looks more life you're doing a natural harmonic

and for metal you really have to dig into the strings to get that aggressive sound

[hoary halo]

Any tips? Should i just play harsher?
And for pinch harmonics, i never can make it sound good, and they doesn't even come if i don't put my amp and guitar output settings to max, so i thought it was smth with gear and tone.

[brave sun]

pinch harmonics is pure technique ... how do you do it ?

[hoary halo]

Just adjust my thumb to touch the string right after picking

[brave sun]

tip is just practice, especially on timing, guitar is more than playing a series of notes, microtiming can make it feel more alive or completely static

[brave sun]

but what do you do with your fretting hand? it doesn't seem to fret the note

[hoary halo]

Idk, i just press the note, it always comes rightly when i play something simple, idk

[brave sun]

it's a very hard technique that even some super experienced players not always hit consistently ..even Dean Lamb from Archspire says he sometimes misses them completely

[hoary halo]

Thank you, i will just practice more

[brave sun]

and maybe not put the bar too high ... cemetery gates is not really an easy song to master, it has a lot more nuances that are not beginner level

[hoary halo]

Yeah i just learned this specific riff cuz i wanted to learn something with pinch harmonics

[brave sun]

when I started out I also wanted to play those kinds of songs and it actually held me back because it frustrated me

[hoary halo]

Was trying revolution is my name but had the same problem

[hoary halo]

Yeah

[brave sun]

then I started over ... simply starting with cowboy chord songs to learn the basics ... then going back to rock/punk/metal stuff

mostly greenday shit because it was reasonably easy but also semi fast and good for endurance and building downpicking chops

[hoary halo]

I learned some metallica and black sabbath riffs, and some of that overplayed solos from famous bands and just thought i was ready to play pantera

[brave sun]

and if you really want to learn pinch harmonics ... just learn to nail them every single time ... put them everywhere like Adam D from Killswitch does

[onyx onyx]

amel stop sliding

[onyx onyx]

yeah just do them hundreds of times

[wild cargo]

turn your middle down and more gain

and then so

a pinch harmonic works

by isolating overtones

like every other harmonic

so essentialyl

what you want to do

if your guitar has 24 frets

either do that

or lightly do a natural harmonic until you find the one that goes up 2 octaves

and then what you want to do

is hold your pick

so your thumb is covering almost all the pick

except a little snippet

so you can alternate pick and such

while the other side

is mostly uncovered so you can really dig in when you need to

and then

you just slightly rotate it

while you hit that 2 octave harmonic position

with an open string

thats important

then it will ring out 2 octaves higher

now you can cut this in half and it will be either 3 or 4 octaves i forgot honestly

now

the trick is

every position on the fretboard

you want to place the pinch harmonic

so its a clean ratio

1/2 1/4 1/8 etc

where

so it will make the harmonic

pinch harmonics are extremely easy its just a matter of positioning and muscle memory

[hoary halo]

I always put my gain at max, probably i need to buy new gear

[wild cargo]

does your guitar have bass mid treble

crank everything except mid keep it below like 4

[hoary halo]

I took a print of all the messages, thank you for the advices

[wild cargo]

youre welcome

id reccomend getting something like a line 6 spider or a boss katana if you just want a amp

or

if you want pedals

which is honestly mroe versatile

[hoary halo]

I don't understand much about gear, but my guitar only have 2 knobs and a lever of 5 positions

[wild cargo]

get something like a metal zone or a behringer sans amp clone

can you show me

[hoary halo]

All my gear are extremely cheap bc where i live everything is expensive af, so I'm gonna send a pic of my amp just for you to see

Yeah the angle is not very good

Wait

[wild cargo]

flip that super drive

set middle to 0

turn bass to like 6 or 7

treble all the way up

gain all the way up

volume to taste

[hoary halo]

Looked for metal zone a few days ago, that's like about the price of a minimum wage here

And i don't have much money to spend

One of these common orange drive pedals is about ⅓ of a minimum wage

[hoary halo]

For the amps, it is 2 wages each, but i paid ⅓ for this one i have

[wild cargo]

Do you have a computer

If you can get a usb interface

[onyx onyx]

pedals arent more versatile until youre thousands into them

[wild cargo]

Meh

Can use them with any amp

[onyx onyx]

youll get instant banned here for saying that

[wild cargo]

And the physical controls are useful

[onyx onyx]

katana has controls for pedals and multiple amp models

its not meh

its correct

[wild cargo]

Painfully difficult to set up a tone on the fly though lol

You just stomp pedals

[candid lantern]

uh no

[wild cargo]

You gotta set up controllers and crap to do that with a real pedal

I mean the boss

[candid lantern]

worst argument ever

its the same thing

you plug in a pedal

you stomp it

[wild cargo]

and using real pedals

You learn how to use them properly

[candid lantern]

controllers take 5 min to set them all up

[wild cargo]

Can’t stomp on an amp

[candid lantern]

you also learn how to use digital pedals properly

controllers fully make ur point irrelevant

youll spend thousands before you can breach the boss katana versatility

fact

[wild cargo]

Costs about as much as the amp to get it fully set up

[wild cargo]

Not really

[candid lantern]

???

[candid lantern]

yes

really

fact

[onyx onyx]

hes right

[candid lantern]

get one pedal of each of the katanas digital pedals it offers

you cant for less than 2 katanas

[wild cargo]

maybe 100 dollars

[candid lantern]

wrong

[wild cargo]

The effects suck

[candid lantern]

also wrong

do you know what sneaky amps are

and the tube screamer is great

the eqs all work like eqs

reverbs are good

delay is delay

[wild cargo]

bro u glazing the boss katana so hard 😭

[candid lantern]

this is a known thing

im really not

its just the truth

anyone sensible here will say the same thing

[onyx onyx]

its true

[hoary halo]

Actually only a notebook, but i'm going to buy a pc eventually, for the interface, could the cuvave cube baby work? Saw lots of people talking about this one but it's very cheap, idk if it's good

[onyx onyx]

even a lot of the mods say that and that its way better for budget because to get the equivalent pedals youll spend a lot more

[candid lantern]

we can test my theory if youd like?

[wild cargo]

I can get a better tone from a 50 dollar beat up peavy tube amp and 20-30 dollar pedals

[candid lantern]

wrong

name a band

ill beat your tone with pure katana

[wild cargo]

okay

In utero

[candid lantern]

in utero isnt a good tone

not counted

[onyx onyx]

in utero is shit

any nirvana sounds like ass tone wise

[hoary halo]

Why y'all discussing here rn

[onyx onyx]

you can get nirvana tone from a microwave

[candid lantern]

lol

[hoary halo]

Anyway, what do y'all recommend me to do? I think the cheapest way is to use a cube baby and a pc, but idk much about gear in general

[wild cargo]

Download neural amp modeler and get a cheap interface

Download a patch for whatever band you want it will be an IR of the tone

Then install a daw

Audacity works

[candid lantern]

u still need a nam file for it

u cant just stick an ir on

thats a cab captur

e

its not an "ir of the tone"