Looking for a whole guitar set-up, first-timer with no prior experience!

[pliant nova]

Hi guys! I'm looking for some recommendations for things to purchase for my first-ever guitar set-up.

I'm looking for pedals, an amp, cords, and to choose a guitar! The current three guitars I'm most interested in are the Epiphone Les Paul, the Stratocaster, and the Telecaster deluxe.

For amps, so far I've been recommended the Fender LT25 or Katana 50 MK2 (I think I'm going to go with the Fender LT25 since I heard it works a lot better when it comes to high gain and clean sounds.)

For pedals, I'm assuming that as of currently I wouldn't need them as the amp is supposed to have them built in apparently; as for the effects/pedals that I may be looking for, the type of sound I'd like to emulate is similar to these videos I found.

1. https://www.instagram.com/reel/Co3M-68D3gC/?hl=en

2. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpD8JydD5O4/?hl=en

3. https://www.tiktok.com/@yuma.afy/video/7320955787726097669

What I was told was making it sound deep in 1/2 could possibly be any of these pedals: "Pitch shifting pedal, Digitech drop, Digitech whammy, the Pitchfork, or maybe an Octave pedal."

I'm hoping to also narrow it down to a specific 2/3 pedals or less that are most applicable for emulating the sound instead of five pedals or more pedals that might possibly be able to emulate it: I'm also trying to figure out if it would be possible to emulate said sounds with the built-in effects/pedals of an amp.

(As for Amp recommendations, anything that could possibly emulate the sounds in the videos I sent is something I'd love to learn more about!)

The specific style that I was told I was looking for is "High gain, Silky smooth distortion type stuff, the stuff you would hear in the '80s." (Best way to see for yourself though I'd say is to look at the video's!)

I'm also a big fan of Foreigners guitar in Jukebox hero, so if I were to have another example of sound, it would be that, that's also where I originally wanted to get into playing electric guitar because of the Les paul used in the video.

As for cords, and any other things I might need to make a guitar work properly aside from an amp / pedals, I know absolutely nothing, so please recommend anything you think would suit what I'm getting!

I also need a guitar pick, so if you know any that would also help to produce those types of sounds, let me know!

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[velvet quest]

that is a lot of words lol, give me a second

also it looks to be lacking any sort of budget

[pliant nova]

Also, budget for the whole set-up is probably anything under 1000$, preferably 200-300 for the guitar itself and 300-500 for any extra parts! (Feel free to recommend higher though as this is subject to change and I don't really know the prices when it comes to parts and guitars.)

[pliant nova]

NOTICED AFTER I POSTED LOLL

[pliant nova]

info abt budget is here!

[pliant nova]

correct

[velvet quest]

you won't need pedals starting out

they are expensive and definitely one trick ponies

a pedal 90% of the time does one thing, doing more also costs more

a katana is always better than a mustang LT25/50

[pliant nova]

from what i heard its not great for high gain / clean sounds

[velvet quest]

if you want pedals in future you could look at a katana 100

it's pretty good imo

katana 100 has an fx loop

[pliant nova]

im most concerned abt the sound itself

[velvet quest]

the base 50 one is solid, but can be cumbersome for changing tones mid songs if that's something you wanna do

yea get a 50 then

[pliant nova]

because i know if it doesnt sound the way i want it to im gonna hate it

[velvet quest]

tbh that's gonna take time to figure out messing with settings

[pliant nova]

all i want is to play the way this random man on instagram does

[velvet quest]

it's not gonna sound like you want it to out of the box

[pliant nova]

random man cited above

[pliant nova]

yee i understand adjustments and such i just mean like the specific gear to accomplish what im looking for

[velvet quest]

well the top two are a telecaster deluxe

[pliant nova]

the pedal is?

[velvet quest]

which is basically a humbucker telecaster

no

the guitar

[pliant nova]

i dont think so?

[velvet quest]

yes

it is

[pliant nova]

i was told it was a les paul

by multiple people

[velvet quest]

nope it's a telecaster

the last one is

[pliant nova]

oH WAIT

[velvet quest]

well telecaster deluxe

[pliant nova]

NVM YEAH

got confused as to which one you were talking abt

time to add telecaster to the list of guitars

[velvet quest]

https://www.fender.com/en-GB/electric-guitars/telecaster/american-vintage-ii-1975-telecaster-deluxe/0110332806.html

this is the top end vintage-spec model

[pliant nova]

2000$ GODDAAAMN

[velvet quest]

there are cheaper ones

https://www.fender.com/en-GB/electric-guitars/telecaster/vintera-ii-70s-telecaster-deluxe-with-tremolo/0149072341.html

[pliant nova]

from what im seeing sweetwater has some for like

200$>279$

[velvet quest]

they'll be squier yea?

[pliant nova]

yee

[velvet quest]

the difference between a telecaster and telecaster deluxe is mainly the pickups

but there's other small differences

https://www.fender.com/en-GB/electric-guitars/telecaster/?prefn1=series&prefv1=Made in Japan Hybrid II&start=0&sz=12

this is a japanese one

[pliant nova]

oo

[velvet quest]

wait no

https://www.fender.com/en-GB/electric-guitars/telecaster/2024-collection-made-in-japan-hybrid-ii-telecaster-sh/5660300300.html

it has a single coil bridge and a neck humbucker

which is cool

[pliant nova]

oooo

[velvet quest]

importing from japan is cheaper usually

[pliant nova]

interesting

im not sure if i should be trusted with that as a beginner though

like i dont think i

[velvet quest]

lol yea

it's just some examples

[pliant nova]

LIKE A 1000$ GUITAR WOULD SCARE ME TO PLAY

[pliant nova]

yeee

[velvet quest]

oh i have a few

lol

[pliant nova]

i do not

i have 0

the closest thing i have to a guitar is this keith urban acoustic shit that comes with his cds

with broken strings 😭

absolutely hate it and never used it

[velvet quest]

so you're interested in telecasters then

that's a good start

[pliant nova]

i mean i have other guitars i mentioned i was interested in

[velvet quest]

ideally with humbuckers

yea

[pliant nova]

theres a lot of detail in my thing

[velvet quest]

les pauls are cool

[pliant nova]

yes

[velvet quest]

but i just found them annoying to play

do you wanna play mostly sitting down or standing up?

[pliant nova]

sitting probably

if im performing though it would be standing

[velvet quest]

i found they suck while sitting tbh

they're heavy and the guitar has too much ass lol

a significant amount of it hangs over your leg

it doesn't feel right to me

it might be different for you

so id recommend trying before buying

[pliant nova]

oooo i see

[pliant nova]

i kind of live

in the woods

[velvet quest]

hm

[pliant nova]

so i dont know if there's a guitar center

near me

lemme google it

[velvet quest]

can you make a les paul body from a tree and try it

[pliant nova]

lowkey this is rad

[velvet quest]

yea

[pliant nova]

found this when i looked up guitar center

KMFAOO

[pliant nova]

ofc ofc

[velvet quest]

it's a weird guitar

a strat could work as well imo

just get one with at least 1 humbucker

the shape of a guitar doesn't define how it sounds or can sound

amp, id just get a katana 50, and for a cable any braided cable will be good

and guitar picks i like dava picks

[pliant nova]

what is a humbucker

[velvet quest]

type of pickup

the two main types are a single coil and a humbucker

single coil is what it sounds like, a single coil of wire wrapped around a bobbin to form a pickup

with a humbucker, two of those are put together to make a pickup

results in a generally warmer, darker sound and as a bonus also eliminates any hum

[pliant nova]

what is a pickup

[velvet quest]

the thing that makes an electric guitar sound like an electric guitar

[pliant nova]

the ERRRROOWWEEERRR thing?

[velvet quest]

it's a coil of copper wire wrapped around a bobbin, usually plastic, with some magnets in

[pliant nova]

i see

[velvet quest]

when the string vibrates in the magnetic field it generates a current in the copper coil which is the signal that's sent to the amp

the amp amplifies it and you get a note

[pliant nova]

oooo

words

[pliant nova]

question

do you think ill be able to create that deep sound of 1) and 2) with the fender LT25 amp?

[velvet quest]

idk what you mean by deep sound

if you mean in terms of notes, that's dependant on your tuning

[alpine sandal]

If you have an opportunity to play a telecaster vs an Epiphone Les Paul, go try them. They are a different scale length so they will feel a bit different. Either should serve you well.

[knotty spade]

tubescreamer or blues driver + a stupid amount of reverb

katana can do it easily, but it's going to sound like poo in person

[pliant nova]

Thank you! tbh im probably just gonna have to eyeball it online

[pliant nova]

OOOO ALR GOTCHA

[slender badger]

did you read #795553671773290536 ?

[pliant nova]

i think i skimmed it but not fully LOL

ive gotten all my gear chosen now im just trying to pick a guitar

odd i thought i had a diff thread

[slender badger]

oops

[pliant nova]

did it get closed?!

[velvet quest]

https://www.fender.com/en-GB/squier-electric-guitars/telecaster/classic-vibe-70s-telecaster-deluxe/0374060505.html

Classic vibe telecaster deluxe maybe

[pliant nova]

OOOOO VERY NICEEEE i think my top two choices rn are these

[velvet quest]

oh fair

[pliant nova]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ifiBpwNi7mc?si=7dkn0YPRd9xmDllJ also this girl is selling me on the godforsaken buttercream when im trying to convince myself to get white

[velvet quest]

an actual fender strat

what is your budget then?

[pliant nova]

for the guitar?

[velvet quest]

yea

[pliant nova]

200-800 id say

[velvet quest]

id check the vintera series from fender as well

[pliant nova]

itll take more convincing but since this is an important birthday I think I could

[velvet quest]

they're very similar, but generally better value for money

[pliant nova]

oo alr

tbh I’m just trying to pick between the colors

[velvet quest]

i have a shell pink strat

it's very nice

[pliant nova]

that’s badass

[pliant nova]

DAAAAMN

[velvet quest]

it's unique having a solid rosewood neck as well

so it's 1 piece of wood

99% of the time guitar necks are mahogany or maple with a fretboard glued on, either maple or rosewood

do you like the classic headstock or the big one like on that squier i posted?

https://www.fender.com/en-GB/electric-guitars/stratocaster/vintera-ii-70s-stratocaster/0149032341.html

that one looks nice

[pliant nova]

whats a headstock again

[pliant nova]

OOO V PRETTY

[velvet quest]

the head of the guitar

[pliant nova]

I think that one might be more expensive than the one I found though

[pliant nova]

ooo

out of these Teo

[velvet quest]

you might be able to find one used for less

[pliant nova]

two

im think I’m gonna go with the white one

[velvet quest]

id not go off of fender's website

[pliant nova]

no I found a new one

for less

straight off fenders site

[velvet quest]

id not buy from fender directly

[pliant nova]

why

[velvet quest]

usually they're just sitting in a warehouse and haven't been given any sort of checks

before being sent to you

are you in the US?

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Fender/Vintera-II-50s-Stratocaster-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar-119599491.gc

[fluid beacon]

considering you're a new player i'd buy a really cheap but cool squier that makes you want to play. or a used fender

whatever makes you want to play

considering your first messages however, it seems to me that you think getting as good as that person on insta happens overnight

let me be the one to tell you,

it doesn't

it will take years

many years

i think a squier classic vibes is the best value for sound quality and physical quality

I personally am a big fan of fiesta red

very well playing: https://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier/Classic-Vibe-50s-Stratocaster-Maple-Fingerboard-Electric-Guitar-Fiesta-Red-1500000280814.gc

Another great one are these prs guitars

https://www.guitarcenter.com/PRS/SE-Silver-Sky-Electric-Guitar-Stone-Blue-1500000367907.gc

better than an American Fender IMO

But you should look beyond fender as a popular brand.

Look into Ibanez, PRS, Gibson/Epiphone, even acoustics

I think for a first setup that you dont even know you will ever use again after the first month

just drop like $300 on a squier affinity with a fender champ 20

the champ 20 has cool effects and sounds pretty good

the squier affinity is better than the cheapest sonic/bullet squiers in terms of quality

[pliant nova]

yes

[pliant nova]

checks?

[velvet quest]

if the guitar has any blemeshes, neck relief, fret ends, buzzing etc

sweetwater checks that

[pliant nova]

personally i dont really want to buy used and if im going to do this i want to make a significant investment into something ill actually want to pick up and play

[fluid beacon]

Used assures that pick up and play value

[pliant nova]

also no 😭 i know it takes a LONG ass time to learn

[velvet quest]

used instruments are a good way to get something great for a lot less

[fluid beacon]

used means that it is loved

[pliant nova]

i dont want someone else having used my guitar

[pliant nova]

by someone who is not me

[velvet quest]

all of my guitars bar 1 are used

[fluid beacon]

they will have likely changed the strings

[fluid beacon]

same

I love modded used guitars

[pliant nova]

like its all good to buy used

but its just not really for me

[fluid beacon]

fantastic, talented luthiers put insane effort into fretwork and technology

you're thinking of it like a used laptop

it's more its own thing

[velvet quest]

i managed to actually get a music man stingray, only because it was used

it would have cost me £3000 new

i got it for 50% of that

best instrument ive ever played

[fluid beacon]

great thing about used is that if you dont like it, you can resell it for the same exact price

and rest assured it will sell eventually

[pliant nova]

im a minor so im most likely never gonna sell it

[fluid beacon]

?

[velvet quest]

anywaty

[pliant nova]

this is going to be something thats most likely going to be my only guitar for atleast a few years

[pliant nova]

someone under the age of 18 essentially i dont have easy access to reselling

[velvet quest]

for fender mexico id recommend vintera if you can reach for it, they are the best values mexican fenders

[fluid beacon]

Alright,

in that case I'd get a squier

[velvet quest]

squiers are good

classic vibe

[fluid beacon]

I think for any beginner they should start with a squier

[fluid beacon]

THIS

[pliant nova]

rn im looking at this

https://www.fender.com/en-US/electric-guitars/stratocaster/player-stratocaster/0144502515.html?utm_campaign=gupta_ecomm_acquire_playerseries&src=PAIDGOOGLE18827614940&utm_id=18827614940&utm_source=pmax&utm_medium=paid&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgbfomqPZhQMVXHJ_AB1LBASiEAQYAiABEgJYVfD_BwE

decided on white over buttercream finally

[fluid beacon]

the diff between these and classic vibe squiers however is a slight diff in tonal quality

[velvet quest]

they're good guitars, just expensive for what they are

[fluid beacon]

IN THAT CASE https://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier/Affinity-Series-Stratocaster-Maple-Fingerboard-Electric-Guitar-Olympic-White-1500000348232.gc

[velvet quest]

i had one as my second guitar, i paid like $600 for it or about £500

[pliant nova]

LMFAOOO

[fluid beacon]

worse quality than the classic vibes

[velvet quest]

you could look at sire as well

[fluid beacon]

this is if you literally just want to try out a guitar

[velvet quest]

said budget was up to 800 and sire's guitars are great for the money

[pliant nova]

for the guitar up to 800

my budget has changed to accomodate since i learned abt this guitar

LOL

[fluid beacon]

if budget is up to 800 I'd just stick with a simple squier or used fender with a 50 watt katana amp

you get the effects

the quality

[pliant nova]

im gonna be getting a fender lt25

[velvet quest]

what made you choose that over a katana?

[pliant nova]

i watched some comparison videos and i liked the fender lt25 most when it comes to usability

[pliant nova]

app is better

[fluid beacon]

I'd say katana will have a much better versatility

[pliant nova]

katana looks too complicated

[tribal dune]

guys is boss katana mini good for first amp?

[velvet quest]

yea fender's UI is better, but the tone studio is incredible software

[velvet quest]

no

sorry but no

[fluid beacon]

nah

[fluid beacon]

fender champ 20

[pliant nova]

plus katana also apparently isnt as good at high gain

and clean

and those are the main sounds i want

[velvet quest]

imo they are

[fluid beacon]

I'd say the modeling amps wont be good at either of those anyways

[velvet quest]

my judas priest and chris isaak tones sound great

[pliant nova]

are you referring to the fender lt25?

[fluid beacon]

I love the katanas personally due to their versatility

[fluid beacon]

both

it's a fake sound

[pliant nova]

bc i heard this one dude recreate the exact sound i wanted

[fluid beacon]

technically

[pliant nova]

with his fender lt25 amp

[velvet quest]

true yea

[pliant nova]

so i think itll be fine

[velvet quest]

modelling amps wont sound exactly like dedicated effects

[pliant nova]

thats fine

the fender lt25 is able to get close enough imo

[velvet quest]

another way is to get a standard amp and a multifx pedal

[tribal dune]

i dont have much options to be honest. Marshall mg10g , katana mini , blackstar fly 3 , and other little battery amps

[fluid beacon]

sound isn't what you should worry about honestly, and if you are going to start, a safe bet for an amp that will last years is a 50 watt katana

[tribal dune]

which one is better than others at least

[velvet quest]

is headphone amp ok?

[pliant nova]

once again i dont think id like the katana very much

[tribal dune]

not really

[fluid beacon]

i heard the blackstar flys are great

[pliant nova]

the app is way too complicated for me

and i will quit

[velvet quest]

you don't have to set it up yourself

[tribal dune]

better than katana mini?

[velvet quest]

you can download thousands of patch files online

[fluid beacon]

yup

[pliant nova]

yes i do i have no friends

[fluid beacon]

I'm not sure

[pliant nova]

LMFAO

[velvet quest]

you simply click import on the file

boom

[pliant nova]

I DONT KNOW HOW TO DO THAT

[velvet quest]

your katana sounds like black sabbath

[fluid beacon]

this is why it's the best amp for beginners

get identical tones for songs

with the click of a button

[pliant nova]

guys i think your overestimating my skills here

i use a macbook

[fluid beacon]

my dude it's a file

you drag and drop

[velvet quest]

you see the little down arrow top right

[pliant nova]

my dude i had trouble with downloading cc for the SIMS

[velvet quest]

that's all you click

[pliant nova]

yeah but you have to download the file

the closest i have to recording software on my laptop doesnt do audio

[velvet quest]

there#s websites

that's how you download them

https://guitarpatches.com/patches.php?unit=katana

[fluid beacon]

it's very simple

just download and then go in the software

[velvet quest]

https://jucaneryguitar.com/product-category/katana-bundles-mkii/

[fluid beacon]

and click on the download

[velvet quest]

https://bosstoneexchange.com/gear/katana_mk2/?keyword=&gear=katana_mk2&view=block&sort=-createDate&from=1&size=24&tag=

[pliant nova]

you pay for them???!

[velvet quest]

juca nery is good, most of his stuff is paid but he has a lot of free ones as well

[pliant nova]

interesting

[velvet quest]

the boss tone exchange are all free

so are guitar patches

[pliant nova]

i dont know i just i really liked the fender lt25 usability a lot more

[fluid beacon]

JustinGuitar gives out patches for famous songs

[pliant nova]

i feel like id be able to use it easier

[fluid beacon]

like Nirvana etc

[velvet quest]

yea the fender stuff is easier to use but you have more limitations

[pliant nova]

like the boss has so many effects and things i feel like id get lost

[velvet quest]

id not go in with the mindset of "i can't do this"

[fluid beacon]

I'd suggest learning theory before buying a guitar

[velvet quest]

and instead be open to learning

[pliant nova]

cant wait to spend two years on that before getting the guitar itself

[pliant nova]

i saw the app in a comparison video

its not that i cant its that it looks frustrating

[fluid beacon]

without theory, you're not playing the guitar

you're more just copying other people who made the song you're playing

[pliant nova]

playing a guitar is strumming the string

thats all it takes

if you put a pick to a guitar and strum

[fluid beacon]

nope.

[pliant nova]

you've played a guitar

theres nothing philosophical to it

[tribal dune]

should i stay or should i go

[fluid beacon]

and you haven't

[velvet quest]

there's a bit more to it than that im afraid

[pliant nova]

if you sing your a singer

[velvet quest]

yea go for it

[fluid beacon]

you have no idea

[pliant nova]

i have actually i used to have an acoustic i hated

[fluid beacon]

beautiful!

[velvet quest]

pretty expensive from thomann though

check amazon

[pliant nova]

i dont need philosophical musical theory right now

[velvet quest]

oh nvm

[pliant nova]

all i need is to just do it

[velvet quest]

azerbaijan

[pliant nova]

thats all

[tribal dune]

thomann is safer tho right?

[velvet quest]

they're the same

[pliant nova]

it doesnt need to be complicated

[velvet quest]

they're retailers

[pliant nova]

stay

get it

[fluid beacon]

It's all technique, it's all theory, it's all rhythm

[pliant nova]

its a badass amp

[pliant nova]

you and i have different opinions about music

that is okay

[fluid beacon]

You're not the one who has played it for years

[pliant nova]

r u trying to skill shame me what kind of statement is this

[velvet quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td7BeVtP2OQ i think this is one of my favourite tones from this guy

[fluid beacon]

I'm trying to tell you that you're setting yourself up for failure

it's tedious

but worth it in the end

[pliant nova]

im not setting myself up for failure

[fluid beacon]

you have to learn the things you hate

[pliant nova]

not everyone learns music theory

[pliant nova]

no you dont

[fluid beacon]

look at kurt cobain,

[pliant nova]

im getting a guitar because i think it looks hot

thats it

thats all

that is the extent

[fluid beacon]

then you're likely to quit

[pliant nova]

or maybe.. people have different motivations than you

and thats okay

[fluid beacon]

I'm not stopping you from buying a guitar

I'm just saying

[pliant nova]

that im gonna quit?

[velvet quest]

to be fair

music theory doesn't dictate, it informs

[pliant nova]

like ive got nothing against music theory btw

[fluid beacon]

True, but you get my point

[velvet quest]

knowing it helps you understand why certain things work and how to make interesting music

[pliant nova]

its on my list of things to learn

im just not gonna wait to buy a guitar until i learn it

[pliant nova]

i agree!

[fluid beacon]

You don't have to,

but without it you're blocked at an early stage

you'll develop bad habits

[pliant nova]

thats fine

mistakes are part of growth

[fluid beacon]

when you inevitably will want to grow,

those bad habits will take forever to get rid of

[velvet quest]

you can always try rocksmith as well lol

that's a good motivator

[fluid beacon]

real

[pliant nova]

rocksmith?

[velvet quest]

yea

name a song you like

[pliant nova]

is that that one learning site

[velvet quest]

a mainstream one anyway

with geeter

[pliant nova]

jukebox hero

[velvet quest]

oh yea

ive played that one

[pliant nova]

LOL

[velvet quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D1eoTPZkUI

[pliant nova]

badass

[velvet quest]

rocksmith is sorta like guitar hero with a real guitar

so you can play along

either on lead guitar, rhythm guitar, or bass

it's fun, and it's a good practice tool

keeps your fingers moving

[pliant nova]

ooo!

very cool

[fluid beacon]

when you start learning,

[tribal dune]

can i crack it?

[fluid beacon]

a great thing is routine

[velvet quest]

probably, check your favourite software downloading site

[pliant nova]

already have routine goals and a plan in mind set up dw

[tribal dune]

fitgirl fr

[fluid beacon]

use this

trust me

https://youtu.be/O6CwG0fvqOM?si=IUltNfw9q2_R_1xe this mb

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ALRIGHTY

I shall add it to the list

but yeah back to the guitar

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this is your list

😉

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DANG

anyway im like

kinda sold on the specific fender

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a strat

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yee

my bbg

LOOL

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the one thing i don't like about players really, and this is because i have american ones now, is that the necks feel very plasticy and the shape feels funny

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ayo i developed downpicking habbit so i cant do alternate picking what should i do

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also i'd strongly recommend not getting one with a pau ferro fretboard

pick maple

always

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may i ask why

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it's an opinion, but i really don't like pau ferro

it kinda looks like ass and feels weird

let me show you

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alrr

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I'd spend a while on a metronome playing simple songs, downpicking then up picking

make sure you do it

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this is a US strat i have and it has a rosewood board

see how dark it is

it looks kinda nice

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the rosewood is so cool

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feels nice as well

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whats the advantage of learning alternate picking?

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this is my player strat

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ooo

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modded it a bit, but the neck is the same

the pau ferro looks anaemic

it's streaky, light, and i don't like how it feels

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fair

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also the edges are very square

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i like the maple better too i think

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it's a bit uncomfortable

on more expensive guitars, generally the fretboard edges are rounded a bit more

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anyway i think im gonna buy this one

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it makes it more comfortable

yea that looks nice

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love it sm

yee

its 800

but its alr

exactly in budget LMFAO

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my modded baby

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if you can order from sweetwater it'd be better

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rad

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or guitar center

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will it come w all the extra bits and pieces

like the case

and such

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unfortunately

player strats don't come with any case

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WHAAT

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none come with cases anymore really

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UR JOKING

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you only get them on player plus and above

nope

it's dumb

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ridonkulous

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an $1150 tom delonge guitar that recently released doesn't come with a case either

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I'd just get a cheap gig bag tbh

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not many do

i got an american fender from a place once

just a shitty gig bag

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my american performer does and it was less than a tom delonge here

anyway

it was a gig bag granted

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hard cases are obsolete now tbh

idk why i liked them

I still buy them

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i like them

but

music man started putting their guitars in mono cases as of 2023

and i really want one

they're very high quality soft hardcases/gig bags

my stingray is from 2018 so way before

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fenders are overrated tbh

I think the best bang for your buck right now is prs

old fashioned

I played a prs once

better than any fender I've ever tried

except my modded baby 😉

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@pliant nova https://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender/Player-Stratocaster-Roasted-Maple-Fingerboard-Limited-Edition-Electric-Guitar-Fiesta-Red-1500000389588.gc

you like any of the colours available on here?

this one is a little fancier as it has a roasted maple neck and expensive pickups

this thing is sorta similar https://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender/Player-Tex-Mex-Stratocaster-Limited-Edition-Electric-Guitar-Sonic-Blue-1500000379744.gc

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pretty but im kinda set on a white one

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reason i suggested them is because they're better value, but that's fair

i think it's like $700 on GC

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/StratPMPWT--fender-player-series-stratocaster-polar-white-with-maple-fingerboard

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Personally, and I know you dislike used, i would get a used fender Player strat for like $500 bucks

Fender strat from 1988,

beautiful vintage with hard case

a little weird

you can get like new ones for a bit more

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mmmmmmmm

its hella nice

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just check used ones near you, and buy from reputable people

check for fret buzz

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i have no idea how to do that

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ill send you a vid

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alr

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I DONT WANNA GET MURDERED BY AN OLD MAN

GONNA RUN INTO AN AXEMURDERER

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To be fair, the difference between buying new and used, is that with used you're able to see if it's a bad guitar before buying it

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you think guitarists can afford an actual axe

or know what a real axe is

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I've got to go,

however I wish you luck on your badass guitar journey

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THANKS MAN

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may you play the cleanest licks

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true

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have fun

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you a real one thanks man

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I hope you get something you like

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WILL DO

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adios

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ME TOOO, GL W UR JOURNEY TOO

ADIOS

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do y;all think it would be better to buy online from guitar center or from sweet water

also are there any benefits / differences to buying from fender themselves

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no benefits to buying from fender

sweetwater would be the best place to buy from

i have a 10% discount from fender though if you'd like to use it

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thats because they do they checking right?

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YOO

i was very much thinking abt it

r u sure fender doesnt check the guitars??

also for set-up

does it mean like id have an easier time w the guitar if i bought from sweetwater?

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your odds of getting a nicer guitar from sweetwater are higher

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alr sweetwater it is then

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x17PAJZIXtQ

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now the real question is whether i should get the 275$ one or the 800$ one

like id prefer to not have to upgrade

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really your choice

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is the 800$ one better?

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with the increase in price you should get better components and better fit and finish

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i see

800$ it is then

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the pickups in the player series are a little on the hot side

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also

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vs something like a vintera

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is the 275$ one (the squier)

easier for beginners

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no guitar is easier or harder

it's your preference entirely

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debatable

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how

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this is easier than a fender strat

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ok but that has 4 strings

it would be a bass

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google tells me fender stratocasters are a bass

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LMFAOOO

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guess your new guitar will sound like this then

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STOPPP

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https://tenor.com/ehIet6SiUA2.gif

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LMFAOOOOO

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fender stratocaster

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real

@velvet quest im looking for the guitar on sweetwater and all the options i find are 300$ more than guitar center or fender

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https://tenor.com/bcJhR.gif

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DAMN

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jimmy page playing the bass

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lOOL

anyway im looking for the guitar on sweetwater and all the options i find are 300$ more than guitar center or fender

like 2,200$ / 1,200$ for sweetwater

@velvet quest is there a reason for that

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are you looking at the right guitar?

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💀

the one on the right is a custom shop guitar

the one on the left is a USA made vintage recreation

custom shop guitars are almost entirely handmade

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OH

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sobs

i dont think i can find the exact guitar on the site

i think im gonna have to get it off guitar center

or fender

whichever has better chances

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you can

just type in fender player stratocaster

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alr

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https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/StratPMPWT--fender-player-series-stratocaster-polar-white-with-maple-fingerboard

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OH SHIT ITS RIGHT THERE

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pick the lightest

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WHY DIDNT IT COME UP EARLIER

wait

thats a different color

olympic white vs polar white

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they're diff colors / shades

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hmm

what about this one

https://www.fender.com/en-GB/electric-guitars/stratocaster/player-plus-stratocaster/0147312323.html

it's a bit over $800 but it being a player plus it has fancy features

discount puts it down to $900

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wh

im looking for the specific olympic white guitar not a whole different side coloring man 😭

plus that ones from fender atp id just buy the original one from the fender site

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uh

fender doesn't do an olympic white player from what im seeing

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it's polar white

nothing else

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look

they're different

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they are the same guitar

different photos

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why do they have different white names then

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im looking at the player strat, there's polar white and that's it

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it looks more yellow on fender's site

this is polar white

also polar white

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this is apparently polar white

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see how even the photos are different

for the same finish

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oye

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olympic white is a lot more pronounced yellowing

that is the same guitar

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there is no way

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yea

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thats the same color

theres

no

way

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this is actually olympic white

it's more yellow

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OH MY GOD WAIT YOUR RIGHT

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lol

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😭

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so you want olympic white?

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nah polar white / the style of the one on the fender website is fine

i was just absurdly confused

@velvet quest does this matter

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no not really

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does it get set up with purchase naturally

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a plek machine is a machine that measures the height of the frets then flattens them

so they're all even and perfect

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i don't think it will from sweetwater unless you request it

you can wait until you get it then take it to someone

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cries

is it plausible to set it up myself

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yea

just takes some learning and a few tools

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i see

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mostly allen keys

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from what i heard sweetwater essentially gets them to you playable

right out of the box

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yea, they'll make sure that there's not glaring issues

but they won't do a full setup

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i see

is a full setup necessary for use?

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if you're having issues with playability, a setup can help a lot

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i see

is it necessary though in general?

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id recommend it

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i see

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you're basically making the guitar more comfortable to play

https://www.sweetwater.com/used/listings/121396-used-fender-player-stratocaster-polar-white-with-maple-fingerboard

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from what i heard for a lot of setups its like 100$

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can you explain more as to what that means

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depends who you go it

go to

a major part of playability is the action

which is the height of the strings from the top of the frets

the smaller the gap, the less you need to press

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that guitar has herpes /hj

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nah that's just the light

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oo

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i saw that because it's mint but is $725

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oo i see

tbh i feel like id rather just buy new if its 725

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that's $75 toward a setup

😉

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oh my god there's hair on it

IM ZOOMING IN

THAT FURRY CARPET IS SHEDDING

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SIGHS

do guitar repair shops do set-ups?

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yea usually

id avoid guitar center for them

expensive and not doing a very good job

independant luthiers and techs are the best place to go

just type luthier near me into google

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oo

i see one near me as the first result

i also see a local place

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one small mod id suggest for a player strat is having the nut replaced

use a tusq XL one

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oooo i see

ill probably see what they rec at the place

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they'll probably be able to make you a bone one

tusq xl is great because it's synthetic and self-lubricating

having the strings to be able to move freely through the nut is important for tuning stability

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oooo

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Those are great little guitars. Love the 50’s neck

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arguably harder

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OH??

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poorer quality+worse out the box setup

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damn