I’m a beginner what electric guitar set should I buy?

[turbid quartz]

So I’m tight on budget and there’s no guitar store where I could try a cheap guitar. I mainly listen to rock songs but it would be cool if I could play different genres besides rock. I don’t really know how amps works (yet) but I know I need one and a cable and strings for the guitar (I think my picks is okay).

What guitar should I buy as a beginner that’s cheap, comfortable to play, and won’t fall apart the moment I touch it? I heard that you can’t go wrong with the Yamaha Pacifica 012 is that true?

What amp should I get? People say the Fender Mustang LT25 is a good choice. Is there a cheaper and smaller option? Also, what amps can I use with my DT770 80-ohm headphones?

A 4 dollar cable is okay or will I start picking up the radio? A 2m cable is more than enough for me that is working correctly.

What strings should I buy and how much? And how do I put them on without messing it up?

Thank you in advance! :DD

[calm lagoon]

I’d say go w the Pacifica and the lt25

U can use ur headphones with the lt25

That will cover all ur playing basses except modern metal

[wicked hound]

This one is 87$ but it needs upgrades to it if u find someone to help
U I recommend u to get strings and new tremolo system and fret board cleaning

[calm lagoon]

Do not get that

[wicked hound]

Well

If ur into metal I recommend

Also I
Don’t recommend getting any silvertone gutairs

They usually

Are butt cheeks

[white flax]

Yeah...Pacificas are awesome ... But if you can get a Cort 250SE you're good too

Instead of an lt25 I would get something like the Nux mightyplug... It's designed for headphones but works with an external speaker as well and doubles as an interface

You don't even need an instrument cable since it plugs directly into your guitar

[white flax]

I have something similar ... probably from the same factory, with another name on it ... I got it for 25 dollar

It's not that bad actually

[turbid quartz]

And what type of strings should I get? And how many?

[calm lagoon]

Strings are up to u that is almost entirely personal preference

[turbid quartz]

Oh okay any good recommendations?

I mean really cheap non branded strings not the best right?

[calm lagoon]

I personally use PRS classic strings but u can’t go wrong with any of these brands u just gota make sure they are electric strings and in the right gauge
Earnie ball
PRS
Fender
Daddario
Elixir
Rotosound
Gibson
Or afew others

U would probably be best off with one of these gauges
10-46
9-42
9-46 (hybrid pack of the above 2)
9.5-44

U would probably be fine with 1-2packs or even buy 1 pack of different gages and find what u like

[turbid quartz]

Ah alright I was confused what gauge means in this case. I mean if the string is too thick it doesn’t stay in place am I right?

[calm lagoon]

Gauge refers to the thickness of the string

A thinner gauge will be easier to press and bend on but u can abuse a thicker gauge abit more they also sound abit beefier

If u were to downtune a lot u would want a thicker gauge of string so it vibrates correctly to get the desired tuning

Given u said u like rock u probably won’t go below d standard or drop c which any of the above packs would work fine for but any of the ones ending in 46 would work better for

The hybrid packs are nice bc u get the low end beefiness of the thicker pack on the 3 low strings but the easier bends of the thinner pack on the high 3 strings

[turbid quartz]

I have one more question which may sound (stupid) very very beginner

But why we use an amp besides the volume and bonus effects? Or why the electric guitar has a volume and tone button if we can change it on the amp? Or how is this work?

[calm lagoon]

So the amps volume adjust the loudness of the actual amp

[turbid quartz]

I’ve only played electric guitar without the power lmao

[calm lagoon]

On a guitar that volume adjusts the amount of signal allowed to flow out of the guitar to the amp

The amps tone knobs adjust the eq allowing u to get different sounds out of the amp

The guitars tone knobs cut or limit certain signals from the pickups being allowed out of the guitar to the amp

[turbid quartz]

Oh I see now wow

[calm lagoon]

So like let’s say u needed it to be quiet while plugged in u could turn the volume off on ur guitar instead of having to walk over to the amp and turn it down there

But also on certain amps Liek tube amps if ur guitar voume is up it pushes the amp harder allowing for natural breakup / distortion where if u turned down ur guitars volume slightly it becomes cleaner while still being a similar volume bc volume is set mostly by the amp

[turbid quartz]

I understand now it’s interesting

Thanks for your replies guys. I’ve learned a lot @calm lagoon thank you 🙏

[white flax]

Get 2 sets at first...one with a 9 guage high string and one with 10 guage high ... something like NYXL from d'addario is kinda middle ground

I love elixirs but they are quite expensive

I hate Ernie balls but lots of people love m

It's super subjective

[turbid quartz]

I see

[turbid quartz]

Alright thanks man:)

[white flax]

What's your budget for guitar and or amp ?

[wicked hound]

I was trying to look for a 7 string version

[burnt turret]

What guitar is that?, So beautiful 🤩

[white flax]

Look up Glarry Burning Fire ... basically the same

[umbral fog]

the shape doesnt make it sound any better for metal

[wicked hound]

It’s the pickups

And sound it gives off

[wicked hound]

I have a glarry and a ESP F Series

Both same shape ones higher end than the other

Im modifying the glarry to be just as good

[white flax]

With a decent setup and decent strings it definitely is not a bad guitar

[wicked hound]

I ain’t changing the knobs I love the chrome knobs

Keeping the pickups they sound great but I am putting chrome pick up covers on them

Getting a floyd rose

And better strings

And cleaning the fretboard

[turbid quartz]

Max is 350$ in total

[white flax]

Amp and guitar ?

[turbid quartz]

Yes

[white flax]

Cort x100 and a Nux mightyplug pro

[turbid quartz]

Which one? The OPBK, OPBB, OPBC cort x100 or it doesn’t matter

[umbral fog]

unless u see actual distinct differences on each one besides color, its just color

[turbid quartz]

Oh alright and it’s a good guitar?

It won’t break right?

[umbral fog]

decent yeah

[umbral fog]

no guitars just “break” lmao

ur not buyin a fuckin car or some shit

if ur hardware is dogshit quality it could become unreliable yeah, but ur also shopping for cheap guitars so ur not guaranteed against that either

[turbid quartz]

Do you mean the electronic of the guitar? So what is the worst case that would happen?

What would you recommend or should I go with this one?

Yeah I ask too many questions lol

[umbral fog]

just go with that one if u like how it looks

[umbral fog]

this question sucks in this context so theres no answer

for future reference, stop asking urself if a guitars gonna break if u dont know how and in what ways it even COULD break

guitars are extremely simple objects

[turbid quartz]

Alright, I just asked because everyone I know who had a guitar ended up breaking one.

Ty for the answers

[keen pecan]

I might be late but check out harely benton

[turbid quartz]

@gaunt crown @river viper I made a post in here you can check it out

[turbid quartz]

Oh and which model exactly? Or they are a good brand?

I haven’t bought anything yet so you aren’t late

[burnt turret]

Yo @turbid quartz Imma Beginner too, I did a lot of research and I mean alot of research for like a whole month continuously, the Guitar I’ve heard a lot of Good things is Yamaha Pacifica 012 or higher, and the Cort G250 SE(recommend by @white flax ) little expensive , and also get a Good AMP, bcz I heard a lot of my friends say that even if you have a 1000$+ guitar amd buy a not good AMP, it does not sound good, so go for the Boss Katana Mini or a used Boss Katana 50 MKII, trust me even Im goin with it too, totally worth it 😁

[calm lagoon]

Go for a mini as the bare minimum u would be better off with a headphone amp or the fender lt 25

[calm lagoon]

Any of their guitars work their fixed bridge style guitars tend to be abit better then their trem guitars but either would work

I personally have a HB SC-450 so if u want any more info on that I can’t give u some it’s their Les Paul shape

[white flax]

Faxctz

[knotty acorn]

Yamaha pac 112V or Cort g250se with fender lt25, or get an amp sim on ur pc

If u dont have pc, use some sort of plug

Like the nux mightyplug

If u want a small amp

Try maybe a boss katana mini

Best budget string brand in my opinion is Daddario

You cant go wrong with D addario EXL120

[white flax]

This message should be pinned for all newcomers

[minor nymph]

Exactly what I was thinking

[turbid quartz]

Same I heard that the Yamaha Pacifica 012 is underrated I might choose that guitar because it’s versatile and have a clean sound (at least that’s what they said). I still haven’t decided what amp should I get if I even need one, maybe my pc will be enough for now idk. Ty man for the info love your pfp

[turbid quartz]

Fr

A lot of good information. Thank you guys:D

[burnt turret]

Thx so much dude, have fun playing 🫂

[keen pecan]

U should prob be able to pick the one u want tbf, Cuz they make realy good budjet guitars. But like check the specific models reviews and maybe a yt vid aswell.

But depending on how big ur budjet is u could go for an ibanez gio

I have one and they r good

[gaunt crown]

This is a good suggestion imo

[gaunt crown]

I wouldn't recommend Harley Benton tbh. Sometimes you get one, it plays alright and works, but it seems working electronics is optional not a requirement too, might be more of a pain than it's worth

[turbid quartz]

Ty for the info

[calm lagoon]

Harley Benton is pretty good if u get their hard tail guitars if u get their trem stuff that’s where I hear the complaints from

[gaunt crown]

I’ve seen enough where the electronics don’t work where I would be hesitant to recommend them unless you’re good at electronics

[calm lagoon]

How long ago was that tho

[gaunt crown]

I mean last few were earlier this year

[calm lagoon]

Really?

I have experience w the sc-450 and TE-62 both worked fine and played well right out the box

Most the complaints I see are with the cheap active one s and ones w trem

[gaunt crown]

Yeah. But getting a fixed bridge is best for a beginner or semi beginner regardless

[umbral fog]

aint that like

most budget guitars

[gaunt crown]

I've never heard of that on many cheaper guitars

[umbral fog]

electronics not working is the least of my worries as its also a super easy fix. with harley the bigger issues is just general build quality QC

[gaunt crown]

Never heard of a Squier having broken electronics new

yeah for you or me, sure

[umbral fog]

ive seen ibanez premiums with dead on arrival electronics

[gaunt crown]

recently or in the 90s?

[umbral fog]

recent, fishmans

[calm lagoon]

There r afew ppl in here who had dead on arrival solar guitars

[gaunt crown]

wow. shame Ibanez

Ibanez's wiring was definitely rough back in the 90s, never saw it not work, but wouldn't be surprised looking what a bang up job they often did

fortunately those stock pickups were awful so everyone just gutted and rewired them anyyay

but that's not the goal here

[umbral fog]

i assume its less likely to do with the guitar companies themselves, altho yes its their responsibility, and more with whoever supplied the parts

idk if companies as big as ibanez really test every single guitar they get in, thats a lot of product

[gaunt crown]

the companies are in charge of wiring up the parts

[gaunt crown]

yeah where do I apply to be a "guitar tester?"

[turbid quartz]

Imagine getting paid for playing guitar

It’s haven

So I should not go with this one: https://www.thomann.de/hu/harley_benton_st_20hss_sbk_standard_series.htm?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21645616301&gbraid=0AAAAADuDMCXYMEJTOLOa__dkOrX88WxiT&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjo7DBhCrARIsACWauSmoc0aUoATzft8PNJIFlD-IDwYuXj2Cd3Wwnqoxbt0UwijfTU4dKswaAnNDEALw_wcB

[calm lagoon]

It would work but there is definitely better for the price

[turbid quartz]

For example?

I couldn’t find better in this price

[calm lagoon]

Are u North America or somewhere by Europe

I need to factor that into pricing

[turbid quartz]

Europe

[calm lagoon]

The hb sc400 is better but is Liek 30$ more

So that is same price range

[desert plover]

My dad got me a Shechter diamond series elite c6…sounds absolutely amazing after using it for 4 years, I recommend that model to anyone, most of them are under 500 (unless you get a guy thinking it’s worth 1000+) but those are good choices in the hardware, sound and feel

[hidden ridge]

You can find a used Epiphone Les Paul for stupid cheap. That’s what I did and I put something like 1,000 hours on that little thing, held up fine. I don’t know much about amps though, which you might want to look into.

[cobalt spire]

Second hand market is the goat

I bought a used 2004 Epiphone LP sunburst for 600£, with gibson burstbucker pro gold pickups. Great guitar.

[cobalt spire]

So im guessing you're looking for a stratocaster?

I would too stay away from harley benton. Take a look at squiers or yamaha, they have some stratocaster models.

Tho harley benton are still guitars. If you dont want to spend alot, they're a very cheap option, but you usually get what you pay for.

[pseudo lynx]

I'm not sure I'd recommend a les paul to someone who doesn't know for sure they like them

something lighter and more ergonomic

[white flax]

You could have stopped after 'someone'

[pseudo lynx]

true

but some masochists out there like having no carves and no weigh relief and no comfort and no fun

and woke says i have to acknowledge them as real people

[severe tide]

The harlebenton st 62 seems to be a good pick too

Bit vintage but it works

Can't dial in much metal tho

Due to the apparent lack of a humbucker

[calm lagoon]

That’s what the Harley Benton ST modern is it’s essentially the same guitar but a humbucker in the bridge also with more modern colors

[pseudo lynx]

squire affinity HSS Strat

thats the best hss strat under 350

or, ive played a squire debut series a bit

its not bad

only like what, 130 on amazon only

isnt a complete piece of shit

put the rest towards a nice amp or whatever you like

[white flax]

No it's not compared to the good options already provided ... Just make up your mind son

[pseudo lynx]

the only issue with the debuts is the fret edges can be pretty rough

take it to gc have them fix it for like 50 bucks

fuckin solid guitar for the price point

likely better than any harely

[umbral fog]

dunno any cort equivalent would likely cost less at the same quality

[pseudo lynx]

ok fair enough

the difference is i can go to my local guitar center and pick up a squire

you gotta go to some back alley black market website via Tor to get a cort guitar

[white flax]

Sadly enough in the states this is quite accurate..in Europe you just buy from thomann

[knotty acorn]

cort g250SE

very good guitar

[white flax]

That's what I've been saying ....

[severe tide]

Ain't the Pacifica 112j an option

[severe tide]

The only problem I see is that for some people (me) it costs the same as a Yamaha Pacifica and when it comes to Pacificas, they're really mainstream. Which allows easy modding capabilities and more

The specs on the g250se are insane tho

Tho in all honesty, if you're willing to spend around 100usd more, you can get the Decked out fusion 3

[white flax]

It's a basic guitar ... You can still mod it ...but you won't have to since it already comes with features you would mod on a basic guitar, like locking tuners

[severe tide]

True

[severe tide]

The only thing I would mod on the fusions would be the pickups, but even then, roswells are still really good pickups

[dull shale]

Majority of your tone except for rare instances comes from the speakers

Especially if you playing anything distorted. Your not gonna hear much differences between different pickups assuming they are all the same type

Obviously single coil and humbuckers are gonna be different from each other

[white flax]

And the bridge probably... Cause it's a floating trem and definitely not the better one

[severe tide]

The Wilkinson trem system seems to work pretty well honestly

Not Floyd Rose level stable but it can handle the occasional divebomb

[white flax]

As a first guitar ...all the options will do... Now ... actually get one and start playing

[severe tide]

This

If you can't get one specific model, just get another, just make sure it's something you'd see yourself playing daily

Until you upgrade ofc

[turbid quartz]

This is my final set. What do you think about this guys? This is good for a beginner? Is there any cheaper option?

530 usd total

[calm lagoon]

Perfect starting point

U could probably save some money on the strings rn and not get them but u will end up buying them later

[umbral fog]

whats the two seperate string gauge sets for

[turbid quartz]

Someone said both are good for the guitar and it’s up to me which one I prefer so I thought I will try them out

[umbral fog]

for future reference

there are no "good or bad" strings for certain guitars

string brand and gauge is largely just up to what the person prefers playing

10-46 and 9-42 gauges just happen to be the most common gauges for everyone

[turbid quartz]

Yeah but the shipping will be expensive if I only buy strings

[umbral fog]

not just "good for that guitar"

if you plan to change strings soon, then you should buy a basic string winder and cutter if you already dont have those

[calm lagoon]

U can buy strings from anywhere it doesnt have to be Thoman

U might b able to get cheaper shipping from somewhere else

[turbid quartz]

These string brands are really expensive in my country

[turbid quartz]

Yeah I will look around

[calm lagoon]

U don’t need to get dadario strings

If u can find Earnie ball strings they are usually pretty cheap and are good strings

[turbid quartz]

Earnie ball, elixir are expensive too

[calm lagoon]

Ok there are other companies out there

Fender and prs both make strings

iirc gibson does as well

[umbral fog]

its not gonna get cheaper than ernie tho thats for sure lol

[turbid quartz]

Thanks for sharing I forgot these

[calm lagoon]

Yea

7$ strings is hard to beat

[turbid quartz]

Is this good? What can you do with that thing on the end? @umbral fog

[calm lagoon]

Yes and that end piece is for removing the pegs on an acoustic guitar

It does that

[turbid quartz]

Thank you very much guys. I think this is my final decision then

Oh I forgot B-stocks are reliable on thomann?

[calm lagoon]

B stock items perform perfectly fine but have minor cosmetic damage

That’s what make them b stock

Then c stock is bigger cosmetic things

[coarse imp]

Get a 3 pack any brand for now.

[severe tide]

Id personally look into the cort g250se at that price

It's got coil splits and all

Mayybe a better cable, the pro snake comes to mind

[turbid quartz]

Why do I need a better cable? What problems can occur if it’s cheap?

[severe tide]

Signal loss and interference, you don't need something too fancy, just something that's decent

[calm lagoon]

A 7$ cable works perfectly fine

That is a strait strait cable tho a strait angled cable is better

[pseudo lynx]

not necessarily better

more convenient

[turbid quartz]

Is this a good one?

[calm lagoon]

It will work perfectly fine

If u can an angled cable is abit more convenient but not necessary

An angled cable is like this where 1 side is strait and the other at a 90°

Once again not required and what u have will work perfectly fine

[white flax]

Just buy a cable from cordial...sssnake cables are not that good

[severe tide]

The pro snake has good value for money but yeah

A better cable will go a long way

Preferably 15-20 ft although 20 does have a Teeeny bit of signal loss

[small glen]

This one is ass

[pseudo lynx]

oh the glarry guitar, guitar of 1000 names

ive never played one but they radiate an aura of cheapness

[verbal tide]

If you get a daddario/planet waves cable if it breaks u can just send it back and get another

They're really good and well shielded

Lifetime warranty

[white flax]

I have and they radiate what they are ... But ... I got mine for 21 euro ... And it really doesn't play/sound all that bad after a setup

[verbal tide]

im tempted to get a really cheap guitar for slide

to keep in open E and keep the action really high

[turbid quartz]

How good is it for my electric guitar to store it on a stand?

The air conditioner most of the time on in the room so the temperature fluctuation is high and it’s also exposed to dust

[calm lagoon]

If u can store it on a stand

If not in a case is fine

[turbid quartz]

So the temperature won’t harm my guitar?

Or the strings

[calm lagoon]

How wild of a change is it

My room is usually anywhere from 60-80 and mine are fine

[turbid quartz]

5 Celsius max

Between 23-28 yeah

[calm lagoon]

Yea u will be fine

[turbid quartz]

Okay thanks

[turbid quartz]

This maybe a dumb question but I want to make things sure. If I connect my amp (fender mustang lt25) to the connector (230V runs in it) and then I connect the guitar and then the headphone (80 ohm) directly into the amp, it will work well right? Do I need an audio interface for my headphones in order to run smoothly?

[hardy rock]

Yes that's what the headphone output is for, no worries. An interface is something to use with a computer and it doesn't matter here.

[turbid quartz]

Okay thanks:)

[turbid quartz]

So I’ve got a bit more money. Is there any electric guitar under 440$ which are better than the Yamaha pacifica 112j?

[calm lagoon]

What amp do u have

Oh wait u have a mustang

Nvm

[turbid quartz]

Fender mustang lt25

[calm lagoon]

Pacifica 212 maybe

[hardy rock]

The 112V is an upgraded 112J so I guess that one?

The 311H should be in that price

Or a squier classic vibe for the fender look

[turbid quartz]

Oh man idk which one to choose 112v or the 311h

311H is it worth the extra money?

[hardy rock]

The 311H is a bit different, it has a P90 pickup instead of the single coils and it has no tremolo bar (which you probably won't miss anyway). I have one and it's great. Locking tuners are really nice too.

I bought mine used a while ago though, it was much cheaper then

[turbid quartz]

What’s the difference between the P90 pickups and the single coils?

[hardy rock]

It's also a type of single coil but it sounds a bit "stronger", idk how to explain it.

[turbid quartz]

Some people said the frets are not so smooth and if you bend the B string it does a weird sound is that true? Or what is your experience?

[hardy rock]

I didn't notice that but I think it can happen on any guitar

[turbid quartz]

Yeah I got it what you mean

Okay I think I will go with the 311H version

Ty for the infos

[turbid quartz]

This is what I bought:

[severe tide]

Harley benton fusion 3

Easy recommendation

[turbid quartz]

I already chose the yamaha pacifica 311h but thanks for your recommendation :))

[severe tide]

No worries, it's still a great upgrade if you're still looking

I think one of their models has a Floyd Rose 1000

[knotty acorn]

not good as a beginner tho

a floyd wouldnt be good for a begniner

[severe tide]

....
Which is why I said "upgrade"

[knotty acorn]

oh yes my bad

[pseudo lynx]

nice chatgpt response

[hardy rock]

lol

[umbral fog]

did you replace the em dashes with semi colons because chatgpt uses it a lot

[turbid quartz]

Lmao what’s going on here

[pseudo lynx]

what tipped me of is who the fuck recommends a tremolo bridge for rock, you dont need that at all. and a telecaster a workhorse? for what genre? hopefully nothing high gain. also dive bombs on a non locking trem lol

not to mention the weird ass phrasing

[umbral fog]

“telecaster or esquire is basically the same guitar” no, i’d say missing a pickup entirely does not make it the same

“you only need single coils for a workhorse” no, this implies humbuckers are somehow only used for a niche specialized sound

“rock is humbuckers and a tremolo” no, most of rock was written without a tremolo

yeah

[pseudo lynx]

the two most famous guitar shapes in rock are hardtail gibsons lol

not only is this ai, its a stupid ai

[pseudo lynx]

yeah the neck pickup is important, ESCPECIALLY on a tele, it makes it a whole different beast

[gloomy topaz]

How does it sound for metal because for 90$ that’s cheap as heck and I might get it later for metal

[umbral fog]

whether something sounds good for metal has to do with the amp more than the guitar

that applies to all tones

most tone is the amp

[gloomy topaz]

Ah

Currently I just use either my uncles or my dads old boss od-2 pedal and it works well

I wanna get a better amp for my guitar

[pseudo lynx]

whatchu working with now?

[gloomy topaz]

Fender squire with a frontman 15g and sometimes using the boss od-2 pedal

[pseudo lynx]

oof yeah get rid of that amp stat

[gloomy topaz]

I think realistically I’ll learn the guitar with it and when I need something better I’ll buy it

[pseudo lynx]

yeah thats reasonable

but that amp is 100 percent the reason your tone sucks, when you upgrade thats the first thing that needs to go

it does what it needs to for a beginner

[gloomy topaz]

I’m thinking of going with something like a amp modeler but diffrent conversation

[pseudo lynx]

hell yeah, floor unit?

[gloomy topaz]

I don’t know anything about them

Just looked it up I’d like that but they are quite expensive from what I saw

And then I’d still need speakers

[turbid quartz]

Hey again! So as I said I’m a beginner. Where should I start learning to play electric guitar and how do I progress? Guitar teachers are really expensive so looks like I have to choose the “self taught” path, but I don’t know where to start and how should I practice in order to progress.

[calm lagoon]

Pick a song and start by learning it YouTube has some good tutorials for songs to start with u can also look at. Justin guitar

At the beginning practice can be learning and playing a song but as u progress u add improv and other things to ur practice

Start simple and find the path of what interests you

[turbid quartz]

So Ive got my new guitar and strings were tuned down a few tones and my thinner/higher strings are really tight. It won’t snap right? Or is it normal to be that tight?

[white flax]

they should be tight but still easy to push down ... just make sure they are in tune

[turbid quartz]

Ty man Ill try to not snap them

[white flax]

you won't that easily

unless they are total ass strings

[turbid quartz]

I will keep asking strange questions but why is my amp has no sound?

I connected my headphone into the amp and I connected my guitar too

I turned up the volume but nothing happened

[turbid quartz]

@river viper if I remember correctly you have a fender mustang

How did you use it with headphones?

[hardy rock]

Normally you also need to turn up the gain at least a small amount

Hard to tell what's going on without a picture

Looks like you have a 'volume' knob and also a 'master' knob. You can leave 'volume' on max for now and control the actual volume with the master knob

[turbid quartz]

It works now thanks

But why there’s a volume and a master knob?

Why not just a volume?

[hardy rock]

I think master is the volume for everything and volume is only for the preamp. There's some difference but nothing to worry about

[turbid quartz]

Oh I see

[merry obsidian]

Thoughts on Pacifica 112j as a first guitar vs. Pacifica 012?

I have an acoustic but never touched an electric before

Also am struggling to find one in Black. I live in Ontario Canada if it matters

Also does it matter if I get a 112j or a 112v?

[calm lagoon]

Both are the same it is just neck wood that is different and paint

But if u can a 112 is better than a 012

[merry obsidian]

Understood. And thank you

[merry obsidian]

Do you know if BL just means black here?

https://www.thomannmusic.com/yamaha_pacifica_112j_bl.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Is that still the correct guitar?

[calm lagoon]

All the picificas are the same if the number is the same the letters are just the cosmetic variants of it

Also the fretboard wood might change slightly but it doesn’t effect anything

[merry obsidian]

Bought it. Thank you

[severe tide]

Wrong, you're getting basically a completely different guitar

[severe tide]

112v has slightly better overall versatility with the splittable himbucker

Oh and the alinco V pickups

[merry obsidian]

Bought the 112j

[turbid quartz]

Oh you bought a pacifica too and you are also a beginner. Welcome to the club mate:))

What are you learning right now? Or what will you learn at the start?

[calm lagoon]

To someone just starting they are identical

[severe tide]

Not bad, enjoy your guitar! Ceramic pickups are a very good option too

[merry obsidian]

Acoustic

I’m taking in-person lessons

That’s what he’s having me do

From Hal Leonard’s booklet

But thank you to the both of you

[hardy rock]

My understanding is that the 112v has generally everything upgraded, pickups and other hardware too