Squier Affinity Starcaster Black MN

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https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Squier-Affinity-Starcaster-Black-MN/dp/B07T47X64T/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=starcaster&qid=1704622001&sr=8-6&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.d85e497d-ab66-4790-acf8-e520aaf28cd3 Is this good? If not, what are the other picks in price range of 400 euros. I want something with simillar shape and kinda modern look, not like its from 60`s. And how much do i have to expect to spend on AMP, etc.?

[reef musk]

Where are you located?

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Belgium

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yamaha pacifica would be good

112V maybe

amps could be around 200 euro

how much can you stretch for an amp?

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i just found orange 20

is that good?

and yeah, i need to be able to play through headphones

cuz im moving out of house to apps in few weeks

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yeah it's pretty good, but it has no effects i'm pretty sure

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so portable + you can play through headphones

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cant i buy pedals later?

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do you plan on connecting it to your pc and recording

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yea but they're better for stuff like concerts

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not rlly but i might want to show it off through discord

sometimes

like in vc

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Do you have a pc

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i do

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Is it decent

The specs

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yeah

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you could get an audio interface

they're pretty damn portable

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i dont really know

cuz

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How much is that orange 20

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and you can record on your pc

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i jsut want to play damn guitar

not learn another software

on top of guitar

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169

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or maybe a yamaha thr5, it works as both an amp and an audio interface

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and also

i found some guitars i like

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send

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but theyre on facebook

i planned to buy new

but i rlly liked those 2

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used is probably okay too

but i wouldn't go that route unless you can actually see the guitars for themselves

see their condition and stuff like that

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Damn

one just got sold

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Audio interface+ eris 3.5 reference monitor = 140 euro
You will not have hard time with it, just install the daw and the plugins you want, and you have infinite tones on your pc

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yea it's pretty damn versatile

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tbh i rlly want an amp... idk why

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but they did say they didn't want to deal with software

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but if you`re saying audio is better

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what's your budget though?

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then ill buy it

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both have their pros and cons

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idk 300 on guitar and 200 amp

maybe 400 for guitar

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200 sounds good

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im kinda new and i have hard time working hile studying

so i dont want to spend all my money

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if you don't need anything too portable then fender mustang lt25 maybe?

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you don't have to

there's a lot of options for 300$

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With an amp you would have limited tones you can achieve but audio interface has infinite. There are plugins everywhere, analog amp models, pedal models, ir's just like theyre irl

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or you can have something that works as both

like a yamaha thr5

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but why would anyone else buy amp

if soundcard is so much btter

you`re talking liek it got no cons

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it does have cons

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i rlly like the one you told tho

pacifika

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Its a controversional idea, some say analog is better some say digital

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i think

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yes, it's portable, it's versatile
but you have to plug it into your pc

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it's good

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which actually makes it less portable.. unless you have a laptop

but then it will be kinda slow

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i dont plan on going out with it

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because laptops have bad specs

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i just need to be able to play all night

if im in mood

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audio interface might be a better option in that case

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oh i wanted to buy

1 sec

ill gogole the name

google

Focusrite Scarlett Solo

4th gen

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it's a good audio interface

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but then i saw orange 20 and i liked it right away idk why

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Yea it is good but mtrack duo is way more cheap and also has its driver

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but its like 3 times cheaper

wouldnt quality be so much diff

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honestly i don't know much about audio interface models

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wb the guitar

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the guitars seem nice

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the one thats still there is ibanez

i like it

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the ibanez is pretty damn nice yeah

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but im scared to buy used

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Nope if you feel a difference among them, i would literally send the money to buy you a new focusrite

Rg350 is pretty good

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quality can be variable
but oftentimes you can get gems for a lot cheaper than if you bought new

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But i guess its a bit cheap for the guitar you will need someone who knows abt guitars

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i dont have no one

so i guess its better

if i jsut buy new

if there was something that looked like it

i just really liek the desing

the colors and horns

and yeah i wanted to ask is there much more i need to buy? besides from amp and guitar

i already bought cable

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but it's a bit expensive new

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well if you don't plan to move it much, then probably not

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Its named superstrat

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i dont mean i would buy ibanez new

just msth else

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just amp, cable, guitar

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makes sense

but one thing

we are recommending guitars to you, but you have to get one that will inspire you to play

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idk they all seem cool

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buy the guitar that you want, not what we want you to buy

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i just want the audio

ive never seen ugly guitar

i like em all

so the sound is more important to me

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you wanted an amplifier, right?

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yeah

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more than you wanted an audio interface

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Will you move the guitar alot to play along with friends or just at home

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just home

my friends are not really into music

i want to play for myself

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K buy the audio interface and dm me after, ill set it up on teamviewer or so

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yeah i dont know how to explain, its just that vibe or something

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I just dont want people to spend more money

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if you really want an amplifier you can get a yamaha thr5

but it's a lot more expensive than an audio interface

double the price

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https://www.thomann.de/be/orange_crush_20.htm i planned on buying this one

but i might get audio

interface

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r you using the one you reccomend me?

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oh you can play that one with headphones too if you really want
pretty sure you can't connect it to pc though

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can i like play it for someone im in call in discord for example

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if you unplug your headphones and play into the mic, yes

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I used it recently, currently using boss gt1 processor and also used boss katana 100 the amp and i guess audio interface is the best, but since i have a desktop i needed a processor

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sorry whats the differnce between proccesor and audio interface?

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but audio interface would be a lot more convenient for you

take your time to think about it

don't rush to a decision

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Processor has its own pedals amps preamps in it and it has some more buttons and expression pedals, audio interface needs a pc that has the plugins(tones) you want

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yeah i think it is, but like buying a 50 dollars autio interface kinda scare me

liek wouldnt it brake

in few months

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Why would it break

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you don't have to buy such a cheap one if you don't feel like it will meet your standards

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Mtrack duo isnt cheap btw

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i know price is not always quality

but you`re saying 150 and 50 are almost same

kinda hard to believe for my mind

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it's not the same

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150 for what

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i'd say the scarlett is better

but it's up to you to decide which is better

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i told i wanted to buy Focusrite Scarlett Solo

and you said its same

as the one you reccomend

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Scarlett is better ofc but not a 70 $difference

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may not be worth 70$ more but definitely a decent difference

if i had to choose between em i'd go focusrite

just my 2 cents

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i kinda want to stick around with one amp/audio but change guitars sometimes

so i want at least decent

audio or amp

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If i pay 122€ to an audio interface i would rather get a processor instead

https://www.thomann.de/intl/harley_benton_dnafx_git.htm

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you`re talking abt this things?

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Nahh

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sorry

im hearing abt it for the first time

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Np

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yeah its kinda what i think

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but wouldnt it also improve my mic?

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Also you can take a look at some reviews on mtrack duo, its all up on you but you will be paying 70$ difference for a thing you will not even hear

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i talk alot cuz i like to read books and upload it

so if it would improve my mic

im ready to buy auido

rn

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also i'd say you don't need a 4i4

2i2 is pretty much all you need if you're going focusrite

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Is your mics output xlr

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3rd gen or 4th gen, up to you

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no but i think you can buy like adapter

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sorry, whats that?

4i4 and 2i2

ik im stupid

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different models

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If you have the mic separately its possible to plug your mic in both the interfaces

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there's a lot of focusrite models

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oh i thougt abt 4th gen

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some are cheaper, some are more expensive

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4i4 has 4 inputs

Which you will not need

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tbh i just wanted to ask about guitar but know i have even more things to think abt

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3rd gen has 2

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idk what to pick...

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yeah it's confusing

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i just want something that would sound good and under 600 euros

and that i can play that at home every part of the day i want

without getting my ass whooped by neighbours

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https://www.thomann.de/cz/focusrite_scarlett_2i2_3rd_gen.htm honestly i think this would be enough for you lol

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sorry how much is it

3000 kc

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89 euro i think

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119

its almost same

as 4th gen

like 10 or 20 euro differnce

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80 euro difference

the 4th gen is 200 euro

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it isnt?

sec

Its 200 if yo ubuy it with headphones

but alone its 139

https://www.thomann.de/be/focusrite_scarlett_solo_4th_gen.htm

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oh what the hell it's cheaper there

nevermind uhh

that's the scarlett solo

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yeah thats how it workds

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oh im stupid

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not the 2i2

nah i'm just as stupid

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jsut realised

is it very diff?

from 2i2

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which 2i2

4th gen?

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yeah

the on thats 200 euros

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i'd say pretty similar

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what would you say

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it just has less inputs

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i dont think its really useful

for me

like i would only connect it to pc

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well if all you're doing is connecting to your pc and playing pretty casually, you can just get a solo

it's got all you need

hell, 3rd gen solo could be fine too

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wdym cassualy?

i mean is it only for begginers?

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no that's not what i mean

i mean that it's not for like professional stuff lol

like you're not recording anything professionally, right?

just playing for fun and stuff

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yeah just play for myself and maybe friends

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it's all you need

scarlett solo, pick whichever gen you want

you'll be good

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but would solo be better or 3rd gen

idm paying 20 more

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2i2 has more features

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kinda sad to thew orange out of basket

i thought id buy it

for few days

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There are some inaccurate things stated here, im going to try to be a bit more precise.
In terms of guitars the pacifica 112v is good.
Regarding digital vs analog there are some major differences.
If you have an amp, you plug your guitar in and are ready to play without the need for any other equipment.
If you want to play digitally, you need a pc, an interface and speakers. That being said you get the advantage of having more tonal possibilities.
If you go digitally, i wouldnt buy a focusrite. Up to the 3rd gen their headroom isnt great and theyre a bit overpriced because of their hype. Id suggest the umc202hd or umc204hd. What imo is often not talked enough about is the need for speakers/headphones. For headphones its not ideal to go under 100 bucks and for speakers more like 300. Thats a substantial cost not being talked about.
My advice would be to get a katana. Its a modeling amp, so has lots of tonal options and you can also use it as an interface to access the boss tone studio. Imo thats a better Allrounder and starter to see what you like @scenic latch

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amplifiers are loud

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i think you know more about this than i do

i'll leave it up to you

i don't want to give them bad advice

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oh yeah

i forgot to say

i dont ahve speakers

only headphones

that was the reason i wanted amp

so much

and not audio

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headphones are just small speakers

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yeah but its different

i planned on using them only when its late

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a lot of amps you can't connect to your pc i'm p sure

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and katana is kinda of my budget

100 more than orange

but ik its great i saw allot of reviews

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@reef musk is an orange crush 20 able to connect to pc?

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but i just need to connect them to headphones

not pc

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yea you can connect the orange crush to headphones

but you can't play for any discord friends sadly

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oh tis no big deal i stil lcan show it off to irl friends

but cant i just place my mic near the amp?

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yea you can

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my mic is rlly good

so i think it would work fine

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would work lol

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Just the orange crush 20 is not lol

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yea not many effects

unless you want pedals

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wdym?

how is that related to mic

im sorry im bit stupid

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it's pretty much just a barebones amp

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Its a super cheap amp with an 8“ speaker

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no effects

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it's a good amp but it has no effects

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so you would reccomnd spending a bit more for katana?

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bedroom practice, the size of the amp doesn't matter much

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Its not good period

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why not

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8“ speaker

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it's literally bedroom practice

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And

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guys chill

would katana 50 do?

i cant really go higher

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Thats a budget of 500€. I dont see how a katana (230€ on thomann) doesnt fit in there

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katana 50
very versatile
very good amp

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yeah yeah o kinda messed the budget in my head

my bad

i gues ill buy katana 50

and pacifika

112

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Great

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have fun

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You might also look for both used and save some bucks

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iddk i had a really bad

expirience

with it

lost 400$

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try looking if thomann has some B-stock katana 50

you can return it and get a full refund if it's bad

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b stock is like used?

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I mean with guitars its pretty much like this. You go to someone, play it and if you like it, you buy it

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it's returned product, so yea sorta

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yeah but im complete newbie

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Doesnt really matter

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i couldnt tell

if its not good

and i got fcked up in thing i really do know well

more than guitars

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most beginners won't be able to tell if a piece of gear is actually good or not

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so i dont trust myself anymore

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But the same applies to new gear

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but the chance is way lower

that it would be defective

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Defective=good

Thats two entirely different things

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nah not really

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guys dont make me scared to buy even brand new

pls

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nah don't worry yamaha has good qc

so you don't have to be worried

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is there smth else like yamacha

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i'd be more worried if it was something like harley benton

they're all over the place

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yeah

and theyre 2 times cheaper

than the cheap ones

so idk what kind of quality they even got

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well their bad qc applies to even their expensive models so

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Guitars are so simple in terms of electronics…there really isnt much to worry about. Especially because beginner gear usually isnt used for long. People either quit or upgrade

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yea

so don't get too worried

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yeah i thought about using it for a bit

and then going higher

in terms of gear

its just that we get exams alot and i dont have time for part time

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yea that makes sense

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so when i would have money i want to upgrade guitar

but at the same time i want good amp now

so i wont change it later

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the katana will last you a long time

you should be alright this way

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also

do you think white guitar would be pain in ass

to look after?

and which one you got rn

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i don't think it matters

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same as you

black pacifica 112

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oh rlly

and for how much time

are you suing it

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honestly idk lol

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I also have a pac112v at home

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good guitar, yea?

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maybe ill try to look for it at facebook

but itsd kinda unpopular here

havent seen any good stores

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thomann should have them

are they out of stock?

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awmn

damn*

7-9 weeks?

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damn

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Might just be one color

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yeah the white one

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…Or just buy used

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is in 1 week

but i wanted this oe

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look for used

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idk how to

i mean on this site

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reverb

reverb.com

used guitar website

you can also look on ebay

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do they operate in belgium?

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probably some people will list from belgium

it works like an ebay for guitar gear basically

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most of them on verb

are more expensive

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oh

https://www.thomann.de/cz/yamaha_pacifica_120h_yns_b_stock.htm

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https://reverb.com/en-be/item/72948233-yamaha-pacifica-112v wb this

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b stock 120h

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looks good

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Ebay and revery are international, i cant tell you about your local used websites

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i think ill stick to buying everything on 1 site

my bank is pain in ass

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it's a B-stock 120

they're p similar to a 112

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but whats the differnce

they`re same price

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it's a B-stock guitar that's why they're the same

usually a new 120 is a bit more than that

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https://www.thomann.de/be/yamaha_pacifica_112j_bl.htm https://www.thomann.de/be/yamaha_pacifica_112vmx_yns_rl.htm

why are they

diff prices

colour?

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112J uses different pick ups

112V uses alnico i'm p sure

112J has ceramic

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that 50 euros diff would really do for me

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J and v are different models. Ceramic/alnice pickups and the v has a splittable bridge humbucker

J is still worth it tho

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since i already spent 30 on cables

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yea the J is still pretty damn worth it

does the J have the color you want?

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ill buy white one

they got it

soon

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wait

but it doesnt make sense

j is cheaper

than v

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ye

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oh but it sounded like j is more expensive but worth it

my bad

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no worries

the 112J has the color you want too btw

https://www.thomann.de/cz/yamaha_pacifica_112j_yns.htm

just different pickguard

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sec ill chack the sounds

on both of them

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sure

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btw thanks

for helping me

for almost an hour now

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i have nothing better to do anyways lol

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i think i would get

the v one

sound is just so much better for me

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yea ceramic is a bit harsher

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which one yo ugot?

v right

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actually i have the J since i prefer the harsher sound

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Eh i have to disagree

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yeah?

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The differences are negligible

Also the thomann samples dont mean shit

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i can hear the difference lol

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idk maybe the guy used diff amp setting

on purpose

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Irl?

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yea

friend has the V

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ok

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so do you reccomend j over v?

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get whichever you'd like lol

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i like v a bit more but if i go with j i would be able to atleat not starve

jk

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Dont focus on pickups

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maybe ill guy some other things for guitar

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It doesnt matter

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like capo

if i save 50

on j

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don't focus on them all that much yeah

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nice accessory to have

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i heard that you cant play

some songs

without it

but i think its bs

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some songs actually do use capo
but there's probably a way to play that song without a capo too

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btw

does cable go with guitar

or do i buy it myself

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you buy it

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Depends pretty much on what youre playing. Fun fact, ive never really used a capo in my entire life

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oh i almost forgot about picks

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buy a bunch of picks, different thicknesses

see which is comfortable

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do you think 10 euro ones would be good?

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Dunlop variety pack

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k

https://www.thomann.de/gb/dunlop_electric_pick_variety_pack.htm

this ones ya?

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yeah the variety pack is nice

[thick solstice]

sure

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is this cable also good?

or is it to much

for begginer

its 30 euro

[thick solstice]

it probably doesn't matter

[brazen dew]

Whats a starcaster

[thick solstice]

i use the cheapest one on thomann

[thick solstice]

it's just a strat

[reef musk]

No absolutely not

Its an entirely different shape

[thick solstice]

oh it is?

my bad

[scenic latch]

umm i kinda forgot

[thick solstice]

instrument cable

[scenic latch]

i think 3m

is enough?

i only want to play it at home

[thick solstice]

absolutely

[reef musk]

Do you intend to play while roaming your house?

[thick solstice]

3m is plenty

[thick solstice]

why would you do that tho

[reef musk]

I have absolutely no clue

[scenic latch]

not rlly my house got like really long stairs so i wont be able to do it even with 10 m

or 20

so 3 is fine

[reef musk]

(Its was a Joke)

[scenic latch]

i know

but still

i saw a video abt it

so i thought maybe hes serious

[thick solstice]

just get a 3m cable

it's all you need

[scenic latch]

wait

why does one j cost 249

the onbe i sent

and others are 219

[reef musk]

Color

[scenic latch]

oh thats it?

[brazen dew]

Can someone help me

[scenic latch]

color makes 30 dollar diff interesting

[scenic latch]

i cant rlly im sorry

[brazen dew]

https://discord.com/channels/178184607169118208/1193588487635603637

[thick solstice]

which one

[scenic latch]

https://www.thomann.de/be/yamaha_pacifica_112j_yns.htm?shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiYmUiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6MiwibGFuZ3VhZ2UiOjJ9&reload=1

look

https://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_pacifica_112j_bl.htm

[thick solstice]

they're the same price in my country

that's weird

[reef musk]

Thats pounds and euros

Different currencies 🤦‍♂️

[scenic latch]

damn im so blind

[thick solstice]

i didn't notice either honestly

[scenic latch]

i gues i clicked on someone else link

who use puonds

i think thats all

i thought it would be unedr 600 or sum

im glad it isnt

[thick solstice]

i'd say that's all yeah

[timid bison]

I have stated that he could buy an eris 3.5 with the interface and also the overpriced tag of the focusrite, katana is going about twice as much of his budget, and in my opinion, buying a processor with a speaker would be a better option instead of spending yhat much of money on a katana. And if he really wants a headphone, as i didnt recommend one considering the fact that he was going to buy an amp, i can recommend behringer bh470, if you want an in ear one, can take a look at kz's products

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@thick solstice@reef muskthx to you guys i can send feedback once i get it if you want

@timid bisonand thx to you too

[thick solstice]

sure go ahead

[scenic latch]

sorry for pinging

[thick solstice]

no worries

[scenic latch]

that wont be that fast

im still waiting for my paycheck

its at 28

[thick solstice]

i'll be waiting for you then

[scenic latch]

yeah thx

[thick solstice]

till next time

[scenic latch]

idk what i`d be doing

without your help

cuz im stupid on my own

thx again

[thick solstice]

nah i was wrong a couple of times too

i think guegue knows better

[scenic latch]

yeah he sounds like he got expirience

but you still helped with guitar

he helped more with amp

but pacifika 112 was your idea

[scenic latch]

yo i also forgot @thick solstice

do i have to buy mini jack to jack adapter

if i want to use amp with headphones

[thick solstice]

i think so

wait no

you can just connect it

doesn't need an adapter i'm pretty sure

it's a 1/4" jack

so if your headphones don't fit you might need an adapter