#hey fellas! i wanna learn some songs but i cant find the strumming

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solemn jasper
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i really wanna learn some sonic the hedgehog songs, but i dont know the strumming for some, some songs i wanna learn are: live and learn, i am... all of me (for that i maybe have found the strumming), sonic heroes and fist bump (for that i havent looked). if you guys can give me somewhere to learn each of those and if the strumming isnt told here to tell me i would really appriciate that!

onyx pecan
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If you want to link one of those here, we can tlak about it

solemn jasper
solemn jasper
onyx pecan
solemn jasper
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I am all of me

inland merlin
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strumming is the rythm

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wich you can just guess by l hearing the song

formal pike
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"but different songs require different strumming" they are actually all quite similar

solemn jasper
solemn jasper
# formal pike

hey! its been a while, i watched the video and i maybe understand it, and i think i may have explained myself bad, i do know how to strum and even if strumming is simmilar between songs its still different, i dont really get how to know what strumming a song is using

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if its not too much to ask, can you help me understand how to know strummings of songs? if the only way is to listen to it and/or find it on google can i maybe give you a song and youll tell me the strumming?

onyx pecan
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It's always just your hand moving back and forth like a pendulum.
Every time it's the same

You just choose when you make contact with the string and when you dont

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Learn to Count evenly with Quarter notes and 8th notes you'll see what I mean

formal pike
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@solemn jasper you cant google and get a simple sentence. if you do that you get complicated looking D U patterns

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every strumming pattern you will ever encounter is a pendulum action

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@solemn jasper you can choose a specific song and we can talk about that 'strumming pattern'

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you can get your guitar and work on the technique of strumming, instead of trying to sound like a song

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learn to 'listen to it' and hear what is happening

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you can choose a song and we can talk about it. you can get your guitar, choose one chord, and make that one chord feel like music strumming many different ways

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but the arm always moves like a pendulum, in time, with a groove

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the issues you have are..

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you stop the arm, thinking "up, down, up" etc

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you pause to try and change chords like you are playing a piano instead of a guitar

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instead of working on the technique, you are listening to a song, trying to mimic a song, and judging that you dont sound like the song, and stopping or playing it "wrong" over and over

solemn jasper
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Hey! Thank you both for the explanations, I feel like I am hard to worth with, I appreciate your help, anyway, a song I really like that I would like to learn is called green light ride

formal pike
solemn jasper
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i think there may be strumming a little bit after the start of the song, though i dont know what picking is so that what it may be. i have found those tabs https://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/crush-40-green-light-ride-trailer-ver-tab-s443559 which idk if are good, i aint sure what each symbul means including the lines under the notes, and what to sturm up and what down (idk if that matters). if its ok, can you explain to me what all 3 symbul there mean? the / one the like on the side ) one and the one under the notes? also if i find tabs for a song, how do i know if to sturm them for up or from down? i do apolgozie if i am hard to help to, i really appriciate your help

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i hope those tabs are good

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also question, will i learn to understand to play songs by hearing simply by playing the guitar a lot, or do i need to spesifcly practice to learn to play songs by hearing?

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i see that some notes are in (), what does that mean?

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sorry for all the questions

solemn jasper
solemn jasper
# formal pike

another question 😅 what is the "picking" you refered to?

formal pike
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its not really "strumming" here. but if you 'll close the "tab" midi playback you are trying to use

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and listen to the actual guitar playing ^

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you'll be able to hear the guitar

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and you can get more attuned to hearing the pick, of the musician, moving up and down, like a pendulum..

solemn jasper
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i get that every strumming is moving the hand up and down like a pendulum, my problem is understanding when to sturm the guitar and when to dont, and the rythem is maybe a problem ig

formal pike
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sure. and the song you are asking about doesnt do "strumming".. its a rock song

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there's no strumming in it

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there's some similar pedulum action with alternate picking and playing chords that way

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but you wont get the "strumming pattern" for "green light ride".. theres' no strumming in it

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you can hear the picking tho

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please listen to the original track @solemn jasper

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notice how my hand is moving back n forth like a pendulum

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you can also pick the power chords for that rock song that way

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would you like do to that?

solemn jasper
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hey, what does LMK stands for?

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also, i still dont understand what picking is, and i aint sure i know what power chords are

formal pike
formal pike
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"strumming" is a specific type of picking

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typically, strumming all the strings playing open chords

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this music is not quite that. its more just picking 2 or 3 notes

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specifically, power chords

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which, we could get into scemantics about if those chords are being "strummed"

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but the distinction here is? there's no strumming patterns, etc

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its just rock n roll power chords

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power chords are chords that are just the root, and the 5th.. maybe another root on top

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but crude, simple, singular shapes for major and minor chords, meant to be fun and easy.

solemn jasper
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i kinda understand, about your explantion, i think its great, some of it i maybe didnt understand, there is one part that i didnt understand (and it may be the only one) cuz of a word i maybe dont know (english aint my first langugue), anyway so now for me to learn this song i need to know what those symbals mean, can you expalin to me? also how do i know in the song when do i pick from up and when from down? i do apologize if i asked for to much help.

formal pike
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oh! on the songster tab

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yeah, i didnt and wouldnt use that

solemn jasper
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thats a video though i need tabs

formal pike
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please note, thats litearlly all you have RN is tabs that you look at, and they dont help you play the song you want to play

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if you learn to hear that music, then you can hear what is happening and play it

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you can make your own tab that you'll understand

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otherwise, songster is quite well supported

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these are the power chords i played, and described, and that someone described in tab here for you

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this root, 5th and octave like i described

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Db power chord ^

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the numbers are frets and the lines are the strings

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so

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get the guitar

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put your index finger on the 4th fret of the A string

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and your ring and pinky on the 6th of the D and G string

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play that, and you'll hear this is the power chord that is in the music you want to be playing

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it will benefit you greatly to simply pause learning this music, or the "Strumming", etc..

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close this

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@solemn jasper you just need fundamentals. you are trying to skip them

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use justins free courses to learn how to play the music you are trying to play.

solemn jasper
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do i need to do ALL of the courses that you gave me before i learn green light ride? and i am a liltle confused, when i learn the song i shouldnt use the link i gave you? should learn it from hearing? if i should learn it from hearing, how? ill maybe wont read your answers today, i think i am getting pretty sleepy and i am in friends in a call and i have ocd, which is probably what makes reading hard (maybe not exactly hard) for me

formal pike
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"when i learn the song i shouldnt use the link i gave you?"

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im learning that music from the original recording

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if you cant/wont do that

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then you have to use the tab

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and im showing you a resource you can use to "know what those symbals mean, can you expalin to me?"

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this is me offering justin's free courses which explain all that and more

solemn jasper
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thank you so much for your help dude! you are truly awesome! i wanna ask, so i CAN use the tabs i sent right?

formal pike
# solemn jasper thank you so much for your help dude! you are truly awesome! i wanna ask, so i C...

if you could? you would be. im not saying "you cant use the tabs".. we are talking because those arent working for you. and im letting you know, im not learning that music that way. that was real time. you mentioned that song, i looked it up on youtube, pressed play and showed you how i listened, and heard the power chords, and heard the picking, and talked down how that looks the same as the pendulum, etc.. you "CAN" use any resource that is working. since that resource didnt work for you, you came here asking about "strumming patterns". and eventually that led to you sharing what music you were looking at, where, you can watch me actively learn that music, and demonstrate it not using any "tab". im able to do that because, i invested time learning how music and the guitar works, instead of asking 'where do i put my fingers?' and looking at tab. you have that tab. if its working? its working.. since its not? maybe look over the resources ive shared above which show how power chords work. and how "strumming" and picking work. so, you can hear, simple, crude music like that and not be spending days at it..

solemn jasper
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hey, are you sure that in one of those links there is a place that explains me what does symbols mean? if yes, can you tell me what link and what lesson? also, is there a lesson that tells me how to know in tabs when to play the guitar from up to down and when from down to up in one of those links? if yes what lesson and what link?

formal pike
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the site you are using for tab. you can ask who made it what the symbols they wrote mean

solemn jasper
formal pike
# solemn jasper how?

you would look who made it and send them a message like this "hey! the tab you made, can you tell me what the symbols mean?".. but i do suggest, simply look up how to read tab.

solemn jasper
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is there like a channel here for tabs?

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also, i do know the basic of reading tabs, just dont know some symbols

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most probably

formal pike
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^ please use this ^

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it says "how to read guitar TAB" and will help you with the symbols, and the "basic of reading tabs"

formal pike
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if you'll just start at justin, it'll be a lot easier for you. you can use https://www.justinguitar.com/songs instead of the TAB you are using

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it'll all be obvious with some intentional study on your part

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when you ask " just dont know some symbols" just ask

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you can, again, learn to hear the music like i did

solemn jasper
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i saw the video of the first lessn in the how to read guitar tab link and now i notice that under it there is an explantion on some symbols, it tell "- Picking directions. Shown above the notes." but that text doesnt tell me how it looks like and how do i know to read that symbol, can you explain to me that symbole?

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also, which of the courses will help me learn music from hearing?

formal pike
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" that text doesnt tell me how it looks like and how do i know to read that symbol, can you explain to me that symbol" what will be easier will be, when you have a symbol, and you say "hey, i dont know what this symbol means?" and ideally, you simply ask who put it there.. or you can ask here, or in #playing-techniques💪

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othewrise, picking direction..

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i showed how that music you are asking about works

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its alternate picking.. like a pendulum

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otherwise, the "symbols" for that..

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this is from typing "picking direction notation" into google

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@solemn jasper the issue is, anyone can write anything anytime. so you cannot know how some person or some person's software or AI will try and generate tab for something

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the "best" way, is learn to hear music, and then you can make whatever tab for whatever music you like

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i hear that simple, crude rock music for this video game and i hear the 2 note chords. i hear the harmony moving thru the few simple chords.. i hear the "strumming" pattern (which i have explained isnt quite strumming, but is simply rock n roll picking of power chords, and gave you resources to look that genre and technique up and learn about it).. i can hear the pick and discern how its moving.. and im happy to share with you how i hear that. but it was by playing this music.. power chords. there's no "strumming patterns".. its always just back n forth like a pendulum.. you do not need picking direction notation for this.. its back n forth like a pendulum.

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in the first 12 seconds, theres 3 different picking techniques you can learn how to hear and use

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@solemn jasper until you learn that? it's going to sound nebulous, and you'll have no idea what is going on

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but this is simple, crude, loud, fun rock n roll

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its actually not even that.. its music hired to emluate that

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@solemn jasper please get your guitar and do the following

solemn jasper
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Hey, i guess I haven’t read the messages you sent since I sent my last message here. The thing between me and reading is complicated (like I believe I stated, I have OCD). I don’t read some of your messages the moment I see you sent them, hopefully that is fine by you. I will watch your video some other time, hopefully that is fine by you.

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I will read the messages you sent towards me, not now tho

solemn jasper
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i still havent read those i guess, i will maybe never will me never reading them is fine by you, will me later just looking over the messages, not nessacarly every word (idk if that counts as reading) and watching the video and maybe not reading the message be fine by you?

formal pike
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@solemn jasper whats up?

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im just explaining how i was able to do the thing you are asking about how to do

solemn jasper
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reading is kinda complicated to me probably cuz of my ocd can i just look over the messages and maybe not each word, (idk if that counts as reading) and watch the video?

formal pike
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..ok

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im not sure if you are asking me a question

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you are not obligated to read the responses typed to the question you typed and asked for responses to..

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if you are just saying "i aint reading all that" thats fine

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just listen to the music you asked how to play and learn to play it. if you need help, be clear about it. if you dont want to type and read help? use another outlet like lesson in person with someone you trust.

solemn jasper
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i believe you misunderstood, i am asking if i can just look over the messages and maybe not every word in them, and i dont know if that counts as reading, and ill watch the video, can i do that? ill maybe do that if you agree and if you agree to what i asked i will maybe read everything first try

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hopefully my last message isnt confusing

potent cargo
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The point of the videos and text is to convey some idea or thought... if you skim them and you can get the idea? That's great! If you skim them and you miss out on information? You'd be doing yourself a disservice

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I don't think anyone else can tell you what or how to read that works best for you

formal pike
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@solemn jasper start over if you like

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this is what you asked about playing

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what cant you play?

solemn jasper
# formal pike what cant you play?

Because I cannot learn it by hearing, I don’t know when strum the strings down and when up. And maybe I can’t find a source that I am comftroble with using. Still haven’t looked over some of your messages I will hopefully later

formal pike
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" I don’t know when strum the strings down and when up" we discussed this already. how would you like to receive this information? i typed this and made several videos

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this isnt "strumming" like that

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there's multiple guitar parts

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@solemn jasper the picking for both of the guitar parts at the beginning can be done all down.

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i suggest, practicing 3 note per string scales, alternate picking. have you done that, @solemn jasper ?

solemn jasper
# formal pike i suggest, practicing 3 note per string scales, alternate picking. have you done...

didnt watch the lastest video and read just this message from the messages you sent my since i sent my last message in this thread, i at least look over some other time (maybe read that includes that) at the messages and will watch the video some other time i do not know what that means i guess it is explained in the video, but ig i havent done that i didnt do much yet of what you told me to do, do you want me to do the things you tell me with a classic (maybe nylon) guitar or with an electric one?

formal pike
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this can be done on any instrument. im just playing the instrument i have in my hands answering the question you asked

solemn jasper
formal pike
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"just asked which one you want me to play" #1195834984217464973 message is where i typed the answer to that.. "this can be done on any instrument"

solemn jasper
formal pike
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its all just downpicking for the "rhythm" guitar. and the lead is moving slowly. you can pick that anyway you like. i sill suggest simply learning 3 note per string scales, alternate picking..

solemn jasper
solemn jasper
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still havent done what i told ill do, idk if i told ill do something, hopefully ill look on the chat here soon