#Omega granophyre tone not feeling right

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wraith owl
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It is awesome to see that each Neural DSP plugin comes with artist tones and in the OMEGA Ampworks Granophyre, we get Mick Thomson and Alessandro 'VMAN' Venturella signature presets.

When I saw these presets and started using them I decided to have them verse each other since both artists are in the same band, Slipknot.

So this is Mick Thomson...

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how can i make it sound more like this?

frail heart
# wraith owl

are you using a very light string guage in a low tuning ?

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or super old strings ?

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also know that most youtube demo songs have quite a lot of post production on them

wraith owl
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i tuned it down to drop a

frail heart
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then you need to play more tight ... it sounds flubby

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It will also never sound thiccc if you don't doubletrack

wraith owl
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and whenever i play theres always some string overpowering another one in sound

wraith owl
# wraith owl

for example i did a power chord here and my e string was just louder

frail heart
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i cannot run the trial anymore so I cannot try how it sounds on my end

wraith owl
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i used a factory preset

frail heart
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dial is means : 'set up the tone'

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alas I cannot run the trial anymore

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i do have the next best thing, the Sigma, which is modelled after the Granophyre too

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default settings, no processing

wraith owl
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same settings

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wraith owl
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its not about the settings but the quality of the sound

frail heart
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And double track everything

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Then post process the guitar tracks

wraith owl
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what is clipping interface input?

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sorry im still a beginner

frail heart
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there's usually a light on your interface turning red

wraith owl
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ah okay

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what do i do with the knob then?

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if i set it too low then theres no distortion

frail heart
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on your INTERFACE... not your plugin

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so first dial it up so you actually start clipping ... then turn it down

outer storm
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There seems to be no clipping issue - however it coud probabloy setuped better anyway.

Main issue I hear in first audio is the playing technique and the setup of the guitar. You use to low string gauges and/or strange mismatch with probably considerably low action.

  1. Setup Guitar correctly
  2. Learn the riff you want to do correctly
  3. Double track the guitar left/right (only possible if u play perfectly) ElSchaap did an good example but it was still kinda messy here and there.
  4. Ur guitar pickups / cable / setup , will be different and have big impact in sound, so the preset will not sound the same for you anyway - you need to change a bit to fit it to your equipment. Just getting an amp sim will not fix tonal issues.

Point 1+2 is the most important here though. +3 if you compare it to the video.

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outer storm
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He literally said in the video its post proccessed and you shoud skip ahead for raw sounds

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he has them in middle to end of the video

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so no theres raw sounds in the video - aside from compression due to streaming - but thats like minor at best