brazen wolf
Basically I want an amp that is less than 300 dollars that sounds good. I would prefer it without bells and whistles because I will be supplying my own pedals/ scarlet computer interface. I would really like an amp that works well with digital amp models and allows me to be creative with audio equipment like pedals.
Bedroom guitarist in my own home.
valid hornet
Basically I want an amp that is less than 300 dollars that sounds good. I would ...
If you gonna use digital amp models get a frfr
brazen wolf
hmm what is that
valid hornet
Basically a powered speaker
valid hornet
But you won’t need an amp would you?
valid hornet
Well why not
If you’re gonna be using amp models why have an amp?
valid hornet
https://www.thatguitarlover.com/blog/the-frfr-speaker
^^^^
velvet hornet
Surely I can put an amp modeler in front of an amp
No. An fx loop would work, but in front of an amp will make it sound bad
I run my quad cortex through the fx loop of my 5150, sounds good
velvet hornet
Do amps sound betterr than amp modeler
Not unless you spend thousands of dollars
velvet hornet
So why do people spend money on amps
They don't trust PCs. Imagine performing at a gig and you get the blue screen in the middle of a song
Amp modelers are the cheapest way to get good tone
velvet hornet
Hmm, I would be playing in my bedroom
I recommend looking into studio monitors or a PA
brazen wolf
My friend has some and I am trying to be diffeernt
I have a PA
Pyle pro
Something like this
valid hornet
Do amps sound betterr than amp modeler
Depends
I love my amp sims but I would love a physical amp aswell
velvet hornet
How come you haven't ran the amp sims though that?
valid hornet
They don't trust PCs. Imagine performing at a gig and you get the blue screen in...
I mean if Metallica does it why can’t we
They run axe fx
velvet hornet
They run axe fx
Yeah but that's built for it. He's talking about why don't people run vsts live
Megadeth uses the quad cortex
rotund sierra
I mean if Metallica does it why can’t we
my guess is metallicas redundancy plan costs more than people’s entire rigs
valid hornet
Megadeth uses the quad cortex
Well Dave just started using that
velvet hornet
But using something like a laptop and an interface and an amp sim adds extra parts increasing risk of failure
valid hornet
my guess is metallicas redundancy plan costs more than people’s entire rigs
But that’s the thing one axe fx has enough for 2 guitarist and bassist atleast so
velvet hornet
https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PWMA330-Wireless-Battery-Powered/dp/B001OS520A/r...
Did you try connecting your interface to that
valid hornet
And not likely anything to happen
brazen wolf
I don't have an interface
rotund sierra
But using something like a laptop and an interface and an amp sim adds extra par...
i mean, amps can blow tubes, transformers, everything inside them can break, so it’s not really more stuff than running a tube amp, just comes in a different form
brazen wolf
Would get one
velvet hornet
i mean, amps can blow tubes, transformers, everything inside them can break, so ...
I'm just giving the answer I got from the mods when I asked the same question
rotund sierra
i think the issues are somewhat more likely to occur, computers can be dicky but it’s also less severe the majority of the time. if you blow your output transformer it’s goodnight for the gig, a blue screen is a 5 minute intermission
velvet hornet
I don't have an interface
But you have the PA, right?
That would work with your amp sim
velvet hornet
It buzz a lot
Are you plugging your guitar directly into the PA or something?
velvet hornet
It buzz a lot
Buzz could be the guitar, could be the cable
brazen wolf
I touch the guitar it mostly stops buzzing
velvet hornet
Try just using it to listen to music. Connect it to your phone and see if it sounds good
brazen wolf
No bluetooth
velvet hornet
I touch the guitar it mostly stops buzzing
Yeah then that's a guitar issue, not a PA issue
velvet hornet
No bluetooth
If your phone has an aux input, you could use a cable to connect your phone to the PA
If you play music through the PA and it sounds good, it'll sound good with your amp sims
velvet hornet
Really
Normally a PA isn't meant to be a guitar amplifier, you don't plug the guitar directly into it. A PA is how an audience listens to the music. They normally put a microphone in front of a guitar amplifier, and then after that signal is processed, they sent it along with every other instrument to the PA
If you run an amp sim through it, it's removing the amplifier and the microphone from the equation, so all you have to do is just send that signal to the PA
velvet hornet
Really
That's actually my main rig currently. I'm using a quad cortex into a PA
And then I just bought my brother a digital drum set, he sends his drum signal to the PA as well
And we both come out of the same speaker
It's more meant for the entire band to come out of
brazen wolf
Can you link me looking on amazon
velvet hornet
Or songs. You can just play songs through it
brazen wolf
I can only see on dsp stuff
velvet hornet
Can you link me looking on amazon
A link for what?
velvet hornet
https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PWMA330-Wireless-Battery-Powered/dp/B001OS520A/r...
I thought you had this
velvet hornet
The quad crotex
Oh that's going to be out of your budget. But you can use a focusrite scarlett solo and an amp sim on your PC for the same thing
velvet hornet
You can get that same thousand dollar tone if you get the focusrite and a neutral dsp amp sim
What genre of music are you into
We can get you great tone with about $200
velvet hornet
pop I guess
So get this for now
Do you have an instrument cable?
I would look into these plugins when you get your interface. They have free trials
https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/tone-king-imperial-mkii
velvet hornet
So all I need is a plugin and a PA
And interface
brazen wolf
Okee
Hmm
THis is like 50 dollars for me
45 + 10 shipping
Good price?
Right I need an interface
velvet hornet
https://pay.ebay.com/rgxo?action=view&sessionid=1586598431
It's not letting me view the items
brazen wolf
Hmm
worthy cape
So why not get a Catalyst, or Katana amp with built in effects? I scrolled, if it has been asked, or addressed forgive me. You can still use physical pedals with these too.
brazen wolf
Yeah that can also do the trick
But my idea is that its cheaper just to have a cabinet of speakers
raw parrot
What do you mean "cabinet of speakers"? I'm quite confused on what you're looking for, if you're going to play with an amp sim using an interface and a computer, just get speakers that hook up to the interface
brazen wolf
What do you mean "cabinet of speakers"? I'm quite confused on what you're lookin...
Yeah this is what I mean. Amp sims are comparable to amps.
How good can plugins simulate amps; is that what neural dsp is trying to do/
