What modeler

[pine nest]

Between the headrush flex prime and the Hx stomp

[dense moth]

Neither

I feel the headrush stuff just lacks something, also doesn't have a decent PC editor

HX stomp is okay but quite limited in DSP

Helix does however come with great FX and quite a lot of good high gain amp models

[pine nest]

Which is fine cause don’t plan to run any crazy shit

[dense moth]

fair enough ... i do like that they have models of actual amps instead of generic ones

i think I will check out the Hotone stuff when I get the chance ... I like how their stuff looks and the UI

[prisma badge]

Heard many good things about the Headrush. Also, you get a Volume/Wah pedal with it, if that's something you might use.
I'm pretty sure Orphans Uprising has one, so you can ask him for more details and his experience with this unit.

HX Stomp is a great unit and sounds fantastic, but without Volume/Wah Pedal. OTOH, it's very compact, so that's a huge plus for gigs.
Don't know if this is still an issue, but I remember when it came out, the clean tones weren't that great. All can be tweaked, of course....

You can't really go wrong with either, tbh.

[dense moth]

i heard the prime's desktop editing is via a web-interface instead of an app ... it does have cloning though I think

[dense moth]

@pine nest there's also the Amero Stomp 3 ... which is comparable with the HX Stomp, just cheaper and imho way nicer in the UI department and I think they added capturing to it recently via FW update

[prisma badge]

Yep, that is correct.
the cloning is apprently quite good as well.

[dense moth]

I was actually watching a comparison video from Andertons yesterday and the flex prime didn't really do it ... But then again, it was shot out against the QC and the Kemper

[full patrol]

HX stomp outta those two.

[prisma badge]

Not really a fair competition there, heheh.
What were their reasons?
Have to admit, that Kemper Profiler is pretty sexy looking.

[dense moth]

purely based on the sound of the capture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWu4fE2cb74&ab_channel=AndertonsMusicCo

[prisma badge]

@dense moth 🙏

[dense moth]

but yeah...the whole capture this is neat ... if you have something to capture

[prisma badge]

True. But I think there's a way to import captures from other people (maybe??).

[pine nest]

Yes

[dense moth]

but most non-capturing modelers have tone-clouds too

just not with captures ... more presets

in the pricerange of the HX Stomp you could go for the Nano Cortex too

also has the cloud option

[pine nest]

No nano sucks imo

[dense moth]

Ampero Stomp II has capture features too now, since the last FW upgrade

that's also my gripe with the HX Stomp @pine nest ... last update is almost a year ago ...and there will probably be fewer coming in the future

[pine nest]

I guess

[pine nest]

Honestly might get the helix

[agile cedar]

Do you already have an existing pedalboard + amp?

HX Stomp is one of the best small footprint additions to most rigs like that, arguably

You also get Helix Native discount with a new HX Stomp, if you're into reamping and recording with a VST. Super super convenient

[agile cedar]

Oh, bet lol

[pine nest]

I have pedals but no pedal board I don’t use them

I have a katana but it’s meh

[agile cedar]

Really up to you then. Modelers are so similar nowadays in what they can achieve tone wise, so footprint/size and other variables probably become next most important

Helix Native is a banger product, if you care for recording at all

[pine nest]

Yeah

I thought you got it with helix products?

[agile cedar]

Should be a big discount now iirc