#Most overrated band

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steep hill
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Im open

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It feels like 2010 dubstep synth

warped flicker
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Polyphia's early stuff is okay but the stuff off of Remember That You Will Die fucks

warped flicker
obtuse scarab
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That is so not true that literally only because of the whole stranger things shit šŸ’€

steep hill
sick rain
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Van Halen is overrated as HEEELLLLLL

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No good songs

royal loom
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i mean,their playing god is good,but ā€œG.O.A.Tā€ is just random notes put together.Their technical skill is godlike,but in musicality,its just bad.It can be only me though,because for the same reason,i dont like ā€œEruptionā€ by eddie van halen.Skilled,but not good

patent river
boreal valley
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Radiohead

median surge
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Sublime but theyā€˜re still one of my favorites

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And silverchair a little bit

gritty stirrup
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i agree silverchair is overrated asf

median surge
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Oka

prisma bramble
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Blink 182

median surge
median surge
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Justin chancellor is underrated

boreal valley
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No actually

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Blink 182 is so overrated that it requires a whole other word that hasn't even been invented yet

boreal valley
late light
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Green day

random thorn
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dont confuse overrated with overplayed

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I am obviously biased, but man, they have so many good albums

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DSOTM, WYWH, The Wall, Animals, Meddle, etc

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if DSOTM isn't a perfect album, idk what is

nimble lion
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They have a lot of really impressive music, but it's not necessarily as fun to listen to

random thorn
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guess we have different taste then

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have you watched the movie the wall?

nimble lion
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Yeah

random thorn
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I watched it recently

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changed my whole idea of it

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crazy experience

nimble lion
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I respect Pink Floyd fans, I'm just not one of them lol

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And nah, I haven't seen it yet

random thorn
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if you ever wanna check it out, it's free on youtube. Unfortunately not the best quality, but it is WILD

nimble lion
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I've seen the music video for the song

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There's a 4K version

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I do love that song

random thorn
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I had no idea what the bricks in the wall meant until I watched the movie

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each brick is like something contributing to Pink's insanity, the main character in the movie/album

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Like his dad dying in the war, or him sabotaging his relationship

nimble lion
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Oh wow, that actually sounds pretty interesting

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I'll have to check it out sometime

random thorn
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and eventually he just gets so crazy, he doesnt care anymore, so in the song "In The Flesh" he basically just wishes for everyone to die because he doesnt care anymore

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it's a really odd movie, I would not have been able to figure it out if it wasn't for my dad explaining some parts

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but once I understood, especially towards the end, wooow.

nimble lion
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Oh cool, I had heard of the movie, but I only had vague descriptions of the plot lol

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This makes a lot more sense

random thorn
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movie definitely helps with context. I remember listening to the album before and wondering why there is "In The Flesh?" and "In The Flesh"

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his father was killed in the war, and later on in the movie, after a wall has been placed around him, he basically turns into the same people that killed his father, because of how crazy he's gotten

nimble lion
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Oh interesting

random thorn
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the movie doesnt explain any of that though, it was really confusing to me until my dad explained it. There's really no dialogue, and there are a lot of flashbacks

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so you keep seeing him as a kid and as an adult, back and forth

nimble lion
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Oh, yeah, that would be weird. Super "artsy" movies like that aren't normally my thing, I need the story spoon-fed to me lol. Brick in the Wall sounds like it's cool tho

random thorn
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definitely odd but also unique, if I ever did drugs I would probably watch that movie haha

nimble lion
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I feel like that's the mentality of Pink Floyd fans /j

random thorn
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that movie really changed my perspective on some stuff. Also made me question how someone could come up with those songs and that movie at such a young age

nimble lion
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Pink Floyd were definitely artists

random thorn
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the album came first, I wonder how long Roger Waters was holding in his concept of the movie and wanting to get it done before finally doing it

nimble lion
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Not my thing, but objectively they were good

random thorn
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because iirc, he came up with the story/movie idea first

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and then wrote the album based on that

nimble lion
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Oh cool, I wonder if the album was what funded the movie

random thorn
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maybe, I don't think it had a big budget

nimble lion
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I see

random thorn
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12 million in 1982, so about 39 million today

nimble lion
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Oh yeah, that's a lot for movies nowadays

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I'm sure Roger Waters pitched to a bigger movie studio and they did all the funding and stuff, but still

random thorn
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yeah probably something like that, by that point Pink Floyd was already a pretty big band, DSOTM came out before The Wall

nimble lion
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Oh, I guess I didn't realize that

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I always thought that was the album that made them big

random thorn
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idk exactly what made them big, I'm sure they were already popular before DSOTM, Meddle came out a couple years before DSOTM and they did some stuff before that too

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but IDK how popular yet

wicked remnant
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I might die but RHCP pretty much overrated

tawdry ridge
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@lethal bridge

lethal bridge
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not entirely wrong

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@tawdry ridge vai_urine

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I think their mainstream stuff is overrated tbh

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but the classic RHCP stuff is underrated

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Blood Sugar Sex Magik is one of the best albums of the 90s no doubt

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whether you're a fan of the band or not

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such a unique sound and incredible musicianship, they really found what made them stand out as a band and honed in on it perfectly

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it's a masterpiece

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but their new stuff is kinda wack lmao

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the 80s stuff has some hidden gems

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it's really fun but I do see that it's a lot more niche

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and the post 2000 era stuff is kinda overrated sometimes yeah

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I see a lot of die hard RHCP fanboys fawn over mid songs vai_urine

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even the deep cuts off BSSM blow their newer hits out of the water

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they went from a really cool punk-funk fusion band to just another pop rock band

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@wicked remnant

meager fractal
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nirvana or ac dc

agile heron
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queen

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and nirvana, i like their stuff a lot but they're not as good as people saying

boreal valley
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Doesn't overrated mean they have to be kinda crap?

tawdry ridge
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even if it did, that's not gonna stop 12yos from dropping their piss-warm takes about the biggest bands of the 20th century

gritty stirrup
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Pearl jam is so overrated

simple lotus
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Megadeth, Slayer, All Black Metal Bands and .... U2

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But tbh, I found that bands with most toxic fandoms in rock music history are Nirvana and The Beatles

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Say anything bad about Kurt Cobain, and Nirvana Fanboys will burn you with fire

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And in case of The Beatles fandom.... They really hate Oasis, always must to say that "The Beatles are better than The Rolling Stones" and they fight against Pink Floyd fandom over .... Again .... What band is better

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I like The Beatles music, but they fandom makes me sick

wooden mica
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I gotta be honest. I think it’s definitely got to be one of the big four. Everyone says slayer, and I think they’re completely wrong. I think maybe Metallica, or maybe Megadeth. Overrated in music and not influence that is. I love Metallica, but their only good stuff is their early stuff, and Megadeth has some good stuff but most of it is mid.

warped flicker
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Dave's voice only works for like, Skin O' My Teeth

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And even then Johnny would prob do it better

scenic dawn
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Yea for sure

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Damn didn’t realize you said that in 2022

tawdry jacinth
tawdry jacinth
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Ok I’m one of the ogs tuning back in. What’s the consensus pf the most overrated band

naive robin
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AC/DC, Thunderstruck in particular. Everyone knows the opening part of it and whenever you have a guitar they ask you to play that like it’s special or something.

tawdry ridge
vital python
scenic dawn
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I like don’t stop me now more

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Much better song

crisp helm
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Cap

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Cap

boreal valley
copper whale
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Nahh ain't no way

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You rarely even hear about KISS they're underrated 😭

tawdry ridge
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i typed it and you can't make me untype it!!!!

calm crystal
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Nirvana imo 🫣 (I just don’t like them)

sudden root
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Polyphia. Talented individuals for sure, but music lives in the space between notes. Sounds like further amplified elevator music.

lunar pagoda
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Tool

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Maybe Beatles because they are terrible but to their credit they were revolutionary

lunar pagoda
umbral pelican
umbral pelican
lunar pagoda
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Yes

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That’s why I said they deserve the credit

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They innovated

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But made bad music

umbral pelican
lunar pagoda
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Their entire style and sound is horrid

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One of the only bands I actually hate the sound of

warm zephyr
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Mayhem. I like most of their albums. but most of them are just live albums with the same songs. not to mention the guitarist used a photo of a dead body as an album cover. and they had a bass player who burned down churches, and there are better black metal bands in general. its a good starter to the black metal genre. but as you dig further down, you'll be able to find way better bands like bathory and venom.

sudden root
# lunar pagoda One of the only bands I actually hate the sound of

Compared to who? I'm not ragging on you, just curious.
It's interesting since it's mainly younger people (25 and younger) who don't like the beatles, so I'm just curious what your frame of reference is.
I partly agree... not all their songs are the cream of the crop, but they have some bangers IMO - for their time period.

lunar pagoda
north dock
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Nirvana šŸ’€

vast flax
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Slipknot

odd vine
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personally i love nirvana

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except their incesticide album, most overrated is by far pearl jam to me

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actually no scratch that

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lynrd skynrd

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ew

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only one good riff

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and one over played country song

gritty stirrup
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ngl tool

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after their first album they suck

warped flicker
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after their first album they suck

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Ftfy

full thorn
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AC/DC

gritty stirrup
fringe coral
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The Offspring

umbral pelican
vast meadow
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Nirvana.

sudden root
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ā˜ļø Yes, agree 100%
They were not terrible by any means, but highly overrated IMO.

upper osprey
strong depot
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Ghost

peak gull
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AC/DC sounds like a rat on crack

sudden root
full thorn
warped flicker
umbral pelican
sudden root
warped flicker
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They sound like modern day kiss

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Who are, with the exception of a couple songs, also overrated

sudden root
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Ok, but what does "overrated" mean? By what metrics is "overrated" measured?
The song structure, the lyrics, the song content?

warped flicker
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Their music sounds copy/paste

sudden root
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From who?

warped flicker
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Both really

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Moreso Kiss

sudden root
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From Kiss and Kiss?

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I'm not ragging on you, just curious why you think so.

restive widget
warped flicker
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What I mean by copy/paste is that it sounds like they did one thing and haven't really gone past that one thing

restive widget
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Also the fictional band lore thing I don’t get

warped flicker
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They're copy/pasting from themselves

restive widget
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Interesting

sudden root
sudden root
warped flicker
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Not the good ones. Obviously there's gonna be a bit of a "signature sound" that comes through no matter what because that's that particular player's sound, but if your new album sounds like it's inspiration was your last album I feel like something's gone a bit wrong

peak gull
peak gull
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Dont see how the beatles are overrated though

peak gull
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you either hate a lot of music today

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or you hate things like their vocal style

warped flicker
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And a lot of people who do tend to take pride in the fact that they do

sudden root
# warped flicker Not the good ones. Obviously there's gonna be a bit of a "signature sound" that ...

I hear what you're saying. However, if you listen to the discography of a lot of popular bands now or in the past, you'll see that this copy and pasting does apply to more bands than you think.

A lot of Iron Maiden sounds similar after a while, so does AC/DC, Motorhead, Dream Theatre, Megadeth, etc. And I would consider all of them good ones and love them for it, because they created the inspiration for a lot of stuff that came after.
Kiss also inspired tons of great bands, for instance.

Country music sounds exactly the same as well, yet it's still a thriving genre.

Any kind of club music and hip hop now sounds pretty interchangeable, yet people still flock to clubs and concerts to hear the same beats over and over again.

Even the Ramones sounded very similar in all their songs - yet they inspired thousands of players and bands as well...

Bad Religion, Bon Jovi (Living on a Prayer and Have a nice day are pretty much identical)

Amon Amarth, and finally ZZ Top - same three guys were playing the same chords for 40 years.

As for Ghost. I get you. But the way I think of it is that the first album was meant to sound like an early 70s heavy metal album, the next two sound like mid-late 70s metal/rock records, the two after that sound like 80s records. Just like most 70s rock bands changed their sound for the 80s (think Queen, Yes, Genesis etc.), so have Ghost along their own fictional arc.

warped flicker
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Honestly I've never liked AC/DC, ZZ Top, or Bon Jovi for exactly that reason

peak gull
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Ramones isn't that much of a good band

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I listen to one of their songs

warped flicker
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Can't comment on Ramones

peak gull
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AC/DC

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is for sure

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but hey

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that's due to vocal style more than anything

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Also I heavily agree that club music

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and hiphop is interchangeable

sudden root
peak gull
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Good can be objective and subjective

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in the context of music

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subjective

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I dont think they're a good band

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because of vocal quality

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but that's supposed to be the engineers job

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to mix and master things properly

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Ramones dont sound like they have their vocals mixed and mastered properly

sudden root
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I would totally agree with you on the vocals.
The mixing of vocals is a lot easier today than at that time, and people preferred a much more raw and rather unprocessed sound - particularly in that genre.

peak gull
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Even back then you still had

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Reverb

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Vocal layering

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you've always had those kinds of things

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you aint gonna sound like T pain

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Raw is great

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I just like Raw when it sounds like its on a studio recording

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and not a snowball microphone

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for working at home

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But that's again the engineers fault

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they're supposed to handle those kinds of things

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Still a great rock band

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who makes good music

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cant get one of their songs out of my head

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but there's some factors onto considering it to be good

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As far as hiphop

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Im actually surprised you noticed it

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glad you pointed it out even

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but that's the problem with their genre

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Theme: Drugs Sex Money Murder

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Instruments: Whatever we like to (Sample) With 808 Drums Snares and Kicks behind the 808s

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Easy to find hiphop songs outside of this theme

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harder to find songs outside of the theme that's actually considered to be good

sudden root
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Hahahahha. Yep. Well-said. I still remember the old days R&B, Hip Hop, when there was still a noticeable difference and at times actually good music behind it all. Warren G, Nate Dog, Run DMC, Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, etc. They pretty much all had something to say and their music was unique.

Now, as you said, it's all:
Yo, look at me, got the money, got the honeys, got my gun, so you betta run....

peak gull
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None of it is unique today

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kinda makes me upset

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I can honestly agree it was even harder to make music like that back then

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now its easy

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almost too easy

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I can pop open Fl Studio and make that kind've music today if i want to

sudden root
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Yep. There's a few independents here and there with some good songs, but nothing like back in the days.
That's exactly the problem. The bars for entry (pretty much in all genres) have been lowered so much that there's too much crap flooding the market and preventing the few good things to come through.

peak gull
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Overall though still good genres in their respective rights

sudden root
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Yeah, nothing against them per se.

peak gull
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I listen to a few country songs so

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hey

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Country music is on the very end

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of my favorite genres

peak gull
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Kinda dont like metal

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I dont even like shredding

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i like short Bursts of it

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you go more than 7-8 seconds

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you're going too far

sudden root
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To each their own, right? I tend to feel the exact same about bands like Polyphia which just sounds like computer-generated elevator prog to me.
Amazing ability, but - at least for me - the music is lacking something essential. Can stomach one song at a time, but after that it loses its lustre.

peak gull
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is heavily agreed upon

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Polyphia to be is garbage

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you can pick a million notes

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and be proper

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you can have proper technique all you like

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not that its a bad thing

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but im not gonna put that over making use with the simple things

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Knowing how to play guitar and knowing how to play music is 2 different things as they say

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It sounds like you were just trying to say you put out a song

sudden root
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Absolutely! I've said it before and I'll say it every time... B.B King, and Gilmore, for example can say a LOT more with ONE note than the kid from Polyphia with 1000 notes.

peak gull
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exactly

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I guess it depends on goals though

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Feel vs technique

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i just choose not to put the vs concerning myself

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I might turn to hybrid picking

sudden root
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Yeah, that's the vibe I get from the kid as well. Rich kid who wants to show off what he can do simply to feed the already inflated ego.
Just my opinion, just the vibe I get from him.
Great technique for sure, but he's just doing the technique pyrotechnics for the sake of doing it.
If you compare it to EVH 's Eruption, for instance, which absolutely floored people back in the days, Eddie had great phrasing and let certain notes breathe or accentuated the right notes at the right time because he truly felt it at that moment, and it shows... There's a certain dynamic in that solo, that's utterly lacking in Polyphia's stuff.

peak gull
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i dont think anyone who's been playing guitar for at least 2 years

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actually likes Polyphia

sudden root
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Hahahah. TouchƩ

warped flicker
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As someone who's been playing for 11, I enjoy their music

sudden root
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Not here to hate on them (too much) - they do have their place for some, and I think it's great that they have inspired more people recently to pick up the guitar, which is always a good thing; but I also hope that after the initial "wow-effect" has worn off and people learn more about guitar music, that they'll find much better guitar music.

warped flicker
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I think it's awesome seeing people take the instrument to the limit of what it can do, and they have some katchy songs

lunar pagoda
peak gull
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and added advanced towards it

lunar pagoda
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Beatles re invented how music was made

peak gull
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but you still called them innovative

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which a lot of people borrowed from

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im just confused

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you agree that they're innovative

lunar pagoda
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Yes

peak gull
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you also agree that a lot of music

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today borrows from it

lunar pagoda
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But they make bad music

peak gull
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exactly

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so

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most music is bad today

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right

lunar pagoda
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No

peak gull
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and that's

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the part im confused about

lunar pagoda
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They innovated how songs were made

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But they made bad songs

peak gull
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what are

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we even calling bad

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not only that

lunar pagoda
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Any song they made

peak gull
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but again that's confusing

sudden root
# warped flicker I think it's awesome seeing people take the instrument to the limit of what it c...

That style of music has been around for a very long time, but they just use an arpeggiator to make the music by computer and then learn to play it.

Someone who was one of the pioneers of that style of music (before it was called "Math Rock") was Michael Hedges. His Album Aerial Boundaries put it more in the mainstream. Ability-wise, he was at least on the same level, but he had something they are missing....

peak gull
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if they innovated

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how a lot of music is today

lunar pagoda
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Yeah

peak gull
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then how is that music

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not also bad

lunar pagoda
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Not how it is

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How it’s made

peak gull
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well

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what are they doing differently

lunar pagoda
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They are bad musicians

peak gull
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you aren't making sense here

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I get you saying they're bad

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I dont get what you're saying is bad

lunar pagoda
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Cus they are bad musicians

peak gull
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This is a circle

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are they bad because they're bad

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?

lunar pagoda
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No

peak gull
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then what are you calling bad

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exactly

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what about their music

lunar pagoda
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They innovated how music was made but they are atrocious musicians

peak gull
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again

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i get that you're saying they're bad

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i dont GET

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what you're CALLING bad

warped flicker
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Or generally disliking it

peak gull
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Heavily agreed upon

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except he hasn't stated what he's calling bad

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so its a very general statement to make

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I cant specify what's different that makes the predecessor bad in comparsion

warped flicker
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Maybe they just don't like the music, and so it sounds bad to them

peak gull
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because there's nothing in specific

lunar pagoda
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Several times

peak gull
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Musicians is still general

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Musician doesn't even specify what genre of music

lunar pagoda
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Bro

peak gull
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that's why im confused

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because you again have no specified what you mean

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the things that i called bad i specified

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I dont like certain things because (vocal style)

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I even asked you if you didn't like them because of vocal styles

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anything specific to differentiate

lunar pagoda
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I specified

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All of them are bad musicians

peak gull
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again

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that's not specific

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If I say you're bad at video games

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in not specifiying what makes you bad

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I didn't specify things like aim

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All I said what that you're bad which is general because it can refer to numerous categories someone can be bad at

lunar pagoda
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Bad at playing their instruments

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It’s really that simple

peak gull
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You just reversed it to the very definition of a musician

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really you just said the same thing

lunar pagoda
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Your going in circles even tho I already explained

peak gull
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Define a Musician

lunar pagoda
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Someone who plays an instrument

peak gull
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if I see this as you saying bad at being a musician

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because it is the exact same thing

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one of a the word of the definition

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and one with the definition itself

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would you agree?

lunar pagoda
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Holy shit bro

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Stop going in circles I already explained 15 times

peak gull
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no no

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answer the question

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i just asked you

sudden root
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Have to interject here. Let's put it this way... just because someone knows some vocabulary in a language doesn't make them a good speaker of that language, right?

peak gull
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agreed

sudden root
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That's how I see Polyphia. Just my opinion, but they have the vocabulary, but that doesn't make them eloquent speakers.

peak gull
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I agree

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I think its skill not music

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You can listen to a song and know where its going

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you might see that as a bad thing but also without it

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its just confusing

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there has to be a line between knowing where music is going and knowing when to drop something unexpectedly good in a solo or something

sudden root
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Yes... that's called phrasing.

peak gull
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bingo

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only

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You can actually state what's bad with a song

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I dont think Rat can

sudden root
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Well, to be fair, I have 30+ years experience with music. šŸ˜„

peak gull
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you ever fingerpick

sudden root
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I play Flamenco, so yes... definitely

peak gull
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How do you ever palm mute

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while still playing

sudden root
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It's possible, you need to learn to control your fingers (picking hand) independently. A lot of times in Flamenco, you'll use a finger to mute the string after picking it.
Have to be honest and say that when playing flamenco style or other fingerpickign styles, I personally don't do much muting with the palm, but it's certainly possible. Because you're developing more control over that hand (and more independent control of fingers), so you've got more to use than just the meat of your palm

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Mark Knopfler actually does some very interesting muting (palm and fingers) in his playing.

peak gull
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it has to be possible

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that's what I figured

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thank you

sudden root
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No worries!
If you're into that style, I'd suggest start with finger independence exercises. So play the old: PIMA (Pulgar = Thumb), Index, Middle (medio), and (anular) patterns.
Thumb controls top three strings, and the fingers underneath are kind of staggered and control the strings 3, 2, 1.

Play your thumb first on the 6th string, then IMA, then the thumb on the 5th, followed by IMA, then the 4th, IMA, and back up.

Do that until it feels natural and fluent.

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Key thing is to not lift your fingers off the string too much and keep it smooth and concise. Sounds easy, but takes a bit to get it down.

peak gull
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Im home rn

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with my guitar in hand

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so ill try rn

sudden root
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You can then experiment with tilting your right wrist a bit to mute the thumb strokes. It'll get more difficult from about string 4, so the 3rd, 2nd and 1st are usually not palm-muted during fingerpicking.

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The other muting is done - if needed - by the fingers of the fretting hand.

peak gull
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Works for me

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good exercise

sudden root
peak gull
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thank you again

sudden root
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No worries!

obtuse scarab
obtuse scarab
versed sorrel
#

90% of queen’s catalogue is criminally underrated

#

nobody talks about them outside of their hits

civic pivot
#

Linkin park- no matter how much people love them, their riffs are kinda bland imo

umbral pelican
hidden river
fluid peak
#

I think you need to listen to the entirety of hybrid theory and meteora, there are tons of good songs that people don’t know unless they’re a fan because they arnt in the end or numb

thorn star
#

Deftones

upper osprey
gritty stirrup
austere jewel
obtuse scarab
#

no matter how little appreciated daughtry is or has ever been

#

it's still an undeserved amount

warped flicker
#

Who?

gritty stirrup
#

never even heard of these guys how can they be overrated

spiral flower
#

probably metallica, i love their music and theyre one of my favorites, but there are bands that such hit so much better

gritty stirrup
torpid seal
#

I'm seeing a lot of emo hate wth we do?????
Anyways fucking limp bizkit mid as fuck

#

Oh and pantera

torpid seal
warped flicker
#

Dime's tone sucked

torpid seal
#

THANK YOU HES SO OVERATED

scenic dawn
#

I don’t think Metallica is overated but everyone can have there opinions

candid quiver
#

slipknot

quasi lotus
steel stump
#

šŸ’€

wintry rivet
#

david bowie's most songs are ass

#

some are good but his albums are just some weird songs with corny lirycs and weird sounds

candid quiver
celest marten
#

mayhem

slow vine
#

Buddy is currently listening to drake

#

And now lil uzi vert, bro just listens to poop.

#

Lorna shore fucking sucks and is overrated

tawny idol
#

listen i love fall out boy, but fall out boy

warped flicker
lofty summit
#

ACDC ngl

lunar pagoda
#

They are good

#

But people act like they are insane

slow vine
#

And literally every band ever has people that say they are the best band ever

lunar pagoda
#

Ain’t nobody every said nickelback is the best band ever

#

And if they did

#

It was sarcasm

slow vine
#

I’ve heard a lot of people talk about nickelback that way

lethal bridge
#

Nickelback is good

#

honestly

#

the hate is too much

agile thorn
#

Slipknot is pretty damn overrated

#

For a band that writes this basically, there's absolutely no reason there should be 9 fucking members

#

System of a down is so much better and unique

agile thorn
#

Although far beyond driven makes me wanna hurt someone and that's awesome

agile thorn
lunar pagoda
agile thorn
#

Bring me the horizon is pretty damn overrated

#

Slayer too

torpid seal
agile thorn
#

Pantera helped redefine and influence metal in a shit ton of ways with their sound and attitude in the 90's. They have a number of undeniable classics

torpid seal
#

Wasn't*

agile thorn
#

But most of their catalogue is not very good

torpid seal
#

I mean yea every band has their classics

agile thorn
#

Yeah but pantera has metal classics

#

Not just band classics

torpid seal
#

Ehhhhhh

agile thorn
#

Domination studio version sounds like utter ass

#

Far beyond driven is their best album

#

A lot of weird shit on that album

warped flicker
#

Enough for me to just throw it out and not bother selling it

warped flicker
#

Apart from Dime's tone, 90% of the riffs are meh

agile thorn
#

Wdyt of ajfa then?

warped flicker
# agile thorn Wdyt of ajfa then?

Dogshit mixing, okay guitar tone, some of the songs are a bit too long, but it's a better album than Far Beyond Driven by a longshot

agile thorn
#

I mean yeah it has a dogshit mix but i can't help but love the rawness and the thickness of the guitar tone.

#

Yeah songs like harvester of sorrow and eye of the beholder are just to show off the tone more than anything

slow vine
slow vine
# torpid seal Ehhhhhh

There’s no ehh. Whether you like Pantera or not they objectively have a shit ton of timeless metal classics

agile thorn
slow vine
agile thorn
#

Controversial opinion

#

I mean ik this is called overrated bands

#

Wait nvm

#

U said live

#

Idk how i didn't read that

warped flicker
#

It's all midrange and treble

agile thorn
# warped flicker It's all midrange and treble

Opposite of midrange actually. They jacked up the bass by 10, put mids at pretty much 0 and put treble high as well. Giving you a really heavy ass tone even tho they're playing in standard tuning

#

Playing bass against this guitar tone would make pretty much no difference in sound. If anything, it would sound worse

#

Not defending the exclusion of bass, just that the guitar tone they dialed makes recording bass unnecessary

#

I mean just listen to the bridge section in blackened

warped flicker
#

What sort of copium are you huffing

#

Like genuinely

#

No kind of guitar dialing can make recording bass unnecessary lmao

high fossil
#

disturbed, metallica, green day

umbral pelican
restive widget
#

I’ve listened to the album with the bass turned up

#

Blackened with bass turned up makes the guitars sound more powerful

#

The guitar tone is already pretty heavy but without the bass it just loses that edge in the mix

lusty pagoda
#

maroon 5

#

they're so mid

lusty pagoda
high fossil
warped flicker
#

I feel like they get points for releasing 3 whole albums just to make a pun, but that's just me

lofty summit
#

wakt

#

what?

lusty pagoda
high fossil
#

disturbed is shit tho

lusty pagoda
#

yeah i agree

warped flicker
# lofty summit what?

”uno!, ”dos!, ”tré! was essentially a 3-album run to make a pun off of their drummer Tré Cool's name iirc

lofty summit
#

there is no way

#

fr???

fading crane
#

cant be sayin that queen is overrated and then flame sb for saying that mcr is overrated and mid

#

😭 šŸ™

scenic dawn
high fossil
simple lotus
#

Korn and Messhugah

agile thorn
#

That's a crazy take

simple lotus
#

And tbh I didn't know where ask this question so

#

Is King Crimson satanic band ?

sudden root
simple lotus
#

References in their songs

#

And Robert Fripp said that name King Crimson is reference to satan

#

And this face belongs to satan himself

sudden root
#

didn't Pete Sinfeld always deny the references?
As far as the name and how it came to be, this explanation is quite thorough...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Crimson

And for references... there are more Satanic references in many modern pop songs now than there are in a King Crimson album.

King Crimson were an English-based progressive rock band formed in London in 1968 by Robert Fripp (guitars), Michael Giles (drums), Greg Lake (bass, vocals), Ian McDonald (saxophone, flute, clarinet, keyboards) and Peter Sinfield (lyrics, illumination). Fripp remained the only constant member throughout the bands history. The band drew inspirat...

simple lotus
sudden root
#

Once again, a person's opinion - especially a YouTuber's does not make it so.
As mentioned... if you think they are demonic, by the use of logic, you also have to think that modern pop music is equally demonic with people dressing up as demons, having a ton of demonic references - such as at the grammys, ESC, etc. right?
We can pull up a plethora of YT videos for that as well... Does that make it any more or less true than this guys' take?

Quite a lot of Rock and Metal bands have played with the imagery for shock value over the years.

simple lotus
#

So, can I be Christian and love King Crimson music ?

sudden root
#

Why not?
Can you be Christian and love any Robert Johnson / old Blues Music - especially from Luisianna in the US - Music? Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin, even Taylor Swift? Ozzy Osbourne, etc. You and you alone have to determine whether you want to listen to any music.
Think about it, is a deity who controls your behaviour to this level worthy of being worshipped? Would an all-powerful, all-knowing deity let a Christian who worships be let astray intentionally? If yes, that's cruel, if no, then you have free will.

sudden root
#

I don't either, but just as an example, since she also has been accused of having rituals at some of her shows. Whether that's actually true or not, we can't determine with 100% accuracy - just like with King Crimson.
The point is: Think for yourself.
Man, even the Beatles were accused of having backwards satanic messages in at least one of their songs...

Listen to the music you want to listen to because you want to listen to it. šŸ˜‰

simple lotus
sudden root
#

šŸ‘

gritty stirrup
odd vine
#

Pearl Jam

agile thorn
livid stream
#

Bleed from Within

simple lotus
#

Btw, am I only one who prefers Metallica over Megadeth ?

gritty stirrup
#

no

sly iris
#

Deftones

#

Deftones ain’t even good

#

Also hot take but Linkin Park aswell

sly iris
#

The guitarists in Megadeth are better

#

Imo

agile thorn
scenic dawn
#

Slipknot is pretty overrated

scenic dawn
#

So I’d agree ther overated

agile thorn
#

Nirvana, korn, linkin park, bmth

#

Slayer

bitter bluff
#

Electric Callboy ( liked their old stuff wayy more )

main sorrel
#

Nirvana

warped flicker
bitter bluff
# warped flicker Who? Also is that Texas?

A german band singing in english they started out as metal but over the years ... well they are still kinda metal but its now a mix of techno and metal with that we dont take ourselfs serious at all vibe

#

Prev called "Eskimo Callboy" but they changed their name due to political reasons

warped flicker
#

Makes sense

scenic dawn
#

Radiohead

obtuse scarab
#

The Beatles- To be honest, I love them and they made a huge impact on pop culture and pop and rock music but they are just everywhere on movies, merchandise, and shirts and it gets too much.

Dave Matthews Band- I don't even listen to their music and I have mistaken one of their songs to be by John Mayer lol šŸ˜‚

spare knoll
#

nuh uh

scenic dawn
#

Yea they have a few good songs but there not crazy good

#

Like they can play some really difficult stuff but not my favorite

#

AC/DC is not that good

#

Idk why people act like there the best

livid stream
tawdry ridge
#

nobody acts like they are the best

wet dock
#

Beatles with the exception of a few songs that are pretty good.

nova bramble
#

^^

modern sparrow
#

ac/dc

main sorrel
high fossil
#

drowning pool

pine harness
#

Primus, Metallica, Beatles. All suck

high fossil
wispy shale
#

i saw here standing there, Back in the ussr is somewhat of a banger, twist and shout is a bit overrated but

#

eleanor rigby

#

hey bulldog

#

your mother should know

#

yellow submarine

#

drive my car

#

with a little help from my friends

#

one after 909

#

please mister postman

#

when im 64 (but thats granny music )

#

im only sleeping, come together while my guitar gently weeps and more.

wispy shale
high fossil
wispy shale
#

alrighty!

steep glade
#

Queen

#

@worthy gazelle nah

sudden root
wispy shale
#

yes.

#

i do agree

livid stream
#

Primus is supposed to suck

tawdry ridge
#

and they succeeded

pine harness
livid stream
#

You guys don't get it

umbral pelican
#

It feels like one of those band where half the fanbase is 12 year old kids trying to look edgy

livid stream
livid stream
unborn ridge
#

NAWH

#

THAT TEXT WAS FROM 2022šŸ’€

tawdry jacinth
#

Guys let’s keep this thread alive for another 3 years ik we can do it

#

The big 4 of thrash metal overrated af

blissful flax
#

the diabeatles

exotic marten
#

Disturbed and most metal bands like them.

hallow pawn
#

My chemical romance 🤮

#

soo mid

median orbit
#

The Eagles, Motley Crue, and Guns N' Roses. Yes, I get that Slash is a great guitarist, but Sweet Child O' Mine is so overplayed that I cringe every time I hear the riff.

bleak kindle
main sorrel
#

They are much overrated

livid stream
livid stream
slow vine
torn eagle
#

AC/DC for me

fast epoch
#

Beatles

slim bone
slim bone
warped flicker
#

AC/DC wrote like 3 songs and spent their entire carreer finding all the ways to rewrite them

slim bone
#

No .... juste no

#

@warped flicker u cant say that

warped flicker
#

I can though

#

Because it's true

#

Like 90% of their discography sounds the same

#

It's all the same drum beat and one-note basslines

#

The only thing that has any form of variation is the guitar parts, which are still just generic dad rock

torn eagle
#

The only good song they have is it’s a long way to the top

toxic bison
#

idk actually. I would say sattelite stories because theyre just rip off of other indie bands and they have nothing good imo, theyre just mid

radiant marsh
#

metallica is waaaayyyyy overrated like yes they helped metal but they didn’t do anything special imo

tawdry ridge
#

k

obtuse scarab
#

R.E.M

scenic dawn
sudden root
radiant marsh
#

i meant musically they didn’t do anything special they didn’t really pioneer anything crazy also pantera and ac/dc both played at that concert too so it wasn’t just them playing

#

i have nothing but respect for Metallica they’ve done wonders for making metal more mainstream and they inspired many bands to make music, all i’m saying is the band in itself if you look at them at face value they’re music is good but not amazing and i personally think they are overrated and didn’t do anything special

#

also rod stewart has played in front of 3.5 million

tawdry ridge
#

if you were in the 1980s, metallica was most definitely special

#

and they spearheaded the thrash movement

#

in addition to any one of their first 4 or even 5 albums easily ranking in the top albums of all time

#

metal or otherwise

#

the fact they didnt really bring anything new to the table for 3 decades kinda clouds that, sadly

median orbit
#

limp biscuit, even though i live in jacksonville

compact parrot
#

Megadeath

hardy reef
#

I agree with megadeath too

lethal bridge
fervent fox
#

Yessss

scenic dawn
#

Much better than Metallica

stray garnet
#

Hello Guys I'm new here

tawdry ridge
#

hello new here

cedar spoke
#

hot take, but imma say AC/DC. they all just kinda sound the same

tawdry ridge
#

damn that's a pretty hot take, careful you don't incinerate everything in 50 mile radius

cedar spoke
scenic dawn
weary mason
#

AC/DC

simple lotus
#

U2

lethal bridge
dark mauve
#

Animal Token and Slipknot

warped flicker
#

Who tf is animal token

vernal willow
high fossil
#

i think they made a giant typo

vernal willow
#

šŸ˜”

halcyon iron
#

Frr

scenic dawn
lucid lotus
#

It’s Radiohead by a long shot

halcyon iron
halcyon iron
torn galleon
#

The Beatles god sake i hate them

halcyon iron
pale lake
#

metyallicaa

whole gulch
#

Queen is overrated but you cant deny they have a lot of very good and influential songs, and they have also alot of underrated songs

#

Their first albums are underrated af

quasi lotus
torn galleon
native viper
#

U2

fossil tree
#

Kiss

#

Fuck kiss fr

halcyon iron
#

Lmao

fossil tree
#

And fuck slipknot

fossil tree
#

And fuck kirk hammet for dropping greeny

halcyon iron
fossil tree
#

And fuck idk 8 sting guitars

halcyon iron
#

Lmaoo

fossil tree
#

Oh and fuck people who dont like les pauls

torn galleon
fossil tree
#

Oh and fuck @torn galleon

#

Yk

torn galleon
fossil tree
#

Was that tuf?

topaz crane
#

Foo fighters

high fossil
#

Slipknot

vernal tinsel
#

The most overrated band ever by a mile is Queen

topaz crane
turbid moat
#

Avenged sevenfold

fossil tree
odd vine
#

Imagine dragons

topaz crane
#

I heard them the other day and my ears literally started breathing

odd vine
#

Radioactive šŸ—£ļø

#

Radioactive šŸ—£ļø

topaz crane
#

XD

pale lake
sharp breach
#

green day

unborn stump
#

hear me out... mettalica, there good but there's way better

topaz crane
livid stream
#

Muse. Too derivative

hot hinge
#

real

#

Radiohead

fleet oyster
#

what about httt

modern smelt
#

I like everything up to In Rainbows now

fleet oyster
modern smelt
#

and I like a couple Hail To The Thief songs

#

but after that I kinda check out

steep hill
#

Metallica is way too overrated like sire theyre good but not THAT good

quasi surge
#

(Daddy lars carries)

topaz crane
#

Modern sucks

valid iris
#

Megadeth is bunsšŸ’”

torn galleon
#

Thanks to metallica metal became more mainstream

#

Id they were the pioneers, not of metal but as a brand

torn galleon
ocean hull
#

Tame Impala

scenic dawn
#

Metallica is overated

#

And ac dc

#

Nirvana

#

Van Halen

topaz crane
topaz crane
# scenic dawn Nirvana

@rotund summit @shy delta @static nimbus @hushed field @old nova @primal jay @young crypt @twilit trout get him

old nova
#

Buddy’s summoning the hole army šŸ˜”

topaz crane
topaz crane
old nova
#

Oh shit I just read the message

topaz crane
#

I'm sorry man I had to

old nova
#

Get em boys!!!!

topaz crane
#

Yessir

old nova
#

And Metallica is Ken of my fav bands

topaz crane
old nova
#

*one of my favourite bands

topaz crane
#

Destroy this mofo

rotund summit
topaz crane
#

Got this to keep me company

rotund summit
# topaz crane

I gotta do a book esay and I chose that book i'm getting
10/10

topaz crane
topaz crane
#

Scream

#

Now that I'm listening to them they're not bad

rotund summit
#

Yeah there good

halcyon iron
#

Nirvana overrated asf

topaz crane
old nova
#

BOYYYYSSS

scenic dawn
#

There alright band

twilit trout
twilit trout
topaz crane
scenic dawn
#

Nirvana

valid iris
topaz crane
#

Yo man, sybau

topaz crane
topaz crane
valid iris
#

Kurt was bad at guitar and I don’t like his voice

valid iris
topaz crane
#

Dave grohl is peak

#

Especially scream and foo fighters

candid quiver
halcyon iron
valid iris
halcyon iron
hot hinge
#

creed

obtuse scarab
#

One simple word: metallica. Hate it or love it.

obtuse scarab
livid stream
#

MUSE, Their live performances are like a teenager rocking out in their bedroom. Not that amazing

full thorn
#

SLEEP TOKEN

brazen needle
#

Fuck you

steep hill
steep hill
scenic dawn
#

This whole channel is trolls and people to make others mad lol

livid stream
tulip flax
#

which sucks cuz like blackholes and revelations is such a goated album but they only play the three most popular songs šŸ˜”

tawdry jacinth
#

queen is still overrated tho

brazen needle
full thorn
wet siren
#

Yoooo Green Skeleton men way overrated

coarse plover
#

Blink 182

steep hill
coarse plover
topaz crane
#

Lol

leaden totem
#

One answer

#

U2

slow vine
#

Like?

#

Nu metal is full of great bands.

#

I’m not even necessarily into the genre but it’s objectively got some great bands In it

supple rose
#

As I do mature whilst playing, I seem to stop liking a few of his songs but some of them actually have some really good melodies

#

The main riff of the worst is an example

tulip flax
#

also why am i replying to a message from dec 2024 lol

supple rose
tulip flax
#

i liked his work on crossroads, the blues guitar battle

scenic dawn
#

Deftones

#

Are one of the most overrated

slow vine
scenic dawn
#

This channels for attention seeking

#

And arguing lol

astral moss
#

They da best evar

#

Cooom shuvit shuvit shuvit

lament pine
viscid flame
topaz crane
topaz crane
scenic dawn
#

Na

#

I’m done in this channel it’s just a way to argue lol

topaz crane
fleet oyster
#

Coldplay

supple rose
fleet oyster
topaz crane
simple lotus
#

LIMP BIZKIT SUCKS COCK !

pine imp
#

Ill say Queen

livid stream
#

Enter Shikari, they're shit

ashen lily
#

Foo Fighters,Nickleback,The Beatles,AC/DC,U2,Led Zeppelin.I could go on,but i will leave it at that.

unreal linden
#

Guns N Roses.

brazen needle
unreal linden
# brazen needle Fuck you

Butthurt much? and I must thank you for proving my point that they belong here, because if they don't have easily butthurt fans who think Slash is an amazing guitar player and they're the greatest thing on Earth, then they can't be overrated. For example, nobody really gives a shit about Nickelback...

astral moss
unreal linden
simple lotus
#

This is why I've told it

#

RATM is overrated for me as well

graceful jewel
#

nirvana definitley imo

#

DONT CANCEL ME

#

IMO

#

IMO

#

IMO

coarse plover
ashen lily
coarse plover
#

Also, I’d suggest not starting a sentence with and.

ashen lily
#

Nah,i'm good.You do you tho.

coarse plover
ashen lily
#

Too bad for you ,i guess

livid stream
#

Uber edge-lord

ashen lily
#

"Overrated Bands"

livid stream
ashen lily
#

I find it comical that people in here have a problem with other peoples opinions.

crimson wraith
#

Megadeath

frail plume
#

Pantera

tulip flax
crimson wraith
#

So it grew like an ick for me. I tried hearing maybe 1-4 songs but nothing hit

crimson wraith
#

The top ones on Spotify

crimson wraith
tulip flax
#

five magics
tornado of souls
holy wars
hangar 18
return to hangar
symphony of destruction

all have awesome guitar parts

#

"let there be shred" is a super new song from them but tbh the vocals and lyrics realy suck but the solos sound great

crimson wraith
#

It might the vocals in not a fan of

#

They’re good but too mmm below Metallica

tulip flax
tulip flax
#

kirk hammet's solos are super annoying to me lol

#

dave mustaine's solos arent much better

#

but luckily dave mustaine had marty friedman as his lead guitarist

crimson wraith
#

He’s easy top 5 of all time

tulip flax
# crimson wraith He’s easy top 5 of all time

naw hes only slightly better than dave mustaine. both have a similar style of spamming the fuck out of pentatonics. the only difference kirk has over dave is that kirk does tapped arpeggios and drowns his solos in wah. both have pretty weak melodic choices imho

#

paul gilbert, bruce bouillet, yngwie malmsteen, marty friedman, jason becker, and eddie van halen are much better imo

unreal linden
unreal linden
floral pollen
#

Aint no way you said that

warm veldt
tulip flax
floral pollen
floral pollen
tulip flax
#

james got better vocals than megadeth tho

floral pollen
floral pollen
#

Excellent argument. Approved āœ…

tulip flax
#

they are definitely chill people tho, i'd hang out with them but they probably wouldnt hang out with me cuz im mid at gutiar and im also annoying

worthy gazelle
unborn stump
#

mettalica

#

and

#

Limp Bizkit

random whale
#

Nirvana

obtuse scarab
#

So true tho

#

What dies that guy like

#

Anyways i'll say Coldplay and probably nirvana too, they got some nice songs but ehh, Kurt is deemed a god by some...

#

(As overrated bands)

obtuse scarab
random whale
tulip flax
obtuse scarab
#

But yeah, overrated is true

tulip flax
warm veldt
random whale
#

Some of it, but he made some great advancements in grunge tone. Not my genre, but I can appreciate any guitarist who builds their own pedals

warm veldt
#

When did he build his own pedal?

tulip flax
prisma forge
#

Im overrated

random whale
uncut prairie
#

Elvis Presley

tulip flax
obtuse scarab
#

But no shame in liking metallica, one of the biggest bands OAT

tulip flax
#

ive tried getting into metallica like 5-6 different times tho and the flaws were too much for me to enjoy them

#

gosh i sound so pretentious rn lol

obtuse scarab
#

I mean, it's understandable.

obtuse scarab
#

Jimi hendrix experience (sarcasm)

uncut prairie
#

Mad Season

obtuse scarab
# obtuse scarab Jimi hendrix experience (*sarcasm*)

Bad? BAD?! You dare utter such blasphemy about the holy trinity of rock? The Jimi Hendrix Experience wasn't just a band; it was a cosmic event! To call their music 'bad' is to declare the sky a dull gray and the sun a lukewarm ember. Have you even listened to the psychedelic tapestry they wove? The raw, untamed energy of 'Purple Haze'? The sorrowful beauty of 'The Wind Cries Mary'? The sheer, innovative genius of Hendrix's guitar playing? It's not just music; it's a visceral experience that transcends time and space. You clearly lack the capacity to comprehend such brilliance. Go back to your beige existence and leave the legends to those who can appreciate them!

obtuse scarab
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You read the sarcasm word?

tulip flax
obtuse scarab
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Clearly not enougy

uncut prairie
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Van Halen

random whale
uncut prairie
tulip flax
random whale
# uncut prairie His Solo is over rated

Like, all of his solos? He's got a distinct sound, and he pioneered that level of tapping. I feel like it's a hard sell that he's overrated as a guitarist. Maybe as a musician in general, but it's a bit like calling les Paul overrated. Let's call a spade a spade, yeah?

tulip flax
# uncut prairie Eruption

eruption is overrated but "hot for teacher" "ice cream man" "beat it" "humans being" "panama" "spanish fly" are all great solos

obtuse scarab
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Panama is a banger!

tulip flax
random whale
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The thing with EVH is that the more you know about guitar, the more you realize how crazy good he is. Not just technically, but melodically as well