#need help with an ambient part

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stiff mauve
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ok

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again, this isnt a "song" you cover

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this is a slowly moving improvisation

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at 8:05

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you can improvise over some chords if you like

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stiff mauve
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Also i am not good at improvising

stiff mauve
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and you can get better at that if you want

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But it's a song not an improvisation

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Played many times live

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Recorded in a studio

stiff mauve
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this is improvisation. its not a "song" like that. and if you want to use that lens and copy this playing, you can do that. you are welcome to. please listen and do like i did ^ and know the chords and hear the notes that are being played, and you can copy as much of that as you care to.

stiff mauve
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then, as them for the chart and just read it

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i promise you, this isnt a 'song' with a melody like that at 8 minutes

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and if you think it is or disagree, thats fine

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learn the notes

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you can hear them

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you dont have to agree with me

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just learn that part if you want

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# stiff mauve <@1184556638938599457>

I understand what you are saying man. I know they were just messing with each other when they first came up with it and each one came up with his part in that moment at that time

stiff mauve
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if you need help with something specific, timestamp it so i can focus on it

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please harmonize a Db major scale

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please look at how that harmony is present here

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please notice how those notes are what are happening, if you need to mimic that melody that is being played or improvised, or any of the harmony or notes happening at the time you mentioned

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But problem is i am not that good with chords formation or improvisation, i am starting to learn that and get more into actually hearing what's going on.
I just have a talent show at my college and i pretty much got the whole thing happening except for that ambient guitar at 8:05

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To the end

stiff mauve
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"I just have a talent show at my college and i pretty much got the whole thing happening except for that ambient guitar at 8:05" ok

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i suggest, make your own ambient music

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more like these people did ^

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stiff mauve
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do that, instead of just mimicing this like its a metallica song

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But what i need is the ambient guitar playing in the background

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stiff mauve
stiff mauve
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it sounds "out of place" because you are indeed "out of place:

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its just Db up there! its all just Db music

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please, take the suggestions given

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please harmonize a Db major scale

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please play the shape xx899 and hear how this is part of Db

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thats all that is happening back there

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you can play any Db harmony here

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this is all just Db, man

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i get it

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you have a show and you want to do this. i dont suggest that

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i suggest, doing what these people did and make your own jam

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if you wont, you wont

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please harmonize a Db major scale, tho, actually

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you asked and that will, like i said , get you all this music

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I understand here that you want me to learn the thing itself and not just copying what other did cause that's music

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Not a copying game

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I will try to harmonize the Db major scale and see how this gonna work

stiff mauve
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no

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i dont care what you learn'

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im just letting you konw, this isnt how that music was made

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so, if you want to 'copy' this vibe, its like i said already

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its like scripting an impromptu conversation

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which, you can do

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you do that like im showing you ^

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its all just Db

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I understand

stiff mauve
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im just adding here, how you can make this music, because its not made that way

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and its knowable and doable

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But how is it Db and the guy playing is playing high on the neck

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And changing chords

stiff mauve
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ask them

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Tremelo strumming them fast

stiff mauve
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this is all just Db

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i think you are making a lot of assumptions, visually

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I guess i should focus more on the sound

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You're right

stiff mauve
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but i would just have my own idea and develop it instead

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regardless, you can hear how much like that this sounds