#the_ukraine_situation

1 messages · Page 44 of 1

wicked panther
#

Right?

copper monolith
#

based?

unknown.png
stark inlet
#

Unless by blitzkrieg he means slow and painful death

#

Then ye sure

hushed magnet
#

is it just me or does it look like he aged 10 years in that pic

viral junco
#

The worst part of an earthquake isn't it happening

#

It's the aftermath

#

Structures are damaged but not fully, so it only takes a small tremor to take skyscrapers down

stark harness
#

Aftershocks are scary

viral junco
#

What we have witnessed so far with the sanctions is the main earthquake

#

We just need that little shake and it'll all come tumbling down on putin

leaden grove
#

Hopefully

#

But so far it seems like Putin is trying to replace everyone he distrusts

#

And launch tons of lawsuits against everyone who opposes the government

copper monolith
#

I keep hearing dad's russian propaganda say "for victory, for country, for the president", and I can't help but think of the nazi posters "ein volk, ein reich, ein fuhrer"

stark harness
leaden grove
#

hmmmm

#

Also something else I‘d like to draw attention to is this short article, I believe that Kallas makes a very good point with the headline as well: https://news.err.ee/1608534163/estonian-pm-west-should-not-say-it-will-not-intervene-in-ukraine

ERR
Estonian PM: West should not say it will not intervene in Ukraine

The West should not publically say it will never intervene in Ukraine, Prime Minister Kaja Kallas (Reform) said on Wednesday. President Vladimir Putin should not be able to feel like he can act with impunity, she added.

hushed magnet
stark harness
#

I hope he also replaces every competent doctor or surgeon around him

#

Wouldn’t that be wacky

leaden grove
#

The amount of denial in Russia is insane

stark harness
leaden grove
#

Indeed, that‘s good public broadcasting for you

limber wagon
leaden grove
#

Yeah

#

Like most countries they have a lot of debt in other countries

#

And this was just one deadline, there‘s more to come

limber wagon
#

So this just means they managed to not default for this month, but who knows about the next one?

leaden grove
#

Arguably the process could be sped up if the EU actually also disconnected Sberbank from SWIFT

#

Yup!

limber wagon
#

Well, I guess not every country will have the same payment date, so maybe not even month. just the next upcoming due date

leaden grove
#

Though they‘re also trying to negotiate some sort of deal with India

#

The details are a bit of a mystery as of now

limber wagon
#

India's stance has been a bit disappointing.

leaden grove
#

The point is that they are likely to default, but it might take months

limber wagon
#

Though I guess its because they receive a lot of military stuff from Russia

leaden grove
#

And they are still earning tons of cash through gas & oil exports

#

Yeah, India has become a close ally of Russia over the years

#

And while they don’t want to publicly be seen as close (e. g. by not voting on the UN resolution condemning the war), they do support Putin economically

#

Kallas said that she complained about this to Scholz himself ._.

copper monolith
#

Scholz has been saying this like every day for the last 22 days

leaden grove
#

Indeed

#

At this point he spends more time talking about what he definitely won’t do than what he will do

copper monolith
#

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504448706174672897?s=20&t=dCWg_NOuF5bA_-Ec8OysZw https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504448769307426819?s=20&t=dCWg_NOuF5bA_-Ec8OysZw

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Ukraine’s military intelligence: Syria to provide Russia with 40,000 mercenaries.

Some 150 Syrians were transferred to Russia to take part in its war against Ukraine on March 15; up to 300 are ordered to be sent to Ukraine every day.

Likes

2815

Retweets

1017

Twitter ·
The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

More weapons and military equipment are planned to be transferred from Syria to Russia and Belarus soon, Ukraine’s military intelligence reports. According to the report, some Syrian mercenaries see this as an opportunity for illegal immigration to the EU.

Likes

2293

Retweets

653

Twitter ·
leaden grove
#

And note that this statement came right after Zelenskyy gave a speech in the German parliament

copper monolith
#

ah yes, the modern, advanced equipment from Syria

leaden grove
#

Terrific

copper monolith
#

which got it's modern, advanced equipment in the first place from...

#

checks notes

#

russia

leaden grove
#

👀

copper monolith
#

clownfest

leaden grove
#

Honestly I don’t think those Syrian mercenaries will stand a chance

#

Because like you said, they’ve poor equipment, but also incredibly poor morale

viral junco
#

My German friend told me how they're so upset scholz got in during the election

#

Now I can agree that he's a fucking gobshite through and through

leaden grove
#

Because I highly doubt any of them feel that happy about fighting in Ukraine

copper monolith
#

but u see they fought the rebels in the desert, therefore they can deal with the early spring temperate climate and pown the up to date NATO armory

viral junco
#

E.g. sending weapons that don't work to ukraine

leaden grove
copper monolith
leaden grove
#

And Lindner is being incredibly elitist once again

#

The only minister whose performance I‘m somewhat happy with is Baerbock

#

Because she‘s really doing a good job but it’s clear that her hands are tied because of Scholz‘ stance on this

viral junco
#

Martin, the taoiseach here, is doing an ok job I'd say

leaden grove
#

That’s good to hear

viral junco
#

He's not giving guns to ukraine partially due to how we've near none already here, but we're letting in refugees and giving them places to stay, as well as humanitarian aid

copper monolith
#

interrogators can't believe that it's possible to think for oneself

unknown.png
viral junco
#

The UK are doing next to nothing and I saw sky news try to claim how kind the British people were when talking about refugees in Ireland

copper monolith
#

(u can watch the latest post in the pinned bbc news)

leaden grove
viral junco
#

Next to nothing in aiding refugees, i mean

#

Militarily I'm pretty sure they're giving good NLAWS and such

leaden grove
#

Well, a lot of Brits signed up online to provide housing, but all of that is pointless if people can’t actually get to the UK

viral junco
#

Yeah

leaden grove
#

Their visa scheme is a bad joke

viral junco
#

Johnson government continue to be as hostile as possible yeah

leaden grove
#

I mean, the Home Office just does a poor job treating everyone

#

I‘ve heard of Brits who are more or less stranded in the EU because they can’t get the necessary documents to move back to the UK

#

And at the same time they can’t lead a normal life in the EU because one of the requirements for moving back is giving away their IDs

#

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1504201062097563649 who doesn’t love random American journalists

Michael Tracey (@mtracey)

The parliament of Estonia has formally demanded a No Fly Zone, which effectively means they have formally demanded that the US impose a No Fly Zone. Isn't it great to be in a sprawling military alliance with tiny countries who demand insane actions they could never do themselves

Likes

4339

Retweets

793

Twitter ·
split aurora
#

ireland has let in 67

#

ireland with like 1/15th the population of the UK

split aurora
#

I disagree with parts of this

#

The chairman of the Reform Party said she had emphasized in a meeting with UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Monday that the best way to achieve peace is to give a clear signal that the West will intervene if necessary to prevent the situation from worsening.

#

That's just threatening war

#

threatening an invasion of russia helps... nobody

leaden grove
#

It‘s not about threatening it, it‘s about not revealing all your moves

split aurora
#

The prime minister said it has also been difficult for Putin to explain why he is attacking Ukraine, long regarded as a brother nation. Instead, he has built a narrative that NATO is attacking Russia.

....and by threatening to invade russia

leaden grove
#

Of course you can decide against an intervention

split aurora
#

you're reinforcing putins narrative

#

and strengthening it

leaden grove
#

But constantly saying that you won’t get involved is helping no one

#

If anything, it just tells Putin that he can do whatever he wants

split aurora
#

will meanss, well, that it will definitely happen

leaden grove
#

Yeah

split aurora
#

so shes saying

#

we should

#

say

#

we will

#

invade

leaden grove
#

"Will if necessary"

#

No

split aurora
#

russia

leaden grove
#

No one‘s invading Russia either way

split aurora
#

yet they are threatening it

limber wagon
split aurora
#

nice

limber wagon
#

Almost at the edge of Kherson

leaden grove
#

I don‘t quite follow your logic if I‘m being honest, this isn’t about making decisions but about communication

#

I think that especially Scholz‘ statements are very counterproductive

split aurora
#

she is saying you should threaten to invade russia

#

you shouldnt do that

#

I don't know what Scholz' has been saying

#

I've not been keeping up with the german response

#

I'm saying that paragraph, I heavily disagree with

leaden grove
#

It’s even the same wording most of the time

split aurora
#

I mean.... good?

leaden grove
#

I disagree

split aurora
#

I don't see how saying nato wont intervene military is a bad thing

#

because we should not intervene militarily

leaden grove
#

Maybe we shouldn’t

split aurora
#

there are next to no circumstances where we should

leaden grove
#

But constantly saying that out loud is sending a message that Russia is free to do whatever they want

split aurora
#

no its not

#

lmao

#

the west has more options then a military intervention

leaden grove
#

Because Putin personally doesn’t seem to care about sanctions, he‘ll be fine, even if his country isn’t

split aurora
#

No he won't be fine

#

thats like standing on a sinking ship and saying "ah sure ill be grand"

leaden grove
#

That’s what he‘s doing

split aurora
#

Putin being delusion doesn't mean the sanctions arent having an impact on him, his leadership and his nation

split aurora
#

means

#

nothing

#

because whether or not he cares

leaden grove
#

I mean, we‘re likely to see a "purge" in the coming weeks

split aurora
#

the sanctions will still do the same damage to his economy

#

that will do the same damage to the oligarchs

#

who will plunge the same daggers into putins back

leaden grove
#

I wouldn’t count on the oligarchs alone

split aurora
#

physically or metaphorically, we wait and see

#

I wouldn't personally give out that message Scholz did... but I don't see it as much of a loss either

#

and I don't agree with part of the estonians PM advice

leaden grove
#

He spends most of his speeches talking about what he won’t do

split aurora
#

I think thats just raising tensions for no gain

leaden grove
#

Eh, but I get where you‘re coming from

split aurora
#

I don't really know how Scholz has acted in the context of this invasion

#

bar the weapons transfers (good) and the military rearming (bad)

leaden grove
#

Note that the weapons transfers didn’t fully work out because he ended up shipping faulty missiles from the GDR

split aurora
#

i know a lot from german friends about his pre-war domestic policies, which have been across the board good

split aurora
leaden grove
#

It later turned out that they had been stored in some forgotten warehouse and were partly covered in mold

leaden grove
split aurora
#

sure

leaden grove
#

And let‘s just say that his performance as chancellor is an entire different thing

split aurora
#

but I much prefer him to the CDU

leaden grove
#

Same

#

The CDU has started catering to the same voters as the FDP

copper monolith
leaden grove
copper monolith
scarlet crown
#

Update on Mariupol https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1480

Telegram
Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

🛑The situation in Mariupol as of March 17

The situation in Mariupol is critical. The city has been under blockade for 16 days; more than 350,000 Mariupol residents continue to hide in shelters and basements from continuous shelling by Russian occupation forces. From 50 to 100 air bombs are dropped on the city per day. The destruction is enormou...

proven steppe
#

motherfuckers

haughty yew
proven steppe
#

lets go

clear creek
#

Arnold's mesige to the Russian peapol god bless this man

stark inlet
#

huge threats for a country with 1.4T GDP lmao

#

California alone has 3T GDP, Canada has 1.6T

viral junco
#

italy has a bigger gdp than russia

limber wagon
#

Netherlands has 2/3 the GDP of Russia despite being over 400 times smaller lol

stark inlet
#

I swear to god

limber wagon
#

B

stark inlet
#

B

snow pecan
#

mcdonalds at home

stark harness
#

This has got to be meme

#

Russia what the fuck

#

downright embarassing to see

stark inlet
#

em🅱️arassing

split aurora
#

BcBonalds

unreal path
#

BurgerTing

stark harness
#

might as well put a hammer and sickle in ffs

copper monolith
#

mkvannya

copper monolith
#

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504512965172772868?s=20&t=JxvG87GHJuORGXDv2GRSEA https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504514587642769409?s=20&t=JxvG87GHJuORGXDv2GRSEA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Podolyak: Ukraine's main demand – ceasefire, troop withdrawal.

In an interview with Meduza, a key member of Ukraine’s peace talk delegation said that Ukraine demands that Russia pulls back its troops to pre-full scale war positions.

Likes

3293

Retweets

582

Twitter ·
The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ When asked about Donbas and Crimea, occupied by Russia in 2014, Podolyak didn’t give a direct answer calling pre-war positions a status quo.

Likes

1023

Retweets

143

Twitter ·
clear creek
#

The full force of the Belgian media is holding a charety event last time i checked we where at 8mil for Ukraine and the main event has not even started yet

#

The name is
12
12
Btw

copper monolith
#

nice

unreal path
#

starts at 3pm EST

#

its 2:46 est atm

paper cedar
#

some people I know already donated

clear creek
#

Also in more blursed news the Belgian royal famely is gonne house 3 hole Ukranian fammely's.......
just the 3.....

Look Fillip i love you but come on man

scenic galleon
mighty tusk
#

fucking incredible

#

so moving

copper monolith
#

that was so amazing

#

retweet worthy, and I rarely retweet

#

for everyone else, translation: "the city stood, it stands, and it will stand. Always. Understood? That's all. Odesa is the centre of the world. It's time to know that he came not for that. This is Odesa, Odesa, Odesa, it's a specific city, we will not let anybody in, they will choke. That's all, boys. Thank you!"

scarlet crown
#

💪 grandma for the winnn lets fucking gooo

#

she is right though

#

Odesa doesn't have it's "Hero city" title for nothing

copper monolith
leaden grove
#

That makes the Saeima the third parliament to pass a motion in support of a (possibly UN-mandated) no-fly zone

copper monolith
tired scaffold
#

NFT
:/

scarlet crown
copper monolith
#

👀

scarlet crown
#

https://t.me/UkrainaOnlline/23053 footage of russian occupants looting a house in Ukraine. they take pride in it, being jealous of ukrainian people for owning something as simple as a jar of nutella

Telegram
Украина Online Новости Война

Посмотрите, что творят российские орки в домах мирным украинских жителей

Картина маслом: дикие обезьяны на прогулке.

Украина без цензуры | Новости

copper monolith
#

"укропы" WeirdChamp

#

if only that shell shot in the distance landed on top of them

scarlet crown
#

i wish

#

now this is just ridiculous https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1507

Telegram
Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

🤯 The UK Defense Secretary Ben Wallace said that he was called by an impostor who introduced himself as the Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmyhal.

After several "misleading questions", the minister decided that the conversation was suspicious and hung up.

PM Shmyhal later commented on the fake call and advised minister Wallace to use next ...

#

https://t.me/UkraineNow/5820 :')

Telegram
Ukraine NOW

💙💛 Згинуть наші вороженьки як роса на сонці! Запануєм і ми, браття, у своїй сторонці!

Навіть у найскладніші моменти музика з нами. Слава Україні! Слава кожному захиснику України!

copper monolith
copper monolith
fierce arch
split aurora
copper monolith
#

lmao this is great

hollow hollow
scarlet crown
#

it is the case

split aurora
scarlet crown
scarlet crown
copper monolith
#

lmao nice

unreal path
#

at one point towards the end he said (not exact quote but still) the one who wins the information war wins the war -_- bruh I thought this was a "special military operation"

scarlet crown
#

they're barely hiding it now

#

plus, if we take that statement as true, we had already won

copper monolith
#

broke character lol

unreal path
#

yeah, I mean what's the point of him even showing up to these meetings at this point

copper monolith
#

also gg the only ones that gobble up russia's fake news is some russians and pro russian countries that number in the single digits

unreal path
#

little pro tip for youtube, not every vid has this but on the 3 dot menu you can enable a transcript and you can ctrl-f to find words you are looking for

unknown.png
unreal path
copper monolith
#

u dont need to see a transcript to know everything this bald fuck is saying is false

unreal path
#

oh ofc

#

also incase you are wondering the Ukraine rep also talked to the press

split aurora
#

this is like

#

very basic training stuff

#

(nothing graphic just russians being inept and not understanding how to take cover)

#

oh yeah these are VDV, the supposedly "elite" units

scarlet crown
#

i can barely understand what's happening

#

they're moving so

#

out of order?

scarlet crown
copper monolith
#

romanov_92-22

scarlet crown
#

the elite force in all their glory

#

it's like a sick tradition

copper monolith
#

when these kids see actual combat 😳

copper monolith
copper monolith
#

monkaW https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504608296325595136?s=20&t=FigayXAI4OCK2KQYjt_mRw https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504608297638404096?s=20&t=FigayXAI4OCK2KQYjt_mRw

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Russia's Ministry of Internal Affairs and FSB receive order to check all Ukrainian citizens living in Moscow.

Russian news outlet OVDinfo spoke to 2 Ukrainian citizens living in Moscow who said security services searched their apartments & demanded they unlock their phones.

Likes

1697

Retweets

790

Twitter ·
The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

They reportedly offered some Ukrainians accelerated Russian citizenship, while others were charged with petty hooliganism.

Likes

900

Retweets

206

Twitter ·
viral junco
split aurora
#

theres... no organization, no coordination

#

everyones running around like a headless chicken.

viral junco
#

i mean in fairness like four general's brains have been turned into soup in the past few weeks alone

split aurora
#

one of the most important things in military training, is learning the ability to over-ride the natural panic and fight or flight when bullets start flying

scarlet crown
split aurora
#

and, well, you can see just how well that trainings gone here

scarlet crown
#

They were all just medals and badges

#

And 0 practice

dark tide
#

I expected China to lessen the impact of the western sanctions a bit, but this comes as a potential surprise

IMG_8596.jpg
woven merlin
#

no not really, from india's point of view, its pretty logical to do so

#

russia has supported india in the past and china is a rival, by forming an economic agreement with russia over china, it can accomplish want it wants

icy ridge
#

Uh oh, whatever should you do now without all your money ?

Screenshot_20220317-201206.png
scarlet crown
#

let him eat it raw like a pig that he is

#

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1514

Telegram
Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

Our Mariupol, our Kharkiv, our Chernihiv, Kyiv region, Izyum and all our hero cities. Which are in a very difficult situation. We are doing everything. All of us. Absolutely. Our army, police, SES, humanitarian convoys, church... All our people. We will not leave you. And we will not forgive them. You will be free. Definitely. I know it. Like al...

stark inlet
#

Saying its legit vdv paradrop footage

#

god im still chuckling

scarlet crown
#

from Mykhailo Podolyaks twitter

IMG_20220318_102041_346.jpg
split aurora
#

hmmmmm

#

Yknow I don't really believe that

limber wagon
#

True, its hard to accurately poll something if people feel pressured to answer a certain way

#

Like "agree or you're gonna disappear"

split aurora
#

Plus there was no source cited in the tweet/replies

#

I don't doubt the numbers did come from a source

#

I just wanna look more into it

verbal heath
#

🇺🇦 🙏

limber wagon
#

I think even if there is a reliable source, those could still be very much not in line with reality because of my above point

split aurora
#

yeaaaah

#

Plus as well, one has to take into account how few Russians have the full information

#

and focus on giving them access to information

viral junco
#

New boat scuttled pog

limber wagon
#

Poggers, still havent moved my excel sheet to dropbox so I can access it at work

copper monolith
#

fuk was about to post but had to make a call

split aurora
#

I wonder if this was confirming the patrol boat that was hit a few days ago

#

or if this is another one

limber wagon
#

Yesterday for comparison

unknown.png
#

7 planes yesterday

viral junco
#

4 helis

#

13 APCs

#

15 vehicles

#

6 tanks

#

4 artys

#

And 1 UAV

copper monolith
#

@ artillery pieces

leaden grove
split aurora
#

interesting

#

gave it a light read now, will read in full after my exam

#

got my final mock exam today, 2.5h long 😩

copper monolith
#

gl dood

split aurora
#

lmfao

copper monolith
#

lo

split aurora
#

and like

#

this shows russias self sufficiency levels

#

as plastic is made from russias most abundant raw material

#

(oil)

copper monolith
#

the sanctions are tough but we'll get through 😎

split aurora
#

like two days later
"Help plastic machine broken :("

proven steppe
#

bcbonalds be like

scarlet crown
copper monolith
split aurora
#

hahaha

copper monolith
#

https://kyivindependent.com/national/rental-prices-soar-in-western-ukraine-amid-influx-of-refugees/

The Kyiv Independent
Natalia Datskevych
Rental prices soar in western Ukraine amid influx of refugees

Millions of Ukrainians have been forced to flee their homes as Russian forces continue to bombard residential areas across the country. While more than 3 million have gone abroad, many have relocated to western Ukraine, which is currently safer than the rest of the country. English teacher Oleksiy Shpak and […]

limber wagon
scarlet crown
scarlet crown
scarlet crown
copper monolith
#

to the Hague that video goes

scarlet crown
#

I'm glad officials from there had already begun the investigation

leaden grove
#

"Villpower"

copper monolith
hushed magnet
#

Thats harrowing holy shit

scarlet crown
#

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1541 from Dmytro Kuleba

Telegram
Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

❗️Minister of foreign affairs Dmytro Kuleba also commented Olaf Scholz's position — to accuse only Putin in aggression :

«Some people want to live in a simple world, where Putin is the only one, fully responsible for the war. The reality is that someone is actually dropping bombs on Ukrainian cities, shooting evacuees, forming a «Z», supporting...

scarlet crown
copper monolith
#

how about u get wiped out off the face of the earth instead putler

scarlet crown
#

oh really

#

wouldn't that be a direct call of war

#

to NATO?

#

hope it'll be more than just words

unknown.png
copper monolith
#

nice

#

also pls cease dependency on russian farts https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504773379974443025?s=20&t=WGcHL0uSrQa77s5vXTs9Gg https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504773434928214019?s=20&t=WGcHL0uSrQa77s5vXTs9Gg

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Metsola calls for European energy independence to stop funding Russia's war.

Europe needs to reduce its energy dependence on Russian gas to zero, President of the EU Parliament Roberta Metsola told LRT. Otherwise, “we will continue to finance the war directly and indirectly.”

Likes

2267

Retweets

466

Twitter ·
The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

“Brave Ukrainians are destroying Russian tanks every day, and we are paying for Russia to build new ones,” Metsola said.

Likes

1928

Retweets

328

Twitter ·
#

hi grandpa these scumfucks are nearing your birthplace, according to wikipedia map, would u still think russkies are only shelling military installations if one of their tanks rolls over your parents graves?

unknown.png
scarlet crown
scarlet crown
copper monolith
#

it's unfortunate that some were born in the warzones, especially Mariupol

scarlet crown
copper monolith
#

nice

scarlet crown
copper monolith
split aurora
#

Russia... doesnt have the means to attack convoys on the far west of the country

#

expect by air

limber wagon
#

They've been threatening almost everyone lol. A some point it just looses all meaning

split aurora
#

and ukraines air force still very much has the upper hand in the far west of country

#

like they don't physically have the means to effectively attack the convoy

#

itd be a suicide mission

copper monolith
#

I mean

#

this whole invasion has been a suicide mission

#

see VDV dropping in the middle of Ukrainian forces and literally being burnt to a crisp

copper monolith
#

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504797422865854466?s=20&t=2p5vMvZF9BlZ8EeP46A1sQ

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️6-year-old boy gives his drone to Ukraine's military.

The boy from Sumy Oblast decided to give his own birthday gift to the military after hearing about their needs for UAVs, the Ukrainian parliament’s Educational Center reported.

Photo: Educational Center of Verkhovna Rada https://t.co/K0he9rAGto

Likes

12433

Retweets

1637

Twitter ·
scarlet crown
zinc talon
limber wagon
#

This seems like a pretty good video not just looking at all the optimistic things we hear from the pro-Ukrainian side of things, but also the videos from the Russian side of things. So it includes footage that we don't really see, because no one likes sharing videos of Ukrainian soldiers being defeated or their stuff being taken/blown up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igq2fqa7RY4

YouTube
Task & Purpose
Ukraine Fog of War: What's Really Happening?

The third week of the Russian invasion of Ukraine is covered in the fog of war and that can be confusing. In this episode we investigate some of the Russian claims of victories and advances around the country to avoid falling into a cognitive bias trap. I suggest that we're living in a bubble thanks to the social media platforms that are pushing...

▶ Play video
scarlet crown
#

they're just too little, comparing to occupant losses

limber wagon
#

I believe its important to also have a look at the things that you don't like to see. Otherwise your perspective gets warped and you wont be able to see the full picture. If you only look at pro Ukrainian sources, then of course things are gonna be biased towards being more optimistic. Especially if you also throw in sources from the Ukrainian government or military. Of course they're gonna tell as little negative things as possible, its in their best interest to not do so.

split aurora
#

mhmm

#

and western governments also class as pro-ukranian sources

#

and most western media

#

bar maybe like, fox news

scarlet crown
limber wagon
# split aurora and most western media

Plus on social media. If you're in largely pro Ukrainian communities, then you can be less inclined to share negative news like that, or repost it. Leading to some echo chamber-y-ness

limber wagon
split aurora
#

plus most (but not all) OSINT groups have agreed not to report some forms of intel on ukranian troops

#

which, for better or worse, reduces a lot of what we can see on the other side

limber wagon
#

That as well

split aurora
#

(I say for better or worse simply as I'm not sure myself whether its for better or worse)

limber wagon
#

Depends on who you are. From our perspective its worse, since we get less info, but of course for the soldiers and people in Ukraine its better, because the less info about Ukrainian troop positions, numbers, capabilities, etc the better.

split aurora
#

I think to myself though, about the second half

limber wagon
#

And this is mostly in the form of citizens reporting where troops are on Telegram and the likes. Everyone is gonna report sightings of Russian troops, but people are less inclined to report on Ukrainian troops. Especially after the government asked people to do exactly that

split aurora
#

"Why am I saying its good they aren't reporting on ukranian capabilities or troop positions"

#

And I come to the conclusion > its because I support the ukranian side in this war

#

OSINT groups are, by nature,meant to be detached from state control and provide open source intelligence fairly to all

#

Which is what puts me in a moral :/

#

I dunno!

#

Moral decisions are complicated!

scarlet crown
#

yknow, we are kind of fighting off a fascist menace that bombs pretty much everything and calls it a "special de-nazification operation"

#

so I think it is morally correct not to help them by any means, including reports of Ukrainian positions

limber wagon
#

oh of course, comparing being curious vs potentially less people being murdered is a very easy decision

scarlet crown
#

yep

scarlet crown
#

im confused though, wasn't there a thread a while ago that the 40 mile convoy was meaningless

#

or just

#

didn't really get the task done

limber wagon
#

Not sure honestly

#

Could be that people just have different thoughts about it

#

Fog of war and all

scarlet crown
#

yeah

leaden grove
#

BEHOLD

IMG_9198.jpg
copper monolith
#

lmao

scarlet crown
#

god, the import replacement

limber wagon
#

So what are the chances this is gonna get hacked in a week?

scarlet crown
#

just like your average coke cole

leaden grove
#

Very high

#

At some point they’re gonna replace YouTube with GazpromTube

#

Which would actually fit

scarlet crown
#

they already have rutube i think

copper monolith
copper monolith
# copper monolith 2 worlds

mass spreader event https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504822735641399297?s=20&t=juTZxoBNrM5NimHrsQnoIw

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Pro-war rally held in Moscow, tens of thousands attend.

At least 81,000 people attend a pro-war rally in Moscow’s Luzhniki stadium. Russian authorities claim over 200,000 people attend the event celebrating Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014.

Likes

1485

Retweets

426

Twitter ·
scarlet crown
#

another woman also came on the stage and began to say "so what are the values that our country keeps close?" or something in those words

#

and livestream directors just cut off the sound

copper monolith
#

was she suppose to come on it or it was all sudden

scarlet crown
#

supposed to

copper monolith
#

lmao imagine being censored by your own censorship machine

stark inlet
scarlet crown
#

everything kind of simmered down on the news front rn, nothing's major yet, apart from some more promises from european countries and getting occupants out on several positions

#

artillery shots on civil structures is not something I count anymore, those became almost a daily thing

limber wagon
#

Its sad to see how long this shit has been going on.

scarlet crown
#

Yeah

#

it can get you down at points, but gotta stay optimistic, all odds are on our side

fierce arch
scarlet crown
#

doesn't seem like it

#

if so, there's just too many accidents for a single livestream

copper monolith
scarlet crown
fierce arch
#

@scarlet crown you safe?

scarlet crown
#

yeah, I'm in Odesa

#

it's relatively quiet here

fierce arch
#

ik but russian troops are slowly edging towards it

scarlet crown
#

that is a not confirmed/highly suggestive thing to say

#

you could say the same about yesterday, or march 15th

#

whenever

#

it's just not true

wicked panther
scarlet crown
scarlet crown
wicked panther
#

Mhm

scarlet crown
#

then sound gets cut off and gets back on the "country and nation", then fades again

wicked panther
#

Oh so its not about the speech but more about the technical problems

wicked panther
scarlet crown
#

I mean, if we really take the "technical problem" approach, there's one too many issues that happened during this supposedly big livestream

nocturne tusk
leaden grove
#

A lot of people seem to have left after they presented their tickets though

leaden grove
unreal path
#

This guy again eyeroll

clear creek
#

How much longer can Russia pay the price of this war

copper monolith
#

until they pay for all the damage they've done

fierce arch
#

isolationism never works

copper monolith
#

orders what

clear creek
leaden grove
copper monolith
#

lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAMz5kgb7V4

unknown.png
YouTube
Economics Explained
The Rather Pathetic Economy of Russia

This video was made possible by our Patreon community! ❤️
See new videos early, participate in exclusive Q&As, and more!
➡️ https://www.patreon.com/EconomicsExplained

▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀

Enjoyed the video? Comment below! 💬
⭑ Subscribe to Economics Explained 👉 https://bit.ly/sub2ee
⭑ Enjoyed? Hit the like button! 👍

Q&A Streams on EEII (2...

▶ Play video
split aurora
#

lmfao

scarlet crown
#

what's the catch

split aurora
#

theres none

#

theres a direct correlation between being anti-vax and pro russia

#

if i had to guess, its linked to susceptibility to mis-information and or opposition to mainstream media standpoints

scarlet crown
#

ah

limber wagon
#

I will say, n=1035 is kinda low. especially when you consider 85.8% of Canadians have had at least 1 dose

#

meaning that the 'vaccine refusers' (which btw is kinda a sussy group name) is only 147 people

split aurora
#

they give the MOE as 3.1%

#

assuming the polling company has done their maths correctly, 3.1% really isnt bad

#

EKOS was the company behind the poll

#

I've not seen anything particularly positive or negative about them

limber wagon
#

Yeah, but is that for all the people or the smallest group?

leaden grove
#

All the people I think

split aurora
limber wagon
#

Its not that I don't neccecarily believe these statistics. Seems not unreasonable. But I find the name "vaccine deniers" a bit suspect. Since a title like that is kinda .... dunno what to call it

split aurora
#

Poll weighting is a thing

limber wagon
#

it paints that group as just vaccine deniers while there are also people who just cant take the vaccine for other reasons. The fact that they gave it that name jsut makes me question how unbiased they are

split aurora
#

mhmm

#

thats fair

#

I don't know enough about EKOS to really comment more

limber wagon
#

me neither

split aurora
#

soooo take it with a pinch of salt

tender canyon
#

there might be people in that group who are unable to get it for medical reasons, but i'd imagine the majority are just anti-vaxxers

grand pier
#

someone that cant take the vaccine due to medical reasons is not someone that refuses to take the vaccine

limber wagon
#

^

tender canyon
#

that's a fair point

grand pier
#

they very specifically chose the wording vaccine refusers for that poll so that it would exclude medical excemptions

limber wagon
#

The problem is the naming. not the "well technically its still accurate". If they wanted to be neutral they could have just said "no vaccines"

#

which it isn't since not being able to take it isnt refusing in most senses

grand pier
#

it's probably how they asked it in the poll since most people that refuse the vaccine are pretty vocal in their refusal and wear the title as a badge of honor (in my experience at least)

#

so due to asking it like that they dont immediately turn away the people they actually want to poll

tender canyon
#

yeah, i think you're right. i was really just correcting the language from "deniers" to "refusers" because i think those are different things

limber wagon
split aurora
#

my dad had some pretty nasty side effects from his 3rd dose

#

and has already said he'll refuse the 4th when offered

#

significant side effects are very rare, but I can see why they'd make more cautious/paranoid people wary, especially if they know someone who had negative reactions

copper monolith
#

beats dying from lack of oxygen

split aurora
#

mhmm

#

But I can see why my dad - having gone to the doctors with massive painful swelling across the entire left side of his body - will be put off by that

#

I intend to get my 3rd dose shortly

#

became eligible start of this month, but wanted to leave it till after exams

#

as both 1st and 2nd dose have made me ill for a couple days

viral junco
#

I need to see when i need my 4th

#

Got mine a few days prior to xmas

split aurora
#

UK's only just starting 4ths, so will probably be near end of the year I'm eligible

#

at very minimum if they rush it to all 18+, it'll be 12 weeks after 3rd dose

#

since the uk has always enforced the 12 week gap between vaccines, where most nations did 21 days

tender canyon
#

canada was 12 weeks as well

#

but the waiting lists were so long most went a good 5-6 months in between doses

split aurora
#

here there arent really waiting lists

#

except like, the first dose rollout

#

as we do ours in age bands

#

80+, then 70+, then 65+, then 60+ etc.

#

down to 12+

viral junco
copper monolith
#

flushblur whoooot?

copper monolith
copper monolith
hollow hollow
scarlet crown
# copper monolith 🧵 https://twitter.com/BBCWillVernon/status/1504838568514052098

https://t.me/UkrainaOnlline/23193 also here's why the livestream cut off: some viewers started to whistle at Putin

Telegram
Украина Online Новости Война

❗️Вот почему трансляцию Путина сегодня прерывали и включили в записи Газманова, потому что Путина начали освистывать зрители

Неудобненько получилось, царя освистали😕

🇺🇦Украина Online

copper monolith
#

😔 wow what a poor guy

scarlet crown
clear creek
#

I had to make a future cenario for a class project set in 2040

Both Russia and china are in civel wars and Brazil was forced to cede the Amazon to the UN for reconstruction

#

Btw Putin has been pushed back to siberia if you are wondering how the civel war went for him

shrewd cave
#

that seems like best case scenario for the earth, but i like the positivity

#

well, as positive as civil wars can be under dictatorships

split aurora
#

a russian/chinese civil war isnt "the best case scenario"

#

its about the worst case scenario

#

for the earth and the people on it

viral junco
split aurora
#

some nice games in there

scarlet crown
#

Hell yea these are

#

back 4 blood tho...

#

they can keep it

raven fossil
#

Satisfactory is a banger of a videogame

stable girder
#

Sorry for ping

split aurora
#

final tally... $6.37million

#

with 450k contributors all giving money

scarlet crown
copper monolith
icy ridge
copper monolith
copper monolith
split aurora
#

lmfao

copper monolith
hollow hollow
#

tin foil hat time: i think china is only acting all "we disapprove of what russia is doing in ukraine" so that they can sneak military and economic aid to russia more easily. if they don't openly support moscow, i feel like the west will pay less attention to that kind of stuff

#

i know russia is kind of a little brother to china rn, but considering how much the chinese military relies on russian tech, i find it hard to believe they'd just let them continue to get assblasted like this

#

also here's a video of another "never been shot down" ka-52 getting shot down lmaoo https://twitter.com/azyakancokkacan/status/1504785437902188573

SR_71 (@azyakancokkacan)

Geolocation of the Russian Ka-52 helicopter making an emergency landing. https://t.co/govoNzSUXN

@oryxspioenkop @Danspiun @AbraxasSpa @aldin_ww @COUPSURE @TheDeadDistrict @Rebel44CZ @RALee85 @john_marquee @Osinttechnical @kemal_115 @pmakela1 @Michael1Sheldon @gfusfus

Likes

134

▶ Play video
Twitter ·
unreal path
hollow hollow
scarlet crown
#

key word is some

wicked panther
#

I wonder if Belgium is one of those countries

#

lemme check

#

nope it just stationed 300 troops in Romania

leaden grove
#

This tweet mentions a few more countries, I‘m trying to verify them: https://twitter.com/alexandruc4/status/1504941381126705167

AlexandruC4 (@AlexandruC4)

7 NATO countries have stated that they would support a NATO Peacekeeping mission into Ukraine: Slovenia, Czechia, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and now Denmark, there are rumors that France and Slovakia would also Vote Yes.

Likes

2362

Retweets

452

Twitter ·
#

I can confirm it for Denmark too, though note that this is just the minister of defense so far, the government has not made any public statements so far

IMG_9215.png
paper cedar
#

oh my

#

That's quite a good thing

copper monolith
#

based

#

now germany pls switch on ur power plants to stop using russian farts immediately

zinc talon
limber wagon
#

Should be noted that Boats has been '3' in the facebook posts of the Ukrainian defence ministry (Where the Kyiv independent gets its numbers from I think) and that 'Special equipment' has also been a category there for the past 3-4 days or something.

copper monolith
#

boat

viral junco
#

5 UAVs

#

Wow

copper monolith
#

the only non deadly way for them to attempt at stopping supplies from NATO

viral junco
#

New shitbag in the ground

clear pebble
#

What's that, like the 5th

viral junco
#

Yes

copper monolith
#

god what is that thumbnail resolution

unknown.png
raven fossil
#

Hm, pixels

viral junco
#

It is indeed a 1980s screenshot

copper monolith
#

omg I decided to look at the comments

unknown.png
raven fossil
#

Excellent

split aurora
#

iirc since Jan 1st 1972 america has lost 4 generals

#

Russias lost 5 in under a month

split aurora
copper monolith
clear pebble
#

Those Russian generals are probably inexperienced Putin butt kissers or pay2win autocrat's kids

nocturne osprey
stark inlet
#

rip most ele-mech automotive parts

#

stuff like spark plugs, fuel pumps/injectors etc, nowadays pretty much all cars have some bosch parts

#

lmao also power tools and kitchen appliances

#

ofc theyre replacable but still bosch iirc is the worlds largest car part maker

scarlet crown
clear creek
#

And more then the afgan war

limber wagon
#

Bosch is Yuuuuuge, they make tonnes of stuff

limber wagon
#

So this happened yesterday https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1504940601334194176?t=LbnurvCeKeruHrDw3-9g3Q&s=19
https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1504940820918644737

Eric Berger (@SciGuySpace)

Three Russian cosmonauts just launched to the International Space Station on a Russian rocket, from Kazakhstan. The color scheme of their space attire as they came aboard the station is rather striking.

Likes

7580

Retweets

1482

Twitter ·
Katya Pavlushchenko (@katlinegrey)

Great to see such a warm welcome of the new crew on the ISS! #SoyuzMS21 Love their suits!💛💙

Likes

3715

Retweets

568

Twitter ·
#

Now sorry to crush your dreams, but I think this thread is likely a good explanation https://twitter.com/theACentauri/status/1504956223900336131?s=20&t=L0Pnc-G9nhhTh-3BBtzqEg

The Alpha Centauri (@theACentauri)

  1. Suits are personally tailored for every single cosmonaut by Roscosmos

  2. Roscosmos definitely knew about the suits (including their colors)

  3. The launch date for this crew in 18th of March. The day when russia 'celebrates' their annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

Likes

208

Twitter ·
copper monolith
#

boi

scarlet crown
copper monolith
viral junco
#

chances are these will be even more inexperienced as they're not anywhere near any wars

limber wagon
#

Lol, they added a function to check if the IP is from Russia or Belerus and then wiped files on the machine

copper monolith
#

L

limber wagon
#

While concerning that something like that is possible, its very funny

split aurora
#

We shouldn't be celebrating this.

#

This is a bad thing.

limber wagon
#

Oh I'm not. I said it was concerning. Specifically the wider implications

#

its just that when only looking at this instance, what was done, is kinda funny

split aurora
#

not only does this hurt innocent people, it also means people will distrust open source programs and online downloads

....and how do people get access to western media?

#

As the article says, this is equivalent to tesla putting code into cars that makes all Russians crash into lamposts

#

and hoping you catch an oligarch

#

Yeah this is fucked

#

especially since it was just added to an innocent java library

#

not anything to do with russia or the war

scarlet crown
#

Yeah this is just terrorism

#

I'd understand if it spread stop war messages to same computers

#

Wiping their data away is just petty

#

I get the point, but it's not something we needed

viral junco
#

i grow concerned with that

#

it could easily happen to us , so dont do that

scarlet crown
#

I wonder if it'd work if you used a vpn with russia set

scarlet crown
limber wagon
#

Nothing is really broken, its an intentional addition

split aurora
#

since it just goes by IP

split aurora
#

eg, instead of writing a full program for random, you use import the random library and ask for "new random number"

#

Meaning that any code that uses the library is infected

scarlet crown
#

f u c k

split aurora
#

wait, no, node ipc is a library interconnecter

#

meaning its part of dozens if not hundreds of libraries

#

and millions and millions of users

#

💀

copper monolith
#

ah yes, without the US, Ukraine would gladly accept the "absolutely minimal" demands that is giving away large swathes of land and giving up having the military entirely

unknown.png
scarlet crown
#

Ah yes, the usual "grrr, merica"

copper monolith
#

our imperialism isn't as evil, it's not even imperialism, just special friendship 😡

scarlet crown
#

call that an abusive relationship

scarlet crown
#

If he did, it'd probably be a trap

copper monolith
#

if he did, then people in the background would boo at him, and that's very terrifying 😨

scarlet crown
#

yep

copper monolith
#

what if it was children booing too? oh the horro

scarlet crown
#

I feel like if it ever legitimately happened, it'd be somewhere secret

#

Like unannounced

#

Where he'd try to bargain with Zelensky like a cheap thief that he is

#

Or would just stay his ground, without even listening to whatever Zelenskiy would tell him

#

lots of possibilities and very small chances

copper monolith
#

the definition of projecting Clueless

#

still no word if they'll ever give back the sats they were suppose to launch for a british company

#

but yeah esa is very crazy and unreliable 5Head

scarlet crown
#

go fuck yourself rogozin

#

Jeez they're actually fighting over sugar

copper monolith
#

oh my god

#

what a shitshow

#

"ivanovna petrovna, good luck!"
"nah!"

viral junco
#

what happened to that booming patriotism?

#

the ones they were all so proud of committing horrendous crimes for?

leaden grove
copper monolith
scarlet crown
scarlet crown
copper monolith
#

man...

leaden grove
#

Hold on

#

Okay, it works after all

#

"Bellingcat founder: Don’t let Putin’s disinformation distract from his war crimes"

buoyant sundial
#

It’s a pay to read article

viral junco
split aurora
viral junco
#

ah god

copper monolith
#

scroll up moar lol

#

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505198986751324169?s=20&t=Opoym0Dl29dUihhMh_jQLQ https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1505199116242100224?s=20&t=Opoym0Dl29dUihhMh_jQLQ

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Journalist: Russia mined commercial routes in Black Sea.

Andriy Klymenko, the chief editor of news site BlackSeaNews, said on March 19, citing his sources, that Russia had deployed the naval mines in the northwestern part of the Black Sea.

Likes

1674

Retweets

727

Twitter ·
The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

Meanwhile, Russia issued a warning to ships claiming that the mines have been deployed by Ukraine at its ports, and are now drifting.

Likes

962

Retweets

268

Twitter ·
split aurora
#

lmfao

viral junco
scarlet crown
#

https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/2156

Telegram
Ukraine NOW [English]

❗️Scam of the invaders: the Russians did not let the convoy with humanitarian aid to the residents of Kherson go through, Head of the Kherson Regional State Administration Gennady Laguta said.

14 trucks with food and medicine left Dnipro region for Kherson region. In particular, they were bringing insulin, which patients in the Kherson region n...

copper monolith
#

compared to Google Earth sat image from May 2020

unknown.png
scarlet crown
#

such is the result of "russian peace"

hushed magnet
#

The nazis were clearly hiding in the trees

split aurora
copper monolith
#

ah yes, the great, stress free, heroic liberators certainly need ciggies while they liberate Donbas from the nazis

leaden grove
split aurora
nocturne osprey
copper monolith
copper monolith
split aurora
copper monolith
#

russians filming their own war crimes, perfect

split aurora
#

afaik thats not a war crime

copper monolith
#

huh

split aurora
#

Unless its proven to be targeting civilians

#

Which would require proving that launcher in that video was targetting them

#

which.... isn't really possible

#

MLRS and Thermobaric weapons in and of themselves aren't illegal I believe

#

the coalition forces made use of thermobarics in the middle east

copper monolith
#

ah (the guardian article on thermobaric weapons)

unknown.png
split aurora
#

ye

#

Russia, the UK and USA have a fairly long history of using them

#

since the 80s

#

+terrorists have made use of them too

copper monolith
split aurora
#

It's.... quite hypocritical how western media has responded to thermobaric being used in ukraine

#

given the west made very liberal usage of them

unreal path
leaden grove
#

I‘d be slightly wary of this but if this is further confirmed it‘s a very troubling development https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1505258123434639360

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Mariupol council: Russian occupiers forcibly move thousands of Mariupol residents to Russia.

The civilians were allegedly taken to camps where Russians checked their phones and documents and then forcibly moved some of them to remote cities in Russia.

Likes

7247

Retweets

4632

Twitter ·
#

We‘ll have to wait for confirmation on this

split aurora
#

^

#

This is an extremely big claim

#

Imma wait for some more hard evidence on this

leaden grove
#

Yup

scarlet crown
#

what in the actual fuck

scarlet crown
# leaden grove I‘d be slightly wary of this but if this is further confirmed it‘s a very troubl...

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1610 it's here too

Telegram
Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

🤯 Mayor of Mariupol Vadym Boychenko said that the Russian occupiers were forcing people to leave Ukraine for Russia

Over the past week, several thousand Mariupol residents were transported there.

The captured Mariupol residents were taken to filtration camps, where people's phones and documents were checked.

After the inspection, some Mari...

#

fucking hell

leaden grove
#

Scary

#

I think we‘ll have to wait until we get some more verifiable reports from affected people, but this really doesn’t sound good

scarlet crown
#

this is more than just a war crime

#

this is just unspeakable

#

this is a post from Mariupol's mayor adviser

unknown.png
#

he states that "Russians truly decided to show nazis that they can do it again. It came back to ostarbeiters in full circle. It's true - yesterday a few thousands citizens of Mariupol were forcefully "evacuated" from the biggest shelter into Novoazovsk. Their documents were taken away in concentration camps, moved to Taganrog and then to economically depressed citites of Russia by train. They're given a paper that forces them to stay at a specific city for 2 years with an already assigned job"

#

the last part of the post is pretty much cursing and promises to return every ukrainian home once this is over

viral junco
#

i have some good news

#

the humble bundle has already reached 5 million in funds for charity

#

its only been just over 2 days, for context the itch.io one got 6 mil over a week

copper monolith
copper monolith
viral junco
scarlet crown
#

is this their "liberation", "denazification"?

#

the world has to hear more about this

copper monolith
#

appears so

viral junco
#

they wish to ethnically cleanse ukraine

#

its horrific

zinc talon
hushed magnet
#

always a great day to hear your parents laughing at boomer memes that are just "ukraine bad putin good" 👍

leaden grove
#

Oh welp

scarlet crown
zinc talon
scarlet crown
#

they're literally singing about the soviet union

#

on a war rally

#

right fucking now

#

Is that not enough red flags for the west

hushed magnet
#

tbf i dont think they need any more red flags

zinc talon
#

can't see flags if you close your eyes

copper monolith
copper monolith
# copper monolith https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1498389188047167502?s=20&t=MXbm5lpLJg_...

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1498376089646862344?s=20&t=MXbm5lpLJg_C8zEZnJO8pg

Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews)

Surreal spin on #Russia's state TV, where lawmakers and pundits claim that "Russia is anti-war, because Putin is trying to stop the war" and "Ukraine is led by warmongers, because they're refusing to capitulate."

Orwell and Goebbels would be jealous.

Likes

3052

Retweets

994

Twitter ·
hushed magnet
#

ah yes

#

ukraine is invading russia rn

leaden grove
tired scaffold
#

Why would Orwell be jealous...?

leaden grove
#

E. g. The Ministry of Peace

hushed magnet
#

poor defenceless russia is being forced to invade ukraine because of how strongly theyre defending, against the invasion

zinc talon
#

1984 if you wan't to look it up

scarlet crown
#

yeah that makes sense

leaden grove
#

Turned out they had written for RT previously

hushed magnet
#

there is no fucking way

leaden grove
#

Such a coincidence

tired scaffold
hushed magnet
zinc talon
leaden grove
zinc talon
leaden grove
#

Well

#

There are actually very good takes on this when it comes to generally reducing our dependence on fossil fuels

hushed magnet
scarlet crown
#

No idea what the theory is about, but the statement of Russia being anti-war, trying to stop the war is just straight up bullshit

leaden grove
#

Both the extreme far-right and the extreme far-left are starting to mirror each other’s rhetoric

#

And I don’t understand why so many American pundits try to make this about the US

hushed magnet
#

i mean, horseshoe theory is reductionist as hell

leaden grove
#

It is, it‘s just worth mentioning in this context

zinc talon
leaden grove
#

A lot of people don’t seem to realise that your enemy‘s enemy is not always your friend

zinc talon
split aurora
#

Many Americans are very self centric and nationalists

#

everything revolves around america

hushed magnet
#

if you take 2 war loving authoritarians that claim to be either far left or right, theyre gonna have similar war loving veiwpoints lmao

tired scaffold
#

what a fucking wild image

leaden grove
viral junco
#

that horseshoe diagram
i think that's an utterly insane thing

hushed magnet
#

ikr, fucking wild lmao

viral junco
#

like i'm a very shaky catholic yet i'm incredibly left wing

#

and the left are very much not anti vax

split aurora
#

Every catholic cannot care about the environment

hushed magnet
leaden grove
split aurora
#

yep

#

thats how american media treats every war

#

korea

#

vietnam

#

afghanistan

#

Libya

leaden grove
#

Yeah

split aurora
#

its never about the people of that country

hushed magnet
#

yeah pretty much

tired scaffold
#

and both world wars

split aurora
#

its about how it effects america

zinc talon
split aurora
#

the image is absolutely absurd

#

that reads like a bad shitpost

hushed magnet
#

its hilarious honestly

split aurora
#

true

zinc talon
split aurora
#

lmfao

zinc talon
#

pan-shrekism killed me though

azure plover
#

BASED‼️

hushed magnet
#

lmao

tired scaffold
#

no anarcho-monarchism

leaden grove
#

Lmao

split aurora
#

Yakub is the anarcho monarchist

tired scaffold
#

also I think this has gotten a little off-topic

zinc talon
hushed magnet
#

true

leaden grove
#

Okay, I found the name of the journalist I was referring to, it‘s Caitlin Johnson

scarlet crown
leaden grove
#

I know it’s important but I personally need more info to verify this because this is really an extraordinary fact if confirmed

split aurora
#

I'm not spreading it

#

till theres hard evidence

leaden grove
#

^

split aurora
#

This is an unbelievably heavy claim and thus requires a lot of evidence

scarlet crown
#

is your evidence considered a report from independent journalists?

split aurora
#

wheres that report

#

So far all I've seen is from ukranian regional govt officials

scarlet crown
#

I don't have one, I'm just asking generally

split aurora
#

with no sources with them

leaden grove
#

As far as I can tell all the reports are based on statements made by members of the city council

scarlet crown
#

guess we'll have to wait for guardian or fucking whatever

zinc talon
#

how can you not believe your own family?

unknown.png
hushed magnet
#

god thats fucking awful

copper monolith
#

yeah I've read of many people whose russian family members don't believe them, even when shown videos from the street, they're all just "oh dw they're only targeting military installations/ its the ukranian army bombing civilians"

split aurora
#

propaganda be wild

copper monolith
#

related https://twitter.com/RealMartinSmit/status/1500729682727436293?s=20&t=UKGEUkWcUmsy2VjYW5jtNg
"here you go, you fucking bitch relatives, your fucking russian peace(or world?). dear mum, how you fucking tell me we're not fucking (getting shelled? vid had a cut), here's my house, you see? you were here, you saw my house, here's you go, please look how we're fucking sitting in the basement because shit is fucked"

Mārtiņš Šmits (@RealMartinSmit)

Ethnic russian woman from #Ukraine addresses her brainwashed relatives in #Russia to show destruction caused by russian military.
#俄罗斯 #Україна  #warcrime
#Украйна  #Ukraina #乌克兰

▶ Play video
Twitter ·
hushed magnet
#

jesus... husk

copper monolith
split aurora
#

nice!

copper monolith
copper monolith
split aurora
#

lmao

scarlet crown
copper monolith
#

wonderful how they reveal their plans this way

copper monolith
scarlet crown
hushed magnet
#

"this is what we're gonna do, but it wont actually be us, we're gonna be framed"

scarlet crown
#

and of course they're blaming azov again

split aurora
#

Went to a nearby village/very small town today

#

local pub had exchanged the english flag for the ukraine one

#

o7

copper monolith
#

my half ukrainian aunt that lives in london messaged me earlier asking if my dad could help a family of refugees, like if he's got some work or could give directions of who could help, showed my dad but he just said he's always too tired after work cuz he does that 6 days a week. so I told her that, while also adding, in english in case my dad ever saw the convo, that he's deep in russian propaganda and would probably not be the kind of person to help someone that the russian media constantly berates

copper monolith
zinc talon
hushed magnet
zinc talon
hushed magnet
#

ive noticed a few ukraine flags in my town, which is really cool to see

#

nice to know theres support over here

scarlet crown
#

it's really cool to see

leaden grove
#

The only flags I‘ve seen here are the ones of the local football club which coincidentally uses what basically looks like an upside down Ukrainian flag

scarlet crown
#

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/1617

Telegram
Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine

❗️Marshall Plan No. 2: Poland talks about recovery plan for Ukraine

The Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki stated that it is necessary to prepare a plan for the reconstruction of Ukraine, which should be co-financed by the wealthiest European countries. He will raise this issue at the next European Council (24-25 March).

🔻 "Today's Uk...

copper monolith
#

👀

leaden grove
#

An example of the accounts I was talking about earlier…

IMG_9228.png
split aurora
#

fucking tankie

hushed magnet
#

how do you going from being anti fascist and anti war to being pro russia

hushed magnet
split aurora
#

you can be against american imperialism

#

AND

#

russian imperialism

#

AND

#

every other form of it

hushed magnet
#

exactly

#

its like they view it as pick your favourite type of imperialism

leaden grove
#

They basically deny Russian imperialism even exists just because they didn’t have any colonies in Africa 🤷‍♀️

split aurora
#

then alaska

#

then invading japan

leaden grove
#

shhhh

split aurora
#

poland

#

man i could half of the nations of the world song

leaden grove
#

Don’t forget the 19th century Russification policies of the Russian empire too

tired scaffold
#

And the 20thC Russification policies of the USSR

split aurora
#

:/

hushed magnet
#

wtf?

#

yeah good job helping ukraine there guys... wooo...

copper monolith
#

this shit would just make the people of Russia even more angry when their hearts are suppose to be won to make their dictator stop

split aurora
#

It's just racism

#

20 yr old Russian prodigy pianist canceled

#

like

#

this just helps russian propaganda

#

lmao

#

and fucks over a talented young person

#

:/

copper monolith
#

also wtf, town hall of a town in western ukraine, right next to Lviv, is on fire https://t.me/suspilnenews/8291

Telegram
СУСПІЛЬНЕ НОВИНИ

​​На Львівщині у місті Кам'янка-Бузька горить будівля ратуші. Зараз на місці події працюють рятувальники.

copper monolith
split aurora
#

Russia's fired the first of its trans-sonic missiles to ukraine today

#

they're probably whats hit the west of ukraine

#

trans-sonic missiles are only remarkable in that they're fast as fuck (so can't really be intercepted), and have the range to hit all of ukraine

copper monolith
#

also this is terrifying, there used to be a smol red line around Mariupol, now they've made a massive land bridge

unknown.png
copper monolith
split aurora
#

I doubt theres just been one

copper monolith
#

hm

#

then there was a fuckup if they only decided to bomb some random town hall in a small town, those hypersonic missiles must be expensive as fuck

#

the calm before the storm rtgameConcern

unknown.png
scarlet crown
#

more fertilizer

copper monolith
scarlet crown
#

im sorry, THEY will respond to "threats"?

#

like sanctions? that are already working full force?

#

and yet more to come?

#

where's the threat when what you're dealing with is suppression for your own miserable actions

#

Hurts my head man

copper monolith
scarlet crown
#

:)))

scarlet crown
#

constant comparisons to nazis, "where were you during 8 years of Donbas, you get what you deserve"

#

when you shatter all of these illusions, they still find shit to say

#

unbearable

copper monolith
nocturne osprey
zealous rapids
#

I know that Russia has invaded ukraine and it is considered what we call “war”. But has Russia physically declared war on ukraine?

#

I ask this because I see people saying that Russia has declared war on ukraine. And I’m not sure if something has changed from when I first checked in here

stark harness
#

I'm not sure

#

But Russia is really clinging onto calling it a "special military operation" in places like UNSC meetings so... probably not?

tired scaffold
#

But that doesn't make it not a war

stark harness
#

yup

#

the ICC has opened an investigation into war crimes in Ukraine so yeah

#

Putler and his braindead school of fish are calling it a "special military operation" but it's absolutely a war

zealous rapids
#

Ok. So basically officially they haven’t but it is a war

clear pebble
#

Pretty much

unreal path
#

so how close are we to getting to a month since the "especial military operation" or even the "peacekeeping mission" started

fierce arch
#

de facto a war

#

de jure not

unreal path
#

Legal Eagle has a good video on it

fierce arch
#

it has no meaning anymore

#

any special meaning that is

viral junco
leaden grove
#

To quote the ICRC: In practice and under customary law, a declaration of war is no longer necessary for a state of war to exist; it suffices for one of the parties to make its intentions clear by actually commencing hostilities. Similarly, a formal declaration of war is not necessary for the application of international humanitarian law

viral junco
#

Falklands wasn't a declared war but it was a war if that makes sense

copper monolith
# viral junco

my fav Belarusian post punk band CatJAM fun fact, they were in support of the anti-lukashenko protests that happened after the "election"