#the_ukraine_situation

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leaden grove
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This is current

copper monolith
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these fucks ain't getting anywhere near Odesa

keen sorrel
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What is there to take over

leaden grove
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Hence the "uncertain length" regarding the siege near Kyiv

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Well, I suppose they mean actually getting inside the city

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You can bomb a place forever but you‘ll have to put boots on the ground eventually

viral junco
copper monolith
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russia finna fight on 2 fronts? 👀

hollow hollow
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wait so what is japan actually going to do about?

split aurora
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tbf Japan does have the means to do something about it

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buuuuuut I doubt they will

hollow hollow
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the last thing we need right now is more escalation

scarlet crown
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brother those timetables are late by like

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..how many days is this invasion going on for already?

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how is it already april

split aurora
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its probably just gonna stay words

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and sanctions

hollow hollow
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yeah hopefully

split aurora
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Japan's been bitter about those islands since '45

scarlet crown
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either way let's go, I'll count days

hollow hollow
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i feel like japan attacking russia also makes direct us involvement a lot more likely

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and we don’t want that for obv reasons

split aurora
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yeye

lilac sparrow
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Japan is bound by article 9

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Thry will never resort to war to solve international disputes

stark harness
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In terms of combat capabilities yes

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But Japan’s constitution doesn’t let it fight in any way

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And that’s a point of strong political debate right now

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Especially considering the threat China poses and now Russia

split aurora
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ye

stark harness
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And also North Korea keeps fucking sending missiles into the Sea of Japan and is getting close to the EEZ

leaden grove
stark harness
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I swear Japan is already a god damn natural disaster hell scape

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They don’t need a war when the government is so incredibly incompetent at making literally any form of change, ever

scarlet crown
stark harness
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Admittedly I’m interested in what would happen if Russia dared lay a finger on Japan though

scarlet crown
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I think that'd just lead to an escalation

stark harness
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Also Japan isn’t a member of NATO

stark harness
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The US military has quite an establishment in Japan

scarlet crown
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Even if they aren't, the world can't just stand aside. Russia holding two wars at once by own will? Fucking nonsense, countries would have to put an end to that

unreal path
stark harness
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Ah

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Did not know that

unreal path
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also Japan and South Korea's defense relationship has improved

stark harness
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Socially not a great relationship

unreal path
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yeah there's still tension between both Koreas and Japan, but in defense wise they have agreed to help each other

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that's why North Korea keeps targeting Japan with those missile tests

stark harness
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There’s uh, quite a few people who aren’t exactly willing to let go of what Japan did about 80 years ago

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unreal path
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I mean when haven't they been annoying

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the only time is when North Korea thanked the US after one of our ships helped on of their ships after they were getting attacked by pirates

leaden grove
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At one point they had a united hockey team with South Korea though

unreal path
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yeah and they had the one during the olympics, but North Korea wanted to sit out recent ones because of well pandemic, don't really blame them tbh

unreal path
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their press even released a statement of gratitude to the US for their help

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I mean we have our differences but we both hate pirates trying to take our ships abloblaugh

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just wanted to throw in that cool fun fact, not really ontopic of urkaine but still really interesting

copper monolith
copper monolith
unreal path
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how's Mariupol doing?

copper monolith
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bad

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Russian forces have retreated in the north, but nothing changed in the south and east

unreal path
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yikes

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woah

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what the crap happened to that plane

split aurora
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largest plane in the world

scarlet crown
split aurora
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hanger it was in got bombed about a week or two into the war

unreal path
scarlet crown
split aurora
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Yeah, built by the soviets

copper monolith
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it's old news now, but the plane got fucked, now Ukrainians managed to get a closer look

split aurora
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It was in hostomel airport

scarlet crown
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we'll rebuild it

unreal path
split aurora
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how do I spell that area

scarlet crown
split aurora
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Both the russian and ukranian militarys are based off soviet stuff

unreal path
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just a little ducktape and she will be flyin'

unreal path
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O _ O

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geez got enough wheels XD

hollow hollow
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it was built to carry the soviet space shuttle, like nasa’s 747

unreal path
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that must be an experience to pilot that

scarlet crown
unreal path
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scarlet crown
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this is the biggest fucking plane in the world dude

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Ukrainian pride

split aurora
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I... have my doubts if it'll ever be back

scarlet crown
split aurora
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they estimate the cost to rebuild at 3 billion

hollow hollow
copper monolith
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not gonna post the link here, you can see it in the latest post on liveuamap.com, but it's very bad, dead civilians just lying there, god damn fucking bastards

split aurora
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okay but

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3 billion

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is a lot of money

unreal path
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I mean what was that one building in France that was on fire

hollow hollow
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well antonov is a big company

unreal path
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they could be outside funds to help too

scarlet crown
unreal path
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how are the "peace" talks going?

hollow hollow
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3 billion is basically nothing for aircraft programs

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the f-35 program could cost up to 1.5 trillion

unreal path
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things can be rebuilt, with the amount of internal and outside help that can be provided it's just time and energy

scarlet crown
# unreal path how are the "peace" talks going?

they're kind of going nowhere, by that I mean that there are some vague agreements and forms, but it's all still pretty shaky. With recent attack on Belgorod's ammunition storage and oil depot, rus officials said the conditions for peace talks are not comfortable now

unreal path
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aw it's not comfortable for them : (

hollow hollow
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i’m not saying it’s true tho, i doubt it

unreal path
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russia don't care what your excuse is get back to the darn table -_-

scarlet crown
split aurora
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the an225.... doesn't really have much necessity to exist

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Like

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Yes, its cool

scarlet crown
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oh please, can you not start with that

split aurora
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But nobody would choose to build one over much cheaper and more convenient ones

hollow hollow
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fair point, but i think antonov will make it happen if they can

scarlet crown
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If there;s people already willing to rebuild it, then it will be rebuilt

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that's all

split aurora
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I think there'll be some talks of it, but It'll never get anywhere

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I'd fucking love to see it rebuilt

hollow hollow
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it’s not just about the practical stuff, it’s the psychological stuff too

split aurora
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I adore it as a plane

scarlet crown
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Dude, rebuilding it would be symbolic

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Biggest plane in the world, Mriya (dream in ukrainian)

unreal path
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I mean there could be some funds from say UNESCO or other orgs because of the cultural importance of it

scarlet crown
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just seeing this huge dream come back to life

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inspiring

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hollow hollow
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it’s like rebuilding the wtc, yeah technically it doesn’t have to happen but it’s hugely symbolic

unreal path
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yeah but what matters to Ukrainians should matter to all of us in some way or another

scarlet crown
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I don't see where you keep coming with your points

hollow hollow
scarlet crown
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Literally

split aurora
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aight, this aint goung anywhere

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I hope it is rebuilt

unreal path
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that's why I said UNESCO, like the money isn't gonna come from say the World Food Program or the red cross, but give it time and I bet it will be done

scarlet crown
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Yes

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It's not the deal of fucking "build this fuckass plane or feed the people"

unreal path
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kinda shocked they haven't marked the world heritage sites in Ukraine as in danger yet, then again don't know what that label truly means

scarlet crown
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nothing gets done in a day

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Of course there'll be talks, of course there'll be work

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But the point stands: Mriya will fly once again

split aurora
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Article published earlier today

unreal path
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here are the unesco world heritage sites

hollow hollow
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and psychological stuff like that can go a long way in rebuilding a devastated nation

split aurora
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`Unesco said that, overall, 29 religious sites, 16 historic buildings, four museums and four monuments were confirmed to have been damaged. The list does not include information from the besieged city of Mariupol or the city of Kherson, which has been captured by Russia.

None of those confirmed damaged are on the list of Unesco world heritage sites in Ukraine, such as the Saint-Sophia Cathedral or the monastic buildings of the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra.`

unreal path
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I mean ofc it's not the worst thing the worst is the lives lost, but targeting those kind of things is still horrible

hollow hollow
split aurora
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The heritage sites haven't been damaged, but the lower cultural value ones have

unreal path
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yeah we know world heritage sites, classic military bases

split aurora
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I mean

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there are military structures on the world heritage list

unreal path
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little off topic but did you know the Holy See (Vatican City) has two world heritage sites and one is Vatican City

split aurora
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points at the entire country

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"special"

unreal path
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so they have a world heritage site inside their world heritage site

scarlet crown
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heritageception

unreal path
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oh wait nvm this one is a shared one with Italy

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it's kinda complicated

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because it's related to Rome

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and with Vatican City being in rome

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still funny how the world smallest countries has 2 sites to it's name

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in case anyone is curious here's the site

split aurora
unreal path
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I think Europe has a few

split aurora
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"so I heard you like culture"

unreal path
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it's horrible that these places are being targeted :(

split aurora
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this ones sad

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red = in danger

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:/

unreal path
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Russia is pretty much doing what ISIS did in Syria and Iraq

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specifically targeting cultural sites or natural sites

split aurora
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lmfao

unreal path
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true but did they target Syrian heritage sites? not like it would shock me but can't remember

split aurora
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uhhh I think I remember that happening

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don't quote me on that im not 100% sure

unreal path
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there are just certain targets you don't hit, while ofc heritage sites aren't #1 they are still high up there :(

split aurora
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its a shame a lot of European cultural/heritage sites, how many of them were rebuilt in the 40s and 50s

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the war destroyed so much of europe

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war truely is one of the most evil disgusting things man has invented

unreal path
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the country who destroys a site (if it's a country ofc) should have to pay for it, wouldn't happen but it should be that way

hollow hollow
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the pacific theater wasn’t much different either, so much was destroyed in china and japan

split aurora
split aurora
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when you look at images of the firebombed towns

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or read accounts of occupations

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horrible stuff

hollow hollow
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i’ve never seen the stuff in hiroshima but i feel like i’m obliged to as a burger person

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just to have a little perspective i guess

split aurora
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worst thing is... hiroshima wasn't even the worst hit city

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nor nagasaki

hollow hollow
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yeah the firebombing did more damage than either of those

split aurora
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shows quite the extent of the bombing campaign in Tokyo, that more damage then a literal nuclear bomb was inflicted

hollow hollow
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i’d offer a lot more for warships

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like at least 10 million

scarlet crown
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for a russian scum, 1 mil will be more than enough to start questioning himself, trust me

split aurora
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Gonna be honest I don't really think something like a warship defecting is any possibility

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simply just as

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warships have big crews

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and usually putin simp commanding officers

scarlet crown
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yeah but money

split aurora
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For small patrol boats, planes,tanks

hollow hollow
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yeah it prob isn’t unless the captain goes rogue, but it couldn’t hurt to up the reward

split aurora
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this is absolutely a temptation

split aurora
scarlet crown
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Remember, they're Putin's simps for a reason

split aurora
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and you just need 1 putin simp with a rifle and it gets messy

hollow hollow
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yeah if i were a russian pilot i’d surrender my plane asap

split aurora
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honestly I think

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the most significant part of this

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will be the low end

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$10,000 for a tank

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these are civilians / conscripts driving them

scarlet crown
split aurora
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chance to have peace,bail out of a losing war, and get 10 grand?

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thats a temptation and a half for a barely trained conscript forced to war

hollow hollow
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imagine becoming an instant millionaire just by surrendering you obsolete piece of shit flanker

split aurora
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especially as russian conscripts tend to be poor ethnic minorities from the middle of siberia

hollow hollow
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like holy shit that’s the deal of a lifetime

scarlet crown
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best thing of this whole deal - you'll actually get treated as a human for once!

split aurora
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Its grim the conscription system in russia

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its designed to specifically target ethnic minorities

hollow hollow
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the trick is to convince them that they’re better off in ukraine tho

split aurora
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people in cities tend to be richer and more educated

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so either easily bribe

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or know the laws

hollow hollow
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i bet a lot of the experienced pilots are putin shills

split aurora
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instead russia trucks pull up to villages in siberia

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point rifles at residents

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and take young men away

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and treat them like utter shit

scarlet crown
split aurora
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Russia claims ukranians are neo nazis... meanwhile

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if you're bored one day

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look what happened to the crimean tartars

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and why they are a minority and Russians the majority in crimea

scarlet crown
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oh i remember

split aurora
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tldr: entire population forced to Uzbekistan in 1944, 20-50% died, werrent allowed back till 1991, many still stay in Uzbekistan today

hollow hollow
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honestly i hope the whole “russia is deporting mariupol residents to concentration camps” is just propaganda and maybe some russians are trying to evac the civvies. prob not the case but i hope it is

split aurora
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@hollow hollow There was a BBC article on it the other day

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it has been confirmed by independent sources russia is force moving a quantity (of unknown account) of ukranians by force into russia

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independent sources primarily being OSINT satellites

hollow hollow
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do we know if there’s concentration camps?

split aurora
split aurora
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Power of the Babushkas

limber wagon
scarlet crown
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Oh right

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I haven't posted here much lately cuz news detox, but all the russians in Belgorod are terrified

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They can't believe no air defence or border patrol were there

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Blaming the mayor for being a saboteur

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Fleeing the city

copper monolith
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lmao

leaden grove
copper monolith
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they can try and most likely fail

split aurora
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100 MLRS 🎉

copper monolith
molten tartan
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I heard there were strikes in Odesa

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are you alright Ein?

split aurora
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lmao

stark harness
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bruh

copper monolith
stark harness
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fucking scumbags

copper monolith
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⚡️Russian occupiers attack rally in Enerhodar, loud explosions heard in the city.

Russian forces arrested an unknown number of people opposing the Russian occupation. Reports of explosions and “massive shelling” sounds followed.

Source: State nuclear energy сompany Energoatom.

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gonna be honest... imma need more proof to believe this was a false flag

copper monolith
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ye im so confused

viral junco
copper monolith
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fuck

split aurora
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welp

viral junco
split aurora
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time to send an American rocket up and get our men back on ground

copper monolith
copper monolith
copper monolith
viral junco
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likely posted earlier but this was on r/place

split aurora
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Ukraine yesterday was the largest build

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spammed the entire width of the map

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now its only about 1/3rd its size

molten tartan
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Yeah

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They were across the whole width of the map

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Unfortunate, but also a lot more of the canvas is open now

copper monolith
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the Ukrainian flag with "fuck putin" is also gone Sadge

molten tartan
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:(

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Why is there so much among us on the Ukraine flag

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GDI Humanity

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Unrelated but interesting, I was helping with the Welsh flag when we got invaded by poland, and we had to migrate north

copper monolith
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its still a relevant game and also funny please laugh

molten tartan
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We good though

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Anyway let's not risk this getting too off-topic

molten tartan
copper monolith
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ye

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they ain't gonna take Odesa

molten tartan
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I know I know, dw

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They're struggling to even hold their positions, let alone take cities

viral junco
scarlet crown
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im just playing games, staying away from news for a while

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they won't take Odesa, not even in their dreams

unreal path
unreal path
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No anything but…statistics blobono

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Jk

limber wagon
unreal path
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Noooooooo notlikebolb

limber wagon
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They blew up a dam

copper monolith
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Fuckers

copper monolith
limber wagon
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Yeah, you would think more with the amount of gains they made. But maybe that will get added later? or maybe most of it was already known. Dunno

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copper monolith
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ah this one, I posted it yesterday

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the pilots survived and were detained

split aurora
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good

viral junco
copper monolith
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hell yeah extremely high gas prices time

limber wagon
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What are y'alls current gas prices?

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Here its like 2,20 per litre-ish

scarlet crown
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kyleba receiving drawings from japanese kids

split aurora
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2 20 euro?

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about 2 euro per litre in the uk

copper monolith
scarlet crown
viral junco
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  • Russia planned to easy-take Kyiv within 3 days, following by capitulation of Ukraine;
  • Russian army units were followed by thousands of riot police;
  • Russian army purchased 45,000 body bags and brought mobile crematories;
  • I am sure they planned mass executions for Ukraine.
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copper monolith
scarlet crown
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funny how tables have turned

limber wagon
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You love to see it

viral junco
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What's going on with rzhyschiv

limber wagon
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The red indicates a military base or zone

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Not related to the war directly, just the pre-existing ones

scarlet crown
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no fucking way

copper monolith
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fuckers still bombing Chernihiv

limber wagon
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Still room for error, since it is open source intelligence and all, but it is a good sign

split aurora
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russia seems to be going all or nothing on one front

limber wagon
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As this is definitely maintained by a team of hardcore internet detectives

split aurora
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they've been falling back in the south and this mass-exodus of the north

split aurora
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ah yes

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truely a valuable relic

copper monolith
split aurora
copper monolith
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rtgameConcern oh god

split aurora
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Theres... no shortage of footage online, which I don't intend to post

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Photos of ||civilians in shallow graves, hands behind their back, single shot's in their heads||

copper monolith
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I saw some of those posts, it's horrifying

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r/UkraineWarVideoReport has some of them, and also a very graphic video of burnt Russian soldiers near their husks of tanks, this war is terrible

nocturne osprey
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pya_U9gMsUE


Всё что осталось от Аэропорта Гостомель после российской оккупации. В каком состоянии самолёты? Какова судьба Ан-124? Какова судьба самого большога самолёта в мире - Ан-225 Мрия? Ответы на эти вопросы в этом видео.

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Breaking: US is expected to help facilitate transfer of tanks from NATO allies to Ukraine, according to senior US officials. The tanks will be Soviet-era T-72 tanks, which Ukrainian military has experience operating and will be delivered “within days, not weeks,” I’m told.

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:D

copper monolith
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man, the building he's then showing, he worked there for 29 years, and now all the safes etc have been looted before the bombing

copper monolith
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"improvised campfire"

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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i will at some point, I've seen other instances too

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It's just disgusting

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And the way they retreated from Kyiv with pockets full of stolen booze and jewelry

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so so many corpses are being found now

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victims of literal warcrimes

copper monolith
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wat u post, saw it as it got bopped

split aurora
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|| https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1510311348151861248 || - Jesus fucking christ [CW: AFP Post about civilian murders, tweet image contains low res distant images of corpses, not gorey]

#UPDATE Bucha's mayor, Anatoly Fedoruk, told @AFP by phone that they "have already buried 280 people in mass graves," since the Ukrainian army retook control of the key town outside Kyiv

As witnessed by @AFP, he said the heavily destroyed town's streets are littered with corpses

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scarlet crown
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yep

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there was so

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SO FUCKING MUCH

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we didn't know about

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those fucking monsters

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they'll pay

copper monolith
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christ

split aurora
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Flexs NLAW on shoulder

copper monolith
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lmao

scarlet crown
copper monolith
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also the music playing, I heard it 2 times a day when I was at my temp work this week

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as well as almost constant ads asking people to donate to Ukraine's war effort, "your best weapon is your credit card"

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copper monolith
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hope to see some yellow where the light-red is one day

scarlet crown
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https://t.me/polkazov/4353 Mariupol is not giving up

split aurora
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ah fuck

copper monolith
copper monolith
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if not dont

split aurora
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....yeah

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thats what I was about to

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😔

copper monolith
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they hid a body in a septic tank, what in the holiest of fucks

scarlet crown
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I think I've seen that one

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there were also marks of torture on the body

copper monolith
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this is what losing humanity looks like

nocturne osprey
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what the fuck

split aurora
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the entire family of a village mayor massacred

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very clearly targeted attack

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😔

nocturne osprey
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horrific

scarlet crown
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Honestly all those war crime cases from Bucha make me wonder

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what happened in other occupied places

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what do we not know yet

copper monolith
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terrifying to even think about

copper monolith
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these animals literally just shot anyone they saw on their way out

leaden grove
copper monolith
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@leaden grovepls spoiler the link and add a content warning

leaden grove
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Got it!

copper monolith
leaden grove
copper monolith
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yeah

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copper monolith
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Translation- the war in donbas will continue for half a year and Russians will pull out due to mass loss of equipment and soldiers

viral junco
copper monolith
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Hm

split aurora
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"3 days to capture capital"

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started in feb

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victory day planned for may

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seems legit russia

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scarlet crown
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Good day, woke up to a fucking explosion today!

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Locals assume the strike was on an oil depot here somewhere, but from what i can gather, it's not functional

unreal path
scarlet crown
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yes!

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just very shocked

limber wagon
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Remember back when we were outraged about every strike? Instead of the surely tens of thousands that we're talking about now?

limber wagon
scarlet crown
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Well one thing i do hope for is that there'll be less strikes

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I can hardly come up with any other significant structure here

limber wagon
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Well do you still have running water, electricity, heating or internet access?

scarlet crown
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oh i see where you're going

limber wagon
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Yeah

scarlet crown
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Fucking hell

limber wagon
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Sadly there are plenty of things

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Remember all those 'military target' apartment blocks

scarlet crown
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yeah, but those were usually striked in cities bordering with war action

limber wagon
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Fair point

scarlet crown
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On the more western side, they hit way more accurately

limber wagon
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Odesa will likely be spared the fast majority of that luckily

scarlet crown
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Like Lvivs military center

limber wagon
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Makes sense I suppose. Ballistic missiles are vastly more expensive than artillery rounds.

scarlet crown
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Yeah

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The main threat remains - paratrooper shits right near us

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Although there are mentions of countries planning to send us anti-ship complexes?

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That'd be very damn useful

limber wagon
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Fancy

scarlet crown
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So far it's just Boris Johnson speaking

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Do hope those words get more weight

limber wagon
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Yeah

scarlet crown
leaden grove
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The coverage of the Bucha massacre in German media is rather disappointing so far

split aurora
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but also they could just be neglecting to properly reporting it

leaden grove
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Because right now it‘s just very brief mentions along the lines of "A number of civilians were killed in Bucha, this could not be independently verified"

split aurora
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true

leaden grove
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But I‘ll keep an eye on this, we‘ll see what happens on Monday or Tuesday

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copper monolith
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bbc reports a large smoke cloud over Odesa rtgameConcern

split aurora
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that do be smokin

limber wagon
split aurora
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🙏

copper monolith
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I really hope we won't see more slaughter of civilians in those now previously occupied towns and villages...

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Now this?

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This is beautiful

copper monolith
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scarlet crown
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fucking justice will be served

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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Dmytro Kuleba urging G7 to provide hardest sanctions after Bucha massacre (content warning: same pictures from there, no gore)

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Trade embargo on all natural resources pls

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o7

copper monolith
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im waiting for the day chechen soldiers that fight for our side and remember their history to hold his nasty ass head by the beard

copper monolith
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just

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Look at their equipment

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what the fuck even is this

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They're just sending in homeless people with weapons

copper monolith
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Your average conscripts

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^ It's basically letters informing families that their sons died at this "special operation"

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@split aurora the first proper articles in German media were just published, along with statements by foreign minister Baerbock and by Habeck, no statement from Scholz yet as far as I can tell

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Notably the statements exclude any mention of sanctions on fossil fuels

scarlet crown
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That is so fucked

copper monolith
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Who'd let 11th century people govern a country in the 21st century

leaden grove
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I‘m watching Russian news on their main channel right now and they once again said that Russian soldiers are "cleansing a liberated city" in Luhansk oblast

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There is probably not much room left for imagination as to what that means

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This is fucking horrific

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a return to the ethnic cleansings of the balkan wars

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Jesus christ

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And now they’re showing a bus with evacuees with a total of five people, very convincing

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Answering a question about which units might have been responsible for the Bucha massacre: https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1510613976903827457

Along with our colleagues from @CITeam_en are collecting evidence on who were responsible for the massacres. There's evidence that 76th and 98th airborne assault divisions, as well as Kadyrov's Rosgvardia units were located there. We are looking for more evidence now.

scarlet crown
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The V is everywhere

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"Each aid package was assembled with love" mhmmm, yes

scarlet crown
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their fucking slogan of "we don't leave our people behind"

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fucking god

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I am so sick of their constant fucking lies

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"Terrible and horrifying pictures have reached us from Ukraine. Shot civilians, among them women, children and elders, in Bucha, which was controlled by the Russian military until a few days ago.

I demand that international organisations are granted access to these areas in order to independently document these atrocities. We must relentlessly investigate the crimes of the Russian military and hold the perpetrators accountable"

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"Hey Vlad, can you please stop killing civilians? No? Okay, fine, talk to you soon"

scarlet crown
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just ridiculous

leaden grove
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booooo

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#Лукашевич: Напоминаем об опасности дальнейшего «расползания» передаваемых 🇺🇦 Украине вооружений 💣 по Европе и попадания всего этого арсенала в руки бандитов и террористов. Бесконтрольное распространение ПЗРК создаст огромную угрозу ⚠️ для гражданской авиации ✈️

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They're saying the MANPADS shipped to Ukraine will allow them to endanger civil aviation

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Remind me again, who shot down the MH17 in 2014?

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they're just telling us they'll use captured manpads to shoot down airplanes

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based grandpa

split aurora
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L

copper monolith
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nice

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copper monolith
limber wagon
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Jesus christ, that's awful

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jesus fuck

leaden grove
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At this point it’s really hard to tell what their real objective is

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But support for Putin is still strong

split aurora
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And if anything, state TV is more enthusiastic than ever

copper monolith
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deny any accusation, say it's either fake or done by Ukrainian nazis, etc

split aurora
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When you try to stop NATO expanding and possibly force neutral states into NATO

copper monolith
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earlier I saw dad watching some tv program called "#StopFakes" (in russian) and they were talking about how a helicopter being shot down was ingame footage from Arma 3

split aurora
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to be fair there is a lot of that type of footage being posted

leaden grove
split aurora
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but for every fake theres 4 real ones

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"The premier said she would reveal her personal stance on Nato as discussions on membership unfold in the coming weeks.

"If the president or I voiced strong opinions on the issue, it would be the end of the debate...I believe it's very important that all of Finland's most central institutions are involved in the ongoing debate," she said"

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harpoon missiles have supposedly arrived in odesa, could be huge if true

copper monolith
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👀

hollow hollow
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russian ships have pretty strong defenses tho, if they’ll be of any use there will have to be a lot of them

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harpoons rely on swarm tactics that overwhelm defenses from what i know

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haughty yew
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Holy tuck how many more of us will be killed

unreal path
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: (

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Who did they work for CNN?

unreal path
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And EVEN if this is true, still doesn’t change the fact that you INVADED UKRAINE TT_Facepalm

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Die Bilder zahlreicher ermordeter Zivilisten im Kiewer Vorort Butscha sorgen weltweit für Entsetzen. Russland bestreitet eine Verantwortung für die Gräuel – und bezichtigt nun in bizarrer Weise die USA.

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copper monolith
limber wagon
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Even leaving out the absurdity of calling them "radicals". In no way does civilians being radicals excuse murder.

scarlet crown
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They're. still. civilians.

copper monolith
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they really believe the world's just gonna believe them, what the fuck

limber wagon
scarlet crown
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Just like this invasion

copper monolith
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the most extreme version of YOLO

limber wagon
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Tweets like this is what I'm talking about. Like wow, the blurry imame looks slightly different at different times in the video. S tier evidence.

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And I know these are just low tier assholes, and we should just ignore them. But my god, do they have no compassion and zero grasp on reality?

scarlet crown
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yes!

scarlet crown
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https://t.me/dsszzi_official/2834 yall gotta see this "impenetrable defence" of world's second army

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just fucking tie wood to it, sure

copper monolith
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logs are def the future of armour

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nanotech? naw man, just chop down some trees, that's more effective and very cheap!

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limber wagon
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In tangiently related news

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uk wanting to end their reliance on imports

copper monolith
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man after the old one that was closed down here, there were plans to build a new one, but that plan died, and then fucking Belarus built their own reactor near the border

split aurora
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The UKs decommissioning a lot of our reactors shortly

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and like, about 1/4 of our energy comes from them

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thats just gonna switch to coal if we don't hurry the fuck up and replace them

copper monolith
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Sadge hopefully the new ones get built quick, but def will take ~10 years

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at least yous have an ever expanding wind energy sector

limber wagon
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which are unbelievably good for generating wind and tidal energy

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sadly political bickering has stopped anything being built there

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Scotland refuses to pay the... couple million pound to build a new interconnecter

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so the shetlands have to just, switch off their wind turbines on windy days

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as they have too much energy

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Theres not much you can do

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leave it on and you create a power surge

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if you can't send it to the mainland

copper monolith
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hello sturgeon if u want u can tax the energy or whatever but pls build the interconnector

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Pretty please with a bow on top

copper monolith
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2nd latest post on BBC, if anyone wants to subject themselves to the sadness of the video

wicked panther
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Man this isnt war, it’s a slash and burn with no direction

split aurora
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Same thing

copper monolith
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you love to see it

split aurora
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Orban won the Hungarian election, sad

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russia maintains another European ally

copper monolith
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The Battle of Kyiv was part of the Kyiv offensive in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine for control of Kyiv, the capital city of Ukraine, and surrounding districts. The combatants were elements of the Russian Armed Forces and Ukrainian Ground Forces. The battle lasted from 25 February 2022 to 2 April 2022 and ended with the withdrawal of Russi...

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The elections in Hungary are free, but not in any way fair

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was to be expected he'd win

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Dammit, that guy sucks

split aurora
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In his victory speech, Mr Orban criticised Brussels bureaucrats and Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky, calling them "opponents"

copper monolith
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who the fuck voted for this guy

split aurora
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he got 53% of the vote

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Opposition parties had no official radio channel, had extremely limited tv broadcasting

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Hungarians living outside of Hungary (who were anti-orban as a whole) found it extremely difficult to vote

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lots of propaganda

copper monolith
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that's so fucked

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I guess we'll have to deal with his bitchass for a few more years

split aurora
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mhmm

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though he's completely isolated himself from the world

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Poland about his only link, and they're getting uncomfortable to how he's sucking putin off

copper monolith
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Poland's also pretty far on the right but at least they're against Russia

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at least not everyone in Hungary's government is attracted to Putin

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lmao shat on

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not surprised at all, considering how they treat civilians

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fucking assholes

leaden grove
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copper monolith
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not enough people in Russia are stopping to think about how deranged this is

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holy shit what the fuck

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i saw nazis trending

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can't believe russia was trending

mighty tusk
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i cant find anything because twitter is bad and all i can see when i click onto it is tweets with like 80 likes

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literally

copper monolith
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there was another holocaust survivor that died from Russian shelling in Kharkiv, its just too depressing

mighty tusk
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valentin(e?)T can you tell me what is happening to get nazis trending

copper monolith
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idk, twitter is weird

limber wagon
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Twitter trends things based on words used in tweets. Probably a lot of nazi comparisons after those brutal warcrimes

mighty tusk
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what warcrimes

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i havent been paying too much attention to the war

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i know warcrimes have been happening ofc

limber wagon
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Search #RussiaWarCrimes if you want to see some dead bodies

mighty tusk
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but what specifically new

limber wagon
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Bucha

copper monolith
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Russians slaughtered over 400 civilians in Bucha near Kyiv as they retreated

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just shot people in the streets that were minding their own business

limber wagon
copper monolith
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many were also buried in mass graves

limber wagon
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||Naked dead woman
People with torture marks
people shot in the head while also bound||

copper monolith
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just trying to recreate what their grandparents did after conquering Berlin

mighty tusk
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hooolyyyyy shit

split aurora
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Yeah there's significant scale war crimes going on here

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war, war is hell.

copper monolith
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and now the Russian media is constantly talking about how it was Ukrainian provocateurs that did it instead

scarlet crown
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yeah and there's also a high probability the same is being done in other occupied cities

leaden grove
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Yup, we‘ll probably hear more about that once the sieges end

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President Volodymyr Zelensky visited Bucha, a town northwest of Kyiv, which became the site of Russia’s bloody massacre with hundreds of civilian victims, on April 4.

Photo: AFP, Anadolu Agency/Getty Images

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“It will be recognized by the world as genocide,” Zelensky told reporters. “We know of thousands of people killed and tortured, with their limbs cut off, women raped, children killed,” he said presumably about the atrocities all across Ukraine.

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copper monolith
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I like that the article doesn't sugarcoat it, directly stating about anti-air defense losses

copper monolith
split aurora
copper monolith
leaden grove
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But Austrian politics have always been… special, to put it that way

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Though now it‘s just a GRU spy hub by the looks of it

copper monolith
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damn

split aurora
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10/10 armour

copper monolith
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why did he do that wtf

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darwin award moment

scarlet crown
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It's not the guy who stole it btw, just our soldier who found it in his vest ^

split aurora
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lmfao

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amazing

scarlet crown
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god

hollow hollow
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guess he thought it was better than nothing

scarlet crown
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no man, he literally fucking replaced a usable plate

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With a macbook

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The sheer fucking greed of these pigs is amusing

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They go so far to just terrorise people and steal shit

hollow hollow
split aurora
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I mean, I can see it

hollow hollow
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they’re dumb but not that dumb

split aurora
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I mean

scarlet crown
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you could say the same about this whole "operation"

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where would that lead

split aurora
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He probably thought "Alright, I can go without plates for a couple hours and probably survive, and I get the equivalent of a week+ wages selling this"

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"fuck it lets try it"

hollow hollow
scarlet crown
split aurora
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yeah

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Russian conscripts disproportionately come from very poor minority groups

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often in the east

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Sooooo that goes a way to explain the severity of greed and looting

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The valknot is maybe, maybe excuseable as its heavily used by pagans.... but the Totenkopf is entirely linked to the german army, especially in ww2 - And the 2 of them used together is absolutely a nazi symbol

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spot the difference

hollow hollow
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you have got to be joshing me

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they’re literally not even hiding it

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they just went “hey here’s a skull and crossbones patch that also happens to be nazi symbol, just in case you couldn’t tell we’re evil”

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what has happened today

copper monolith
copper monolith
# solid adder what has happened today

lithuania kicking out russian ambassador, zelensky visits bucha, eu is planning to send a team of investigators to ukraine to look at what war crimes were commited, and russia denies committing the massacre, instead saying it was committed by "ukrainian provocateurs"

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I did not know this massacre existed

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"The pictures from Bucha show the intention of destruction which goes beyond all limits. There we have declared a substantial number of members of the Russian embassy personae non gratae. Further actions will be taken together with our partners"

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I wonder how many diplomats they‘re really going to expel

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Ah, there we go, 40

viral junco
scarlet crown
# split aurora

i wonder if the background is another successfully destroyed military sctructure of ukrainian neo-nazis

viral junco
haughty yew
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holy shit

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Does Russia Still hold Chernobyl ?

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no

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Chernobyl is north of Kyiv, and that place is free now

viral junco
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i hope this does not result in another chechnya situaiton

split aurora
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Depends how much the frontlines shift

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Mariupol certainly resembles chechnya style warefare

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but thats the only large city russias surrounded long enough to actually besiege

scarlet crown
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have you actually seen people from kadyrov's squad fighting there

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against hollow houses and windows

split aurora
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to avoid the cities destruction and gain friendlier terms

scarlet crown
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haven't actually heard anything from kherson in a while

split aurora
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Kharkiv, Kyiv, Konotop etc.

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russias not managed to surround to besiege

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soooo question is can russia advance on any more cities in the donbass

copper monolith
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overheard more russian propaganda from dad's laptop, they fucking used the Soviet Hell March from Red Alert when showing a collage of Azov soldiers lmao

hushed magnet
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lmao wtf

copper monolith
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⚡️ Pro-Russian party stages fake mayor elections in partly occupied Mariupol.

Kostyantyn Ivashchenko, a local council member from the pro-Russian party Opposition Platform, was pronounced "mayor" of Mariupol on April 4 during a meeting of party members.

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According to Petro Andryushchenko, an advisor to the real mayor of Mariupol, the Russian military, who control part of Mariupol, assisted Ivashchenko's show.

The ceremony had no legal meaning: That's not how mayors are elected.

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ah yes russian style elections

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what the fuck

scarlet crown
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my fucking god

unreal path
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I’m hearing rumors of a big surrender of Ukrainian forces at Mariupol, anyone else? Or can anyone confirm/deny this?

scarlet crown
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Key word rumours

silk iron
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I don't see any sources corroborating a surrender at Mariupol

scarlet crown
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The only official thing I've seen is that the russian side urges Mariupols defence to surrender on April 5th in the morning

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guess what the answer will be

silk iron
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but I do suspect the Ukrainian forces (as well as remaining civilians) will completely run out of supplies and be forced to surrender if the siege continues for much longer.

scarlet crown
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It's a race for time, no doubt about it

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But they're keeping up some heroic damn defences

copper monolith
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it's surrender or death, quite a tough decision...

scarlet crown
copper monolith
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indeed

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one might be less prolonged and less painful, the other would be surrender

split aurora
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tbf, if you run out of bullets.... or food, theres not much more fighting left to do, even if you wanted to

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surrender and hope for a merciful officer

silk iron
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If the Russian forces had some integrity with ceasefires humanitarian corridors, and POWs - I would suspect Mariupol would have surrendered

scarlet crown
split aurora
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for every genocidial war criminal theres also someone with some semblance of a moral compance

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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That

split aurora
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mhmm

viral junco
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charlotte, there is mostly genocidal war criminals

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the works of one does not outset the sins of thousands

split aurora
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im aware

split aurora
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no attak pls

scarlet crown
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I appreciate the hope you have, but it'll be most likely shattered

silk iron
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i think you're misinterpreting the context of what Charlotte said tbh

scarlet crown
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yeah they did

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a merciful russian officer is a dead russian officer

silk iron
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the idea that surrendering in a hopeless situation is better than fighting to the bitter end - for the chances of a merciful officer (or offer) being lenient.

split aurora
scarlet crown
silk iron
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but realistically things have deteriorated beyond that, Russia's reputation is rock bottom.

split aurora
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The thing is though that there is likely a deeper reason for the siege on Mariupol beyond just strategic objectives

split aurora
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aye

silk iron
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you can still pretend to have ammunition and delay for as long as possible ofc.

split aurora
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mariupol is a propaganda victory too

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being the home to Azov, the actual nazi's in ukraine

silk iron
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still takes time to flush out troops with bayonets hiding in the back alleys.

leaden grove
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The recent events have more than shown that this is turning into a war of attrition

split aurora
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sooooo russia goes "Look we captured one nazi in mariupol THUS the entire country is like this"

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"pls ignore the wagner group"

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russian old folk cheer in the streets

leaden grove
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Eh, the entire Ukrainian elite consists of Nazis for them

split aurora
scarlet crown
split aurora
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lmao

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true

leaden grove
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Azov isn’t even mentioned in the Russian news that often

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It’s almost always "nationalists" or "banderites"

scarlet crown
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not too often, but they surely built them the fame of nazis

leaden grove
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Definitely

copper monolith
leaden grove
copper monolith
leaden grove
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Yup

silk iron
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the Azov battalion is the inconvenient grain of truth in the Russian propaganda's narrative - the Russian propaganda needs to sell a large nazi-nationalistic movement and know the Azov battalion isn't sufficient in that regard.

copper monolith
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who wrote this

silk iron
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Secondly to my point - talking about Azov Battalion's warcrimes and ferocity can also be detrimental to Russian troops morale.

split aurora
copper monolith
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oh it's that RIA Novosti post

leaden grove
scarlet crown
leaden grove
scarlet crown
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Since it pretty much points out the whole plan of this operation

copper monolith
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glanced over other quick translations in that thread, holy fuck whoever wrote it is as dense as a neutron star

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an actual nazi

leaden grove
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Yeah, but the stuff they say on TV is just as bad

scarlet crown
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It's the absolute worst

leaden grove
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Especially in various talk shows

copper monolith
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i fucking hate that my dad and grandpa reads and listens to this fucking shit

silk iron
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they may learn the truth one day

leaden grove
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My grandparents have an uncanny talent for finding ways to watch weird Russian TV clips

scarlet crown
silk iron
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but it'll be a slow process, and most people need to slowly drift away from the propaganda starting with mild scepticism

leaden grove
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It’s not something that will happen in the immediate future

copper monolith
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wait hold the fuck on, isn't Viktor Yushchenko Putin's puppet?

leaden grove
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Kinda

copper monolith
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I need a context reminder for what im about to bring up

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then what the fuck is this

silk iron
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Viktor Yanukovych right?

leaden grove
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Bandera is quite a popular resistance figure

scarlet crown
silk iron
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I don't know Yushchenko

copper monolith
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I keep mixing up Yuschenko and Yanukovych lmao

leaden grove
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@copper monolith that award was later annulled

silk iron
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sadly being British and all most Eastern European names blend into one

leaden grove
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Like a year later after outrage from various organisations including the EU

scarlet crown
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Yanukovich is the pig that fled the country with most of the budget in 2014

silk iron
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the Euromaiden movement

leaden grove
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And a court also stripped him of the award since he was technically never a Ukrainian citizen

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There was another attempt to bestow him with the award in 2019 but it was rejected by parliament

copper monolith
leaden grove
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Yup

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It seems like he‘s mainly popular in Lviv anyways

scarlet crown
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Well yea

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Western Ukraine

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very patriotic

copper monolith
#

April 4 marks 40 days of Russia’s barbarous war in Ukraine. The extent of Russia’s cruelty against Ukrainians, however, was discovered just two days ago. On April 2, Ukrainian forces regained control of Bucha, a town northwest of Kyiv, revealing the many horrific atrocities of Russia’s weeks-long occupation. Hundreds of […]

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Take this with a grain of salt

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theres arguments over legitimacy

scarlet crown
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Just checked the tag in the video, seems to come from a russian source

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Honestly it's fucking stupid to read it

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There's also a video of seemingly a smerch artillery "working on ukrainian forces positions in Mykolaiv"

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Which ties to our reports of civilians getting struck down with it (artillery fire)

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Worst part is someone actually points it out in the comments, like what are we celebrating, why waste it on civilians

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and then someone else goes "guess they weren't just civilians"

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DUDE

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overall some reports could be truthful, but the whole channel seems very sketchy

split aurora
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😔

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Rob Lee is about the most trusted and consistently truthful figure in the osint community

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These idiots don't have a clue what they're doing

scarlet crown
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You know they're just actors right

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They're filming these videos like they're actually doing something

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While in reality they just burn to death or keep terrorising civilians

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They have 0 idea of proper warfare

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There's been instances where they even shot occupants

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and how occupants purposefully leaked their location for us to get rid of them

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It's on so many levels of fucked up

scarlet crown
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But afaik anyone from our forces who does that gets harshly punished

split aurora
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they're not even good actors

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in fighting a sniper, they randomly fired in several completely different areas with no rhyme or reason

scarlet crown
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Yeppp

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I don't think anyone takes them seriously anymore

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Outside of just terrorising people

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Ramzan is just a cocky ass clown who was scared to step a foot in Kyiv

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Saying he's there while being in Belarus

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And that photo of him praying on a "ukrainian" gas station

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Which had rosnafta written on it (russian gas company, they don't work here)

copper monolith
stark inlet
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ah yes thanks for the confirmation lmao

copper monolith
stark inlet
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Russians keep making deepfakes and holding rigged elections in occupied cities

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Whats stopping them from making fake vids of russian soldats being executed by ukrainians

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Saying that the video appears genuine tells us nothing, we watched the same mp4 file

limber wagon
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Saying outright that everything from one side is automatically fake by default doesn't help anyone

stark inlet
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Believing in everything doesnt help either

limber wagon
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No one is doing that

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This video needs to be investigated

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Simple as that

scarlet crown
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It's still taken with a grain of salt, no one's saying it's legit yet

limber wagon
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And is it really that outlandish to suggest that there are at least a few sadistic assholes in an army of how many thousand people?

scarlet crown
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Yea

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Let's just skip over that for now until further confirmation

split aurora
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Theres no video, but Rob Lee is a very trustworthy source

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so don't write it off

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but don't accept it as fact either

stark inlet
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🤷‍♂️

split aurora
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take it with a grain of salt

scarlet crown
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stark inlet
split aurora
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lmfao

scarlet crown
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world's second army btw

limber wagon
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Lots of tanks and vehicles

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I'm assuming thats abandoned stuff from the russian retreat

wicked panther
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Damn what happened on the 3 of march

split aurora
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numbers jump erratically as they are reported

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especially troops

limber wagon
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And of course its kinda logical since Russia just ran as far as they could in to enemy territory on the assumption that they would win

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Which of course was beyond stupid

raven fossil
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Not usually the best strategy

stark inlet
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Tfw youre trying to zerg with the cheapest units in the armory

scarlet crown
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