Which guitar is better?

[carmine stag]

Jackson RRX24 or Jackson Pro RRT-3? Quality, sound and all that

[willow anchor]

Quality the rrt sound subjective cause passive or active, tho the rrx by default has better tuning stability

[carmine stag]

You know that i already have the RRX24 but if i want im able to replace it with the rrt3

and

it kind of bothers me that im only able to play metal with it and kind of stuck to one tuning

and its better quality and i like the normal headstock more

[willow anchor]

You aren’t only able to play metal you can anything

Also I wouldn’t recommend Jackson hardtail with the 6 in line

[carmine stag]

i know but its not that suitable for this guitar

why

[willow anchor]

Bs

[willow anchor]

Negative tuning stability

[carmine stag]

i mean the tuning stability on this guitar isnt the best either

[willow anchor]

It’s better than hard tail Jackson

[carmine stag]

ive never heard anyone complain about it. how easily does it go out of tune

[willow anchor]

@elfin spruce get in here with your rhoads stories

[elfin spruce]

Mine used to go out of tune mid song

[carmine stag]

so i should keep the rrx24?

[elfin spruce]

Only stopped when I finally did something about this god-awful headstock

[elfin spruce]

Yes

That has a locking nut

[willow anchor]

Replace the Floyd and then go to go

[carmine stag]

is it something that locking tuners would fix

[willow anchor]

No cause that’s not what they do

[carmine stag]

what causes it to go out of tune

[willow anchor]

Yeah but has nothing to do with bad tuners

[elfin spruce]

Dog, it's had locking tuners on it since I got it working

[carmine stag]

ok, but if you have locking tuners and barely have the string go around the peg, there wouldnt be anything to move around

[elfin spruce]

Besides, locking tuners do nothing for stability unless you suck at winding strings

[elfin spruce]

The problem here isn't the amount of string from the tuner to the nut

[willow anchor]

POV me

[carmine stag]

how come other guitars with hard tail bridge arent known for going out of tune

why jackson

[elfin spruce]

Two words: Break angle

Look at Ibanez

Nice n straight all the way through

[carmine stag]

the angle from the nut to the peg

[elfin spruce]

Now look at Jackson

[carmine stag]

the angle between from the bridge to the nut, and from the nut to the peg?

[elfin spruce]

Even with the strings wound backwards, the strings still sit at a very harsh angle from the nut to the tuner

This causes the strings to bind in the slots, causing instability

A locking nut completely negates that, which is why Jackson was able to get away with a functionally bad headstock design

[carmine stag]

ok imagine if the rrt also had a floyd special, which one would be better then

kinda obvious

[elfin spruce]

The one with the floyd

Because you can swap for a good trem

[willow anchor]

Exactly

[carmine stag]

if both have a special

[elfin spruce]

There's nothing you can do outside of redneck bullshit to help a hardtail Jackson

[elfin spruce]

Idk

Could be the same

[willow anchor]

Solution here

Rr3 Floyd

[carmine stag]

too expensive

[elfin spruce]

Don't you already have the RRX?

[willow anchor]

It’s 200 more than the rr3ht

[carmine stag]

@elfin spruce

[elfin spruce]

Just put a Gotoh GE1996T on your RRX then

[willow anchor]

And don’t do that if you want a hardtail V get a schecter

Or Ltd

[carmine stag]

too modern

[willow anchor]

And like the Jackson ain’t

[carmine stag]

what if i also like the rrt3 more

[elfin spruce]

Okay

Level with me

[carmine stag]

idk white with black pinstripes and goldhardware is pretty classy

[elfin spruce]

Are you really gonna go and do this

[carmine stag]

no

[elfin spruce]

So don't get the rr3t

[willow anchor]

Here’s not modern for you

[elfin spruce]

Get the rr3

[willow anchor]

1958 Gibson Flying V

[elfin spruce]

Teensy bit crusty

[carmine stag]

i could not hate a guitar more

tuning stability. RRT-3 vs some random gibson les paul

or sg

whatever

[willow anchor]

Jackson worse

[elfin spruce]

About the same

But at least you can put a string butler on a Gibson

[carmine stag]

a what

[carmine stag]

i googled it and hell no

[willow anchor]

I thought about getting one of my Ltd but it doesn’t need it

[carmine stag]

@elfin spruce with no locking nut, would a reversed jackson headstock stay in tune better than a normal

[elfin spruce]

Hell no

It just shifts the problem to the bass side instead

It's the exact same angles as a non reverse

[carmine stag]

dont wounded strings stay in tune better

[elfin spruce]

If they have the environment to

It's still an angle that'll cause binding

[carmine stag]

ok

how come the rrt is such a popular guitar still

[willow anchor]

Because Randy rhoads

[elfin spruce]

Cause it's a Randy sig from a big name

[willow anchor]

I played a Scott Ian signature Jackson without locking nut that shit didn’t not stay in tune

I genuinely wonder if an evertune would fix that

[elfin spruce]

Evertune vs Jackson I6

The unstoppable force vs the immovable object

[mystic shard]

Ok for some reason my hardtail rhoads stays in tune

But it was 200 bucks

[rancid hearth]

you'll be praising it when zombies arrive at your doorstep

best guitar sword I've seen yet

[elfin spruce]

Dog the headstock is the end you hold

The body is the part you smack/stab em with

[rancid hearth]

valid