#the_ukraine_situation

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split aurora
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and I feel an offensive in crimea would not benefit from the "defence of the homeland" morale boost

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nor the amount of volunteers enthusiastic to join

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Especially when it devolves to bloody sieges and house to house warfare

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against armed civilians on the other side

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either way imma go

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ttyl

scarlet crown
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yeah, always easy to just judge from afar

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Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on videos of "ukrainian soldiers abusing POWs" (Arestovych also adds that "such cases (if real) won't be tolerated, there'll be investigations. I've said it before and I'll say it again - we don't abuse pows. We are a european army of a european country)

unknown.png
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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3155

Telegram
Ukraine NOW [English]

❗️Journalists of the German channel ZDF published another video-testimony about the crimes of the Russians for The Hague.

Footage from the drone shows the Russians shooting a married couple in Kyiv region.

Source: radiosvoboda

copper monolith
copper monolith
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also overheard the kremlin propaganda from dad's laptop, they're really going with the cancel culture stuff, and yeah they're of course using the ammo that was given to them in the form of Russian writers having their books removed and some musician having his act cancelled

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god damn it west, you're only helping Putin by just removing all russian culture like that

scarlet crown
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yeah, that's just unhelpful

unreal path
leaden grove
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About that, Zelenskyy ruled that out in an interview with independent Russian journalists

split aurora
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makes sense

leaden grove
scarlet crown
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that's what the whole argument above was about

leaden grove
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I think it‘d be possibly justified to demand Crimea as part of a peace agreement though

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The thing is that any sort of peace agreement would very likely require other countries pledging to uphold it actively which complicates everything

scarlet crown
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that's what I was going to add but decided not to

leaden grove
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Yeah

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I think it’s still worth mentioning considering statements made by the UK government about sanctions

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Because I don’t think stopping the war and just saying "Oops" is enough in this case to lift them

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Ideally there’d be an immediate ceasefire followed by intense negotiations about a peace treaty including other countries

copper monolith
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russia will remain the most sanctioned country on the planet until that demented man and his minions are completely out of power

leaden grove
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Yup

unreal path
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Especially with traditionally neutral countries acting

leaden grove
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At the very least they should cooperate with international criminal courts & pay reparations

unreal path
leaden grove
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Interesting

unreal path
leaden grove
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Though Ireland really does benefit from being an island and being on the other end of Europe

unreal path
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Russia has made enemies with neutral countries and has pushed NATO back into a reason to exist and pushed the idea of the EU developing its own defense

leaden grove
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Yup

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Though there are still some issues when it comes to the EU

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cough cough Austria

unreal path
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Even if they “win” they have so many against them now

leaden grove
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Yeah

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You should see the new Russian version of Hollywood lmao

unreal path
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Same with Belarus

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I wonder if there have been any Russian troops switching sides 🤔

leaden grove
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I doubt it, though there have been successfully surrenders

split aurora
scarlet crown
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Bulbawood

unreal path
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I mean with Russia just throwing them out to basically die from either fighting or having no more supplies

leaden grove
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  • there might be volunteers
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Belawood

scarlet crown
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no no, they'd probably go for a russified version

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something like Беладуб

unreal path
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Ruswood

leaden grove
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BelaLes

scarlet crown
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pffwheee

leaden grove
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Белый лес!

unreal path
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Has there been any changes with China? Like are they supporting it more?

scarlet crown
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not as far as i know

leaden grove
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Not really, no

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Though Chinese state media recently published more articles showing both bombings in Ukraine while accusing NATO of being responsible for the war

proven steppe
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Damn

leaden grove
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I‘ll have to ask my friend though, she might know more about this

unreal path
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It is a bit awkward to support a “military operation” to support breakaway regions when China has East Turkistan (might have misspelled), Tibet, Macau, Hong Kong, and under China’s eyes Taiwan

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Also Inner Mongolia

leaden grove
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I’m sure the Chinese are aware that this wasn’t mainly about the Donbas

proven steppe
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How does china benefit from helping russia

leaden grove
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They have close economic ties

unreal path
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Well the issue isn’t China’s view, it’s those areas I listed views. This could motivate them to get more aggressive

leaden grove
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Though China knows that they can’t openly support them or risk losing more of their economy

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Though it‘ll also be interesting to see how the annexation of the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts will play out

proven steppe
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The last thing china wants rn is sanctions on them

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Economic ones

leaden grove
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Because then Ukrainian soldiers would then be technically fighting on Russian soil (in their view)… I wonder how that would affect military doctrine

unreal path
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The issue is, would the world sanctioning China be worse for China or the world? Or whoever does it

proven steppe
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Yeah thats a huge problem

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Where does EVERYTHING come from? Ch ina

leaden grove
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Yeah

unreal path
leaden grove
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Also has anyone heard any news about Macron?

proven steppe
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My phone is buggin out with ghost touch, so if i say something illogical its my phone

leaden grove
unreal path
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The only two regions I know Russia has annexed is the two on the Crimea Peninsula
Crimea and I’m so bad at spelling it, it starts with S

leaden grove
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And it was debated by a few Duma deputies too

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No final decisions seems to have been made but it was mentioned in TASS

leaden grove
unreal path
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Yes

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Thank you

leaden grove
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Yw

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My grandpa is pretty fond of that city

unreal path
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If LPR and DPR get annexed at least their republics lasted longer than Crimea and Sevastopol didn’t they last like a day

proven steppe
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Man

unreal path
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Not recognized ofc

leaden grove
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But I don’t think their goal has been to be independent forever anyways

unreal path
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Since I’m pretty sure they declared their independence and then like a day later voted to be annexed

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“Voted”

leaden grove
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Well yeah

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That was more or less a direct annexation

unreal path
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I mean they would stay republics just under the Russian Federation

leaden grove
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Yeah, though the reports we‘ve been getting from the occupied areas so far have been horrible

copper monolith
leaden grove
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And I imagine the repression would only get worse if they can actually deploy the police state there

unreal path
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When you have pro Russia people learning to staying a part of Ukraine you know you screwed up

leaden grove
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Yup

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But even so, the annexation of Crimea didn’t result in nearly as much bloodshed

unreal path
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At the very least that’s some positive of that situation

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I wonder how Moldova is feeling right now with Transnistria

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I wonder if there’s been a new movement to join NATO

leaden grove
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I really don’t know, I‘ll have to look into that

unreal path
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Transnistria is so interesting, where it’s not recognized but when you have a region that does things on their own for a long period they turn into basically a country

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And these regions just turn into pawn for greater powers if they didn’t start as one to begin with

split aurora
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Transnistria is independent in all but name

unreal path
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It would be really interesting if there was a way to get a legit poll there to see how they feel about this

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Like is there still a moment to be annexed by Russia or has it been changed because of this situation or maybe a bigger just independent movement

split aurora
unreal path
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Northern Cyprus

split aurora
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Somaliland

unreal path
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Western Sahara

split aurora
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South Ossetia

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Abkhazia

unreal path
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I bet Russia is eyeing those right now

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And if Russia gets any amount of land out of this, Georgia and/or Moldova are next

split aurora
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Russia is sending troops from there to ukraine, depleting the russian forces in the area

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soooo

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could be interesting see what happens

unreal path
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Really?

split aurora
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`“We now have indications that they are drawing on forces from Georgia to Ukraine,” the official said, adding they were not tracking their movements from the air.

Russian troops have been stationed in Georgia after Russia invaded the country in 2008. Georgia is on Russia’s southwestern border.

The Pentagon did not know where the troops from Georgia would be going in Ukraine, the official said, while noting that the Kremlin has said it is prioritizing its activity in the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine.`

unreal path
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Interesting ablobthinking

split aurora
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(The official being an Unnamed senior defence official)

scarlet crown
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It's also true for Armenia, now that russian peacekeepers are sent here, Azerbaijan sent in their troops

split aurora
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conflict on the armenia-azerbaijan border has (iirc) heated up since the invasion started

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ye

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Armenia is russian backed

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Azerbaijin is turkish backed

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they've been in a conflict for 34years, of varying intensity

unreal path
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Yeah there’s a sudo independent region there

split aurora
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i dont wanna see another azerbaijani invasion of armenia

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though I fear its likely

unreal path
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The world already had enough with covid and now possibly bird flu

scarlet crown
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https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1980 message from Zelenskiy, march 27th

Telegram
Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

A new round of negotiations is ahead, because we are looking for peace. Our priorities in the negotiations are known. Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity are beyond doubt. Effective security guarantees for our state are mandatory. Our goal is obvious - peace and the restoration of normal life in our native state as soon as possible.

viral junco
unreal path
unreal path
viral junco
split aurora
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Moscow to Berlin to Kyiv

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the great triangle

copper monolith
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based

scarlet crown
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honestly Russia has been supporting us no less than others

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They provided us with fuel, tech, fertilizer

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Can't thank them enough

copper monolith
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xd

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there'll be fields of sunflowers over scarred lands

scarlet crown
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oh hopefully

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they'd have to be buried for that to happen

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sadly, they leave most of the bodies behind, just laying there

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There's a new video of random stray dogs eating the remains of a russian soldier

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so i guess there is some use for that meat

split aurora
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:(

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In medieval Europe, crows would follow armies into battle

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for a similar reason

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hence where crows got their reputation

scarlet crown
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Smart birds, love em

copper monolith
split aurora
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Don't trust British government sent aid

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lmfao

scarlet crown
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🤨

hollow hollow
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can anyone explain why biden calling for putin to be removed from power is controversial? i’m not a huge biden fan but he’s absolutey right, putin is a total thug and it’s about time people stood up to him

unreal path
copper monolith
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Usually world leaders shouldn't say the quiet thing out loud

unreal path
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or destabilizing Russia even more

hollow hollow
copper monolith
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Yeah, but they can't do that too obviously or Putin will become even more paranoid

unreal path
split aurora
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when I'm sat with my boss

unreal path
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if the Russian people aren't supportive of it, then it will not end well

split aurora
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I sometimes want to punch him

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but I should say "I want to punch you"

unreal path
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doesn't matter what anyone else feels about Putin

split aurora
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as that raises tension

scarlet crown
hollow hollow
split aurora
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....no

unreal path
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saying I'm gonna kill you isn't being in control

split aurora
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In life you don't always say exactly what you think k

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what would happen in diplomacy if everyone said exactly what they thought at all times

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theyd be sat in a room insulting eachother till dawn

hollow hollow
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well maybe it’s time we did. it’s time russia became afraid of us, we can’t just pussyfoot around everything like this

split aurora
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raising tensions like biden has done

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helps nobody

unreal path
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so heres the question how would we get rid of putin?

split aurora
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this is childish logic

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These are real lives on the line

unreal path
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a military coup that might start a revolution by a big number of Russians that support him?

split aurora
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every statement by a leader carries a cost in blood

hollow hollow
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naw shit

split aurora
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"lets threaten putin to make him scared of us"

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that just raises tensions

unreal path
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I mean Russia is already afraid

split aurora
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which causes russia to ACT

unreal path
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why do you think he didn't want Ukraine to join NATO

hollow hollow
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the west is currently afraid of russia too

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that can’t be the case

unreal path
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he knows NATO beats Russia without nukes, and no one wins with nukes so either way its loss loss

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are we tho

scarlet crown
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Yea

split aurora
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Duplomacy isn't "being afraid of someone"

hollow hollow
split aurora
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this isn't medieval europe

hollow hollow
scarlet crown
split aurora
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you can't walk round unsulting everyone swinging your massive geopolitical cock aroind

unreal path
split aurora
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"Not starting a world war is a real pussy action guys" - is the words of a jingoist

frail relic
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russia is currently using anything the west says that is vaguely anti russian in propaganda too, the more the government there can make the people afraid of the west the more they can justify war to their own people

unreal path
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a no fly zone wouldn't stop russia from launching missiles from the ground or sea

hollow hollow
unreal path
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it's the same thing with say torturing terrorists, it might feel justified but that's just giving the terrorists more to work with

hollow hollow
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i still think that, in one way or another, russia is in control here and they know it

unreal path
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there's a difference between being weak and trying to make sure you don't start nuclear war

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like think of the cuban missile crisis

scarlet crown
unreal path
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what if the US was "strong" and invaded Cuba

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what would happen

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also Russia has a system where nukes can be launched without Putin's approval

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a dead man switch

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even if they don't have that system on now, they did at one point

hollow hollow
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i’m not saying invade russia, i’m saying at least stand up to them

unreal path
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it's great saying stand up but how

hollow hollow
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bro idk i’m not a political strategist

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but there’s gotta be something they can do

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better than rolling back statements

unreal path
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like sanctions? like sending weapons? like sharing intel?

hollow hollow
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certainly not saying “sorry putin we didn’t mean it!”

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that makes you look weak and spineless

unreal path
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we don't want to aid his image

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us saying to basically kill Putin falls into the image Putin has made of the west

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we don't want to give him more reasons

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like if putin isn't thinking clearly, lets say he sees the west being strong and attempt to take Putin out...what's the chances that he doesn't just start launching nukes

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the same strategies that worked before nuclear weapons don't work when the cost could be the whole world

scarlet crown
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world wipe? is that a Minecraft reference?

unreal path
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lets say oh lets just remove him from office via coup or something, if he's still alive that's a chance for a group to form to preform another coup

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that's the issue, I think we should be doing more to help, but what will work without ending with nukes flying across the world

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also lets say if the US was planning on organizing a coup against Putin WHY WOULD YOU ANNOUNCE IT

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some argue that us sending in military supplies is too much, I disagree that's the least we should be doing imo

scarlet crown
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which it isn't

unreal path
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well I have seen some here agruing that

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like stopping sending jets from Poland

scarlet crown
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Oh thos migs

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They're still busy arguing on sending them or not

unreal path
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simple just have the Ukrainians fly them out. there no chance of NATO personals getting hit

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the thing is Russia doesn't have air superiority as of now

scarlet crown
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I'd doubt that

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they're still pretty prominent in the air, although less, yes

unreal path
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in what way?

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if they did, it would be worse

hollow hollow
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afaik air superiority basically means the enemy is incapable of flying. russia does have the larger air presence, but ukraine can still fly from time to time

unreal path
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like worse than it already is

hollow hollow
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so neither really has it

unreal path
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yeah

scarlet crown
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I guess

unreal path
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and being able to launch missiles doesn't equal air superiority since you can do that from the ground or sea

scarlet crown
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There's still some planes, helis and uavs getting shot down

hollow hollow
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main reasons russia doesn’t have AS yet: no awacs, fuel/pilot shortages, ukr long range air defenses, manpads, etc

unreal path
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if they had air superiority there would be no strikes against russian troops from the ukraine air force

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they would be able to advance their troops quicker knowing they have that support from the air

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not only protection wise but supplies

split aurora
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Russia isn't flying much either

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neither side is doing many missions

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ukraine mainly due to a lack of planes, russia because they'll get instantly sniped down

scarlet crown
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starstreak moment

hollow hollow
split aurora
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Starstreak won't be operational yet

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it takes months to train troops

hollow hollow
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they have/had a-50s parked near the border but they never got airborne, presumably because of fuel shortages

scarlet crown
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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3148

Telegram
Ukraine NOW [English]

UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace told that the Starstreak system — a shoulder-mounted missile that travels at more than three times the speed of sound to take down low-flying enemy jets — was ready to be used imminently in Ukraine.

Mr Wallace also said that the first Ukrainian troops had been trained and were now deployed with Starstreak.

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we do got the first ones already trained

split aurora
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....huh

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well ill be damned

unreal path
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the thing is Russia should be able to control the skies, but it's the same reason they haven't been able to control the ground. they thought this would take a day or two with little work

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they thought Ukraine would collapse almost instantly

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just from the pressure

hollow hollow
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most of it comes back to logistical issues

split aurora
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also

unreal path
split aurora
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russia is famously poor at planning complex air operations

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even in 2008 russia was struggling to fully suppress the Georgian air force

scarlet crown
unreal path
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it's like packing for a trip away from home, you are gonna pack differently if you are gone for 2 days than if you are for 2 months

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they packed for 2 days, and no mater how good you are at rationing you can't make that last for this long

unreal path
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which was such a HUGE miscalculation

split aurora
hollow hollow
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ngl i’ve been waiting for a tu-22 to go down so i can say “looks like that really BACKFIRED on russia!”

split aurora
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thats when lootint starts

unreal path
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I mean there's a good chance they planned that the west or even specific places like Germany would do nothing, and they were wrong there too

scarlet crown
split aurora
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I reckon

unreal path
split aurora
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if they had taken kyiv within 48h

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and had achieved their goals

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then the west... wouldnt have done much

unreal path
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well ofc

split aurora
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applied some sanctions, got very angry

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but accepted it as a way of life

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sooo everything was based on thag

unreal path
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they would do more than what happened with Crimea but not as much as what's being done atm

split aurora
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they gambled everything on one initial assault

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it was a very high risk very high reward

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and it was a fucking stupid risk to take

scarlet crown
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because they were going to fucking Ukraine

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welcome to hell

unreal path
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regardless on how this ends, they failed their objective

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once 2 days past, that was it

split aurora
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plus.... everyone knows now

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russias a paper tiger

unreal path
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you would think a power as big as RUSSIA would have no issue

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but that's the thing they didn't think they would need much

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they thought oh we just need a small amount of our military to take this over no problem

hollow hollow
unreal path
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when they needed A LOT more

split aurora
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like, the long and short of this entire situation is

scarlet crown
split aurora
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20years of building a regime built on corruption and political scheming

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has backfired

hollow hollow
unreal path
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well the thing is, Russia does have a lot of military power, they are just stretched too thin

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if they start pulling away too many troops from other regions that leaves gaps in their security

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and regardless on if the US/NATO/whoever would take advantage of that, Putin wouldn't be able to handle the idea that could happen

scarlet crown
unreal path
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plus just add on top how great Ukraine has been doing

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also remember they don't want to push things either, like to them this still isn't pushing it where WWIII would start

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they could just throw everything at Ukraine, but why

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you would end up leaving youself open to either the West or a growing China

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plus if they threw in too much, they most likely believe that NATO would intervene at that point

hollow hollow
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speaking of china, this past month haas made me even less scared of that paper tiger they call a military, since it heavily relies on russian tech

unreal path
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I mean they do make a lot of their own stuff now

hollow hollow
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considering their track record with making stuff themselves that’s hardly a good thing

unreal path
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China's navy is bigger than the US's atm in terms of number of ships

hollow hollow
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they still can’t make working jet engines

hollow hollow
unreal path
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I have a feeling they put a bit more effort into making sure their military stuff is the best than can make it

split aurora
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Chinas military is fairly untested

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is the main thing

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like

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China has border conflicts with India

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and thats about it?

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meanwhile Americas army is running round the globe regularly

hollow hollow
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another big thing is that the us is also allies with australia, japan, and sk, all of which have decently strong militaries

buoyant sundial
scarlet crown
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oh right sorry, we're just insulting it at this point

silk iron
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Been enjoying the weekend turned the news off for a bit

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there seems to be a lot of talk over Russia sabotaging a renegotiation of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (aka the Iranian nuclear deal which Trump pulled out of - before starting the policy of maximum pressure on Iran)

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not entirely sure what Lavrov said to make an agreement unreachable - and why... (from a logical perspective)

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More importantly there's a change in the Kremlin's tone

scarlet crown
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cool, awaiting changes in their actions

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like stop shelling fucking civilians

silk iron
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there's talks of a more realistic set of war goals from the Russians side - i.e.

  1. Ukrainian Neutrality (not joining NATO)
  2. Ceding The Ukrainian Oblasts of Donetsk and Luhansk to the DPR and LPR respectively
  3. Ukraine no longer recognising Crimea as core Ukrainian territory
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whether Zelensky or the Ukrainian people would be prepared to concede the last two parts is, well sceptical.

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But I'd speculate the West will start putting pressure on Ukraine to reach some form of peace deal in next month or two for the sake of the West's economy. Contrary to what many Russian propogandists and naive people on the internet would have you think; the West does not enjoy instability and devastation on the door of Europe - and the war, although extremely damaging to Russia, is really bad for central/eastern Europe as well.

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Unfortunately the dilemma is;
The easiest and quickest path to peace will involve some form of appeasement
BUT
if too many concessions are made to the Kremlin, the West/Ukraine is condoning Putin's military expansionism once again.
... and this incurs the risk of future "special military operations".
and we all know what happens when a dictator with imperialist ambitions are appeased repeatedly.

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Would a peace treaty reached now save more lives in the long term - who's to say?

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It would certainly save more in the short term

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It's also to Russia's military advantage to reach a temporary ceasefire, to give time to reorganise and resupply their troops

hollow hollow
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ukraine can't afford to agree to neutrality or anything else that leaves them vulnerable, if that happens russia will be back and they will have learned from their mistakes

silk iron
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I disagree that Ukraine will be left entirely vulnerable without being part of NATO

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obviously it's the ideal security blanket

hollow hollow
silk iron
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well...

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Ukraine would have time to construct military fortifications on the Russian border

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Ukraine would be supplied more arms from the West during the peaceful interlude

hollow hollow
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the war is currently a stalemate while russia is doing basically everything wrong

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if they do just a few things right the 2nd time they would win much more easily

silk iron
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Russia would not be able to start a new conflict until they have replenished their lost arsenal from the previous defeat - easier said then done with the silicon chip sanctions

hollow hollow
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they got reserves for days, maybe not the best stuff in the world, but enough of it would get the job done

silk iron
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the Russian tanks factories have stopped assembly due to parts shortages

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they don't have those kind of reserves

hollow hollow
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they have like 10,000 tanks in reserve

silk iron
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most of them aren't armed and/or are out of date

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I don't believe the Russian economy is adequate for maintaining this war beyond a few months

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nor do i think the Russian economy will be in the position to bankroll future invasions with all the sanctions put in place

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...
there was also the Biden faux pas, but i'm pretty sure thats already been discussed to death

hollow hollow
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you mean him calling for putin to be removed from power?

silk iron
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yep never a good diplomatic move to overtly suggest removal of another sovereign country's leader - elected or unelected, tyrant or no tyrant.

hollow hollow
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yeah this was discussed before, personally i 100% support the statement but i get why other people don't

silk iron
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it's just not a good idea, risks raising tensions - nor a feasible one Putin is paranoid they come and knows how not to be a assassinated, working closely with the Stasi after all.

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Best thing for everyone is to hope Putin becomes unwell and unfit to lead or if Putin is removed from power by domestic (ideally non-lethal) intrigue.

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it's late anyhow gn

icy ridge
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So Uhm what

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Isn't this going to be technically conceding to Russia but not?

hollow hollow
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fuck fuck fuck fuck that’s not good

limber wagon
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Also, they've been talking about this forlonger already.

hollow hollow
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yeah i read the title, neutrality isn’t good because then russia will just regroup and come back better-prepared and out for blood

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it’ll help russia more than ukraine

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ukraine cannot settle for neutrality as long as russia is allowed to keep its border regions militarized

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"Discuss" is the key word here

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neutrality allows for russia to rip away the threads ukraine was forming with the west without having to keep fighting

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Neutrality is also a very broad term unlike something like "demilitarisation", though we do know it likely includes at the very least not joining NATO

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But again, the word used is "discuss"

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In recent days, neutrality mainly means not joining NATO

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https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1508336576954253313?s=20&t=---aJ0mJ6L-O0cH-b50-1w https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1508336984128954374?s=20&t=---aJ0mJ6L-O0cH-b50-1w

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Armed Forces: Russia attempts to break through defenses near Kyiv.

According to Ukraine’s Armed Forces, Russian troops are attempting to advance on Kyiv from the northwest and east, capturing nearby roads and villages. Russian forces are currently being held back by Ukraine.

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⚡️ Armed Forces: heavy fighting near Izyum continues.

According to Ukraine’s Armed Forces, Russia continues to attack villages of Topolske, Kamyanka, and Sukha Kamyanka near the city of Izyum, southeast of Kharkiv.

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Yeah

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not mr incredible..

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nothing better than a fine stugna recording to start the day off

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Nice

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8 artys, 10 UAVs

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Notable

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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3207

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Ukraine NOW [English]

⚡️Diplomatic Front: 42 countries have applied to the International Criminal Court in The Hague, hundreds more frozen assets of Russians in the Czech Republic and a ban on exports of goods to Russia and Belarus by Korea

☑️ Support of the world

▪️Yesterday, an international charity telethon supporting Ukraine "Save Ukraine — #StopWar", took pla...

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👀

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the writing in the first pic says "greetings form Russia :)"

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thanks for the tank donation

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@viral junco cool gun

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Good thread

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tldr: russian roads are shit, entire logistic network relies on rail.... little homemade bomb/molotov can destroy relay boxes and fuck up their entire logistics network

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Russia has big production centres

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a lot of them in siberia/the east

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or round the urals

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you fuck up those railways

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they can't move anything from factory to front line

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nice

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So our hackers dug up this russian document, dating march 21st 2022, ordering to spread misinformation about abusive actions towards POWs to discredit ukrainian military, mainly due to numerous footage of us actually treating them well, resulting in russian soldiers surrendering way more willingly

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What also makes it interesting is that it's signed by a "temporary" minister of defence, D. Bulgakov

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so where the fuck is Shoygu

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the $50 million russian Su-35 got shot down near Izium, and the pilot was captured, apparently he was standing on his knees with fear in his eyes https://twitter.com/SputnikATO/status/1508335883870736387?s=20&t=1RwCH-o7E4bFmtDvlUIsag

⚡️Спутник News АТО 🇺🇦 (@SputnikATO)

Приятно рано утром посмотреть как на поле под Изюмом горят обломки «суперсовременного» Су-35 за 50 миллионов долларов

А перепуганный вражеский летчик стоит на коленях с ужасом в глазах.

“Су-35” под Изюмом был сбит 24 марта нашими ПВО.

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its war,both sides will spam misinformation and propaganda

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nice

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could someone do this to fox news too

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pls

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based, agreed

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also GBNews

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which is fox news but British and has a viewership of about 7 people

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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3209

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Ukraine NOW [English]

⚡️President Volodymyr Zelenskiy told "The Economist" yesterday that the European Union links the embargo on Russian gas and oil to the possible use of chemical weapons in Ukraine. The President condemned the decision to impose an embargo depending on whether Russia launches a chemical attack in Ukraine.

In addition, Zelenskiy noted the fact tha...

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thats the equivalent of 4years of GDP

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God damn

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Jesus

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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3215 cat kitty cat cat kitty cat cat

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Ukraine NOW [English]

🇺🇦😸 The well-known Kharkiv cat Stepan has raised more than 10 thousand dollars for several Ukrainian zoo organizations.

"Your contributions are priceless — thanks to your support, we might provide decent care and treatment for every animal in Ukraine", Stepan said.

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awh

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I like this cat a lot

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glad he and his owners made it out safely from shellings

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Aww ❤️

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Most likely is from spetznaz

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They're sending pretty much everyone here

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from thugs to most "elite" forces

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although the two are practically the same

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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3218

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Ukraine NOW [English]

⚡️ The G7 countries (USA, Canada, UK, Germany, France, Italy and Japan) have rejected Russia's demand to pay for gas in Russian rubles.

"Payment in rubles is unacceptable," said German Economy Minister Robert Habeck.

When he was asked about a possible boycott by Russia, he said: "We are ready for any scenario."

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Way to go Russia

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video of what's claimed to be a crashed su-35. it's a pretty modern plane, russia won't be too happy about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y2-ljhfjO4

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Russian SU-35 Jet reportedly shot down and destroyed by Ukrainian f...

"#Ukraine: After a while with no shootdowns, the Ukrainian side claims to have taken down a Russian Su-35 jet fighter on March 24th near #Izyum.

We cannot verify the precise type, but the single pilot survived and footage is previously unseen so this claim is credible." Link to tweet - https://t.co/40fqRyx5A4

Russia have declared war and an ...

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i think the pilot was also captured, haven't found video tho

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bruh moment

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a little bit reassuring

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I wonder if they still want to host Euro 2028

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hopefully putler and his minions are out of power by then

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They couldn’t even come up with new icons

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I’m talking mainly about the m777

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US mortars use clip-on charges

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It really doesn’t matter if they use clips or tie the propellant on, in the end it still works, they probably figured out that it is more efficient and reliable to do it this way, just like the us figured they don’t need to add an auto loader to our main field artillery

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Or like how our tanks are manually loaded vs the autoloaders of Russia

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One of the only things the us military moved out of service recently was the Kiowa, and that’s only because every other helicopter except the chinook can do it’s job

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The airforce was planning to move the A10 out of service years ago, but I guess they saw that was a really dumb idea considering half the generals probably served in desert storm as an LT

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fr tho it’s crazy to think the last civil war vets were still alive when buff first flew and its last pilot still isn’t born yet

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and they serve a very niche role in modern warfare

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A modern design could do the job better

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it just isn't worth the cost

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as opposed to the B-52 being this eternal marvel of engineering

scarlet crown
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the propaganda machine blurped up an error
Skabeyeva here states that "one month of special operation is not enough to capture a european country this big"

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lmao

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fucking lunatics

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so, where are the claims of "we'll take Kyiv in just 3 days" now??

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https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1508463513013997580 a thread

Bellingcat (@bellingcat)

Bellingcat can confirm that three members of the delegation attending the peace talks between Ukraine and Russia on the night of 3 to 4 March 2022 experienced symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons. One of victims was Russian entrepreneur Roman Abramovich.

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god damn

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holy fuck

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whole thread tldr: 3 members of the peace talk delegation were poisoned by an unknown party using an unknown chemical agent -> caused significant but non-lethal symptoms which cleared after a week

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yeah it’s not the greatest machine ever, but it’s still impressive

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good luck maintaining them without spare parts being imported

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Thats why you gut grounded ones

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hey guys, maybe this is why you shouldn't invest in unstable autocratic states

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lmfao

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just a thought :p

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It aint a permanent solution, but it definitely can keep them in the air longer

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And after that, just lower your safety standards

hollow hollow
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and when those run out they are fukt

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I mean

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they can still get hold of spare parts

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its just less convenient

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America -> China -> Russia

hollow hollow
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true that

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or America -> CSTO ally -> Russia

hollow hollow
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what about airbus parts?

limber wagon
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I mean, they managed to do it with Iraq

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Why not with russia?

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Russia has been dodging sanctions for ages

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and hiding trade

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Russia officially imports very little food from the EU

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but it imports a lot from south America

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SA buys the food, then sells to russia

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including china and india

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and the west cannot afford a trade war with china/india

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our economy would pop overnight

limber wagon
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You could just tighten the way you sell the parts

split aurora
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How?

limber wagon
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Not allowing reselling to sanctioned countries

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Okay but

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China just says

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"we are not reselling"

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then resells them

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and then what do you do

limber wagon
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Then call them out on their bullshit and take proper actions

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but what action

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We can't sanction them

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because then we enter a trade war with china

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and the entirety of Europes economy relies on china

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I'm not gonna argue such minor details. What I'm saying is that there are always things you can try to do.

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Of course, but, theres not all that much

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in the grand scheme of things

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When theres a will, theres a way

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and russia can dodge sanctions

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but

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its so much less convenient and efficient

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shift + enter to do multiple lines per message btw

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so sanctions still play a massive impact

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They just..... aren't a wholely fool-proof measure, and they do have gaps, especially when nations like china are little shitbags

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then it would just being delivered straight to russia

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And hugely increases cost

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i still don’t believe that shoigu is alive

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send em in hazmat suits next time

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its... relatively unsurprising tbh

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given they went into Belarusian territory

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I don't think it's a case of being surprised/unsurprised

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this is not a fucking show

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Poisoning someone on your side isn't the smartest idea putin

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Wait, you're supposed to poison the other side? /j

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there is a joking saying that describes it perfectly

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"бей своих чтоб чужие боялись"

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aka beat your own so the others would fear

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"Ukraine poisoned us to frame us for framing them"

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yup mhm sounds about right

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wouldn't it be funny if Russia nuked itself to frame Ukraine and nuke others

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None of them entered Belarus

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we also only know that abramovich was poisoned

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they don't disclose who are the other 2

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I thought they were on the belarus side of the border

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fair

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Those were informal negotiations

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Not the official ones that took place in Belarus

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That's only fair

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i see

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didn't realise those took place

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the informal ones

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They only mention that another Russian businessman and a Ukrainian MP called Rustem Umerov were present

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2minute 20sec long quite interesting footage

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according to comments, apparently at the end they are shouting that they are shooting at russians by mistake

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lmao

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(cant verify as I don't speak russian and untrusted source)

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lmao yeah can confirm

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god, people used to live there and kids would play on those streets

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and why are these guys just throwing away their rpgs

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the Javelins and NLAWs being given to ukraine are the same I believe

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madlads

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theyre so compact and portable as they're single shot

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if only there were less of them (russians)

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you get one shot, then throw the weapon away

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its now a useless hunk of metal

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not at all, don't you understand

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it's a close encounter melee weapon!

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lmao

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true

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Newest russian technology

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no country had ever seen such height pf thought

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Ah, javelin missiles can be reloaded, NLAWs can not

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NLAWs are like <1/5th the cost which might at least partially explain it

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welp, it has been verified

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😬

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fuck

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Theres a lot of question marks still, and the claim about final destination of the refugees forcibly moved is still stated only by ukraine govt, but the force movement of an amount of people has been confirmed

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very horrible to see

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but similar to how russia acted in chechnya

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they're just killing themselves

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intelligence and the russian troops don't go well together ein

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see: how everything they've done so far has gone for em

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most of them probably dont even know what theyre doing

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what da russian occupant doin

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https://kyivindependent.com/national/facing-resistance-in-occupied-kherson-russian-forces-crack-down-on-disobedient-residents/

The Kyiv Independent
Igor Kossov
Facing resistance in occupied Kherson, Russian forces crack down on...

Editor’s Note: The Kyiv Independent used false names for all sources who spoke from Kherson Oblast for this story, for the sake of security.  Life is getting worse in the city of Kherson, which has been occupied by Russian forces for nearly a month. The near-total absence of critical drugs […]

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fucking monsters

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# scarlet crown

I honestly wouldn't put too much stock in to any reports about "radioactive dust" and "imminent danger" unless they're actively bombing a nuclear power plant again or its from a source known to reliably report about nuclear related stuff. Most people know nothing other than radiation = bad, and as a result this stuff typically get overblown by the media and people in general because of it.

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I'm not saying doing stupid shit in an exclusion zone aint stupid beyond belief, but it likely just means the people being stupid are more likely to get cancer. Not that there will be radioactive dust clouds over all of europe as some articles or tweets or whatever were suggesting

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no one said anything about radioactive clouds man

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only that occupants will just give themselves free xrays

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There were definitely some talk about that. Dunno if that was here or somewhere else tho

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just scroll up, there hasn't been any here after i posted it

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Not after, but this isn't the first time this topic has been discussed

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Yeah previous topics were mainly just fearmongering

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this one is just about ruskies firing themselves in the leg once more, calm down

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finally

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some common sense

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seems like its getting somewhere

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The proposal sounds very good imo

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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3243

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🤷‍♀️ Students and factory workers from the self-styled Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) were sent to the Sumy region to "liberate" the Ukrainian people from who knows whom

But, something about the fighting spirit of the liberators quickly disappeared, and they ask the RF to bring them back home:

"Bring us back to Donbas, they put us with machi...

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As far as I‘m aware, they mainly got this info from the Ukrainian side though I suppose they know people on both sides

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Uhm, was there a suspected Poisoning of Russian Oligarchs and Ukrainian Negotiators??

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yes

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yes

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https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/2007

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Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

🛑 In Kharkiv, Russian occupiers destroyed an architectural monument

During the missile attack on residential areas, Russian occupiers' troops hit one of the oldest landmarks in Kharkiv. The building was severely damaged.

The fire station was built in 1887 and has the status of an architectural monument of local significance. As a result of t...

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doubtful

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Well yeah, Max Seddon is their bureau chief for Moscow

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Few days ago they claimed that main goals of negotiations are to denazify, demilitarise, yatta yatta

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as if Ukraine was accepting those terms

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which it wasn't

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They missed to specify those were russian demands solely

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Russia on the other hand yes

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A serious blunder, yes, but doesn't ruin the reputation of a very well respected newspaper

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.

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yeah

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FT are, while pro-capitalist biased, known as one of the most reliable and generally trusted newspapers in the west

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as one would say

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[doubt]

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(Referring to reports today about the suspected poisoning of several members of the Ukrainian delegation): https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1508547944869339137

Christo Grozev (@christogrozev)

We don't yet know exactly what happened or who did it. We do know something happened at the same time to three healthy people people on the day of crucial negotiations. Calling it "environmental artefacts" has the same air of plausibility like saying @navalny had low blood sugar.

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step by step

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we sure are, tails from mcdonalds, we sure are

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Awful devastation

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And even besides no one in their right mind willing to give away a part of their country under normal circumstances, what do you think would happen if you do? Would it encourage or discourage Russia to do the exact thing again and again?

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I can't imagine being stuck in a city under siege, let alone for weeks

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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3270

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🏃‍♀️Ukrainians have launched a website where English-speaking readers can "walk" the streets of Russian "Liberators' Hometowns"

➡️ liberatorhometown.com

This website was created to show the hometowns of the Russian soldiers who invaded Ukraine and died.

You can see broken houses, crooked fences, terrible playgrounds. Their cities look like ...

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just look at this shit

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and these people came here to teach us how to live?

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sorry, what does that mean?

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It means that of the total Russian population, the poorest 80% of people with the lowest income still have less total wealth than the 0.001% richest people.

Or in actual numbers. The 1441 richest people still have more money than the poorest 115.280.000 people

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jesus

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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3273

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General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: over the previous day, our forces hit 17 air targets — 8 aircraft, 3 helicopters, 4 UAVs of various types and 2 cruise missiles

🇺🇦Divisions of the Defense Forces continue to conduct a defense operation in the Eastern, South-Eastern and North-Eastern directions. On all of them, the Armed Forces of Uk...

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4 planes, that'll cost em a good bit

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Seeing as one of them was 50m

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Planes are expensive

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Unless ukraine didn't do the funny time change abfouple days ago

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should be correct

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Remember when I mentioned the students in my school?

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One of the former students is doing an aid thing near the border with ukraine to help refugees and the school is hosting a non uniform day for it

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Nice

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Thats an interesting change of tune, as prior they only accepted russia or belarus

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prior official talks happened on the belarus/ukraine border

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Kind of ridiculous how it took them so many sanctions and restrictments to finally understand that they gotta step over their pride a bit

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I doubt anything will come out of these negotiations

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Gotta love the propaganda machine

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https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/2022

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Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

🛑 Consequences of the morning attack on Mykolaiv

🔻 On the morning of March 29th, the Russians fired on the building of the Mykolayiv Regional State Administration, said the head of the regional state administration Vitaliy Kim.

🔻 “Mostly, people miraculously survived. This is from 50 to 100 people. We are currently looking for eight civilia...

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A feature of Russia's war against Ukraine is the aggressor's desire to inflict the most human suffering, – the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Ruslan Stefanchuk during the Conference of Speakers of the EU Parliaments (EUSC).

"How else can one explain the targeted shelling and bombing of residential areas, hospitals, schools, churches,...

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shoygu appeared after his big disappearance. He claims that the first phase of "special operation" is done and now they're moving on to their second phase - "liberating" Donbas

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Good luck bozo

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that'll cost 30 planes and 60 tanks per village gained

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russians after they lose more tech and soldiers than in both chechen wars but in return they liberated a shack in Chernihiv:

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Hang on!

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I have a theory

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maybe this is putins plan to recreate the ussr

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the 1917 communist revolution happened as a result of massive loss of life in ww1

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Putins just trying to destroy his army to create the uproar necessary for the 2nd communist revolution

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that's just mad

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(Tis a joke :p)

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fucking cowards

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iirc they have about 95% of one,55% of the other

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out of the 2 provinces in donbass

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sooo still a not insignificant amount to fight for

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Mariupol could turn very decisive

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when that folds, russias freed up a huge amount of troops

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so its a matter of when, and where do they go

scarlet crown
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so far Mariupol is still standing

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mhmm, but its slowly losely ground

scarlet crown
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mainly because of constant bombings, they're really erasing the whole fucking city

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yeaaah

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fucking horrifying man

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yet another day of threats

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loonies

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Hell it would be incredibly not in Western interests to start a cyber war

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simply just since russia can hit us back as hard as we can hit them

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something not true for sanctions/weapons aid etc.

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tldr: russias 10k reserve tank pile is mostly being used for spare parts, and they don't have trained men to make up for losses anyway

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https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/2026

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❗️ Amnesty International accuses Russia of committing war crimes in Mariupol

"The siege of Mariupol, the refusal to evacuate for humanitarian reasons, and the failure to provide humanitarian corridors for the withdrawal of civilians, as well as attacks on civilians, are, as Amnesty International's investigation shows, war crimes," — said Amnest...

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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3305

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Ukraine NOW [English]

Everyone in Ukraine has united and is devoting all their energy to the defense of our state. Together with the Armed Forces, together with all our defenders, together with our National Guard.

Photo: Vadim Ghirda, Alex Lourie, Raphaël Lafargue, Alexey Furman.

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https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/2035

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Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

😓 According to the UN, more than 3.8 million people have been forced to flee Ukraine, making this the fastest-growing refugee crisis since World War II.

On top of that, another 6.5 million were relocated within the country. And, unfortunately, these numbers are growing every day

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Embed fail?

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another post from Kadyrov, supposedly praying with a rifle at a ukrainian gas station... too bad Ukraine has no "rosneft" gas stations

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honestly, fair

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but I don't think anyone would be willing to just give up their land to russkies

limber wagon
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But I do not think this is how you are supposed to store expensive machinery

scarlet crown
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really.

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just there.

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on a fucking polygon.

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no roof no anything?

limber wagon
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Though then again, they do the same thing for aircrafts

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Wait actually no, thats not true. I retract that

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This is an aircraft boneyard. Specifically for storing old aircraft just in case mostly

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and because they can still be used for parts and its expensive to actually destroy aircraft

scarlet crown
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so maybe those pictures are from a boneyard for tanks too?

limber wagon
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And it should also be noted that these things are mostly placed in Arid climates, where there is less corrosion

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The last 2 at least. I think the top 2 are from a different place

scarlet crown
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twitter moment

lilac sparrow
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We store our vehicles on flight lines and motorpool which are just giant parking lots

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Nvm it’s a pick a part for tanks

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Ukrainian negotiator: Poland, Israel, Canada and Turkey could be guarantors of Ukraine's security under future agreement with Russia - Reuters

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Dream team

paper cedar
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Turkey might

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Israel and Canada won't give a shit

scarlet crown
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and where did you get that from

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I mean, I don't doubt that all 4 will agree to be garuntors

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just canada and israel don't really have interest in ukraine - and I can't see them doing a whole lot to aid in its protection

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Where poland does, and has shown, a huge amount of interest and desire to defend ukraine

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and Turkey has anti-russian interests which will give them an interest in helping protect ukraine

scarlet crown
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fair

split aurora
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I do think poland being there is significant, very significant

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Poland will move heaven and earth to help a fellow eastern European state out against russia

scarlet crown
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Tbh I don't think many expected Poland to help us so much

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I was presently surprised

scarlet crown
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it definitely marks the beginning of new relations between Poland and Ukraine

scarlet crown
split aurora
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Yeah, autocorrect strikes again :p

copper monolith
stark inlet
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Most of the good stuff comes from local communities/authorities

copper monolith
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Probs gonna relocate their troops to the eastern front

scarlet crown
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yes

copper monolith
leaden grove
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They‘d definitely need additional support though

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As for Israel, I think they just don’t want to threaten their relationship with Russia

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radical

scarlet crown
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these fuckers so full of pride they'll never admit defeat

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"Its not retreat, its advancing in a different direction"

copper monolith
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👍 it's 🇷🇺 all 🤪 going 😎 to 👌 plan ✌️

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starting in early april

split aurora
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10th

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I don't really know the candidates

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but Macrons first

copper monolith
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is le pen second there

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Macrons enjoyed a like 5% popularity boost from this wat

limber wagon
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10/10 colour scheme

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all them calls to putn

copper monolith
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I know nothing about the candidates other then that they are french

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which is an immediate bad sign

limber wagon
copper monolith
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le pen is the far right one that once had all the trumpies going crazy over her

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omg I just saw an adorable cat

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c:

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cat sat right infront of me, let me get within a couple metres before scampering

split aurora
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thats not cool

copper monolith
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didn't get one sadly, it scampered as I pulled camera out

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I think I got the top of the head behind the bush

scarlet crown
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kherson be getting closer

copper monolith
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nice to see Lukhask isn't completely coloured red, and is mostly contested instead

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like look at this shit, there's almost nothing left (wikipedia)

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the live ua map is also colouring the entire Luhansk region, with the exception of Lysychansk

keen sorrel
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Making an area of the map red doesn't actually mean anything

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It's a best a vague indicator of where fighting is likely

scarlet crown
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yep

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thus why british maps include contested areas

split aurora
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also as well early into the war especially

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when a convoy would drive along one road

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and map makers would shade in the entire region surrounding that road

hollow hollow
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yeah this isn’t hoi4, there aren’t clear-cut boundaries and you don’t capture land just by driving thru it

split aurora
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aye

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nor is this the first world war

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with clear hard defined frontiers

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this is very asymmetrical warfare, where rough shading areas of conflict make a lot more sense then trying to draw hard front lines, because they simply don't exist

scarlet crown
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also the guy who told the russian warship to fuck off is confirmed alive (on the right)

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keen sorrel
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This'd be much simpler if it was like battlefield and which flag is on a flagpole in the middle of the territory decides whose it is

scarlet crown
copper monolith
# copper monolith https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1508792391502807047?t=FI2vxzVAVDImosj...

meanwhile in south Ukraine, big column in Kherson reportedly on it's way to Mylovaiv https://twitter.com/hochu_dodomu/status/1508730518564753409?s=20&t=RSgfMZvXvSqS-XpC5T0dkw

hochu domoy v UA (@hochu_dodomu)

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places 10 flags round moscow

Moscow is encircled! hurrar!

copper monolith
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whatever happened to the man that threw molotovs at the Kremlin wall

split aurora
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Drives one ukranian tank to the edge of moscow
Russia has capitulated

scarlet crown
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probably dead or imprisoned

scarlet crown
split aurora
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its not worth the bad PR to get rid of a couple teenagers

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the perpetrators probably disappeared into the night, or if they were caught, given a small-ish prison sentence (by russian standards)

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killing people is messy, throwing them in prison for a year is far cleaner and easier

scarlet crown
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ehhh

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to my knowledge standards arent that bad, relative

leaden grove
copper monolith
leaden grove
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According to the Netherlands they were spies working under diplomatic cover

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the uk expelled the entire russian embassy after novichok

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surprised they havent done the same here

leaden grove
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I don‘t think they want the embassy to shut down completely

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I‘m very curious as to what Austria is gonna do because apparently Vienna is more or less the main city for Russian spies right now

limber wagon
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You generally don't want to shut down embassies if you can help it. They're useful tools for communication between countries.

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So thats why a country might be hesitant, even with the current circumstances.

split aurora
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mhmm

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the uks one of the few nations with an embassy from North Korea, interesting fun fact

leaden grove
split aurora
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yeah

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They're just as useful for citizens

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if a British citizen abroad runs into trouble, they know they can turn to the British embassy for help and advice

stark inlet
scarlet crown
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the guy is all talk and 0 action

copper monolith
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what an interesting spotify ad

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"your call can return peace"

scarlet crown
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huh

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copper monolith
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👀

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https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1508787161021227012?s=20&t=AiAudENwv6v8FMgw-jROuA https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1508787898065342466?s=20&t=AiAudENwv6v8FMgw-jROuA

Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto)

Breaking: Russia is beginning to withdraw some forces from around the Ukrainian capital Kyiv, in what the US assesses is a “major” strategy shift, two senior US officials tell me. US is already observing movements underway of Russian Battalion Tactical Groups (BTGs) 1/

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2/ In the US view, this is not a short-term adjustment to regroup, but a longer-term move as Russia comes to grips with failure to advance in the north. Russian MOD said Tuesday it has decided to “drastically reduce hostilities” in the Kyiv and Chernihiv directions.

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4 Russian diplomats asked to leave Dublin embassy

copper monolith
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no gate?

leaden grove
leaden grove
wicked panther
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damn

paper cedar
leaden grove
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Yup!

split aurora
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wew

scarlet crown
copper monolith
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https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/3346

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Ukraine NOW [English]

⚡️Russian criminals continue to kidnap leaders of Ukrainian communities

Today, Oleksandr Shapovalov the Head of Beryslav and Oleksandr Babych the Head of Gola Prystan were abducted, - said Vitaliy Klitschko, who is the chairman of the Association of Ukrainian Cities.

During the war, since February 24, the occupiers abducted 11 mayors and eig...

copper monolith
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god damn it

ebon creek
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This may be a stupid question to ask but

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Why is Russia invading them?

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Do they want land? Power? Revenge?

scarlet crown
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honestly there is no one concrete reason for all of this

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since they change reasons like gloves

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When this "special operation" was first announced, the goal was to "denazify" and demilitarise Ukraine

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because for some reason they concluded that Ukraine has been suffering from nazis

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Then a week in, one of the reasons became that, if they had not invaded, Ukraine would strike Belarus

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Then later they claimed that Ukraine fell a colony to the west and that's why they're doing it

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There is really no concrete reason, even if we talk gain wise

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the only reasonable thing to invade us for is to maximize agriculture and be this one food giant of the world

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but apart from that I really can't find a reason why

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same can be asked about invasions on Georgia, Chechnya

split aurora
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Pride and legacy were the case for those

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Wouldn't surprise me if Putin wants to conquer ukraine for reputation and honour, both for himself and russia internationally

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"Look at how powerful I am, I conquered ukraine in 3days and begun to rebuild the USSR"

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Course.... it failed

scarlet crown
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That is a viable factor too: a victory like this could boost his already lowering ratings

scarlet crown
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what a surprise!

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Initially I thought that there was a very small glimmer of hope that Macron might somehow move forward with his plan, but oh well

scarlet crown
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I half-expected him to send in a small contingent of French and allied troops to make sure that an evacuation can take place, but I guess he's too scared after all

leaden grove
limber wagon
ebon creek
leaden grove
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Yup

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Like what did he expect

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ebon creek
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True

leaden grove
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Putin's not gonna suddenly change his mind about Mariupol just because Macron asks him once

split aurora
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its a very widely known trick for world leaders to use wars to distract from internal issues

leaden grove
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yeah

ebon creek
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Like what internal issues?

leaden grove
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The economy

ebon creek
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Oh

leaden grove
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And also the fact that he is slowly destroying all traces of democracy left in the country

ebon creek
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rip

leaden grove
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With Novaja Gaseta gone, there are only regional independent press outlets left

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and even those are being targeted now

scarlet crown
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and also the fact that almost every other place in Russia besides Petersburg and Moscow are barely up to living standards

leaden grove
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^^

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The big cities are very modern and used to have all the amenities you'd want (until sanctions) if you had the money, but many smaller places struggle a lot

scarlet crown
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they're just so used to living in absolute trash and misery

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it's sad

ebon creek
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@leaden grove i can see in your name you have three other flags other than ukraine. Are all of those countries getting invaded too?

leaden grove
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Oh no, they're not being invaded right now, and I certainly hope they never get invaded again

ebon creek
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That’s unfortunate

leaden grove
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Those are the flags of three Baltic states from north to south, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, all of which used to be part of the Soviet Union

split aurora
leaden grove
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oh god, thanks

ebon creek
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Yeaaahh i haven’t been in this chat as much as you guys have

leaden grove
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Well, I'm glad you're here now!

ebon creek
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Thanks

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I just can’t believe such an atrocity is taking place

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In 2022 no less

leaden grove
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Me neither, though sadly some people in my country are still very oblivious to it

split aurora
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Similar atrocities have been happening for years in several other countries, its horrific, but not at all out of the imagination

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:/

ebon creek
split aurora
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Yes

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Right now

ebon creek
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Oh