#the_ukraine_situation

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hollow hollow
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heard in another server that backfires were spotted dropping bombs over mariupol, if there were ever a time to put those slovakian s300s to use it would be now

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no footage to confirm it tho

leaden grove
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Yeah, I‘ve heard of that too

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But they‘ll have a hard time getting any sort of large equipment near Mariupol

hollow hollow
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just looked it up, Col. Oleksandr Motuzianyk of the ukrainian MoD said earlier today that it was indeed backfires attacking mariupol

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according to cnn

leaden grove
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I wouldn’t be surprised

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At a certain point they might just decide to raze what‘s left of the city to the ground

hollow hollow
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it's a shame that such a beautiful aircraft is being used for genocide

scarlet crown
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guess Bucha made them learn how to clean up

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fucking assholes

wicked panther
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usa! usa!

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Thing is biden loves drone striking so much he probably wont sign a bill that stops horrific war weapons

leaden grove
wicked panther
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His second heart giving up

hollow hollow
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either that guy is the most stressed human being in history or none of putin’s poisons are working

opal cloak
wicked panther
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Well yes lizards do

viral junco
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The commander of cruiser "Moskva", Anton Kuprin, died during explosion and fire on board. This was reported by the adviser to Minister of Internal Affairs of #Ukraine Anton Gerashchenko.

Captain Anton Kuprin gave the order to bombard #Snake Island on the first day of the war.

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rest in piss

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@copper monolith

copper monolith
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@scarlet crownanother bozo bites the dust

scarlet crown
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oh yeah i've heard

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another down, let's get some more

fierce arch
lilac sparrow
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moskva went exactly where the snake island garrison told them to go

copper monolith
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bet those boys are now celebrating, knowing that the ship that almost ended their lives is at the bottom of the sea

opal cloak
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So How is the war looking who do you thinks going to win at this rate

copper monolith
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hard to tell, obviously everyone here is rooting for Ukraine

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the demented fuck in the Kremlin is raging mad cuz his lil boat was sunk, and now he's bombing Kyiv again

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and now Russia's mobilising forces in the east to get some sort of "victory" before the annual jerkoff parade

split aurora
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define "winning"

copper monolith
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uk rejoining eu, coolcon rtgameGeorge

hollow hollow
split aurora
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you could define a win as just surviving, but you could also define "win" as pre-war border

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or you could define "win" as pre-2014 borders

hollow hollow
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personally i’d define a “victory” as pre-2014 borders, but i think that’s unlikely

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either way, the war is still a complete catastrophe for russia

split aurora
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theres scales of victory

hollow hollow
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by victory i mean a definitive, indisputable win

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like ww2 or the gulf war

split aurora
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absolute victory

split aurora
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2 nuclear warheads possibly now sat in the black sea

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:)

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No risk of contamination, nor was it carrying them out of the ordinary

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but if it was carrying warheads

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then this is gonna be a scramble to recover

viral junco
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if ukraine grabs them it'll be a huge deterrent

split aurora
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ukraine doesn't have either detonation/storage/maintenance capabilities

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at least, I think

copper monolith
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how would they even use those warheads? did the Moskva have rocket launching platforms?

split aurora
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It was a missile cruiser

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so nuclear tipped missiles

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possibly land missiles, possibly sea

copper monolith
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makes me wonder if Russia has actual tactical nukes ready to be used

paper cedar
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They probably store them casually on the ship just because it's an important one

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they for sure didn't expect them like sinking

split aurora
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rn Britain, France, Russia, America all have submarines somewhere in the world

copper monolith
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I regret leaving my room for a min, overheard Russian propaganda say, and I quote, "despite Joe Biden saying that there is genocide happening on the Ukrainian soil, the British intelligence has not found any proof on that"

split aurora
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sailing round with nuclear missiles

split aurora
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that's a rollercoaster

copper monolith
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i subject myself to the worst mindfucks every time I leave me room and overhear the shit my dad listens to on his pc, laptop and tv lmao

leaden grove
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My grandparents manage to find the same content on YouTube

hushed magnet
leaden grove
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Soloviev might be gone from YTA but there’s plenty of channels who say the exact same things

split aurora
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meanwhile my dad just defends the tories daily racism on BBC news

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I hate sitting down for breakfast and seeing him put the news on

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he always tried to get me to agree with him

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in my head I'm like

hushed magnet
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my parents be watching qanon shit on bitchute

split aurora
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"no I'm not gonna agree we should drown starving Syrian children"

viral junco
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meanwhile my mother is sick to death of me telling her the news and what thing the government did today

split aurora
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The summary here is parents shouldn't be allowed access to Internet.

leaden grove
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Same

split aurora
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Once you reach 34 you are banned from new technology

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why 34? I decided it

viral junco
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what if you're aro ace

split aurora
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aye then you're allowed

mighty tusk
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ive heard putin is mad about west supplying ukraine?

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i mean ofc, but a statement

leaden grove
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Yeah, but that‘s not a new thing

split aurora
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he's been shouting about it since February

leaden grove
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They‘ve been threatening strikes on trucks carrying arms from the first week of the war

viral junco
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putin openly threatens joining the war, so rather people aide the effort

split aurora
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far better then the uk situation...

viral junco
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i'm glad we have some shelter at least

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i was upset at the fact only 50% of the accomodations were suitable but i'm glad theres somehwere for people

copper monolith
split aurora
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lmfao

split aurora
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nobody on the streets, make the government a crap load of money

copper monolith
split aurora
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Finland gave every homeless person a free apartment

copper monolith
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instead of cutting homeless people in half, the UK gov should give them a bed instead

split aurora
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It made a net benefit for the state

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People with house = get job = pay taxes + don't take welfare

copper monolith
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bringing people back into the economy will do nothing but good

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ye

split aurora
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also people on the streets get ill a lot more and go to govt healthcare

viral junco
split aurora
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😔

copper monolith
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time to make arm rests on every bench

split aurora
copper monolith
viral junco
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still thinking of that one councillor from galway who tried to make anti homeless benches and make it as "wheelchair friendly"

split aurora
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😩

copper monolith
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that's horrible

split aurora
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I fucking hate anti homeless (and, similarly, anti teenager) architecture

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so much

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its cruelty for the sake of cruelty

copper monolith
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anti teenager?

split aurora
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though it petered off after abouts 2010

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the uk had a craze "anti-teenager" panic

paper cedar
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I agree it's just so bad, I have seen previous week in a mall some chairs that were the most uncomfortable ones I have seen in my life

split aurora
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Installed everywhere were high pitched alarms

viral junco
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the consequence of anti teenager behaviour is it led to an uptick in antisocial behaviour and a decline in sales

split aurora
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which people over the age of ~20 couldn't here

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but for teenagers caused significant pain

paper cedar
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uh what

split aurora
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meant to "deter teenagers loitering"

viral junco
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also, to add to that, it means that teenagers who should've been allowed to go outside now are online 24/7

paper cedar
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how does high pitched alarms actually work?

split aurora
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The Mosquito or Mosquito alarm is a machine used to deter loitering by emitting sound at high frequency. In some versions, it is intentionally tuned to be heard primarily by younger people. The devices have attracted controversy on the basis of human rights and discrimination concerns.
Nicknamed "Mosquito" for the buzzing sound it plays, the dev...

split aurora
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the range of frequencies they can hear shrink

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I can still hear upto 17, 18khz

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my dad can only hear 13,14,15khz

paper cedar
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No I meant like when it actually activates

split aurora
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it releases a very high pitched loud sound

copper monolith
split aurora
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but I physically flinched when I heard it

copper monolith
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also huh never seen this, even on my trips to the UK when I was a teen

viral junco
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i cant hear it because i have tinnitus

split aurora
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and I had my volume very low

paper cedar
split aurora
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yeah

split aurora
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I've had anxiety attacks in public from them before

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they aren't fun

paper cedar
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Do people turn them on just for fun orwhen something happens?

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and if something happens then what?

split aurora
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They were turned on at night usually

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presence activated

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to deter "loitering"

paper cedar
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wow that's shitty

copper monolith
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a. To stand idly about; linger without any purpose.
b. Law To violate a law or ordinance that prohibits persons from remaining in a given location without a clear purpose for an extended period of time, especially when behaving in a manner indicating a possible threat to persons or property in the vicinity.

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???

split aurora
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Yeah

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They passed a new type of criminal punishment

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Anti-Social behaviour orders

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ABO's for short

copper monolith
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nothing's more anti social than standing

split aurora
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which were handed out willy nilly to teenagers

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Causes for these include

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Loitering

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Rudeness

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Spitting

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begging

scarlet crown
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wow okay

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more reasons to dislike Britain

viral junco
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James bond, licence to stand around and not do anything in particular

hushed magnet
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can confirm

tired scaffold
split aurora
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Oh yeah they gave a woman an antisocial behaviour order

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for attempting suicide

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bri'ian

copper monolith
scarlet crown
split aurora
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These ABOs lasted from 1998-2014

split aurora
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Fun fact

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begging is illegal in the uk

tired scaffold
split aurora
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homeless people can and have been prosecuted

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for begging

copper monolith
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who makes these laws

tired scaffold
scarlet crown
split aurora
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the vagrancy act

tired scaffold
split aurora
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the uk had a load of veterans returning from the napoleon's wars

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sooo instead of helping them

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we let them become homeless

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then lock them up and force them to work

tired scaffold
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you say "we" as if the commoners had any say in the matter

split aurora
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But yeah ABOs massive disprortionately targeted young people with disabilities

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and had the main effect of seemingly criminalising being outside as a teenager

scarlet crown
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copper monolith
split aurora
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Man I don't fucking get why loitering is illegal (in some places/areas)

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why should it be a crime for me to... stand in an area for an extended period of time

scarlet crown
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literally 1984

copper monolith
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unironically

scarlet crown
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man what's worse than being born in Britain

copper monolith
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a man just... runs around without any weapon, and I assume the recorder is also without weapons

scarlet crown
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are they sharing a gun

split aurora
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Literally pubg

split aurora
scarlet crown
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Lmao

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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still so proud of that

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After that, the days here got way more quiet

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with air sirend lasting less than 30 minutes or so

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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this war is so surreal

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Their army is both fucking hilarious and damn despicable at the same time

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close to 0 war competence, yet so violent towards civilians

split aurora
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shooting at people who can't shoot back is easy

scarlet crown
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It's hard to even talk about their strategic goals because more and more it seems like a game of "destroy the most shit while we can before we get our asses torn off"

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they're just getting fucked, big time, no idea what the fuck they're even thinking of. If the usual "we will win" was a morale boost at the start, now it's a more than true statement

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can't wait to wake up one day to that damned empire crashing down

unreal path
fierce arch
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no longer is this about making ukraine more pro russia

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or even trying to control the donbas region

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its about trying to prove that russia is still a great power

buoyant sundial
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Yeah I don’t think they are at all

fierce arch
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ukraine is not a particularly powerful country

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for a self-proclaimed great power like russia to be so incredibly stalled doesnt do any favors to the country's image

wicked panther
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What a strange way to stop loitering of all things

stark inlet
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Meanwhile in russia

limber wagon
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Now thats art

stark inlet
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I wonder if thats the mcdonalds logo on the red stripe

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One of the symbols there is slightly nsfw so i wont risk posting the image here

viral junco
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My bad I forgot to disclose my reason for my involvement in support, I like men

leaden grove
stark inlet
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Either fake or they just took it from the interwebs

limber wagon
stark inlet
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gonna be a nice bump when those 430-500 people from moskva get confirmed

copper monolith
hushed magnet
copper monolith
copper monolith
limber wagon
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"unprecedented hostile actions" huh?

clear pebble
copper monolith
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nice

opal cloak
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what Currency do thay use in Ukraine ?

copper monolith
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hryvnia

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still doing better than the rouble

split aurora
scarlet crown
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pfffwheee

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that reminds me of one joke about russian defence ministry

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"you see, ukrainian forces hit our warship "Moskva" because it was 4 tiles long. they'll have a way harder job to hit our 3 and 2 tiles ships"

split aurora
scarlet crown
copper monolith
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great movie

split aurora
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lmfao

split aurora
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Hungary annexing bavaria wasn't on my 2022 bingo card

split aurora
copper monolith
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bruh

scarlet crown
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look at the seal

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folks from Izmail. Odessa region put a sign pointing there in antarctica

split aurora
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Happy seal

copper monolith
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WHOLESOME

scarlet crown
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i love seals

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round sea dogs

split aurora
copper monolith
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what the fuck

scarlet crown
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it's not the first time either

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I saw a pic once of a chair mined

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just a mine under it that will detonate once someone sits on the chair

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fucking monsters

haughty yew
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From CNN

scarlet crown
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pundits will be like "but can't you SEE?? they're NAZIS in DISGUISE!!!! they're SPIES of AZOV REGIMENT!!!!`11!"

copper monolith
split aurora
copper monolith
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copper monolith
split aurora
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Taya how could you do this

limber wagon
viral junco
viral junco
stark harness
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So uhh

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Mariupol

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Looks real fucking grim there

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Admittedly I have barely been up to date on the war

wicked panther
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Its grim

leaden grove
# stark harness Looks real fucking grim there

Yeah, there still seems to be some Ukrainian units left, but the Russians seem to be very scared of a resistance forming too and from what I‘ve heard, things might get worse after this weekend as supposedly the entire town will be locked down in order to find all military-age men

stark harness
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Oh god

scarlet crown
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Mariupol right now is living hell

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There is no city Mariupol anymore, just the territory

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And ruins

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Once one of the fastest developing cities in Ukraine

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Turned into dust by russian "liberators"

paper cedar
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what the heck happened in Mariupol?

limber wagon
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Russia

paper cedar
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I heard so many bad things in the past 2 weeks but didn't see like any images

paper cedar
# limber wagon Russia

I mean of course but I meant like how bad is it compared to like other cities?
When I hear like entire town being locked and stuff it feels really like a living hell

hollow hollow
scarlet crown
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Corpses laying in the streets

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burials in parks

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Constant shellings

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People starving in shelters

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It is living hell

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All man-made by russians

split aurora
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tldr: a prolonged, very bloody siege, urban warfare

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combined with a shit load of war crimes and disregard for human life

hollow hollow
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imagine a modern day siege of leningrad

paper cedar
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I didn't know it was THAT bad

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actually that isn't even considered bad, that's considered horrific

leaden grove
silk iron
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who's Kadyrov?

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is he a Chechen warlord by chance?

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The estimate for civilian causalities in Mariupol is 21,000 dead (as of April 12th according to the Mayor of Mariupol).

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"Boychenko [the mayor of Mariupol] cited a Ukrainian government estimate of "from 20,000 to 30,000" Mariupol residents having been forcibly sent to territory under Russian control." (Mar 27th)

split aurora
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russia moment

silk iron
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i mean it's less than 100%, that's pretty good by ~~rigged ~~election standards

split aurora
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He's ruled for 15years, and used massacres and torture whenever he felt like it

leaden grove
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He also regularly abducts people throughout Russia

viral junco
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the gay purges as well

copper monolith
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a piece of shit

scarlet crown
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what a shame he actually didn't step a foot in Kyiv

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we'd do Chechnya such a favor

hollow hollow
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i heard the uk sent harpoons to ukraine maybe a week or two ago, did they ever arrive?

scarlet crown
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no idea really

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split aurora
scarlet crown
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ah well

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fair enough

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tis a shame we won't see how really Moskva got hit

copper monolith
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def got fucked up by a Neptune missile

split aurora
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In 2016, Google Translate's Ukrainian to Russian function translated "Russia" as "Mordor". Google claimed this to be a "technical error" and issued an apology.

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lmfao

copper monolith
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wtf lol

scarlet crown
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sounds like ukrainians tweaked the tech a bit

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we call them orcs in mordor like every day

lilac sparrow
wicked panther
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Lmaooo

viral junco
scarlet crown
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here we go lads

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copper monolith
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8 years of dehumanizing Ukrainians and rejecting the right to exist for the nation Sadge

stark inlet
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Gee i wonder why ukrainians hate them

split aurora
copper monolith
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👁️

split aurora
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Germany: "oh no we uh can't send any more weapons cuz gas industry so sorry gu-"
Eastern Europe barges in with tanks and MLRS

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Photo: RM-70 Vampire The Czech Republic has issued at least 20 RM-70 Vampire multiple launch rocket systems based on the BM-21 “Grad” radyansk system. Andriy Tsaplienko, a journalist, spoke about the cost of flying    onboard vantazhivki with a wheel formula of 6×6, which carried a group of forty 122-millimeter missiles, which can be launched in...

copper monolith
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😎

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babes wake up, new bozo just dropped dead

leaden grove
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Der ukrainische Außenminister hat im SPIEGEL mehr deutsche Führung gefordert. Trotzdem kann das nicht bedeuten, dass Berlin jede Forderung oder Verschwörungstheorie aus Kiew einfach hinnimmt, kontert Sigmar Gabriel.

viral junco
copper monolith
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more sunflowers

leaden grove
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He makes some good points about Minsk accords and Germany‘s role in them, but I highly disagree with his conclusions

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Gabriel says that blaming Steinmeier for creating a network of Russian contacts in Germany is "untrue and evil"

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And somehow he still believes that this war is only about the Russian minority in the Donbas region

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You can sum up the last paragraphs with "Tanks are bad, we need to think about our future relationship with Russia and sending heavy arms might not help with that"

viral junco
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salami tactics once more

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doing nothing when other countries are being destroyed

leaden grove
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Yeah, and another noticeable thing is that he only speaks of "us being responsible"

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He doesn’t mention a single mistake he personally made

leaden grove
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Even though he was in the government right when the Crimea annexation happened and after

leaden grove
viral junco
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"don't call the police on the bank robber with a gun to your nan's head, we need to think about our future with the robbers"

leaden grove
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That‘s why he also says that we have to put ourselves in Russia‘s shoes etc.

leaden grove
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And the thing that bugs me the most is that he expresses more outrage with the behaviour of Ukraine‘s foreign office than with the war itself

viral junco
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i love spinelessness!!! it really isn't destroying everything right now!!!

leaden grove
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He accuses them of spreading conspiracy theories about German politics

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The title is:
Sigmar Gabriel: We need a cold peace
The Ukrainian foreign minister has demanded more German leadership in the SPIEGEL newspaper. However that can’t mean that Berlin simply accepts every demand or conspiracy theory from Kyiv, concurs Sigmar Gabriel

split aurora
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I started to read the article but gave up about 1/2 in

viral junco
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yeah that guy is almost certainly a putin puppet

split aurora
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still feeling shitty with covid today 😔

leaden grove
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Aw, I hope you get well soon!

split aurora
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With the minsk accords, thing is

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its the type of agreement that entirely falls apart

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when one party fires one shot

copper monolith
split aurora
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and amongst the ukraine army, the Russians, the donbass rebels, independent fighters

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someone fired a shot

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and it fell apart 12seconds after being signed

split aurora
paper cedar
copper monolith
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less than before the invasion xd

split aurora
paper cedar
copper monolith
split aurora
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I see England also sent its rain over to ukraine

leaden grove
split aurora
copper monolith
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This is how it was modernized bannyP

limber wagon
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Gotta get that bonus holy damage /s

copper monolith
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I got a meme on my pc of a russian priest blessing a pile of ak47s, and the caption says something like +2 holy damage

hollow hollow
copper monolith
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Oh yeah Patriarch Kyril is a big Putin friend and they both worked hard the past 20 years making religion a big thing again

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Nvm those look like ak74s

hollow hollow
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why does that guy in camo look so terrified

split aurora
copper monolith
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"May these weapons kill more of God's children"

wicked panther
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For the emperor!

copper monolith
silk iron
scarlet crown
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Things are looking out pretty good for Odessa

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Today will be an attempt to demine the coast

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It has to do with minimal threats of paratroopers being sent in and us recieving weapons so strong that they won't even have a chance to get near land

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The city centre no longer has anti-tank obstacles either

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seems like the only threat would be rocket strikes, but even those became less likely due to Moskva sinking

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as you can see on the map, we've also managed to counterattack in the east a bit

copper monolith
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🙏

paper cedar
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Seems like a good day for Ukraine

leaden grove
copper monolith
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brug

split aurora
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Hmm

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Ik america has sent the most in pure money terms

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but I wonder who's sent the most relative to their military budget

paper cedar
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hmm I wonder too

split aurora
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be an eastern european country deffo

leaden grove
split aurora
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the US military gets like $820bn a year or smth daft like that

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so yeah they better be sending huge shipments

leaden grove
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Afaik Germany has even sent less humanitarian supplies than Estonia

split aurora
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pain

leaden grove
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They‘ve mainly focused on providing money to the central bank

split aurora
leaden grove
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Which is great, but something that will come in handy when the war is over, not now

leaden grove
split aurora
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height is per capita, across is pure numbers

leaden grove
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A lot of military units are supplied by private logistics companies

split aurora
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ye

leaden grove
split aurora
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true

leaden grove
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I just spend a while sifting through German media and sadly it seems like a lot of people agree with Gabriel

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Polls show that a majority supports arms deliveries to Ukraine, but at the same time there‘s a certain war tiredness kicking in, along with a perceived ungratefulness

snow pecan
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perceived ungratefulness?

leaden grove
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A lot of German politicians are very upset about Steinmeier‘s visit to Kyiv being cancelled

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And now they accuse the Ukrainian government of not being grateful enough for the support Germany is providing for them

split aurora
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the ungratefulness argument really annoys me

viral junco
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said support: 🦗

leaden grove
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Or like Gabriel, not being grateful enough for what Germany has done in the past 🤠

split aurora
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It's not a "gift" to ukraine, its our moral duty to help them ffs

leaden grove
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I don’t know how Gabriel can say with a straight face that Germany has been Ukraine’s biggest supporter

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Like

leaden grove
split aurora
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yeah

leaden grove
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The language they use is very peculiar too

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It’s almost seen as an insult to "German greatness"

tired scaffold
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German greatness
oh boy not again

scarlet crown
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nazi round two let's gooooooo

scarlet crown
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But everything else is confirmed

copper monolith
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no demining 😔

scarlet crown
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It's for the best

copper monolith
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idk where to even begin, while cleaning up the apartment I was subjected to listening to the most... how do I put it in the most rule friendly terms

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dumbfuck propaganda, like it's so fucking stupid

haughty yew
copper monolith
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they were also interviewing the "Ukrainian opposition" politician Viktor Medvedchuk who talked about how Poroshenko was scared of the nazis, but Zelenskyy uses them to gain control of the country, and "is ready to tattoo a swastika on his chest"

haughty yew
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He’s literally Jewish wtf

copper monolith
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they talked about how Zelenskyy was shooting a Kvartal 95 episode in the form of the massacre at Bucha, with telling actors where to lie before taking images and shit

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and, "when even the butchers in the west didn't believe him", a Tochka-U was used by the Ukrainian army, and was launched from the Ukrainian territory

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and in that part they said Russia doesn't operate the missile???

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at that point I was so tired of that fucking dumbass shit I just paused the broadcast until I was done cleaning

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A lot were also saying that the direction in which the launcher, not the payload landed proved taht it came from Ukraine

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pain

clear creek
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Hows mariopol?

scarlet crown
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gone

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the defenders are still there but the city is practically no more

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this got posted in another server, the translation is basically that a ukrainian bartender in spain was beaten by russian tourists after greeting them with “glory to ukraine!”, was wondering what everyone’s thoughts on this was. this may be a hot take, the russians were obv pieces of shit, but people really shouldn’t go around assuming every russian is a nazi (even if this guy was right), it’s unfair to the russians that don’t support the war and it just gives ammunition to russian propagandists https://twitter.com/_A_Vit_/status/1515333563742367750

В испанском баре в Аликанте трое рашистских туристов напали на бармена, который поздоровался с ними словами «Слава Украине!», и жестоко его за это избили.

Вот почему до полной денацификации всего населения РФ это рашистское зверьё нельзя выпускать за границы путинского рейха.

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i mean i despise the chinese government and basically everything they’re doing, but i don’t go around assuming everyone from china is a ccp fanatic who supports genocide against uyghurs

tired scaffold
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I don't see where "he assumed they were nazis" comes from

hollow hollow
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i don’t think he said “glory to ukraine” because he thought they were good people

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i mean maybe we’re not getting the full picture here, but from the info we have it’s not a great look for the bartender to say this to random people

wicked panther
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He said glory to ukraine as a general statement not because he thought they were good or bad but because they were russian

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You shouldnt shout that at any russian you see

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Those Russians may be staunchly against the war, they may have dead relatives

leaden grove
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^^^^

split aurora
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it wouldn't be right to go round in 1940 USA screaming "God save the Queen" to any German you see

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or screaming "the Falklands are british" to an Argentinian

leaden grove
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Yeah, it ranges from pointless to shitty

split aurora
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(of course, incase its needed to say, beating someone up for that is an unjustified escalation, and wrong)

leaden grove
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Agreed

hollow hollow
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at this point “glory to ukraine” has a failry strong anti-russian connotation. even if the connotation is 100% justified, people really shouldn’t say that to random people from russia that they know nothing about

split aurora
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mhmm

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nice

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also overheard more Russian propaganda bullshit

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"all the western politicians are tired of hearing about Ukraine and are hoping the special operation is over soon" and "nobody will care about the refugees as they're burning cars in Germany"

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pics of the Moskva finally surfaced (hah)
tentatively
two hits right on the waterline, mostly concealed because it's listing hard towards them
definitely major flooding and fire in the machine spaces amidships
somehow, the P-500s on the foredeck seem to have come through it unscathed!
and all that stuff about a storm was pure disinfo
if you can't damage control in that sea state, you can't damage control at all```
my friend did a lil analysis
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something else i noticed: the arm launchers for the osa SAMs aren't deployed. so it's not that the osas tried and failed to shoot down the missiles, they didn't even fucking deploy

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yikes lmao

split aurora
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interesting!

copper monolith
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how many sailors died?

split aurora
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not known

copper monolith
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the kremlin will not release any data

split aurora
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there are guesstimates but they are very vague

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there was an apparent parade of survivors

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in images released by russian sources

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its definitely the captain, maybe the crew, numbers are about 1/2 total crew, date photo taken is highly debated, trees appear to be not in correct season (blooming or some shit im not a tree person)

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lemme find the links

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cant find the link, my apologies

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`The Russian defence ministry has published images showing what it says is the crew of the warship Moskva - the first time any sailors from the ship have been seen since its sinking.

A large group of sailors is seen on parade in the Crimean port city of Sevastopol, met by Navy Commander-in-Chief Adm Nikolay Yevmenov.`

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`The video shows Adm Yevmenov and two other officers standing on a parade ground in front of about 100 sailors.

It is not clear when the meeting took place.`

hollow hollow
hollow hollow
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A couple days old but still thought it was important to share

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In der Ukraine tobt dieser furchtbare Krieg und wir stehen fest an der Seite der Ukrainer:innen. Leider attackiert während dessen der ukrainische Botschafter immer heftiger deutsche Politiker:innen. Seinem Volk hilft er damit nicht. Wir sollten uns davon nicht irritieren lassen.

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sunk

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ok

split aurora
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That image was the 15th

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it has almost certainly now sunk

leaden grove
split aurora
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jesus christ

clear pebble
split aurora
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nice

leaden grove
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slams head violently into desk

clear pebble
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That's pretty close to the Polish border 👀

paper cedar
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If I remember history Lviv was back then kinda a part of Poland

leaden grove
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It was part of Poland for about 300 years, yeah

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And then again between WWI and WWII

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Nice

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though, not many ships sail under russian flags anyway

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Nor a lot of major nations

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P&O does ferry services in the uk/France, they're flagged in Cyprus, for tax / lower minimum wage purposes (as an example)

copper monolith
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including those that changed their flags to another nationality after February 24

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that's at least something

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but ye most are under flags of Panama etc

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Today is your lucky day if you‘re a SPD fan! Just saw this gem: https://twitter.com/florianpost/status/1515791557667999746

Es vergeht ja kein Tag, an dem @MelnykAndrij nicht noch was einfällt, was #deutschland der #ukraine liefern könnte. Ich empfehle ihm, seinen Wortschatz auf folgende zwei Worte zu erweitern bzw. zu begrenzen. „BITTE und DANKE“ Lernt man schon sehr früh! #MelnykAndrij #diplomatie

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Translation:
Not a single day passes without Andrij Melnyk [the Ukrainian ambassador to Germany] coming up with something that Germany could deliver to Ukraine. I advise him to expand or alternatively limit his vocabulary to the following two words: "PLEASE and THANK YOU" You learn this very early on!

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"Sorry we can't send humanitarian aid unless your president personally comes and sucks me off twice a day ❤️"

copper monolith
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😳

wicked panther
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Damn you Rotterdam for stealing first place

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P sure hamburg was third?

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Its mainly the arrival of coals and cars that will be blocked by this

viral junco
copper monolith
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man...

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(multiple images on tweet)

opal cloak
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...?

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There is a Russian Satellite named Sevastopol I didnt know it was a real place

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leaden grove
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nice

leaden grove
hollow hollow
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today i started working on a drawing about the sinking of moskva, it’s in #creative-corner if anyone wants to see

raven fossil
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An artist’s rendition, huh

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Neat

copper monolith
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damn nice

leaden grove
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German media is reporting it too

scarlet crown
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send your prayers folks

copper monolith
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fuck rtgameConcern

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Слава Украине, героям слава!

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even a notification

raven fossil
silk iron
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Does this count as a new separate phase of the war?

copper monolith
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yeah

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first phase was trying to take over Kyiv asap and other areas, and when that failed spectacularly (the kyiv part at least), this is now a čnd one

silk iron
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hopefully the Russian forces won't make significant gains in the eastern oblasts.

copper monolith
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yeah

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hopefully a lot of NATO weapons arrived in time

leaden grove
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😬

silk iron
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do note, it's possible a lot of the logistic problems faced by the Russian forces will have been ironed out.

leaden grove
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Yeah, the American intelligence briefing for today mentioned a lot more supply units

silk iron
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how's the weather forecast looking like in eastern Ukraine too?

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I don't think there'll be the same wet weather bogging down Russian armour and convoys like back in early March.

leaden grove
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a lot of wetness indeed

silk iron
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that's rather fortunate - not sure why the Russian forces are renewing the offensive in wet weather though...

fierce arch
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even the weather wants russia to go fuck itself lol

leaden grove
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Maybe they‘ll stick to roads this time

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They‘ve got a new commander who‘s supposedly a lot more old-fashioned in terms of strategy

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raven fossil
split aurora
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and they have to go round them

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and get stuck in the mud

leaden grove
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True

silk iron
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perhaps Russian high command doesn't want to wait any longer considering more arms reach the Ukrainian defenders the longer they stall.

leaden grove
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Yeah

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Also don’t forget May 9

silk iron
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feels very much that the Russians are fighting a disadvantaged war at this point, which only becomes more and more disadvantaged as time goes on.

leaden grove
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They‘ll either need results or a very good reason to continue by then

silk iron
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Russia

fierce arch
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they had all the advantages

leaden grove
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The issue is still that Russia has a lot more raw manpower and also the ability to use bombers

fierce arch
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tbf

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bombers arent as effective as they once were

silk iron
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sure but would Russian conscripts want to fight in such a war?

leaden grove
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Conscripts are already being used

leaden grove
silk iron
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yes, but the more the Russian forces rely on conscripts the less disciplined and organised their army becomes

fierce arch
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with the new offensive i think their only goal now is jsut to occupy the donbas region

leaden grove
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As far as I know most units don’t entirely consist of conscripts, but that is a valid point

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copper monolith
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occupy donbas -> proclaim that you "liberated the oppressed russians" there -> say that was your goal the entire time -> claim victory -> use that for propaganda

silk iron
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basically

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@copper monolith brainwashed ignorant soldiers and fearful soldiers, tend not to be particularly good fighters... and the true nature of the war eventually gets back home. (think of the Soviet-Afghan War, or the Vietnam War)

fierce arch
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the level of propaganda

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can't be compared to the vietnam war

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and the soviet afghan war only ended because the soviet union was already falling apart

silk iron
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young soldiers are the ones sent to fight the war, they're generally the most cynical towards the Russian state's narrative and unlike during the vietnam war or the soviet-afghan war the internet and social media offer a bypass (particularly with a VPN) around the propaganda machines of old

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i said this a few weeks ago, would not surprise me at all

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I wonder let’s say if Russia successfully “liberates” the two regions in Donbas should they just stop there ablobthinking

silk iron
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Russia would likely try to sue for peace after fully occupying the Luhansk on Donetsk oblasts. I don't see Russian forces trying to push their luck beyond that objective.

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they wouldn't sue for peacew

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they'd declare peace

silk iron
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"sue for peace" is the correct term

split aurora
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It's not though

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because that's not what would happen

silk iron
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ofc if you're talking propaganda back home yes, the Russians would declare the nazis vanquished the oppressed liberated and an everlasting peace back home.

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Suing for", in this older sense of the phrase, means "pleading or petitioning for". Suing for peace is usually initiated by the losing party in an attempt to stave off an unconditional surrender. The nation holding the upper hand may find, in the losing party’s offer of making peace, an opportunity for relief from the necessity of having to continue to wage a costly war. Therefore, in this usage, the verb "to sue" means "to ask" or "to seek" rather than "to take legal action against".

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Russia wouldn't ask to negotiate a peace deal, they'd declare "the war is over"

copper monolith
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and put defensive lines round what they want to annex

unreal path
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Has France’s election finished yet? Did he win?

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Last thing we need is what her name is in charge

silk iron
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well LePen would move France towards neutrality in the Russo-Ukrainian war

unreal path
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She already talked about normalizing relations with Russia

silk iron
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Macron himself feels pressured to not send as much aid to Ukraine because of LePens position

split aurora
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Ah okay

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I mean I’m not a fan of the current guy tbh but rather have him than her

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Especially right now

silk iron
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indeed

split aurora
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Macrons fucking shite, but le pens worse

unreal path
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Yep

silk iron
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France and Germany aren't pulling their weight when it comes to supporting Ukraine tbh

unreal path
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I wish they did more

silk iron
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Hungary neither, but that was expected

split aurora
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germany's being a little bitch

unreal path
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Yeah but it’s Hungary

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SPD politicians complaining about not being thanked enough

silk iron
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lmao

unreal path
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Hungary is one of those that could get kicked out of the EU

split aurora
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nah

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kicking out of EU needs every other member

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and upside down monaco exists

silk iron
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Orban could lose some funding from the EU

split aurora
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ye

unreal path
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I mean that’s a major blow if that happens regardless if they are still in the EU or not

silk iron
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Poland might lose funding as well, but that's less likely given their elections are still fair

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and a lot of eastern European/blatic EU states will back Poland up given their stance against Russia

unreal path
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Gotta give Poland credit for that

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I mean especially with their past with Russia

silk iron
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funny really, Ukrainian and Polish relations have not only been repaired but have been consolidated the past 2 months

unreal path
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Then we got Sweden and Finland possibly joining NATO as soon as this summer

silk iron
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considering a less than cordial history between the two nations

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meanwhile in Britain Bojo is likely going to be removed

split aurora
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eh

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polls suggest hung parliament

silk iron
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by the conservatives that is

unreal path
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I would hope he gets removed

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But unlikely atm

split aurora
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i doubt boris will be axed by his own party

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who would he be replaced by

unreal path
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It’s weird because the UK technically doesn’t have a constitution it’s all built off of norms and past laws

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it doesnt help the leader of labour, keir starmer, is god awful

silk iron
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there's talks of him being removed from Tory pamphlets and no mention of him in the upcoming by-election

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Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 FOREVER

silk iron
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well Starmer is in a tricky position trying to move Labour back to the centre centre/right

split aurora
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but why

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Labour was founded as a socialist party

silk iron
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Labour once again divided between the neo-blairites and pre-blarities

unreal path
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So Labour sounds like The democrats

split aurora
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labour can't succeed trying to "out right the conservatives"

silk iron
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Tony Blair did

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and the conservatives arent conservative anymore

unreal path
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Since a lot of people think the democrats are left XD yeah no they are center at best

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indeed

unreal path
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Left leaning parties have a hard time staying together because of in fighting

silk iron
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but the conservatives have sold out their old conservative values of law and order and low taxes for weird populist Brexit reasons (trying and succeeding in outflanking UKIP)

unreal path
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It’s because a lot of politicians don’t have backbones

silk iron
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we're in a weird situation where neither Labour nor the Conservative hold up to their original political values, and both parties are fractured into infighting factions.

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meanwhile the Lib dems farm up seats in by-elections

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Problem is, the older generation, and the media, will never associate labour as a conservative party, and the youth and getting more and more left wing

silk iron
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from disenfranchised tory voters.

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so labour gets torn in half

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trying to replicate blair

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the youth split off the lib dems / greens

unreal path
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Does the UK have a Green Party?

split aurora
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the oldies vote tory / ukip / reform

split aurora
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Oh well there you go

silk iron
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the reason why blair worked was because of the close relation between blair and brown

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they have 4% ish of the vote

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and 1/650 of the seats

silk iron
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brown was old social democract

unreal path
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That’s better than our Green Party

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0 seats

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green and SNP have about the same votes, 1 has 1 seat and one has about 45

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democracy!

unreal path
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SNP 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

silk iron
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well Green is kinda irrel, mainly because they have radical policies such as pacifism, anti-nuke and anti-nuclear power

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and first past the post is not fair to them

unreal path
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The scary thing is you wonder how much is being influenced by outside parties like Russia

silk iron
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if the Greens compromised on those policies they might be electable

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The green party is about the only one I could consider voting for

unreal path
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Anti nuclear power is so dumb for a green part :/

silk iron
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monster raving looney party?

unreal path
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Party

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Hey at least that’s more choices than I the US

silk iron
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anyway as i was saying Blair's government worked because the man was charismatic and he placated the unions with Prescot, and the left-wing of the party with Brown.

unreal path
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Where we have 0 left leaning parties

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SNP are okay but I'm not scottish

unreal path
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🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

silk iron
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SNP actually have competent leadership, but they're trying to split the union

unreal path
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I wonder what would have happened to brexit if they voted for independence

silk iron
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that would cause a lot of problems for my family who live between the lowlands and Northumbria

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I do wonder if scotland would be allowed in the EU

silk iron
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absolutely they would be

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Eh

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it requires unanimous

unreal path
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Well Spain is the problem

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and I can think of one nation

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yep

unreal path
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Because of Cartolnia (can’t spell mobile)

tired scaffold
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Catalonia

unreal path
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The nation that was like yep we are independent…on second thought

tired scaffold
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"We want to be independent"
"No"
"We're having a referendum"
"No"
"We're declaring independence"
"No"

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Catalonia and the Basque country

unreal path
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And plus Catalonia isn’t even the only region in Spain that they are worried about leaving

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Yep

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I mean I wish the peoples right to self determination under the UN charter was respected but :/ nope

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The Basque conflict, also known as the Spain–ETA conflict, was an armed and political conflict from 1959 to 2011 between Spain and the Basque National Liberation Movement, a group of social and political Basque organizations which sought independence from Spain and France. The movement was built around the separatist organization ETA, which had ...

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There’s also those islands

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Although the debate on Basque independence started in the 19th century, the armed conflict did not start until ETA was created in 1959. Since then, the conflict resulted in the deaths of more than 1,000 people, including police and security officers, members of the armed forces, Spanish politicians, journalists and civilians and some ETA members. There also were thousands of people injured, dozens kidnapped and a disputed number going into exile, either to flee from the violence or to avoid capture by Spanish or French police or by Europol/Interpol.

unreal path
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What are the islands called

split aurora
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Balearics?

unreal path
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Starts with a c I think

split aurora
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Oh

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canaries

unreal path
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Ye

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They have a movement as well

split aurora
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aka. the british holiday resorts

silk iron
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I luv bein an expat, i do

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luv me a bit uh sun

unreal path
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Then you have other independent movements where it’s like yay independent then nom

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Crimea and Russia

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Lasted a bit longer than Catalonia at least

tired scaffold
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hmmm

unreal path
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Something like 3 hours or something

silk iron
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there's peaceful democratic independence movements, there's violent uprising kinds, and then there's the foreign backing proxy war kinds.

unreal path
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Yep

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brb going to wales and voting Plaid Cyrmu

silk iron
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bruh

unreal path
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The sad thing is all 3 can have a legit group of people wanting independence but they are just pawns

silk iron
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most nations who have achieved independence have done so with outside backing

unreal path
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There’s also the one region in England that’s wanting to be accepted as a Nation in the UK

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And they have such a cool flag

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Cornwall?

silk iron
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the notable exceptions being the collapse of the British and French empires after the Suez crisis

split aurora
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Northumbria?

unreal path
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Cornwall

silk iron
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the north east is only after autonomy

split aurora
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The Northern Independence Party (NIP) is a secessionist and democratic socialist political party that seeks to make Northern England an independent nation, under the name of Northumbria.

unreal path
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(no)

silk iron
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not gonna happen lol

split aurora
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their economy is based off pasties and ice cream

unreal path
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The vid is mainly about them getting inference from England not the UK

silk iron
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Prince Charles can't afford to lose his estates

unreal path
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INDEPENDENCE AUTOCORRECT PLZ

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not inference

silk iron
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sure I could maybe see further decentralisation and recognition of the duchy of Cornwall as a separate part of the union

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but also no

unreal path
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Yeah that’s mainly what they want to be recognized as a country of the UK

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Instead of a county in England

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Since they do have a different language and culture

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I mean I bet there are some that are thinking about independence fully

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And maybe more of Scotland becomes independent kinda like with Wales

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(A tiny bit more not huge)

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Then you have the City of London doing it’s own thing inside of London

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👀

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call that a Screenshot

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New photos and a video of the damaged Russian cruiser Moskva appear to show that it was probably struck by anti-ship missiles and then abandoned before the ship sank in the Black Sea. In the images, which analysts have said appear to be genuine, a plume of black smoke is seen rising from a heavily damaged Moskva, which was reported to have been ...

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it is true

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that's the real pic

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Nice

fierce arch
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in other news: roughly 11% of ukraine's population have left

hollow hollow
fierce arch
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well

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howitzers

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we know that

hollow hollow
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i mean are they self-propelled guns or towed guns

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and are they newer guns or ones the army just had in reserve storage

lilac sparrow
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artillery is the one thing that the army is yet to update, so i dont think it ill be a m777, more than likely m198 even though the picture is of a m777

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they did say it was a 155mm so it could be either a m777 or a m198

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and i doubt there will be any self propelled

copper monolith
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expecting most of them to increase by a lot in the next few days now that the 2nd onslaught started

limber wagon
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Yeah

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I think we've already seen a minor increase the past week or so, but its probably gonna get bigger again

copper monolith
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Hm an idea, since it's getting very populated, how about splitting the table into 2, phase 1 and phase 2, which started yesterday

limber wagon
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Could try that yeah. Maybe 3 phases instead? The initial, post retreat and now

copper monolith
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Ye

limber wagon
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Plus I also want to make a proper weekly graph that doesn't require me to do a lot of work for each new week.

copper monolith
stark inlet
copper monolith
split aurora
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US Army tanks

lilac sparrow
split aurora
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use windows XP

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they pay Microsoft to keep supporting windows xp

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older tech is reliable and isn't gonna have updates that risk breaking things

stark inlet
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xp =/= vista

split aurora
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Its the same principle

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Windows 10 is good and all then your pc needs to update while enemy fighters are overhead

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or the update quietly breaks part of your tracking

lilac sparrow
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US army computers are windows 10 but they are never connected to the internet so they’ll never update

split aurora
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"if its not broken, don't fix it"

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is the important thing here

stark inlet
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I mean yea sure, using old OS has its merits, many industrial companies still use XP on computers connected to e.g. CNC milling machines

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But vista is a uh

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A peculiar choice

split aurora
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I mean yeah thats fair vista is generally rewarded as wank

leaden grove
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Vista was very weird back when I used it

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XP is better tbh

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I first got a home computer 2015

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which was win7

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Though I have experience on XP because the local library used XP up till it shut down in 2018

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lmao

copper monolith
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i had just realised what's on the tank lmao

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just a random Russian UAV near Chernihiv https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1516347275538272260

Під час прочісування території Чернігівського району, патрулями НГУ було виявлено російський БПЛА, який здійснював розвідку території поблизу одного з населених пунктів. За невідомих причин з літальним апаратом було втрачено зв'язок і він впав на землю.

#бпла #нгу #Chernihiv

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it's intact too, apparently the orcs lost contact with it and it fell

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❗️На Печерську знайшли розтяжку

Її натягнули поміж сухого гілля та прикріпили предмет, схожий на гранату. Це побачив перехожий під час прогулянки вулицею Госпітальною. Він викликав поліцію.

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Other languages included are French, Spanish, ISL, German, Italian, Mandarin Chinese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Arabic, Tamil and Portuguese.
The module is aimed at 3rd to 6th class and the school can select the language of choice - dependent on different factors - with a grant of up to €400 per class to a maximum of €1,600 available to participating schools.
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That's pretty cool

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giving kids a taster and basic understanding of other languages

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The most important thing ukraine needs right now is heavy weaponry

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Saw this in the store, "all proceeds from sold items with Ukrainian attributes will be donated to Ukraine and it's people"

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these are tshirts

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A giant plume of smoke has been seen rising above the Azovstal steel plant in the besieged Ukrainian city of Mariupol. Russian forces advanced after calling on Ukrainians encamped in the plant to lay down their arms by noon Moscow time. The port city has been left devastated by near constant bombardment since the start of the war, which has left...

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By donor GDP

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Still nice to see that Estonia is willing to donate their share

copper monolith
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based Estonia

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ah what lovely t-shirts

paper cedar
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I'm surprised US is 6th

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For Poland it makes sense why it is 2nd

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but why is Estonia going full in?

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I didn't know they were that close together with Ukraine

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more despise russia

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due to uh, history

paper cedar
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ah that makes sense

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The USA's GDP is like, 21000 Billion dollars

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estonias is like 31

paper cedar
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yeah that's why I'm surprised US being 6th

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It's a good measure of how much people are contributing based on their means

paper cedar
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yeah and seems like US does to be contributing quite good to them

lilac sparrow
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The top contributors are mainly the nations near them, as well as a couple of thr highest gdp nations like US and Germany

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Them as in Russia

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Bit tired

leaden grove
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Scholz is giving an interview now

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Uhh, he didn’t really say anything new

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Supposedly Ukraine will be given a list to order military equipment from

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But when asked about the delivery of heavy arms Scholz only talked about the possibility of other countries delivering artillery

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So how is Donbas

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fighting, lots of fighting

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russians captured a city

copper monolith
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The airplane MH17 got shot down. 298 dead 193 of which were dutch

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At the time Russia didnt want to grant access to the crash site and it was later revealed that the government was even planning on sending in a force of about 1000 people if they kept getting denied access. Though it never came to that.

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(MH17 was shot down by russian backed/armed rebels in the donbass, to be specific)

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what the fuck

leaden grove
split aurora
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sigh

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fed up of old men politicians

split aurora
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wow

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thats a hell of a blast

copper monolith
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there won't be anything left to bury after that kind of explosion, sad really

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they've been planning to do that for months