the_ukraine_situation

[scarlet crown]

molchat doma?

[copper monolith]

ye

wanted to go to their concert in Vilnius last november, but was pretty busy 😔

[scarlet crown]

this is just ridiculous

[stark inlet]

"By the way, there's a bit more evidence against you [a link to Navalny's team investigation]"
"Judging by your pfp, you're a [f-word]"
Rogozin is the head of Roscosmos, Russia's space agency.

[copper monolith]

"you may have evidence that I'm a nazi, but uh, ur probably gay lmao"

I mean they do, just not the ones that decide to bomb apartments and maternity wards

[scarlet crown]

they really don't have any ideas of their own do they

First they stole the greeting "Слава Україні" and made it into "Слава России"

then when a tiktok trend of ours started about people not planning to move anywhere because it's their home

they just fucking stole it without changing the context

songs made about russian aggression they also steal and revert

and now fucking "russian lives matter"

come the fuck on, how low can you go

[copper monolith]

I'm reading the replies and all the russian speakers are absolutely destroying this wretched excuse of a person lmao

god that made me feel better after reading his tweet

[mighty tusk]

not bad at all

good job

[scarlet crown]

at first i was like "why is this report in fortnite font"

only then i realised

[mighty tusk]

lol

also note this wont just be a dry content period either

new battle pass within it

so that's gonna be a lot of money

[scarlet crown]

oh truly lots of it

time to make use of children wasting their parents credit card money

[limber wagon]

Lots of russian drones today and yesterday

Also almost 1k vehicles

Or already way more if you also include all the other categories that are basically also vehicles

[copper monolith]

epic

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1639

[split aurora]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/ukraine-suspends-labour-law-war-russia/

ugh :/

ukraine is mass stripping worker rights

what are the bets those never return after the war

[copper monolith]

[copper monolith]

they fuckin' better return

[split aurora]

I hope so

but, as they say

"Theres nothing more permenant then a temporary measure"

[leaden grove]

People love using the shock caused by war or other crises to push through measures that would have no popular support otherwise

[split aurora]

they sending in parts of Wagner? 👀

God I hope they get wiped out

the wagner group is made up of human rights abusing fascists, the worst of the russians

[leaden grove]

Well, they‘re mercenaries

[split aurora]

yeah

used by putin to do the dirty work he doesn't want a Russian flag attached to

[leaden grove]

Mhm

[scarlet crown]

yep, supreme fertiliser, for sale

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=274592804852147&set=pcb.274599368184824 Intelligence service of Ukraine on their facebook page posts documents of possible militarisation of minors in Russia

[copper monolith]

[scarlet crown]

if previously we had seen pows of 19, 20, 21 years of age, it'll be horrifying to see soldiers even younger

[split aurora]

as in, recruiting? or sending into combat?

afaik theres no international law against recruiting minors

not sure about the latter

[split aurora]

the UK noteably allows 15year olds to enlist, something we rightfully get a lot of shit for

ah

got it

https://casebook.icrc.org/glossary/child-soldiers

The Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child differentiates between States and non-State armed groups in setting the age-limit for recruitment and use in hostilities. For States, the age limit for direct participation in hostilities and for compulsory recruitment is 18. This means they can accept voluntary enlistment of persons between the ages of 15 and 18. Armed groups, on the other hand, are bound by a stricter prohibition, affecting both voluntary and compulsory recruitment of under-18s.

15 for voluntary recruitment

18 for conscription / sending to war

[leaden grove]

The minimum age is 17 here, but yeah, minors must not be deployed

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2237

kadyrovcy went home lmao

[split aurora]

lmao

nice

[scarlet crown]

this war truly ruined their "reputation"

i've seen a few interviews regarding this topic, but what's basically happening is russians and other nations actually begin to fear kadyrovcy less

during their time under Putin's leash, they would constantly threaten people, make them beg for forgiveness, etc

in russian circles, they were the most feared group

but then they invaded Ukraine

suffered pretty big losses there

had seen our army men and people actually sending them threats in their usual style

so the whole psychology just broke, they could never imagine something like this happening

that people aren't afraid of them? that they're the ones being called out now? just how is it possible

and russians are catching up on it because they actually begin to see what this shame to Chechnya is all about

[copper monolith]

Bro don't announce it publicly smh https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505518177932955649?t=cYn7cgCub8_bu-ax0XyZuA&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Ukraine’s military intelligence claim that Russia’s elites scheme to overthrow Putin to restore economic ties with Western countries.

Aleksandr Bortnikov, head of FSB security agency, is allegedly being considered as Putin’s successor, according to Ukraine's intelligence.

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 12:14 PM

Unless Bortnikov is very dangerous and pro putin and this is just a scheme to get him removed lol

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505517714063900673?t=VQhV62pIeRLQMGcIz0DGzw&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Death toll reaches 56 in Russian tank attack at nursing home in Luhansk Oblast on March 11.

Russians moved 15 survivors to a facility on the occupied territories.

Ukrainians still can't reach the site of the attack.

Source: Serhiy Hayday, the governor of Luhansk Oblast.

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 12:12 PM

[split aurora]

yknow

the fact its being shared publicly by a minor newspaper

makes me think that.... the authenticity and or significance is shaky at best

[copper monolith]

One can only wish 😔

[viral junco]

could be something like the "trotskyist plot" that stalin accused people of for his purges

[stark inlet]

On the other hand making him paranoid might have its upsides

But pointing out specific people is a nono

[copper monolith]

Wtf https://twitter.com/Der_Parrot/status/1505269628469141509?t=844WRYL3fgbE__GZUsypvw&s=19

Der Kraut (@Der_Parrot)

I just noticed that far-right and far-left German Putin simps started calling it "Zelenskys war" which is a really insidious and disgusting lie. Have Putin's simps in your country started doing the same?

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Twitter · Mar 19, 2022, 7:47 PM

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1505227149225205764?t=KabSftvVci9huN52VCo2Gw&s=19

OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical)

The Ukrainians continue to flood the Irpin River floodplain in order to block the Russian advance into Kyiv.

This is what it looks like now in the village of Demydiv.

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Twitter · Mar 19, 2022, 4:58 PM

[hollow hollow]

btr (i think) gunner annihilating russian armor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdRDONDWMBs

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505530084689686529?t=I6EIUDbx3bUGsiKVoa-Rqg&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Ukraine’s General Staff sees high risk of attack from Belarus on western Ukraine.

Ukraine’s Armed Forces have said that according to Ukrainian intelligence, in the next several days, Belarus will join Russia in its invasion of Ukraine.

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 1:01 PM

[proven steppe]

fuck

[split aurora]

havent they been saying this for 2+ weeks

[scarlet crown]

yeah

but now it seems the risk is higher than ever

doubtful, but still a risk

[viral junco]

like russia, i believe belarus has an army deprived of arms due to the huge police budget

[scarlet crown]

fucking occupants in Berdyansk are using force on protesters

[copper monolith]

Expected

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1505506023091625986?t=NSSPryzV7D7BDVcb18NaPg&s=19

🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons)

#Ukraine: Somewhere in the South, the 80th Air Assault Brigade captured/destroyed a D-30 howitzer, several supply trucks and a BTR-80 of the Russian Army.

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 11:26 AM

https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1505526320012402688?t=k3qXbmKYIJvRpDLAUMp4bw&s=19

НГУ (@ng_ukraine)

Imagine, it was Sunday morning and you were sleeping with you kids

#CloseTheSky #RussiaInvadedUkraine #SaveUkraine #StopRussia

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 12:47 PM

[viral junco]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/russian-mercenaries-in-ukraine-linked-to-far-right-extremists

[stark inlet]

[limber wagon]

Thank you for sharing a screenshot of the article but not the article itself

[hushed magnet]

who wouldve guessed

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1505504270828904448?t=Xi_0P0ZOOFST3SPbPfC-XA&s=19

🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons)

#Ukraine: As it turns out, not all Western aid is helpful. Sometimes it even becomes dangerous.

According to Ukrainian fighters, two Czech STV Group LGL-7 grenade launchers burst after a few shots. As a result, two soldiers were injured - severed ear and broken collarbone.

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 11:19 AM

[limber wagon]

yikes

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/EerikNKross/status/1505283258245865474?t=O-GS3c02O5WU7TnNKisBhA&s=19

Eerik-Niiles Kross (@EerikNKross)

🇷🇺 sources confirm that 🇺🇦 forces killed the deputy commander of the 🇷🇺 Black Sea Fleet captain I rank Andrei Paly. He deserted Ukrainian navy in 1993, took part of 🇷🇺 invasion of Georgia in 2008 and occupation of Crimea in 2014.
https://t.co/33pYVOANfH

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Twitter · Mar 19, 2022, 8:41 PM

[split aurora]

I mean, this isn't really an issue of "Western Aid"

All weapons have failure rates

And, well, its unfortunate but not anyones fault

yes the rates are increased because these are warehoused stock

but you're still safer attacking a russian convoy with a not-properly maintained weapon then your fists

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1505260472492347395?t=TfN-4h5nIoE6WzpBWR4Q1Q&s=19

Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24)

Belarusian railway workers today sabotaged the railway lines leading to Ukraine, making it impossible for the Russians to resupply by train.

The Russian logistics situation near Kyiv just went from bad to worse.

It’s the largest sabotage action in Belarus so far during this war

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Twitter · Mar 19, 2022, 7:10 PM

[limber wagon]

Very nice

https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1505542071171624961?s=20&t=pNuk3jlF5P4JEkhVSLvZfw

C O U P S U R E (@COUPSURE)

The flooded area alongside the Irpin River is growing. The flood is now approaching Horenka near Bucha/Irpin. This makes crossing the Irpin River very difficult and will force Russian forces to build vulnerable pontoon bridges.

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▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 1:49 PM

[leaden grove]

Interesting, does anyone happen to know how many people still haven’t been evacuated from the area?

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1660

[copper monolith]

[scarlet crown]

you know you went too far if even the pope gets on twitter

[copper monolith]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60793446

[limber wagon]

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1505555815054331910?s=20&t=RfcUqpu_8zV3JIbQcnW3fw

Euromaidan Press (@EuromaidanPress)

Another video from today's anti-occupation protest in Kherson shows a Russian truck retreating as some protesters are approaching it.

📹@ukrpravda_news
https://t.co/yiimYP6LRX

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▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 2:44 PM

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505583937963401221?s=20&t=jkMxQG8X1joctoyQiLH2Ww

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Germany reaches energy deal with Qatar to reduce dependency on Russia.

“The companies that have come to Qatar with (German Economy Minister) will now enter into contract negotiations with the Qatari side,” the spokesperson for the ministry said.

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 4:35 PM

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505579325202051074?s=20&t=jkMxQG8X1joctoyQiLH2Ww

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Zelensky: 'Ukraine cannot compromise on its territorial integrity.'

President Zelensky told CNN that Ukrainians won’t accept any deal involving the loss of territory or sovereignty.

“There are compromises for which we cannot be ready as an independent state,” said Zelensky.

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 4:17 PM

[fierce arch]

the only way ukraine could get a peace treaty is if they ceded some portion of their land

so

thats out of the question now

[copper monolith]

then there won't be a peace treaty

[fierce arch]

which is kind of an issue

[split aurora]

Ukraine won't accept losing land

Russia won't accept not gaining land

[scarlet crown]

giving land away would be a bigger issue

they just won't stop there and everyone knows that

current negotiations are probably done for a checkmark, Russia won't ever step away from it's insane "compromises"

i personally don't believe that we'll be able to solve this war through peace treaties

not with Putin's Russia

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1666

[limber jolt]

@scarlet crown the only way I see it happening like that is if Russia does something that lets their propaganda claim victory

which is unlikely to be something Ukraine would allow either

[limber wagon]

Poor putin, won't be able to stop his army from murdering people unless he can save face

[limber jolt]

I mean he's a dictator, this is how they operate, do whatever they can to make sure they can be made to look good in propaganda

gotta keep the people complacent with your tyranny or distracted from it

since I can speak and read some Russian I've been able to follow these events a bit more closely without needing to have everything translated, which does help

I can piece together some of Ukrainian but not very well, however I have family in both countries

[split aurora]

aaaaaaaaand ukraines decided they'll try a little bit of fascism

[limber wagon]

wtf

Do you have a different perhaps less likely very biased source?

[scarlet crown]

Yeahhh this sounds like a very heavy russian narrative

[split aurora]

I only found one other source, which was very pro-ukraine

gimme 2 seconds

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3434673-nsdc-bans-prorussian-parties-in-ukraine.html

yeah imma remove that initial source

[limber wagon]

Kyiv independent as well https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505438443001765890?s=20&t=ED1ST7XsYwMYyjjwub8V9g

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Ukraine temporarily bans activities of 11 pro-Russian parties.

The National Security and Defense Council suspended activities of 11 pro-Russian political parties, including Opposition Platform – For Life, until martial law is lifted.

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 6:57 AM

[split aurora]

good shout

[limber wagon]

Ein, you know anything about those paties?

[split aurora]

I searched up the 11, couldn't find a huge amount on them, but nothing really too egregious except for many a couple

Ukraines already exploited its martial law to crack down on rights (see the labour laws earlier today)

[scarlet crown]

I know only of the opposition party - for life. That one was formed by Putin's family friend

[split aurora]

Worried this is a continuation of this

[limber wagon]

This is the same 11 parties. But both spin it rather differently.

[clear creek]

So the pro russian side of the ukranian parliament is suspended

[limber wagon]

also your source didnt mention it was until Martial law was lifted. Which is kinda a relevant point

[split aurora]

This one nor the original doesn't mention it

soooo fuck knows which is right

lemme try find the root source

well i can't load the ukraine govt website

lmao

good start

[scarlet crown]

afaik, most government sites are either shut down due to cyber attacks or to prevent them

[split aurora]

https://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-suspends-opposition-parties-ukraine-154011590.html - yahoo news

The largest party to be targeted is the Opposition Platform for Life, which holds 44 out of 450 seats in the Ukrainian parliament and has the second-largest bloc in the Verkhovna Rada, Ukraine’s Parliament, Aljazeera noted. Most members are from the Russian-speaking eastern region Ukraine, according to Radio Free Europe. Its leader is Viktor Medvedchuk, who reportedly has a friendly relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin. About 19 percent of Ukrainians support the OPFL

God damn, thats a big party

[scarlet crown]

Yeah, and it ain't a good one

[split aurora]

Ukraine’s government imposed martial law after the Russian invasion, and the party limitations will continue for the duration. The Justice Ministry of Ukraine will enforce the decision, Zelensky said.

just the the duration of ML

[split aurora]

Not being a good party isn't grounds for banning

Banning a political party must require a massive amount of abuse of power from them

[scarlet crown]

but they're literally a direct link to Putin

[split aurora]

the party publicly denounced the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine on 8 March 2022

[limber wagon]

Don't think its quite as simple during wartime

[split aurora]

Gonna be honest, can't see quite why they were banned

Like

this rings to me like an abuse of power

:/

[limber wagon]

No clue either. I dont know anything about Ukrainian politics.

[split aurora]

If theres something I've missed I'm happy to be corrected

[scarlet crown]

That Kyva guy used to say that Zelensky fled to Poland

[split aurora]

Misinformation isn't reason for banning

also he was banned from the party

[scarlet crown]

I'm talking just about Kyva

[split aurora]

he said a dumb thing, and faced consequences

[scarlet crown]

not the first time he does it

I didn't know much about politics before all of this happened, but I can say that "opposition platform - for life" is known for very close ties to Kremlin

[split aurora]

Yknow situations like these are a good example we live in a 3 dimensional world

and the importance of nuance

and not just "one side good one side bad" - something that's been creeping in more and more

[scarlet crown]

i dont understand what that means

[limber wagon]

I dont think it means anything

[split aurora]

3 dimensional as in

its a saying

[scarlet crown]

All I can say is they're not a party we need at all, right now it'd be in our best interest to break all Kremlin links in our own government

[split aurora]

No

No its not

you can't justify ditching democracy

because

"you don't need them"

thats how fascism comes

[limber wagon]

Again, I'm not sure if things are quite as black and white during wartime.

Yeah, its concerning, but its a cost benefit analysis kinda thing

[split aurora]

Okay but

if you normalise

banning political parties you dislike

during wartime

[limber wagon]

no?

[split aurora]

what to say that will ever return

After the war ends

[limber wagon]

The martial law clause

[split aurora]

Remember the temporary 9/11 laws

[limber wagon]

and no one said its a guarantee

[split aurora]

in the uk and usa

[limber wagon]

e

[split aurora]

the temporary crackdowns on human righrs

which have never left us

a crisis was used as justification to crush rights

and those rights never returned

I'm very worried about the path ukraine is on

I don't want to see a democracy leave the war a defacto dictatorship

anyway my dinners ready

[limber wagon]

I don't think you're reading what I'm saying and you're just spamming messages line by line carelessly. It is a cost benefit thing. A slip towards potential fascism vs having less opposition during wartime which could result in more deaths or even loosing.

[split aurora]

Yes but can you see how this argument applies to non-wartime too

"Having opposition to our economic budget plan to stop poverty could increase deaths and poverty"

"The added deaths are worse then banning those who oppose us"

[limber wagon]

Wartime requires the people in charge to make big decisions which may not be fully democratic. it sucks, it shouldn't be the case, but it is. its necessary during war time because its a very exceptional time. Doesn't mean that there wont be consequences for a leader having such power and it doesn't mean that all those laws will magically disappear once everything is over. But that is the cost.

[split aurora]

okay but this won't benefit the war

banning a party who disagrees with the Russians and denounces the invasion

how will that help the war

[limber wagon]

Stop with the false equivalencies please. I'm talking about exceptional times. Not budget issues

[split aurora]

Taya This is what always happens

[scarlet crown]

But they're literally pro-russian and decided to slip in better shoes now that everything is unfolding

[split aurora]

Every. Single. Time

Every single time a crisis law has been made

[limber wagon]

I am not going to assume either of us know anything about Ukrainian political parties

[split aurora]

its always been exploited in peacetime

[limber wagon]

I literally say that in the thing I wrote

I dont think you're listening

[split aurora]

imma leave this here then

don't think this is particularly productive

[scarlet crown]

yet another pointless discussion

anyways https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1669

[limber wagon]

Aaaaanyway, new Anti tank cat shipment just came in

[scarlet crown]

new meowzer just dropped

[tired scaffold]

purrzooka

[scarlet crown]

japan's latest war invention

[scarlet crown]

how they greet occupants in Mykolaiv

[copper monolith]

lmao nice

[copper monolith]

ello blazas, no fuckers here, and im sort of a refugee from putin's russian, currently in Tbilisi, Georgiahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRoAXbOQhDI

it's quite wholesome to see the amount of Ukrainian flags in the streets he walks through

[dull crane]

I was just about to comment about that

Glad the man got out safely

[stark inlet]

Theres a charity concert happening rn, hosted by the largest nonstate tv in poland

because state tv does jack shit, about as much as the govt

With several ukrainian singers/bands performing live on stage

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1685

[copper monolith]

nice

smh latvia y u no

[dull crane]

Latvia is too focused on their potatoes

[leaden grove]

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1505639872769449985?s=21

max seddon (@maxseddon)

Russia has given Ukraine until 5am to surrender Mariupol, after which it says it'll let the 130,000 remaining civilians leave.

The language it uses for Kyiv's forces – "nationalists," "foreign mercenaries," "bandits" – leaves little doubt about what Russia has in store for them.

Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 8:18 PM

[leaden grove]

Latvia too

[scarlet crown]

fucking madmen

[leaden grove]

It’s such a weird statement too

It would make more sense to let the civilians leave and then threaten to take the city

[copper monolith]

suck a large, fat greasy cock, vladdy

[hushed magnet]

they dont care about the civilians

[leaden grove]

Yeah

Like for them not harming the civilian population is a nice bonus but far from a necessity

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1505640445447184386?s=21

max seddon (@maxseddon)

Even by the devastating standards of Russia's war in Ukraine, what's going on in Mariupol right now is pure horror.

@GuyChazan spoke to survivors – and his story is free to read https://t.co/NNsbJhNE7w

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 8:20 PM

[copper monolith]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/marina-ovsyannikova-russian-journalist-refuses-france-asylum

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505652759017709582?s=20&t=9ybyaSiE55R_MuSkjIDr-A

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Ukraine's military: 170 Russian troops killed in Donbas on March 20.

Ukrainian troops have destroyed 12 Russian tanks, nine infantry fighting vehicles, three vehicles, a Su-34 jet, and a helicopter on the front lines in Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts alone on Sunday.

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 9:09 PM

[paper cedar]

That's a lot of damage

[scarlet crown]

in just one Sunday

We struck off one uav today in Odesa so cheers to that ig

[copper monolith]

[azure plover]

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1505689969188294657?s=20&t=S5louQK0Ae9zmzs8l9NQGw

Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM)

Ukraine: No surrender.

"There can be no talk of any surrenders, laying down of arms. We have already informed the Russian side about this," says Dep PM Iryna Vereshchuk. "Instead of wasting time on 8 pages of letters, just open a [humanitarian] corridor." https://t.co/Ps9qj4g8bV

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 11:37 PM

original tweet https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1505654066575204358?s=20&t=S5louQK0Ae9zmzs8l9NQGw

Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM)

A chilling new threat. Russia's Defense Ministry says Ukraine has until 5am on March 21 to surrender the besieged city of Mariupol, adding it'll let residents and troops who lay down arms leave. Anyone left behind "with the bandits" will "face a military tribunal." via RIA

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 9:14 PM

[split aurora]

lmfao

[hollow hollow]

didn’t war thunder players leak classified design info for some tank just to prove a point or something lmao

[split aurora]

yes

and its happened

repeatedly

members of irl armed forces leaking details to war thunder forums

[copper monolith]

they just want realistic tank fights

[limber jolt]

Mariupol is starting to look like Stalingrad or something

[split aurora]

eh, closer to chechnya

[limber jolt]

yeah I'm not as familiar with what happened in Grozny but I know it was pretty bad

[split aurora]

it's not really that close to stalingrad

[limber jolt]

also that name is pretty close to "fearsome" in Russian iirc

well I wasn't being exactly literal, point is it's getting very bad there

[limber jolt]

I point this out because it's interesting, and that was actually the title of Ivan the Terrible in Russian, Ivan Grozny, Ivan the Fearsome

I do speak Russian and my family is originally from Russia but we're all very against Putin and have been from the start

I have family in both countries...

and about the earlier conversation of wartime powers and measures often being too much, to be fair most democratic countries are guilty of doing this

in the American Civil War Lincoln suspended Habeus Corpus iirc, as an example

my point is even in a war that seems to have a clear cut good and bad, the side seen as "good" can still do bad things

[hollow hollow]

this happened a lot in ww2, obv the allies were the good guys but even they did some pretty bad things during the war. the most famous example would be the soviet soldier wearing stolen watches in the photo of the soviet flag over berlin

and depending on who you ask, the highway of death in the gulf war may have been a war crime (imo it isn’t because an armed retreat is still a valid target, but maybe that’s just my biased/uninformed burger man pov)

[limber jolt]

tbh I think the USSR as a whole is an example of my point

because no matter what you say, Stalin was still Stalin and killed millions

I remember talking to my mom about the situation in Russia rn, she thinks the Russian government is pretty much turning into a fascist government now

going full militaristic and nationalist

and totalitarian

[buoyant sundial]

…Yea they are?

[limber jolt]

I mean I say this from someone who regularly talks to friends and family still living in the country

[buoyant sundial]

They arrest literally anyone with an opinion it seems

Including people who vocally support the war

[limber jolt]

apparently there the narrative around ww2 that the government pushes has shifted, it used to be something along the lines of "we defeated the fascists, and should never allow something like that war to happen again", and now it's closer to "we defeated the fascists, and we can do it again"

and then proceeding to accuse the Ukrainian government of being nazis which is ridiculous considering Zelensky is Jewish

[limber jolt]

the police don't even listen tbh

just arrest anyone who is protesting

that's probably their orders

[buoyant sundial]

…Yes exactly

[split aurora]

this

the world is a lot more nuanced then a "good" side and a "bad" side

As well as calling out russias abuses, we must do the same for ukraine, and any other party involved

[limber jolt]

at the same time this is the first war in a long time where you can easily say that one side is good and one side is bad in terms of their causes

[split aurora]

eh

not really

wars are surprisingly common - people don't realise this

all these nations have presently ongoing armed conflicts

[limber jolt]

my point is that most of the recent ones have been over seemingly petty issues and with a pretty big moral gray area over who's right and who's wrong

[split aurora]

i disagree

[limber jolt]

many are still very very sensitive issues today

[split aurora]

id say there are other present wars that are just as morally clear cut

eg. yemen

[limber jolt]

and everyone can agree that ISIS is bad

[split aurora]

but people in yemen have black skin, so the media cares not for their suffering

[limber jolt]

yeah media coverage has been pretty stupid

I remember some guy saying that the significance of this was that it was in a "civilized" country, like wtf

[split aurora]

yep

Hell I saw one talking about it being significant as it was "people with blonde hair and blue eyes"

casually repeating nazi rhetoric unchallenged on national western tv

[limber jolt]

there is a significance to it happening in Europe but that's the fact that Europe hasn't had a war on this scale in many decades, the only thing recently that even compares is Yugoslavia

[limber jolt]

I remember seeing that too

[split aurora]

Europe, outside of ex-ussr, has had 2 decades of quiet

Northern Ireland and yugoslavia both quieted down about the turn of the 21st century

[fierce arch]

what do the colors mean

[fierce arch]

no they didnt where'd you get that from

kosovo war??

[limber jolt]

considering Europe has had wars lasting longer than that before and had many periods of time where they couldn't go 10 years without a war, that's still not something to be scoffed at I think

[fierce arch]

bosnia??

[limber jolt]

and the Balkans are... a dumpster fire

[split aurora]

I fought the fighting in the balkans was in the 90s?

[limber jolt]

wasn't Bosnia mostly in the 90s, lasted into very early 2000s at the latest?

[split aurora]

in the yugoslav breakup

[limber jolt]

but still nothing approaching the scale of Ukraine

[tired scaffold]

The Yugoslav Wars ended in 2001, the last one to count as part of it was Macedonia's breaking free

[split aurora]

I might be mistaken

[fierce arch]

we don't talk about the balkans though

[split aurora]

ah 2 secs ill grab the scale, its the amount of deaths per year

[limber jolt]

noticed North Korea is on there

[split aurora]

there are occasional skirmishes with the south

[limber jolt]

apparently nobody dies from them in the South then

[split aurora]

Yellow is only <10

Wikipedia claims 14 total fatalities in 2021

pretty sure that was a north Korean naval vessel

iirc

[limber jolt]

the humanitarian crisis is insane too, but what's stupid is how media has been framing the crisis of refugees from Syria a few years ago as one of too many people going into Europe, America, etc. where in Ukraine it's a crisis because of the suffering of the people

[split aurora]

Poland has no room for Syrians... yet find room for millions from ukraine

[limber jolt]

yeah

[split aurora]

and no, before people say, this isn't me insulting them for a past mistake

the refugees from countless other wars are still ongoing

if the decision to allow ukranians was truely a change of heart

then the same producedure should apply for refugees from all warzones

else it is very clearly not a change of heart

[limber jolt]

the real significance to me is the family connections I have to both countries and also the fear that this could easily escalate

people have been advocating for things that would literally start a world war here

[split aurora]

Yep

It concerns me greatly the amount of armchair generals

banging the drums of war

[limber jolt]

people seem to have forgotten what the consequences of a war between NATO and Russia are

the end of civilization as we know it

[split aurora]

even ignoring that

a conventional war between the two powers

would be horrific

and see such an enormous unnecessary shedding of blood

every effort must be undertaken to minimise the loss of life in every nation in this war

and that includes avoiding escalations

[fierce arch]

ukraine is a european country with a generally more educated population + they have a similar culture to poland

its certainly not justified but this is how it works

[limber wagon]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/russia-sets-5am-deadline-for-ukrainian-forces-surrender-in-mariupol
They're at this point just asking Mariupol to surrender

100% chances they're gonna either up their shelling of civilian places or claim that they can't be held accountable for civilian deaths anymore "because they gave them a chance"

Not like they werent doing that already, but no doubt they gonna up that

I hope the people of Mariupol are holding up though. I can't imagine what they must be going through

[leaden grove]

What really sets the Balkan wars apart is the Bosnian genocide

[leaden grove]

Then we at least need to provide Ukraine with the weapons they ask for

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1693

[leaden grove]

https://twitter.com/hromadske/status/1505679967107092482

Hromadske Int. (@Hromadske)

Mariupol today. We publish the full text by Nadia Sukhorukova.

I go outside in between the bombings. I need to walk the dog. She's whining, shivering, and hiding behind my legs. I want to sleep all the time. My yard, surrounded by high-rise buildings, is silent and dead. 1/13

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 10:57 PM

[limber wagon]

Honestly getting kinda tired of this kinda attitude. "We don't want things to get bad for us, so we'll just let Ukraine suffer"

Like yeah, I don't want there to be a large scale war either, no one does, but I think refusing to help Ukraine more directly is kinda cowardly and unjust.

There has got to be at least something more we can do

[limber wagon]

and this is just fear mongering. It assumes the escalation will be immediately turned to the max. There are so many steps in between the current situation and full on nuclear war, to suggest otherwise is just bonkers

[scarlet crown]

This is like Russia at it's most vulnerable, I don't see any other threat but the nuclear one

If people are afraid of escalations, then it's only reasonable to further help us, humanitarian and weapon wise

[limber wagon]

idk, I feel like there are still a lot of options left

For example, what if you only send troops to part of the country, like some sort of peacekeeping operation

Just a thing you could do that still wont immediately involve fighting back

and I doubt thats the only thing

[scarlet crown]

I think they'll still see it as NATO intervention

But that's pretty much the thing: Russia will see anything as escalation

[limber wagon]

Yes

but escalation doesn't mean immediately going to the nuclear option

[scarlet crown]

Exactly

I'm just tired of this "we want less bloodshed on both sides; we don't want escalations" kind of mindset

I thought it was already clear that while Russia is only losing their military, here we lose not only that but also civilians

Women, children

[limber wagon]

Its just cowardly at this point. Yeah, we're sending weapons, which is great, but there is so much more we could do.

[scarlet crown]

Not to devalue one from another of course, but does seem pretty damn unfair

The more countries will show their fear, the more Putin's Russia will dictate it's compromises

[limber wagon]

Yeah

And at this point its pretty clear that there wont be meaningful peace talks either until Russia is certain it can get what it wants

And most of the sanctions, while definitely crippling take most of their effect in the medium term, not the now.

Plus thats not gonna get Russia to stop their invasion. It just makes future ones a lot less likely if they're still around for long enough

[scarlet crown]

already waiting for someone here to go "what??!? are you insane??!? b-b-but nukes!!"

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2350

[limber wagon]

Yikes

Hope you stay safe there Ein

[split aurora]

yeah..., I'm aware

its shit but thats how this world be

[split aurora]

I've always said we should

absolutely we should be doing that

As much help as is possible, within the bounds of not causing an escalation -> Which allows the current train of weapons and supplies to be maintained and expanded

[scarlet crown]

someone's a lil mad

it says "never anger a russian warship"

while that warship in question is firing at malls and houses

petty

still liberators btw

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1699

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1700

Honestly this is cool and all but can someone explain what's so helpful about this

[split aurora]

honestly you can keep him there

we don't want him back

[scarlet crown]

watch us take the guy into territorial defence lmao

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2357

uh oh

where's the cardboard

comin through, coMIN THROUGHHH

[stark inlet]

reminds me of canada

where milk is sold in bags

[scarlet crown]

i just imagine myself the farmers being like "aight we'll do a quick rebuild here and there so this baby will be ready to tend the fields in no time"

[scarlet crown]

yeah those are tetrapacks

we have those here too

[stark inlet]

im talking about this

[scarlet crown]

?

[scarlet crown]

oh these are... literal bags

[stark inlet]

https://twitter.com/den_kazansky/status/1505802021378707458

Денис Казанський (@den_kazansky)

В благодарность за то, что сеть «Леруа Марлен» не уходит с российского рынка, россияне ночью разбомбили магазин «Леруа Марлен» в Киеве.

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 7:02 AM

"In gratitude for Leroy Merlin not leaving Russian market, last night Russians bombarded Leroy Merlin store in Kyiv."

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1702 Verkhovna rada once again asking countries to close business partnerships with Russia

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505848551544221696?s=20&t=QHarG04aTdtsMmZPLzn8SA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️WSJ: Russia shifts to 'Plan B' after blitzkrieg victory failure.

Unnamed senior U.S. officials cited by the Wall Street Journal said that the Kremlin’s new strategy is to secure key territorial objectives in Ukraine’s east and south and push Ukraine to accept neutrality.

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 10:07 AM

[split aurora]

yeah sounds about right

the SE is where most of their success is

and where ukraines most likely to crack

[copper monolith]

👀

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505862543021121541?t=ysh231wT6diVahabQxwCAQ&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Ukrainians raise $5.6 million for the military through Diia app.

According to the government app’s press service, more than 178,000 Ukrainians donated for the cause. All funds are transferred to the Come Back Alive charity.

Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 11:03 AM

[viral junco]

Copium warship

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1505861543413657600
https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1505861545141710850

Owen Jones 🌹 (@OwenJones84)

"A bloodied man empties his wallet to his creditor while being mercilessly attacked by an unprovoked assailant. This is the plight of Ukraine, which recently made a scheduled interest payment to private lenders as tanks rolled over its land and missiles struck its cities."

Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 10:59 AM

Owen Jones 🌹 (@OwenJones84)

Article here 👇

https://t.co/g7c2FEPIxO

Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 10:59 AM

Even before Vladimir Putin started bombing apartment blocks and maternity hospitals, Ukraine was Europe’s poorest country as measured by GDP per capita – significantly poorer than Albania. Yet this war-ravaged country is saddled with unsustainable debt – and as the piles of rubble grow, so do the repayments. That’s debt for Ukraine, but profits for western hedge funds. War, for some, is the ultimate money-spinner.

Cancel Ukraines foreign debt.

But if the IMF and World Bank cancel Ukraine’s debt, critics may ask, doesn’t that mean less money in the pot to lend to other poorer countries? But there’s a straightforward solution: richer countries, like our own, should contribute more to make up the shortfall. There is a precedent of sorts – the G20’s debt service suspension initiative suspended or cancelled nearly $11bn of poorer countries’ external debt because of Covid-19. If a pandemic is reason enough to write off debt, surely a war of aggression is too.```

[copper monolith]

Yo cancel that shit

[split aurora]

Ukraines external debt is in the region of $60bn

Split that across 30 nato members

that'll do more good then any javelin or rifle

[stark inlet]

https://twitter.com/pubitylatest/status/1505844746702684161

Pubity Latest (@pubitylatest)

BREAKING: China to provide another $1.57 million in humanitarian aid to Ukraine.

via @CNN

Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 9:52 AM

[copper monolith]

the bare minimum

[scarlet crown]

literally

they sent those in just for a checkmark

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1705

skies over Mariupol..

[copper monolith]

👀

[copper monolith]

jesus christ

@hollow hollowmm it's best to not post videos and pics showing off the dead, even if the faces are covered

[hollow hollow]

ight

[lilac sparrow]

What is that pillar? Factory?

[split aurora]

looks like a smoke stack

could also be some kind of broadcasting tower

unclear

lemme see if i can find on google maps

aye

its a factory smokestack

[copper monolith]

so only 1 is left standing

man...

[split aurora]

idk if thats the exact location

just looked for industrial areas in mariupol

to get an idea what the stacks looked like

and yeah seems to match

[copper monolith]

these bitches have indeed been bombing that area, trying to reduce anything that creates into dust

nothing as treacherous as protesting against slaughtering of innocent people

on that note, last night I had the displeasure of overhearing Kyselyov speaking on his weekly bullshit news, and I heard the part where he was talking about how "the west thought they could destroy the russian economy in one week with these sanctions, but we're tougher than that and are already transitioning to other areas"

man literally wants the russian people to believe sanctions are a short term thing

[limber wagon]

I mean of course. Thats the part that makes sense. The longer you can keep things under control the more you can grab for yourself or limit the overall damage. They're doing everything in their power to keep the economy afloat rn

Its like controlled descent vs freefall. Both are bad, but one is clearly worse

And telling everyone that everything is going to be alright is part of that

Even when it isn't. Its to prevent people from withdrawing all their money and causing further issues

[copper monolith]

~8 dead https://twitter.com/lesiavasylenko/status/1505870329524146179?s=20&t=Mm_zz2KNlJx72umH17DWWg

Lesia Vasylenko (@lesiavasylenko)

#Kyiv #Podil the devastation of what was a shopping center . Just 15 minutes from center, the explosion lit up the sky last night. Still asking for that #NoFlyZoneOverUkraine video by a colleague MP

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 11:33 AM

https://youtu.be/5xOhMXSRwkE

[limber wagon]

Yikes

[fierce arch]

good fucking luck trying to forgive the debt of ukraine

countries are stingy as shit when it comes to forgiving others debt

and its inevitable that other war-torn countries will call out the injustice and demand that their debt is forgiven too

[copper monolith]

I see no problem in that

[fierce arch]

3rd world countries owe $860 billion in debt so like

[copper monolith]

ain't no way they're gonna pay that shit when they can barely feed their own

the last thing a country annihilated by war thinks about is paying debts to some rich fat guys

[fierce arch]

you can mess with the UN

you can mess with NATO

but you can't mess with the debt collectors

[split aurora]

yeah, I'm aware it very unlikely to happen

[copper monolith]

debt collectors can suck on deez nuts

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505881748999180294?s=20&t=y7O64hY1Xz0QHaFTbiki4Q

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Greek diplomat after returning from Mariupol: 'What I saw, I hope no one will ever see.'

Manolis Androulakis left the besieged city on March 15. He said it was joining the ranks of places known for having been destroyed in wars such as “Guernica, Coventry, Aleppo, Grozny."

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 12:19 PM

[split aurora]

https://pixelforest.itch.io/farmers-stealing-tanks

@scarlet crown

[scarlet crown]

:D

[split aurora]

this is genuinely fun

[viral junco]

https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1505896405881266176?t=iXUXI6qqjGWsUHw6ruVZDA&s=19

Paul Cunningham (@RTENewsPaulC)

New - Foreign Minister @simoncoveney says he expects Ireland will be contributing €22m to helping Ukrainian forces defend themselves. This is part of a move to increase the fund from €.5bn to €1bn @rtenews

Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 1:17 PM

Mfw Ireland gives more than china

[buoyant sundial]

Tf is rtenews

[copper monolith]

an irish news channel

[split aurora]

Irish news

Radio Tell a fish err enn

[copper monolith]

RT news

[viral junco]

Translates to radio television Ireland

[stark inlet]

Rumb-

[limber wagon]

I guess this just went through

[copper monolith]

only social medias left there are the ones that are controlled by the state

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/AmirAminiMD/status/1505556751646699521

Amir (@AmirAminiMD)

Sorry Germans, Marx is a Russian now

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 2:47 PM

[copper monolith]

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2394 they didn't just use a damn office meme

[zinc talon]

lmao

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1718

[copper monolith]

killed by other nazis, damn

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505901932497547279?s=20&t=Dkq9TwW4LrHk91f5UKXTPQ

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Ukraine accuses Russia of kidnapping children from occupied Donbas.

According to the Foreign Ministry, 2,389 children from Russian-controlled Donbas were “illegally deported” to Russia.

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https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505901715492593669?s=20&t=Dkq9TwW4LrHk91f5UKXTPQ

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

The tragedy Ukrainians are living through now and the future they are nonetheless looking forward to in the video voiced and published by President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Video: Presidential press service

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 1:38 PM

[scarlet crown]

they should've put subtitles really, but I think everyone gets the message

[icy ridge]

Let's Reduce our dependence on one country and increase it on another

[limber wagon]

This dependency on oil isn't something you can just change overnight

[scarlet crown]

yeah, at the very least they're not sponsoring the aggressor

[zinc talon]

Qatar may be better than russia, but still not a country one want's to depend on

[stark inlet]

No country is self sufficient

Especially when it comes to non renewable energy

[split aurora]

Qatar is... marginally better then russia

least it not Saudi Arabia

[copper monolith]

quatar using slave labour to build their gaudy stadiums for the hottest football championship in history

[viral junco]

There's been multiple deaths at the site too

[split aurora]

Yeah Qatar as a nation is built on the back of an enormous slave Labour force

[molten tartan]

Ein

I heard Odesa had been shelled

Are you okay? @scarlet crown

[scarlet crown]

I am yea

so far they're not hitting anywhere close to my square

They hit coastal buildings mainly, there aren't reports of them hitting buildings right in the middle of living quarters

[molten tartan]

Jesus

They aren't gonna stop until Ukraine is left in rubble

[scarlet crown]

sadly

But the more they do it, the more they'll have to repay reparations

Rn their main goal switched to south-east, most of their forces are there

They fucked up blietzkrieg on Kyiv so now they're going to try rip out regions again and stall the war

[viral junco]

Their plan b seems to be take as much land south to move the army away potentially

[lilac sparrow]

I don’t think they actually have a plan b, destroying cities can’t be considered a viable plan for an economically declining nation, it’s like their lower commanders are making easy to achieve goals like “prepare area XYZ for ground invasion” and proceeding to bomb it so that they can atleast say to their command team that they are atleast putting in the effort

Probably some colonel trying to chase a star

[split aurora]

I mean, I don't see why it can't be considered a valid plan

Will it win the war? dunno! but it certainly works for taking towns.... in long term

beseiging city by city is a decent way to try and make a landgrab

siege some towns, claim you've annexed an area (like, the donbass, land bridge to crimea) which you have military control over

declare the war over

pull back place troops on the border of where you claim

see if ukraine is willing to attack you

in other news

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1505926067395121152

OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical)

We’re seeing some additional evidence that the Ukrainians are conducting a counteroffensive in the south from Mykolaiv.

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 3:15 PM

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1505946616842313735

Rob Lee (@RALee85)

The Russian MoD posted a video showing that Ukraine was storing MLRS at the mall in Kyiv that was struck last night. Also notable that Russian Orlan-10 UAVs can operate over Kyiv.
https://t.co/c0hLS31sLy

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 4:37 PM

[tired scaffold]

posted a video showing
*posted a video claiming to show

[split aurora]

it's... pretty verifiable

cross comparing missile strikes

https://twitter.com/Mastersepar/status/1505939138654216195

Master (@Mastersepar)

20.03.2022
Киев, Украина.

И Ещё Кадры, подтверждающие наличие средств РСЗО и САУ на территории торгового центра.

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 4:07 PM

• additional footage of Ukrainian military vehicles here

seems to be mall being used as a resupply dump

[scarlet crown]

Afaik, they were indeed there, but some fucking dickhead decided to spoil positions in tiktok

[copper monolith]

man

[split aurora]

yep

This proves that attack was justified, not any others

[scarlet crown]

Yeah

just a very big fuck up on our side really

[copper monolith]

😔

[scarlet crown]

Any other shelling like in Mariupol or Chernihiv though cannot be justified

[split aurora]

Some of those can be, some of them wont be able to

When the war is ended, hopefully both sides will have all their actions investigated, and criminals rooted out

[scarlet crown]

hopefully

[wicked panther]

This is looking more and more like a modern warfare game what the fuck

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1722 this will probably need more verification

could be another fake

https://t.me/UA_struggle/490

[copper monolith]

hmm

[copper monolith]

fuck man

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2409 god fucking damn it

what did the kids do to them

fucking monsters

[copper monolith]

genuine genocide

[tired scaffold]

what did the kids do
not be Russian

[scarlet crown]

that's ok by their logic and that's the worst

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2410 another good boy :)

[zinc talon]

Don't want to be an on-ground journalist rn

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-edf7240a9d990e7e3e32f82ca351dede

[unreal path]

https://twitter.com/afp/status/1505910672303042561?s=21

AFP News Agency (@AFP)

#BREAKING Russian court bans Instagram, Facebook as 'extremist' organisations

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 2:14 PM

[scarlet crown]

we found the guy who recorded tech near the mall in Kyiv

[copper monolith]

smh

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2424 Glory to Lviv

I remember my trips to Lviv, glorious city

[limber wagon]

Bit of a slice of life story from a streamer and her journey of fleeing Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-QxDzGHPok

God, this must be surreal https://twitter.com/Xepla/status/1497933187326087171?s=20&t=ENOorzYOY8IvJsBy4FwDIw

Zepla 🌙🐇🌱🇺🇦 (@Xepla)

My hands shaking as i watch this trying to find anything recognizable in the background that could be my house . But Ukraine decimated this convoy. 🙌🇺🇦

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[scarlet crown]

literal ruins..

[silk iron]

hey - how's the war progressed the past 2-3 days?

or not progressed as the case may be

[scarlet crown]

Yeah that is the case

the invasion is kind of stalled

occupants don't seem to be proceeding any further and just keep shelling cities from afar

These past few days it was mainly political news about sanctions, parliament decisions

[silk iron]

Russian command doesn't dare risk direct urban warfare atm.

Mariupol seems pretty screwed, that's about as much as i've kept up with

[scarlet crown]

records of violence upon civilians

[silk iron]

welp

[scarlet crown]

humanitarian corridors began to work somehow, but sometimes they just decide to shell cars

their most favourite targets are vehicles with kids in them

most of the time they open fire knowingly on those

[silk iron]

it's likely caused by undisciplined, sadistic soldiers who want to take out their discontent on innocents

[scarlet crown]

you just summed the entire russian nation my guy

[silk iron]

from what I see the Russian command seems apathetic to the plight of Ukrainian civilians at best

[scarlet crown]

they don't care for civilians or for soldiers

it's just mad

[silk iron]

not exactly a strategically beneficial mindset for would-be occupiers when it comes to "liberating Ukraine"

[scarlet crown]

that's the thing though: none of this will benefit them

Ruined structures, killed civilians

this doesn't help them at all

[silk iron]

it benefits no one, and moves Russia further down the path of a Pariah state

but at this point Russia is committed

[scarlet crown]

apart from the psychological factor, but most people I know are not phased by this shit

All of this goes further to show that russian "liberation" is just another way of saying genocide. Just like Holodomor was "just a non-bountiful year"

[silk iron]

The Kremlin needs a peace treaty and the more pressure they put on Zelensky and the world in general, by threatening to commit further atrocities and force more Ukrainians to emigrate to Europe to escape the war, the more likely the Ukrainians will be pressured to the negotiation table with some form of concessions... - at least enough to make the special military operation look like a victory.

[scarlet crown]

They'll be having none of that

[split aurora]

I wouldn't be surprised if russia tries to end the war without a peace treaty

[scarlet crown]

an article from pro-kremlin source "Komsomolska Pravda" that, for the first time, states somewhat truthful numbers about russian casualties, with 9861 soldiers dead and 16153 wounded. Best part is - not even a hour after the article got deleted

looks like someone is about to get arrested

[split aurora]

Take mariupol
Continue to siege towns in the south and east
Declare that the bridge to crimea/donbass are being occupied and the military operation is over
Pull troops back to the border of what they claim and establish defensive positions
See if ukraine attacks the defensive positions

it'd be a propaganda win for russia whether or not ukraine attacked the positions

I can see that happening

[scarlet crown]

honestly a possible outcome

sounds a lot like what happened with DPR and LPR

[split aurora]

mhmm

[silk iron]

well it's strategically plausible

what would that be the Kherson oblast, the Zaporizhia Oblast occupied by the Russian forces - as well as most of Luhansk and Donetsk by the separatists?

[scarlet crown]

most likely

they've lost their interest for the capital (not all of it), they're just going to aim for the south-east

[split aurora]

A land bridge to crimea is one of russias main desires

hence why mariupol is so strongly attacked

plus mariupol would be a propaganda win moreso then other towns

due to azov

[silk iron]

it's also much easier logistically with naval support

[scarlet crown]

https://web.archive.org/web/20220321131726/https://www.kp.ru/online/news/4672522/ here's the wayback machine link to it

[scarlet crown]

I like how barely anyone brings any evidence of azov being a full on nazi group besides their emblem while Russia is committing crimes on level of nazi Germany

[split aurora]

i-

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1727 new speech just dropped

[scarlet crown]

if you do have any, I'd like to see a few in dms

[split aurora]

no it can go in here

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/ukrainian-unit-accused-of-neo-nazi-links-wants-canadas-help
Andrey Dyachenko, a spokesman for the battalion, told USA Today in March that only 10 to 20 percent of the unit are Nazis. - Admitting a significant part of it is formed by Nazi's
The regiment originated as a national socialist group called “Patriot of Ukraine.” Its websites praised white supremacy, racial purity, and the need for authoritarian power.
Some of the regiment’s fighters have been photographed wearing Nazi symbols. The group’s own flag is an inverted Wolfangel symbol, which was used by the Waffin SS.
Another OHCHR report documented an instance of rape and torture, writing: "A man with a mental disability was subject to cruel treatment, rape and other forms of sexual violence by 8 to 10 members of the 'Azov' and 'Donbas' (another Ukrainian battalion) battalions in August–September 2014. The victim's health subsequently deteriorated and he was hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital."[95] A report from January 2015 stated that a Donetsk Republic supporter was detained and tortured with electricity and waterboarding, which resulted in his confessing to spying for pro-Russian militants.[95]
Reports published by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) have connected the Azov Battalion to war crimes such as mass looting, unlawful detention, and torture.
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_13th_HRMMU_Report_3March2016.pdf - Report

Nazism, war crimes and torture

Hell in this war there was video of Azov members smearing lard on bullets before fighting the chechens

Notable due to consumption of pig fat being Haram in the Islamic religion

[scarlet crown]

they weren't just chechens, they're in the damn kadyrov legion, they've already betrayed both their religion and people

[split aurora]

Oh hey and also

Azov's founding member Andriy Biletsky, leader of the neo-Nazi Social-National Assembly (SNA), stated early in the Russo-Ukrainian War that "the historic mission of our nation" was to lead the "white races of the world in a final crusade for their survival [...] a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen"

Untermenschen

fucking Untermenschen

[scarlet crown]

from which link is that quote from

[split aurora]

Theres not a piece of ideology on God's green earth more nazi

https://web.archive.org/web/20191219014054/https://books.google.com/books?id=8LkxBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA158

a December 2014 book on the war in the donbass - Written by a professor of European politics at a british university

[scarlet crown]

Well damn I knew none of this

Gonna give it all a read

[split aurora]

Azov are, to put it bluntly, fucking evil

and as bad as the worst of the russians

[silk iron]

The Azov Battalion is a mix of far-right Ukrainian nationalists, neo-nazis, and others with cold-blooded murderous intent.

[split aurora]

Don't get me wrong, this in no way supports what Russia is claiming justification for war

But azov are fucking evil and nazi's

[viral junco]

wouldnt that affect the firing of the bullets?

[split aurora]

Honestly, don't know

I assume it wouldn't too much

ussuming it was a thin coat

and you didnt fire enough rounds to jam the barrel/mag

My muslim friend say they didn't believe it actually meant anything religiously

but its the principle behind it thats very fucked

[viral junco]

He (Allah -God- ) has only forbidden to you dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], there is no sin upon him. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. -- Quran, Al-Baqarah 2:173

[split aurora]

ye

[viral junco]

so being shot by it isnt haram

[split aurora]

its only as bad as being shot by a regular bullet

[scarlet crown]

where can i read that book at

[scarlet crown]

is the middle part mostly taken from the book?

Can't seem to find traces neither on UN document or the canada news

[split aurora]

about them using the wolfgang symbol...?

if so thats, incredibly well known

[scarlet crown]

No im talking about the mentally ill soldier

"The regiment originated as a national socialist group called “Patriot of Ukraine.” Its websites praised white supremacy, racial purity, and the need for authoritarian power." this quote

"Reports published by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) have connected the Azov Battalion to war crimes such as mass looting, unlawful detention, and torture." this one too

is it from the book

[split aurora]

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_14th_HRMMU_Report.pdf

sorry there was two un reports

[scarlet crown]

there we go

[split aurora]

both named near identical and 53 pages so i thought them the same without opening them up

but yeah this is all relatively commonly known stuff in the west

though many people increasingly dont care

[scarlet crown]

although I can't find these quotes in this document either

either the word search does not respond well, or those are mainly taken from the book

so my question once more is

[scarlet crown]

are these from the book ^

[split aurora]

no

[scarlet crown]

can you link the exact document they're from, I can't find it

[split aurora]

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_13th_HRMMU_Report_3March2016.pdf - Page *11 Section 25 - Looting

[scarlet crown]

are you sure this is the right document

[split aurora]

Trying to find one wrt torture naming azov in specific, not just ukranian military

wait

page 11 not 5

[tender canyon]

i can't find either of those quotes in the documents

[split aurora]

This one was from the book

Also it wasn't a direct quote

[split aurora]

this one

[scarlet crown]

So you just decided to shape it how you saw it?

[split aurora]

A UN report doesnt say "a UN report has connected..."

[tender canyon]

i have a copy of the ebook and it apparently doesnt contain them either

[split aurora]

what

[scarlet crown]

you did say it's not a direct quote

[split aurora]

that was the wikipedia article for azov

which quotes

reports published by....

with the UN report as an embedded source

you are trying to search the embedded source for a descriptive quote of the source

[silk iron]

paraphrasing is the way of restating a phrase

sorry my grammar makes no sense there

[split aurora]

There is a wikipedia article on this
The article states in quote Reports published by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) have connected the Azov Battalion to war crimes such as mass looting, unlawful detention, and torture.
The embedded source to that is the OHCHR report that reported the crimes
I sent the embedded source

[scarlet crown]

but you didn't send the wikipedia article first, i wouldn't have known

[split aurora]

fair enough

Eitherway, I pasted in the 3 key extracts

about Azov's behaviour

from said report

[scarlet crown]

not trying to come for your throat, but as someone who doesn't know much about azov apart from them protecting Mariupol currently, this whole presentation looks very opinionated without using direct quotes

[split aurora]

I mean I am very opinionated about then

because they're fucking nazis

[silk iron]

was the Azov battalion paramilitary group integrated into the Ukraine National Guard before or after the OHCHR report from 2014-2015?

[split aurora]

12th Nov 2014 they were integrated

They were formed May 2014

The report discussed their behaviour both before and after integration

[silk iron]

right so their looting and other violations would be under the purview of the Ukrainian national guard

hmm

[split aurora]

I mean, the report says a lot more bad stuff about the Ukraine guard then it does Azov

Azov gets off lightly in this report

lmao

[split aurora]

and yes it also calls out the DNR/other one for their crimes

[silk iron]

of course violent and morally dubious men of all anti-Russian ideologies become useful and easily condoned in times of conflict and war.

[split aurora]

A lot of them came from ultranationalist football gangs

at first

[silk iron]

pretty sure they attracted foreigners as well with neo-nazi sympathies

[split aurora]

raised in violence, lack of a moral centre, hatred of other nationalities... ideal fighters, for those who dont care about the civilian toll

[silk iron]

either way hardly a valid pretext for Putin's "denazification" of the entirety of Ukraine though - over what is it less than a 1% of the population's ideology.

[split aurora]

Yeah, his pretext is 100% bullshit

but azov are real, dangerous, and must be tackled

There is no excuse for ukraine allowing their continued existance for the last 8 years

none at all.

[silk iron]

i think most of them will be dealt with by the Russian forces.

[split aurora]

Hopefully

[silk iron]

and realistically Ukraine needed all the experienced soldiers they could muster, as I mentioned violent men with become very useful in times of war

probably would have been smarter to leave them as paramilitaries

[hushed magnet]

yuppp, its crazy how many people miss that you can have nuance

[silk iron]

perhaps the Ukraine national guard believed they could temper the Azov Battalions' violent lawless nature with discipline...?

who really knows

[scarlet crown]

i'm not that well with english, can someone explain what nuance is in this context

[silk iron]

nuance is the detail to a story

often the morale grey areas which are overlooked in heroes or villains which go against the main narratives leaning

[hushed magnet]

id say its just not seeing things in black and white

[silk iron]

nuance in the context of politics is generally inconvenient or complicated facts overlooked by both sides - due to it being hard to spin a narrative out of.

[scarlet crown]

that puts it perfectly, thanks

[split aurora]

https://slate.com/technology/2022/03/russia-wikipedia-download-kiwix.html

The 29-gigabyte file that contains a downloadable Russian-language Wikipedia was downloaded a whopping 105,889 times during the first half of March, which is a more than 4,000 percent increase compared with the first half of January. According to Stephane Coillet-Matillon, who leads Kiwix, the organization that facilitates these downloads, Russian downloads now constitute 42 percent of all traffic on Kiwix servers, up from just 2 percent in 2021. “We had something similar back in 2017 when Turkey blocked Wikipedia,” he said, “but this one is just another dimension.”

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1506006785596948484

Kevin Rothrock (@KevinRothrock)

Here’s a statement from KP: they say they were hacked.

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This makes most sense

[split aurora]

wrt this report from earlier

[scarlet crown]

suuuureeee

[split aurora]

I mean

I consider the chance of it being hacked

far more likely

then it being real

Given hacking's are very common

Also - such an oddly specific number

and

if it was real

who gave them the data

it was either hacked or a rogue employee, making bogus numbers

my 2 cents

[grand pier]

took a couple of days of mental health break from the news, did i miss anything important?

[hollow hollow]

stalemates on pretty much all fronts rn. the us and nato are currently planning to send old soviet long range sam systems to ukraine, and putin and zelensky could be meeting face-to-face at some point. also there was a lot of talk about a mall in in kyiv that was bombed earlier today, it was of course highly controversial but admittedly a valid target, as ukrainian grads were operating out of it

[grand pier]

Thanks, so all in all not much missed. guess we are gonna be in for a long one

[stark inlet]

https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1505752339029938176

IgorGirkin (@GirkinGirkin)

Мобилизация, Луганская обл

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 3:45 AM

so russians are being sent in with mosin nagants

[limber wagon]

Please be true and not just Propaganda or speculation 🤞

[viral junco]

Truly the peak of 21st century tech, a 19th century rifle which was outdated before wwii

[viral junco]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1506070095407292421?t=LQage2MUDooflXPTnLiReA&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Pentagon: US, other nations discuss provision of ‘long-range air defense’ to Ukraine.

Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said on March 21 that the U.S. is undergoing “active consultations” with other nations to provide Ukraine with weapons that they are “comfortable using.”

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[split aurora]

@stark inlet eh, this isn't as ridiculous as it seems

Use of old bolt action rifles as snipers is... fairly common

that things got a fat optic on it

A Mosin is a 100% competent medium range sniper

WW1 Lee-Enfield rifles are still used as snipes around parts of the world

and effectively

[split aurora]

yknow I do wonder how the ukranian supply situation is

its something we have next to no intel on

[limber wagon]

True, but we do know they've been receiving a lot of weapons shipments from all around

Though idk how distribution inside a warzone works. I imagine that getting weapons to a place like Mariupol might be a tad difficult atm

[split aurora]

yeah

bullets, food and water, I can't imagine are in huge supply there

and those are the most important 3

forget the fancy SAMs and Javelins

without bullets for your rifle, you army isn't worth anything

And I do wonder how they're holding up

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1730 Yet another intercepted call proving that occupants don't care if the buildings they shell have civilians in them

[split aurora]

Because if the supply lines are struggling, that'd be what could cause cracks in the line

[scarlet crown]

and you probably won't have any, the government asked everyone to not disclose any information on supply convoys, like where they are, etc

[split aurora]

yeah

[scarlet crown]

Zhytomyr region, march 21st https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2454

meanwhile kadyrovcy are still searching for Stepan Bandera

Borispol's mayor urges residents to leave the city due to fightings around it

from sapper association: over 80 thousand square kilometers of territory will need to be demined (striped areas, map status on 21st march 2022)

glory to the volunteers

[viral junco]

But it's the nagant

It's notoriously shit

The Germans in ww1 threw them away to us because they kept jamming

[copper monolith]

putin wants to live in the USSR so much that he made people believe it was still the early 50s when Bandera was still alive

[copper monolith]

"the intelligence told us"

what kind of dogshit intelligence is that that's telling the army to shell only houses, maternity wards and schools

must be meeting their "provide 10 locations a day" quota for each town

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1506110975711363074?s=20&t=3QhKD2VdftFAd7lIBx0F4w

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Ukrainian troops liberate Makariv.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported on March 21 that “the Ukrainian flag was raised over the town of Makariv” and Russian forces have been pushed back. Makariv is located 60 kilometres west from Kyiv.

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[zealous rapids]

Where’s the guardian popular

Cause I had to read an article on it for history class today. Or an article on ukraine. And I just used one here but Idk where the guardian is

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/UkraineNow/6599 in Kherson occupants are using tear gas to stop protesters. after the gas went away, most people came back to protesting

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1506217743472807940?s=20&t=3QhKD2VdftFAd7lIBx0F4w https://twitter.com/iloveindomieyes/status/1503643969766723584/photo/1

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

These are the indicative estimates of Russia’s losses as of March 22, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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Arthur Morgan's Indonesian alt 🇮🇩 (@iloveindomieyes)

@KyivIndependent

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[copper monolith]

based protestors

[copper monolith]

there's a pinned The Guardian live updates page pinned, could go there and maybe search for anything you have in mind

[limber wagon]

10 fuel tanks, amazing

[copper monolith]

[limber wagon]

Drones

[split aurora]

tear gas is weird

its a war crime to use against soldiers

but perfectly legal to use on civilians

[copper monolith]

almost 100 airplanes pog

[limber wagon]

iirc the reasoning is because first of all, just chemical warfare in general is banned, but even if you argue that teargas is 'harmless' enough; in a combat scenario you can't tell whether you're being sprayed with tear gas or "oh frick we're all gonna die" gas.

So its also partially just practical to not use it in the first place.

[split aurora]

yeah

fuck knows why there's no general ban on chemical warfare on civilians/protestors

well, no, I do know why, its just fucked

[limber wagon]

I mean, if there are no long term effects then idk why its "just fucked". Sometimes riots or whatever do need to be controlled, and if its effective, then that sounds fine to me

Even for controlling an individual. Sounds like a pretty good way to 'calm' someone who's being violent down.

Also pepper spray for individuals to protect themselves

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/UkrainaOnlline/23582 A church caught on fire in Latvia after priest asked if it's right to forgive russian soldiers

[limber wagon]

Feb 24th

[copper monolith]

wtf

[scarlet crown]

propagandists are yet again making ridiculous claims about Ukraine, now tying it's "pentagon funded bio-labs" to covid and blaming Ukraine for world's economical crisis

[split aurora]

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/effects-of-tear-gas

Study of 5910 people
2 fatalities
58 long term disabilities

[copper monolith]

this is so fucking dumb

[split aurora]

One of the fatalities was due to the impact of the canister though, so that can be pretty much negated

[limber wagon]

I read that, most of these seem to stem from how the gas was used rather than the gas itself

[split aurora]

mhmm

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2475 Two heavy bombs dropped on Mariupol today

[copper monolith]

[clear pebble]

It's so surreal that it's almost been a month since this all started

[scarlet crown]

I can't believe March is already ending

in my mind, yesterday was 24th of february

like at any day it's just there

I remember how I used to count days on the first week of war

nervewracking

but it has changed

we know what russians are capable of

[split aurora]

and now it looks like we'll be counting months or even years

[scarlet crown]

holding our defences strong for about 3 weeks already against world's second largest army

showing the whole world how miserable Russia truly is

[scarlet crown]

sadly

For civilians, it's a matter of waiting

one thing is for certain - victory will be ours

||https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2476 ||(explicit)
of course, the fucking horses were a bio-weapon too

https://t.me/UkrainaOnlline/23574 Looks like Ramzan is sending more fertilizer to us. I doubt we will actually see these troops, considering how often they act instead of taking action, and just by looking at the vehicles they're going with

[nocturne osprey]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1506113379118764033?t=9vZTLkbC-mUSjiBQ5nE9kg&s=19

NEXTA (@nexta_tv)

#Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

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lmaooooooo

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2478 literally shooting people in queues for food

[nocturne osprey]

vile pigs

[scarlet crown]

occupants dealing with armless protests with tear gas and open fire

[scarlet crown]

now it's about time we either:
a) burn them all
b) capture and send them to tend the fields

air defences in Kyiv region struck down "Tochka-U" rocket, remains fell in Dnipro river

[hollow hollow]

javelin turning a btr-82a into a bbq-82a https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1506219574508892165?s=21

🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons)

#Ukraine: A claimed Javelin ATGM striking a Russian BTR-82A, along with the aftermath. The vehicle is totally destroyed.

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Twitter · Mar 22, 2022, 10:41 AM

[copper monolith]

W

[scarlet crown]

another intercepted call of occupants under Mykolaiv. They say that it's worse than it was in Chechnya, about 50% of their people have frostburns. Their officer on the 4th day of war claimed that "the end of this operation is in near few hours", but those hours last for days. Their equipment leaves them wish for the better, some soldiers have barely practical vests

[limber wagon]

wdym with "the end of this operation is in near few hours"

[scarlet crown]

it's a direct quote

they're trying to reassure own forces but they're literally stuck at the same place for days

[limber wagon]

Ah, like that

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/UA_struggle/493 Looting level up, from small stores to literal supermarkets

fucking animals

of course, who needs supplies when you can just rob people

[copper monolith]

god damn savages didn't leave anything for actual people

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1734 from Zelenskiy's channel

[hushed magnet]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60832310

[copper monolith]

still not given a death sentence, surprising

[hushed magnet]

Maybe they're scared it'd cause more opposition??

[copper monolith]

they saw the opposition to Putin's war, so they're not really scared

[scarlet crown]

Nah, they're nowhere scared

Navalny did urge people to go and protest, but that failed awfully

[copper monolith]

yeah

[zealous rapids]

I found the article. I’m doing one I think you may have posted earlier. But I don’t know what the guardian is and I don’t want my teacher to think it’s not credible

[split aurora]

The guardian is a UK Newspaper

It's pretty credible for most issues

[copper monolith]

it's ok

[split aurora]

It's like a solid 6/10 newspaper

[viral junco]

The guardian has been operating for almost 200 years and has covered shitloads of things

[split aurora]

lmao

[copper monolith]

rounded up it do be a 6/10

[copper monolith]

https://www.thefactual.com/blog/is-the-guardian-reliable/

[hushed magnet]

Yeah ofc, but its the most i could think of

[split aurora]

:(

[copper monolith]

damn rip, I thought rt news was reliable on finding out what our fav irish gamer is doing

LAUGH

[split aurora]

i need to read this newspaper

[copper monolith]

wtf

[split aurora]

im scared

[copper monolith]

u should be, that's half the title

[split aurora]

it's an effective paper!

so true <3

[copper monolith]

relatable 10/10 😂 👌

[wicked panther]

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/kijk/2022/03/19/dronebeelden-s-arvato_47536771/

Drone-images of Mariopol destruction

[zealous rapids]

Thanks for the help cause I didn’t know

[scarlet crown]

Air raid sirens all over Ukraine currently

Heard way more explosions and air defences working than usual

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1736

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/LHreports/status/1506029416652156933

Lighthouse Reports (@LHreports)

75/ We've verified disturbing reports of an immigration detention centre in 🇺🇦 still holding as many as 45 people. They're being held due to immigration status. Facility is in the path of possible military incursion from Belarus

https://t.co/w3Zbbw1TnT

Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 10:06 PM

well this be fucked

[copper monolith]

[scarlet crown]

https://twitter.com/YourAnonTV/status/1506272971824025604

Anonymous TV 🇺🇦 (@YourAnonTV)

JUST IN: The #Anonymous collective has leaked the database of the largest food company in the world, Nestlé. Leaked 10GB data of emails, passwords, Nestlé business costumers, etc. #OpRussia #boycottnestle #PullOutOfRussia

Twitter · Mar 22, 2022, 2:13 PM

[copper monolith]

uh oh stinky

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2496 I'm not sure how this works, but cool i guess?

[copper monolith]

the most symbolic thing that means absolutely nothing

send fighter jets

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1753

[scarlet crown]

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/03/09/2003774460 :)

[copper monolith]

👀

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2498 Lozova, Kharkiv's region

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1756 heartwrenching

here's a small compilation of russian madmen propagandists threatening the west

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2512 💪

[copper monolith]

you go matt

[copper monolith]

"b-b-b-b-butt us is the most war mongering!!!!"

[scarlet crown]

I'm glad that one of these (Zhyrinovsky) fell in a coma

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2515

[copper monolith]

[wicked panther]

The bloodlust is going to their heads

[clear creek]

How are the stalemates today

[split aurora]

nothing much has changed

except promising reports of a large encircling in irpin

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1506265327973376009?t=7ggK9npdUb3J-o1zCrWf8Q&s=19

Sergej Sumlenny (@sumlenny)

According to unconfirmed but realistic looking reports, Russian troops have got surrounded in Bucha, Irpin and Hostomel area near Kyiv, cut from supplies. If true - the biggest defeat of a Russian army until now, and Ukraine needs to start worrying about too many POWs.

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Twitter · Mar 22, 2022, 1:43 PM

Twitter full of ever increasingly gruesome videos from mariupol and kherson