#the_ukraine_situation

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split aurora
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he got the nickname "MazeSpin" because he kept spinning his f1 car race after race

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but yeah, fuck him and sanction him

split aurora
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James is a brit in a volunteer unit

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been tweeting regularly since he went over

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his unit was almost entirely funded their arms by donations

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this woman's pedalled kremlin propaganda for 8years

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and is now embedded in german media

fierce arch
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the EVIL us and their EVIL nato with the EVIL intent to protect nations from countries like russia

unreal path
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NO ONE IS WANTING TO INVADE RUSSIA

hollow hollow
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now russia is actually weaker and nato is actually stronger

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and more people want to join nato

unreal path
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if they had to resort to WMDs that just shows how crap their military is ablobunamused like Russia this is just sad at this point, give up

split aurora
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Chemical weapons aren't wmd's

unreal path
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A weapon of mass destruction (WMD) is a nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological, or any other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to numerous individuals or cause great damage to artificial structures (e.g., buildings), natural structures (e.g., mountains), or the biosphere. The scope and usage of the term has evolved and been disputed, often signifying more politically than technically. Originally coined in reference to aerial bombing with chemical explosives during World War II, it has later come to refer to large-scale weaponry of warfare-related technologies, such as chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear warfare.

split aurora
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brinf significant harm to numerous individuals and cause great damage to artifical structures

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Some chemical weapons fall into this yea

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others dont

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some chemical weapons are WMDs but not all

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Its an important distinction

unreal path
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bring significant harm to numerous individuals or cause great damage

split aurora
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for example, tear gas

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is a chemical weapon

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yet that fits not a single requirement of WMDs

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and is illegal in warfare

unreal path
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I mean I'm just saying if Russia used it would most likely would be a WMD

split aurora
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Unlikely

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imo

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well, depends where you draw the line

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but I doubt it'd be anything of significant magnitude, or harm beyond what a big bomb can do

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I don't think they'll go to Syria level biochemical weapons yet

unreal path
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I mean if its something where you want to take over a city, chemical weapons are better than anything explosive

split aurora
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at least, I hope

split aurora
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bomb the homes and shelters

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gas the exposed people in the ruins

unreal path
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yeah but why damage property you could use after you take over the city

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the only real reason to do both is for shock and awe

split aurora
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because... you can't take a city without destroying building

unreal path
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I mean you can

split aurora
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well

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not against he levels of resistance in ukraine

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when a large part of the populace is willing to give lifr and limb and withstand weeks and weeks of siege

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urban war is hell

unreal path
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the biggest issue with chemical weapons is making sure you don't hit yourself

split aurora
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Russia used the combo in Syria, levelling cities and chemical attacks

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to horrific resilts

unreal path
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fun fact did you know Russia announced to the OPCW that it's entire chemical weapons stockpile was destroyed in 2017 - _- yeah either they were lying or they were telling the truth...then

split aurora
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hmmmm

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somehow I doubt that

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lmfao

unreal path
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also little fun fact

split aurora
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like half the nations in green will still have a major stockpile

unreal path
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ofc North Korea didn't sign it

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I mean I don't believe Russia's for a second, but umm...US why is it 91%?

split aurora
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'murica moment

unreal path
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I like how the deadline was 2012 but it says intends by 2023...bruh

split aurora
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hang on

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@unreal path look at the Wikipedia page for he OPCW

unreal path
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I know my assignment was due today but I'll turn it in 11 years :)

split aurora
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their budget

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€69.69 million/year

unreal path
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wait it only has 500 staff?

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(all states party to the CWC are automatically members. 4 UN Member States are non-members: Egypt, Israel, North Korea and South Sudan)

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bruh

split aurora
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lmao

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those 4 don't surprise me

unreal path
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I mean South Sudan is still new give them a break XD

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joking ofc

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fun fact: South Sudan turns 11 this year

buoyant sundial
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Oh my it would seem that literally everyone legally using discord is older than South Sudan.

unreal path
fierce arch
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do you think anyone there can afford a phone

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who would they tweet to

vast gyro
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i wonder where those soldiers who went into Chernobyl are now

leaden grove
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The issue is that even if other countries buy those tanks, the ministry of the interior still has to approve it (which isn’t an issue), as well as Chancellor Scholz (which is an issue)

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And Scholz has been consistently vetoing any kind of arms sale

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Mainly on the grounds that "heavy equipment requires training"

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I talked to a German soldier yesterday and he told me that they could easily train Ukrainian tank drivers to drive the Leopard tanks in a matter of weeks

scarlet crown
viral junco
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Genuinely fuck scholz

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People are dying due to his impartiality

copper monolith
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the curse of having 40% of your gas come from a dictatorship

copper monolith
limber wagon
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A lot of Anti Aircraft stuff destroyed today.

copper monolith
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nice

copper monolith
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Ukrainian marines defending Mariupol came out with a public statement criticizing President Volodymyr Zelensky and the army command. The 36th Marine Brigade accused the country’s leadership of abandoning them in the besieged port city with no ammunition left, saying that it might be their last day of fighting. “For over […]

paper cedar
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Oh my

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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Gee how'd that happen

mighty tusk
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this is clickbait fr

"mass purge" -> "arrested" -> "some arrested, most fired"

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i know purge isnt technically incorrect in this sentence but it sounds like you know

Murder

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anywho, good news

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this feels like the closest we'll get until Putin loses that he feels he is fucked

split aurora
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o7

raven fossil
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Fighting till the very end.. my god

split aurora
scarlet crown
copper monolith
viral junco
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yep

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my main fear is orban going to block because he doesnt have to worry about reelection

copper monolith
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orban can choke on his russian gas if he wants, it's countries like italy and germany that are Russia's biggest clients

viral junco
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remember the scumbag protests in berlin?

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apparently there were some pro russian gobshites on irish roads today

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"Z"s and all

copper monolith
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cc @scarlet crown KEKW

scarlet crown
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wheeze just saw it a while ago

copper monolith
molten tartan
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man

scarlet crown
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|| https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/4895 || what in the everloving fuck ||(cw: mentions of rape)||

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copper monolith
copper monolith
scarlet crown
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Barely even that

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Same kind of papers were made back in ww2 by nazi germans

copper monolith
viral junco
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putin is aware that russia is losing population fast due to brain drain and a worsening crisis

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so it seems theyre trying to focribly keep things up

viral junco
copper monolith
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Russian T-72, Mariupol

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@Osinttechnical 4 U.S. Code § 8 (k) "The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning."

  • Perhaps a Ukrainian can help dispose of this desecrated flag with a Javelin, sure makes a nice target.
dull crane
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huh

copper monolith
dull crane
scarlet crown
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ah yes, and no one is going to notice the Zs

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genius

molten tartan
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Do you think they're going to break through to Kherson?

clear creek
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So is Ukrain gonne re deploy troops from the north ore is it gonne focus on protecting

copper monolith
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most def sending some forces to the east and south, now that russia is fucking off in the north

viral junco
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of course this could also partially be a potential distraction

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with a sizable force going to kyiv

clear creek
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So how many sections of the geneva conventions hafe not been broken by now

stark inlet
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'Video appears to show two Russian coastal defence missile systems driving past a sign to Helsinki'

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Yea good luck, finland currently has the biggest artillery force in eu

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Combined with very few roads and a shitload of swamps/forests around the fin-rus border

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Winter war, except this time finns wont run out of supplies

scarlet crown
icy ridge
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So ....Russia as Defaulted?

scarlet crown
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on foreign debts for now

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the effects will be truly felt near may

scarlet crown
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breathe while you can, cockroach

wicked panther
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I knew them brits were up to somethin

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what an idiot he is

lilac sparrow
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It’s always the British

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Can’t trust a them

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Probably why they always play a villain in the movies

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Except when they fake an American accent, then they are the good guy

scarlet crown
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https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/2571 we fucking caught him folks 👏

molten tartan
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RUN LADS

viral junco
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glad they grabbed the fucking coward

hollow hollow
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ladies and gentlemen, we got him

scarlet crown
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do you realise how valuable this cunt is

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there's so much we can do

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intel, pow trade

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amazing work

hollow hollow
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honestly i doubt putin would be willing to give anything up to get him back, but it could be great for propaganda and such

viral junco
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whats notable is stammering and stuttering

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the strongman image is cracking at the seams, not that many who are encompassed by the propaganda machine will notice but it is significant even if slight

split aurora
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fucking about

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finding out

scarlet crown
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sooooo

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yea buddy

split aurora
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The fact he both fled house arrest

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and tried to disguise in a ukranian military uniform

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is a pretty good indicator of guilt

scarlet crown
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as if controlling most if not all pro-kremlin parties wasn't enough guilt

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either way, he's a very valuable trophy

split aurora
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That, in and of itself, isn't a crime... but yeah I would not be surprised at all to find he's been committing treason

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when you have a politician like that, they're the kind of people you keep a close eye on

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and that seems to be what ukraines done

scarlet crown
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no shit sherlock

split aurora
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he released the game was up, tried to run

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and failed miserably

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now he's gonna enjoy getting fucked in court

unreal path
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have we heard any updates on the possible chemical weapons use?

haughty yew
unreal path
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oh OPCW gave a statement, that's not good

haughty yew
scarlet crown
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yeah it's pretty hard to confirm because the entire city is well

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Blocked off

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all we know is that soldiers got sick from whatever that attack was

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So i feel that it's very likely true

haughty yew
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Also, apparently America is expected to announce more aid for Ukraine soon

hollow hollow
wicked panther
leaden grove
# unreal path have we heard any updates on the possible chemical weapons use?

From what I‘ve read, there is simply a lack of evidence at this point. The best way to prove it would be a sample of the toxin or a blood sample, but judging from the symptoms and how it happened alone, it supposedly seems more likely that there was some sort of explosion in the steel plant they are hiding in which is full of chemicals anyways, or that phosphorus munitions were used

unreal path
leaden grove
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Yeah, though even if this is not a case of chemical weapons use, the potential is definitely there

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The Russian MoD has quite a few nerve agents in their arsenal

unreal path
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Oh yeah no doubts about that

leaden grove
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Also this just came out, and it‘s not just Scholz who is blocking arms deliveries, but his entire party

unreal path
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The one thing that does help is how close to Russia and Russian personnel it would be if they did unlike in Syria

leaden grove
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Politicians from the SPD are disagreeing on how to react to Ukraine‘s request for the delivery of heavy arms. Before one can think about such arms deliveries, one has to "clarify what strategic goal we are pursuing with this", the MP Joe Weingarten of the SPD party told the newspaper Welt. "Is it realistic to defeat Russia with German tanks in Ukraine?"
Weingarten stressed that Germany should not let itself "be forced into a war step by step"

leaden grove
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Also fun fact

unreal path
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That still shocks me like come on if something truly bad happens there that’s gonna effect the land you are trying to take - _-

leaden grove
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Weingarten and other MPs said that they‘d only be in favour of more arms deliveries if there was a chemical attack 😃

unreal path
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MPs of who?

leaden grove
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Germany‘s SPD party

unreal path
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  • _- bruh
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Can Germany make up its mind

leaden grove
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I find the "strategic goals" bit very funny too

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Like yes, what is their strategic goal?

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Because it’s clearly not a decisive Ukrainian victory

unreal path
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The goal of not being a total embarrassment maybe

leaden grove
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Seems like it

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Instead of saying what they could do, they always find reasons why they can’t do something

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At first it was that there are no tanks available

stone vigil
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Scholz & party stop being so fucking thick headed and send the aid

leaden grove
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Which was quickly denied by the arms manufacturers themselves

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And now the issue is that "tanks require training"

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Like no shit

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But they don’t want to provide training for some reason?

viral junco
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I love centrism! I love not doing anything because of impartiality!!!@

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Genuinely fucking tired of scholz

leaden grove
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b-b-but what if we hurt Russia‘s feelings 😢

viral junco
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This is modern Germany not East Germany no need to be nice to Russian aggression anymore

leaden grove
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Well

wicked panther
viral junco
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The spd are BEGGING to lose next election genuinely

leaden grove
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No no, Scholz always says that everything is going okay and that he‘s prepared

wicked panther
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Prepared for what?

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To lose?

leaden grove
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🤷‍♀️

leaden grove
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And a lot of people really don’t care

viral junco
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Even more of a reason to hate this incompetency

clear creek
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Morning how is the east

leaden grove
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Mainly new troop buildups

copper monolith
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⚡️General Staff: Crimea, four Russian regions on security alert.

According to Ukraine’s Armed Forces, authorities in four Russian regions and in Russian-occupied Crimea are stepping up security measures over what they said were “possible provocations” from the Ukrainian side.

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“These measures are probably carried out in order to organize the movement of military equipment, weapons and personnel into the territory of Ukraine,” Ukraine’s General Staff reports.

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very cool a new onslaught of russians in the south

leaden grove
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"While we understand the existential threat to Ukraine caused by the Russian invasion, I expect Ukrainian representatives to follow basic diplomatic etiquette [referring to the cancelled Steinmeier visit] and don‘t interfere with the domestic affairs of our country"

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The SPD is at it again

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Apparently asking for arms deliveries is a no-no

copper monolith
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wtf

leaden grove
leaden grove
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Macron is just… ugh

copper monolith
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man really wants to show that he's very undesirable and knows people would still vote for him because they don't want a far rightoid like Le Pen either

leaden grove
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Yep

viral junco
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@leaden grove what does this mean

leaden grove
viral junco
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i see

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what is he talking about in the video

leaden grove
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Hold on

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Basically the same thing as the tweet

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He says that he wanted to travel to Kyiv but that he‘s clearly not welcome there as of now

viral junco
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the spd's tweet whining about not having steinmaier allowed has tons of tweets hidden

leaden grove
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BTW I just watched a press conference with the Swedish and Finnish statsminister and they are both moving forward with the preparations for a NATO membership application

viral junco
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one image that has been hidden multiple times

leaden grove
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Lmaooo

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One hidden reply is basically "Today I woke up thinking the SPD would not ruin my day again but it‘s 10am and here we are"

viral junco
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another one was like "99% of spd voters be like"
"Could you take me out to dinner? cause i like getting wined and dined after being fucked"

leaden grove
viral junco
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picture speaks a thousand words

copper monolith
viral junco
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i meant the ivdeo

copper monolith
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o

split aurora
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what is it with any party even remotely left of centre and having a god awful policy on this war

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what does it take to realise you can't defeat russia with hugs and kisses

copper monolith
split aurora
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the UK leaves ukranian refugees to match with a host themselves.... leading to sexual exploitation and matching on unregulated social media groups

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😬

scarlet crown
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what in the actual fuck

viral junco
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fucks sake

scarlet crown
lilac sparrow
scarlet crown
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seems like we might get some heat forming in the south

scarlet crown
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our patrol went to check chernobyl's territory after russian retreat and found out how these dogs used to live there

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they really did dig trenches in radioactive territories

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ate whatever they could find

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tried to make a fucking porridge out of coffee beans

split aurora
scarlet crown
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man

scarlet crown
copper monolith
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😔

split aurora
stark inlet
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Ill take your entire stock

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For 5 bucks

copper monolith
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lmao

leaden grove
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Scholz just announced that he has no plans to travel to Kyiv

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And both the SPD and the FDP are against a visit now

copper monolith
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man

clear creek
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Has anyting come up from the ghost of kyiv resently

copper monolith
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just a myth to bolster morale

scarlet crown
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yea

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but it's one hell of a cool myth

leaden grove
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New conspiracy theory on Russian TV: supposedly there are "secret biolabs in the tunnels of Mariupol"

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Because yes, makes perfect sense

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I don’t think any of those people have ever seen what an actual lab looks like

clear creek
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so is secret bio labs the new go to pro Russia argument cuz its a pretty weak one

leaden grove
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Yes, that’s their explanation for why the remaining soldiers in Mariupol won’t give up, they "have to protect those labs"

clear creek
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why not Blow them up........

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like woudend that cover evryting up

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and keep the wool over the eyes of the sheepal

hushed magnet
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dont you love being the US and also placing biolabs in underground tunnels in a country on another continent right next to one of your biggest political opponents?

clear creek
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never mind that there hero Trump did not stop these bio labs

scarlet crown
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"oh they must have breached the hidden biolab and got sick!"

split aurora
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Latest US defense aid package for Ukraine as just announced by the Pentagon. Included are 11 Mi-17 Russian-built helicopters originally earmarked for but not transferred to Afghanistan; 5 were trf'd earlier. Package also includes 18 155mm howitzers, the 1st transfer of artillery

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@scarlet crown

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200 APCs

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300 switchblade drones

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Unmanned "costal defence vessels" - not 100% sure what this entails

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America holding absolutely nothing back

scarlet crown
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HOHOHOOOOO

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NOW WE'RE TALKING

leaden grove
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Niceeeeee

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That‘s genuinely awesome

split aurora
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they're some thicc howitzers

leaden grove
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From what I‘ve read those will be easier to replenish in terms of munition

hollow hollow
copper monolith
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the 11 mi-17 helis and unmanned vessels are interesting too

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also that's a very long way of writing 100 humvees lmao

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the AN/TPQ-36 will be quite useful in finding out where Russians are firing their artillery cuz they just can't stop using that shit, though there is a desire for there being more because of that

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sound is a bit scuffed but interesting still https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tbU5W-96eY

After the war started, the Kyiv Independent staff found itself scattered around Ukraine. Several reporters stayed in Kyiv, while the rest of staff moved to safer locations in central and western Ukraine. As Russians withdrew from the Kyiv region, allegedly to focus on an offense in eastern Ukraine, people started returning to Kyiv — including so...

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why do thumbnails for all Kyiv Independent links always break

leaden grove
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The video is worth watching

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She literally complains about the right to free speech being a part of the constitution

copper monolith
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the only gif I can put in response to whatever shit this batshit insane broad said

leaden grove
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Lmao yes

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Her drummer monologue fits so well

steady matrix
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For those who live in Sweden or Finland: is there any strong sentiment to join NATO or to cooperate more with them, with the increased Russian hostility to it’s neighbors?

copper monolith
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fuck I clicked no on ping reply 😔

solid adder
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uhhhh well I think currently, if Finland joins then Sweden will too

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they say we gonna join in June

scarlet crown
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i remember watching one interview and I heard a pretty good point

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russians will have to endure what Moses did to jews

solid adder
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"Both countries are officially non-aligned militarily, but public support for Nato membership has almost doubled since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, to about 50% in Sweden and 60% in Finland, multiple opinion polls suggest."
according to Guardian atleast

scarlet crown
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only then there'll be a change

leaden grove
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Popular support is a lot higher in Finland, though Sweden is catching up

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There was a press conference with the Swedish and Finnish PMs earlier today where they detailed their plans for future cooperation

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You can expect things to move forward very quickly after Easter

solid adder
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I barely look at swedish news

copper monolith
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one of them mentioned applying in like June or July

leaden grove
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I try to keep up with news in the Baltic Sea region

leaden grove
scarlet crown
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hollow hollow
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this is a crushing blow if true

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btw that's the ship that was told to fuck itself

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and it's the flagship of the black sea fleet

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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it's on Wikipedia too

split aurora
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👀

copper monolith
# hollow hollow oh my god https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/u2z22s/russian_war...

Ukrainian military hit Russia cruiser Moskva, which is the same warship that has been told by Snake Island defenders to go fuck itself. It was hit with Neptune anti-ship cruise missile that was developed by Kyiv based Luch Design Bureau in 2014-2020

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split aurora
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bee bee cee

hollow hollow
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LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

copper monolith
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L

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moscow sunk

split aurora
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This means both Russia and Ukraines flagships

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have been caught in this war

hollow hollow
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if not sunk it'll at least be in drydock for the remainder of the conflict

split aurora
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one badly damaged, one at the bottom of the sea

hollow hollow
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assuming the magazine really did blow up tho, the ship probably is sunk. that's basically the worst thing that can happen to a warship like that, it's what happened to the uss arizona in pearl harbor

split aurora
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lets hope it is sunk 🙏

scarlet crown
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just in time with official launch of "russian warahip go f yourself" postmarks

copper monolith
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Russkies have 25 days to get a "victory" before their annual jerkoff session on the red square

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Let's hope they fail spectacularly

hollow hollow
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heard they want a “victory” parade in mariupol too

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tb2s and swtichblades are licking their chops at that news

steady matrix
crude depot
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huh

limber wagon
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Apparently the Russian Orlan drones are using Canon camera's for optics. Just the whole thing. As in literally a consumer grade camera attached to the thing with the buttons glued shut

crude depot
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i mean

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its something that has a high probability of getting shot down

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so I doubt you'd want to use some high tech stuff on it

limber wagon
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Its an 80k to 120k system and they're using a consumer grade camera

crude depot
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which means you gotta cut costs somewhere

leaden grove
split aurora
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The Neptune 2 missiles are pretty new, wonder how many ukraine has

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Given we've only seen this strike quite a bit into the war, i imagine not too many, and they've jut been sat waiting for the opportune moment to strike

viral junco
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And guess what's the country which had most of the user ships built?

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Ukraine

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On paper it also means they know ships better

split aurora
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Russian defence ministry reports a full evacuation of the ship

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as do western sources

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Soooo that suggests it might be on a trip to davy jones' locker

limber wagon
split aurora
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🙏

wicked panther
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what da flagship doin

leaden grove
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Getting some eternal rest by the looks of it

split aurora
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(video)

stark inlet
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Meanwhile ukrainians are still spawnkilling russian aircrafts in kherson

limber wagon
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Dunno if there were any aircrafts there, but they set up a base there

limber wagon
copper monolith
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lmao

limber wagon
viral junco
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Our foreign minister is in kyiv

copper monolith
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ye

copper monolith
copper monolith
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hm

viral junco
split aurora
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man its depressing how the UK is being massively outclassed by half the world for helping ukranians

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even ireland is doing monumentally more

copper monolith
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UK trying to have the worst fucking refugee policy on the continent

scarlet crown
copper monolith
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GWvertiPeepoSalute congratulations to the captain on this moisty promotion

split aurora
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asylum seekers that arrive here / are already here are being sent on one way flights to camps in rwanada

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I wish I was making this up

copper monolith
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ye that's what im referring to

split aurora
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ah

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It's gonna cost us £1.4bn as well, it doesnt even make sense monetarily

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its just "racists don't like seeing black people so we send black people to african sounding place make racists happy"

split aurora
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meanwhile le prime minister is about to get his 2nd fine for breaking the law

scarlet crown
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oi bruv goohd day, lawd praise duh queen

split aurora
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😔

scarlet crown
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god this video gives me highs

split aurora
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you can actually see the flash

scarlet crown
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to be continued ==>

split aurora
leaden grove
split aurora
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glad it failed there

hollow hollow
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also the front of the ship isn't the right shape

copper monolith
#

hm

split aurora
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ik the report was stormy, the "night" may be due to reporting time delay

split aurora
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im struggling to find rear sided images

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ah there we are

copper monolith
#

hm

scarlet crown
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take it with a grain of salt then

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pretty fucking sick if true

split aurora
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eitherway

hollow hollow
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yeah the radar mast is way different in the video

split aurora
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Turkey+Romania reporting sinking

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no hard evidence of either

scarlet crown
#

fog of war moment

hollow hollow
copper monolith
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idk what a ciw mount is rtgameDread

hollow hollow
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moskva had at least 6 30mm ciws guns afaik

split aurora
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@hollow hollowApparently the Moskva only has 180 degree radar, and was distracted by an overhead drone

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on the opposite sid

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but take that with a pinch of salt

fierce arch
copper monolith
fierce arch
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nothing at all

split aurora
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whether its at the bottom of the ocean or not, we know for certain it was stuck, and suffered damages triggering a full evacuation, partially by civilian vessels

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we know thats significant damage

hollow hollow
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even if the ship survived and is being towed to drydock, the damage caused by the attack is gonna be really sobering for those who see it

split aurora
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enough that, even if still afloat, it's certainly not gonna be in action anytime soon

hollow hollow
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might make some people rethink what's actually happening

split aurora
fierce arch
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the falklands

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LOL

split aurora
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(Joshi = Defence Editor, The economist, UK paper)
(Patalano, British professor of naval affairs)

split aurora
clear creek
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Welp where gonne need another set of chairs soon on the NATO defence meating tabel

limber wagon
split aurora
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zoomin

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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didnt they just say ammo detonated in it

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thus the fire

lilac sparrow
leaden grove
unreal path
hollow hollow
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pentagon spokesman said moskva is still floating but severely damaged

lilac sparrow
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Sounds about right, it takes a lot to sink a warship

hollow hollow
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also said they can’t confirm what caused the damage

lilac sparrow
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A critically damaged ship can survive for several hours before sinking fully

limber wagon
limber wagon
limber wagon
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oh

split aurora
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videos disputed

limber wagon
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yeah, that makes a lot of sense

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Sadge

split aurora
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good ol fog of war

viral junco
scarlet crown
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stg they're (Russia) a living joke yet they keep everyone at stress cuz of nuclear weaponry

split aurora
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I like how it went from threatening invasion

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and now just

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"we move nukes closer"

leaden grove
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I mean, there‘s still the ominous "military-technical response" threat

lilac sparrow
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I can see Finland being a bit of a problem, there extremely close to a major Russian city, meaning we only need to place SRBMs to threaten them which we have an abundance of

viral junco
leaden grove
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That has been an issue for ages already, and was purportedly one of the reasons for the Winter War

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Short summary of the message there: supposedly there was an attack from Ukraine on a village near Belgorod with no civilian casualties

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According to TASS the attack was carried out using attack helicopters

scarlet crown
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yeah and a while before that they established terrorist threat zones in regions bordering with Ukraine

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something ain't right

low rover
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Canada is sending 100 soldiers to Ukraine
Does that seem small to anyone else, or is that just me?

lofty wind
#

oh for sure

copper monolith
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why is it sending soldiers to ukraine

low rover
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To assist in defending Ukraine i assume

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But still, it’s such a minute amount

split aurora
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wha

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imma need a link on that

low rover
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100 soldiers is not enough

split aurora
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no country has send soldiers into ukraine

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thats an act of war

low rover
copper monolith
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Russia's gonna see that as a provocation and a declaration of war if Canada's actually sending it's soldiers to fight Russia

low rover
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Check BBC news if you cam

split aurora
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Imma wait to hear this before I believe it

low rover
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From what i can gather, they aren’t there to assist in the war, rather help refugees

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So i was wrong on the war part

split aurora
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Only twitter thing I can see

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from 1min ago

copper monolith
#

yeah that seems more realistic

low rover
split aurora
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be careful with words

low rover
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Everyone makes mistakes, and i corrected myself

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I apologize for my screw up

copper monolith
#

that will be 15 pushups and cleaning the dishes for the next day

low rover
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Cbc*

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God i even got the news station wrong ch_pixelsigh

copper monolith
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oh yeah I can go to their website

low rover
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Alright

low rover
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I don’t get why embed fail is a thing tbh, but that’s off topic

split aurora
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They're going to poland instead, thats good

low rover
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At least they aren’t there to assist in ending more lives
This conflict is horrible for both sides in my eyes

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I’ll take my leave now, i’ll update on the Canada thing if i can

scarlet crown
#

can we not start the "i don't want any death" narrative again

viral junco
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Yeah don't start that, please

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it's one massive fucking country invading a peaceful nation, it's only horrible for the smaller one

copper monolith
silk iron
#

how're things going?

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I've been avoiding the news for a bit

scarlet crown
#

it's all pretty much stalled for now

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from bigger news, we managed to hit Moskva warship

silk iron
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Heard the Russians were resupplying and planning a re-offensive on the eastern front in a new attempt to secure the Donbass.

viral junco
#

worlds biggest superyacht got seized in germany

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owned by Usmanov's sister

silk iron
#

Some news stories said the Moskva warship was the flag ship for the blacks sea's fleet...

scarlet crown
#

and it is

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and we fucking struck it

silk iron
#

wow a lot of conflicting stories on the Moskva ship sinking/capsizing/ammunition blowing up.

scarlet crown
#

it's still not fully known if it sunk or if it's just badly damaged

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but it's one hell of a blow

silk iron
#

it damages the Russian navies morale no doubt, but the Russians will still have naval superiority over the black sea.

scarlet crown
#

no one is doubting the superiority, but it's definitely less powerful now

leaden grove
copper monolith
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lmao

leaden grove
#

Apart from their ability to launch missiles and to deny the sky to Ukrainian aircraft, the Russian fleet mainly manages to halt international trade

hollow hollow
#
the Guardian

Ukraine claims responsibility for attack on flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, though Moscow says cause of explosion yet to be determined

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they still can’t confirm that neptune missiles caused the damage

viral junco
copper monolith
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👀

copper monolith
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L

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god damn kremlin throwing mostly minorities at the meat grinder

silk iron
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a minority group not wanting to be drafted into a foreign war started by the majority group...

copper monolith
leaden grove
wicked panther
copper monolith
wicked panther
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whos gonna tell them animal farm is based on the ussr

hollow hollow
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some extra info on the weapons the us is sending to ukraine under the new deal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_Hps5qccg

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copper monolith
warm marsh
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Don't know if it's been said already here, but Sweden announced that they're gonna apply for NATO membership somewhere in June, while Finland is still deciding on whether or not to do so (though will reach a decision in the weeks ahead).

copper monolith
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ye we know

split aurora
copper monolith
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TASS is the source, let's goooo Poog

hollow hollow
copper monolith
#

smh soda man

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coolcon beat u to the good news 😎

scarlet crown
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HAHAHAHAHAAAAHH

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this shit is even funnier than initial claims

copper monolith
scarlet crown
#

it didn't even sink from an attack

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but from getting towed away

hollow hollow
wicked panther
scarlet crown
#

but they're WAYY more careful now

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there's reports of other ships backing off so the story won't repeat with them

copper monolith
scarlet crown
#

HAHAHHHAH

hollow hollow
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also worth noting that there's now a slava cruiser-shaped hole in the black sea's air defenses. moskva carried 64 s300 missiles , 40 osa missiles, and 6 ciws mounts. if i were a russian sailor i'd be shitting bricks rn

copper monolith
#

L

scarlet crown
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god

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amazing effort from our forces

wicked panther
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Hear hear good job

fierce arch
viral junco
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he already has them in kalningrad

fierce arch
#

i think i read somewhere where he plans to put them in the baltics

hollow hollow
#

if this dude wants to destroy the world he should just get it over with fr

viral junco
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if he wants to put em in the baltics he cant

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they are nato nations

fierce arch
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serbia exists

viral junco
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it will lead to direct warfare

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thats the balkans

fierce arch
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fuck me

viral junco
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no

fierce arch
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not like that

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please don't interpret it like that

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another

lilac sparrow
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Wait did the Moskva sink?

fierce arch
#

ye

lilac sparrow
#

-15% war support

unreal path
#

am I late to the party but I just got a notification saying the damaged flagship has sunk

lilac sparrow
#

Wait was the Moskva the same ship that fired on snake island after the soldiers there said “go F*** yourself”

unreal path
#

that would be amazing if so

viral junco
#

tis

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it is that ship

stark inlet
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o7

unreal path
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ablobrollingeyes oh shut up Belarus

stark inlet
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Ship's just rendezvousing with the VDV

silk iron
#

If you're interested in the economic consequences of the war for Ukraine this Guardian article is fairly good

leaden grove
silk iron
#

1 ) Ukraine expects a 45% reduction in GDP with 10% population reduction (from emigration/deaths)
2 ) Russia's GDP is forecast to shrink 11.2%, also reports of increased emigration and a brain drain (can't find estimates yet tho)
3) Other countries in Eastern Europe, particularly those not part of the EU will also see their GDP shrink a similar amount.

leaden grove
#

It’s an empty threat

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And I think that Andersen and Marin put it well, no matter what they do, that action will have its drawbacks

leaden grove
silk iron
#

Both countries' economies are likely to decline further. But the most destructive phase, where the Russian forces failed to surround Kyiv in the first 2 weeks of the war, is over.

leaden grove
#

I wouldn’t be so sure about that

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We‘ve yet to see the impact of the purported Donbas offensive that is highly likely to happen soon

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And there is significant speculation that the need for a "victory" by May 9 might result in some more drastic action being taken too

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Not to mention that the sinking of the Moskva won’t be taken lightly and more missile strikes are likely to follow

silk iron
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ofc I'm speculating here, but I would assume the area of conflict will be limited to the eastern oblasts for the new offensive and most of the devastation in the east has already taken it's hit on the Ukrainian economy - that is most of the remaining economic strength of Ukraine now lies in the western oblasts.

leaden grove
#

I mean, yeah, most military movements will likely be focused on that region, though as I‘ve mentioned cruise missiles will probably remain their weapon of the choice for the rest of the country

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There is a huge amount of uncertainty regarding what the offensive will exactly entail

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All we really know is that the recruitment efforts are very serious

silk iron
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I forgot to mention Odesa is critical for maintaining sea trade to the Ukrainian economy, hopefully the city will remain mainly unscathed (despite the blockade).

leaden grove
#

The blockade really is the main issue right now

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Along with the huge amount of sea mines

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Russian TV is still very focused on Mariupol

silk iron
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understandably, it's likely to fall soon and that'll be the morale boost their propaganda machine needs, nvm the city's near absolute devastation ofc.

leaden grove
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It’s tying a lot of forces down

leaden grove
silk iron
#

oh yes i've heard of that

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i was trying to determine if there was any grain of truth to it (like the azov battalion)

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but it's seems to be a complete fabrication

split aurora
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I've not seen anything to suggest truth

leaden grove
#

It is

split aurora
#

And, though this is absolutely not a scientific measure, it doesn't seem like the thing anyone would do

leaden grove
#

And even with countries that have biological warfare programmes, they wouldn’t be so dumb as to hide them under a city that‘s right next to a conflict zone

silk iron
#

Occam's razor principle* basically

split aurora
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Secret biolabs in underground tunnels, in a city that saw major fighting in 2014, a stone's toss from the 8year long war in donbass, in a town that houses the neo nazi azov battalion

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just doesn't make any sense why it'd be done

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like, at all

leaden grove
#

I mean, the actual bio weapons claims are not better either

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Like supposedly they trained birds to fly to Russia to spread a disease that only targets Russians…

silk iron
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haha

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boy you have to be gullible to believe that crap

leaden grove
#

Lots of people believe it

silk iron
#

welp

leaden grove
#

And ultimately, the main goal is not to make people believe anything in particular, but to make them believe nothing

silk iron
#

it's fine after all for the Russian state, so long as the people aren't denouncing the war or protesting against it - condoning it out of ambivalence, fear or ignorance is sufficient.

leaden grove
#

A lot of people in Russia believe that "regular people" should not mess with politics

silk iron
#

that's true to a lesser extent of most nations...

split aurora
#

propaganda in wartime goes down very well

silk iron
#

radical apoliticism

split aurora
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I mean, look at "Saddams WMDs" if you want a western version

leaden grove
#

That was a huge intelligence blunder

silk iron
#

well yes, but there was a very large war protest of 1million people back then (I believe Tony Benn raised sceptism over the WMD claims before the war started at those protests).

leaden grove
#

Though the CIA has plenty of experience with that in South America

silk iron
#

the intelligence blunder was not just a blunder

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it was quote 'sexed up' unquote

leaden grove
#

Mhm

split aurora
silk iron
#

WMD exaggerated for justification by British MI5 IIRC

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i can go dig out the source but, i'm sadly tired.

split aurora
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fair, twas just an example

silk iron
#

perhaps a political song inspired from the era would suffice instead

leaden grove
#

Before I sign off for the day, a bit of a Baltic perspective on the current situation

silk iron
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I was but a wee kid at the time so I only vaguely remember it

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it's not fun bordering Russia as any country atm that's for sure

molten tartan
#

IT SUNK

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IT SUNK

#

THE SWEET TASTE OF VICTORY

copper monolith
#

indeed

copper monolith
#

April 14 marks 50 days since Russia launched its brutal all-out war against Ukraine. Moscow’s unprovoked military aggression has already cost it approximately 19,900 servicemen and 5,260 units of weapons and other equipment, according to Ukraine’s government estimates. Russia hasn’t achieved any significant success in its offensive, having captu...

molten tartan
#

oh

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Obviously I do not like that some sailors will have been lost in that sinking but

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that is a huge hit to the Russians

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and a massive boost for Ukrainian morale

copper monolith
#

haven't seen any reports of sailors dying

molten tartan
#

Yes but

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I mean

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if it was harsh seas, even with ships tugging the boat

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I think there will have been casualties

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in any case

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That is great news, the pride of the russian fleet

viral junco
#

regardless the loss of the ship is huge

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big military and morale loss for the russians

copper monolith
#

and now they're raging by bombing Kyiv

viral junco
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and by doing so it will only make the ukranian people resent them further

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as well as everyone else

copper monolith
scarlet crown
#

literally

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they can't do anything else but rage-bomb

lilac sparrow
#

blame the storm and the incompetent sea bees

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those sea bees should have known to avoid storms and bad waters when tugging a critically damaged ship

unreal path
hollow hollow
split aurora
#

😔

#

War, war is hell

paper cedar
#

Wow, I expected more that survived

fierce arch
#

ukraine twitter is a goldmine

haughty yew
#

Seems like a good deal

snow pecan
#

ukraine twitter my beloved

leaden grove
#

I have a strong feeling that by "West" he means Western Europe

#

The East is just a buffer in that worldview

wicked panther
#

Germany lost its balls

viral junco
viral junco
split aurora
paper cedar
#

So when the war is over we can expect at least couple organizations trying to retrieve it back

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I wonder how big of a hunt that would be

split aurora
#

@paper cedar I mean

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its a couple mm piece of wood

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dropped into a sea larger then texas

scarlet crown
split aurora
#

...Good luck anyone trying to find that

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also there's millions of "true cross pieces"

paper cedar
#

I guess not then

molten tartan
#

This was a photo from the BBC on the live reports in Ukraine and I just

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It's eyes are facing the opposite way lmao

haughty yew
scarlet crown
#

some are already fighting

molten tartan
#

it appears a lot of Belarusians do not agree with their current leader

#

didn't he win via rigged election?

opal cloak
scarlet crown
#

just like putin really

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he's only a puppet

lilac sparrow
# opal cloak Sea Bees ?

Term for naval engineers, in the us they’re called Seabee because they’re the construction battalion (CB)

split aurora
#

course, russia now borders on qualifying for that too

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cope + seethe + mald + L

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man these people are mental lmfao

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(video has english subtitles)

viral junco
#

it was a special tidal operation smileW

opal cloak
split aurora
#

@viral junco

viral junco
#

probably due to bojo and the elections up north soon

split aurora
#

ye

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just thought was amusing :p

viral junco
#

1905 seems to be happening all over again

molten tartan
#

It's still so surreal that this has happened

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obviously it's not like conflicts have ever ended, but when it's somewhere like the Middle east or Asia it just never really took hold

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I didn't reallu think about it

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now it's a major conflict in Europe and it feels so dystopian

split aurora
#

I think it being on the news so much is what does that

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the wars in other countries barely make it onto the news

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whereas this is on every station every hour of the day

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you could go months not hearing about the ongoing genocide in South Sudan

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or the destruction in yemen

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but hearing about Bucha and the Donbass is a daily occurance

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compiled by the modern tendency of doonscrolling

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it feels massive and all encompassing, and does start to effect people mentally

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second-hand trauma, as I've seen it referred to

scarlet crown
#

rightfully so though

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we're pretty much holding off a bigger threat for the world here

leaden grove
split aurora
#

and the crimes and horror of war shown to the world

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same as it is important with other conflicts, though sadly, they don't get talked about

split aurora
#

especially if you live in Poland, or the baltics

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second hand trauma is a massive thing

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especially in times filled with so more worry and panic, with rising costs of living, and covid still rampant

scarlet crown
#

yep

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we all kinda

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forgot covid was even a thing

split aurora
#

yeeep

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rn I'm sat in the bath coughing like mad, whole families gotten it, thankfully none of us seriously ill

scarlet crown
#

hopefully it won't get harder

#

covid for my family went pretty weirdly

#

just like a generic flu

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me and my mother got well after 4 days of treatment and only my dad developed pneumonia

stark inlet
#

My closest relatives werent heavily affected

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But then one of my far uncles died because of it so

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all rng

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Also one of my friends got some nasty lung calcification after getting thru covid

split aurora
#

I got it first time march '20, had shortness of breath for 2montha or so after

stark inlet
#

And her lung capacity got reduced by 30% or so

split aurora
#

found I was panting for breath after walking 3 or 4km

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now, I'm not an athletic person, but I've never struggled for air walking a short distance like that before

molten tartan
#

this might give them justification to move more troops in

leaden grove
#

Hm?

molten tartan
#

and support from people in the army to move more troops in

leaden grove
#

Definitely

split aurora
scarlet crown
#

doesn't make any sense

split aurora
#

Russia has more then 75% its combat ready battlegroups involved in the war

leaden grove
#

Mainly reservists

molten tartan
#

^^

leaden grove
scarlet crown
#

It's just a reason to officially proclaim war instead of just special operation

split aurora
#

Thing is, you need time to organise battlegroups

leaden grove
#

There are many more soldiers spread throughout the country

molten tartan
#

Many people in Russia may now be supporting war more than they had, and more people may be willing to join the fight

split aurora
#

you can't create a battlegroup out of thin air

leaden grove
#

I don’t think that‘ll stop them from trying

split aurora
#

and someone "joining the army" won't be on the frontline for minimum 8weeks

split aurora
leaden grove
#

Yep

split aurora
#

marching uncoordinated men without equipment or proper training towards the enemies line

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helps nothing militarily

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like, all you'll see is a repeat of the somme

molten tartan
#

"Nuts!"

viral junco
#

walking directly at the enemy in a very slow fashion is not a good military manouvre yet the russians seem to insist on doing that

split aurora
#

since ww2

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Its more then Syria, Georgia, chechnya, Afghanistan

leaden grove
#

The thing is that the severity of the war hasn’t quite reached the public consciousness in Russia

split aurora
#

that takes time to set in, sadly

leaden grove
#

As daily life more or less goes on

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I doubt it‘ll set it in anytime soon unless you wait for the economy to collapse

#

Today‘s award for the worst article on the Ukraine war goes to Alice Schwarzer: https://www.emma.de/artikel/ukraine-krieg-frieden-jetzt-339355

Emma

Warum müssen täglich mehr Menschen sterben und Städte zerstört werden - wenn ein Kompromiss unvermeidlich ist? Warum wird der nicht jetzt gemacht? Und was ist mit den zwangsrekrutierten Männern zwischen 18 und 60? Und den flüchtenden Frauen und auf sie lauernden Menschenhändlern?

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Schwarzer basically argues that Ukraine should immediately give up the Donbas region, that there is no point in demonising Putin because Iraq and also clearly Ukraine is to blame and that Germany‘s foreign policy in the past was amazing and therefore there is no need to criticise Merkel or Steinmeier

scarlet crown
#

bruh

hollow hollow
split aurora
#

@leaden grove mfw she blames human trafficking for sexual exploitation at german railways... on the ukranian soldiers

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and not the human traffickers

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or the authorities failing to stop them

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jesus christ

#

what a fucking stupid article

leaden grove
#

Uhuh

copper monolith
copper monolith
split aurora
#

Casually gets tetanus from your own armour plate

stark inlet
#

Imagine being drafted and sent into the war

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And being given used/bloody bulletproof vests

split aurora
#

I can't even tell if fhats blood or rust

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💀

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not sure which is worse

#

bloods more disgusting, and more likely to give you a disease

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but a rusty plate might just crumble when someone shoots at yoy

stark inlet
#

Yea rusty plates would be about as bulletproof as the macbook one russian was wearing lmao

split aurora
#

you can see why the Russians are so desperate to steal ukranian kit

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if they're being equipped like this

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its basically pubg out there for the Russian troops

stark inlet
#

More like pubg but you join in the middle of the game

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So everyone around is well equipped while youre still rocking your lvl1 shitty ass vest

split aurora
#

lmao

split aurora
#

Russia getting every prediction wrong

#

lmao

copper monolith
stark inlet
clear creek
#

What has happend today

stark inlet
#

Moskva is officially gone

#

Promoted to submarine

clear creek
#

Is that 3 or 4 ships sunk

stark inlet
#

8

clear creek
#

Hot dam

scarlet crown
stark inlet
leaden grove
#

BTW the stamps might soon be sold abroad too

#

Pretty excited for that

copper monolith
hollow hollow
#

a little sus if you ask me

scarlet crown
#

yeaaaa

hollow hollow
#

also idk about you but i can't wait for the day when photos of moskva on the seabed are released

scarlet crown
#

we're gonna make it into an underwater attraction

wicked panther
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Ye, open it in telegram app

copper monolith
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who wants to see rhe worst take of the day

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"Put is an anti-war anti-elite anti-corruption liberal"

tired scaffold
leaden grove
split aurora
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Nothing says classical liberal like state monopoly over natural resources and their extraction, oligarchy, a police and surveillance state, and murder of political and business opponents!
||(from my friend, not me :p)||

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That is quite the take
Completely insane

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This video talks about an investigation by amnesty international of a possible cluster bomb attack against a Ukrainian civilian target

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And looks very likely and the only thing close to a military target was some shooting range or something like that

unreal path
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UN reports puts a low estimate on how many times so far Russia has used cluster bombs (Mar 1st) its at least 24

split aurora
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I mean 1 is already too many

split aurora
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Cluster bombs have had horrific effects in recent wars

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evil weapons

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convention to ban them

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purple = ratified, blue = signed but not ratified

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depressing how much of the world hasn't signed it

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cluster bombs have a similar effect as land mines

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long term risk to civvies

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areas in the caucus' are still off limits to civilians due to the risk

unreal path
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Yeah that vox vid talks about the ban

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Wish more countries were signed onto it :/

split aurora
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depressing how the ban is only 14years old

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too

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the amount of harm they caused in the first decade of the century is 😔

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Both its articles on Ukraine and the rest