#the_ukraine_situation

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white locust
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Oh no

copper monolith
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this goebbrels seems quite drunk too

white locust
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This is bad

scarlet crown
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but it's nothing of worry, it's just propagandistic copium

white locust
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Hopefully

leaden grove
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"If you think that we‘ll stop in Ukraine, think 300 times. I remind you that Ukraine is only an intermediary step"

copper monolith
fierce arch
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ive never seen so much coping

leaden grove
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Ooh nice

scarlet crown
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they're deranged

leaden grove
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He‘s lost his two villas in Italy

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No wonder he‘s so upset

copper monolith
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upset and drunk

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crimea river

leaden grove
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"Five shots of vodka never hurt a man!"

white locust
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But that doesn't mean they are going to stop with Ukraine. It seems to me that Ukraine was always meant to be an intermediate step for them in their plans. An excuse for invading the rest of the world, essentially

leaden grove
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Yeah

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I think the rest of the world is taking it a bit too far, but their ambitions do extend to eastern and northeastern Europe

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Russian propaganda has not only spent the past eight years focusing on the Donbas, but also on Estonia etc.

white locust
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We just really need to hope that nukes and chemical weapons don't start being used

leaden grove
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And I think it’s very dangerous to think that Ukraine is just a one-time event

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I doubt nukes will be used

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Putin is a murderer but not suicidal

fierce arch
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chemical weapons would elicit an actual military responde

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and nukes are well nukes

leaden grove
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I think it all depends on how the negotiations in the coming days go

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If they go well, there might be a ceasefire

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If they don’t, they‘ll likely launch a renewed assault

white locust
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The thing is, are they really serious negotiations, or has Putin already decided the outcome (ie: "no we won't stop")

leaden grove
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That’s the thing

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Both Putin and Zelenskyy have signalled that the latest rounds of talks have been somewhat positive

icy ridge
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I- what kind of logic 😭

scarlet crown
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there is none

leaden grove
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But even if there is a ceasefire, Ukraine would likely demand some sort of external guarantees

leaden grove
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They still claim that so far they‘ve only been fighting "nationalists"

white locust
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Strange that the "neonazi" running the country is proudly Jewish

leaden grove
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It’s just stupid

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There’s no denying that Azov and other organisations are a thing, but Russian propaganda vastly exaggerates their role in Ukrainian politics and society

copper monolith
icy ridge
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Hmmm The Entirety of Opposition Parties are calling for the Canadian Government to close the skies of Ukraine

copper monolith
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aren't they tho?

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ah

copper monolith
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and sell the wine, and donate all the money to Ukraine's war effort

wicked panther
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and to think tucker carlson, a prominent member of fox news was saying that putin isnt all that bad, i hope he changes his tune but probably not

copper monolith
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30,000 roubles (about £213 at the current rate)

viral junco
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@leaden grove him saying ukraine is the beginning is openly saying we're going to do salami tactics

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And ofc, war

split aurora
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I mean its not a small fine like

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but I'm glad she avoided prison

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(30k rubles is equivalent to just over 2weeks average wages in russia)

leaden grove
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If this is left unchecked Putin will try again

viral junco
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I'm anti war, incredibly so

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However it seems that Ireland alongside other nations must ditch neutrality regardless because of this fucking jingoism

leaden grove
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Agreed

fierce arch
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this war has been better for nato and the eu moreso than russia lmao

leaden grove
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Indeed, Putin doesn’t seem impressed though

fierce arch
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georgia

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moldova

viral junco
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Racc I'm more than aware

leaden grove
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I think that what also needs to be done is a major reform of international organisations

viral junco
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However Moscow is more than confident now in openly threatening nuclear hell, threatening neutral states, threatening global food supplies

viral junco
leaden grove
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Uhuh

fierce arch
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i mean

copper monolith
leaden grove
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they’ve passed a single resolution, that‘s it

viral junco
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Lest we forget the shit off Irelands shores

fierce arch
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what the fuck is the un supposed to do lmao

leaden grove
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Call for a legally binding end to the war

copper monolith
fierce arch
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legally binding resolutions

viral junco
leaden grove
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The general assembly doesn’t

fierce arch
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and gues what

leaden grove
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Hm?

fierce arch
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guess who happens

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to be a security council member

leaden grove
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I‘m well aware that Russia has the right to veto any decision

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That‘s why I‘m all in favour of trying to strip that status off Russia

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And perhaps getting rid of vetos altogether

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It might very much legally possible to do that, but no one seems to be willing to try

split aurora
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...how?

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Also if you removed russia and china from the security council veto power

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a significant portion of the world would leave the UN

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and the UN would be reduced to the diplomatic arm of NATO

leaden grove
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Why would they leave the UN?

fierce arch
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iirc

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its enshrined in the un charter

leaden grove
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North Korea is a UN member

fierce arch
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The Security Council shall consist of fifteen Members of the United Nations. The Republic of China, France, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America shall be permanent members of the Security Council. The General Assembly shall elect ten other Members of the United Nations to be non-permanent members of the Security Council, due regard being specially paid, in the first instance to the contribution of Members of the United Nations to the maintenance of international peace and security and to the other purposes of the Organization, and also to equitable geographical distribution.

split aurora
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how would allies of china (the vast majority of the African continent) react

fierce arch
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china doesn't have that much power over africa

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their allies are very much dotted across the globe

split aurora
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belt and road means they have a lot of people friendly to them

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and they wouldn't want to risk snubbing china

fierce arch
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friendly =/= allies

split aurora
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fair

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eitherway, friends of China,who want to keep the massive Chinese investment

leaden grove
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China isn‘t too fond of the war either

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And I found it, it‘s the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 377 which could technically be invoked again

split aurora
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okay but china would be completely against removing russias veto

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because china knows basic geopolitics

leaden grove
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It’s worth a try

fierce arch
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would very much not be easy

split aurora
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tbf I wouldn't support trying to remove russia / russia+china veto

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both because its so likely to backfire

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and I don't like the idea of nato unchallenged in the security council, if only the 3 nato powers had veto's left

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removing everyones veto id rather have

fierce arch
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then

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the un security council is basically useless

split aurora
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I can't think of a way to have a useful UN

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without turning it into an extension of a single power block

fierce arch
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its not the un that's useless

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its just hard to be a neutral body

copper monolith
copper monolith
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what a crusty image that they used

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Ukrainian army siezed russian artillery position near Mykolaiv

azure plover
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jesus christ

copper monolith
viral junco
copper monolith
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was reported yes

viral junco
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I wonder if tucker will stop his shite after that

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Surely fox has to draw the line somewhere

limber wagon
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New sanctions are starting to get a bit full of holes

hollow hollow
copper monolith
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god damn fascists

stark inlet
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You see its obviously ukrainians dressed as russians executing other ukrainians

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/s ofc

fierce arch
stark inlet
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Not really a joke

silk iron
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it's more being facetious than anything

stark inlet
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Just some mental gymnastics the russian state tv will surely try to do

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Because theyll either ignore the vid or show it with the flipped narrative

copper monolith
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flashbacks to day 1 (or was it 2?) where someone recorded a bunch of russian soldiers dressing up as ukrainian, though I don't think anything came out of that

limber wagon
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Mykolaiv the 13th vs today. Big push back there the last few day

copper monolith
paper cedar
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Nice!

limber wagon
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Forces also seem to have been pushed back from Kharkiv according to a report from 2 hours ago.

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Though they seem to instead be moving eastwards towards 2 military zones

copper monolith
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oh thats what those map markings are

limber wagon
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ye, basically just anything military related where civilians might be restricted. Usually just bases and the likes. But Germany for example also has a large zone offshore for training

scarlet crown
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honestly Mykolaiv - Odesa's guardian angel

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great thanks to them for keeping our peace

limber wagon
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I'm a bit worried about how taking back Kherson, Melitapol and all those other villages is gonna go when it comes to that. We've already heard that they're not unwilling to use hospital patients as hostages, so who knows what will happen

scarlet crown
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Whatever happens, we will have to deal with it

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they might break our homes but they can't break our freedom

limber wagon
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I'm not talking about just homes. I'm talking about human shields

scarlet crown
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same with that, only time will show

limber wagon
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mhm

viral junco
scarlet crown
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hushed magnet
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what the fuck

paper cedar
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Did they play too much video games or something?

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Literally psychopaths

limber wagon
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Gotta love that russian narrative

copper monolith
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peepoSulk grr how dare they be so anti russian when all we're doing is committing genocide

viral junco
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gives me real imperial japan leaving the league of nations over manchuria vibes

copper monolith
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literally russia

copper monolith
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and thus the russian life expectancy falls to the level of the 1990s

viral junco
copper monolith
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smh

viral junco
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Yeah all non essential pharmaceutical and agricultural things are going

wicked panther
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I mean putins a bastard but a sick bloke who cant get his medicine is also sad

split aurora
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😬

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Medicines are one of the very essentials of life

copper monolith
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(Ivan Gren, but same type)

scarlet crown
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copper monolith
scarlet crown
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tired scaffold
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I went downstairs for a snack and found my mum watching Russian propaganda in the "vaccines are a tool of the new world order etc etc" telegram group she's in

hushed magnet
hushed magnet
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my parents are both just qanon nutjobs

viral junco
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That the insane person says thats too far

scarlet crown
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i can't even count how many things happened due to this war

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Switzerland broke neutrality after 500 years

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Kim Jong-un called Putin insane

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first results of civil bombing in Odesa region

hollow hollow
scarlet crown
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yep

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but it does further show how fucking absurd this war is

dark tide
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Apparently fighting outside Kyiv. Video likely recorded on Ukrainian helmet cam

tired scaffold
split aurora
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also the mirror is a poor source

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pretty crap bri'ish paper

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and the mirrors source is a twitter post

scarlet crown
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Didn't know that, i'll note it

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another batch of starlink coming in

split aurora
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PACE...?

silk iron
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what u talkin bout m8 i love me daily mirror

scarlet crown
split aurora
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ah

scarlet crown
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copper monolith
split aurora
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“@CovertShores @detresfa_ @NavyLookout @oryxspioenkop @pmakela1 @KaptainLOMA @TayfunOzberk @samlagrone @hoje_no @CavasShips @WhereisRussia They laid sea mines to fight an enemy which didn't even have a navy and now they have to carefully sail towards their target with a mine sweeper because they may hit their own mines

Peak incompetence right t...

scarlet crown
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classic

copper monolith
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xd

hushed magnet
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why are news sites always a pain to use

fierce arch
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???????

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zelensky

unreal path
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United Nations Secretary-General, António Guterres, briefs journalists on Ukraine.

Speaking to journalists in New York, the UN Secretary-General, António Guterres, said on Monday that Ukraine is on fire, with the country being decimated before the eyes of the world.

"The impact on civilians is reaching terrifying proportions. Countless innocen...

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fierce arch
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based

unreal path
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AP NEWS

NEW YORK (AP) — A veteran videographer and a 24-year-old Ukrainian journalist working for Fox News were both killed when their vehicle came under fire outside of Kyiv, the network said on Tuesday. Pierre Zakrzewski, 55, and Oleksandra “Sasha” Kuvshynova were traveling Monday in Horenka with Fox News reporter Benjamin Hall, who remains hospitaliz...

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even tho I don't like fox news this is just horrible sadnewsbolb

zinc belfry
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yeah, we have i think

clear pebble
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Have what?

zinc belfry
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seen the post

icy ridge
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Getting a bit concerned

paper cedar
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If at this point he won't join NATO and war ends then what's the point of this war then

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If he will just call it off and never join NATO so that Russia stops invading then pretty much Russia wins

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And the war at this point would be pretty much pointless

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Because this could have been all evaded if he said that he won't join NATO earlier

limber wagon
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Quick question, who invaded who and thereby started this war?

paper cedar
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Well Russia did

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Because Ukraine wanted to join NATO

limber wagon
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So how would that be pointless? if thats whats gonna happen (and keep in mind that this is a rumour and we shouldn't speculate too hard about it quite yet), then Russia would have achieved one of its points

paper cedar
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I mean for Russia it isn't pointless, I'm more talking about Ukraine
Their point is that they want to join NATO and if they give that up then for Ukraine the war pretty much could have been avoided if done earlier
That's why in my opinion this is a bad thing if they already got as far as killing each other maybe it's just better to succeed on still having a chance to join NATO

limber wagon
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But Ukraine didnt start this war

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Thats like some domestic abuser type logic "I wouldn't have to hit her if she had listened to me"

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And again rumour

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The one talking about ''demilitarisation' is basically just Russia

limber wagon
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And look how that backfired on Russia

limber wagon
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But you were talking about the joining NATO thing. not in the abstract sense

paper cedar
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Sorry if like I said stuff wrong as I'm absolutely tired rn, had worst night ever

limber wagon
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Fair enough

paper cedar
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I have a feeling my logic rn is quite bad

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I read my text again above and it doesn't even make sense to me anymore

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Ima go take a nap in the bus before I arrive at internship, might be smart

limber wagon
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Understandable, have a good nap

paper cedar
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Nvm my bus just arrived there

limber wagon
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oof

split aurora
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Ukraine promising not to join NATO doesn't mean this wars won for russia

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Russia was, at least, intending to seize a significant portion of ukraine

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more likely a full annexation

limber wagon
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I think that's more their full goal. A plan like this will most likely have various goals, so that things can be adjusted and the politicians at home can still claim "see, we did what we wanted to do" even if they didn't. In this case that might be fully Annexing Ukraine, splitting it off in to various puppet states, getting Ukraine to not join NATO, creating or annexing the LPR and RPR.

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not joining NATo is definitely a goal of Russia, even if thats not all they set out to do

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Though again, with all the massive sanctions and how much of an utter failure this invasion has been, I don't think it could still be called a win in most senses.

viral junco
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The ukranians need to have a security against russia

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However should they win the war hopefully it'll mean they needn't one

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But I fear that this will lead to some other war when Russia bulks the military up, like chechnya

limber wagon
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EU has a mutual defence clause

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So if that goes through quick enough

viral junco
limber wagon
viral junco
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As in not stopping this

limber wagon
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ah, I see

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Yeah, dunno

viral junco
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Putin's whole strategy is to bleed ukraine dry, by throwing men and expensive equipment at them

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Yet they're unfamiliar with the terrain, and the Russians have already seen what an army can do when their home, everything they love is at stake

limber wagon
viral junco
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Oh I mean now it's just bleed ukraine

limber wagon
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Russia has a lot of material and troops, but their logistics are so shit they're barely able to make progress

viral junco
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Mhm

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They're fighting an enemy who's mother tongue is so similar to theirs that they can almost perfectly understand their comms

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Comms which rely on 3 and 4g, which don't work in areas they destroy the towers for

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Comms which also are open ended, Ukrainians know what wave lengths to look for

limber wagon
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Truly a throwback to early cold war era technology

viral junco
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They have an incredibly demoralised force, ones who either desert, surrender, or become walking target practise

viral junco
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Take Syria for instance

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The pro democracy side who they were fighting against hadn't much money at all, but the Russians and al-assad's men had two governments worth of funding, so their thought process was likely "why bother on comms stuff now?"

limber wagon
viral junco
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Of course

limber wagon
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So its just a case of not upgrading technology.

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But I think this could also be a case of corruption.

copper monolith
limber wagon
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Get funding to upgrade communication systems and then pocket most of it after doing as little as possible

limber wagon
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Lots of material losses yesterday

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Dunno what that means, probably stuff like that bridging vehicle and stuff like that

viral junco
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Particularly bad day for artys

limber wagon
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And vehicles and anti aircraft and MLRS and planes as well

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also APC's

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So thats pretty good

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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Another day another hell for occupants, good morning

viral junco
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Hello ein

limber wagon
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Mornin

split aurora
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I think wrt NATO as well

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the question is

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after this war is over

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will nato let ukraine in

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I could see a very real possibility they wouldn't, and zelensky might too

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hence hes willing to offer no nato as a bargaining chip

limber wagon
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Gl with this russia

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at most they would get a bunch of servers

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But how can you nationalise a software company like that.

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You need the main company to have access to so much stuff that its basically useless if you dont have that

scarlet crown
scarlet crown
split aurora
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lmao

scarlet crown
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split aurora
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something about a senate of war criminals declaring vlad a war criminal is amusing to me

split aurora
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cloudfare continues to operate in ukraine and Russia, but have set their servers to brick themselves if any attempt to disconnect them from the worldwide grid or to seize them is made

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soooo all you get then is a room of scrap metal

limber wagon
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lmao, I love that strategy

scarlet crown
nocturne osprey
scarlet crown
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iconic

limber wagon
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oops, wrong link, fixed now

clear creek
limber wagon
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I doubt its as effective as it was then, but it certainly is able to hinder vehicles and logistics for a bit

limber wagon
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2016 btw if you didnt notice

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But I saw this on twitter and it was kinda funny

copper monolith
copper monolith
scarlet crown
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wow, almost like if they retreat, they'll prove wrong their entire history!

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who would've thought!

copper monolith
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BORYSPIL, KYIV OBLAST – About a hundred people gathered in a city memorial park to say their last goodbyes to an outstanding combat commander, colonel Valeriy Gudz, who had been killed in a battle near Russian-occupied Luhansk on March 12. Gudz, 51, had defended Ukraine from Russia’s army since the […]

copper monolith
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3207 vehicles managed to evacuate from Mariupol to Zaporozhiye overnight 🙏 https://twitter.com/SputnikATO/status/1504015610929418241?s=20&t=6jMiYtefE9lv4S0taT6n3Q

За ночь из Мариуполя в Запорожье эвакуировались более 3 тысяч человек

Об этом заявил глава Запорожской ОГА Старух. "Ко второму часу ночи 3207 автомобилей из Мариуполя приехали в Запорожье. Мы уже приняли и расселили более 3000 человек, из них 772 ребенка". https://t.co/1J659y6IJA

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fascists kidnap 6 employees of Bucha's city council (one of Kyiv's satellite towns) https://t.me/chanel24/29736

copper monolith
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Reuploaded from the official telegram channel of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi.

Video Description:
"We are fighting for our lives. We are fighting for our lives against missiles, bombs, artillery, tanks, mortars and everything else that Russian troops are using to destroy us. Everything else that Russia is destroying itself with...

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Reuploaded from the official telegram channel of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi.

Video Description:
"I invite all friends of Ukraine to visit Kyiv. It can be dangerous here. Because our sky is not yet closed to Russian missiles and planes. The decision to strengthen our arsenal in the air has not yet been made. We have not receiv...

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scarlet crown
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🙏

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from other news, Kadyrov and his dogs are trying to find and neutralize Stepan Bandera

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(he was a nationalist leader back in 20th century)

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((the guy is fucking dead and they're trying their best to find him))

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these fuckers won't even leave kids alone

split aurora
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there's.... no easier terrain

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in all of europe

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bar maybe the great northern plane from benelux to poland

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to fight in

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ukraine is just flat fields

lilac sparrow
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Flat farmland during spring, perhaps the worst place for vehicles

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When all that snow melts and when it rains, it seeps into that upper layer, vehicles will get stuck

scarlet crown
split aurora
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Russia didn't really have any requirement to move in during spring, that seems a massive tactical fuckup

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and like, assuming the ground is reasonably firm, farmland is infinitely better then say, hills and mountains

lilac sparrow
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When it is firm yea

split aurora
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Fuck knows why they decided to attack just as the thaw was starting

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then combine their woefully undertraining troops not having the skills to manage mud

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imma repost this, good thread from a veterans on the matter

scarlet crown
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I do believe they got too involved with their lies and just thought they'd go in and take everything, 20 minute adventure style

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since so far every pow believed that they'd be welcome here

split aurora
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rather then just "uhoh tank slipped guess we surrender now"

lilac sparrow
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It’s not armor that gets stuck they easily, it’s the logistics and the other vehicles

split aurora
lilac sparrow
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Hell it’s even the us army that gets stuck

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It doesn’t even take much to get a vehicle stuck

split aurora
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yes

lilac sparrow
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Just a foot and a half of mud

split aurora
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where russias fucking up, is they don't have the training and ability to get vehicles unstuck

scarlet crown
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it just further shows how untrained the troops are

hollow hollow
lilac sparrow
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Nah, getting stuck is just part of the course, I’ve seen sergeants and staff sergeants who are labeled the master driver get stuck, and one where we had to get a hemmt to get them unstuck

split aurora
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yes

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nobody is saying

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it isn't normal

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thats my entire point my friend

lilac sparrow
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Yea I’m agreeing with you there

copper monolith
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scarlet crown
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limber wagon
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This means that the Ukrainian grid just got a lot more flexible since it can now rely on energy imports

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Its a big concern when a good chunk of your power generation is offline

silk iron
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When it comes to talking about the Russian difficulties in advancing though the muddy spring season- Note also the Kyiv reservoir was opened to flood the lands north of Kyiv turning it into marsh.

scarlet crown
limber wagon
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So with now being able to import from the EU without complicated phase syncing hardware should be helpful

scarlet crown
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Russian flag lowered at the Council of Europe

silk iron
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Note also pushing towards Odessa from Kherson the Russians have to push through the delta of Pivdennyi Buh River OR take Mykolaiv, which is easier said than done considering the Pivdennyi Buh River makes Mykolaiv very difficult to surround

scarlet crown
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there is no way they'll push to Odesa

limber wagon
scarlet crown
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we already took down two planes here in Odesa today

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and their goddamn lead ship with a sapper trail

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just ridiculous

copper monolith
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bless odesa

limber wagon
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Also looked in to it some more, its apparently on a trial basis for now. But I cant fid any details on that

copper monolith
# copper monolith fascists kidnap 6 employees of Bucha's city council (one of Kyiv's satellite tow...

⚡️Russian occupiers release 6 people captured the day before in Bucha.

The six people, Bucha City Council staff and volunteers, were captured on the evening of March 15 when they were helping the residents flee the city under fire.

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copper monolith
scarlet crown
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yeah, they're testing the ground, just like I said, but are facing losses

nocturne osprey
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🧵

limber wagon
haughty yew
copper monolith
# limber wagon

He said Western countries wanted to turn Russia into a “weak dependent country; violate its territorial integrity; to dismember Russia in a way that suits them”.
literally projecting

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would Zelenskyy really accept this, and let Russia keep Donbass and Crimea

split aurora
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we'll have to wait and see

scarlet crown
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it'd be ideal to fully reject their deal and just wipe them out of land while their country falls from sanctions

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but who knows, we'll have to see how this goes

scarlet crown
limber wagon
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Big boom

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Jesus, 43 attacks.

nocturne osprey
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copper monolith
copper monolith
limber wagon
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I think people are taking this a bit too far.

hushed magnet
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thats an insane leap wtf?

icy ridge
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How is Kyiv doing today?

limber wagon
hollow hollow
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i love the smell of burning terrorist vehicles, smells like victory! https://youtu.be/StRlztkfYsU

The Russo-Ukrainian war started on the early mornings of 24th feb, with Russian airstrikes on airports and military bases all around Ukraine. Today Ukraine is operating missions on retaking and damaging the airports that Russia have Occupied!
NO known Casualties. ( Unconfirmed )

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dark tide
split aurora
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depends what "neutral" means

dark tide
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If “neutral” simply means not in NATO or Russias sphere its okay

split aurora
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in the past russia used "neutral" to mean "puppet state"

dark tide
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As long as the US and EU protection is still a part of the deal

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True about the puppet thing, but the deal doesn’t seem to say anything about a government change

limber wagon
split aurora
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ye

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or desperate

limber wagon
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That just means they'll invade in half a decade with another flimsy ass excuse

dark tide
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If the US and EU can commit to the defense aspect then it’s a decent deal. If not, it will set Russia up for another attack later

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Cause I really don't think Ukraine can just bide time until Russia's economy collapses tbh

hollow hollow
dark tide
hollow hollow
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it won’t happen but it should happen

split aurora
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in what way is russia "winning"

hollow hollow
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yeah at best for russia it’s a stalemate

split aurora
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Occupying others territory does not equal winning

dark tide
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Simply in the land taken. Yes its been very costly for them, but UKR has always been on the defensive

hollow hollow
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at worst they’re getting fucking owned

split aurora
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lmfao

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if you gain 1 metre of land

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and lose 1 million men

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is that "winning"

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military doctrine comes down to more then land taken

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this isnt hoi4

dark tide
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That was WW1 for the Entente

split aurora
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yes

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and neither side won militarily

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the entente won due to economic blockade on germany

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which is probsbaly how ukraine will win here

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lmao

hollow hollow
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in a war like this, the attacker loses by not winning and the defender wins by not losing. ru is not winning and ukr is not losing

split aurora
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Russia occupying ukranian land, while yes, is an advantage for them, doesnt nullify their huge military loss / collapsing economy / internal issues

viral junco
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One can't compare ww1 to this, one is trench warfare, this is modern warfare

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The Russians, while gaining ground, it is at such a slow pace it's harming them

viral junco
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And the resources they have are drying up faster than rain in the sahara

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Plus that's before even mentioning having to keep ukraine

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One would need to completely take over every single job there to ensure no money is made to fund arms

scarlet crown
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Also ukrainian forces are long past just defence, we're already counterattacking on some fronts

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Firing them with their own fucking tech lmao

split aurora
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The farmers used to grow cocaine, which the taliban taxed
When we gave them wheat to grow, they sold the fertiliser to the taliban for bombs
When we denied them wheat, they joined the taliban

viral junco
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Also also, the Americans gained ground in Vietnam but they lost
The Americans gained ground in Afghanistan but they lost
Etc etc

hollow hollow
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it doesn’t matter how many people ru kills or how much land they hold, if they can’t complete their objectives they’re losing

viral junco
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Having your army beg for food and scavenge like dogs in the street isn't what one could classify even remotely as a "win"

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Or getting an upper hand

hollow hollow
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for example: the us in vietnam killed a lot more people than they lost themselves, but it didn’t matter in the end because they couldn’t conplete their objectives

viral junco
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The mass demoralisation is completely hammering the Russian troops

clear creek
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Any major developments today?

scarlet crown
viral junco
split aurora
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afaik

viral junco
split aurora
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though ive not been keeping up much

viral junco
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Euro electric grid is up for ukraine

scarlet crown
split aurora
clear creek
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Ukrain will go down in history as Putins viatnam just like spain was napoleons viatnam
I dous not mather if he wins ore not anymore

scarlet crown
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odd statement

viral junco
clear creek
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Keep giving them hell lads

scarlet crown
clear creek
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But arned the vihicles forced to move to russia

scarlet crown
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clear creek
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No

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Plz tell me that didend happen

scarlet crown
scarlet crown
clear creek
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I

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Just

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What is he even getting out of bombing a theather

split aurora
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fear

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fear is the goal

viral junco
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They want to break Ukraines spirit, that the war weariness would make them submit to the army

clear creek
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I am 100% convinced the Putin is not dying of natural couses

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Somone is putting a bullet into that bowling ball he cals a head

scarlet crown
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clear creek
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Why was Putin given controll of Russia if somone anyone else got to it first it may have become a friendly nation in the second cold war but now it has turned itself into china's bitch

split aurora
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what

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he got control because he won the election

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lmao

scarlet crown
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So about that one: turns out he was never there to begin with. Ukrainian mobile networks did not spot a connection from both his phones, and once our services contacted him as one of the propagandist channels and sent him a link, they fished his geolocation, which was, surprise surprise, in Russia. Fuck you, Ramzan.

clear creek
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Btw my sister is thinking about becoming a study and intergration buddy for Ukranian students

scarlet crown
clear creek
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So ein if it ever coms to it you may find a place here in Belgium

split aurora
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I mean, no, its not that simple ein

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elections in russia haven't been free and fair for over a decade

copper monolith
copper monolith
scarlet crown
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Mykhailo Podolyak states, that what Financial Times had posted is nothing more than Russia's requests. Ukraine has own, the only requests we agree upon is ceasing fire, retreat of russian troops and a guarantee of safety from certain countries

scarlet crown
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ukranians special operations are a lot more successful

scarlet crown
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Because when we say special operation, we mean special operation

copper monolith
split aurora
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😔

copper monolith
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god damn savages

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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always fucking meant

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barbarians

split aurora
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well those look effective

clear creek
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Cuz if it is lets GOOOOOO

split aurora
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wew

scarlet crown
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https://t.me/UkrainaOnlline/22875 this week, US will finally deliver the 1bil support, including: 800 air-defence tech, 9k anti-tank complexes and around 20mil of ammunition

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oh you

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you

split aurora
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:p

scarlet crown
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alright

scarlet crown
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the equality of based

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copper monolith
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when Putin falls, Russia's taxpayer money will finally be used for something good, rather than going to fund some oligarch's mansion in a western country

stark harness
scarlet crown
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oh don't you know????? they they uhh huh they had NAZIS in them yes!?!/111

copper monolith
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but u see, the neo-nazi battalion base of Azov was there 5Head

scarlet crown
split aurora
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man azov has a lot of bases

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every other building

copper monolith
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found the biggest nazi base post ww2

hushed magnet
stark harness
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where the fuck did the Nazi bs come from like bruhhh

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Azov?

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do they think all of Ukraine is just Azov

scarlet crown
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yeah they've got that reputation

scarlet crown
stark harness
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bruh

copper monolith
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azov are a neo-nazi group yeah, but they're a tiny fraction of the ukranian national guard

stark harness
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mhm

copper monolith
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but russia likes to say that it's the entirety of ukrainian military and government

scarlet crown
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they just take one thing and apply it to everything

hushed magnet
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they have more power than they should, but like

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its just an excuse for invasion

stark harness
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I will admit I find it a bit peculiar that this extremist group is regarded an official branch of the national guard

split aurora
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the power then should have is 0, every azov member should be investigated and extremists imprisoned

hushed magnet
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agreed

split aurora
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but yeah, its an excuse to invade

stark harness
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looking forward to seeing Putin tried in the International Criminal Court

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alongside the war criminals shooting civilians for fun

scarlet crown
hushed magnet
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whether theres an extremist problem or not doesnt matter to russia except that they can twist it into an excuse to commit war crimes on civillians

scarlet crown
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they've been preparing for war since 2014

split aurora
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Ukraines attitude towards avoz in the last 8years has been, frankly, disgusting

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its not a "solve that eventually", it should have been solved 8 years ago, and should be an urgent priority as soon as the war concludes

tired scaffold
split aurora
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^

hushed magnet
copper monolith
hushed magnet
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a quarter of them are children, jesus

split aurora
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biggest hit to the russian military yet

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minus 3 whole swords

scarlet crown
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tbh i'd be upset

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must be some cool swords

hushed magnet
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the queen singlehandedly disarming russia

scarlet crown
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https://t.me/UkrainaOnlline/22881 Zelensky's phonecall with now freed mayor of Melitopol. No subtitles, but it's mainly the mayor thanking him and our military for not leaving him behind and that he'll get to his duty asap

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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viral junco
scarlet crown
copper monolith
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getting help from a slightly less insane dictator

viral junco
copper monolith
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based

nocturne osprey
scarlet crown
copper monolith
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based

clear creek
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Where aproching the 4th week arned we

copper monolith
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3rd week jsut started

clear creek
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Woops

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Wassend the russian plans to win around now

unreal path
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ablobwave bye-bye Russia

unreal path
split aurora
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worst tweet of the day

copper monolith
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wtf is this take

split aurora
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"oh yeah i know theres literally bombings and fights all round you, but can't you show the time to pop down the dry cleaners, get a nice pressed shirt?"

copper monolith
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finna look dapper on cam while my country is being disfigured by the most brutal invading force since WW2 😎

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holy fuck that ratio

viral junco
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roughly 7.5k ukranian refugees have come to Ireland, with more to come in the coming days

copper monolith
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kremlin psyops

limber wagon
split aurora
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war criminal is angry that a war criminal called him a war criminal

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lmao

copper monolith
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pot calling kettle black (if that's the right expression)

viral junco
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yes it is

split aurora
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I've... not heard that expression before!

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New one for me 😌

viral junco
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it's common here

silk iron
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What are the odds for meaningful progress on peace negotiations atm?

stark inlet
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Heres the vid

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Jesus they had around 10 days to make a deepfake and thats the best they got

viral junco
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that doesnt even sound like him

stark inlet
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sent it to my 60yo mom that barely knows how to google stuff

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even she was sure its fake lmao

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You know its bad when she doesnt fall for it

copper monolith
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lmao

scarlet crown
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who would even believe in this

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his face is off, the shirt is wrong

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the way he speaks

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who in the world

viral junco
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open room but it sounds like a tin can

scarlet crown
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they had all the time in the world to put as much effort as possible and they just try to spread THAT?

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pathetic

split aurora
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just driving their truck along, see a russian vehicle, stop, fire rocket, roll on

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shows what russias gonna face if they intend to try and occupy

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russian soldiers looked fine, but they lost their truck

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I hope Ukrainians learn the lessons Syrians had to against Russia fast. Never reveal the locations of shelters for women and children, field clinics or breadlines. Russia will target them first. Don’t reveal the locations to the UN. Russia will access them, and target them first.

scarlet crown
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Yeah might be a bit too late

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One of the refugees told about people hiding in Mariupols theatre like an hour before it got bombed

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It also had "children" laid out before it

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In hopes to not get bombed ig? Pretty stupid move, but does not deny the fact that they still rocketed a fucking shelter

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Russian media even confirms that yes, there were in fact civilians, but under guard of Azov, thus why they shot it down

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but come the fuck on, they're still civilians

scarlet crown
split aurora
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yeaaah

scarlet crown
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Still a great fucking shame

split aurora
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against a foe like this, you gotta keep the areas not to target hidden

scarlet crown
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Further goes to show that they're here to eradicate us as whole

copper monolith
viral junco
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the sooner putin's henchmen get put in the hague the better

lilac sparrow
split aurora
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as hitting them is a war crime

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look at medics

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they wear clearly marked clothes, not camo

viral junco
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sadly some armies completely disregard that

split aurora
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for the reason that most people dont do war crimes

scarlet crown
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But when your enemy is fucking Russia

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Better not to

viral junco
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see japan in ww2 for medics and such, and russia in thsi

split aurora
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sadly you get opponents like russia

scarlet crown
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because surprise surprise, they don't care about rules

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And won't care now that they're kicked out from PACE

lilac sparrow
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Why do you think we use armored troop carriers for medical vehicles

split aurora
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yes but APCs with a big red cross on them

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marking them as non-combatants

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you dont hide medics with soldiers

lilac sparrow
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And out medivac helicopters are equipped with double the flares and chaf

split aurora
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you protect non-targets, in most wars declaring their location is the best possible way of protecting them

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sadly russia isnt most enemies

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and they see non-combatants as juicy targets

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that cannot fight back

fierce arch
lilac sparrow
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But it’s annoying that neither side of this conflict cares at all about opsec

split aurora
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....they do

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showing medical vehicles is the safest practice in almost all wars

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as is declaring civilian zones

fierce arch
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almost all wars

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lmfao

split aurora
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yes but

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you have to

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known this isnt

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a normal war

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before you can act it

fierce arch
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OPSEC techniques were developed before the age of the internet

split aurora
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I think its reasonable to go into a war not assuming your enemy will gun down civilians in the thousands

scarlet crown
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By all norms, yes

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If it's a war

split aurora
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but now, you have to change tune

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as you realise thats not the case

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and thats what ukraine and ukranians are starting to do

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ukranian opsec has been pretty good by what i can see

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infinitely better then russia

lilac sparrow
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How many Ukrainian soldiers do you think have their phones on them

scarlet crown
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Here, I can hardly say that it's war anymore, it just looks like genocide, just take all the bombed schools, hospitals, refugee shelters as an example, even Mariupol itself

split aurora
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So I have no idea

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genuinely, not a clue, and I'm not gonna pluck a number

lilac sparrow
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An estimate, news does seem to spread quite quickly so id say maybe 10% atleast

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A convoy sets out and the next thing we hear is that it was ambushed or that is was destroyed, who is sending these stories?

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If it’s the COC then I can understand, platoon relays information to unit, unit to press

split aurora
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10% for an army full of volunteers and reservists seems pretty good to me

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especially since I'm doubtful russia has the technical ability to do much with it

lilac sparrow
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It is extremely good yea

split aurora
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given the state of their cyber warfare thus far

lilac sparrow
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But that is only from what I know

split aurora
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Russias reporting the deaths of generals on unencrypted SMS

fierce arch
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radios?

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yes

split aurora
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People intercepted information going to the russian fleet in odessa last night

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sent in morse code over analogue radio

fierce arch
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whered you hear this from

lilac sparrow
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They would be able to hear them even with the highest tech, he’ll the taliban and isis could listen to US radio because we sold them radios when they were fighting soviets

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And it doesn’t help that they speak similar languages

fierce arch
split aurora
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yes but why are they communicating vital info on unencrypted mediums

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2 seconds racc

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i thought that article had it but it was not in there

molten tartan
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Evening

lilac sparrow
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What type of information were they transmitting?

molten tartan
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How you holding up ein?

scarlet crown
split aurora
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Amateur radio operators have found sensitive messages are being sent unencrypted, after a Federal Security Service (FSB) field officer used an insecure line to communicate the death of a general back to Russia.

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Phone call, not sms*

fierce arch
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thats

lilac sparrow
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It’s a very large difference between Farsi and English vs Russian and Ukrainian though

fierce arch
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-.-

split aurora
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Russia blew up the 3G/4G masts to use their encypted ERA messaging system

scarlet crown
split aurora
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soooo one of the soldiers looted a local sim card

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`Christo Grozev, the executive director of investigative journalism group Bellingcat, said the FSB officer told his boss, based in the Russian city of Tula, that he had “lost all secure communications”.

Mr Grozev added: “Thus the phone call using a local sim card. Thus the intercept.”`

scarlet crown
fierce arch
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Major General Vitaly Gerasimov was killed in fighting near Kharkiv, according to the Ukrainian military intelligence agency – although the death has not been independently confirmed.

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although the death has not been independently confirmed.

split aurora
fierce arch
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where????

split aurora
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Ah, its not been "independently" confirmed, but it was confirmed by the Ukranian Govt

fierce arch
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oh my god

scarlet crown
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another scum off the list

split aurora
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And theres been no evidence of him being alive in the last 9days

fierce arch
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-.-

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please make distinctions

split aurora
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yes apologies

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my bad

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I thought he had been independently and should have checked before stating

scarlet crown
split aurora
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aight imma head off before my tired ass makes more of a fool of myself

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cya later friends

lilac sparrow
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Tchiao

nocturne osprey
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gnight

scarlet crown
lilac sparrow
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I have no doubt in Ukraine victory, if the country wins quickly that’s good, but it could easily turn into a slog where the sons and daughters of Ukraine will have to fight the sons of Russia

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That’s an ending I don’t want to see

fierce arch
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urban combat is horrifying

scarlet crown
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But it's hard considering how the main country is in economical hell

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Pretty much everyone left them, even pharmacies

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Facing default by defacto

lilac sparrow
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Well even if their plan of killing the head and replacing it with a pro Russian government goes through, it has already lost all support from the people, this will become their version of our Afghanistan

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Cause I remember Putin saying something along the lines of putting The leader of Belarus in charge of Ukraine

scarlet crown
fierce arch
scarlet crown
fierce arch
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thats all good

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until your soldiers get replaced

lilac sparrow
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You need people, because the people will eventually become the military, and 20 years down the line when the moral in the army has become nothing and the Ukrainian patriots become just as strong, when Russia finally pulls out, Ukraine will become independent again

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It happened in Afghanistan it will happen in Ukraine

scarlet crown
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Yanukovich is basically a pro-kremlin pig who cut us off joining EU at the very last moment

viral junco
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Not a single soul will accept Mr golden toilet back

scarlet crown
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you know the rest

lilac sparrow
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Yea, and 20 years down the line the sergeants of the Russian army are going doing their training of the “new Ukraine army” thry are going to constantly send up “all is good, training is progressing well” just so their command team can check off boxes for their good boy points, then when Russia thinks that the army can hold its own against the “rebels” (as in the original Ukrainian military hiding in some corner of the country) they will pull their troops out of Ukraine, and watch as their underequip, undertrained army surrenders to the rebels

scarlet crown
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man you really went deep into this hypothetical

lilac sparrow
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It happened already, that’s why

scarlet crown
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ah

lilac sparrow
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Oh, I forgot 4billion dollars of equipment will be left behind

scarlet crown
lilac sparrow
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Yea, I absolutely love seeing that

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I bet we are more than willing to buy all of it, tearing it up, learning how to easily defeat it

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Then again, I think we may have already done that

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I know we did it back in the 90s when we stole an entire Russian helicopter from chad

molten tartan
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I've heard about the Chad Libyan war before and I've always been really curious

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I should do some research

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see you in 5 hours

lilac sparrow
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essentially, a russian built attack/troop helicopter goes down and we send our Special operations people to go steal it, they do it in the dead of night and without anyone noticing

copper monolith
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another bozo down

scarlet crown
unreal path
icy ridge
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What are the consequences if Russia refuses to comply?

woven merlin
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nothing except more global anger i suppose. rulings are binding but cannot be enforced

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the description of the video gives a pretty good summary

limber wagon
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This is so fucked

copper monolith
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And Putin's mad the pot is calling him a war criminal

copper monolith
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⚡️The missile that hit Russian-controlled Donetsk on March 14, killing 20 people, was shot from the Russian-held territory in Ukraine, according to an investigation by Ruslan Leviev, the founder of investigative outlet Conflict Intelligence Team.

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Russia had previously claimed the missile was Ukrainian, while Leviev says it is a false-flag operation by Russia to accuse Ukraine of war crimes.

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Kinda late with the false flags, russia, u were suppose to do that on the first day lol

nocturne osprey
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um

limber wagon
leaden grove
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I can check

limber wagon
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Oh cool

copper monolith
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Sane

limber wagon
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Deffo is starting to read like they're trying to paint Poland as a nazi country. but really? 1920? and the pre WW2 non-agression pact?

leaden grove
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Yes, the translation seems accurate enough

copper monolith
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What deranged idiot wrote this shit

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They keep calling Poland the hyena of Europe, and the country of the name Joseph Stalin

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Very cool that they keep making things up to justify invasions

limber wagon
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Another article

copper monolith
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Unfortunately, Ukraine already fucked up ur army, Putler

limber wagon
leaden grove
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Did you listen to Putin‘s speech yesterday? He basically advocated a "cleansing" in Russia

limber wagon
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I didnt, link?

leaden grove
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Hold on, lemme find a version with subs

limber wagon
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with subtitles

copper monolith
limber wagon
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Ah of course.

leaden grove
# limber wagon with subtitles

I have translated and added subtitles to the latest video speech by Vladimir Putin from two hours ago. Please don’t let it go in vain - I want everyone to see what a speech of true fascism looks like.

No further comment needed, it’s all here, in his speech https://t.co/QEzsG9BODX

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leaden grove
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Yw, the translation is accurate as far as I can tell

limber wagon
leaden grove
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Breh

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It hasn’t been an officially recognised Remembrance Day in over two decades

copper monolith
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Very ironic that the website is called "truth"

clear creek
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Morning what are todays events so far

limber wagon
copper monolith
scarlet crown
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why are we reading articles from pravda ru again

limber wagon
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To have a look at what they're claiming

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and also to have a laugh

viral junco
copper monolith
viral junco
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Did we get the figures from yesterday's Russian losses yet?

copper monolith
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Not yet

limber wagon
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Yesterday for comparison

scarlet crown
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most awful thing is that it's in Donetsk region, of self proclaimed DPR

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and yet that didn't stop them either

copper monolith
scarlet crown
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thanks for the resources, cunts

leaden grove
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I just checked myself and there are indeed several planes going east from Moscow, very strange

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My guess is that they’re either trying to pick up reinforcements from other parts of the country or moving government officials for some reason

viral junco
leaden grove
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Seems like it

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Because the IL-96-300PU you see in the picture there is part of the presidential fleet so it‘s definitely some government official

zinc talon
clear pebble
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Nah, they covertly provide the conspiracy theorists with ideas, then publicly promote them to create an artificial sense of independent thought

verbal heath
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🇺🇦 rtgameHeart

scarlet crown
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I've spoke to some people who managed to escape that russian-made hell, the city is just

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ruins

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a husk

copper monolith
split aurora
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thing is like, tactically... I'm not sure the bombardment of mariupol will eve help the Russians

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urban warfare is extremely hard

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urban warfare in a ruined city is even harder

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it destroys any spread of linearity in combat

hollow hollow
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lazerpig video that sums up the conflict pretty well https://youtu.be/ZPBU_MX1fYE

Updates: Since making this video Russia has allowed workers at the Nuclear power plant to safely evacuate.

My previous video exploded, no idea why, but it did, and with it came the zombie hordes of drooling vegetables desperate to sniff the cope glue and claim I was wrong on everything.
Well, we're now 2 weeks in and I think it's time we revis...

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in ww2 the allies extensively bombed the Abbey at monte cassino, Italy. the ruins created extremely good defensive terrain for german paratroopers, and it cost the allies 55,000 lives in the battle to take it

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stalingrad is a similar story, different outcome

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and these ruins of ukranian cities may well be the same

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when less and less things less they have, the more and more they have to gain

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yeppp

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the destruction of mariupol is a fear tactic

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for other towns mostly

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world's second army when they actually have to fight a proper war and not citizens mid-crisis:

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"surrender or we will destroy every part of your town"

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Aftermath of 40 Mile Convoy Thread/1

It is day 19 of Ukraine War. On Day 1, a mysterious convoy of 40 miles (64km) became stuck on the shortest road from Belarus to Kyiv. & while an obvious target for ambush, Ukraine did not destroy this convoy

Was a BRILLIANT tactical move https://t.co/mcXSgLXJIT

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wow

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so what basically happened is that the convoy pretty much just stopped itself and because Ukraine didn't ruin it there were no resupplies?

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that was one insane bit of smart thinking by ukraine

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Ran out of supplies and was unable to move

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Therefore basically harmless

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so ukraine picked off the small convoys

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Buuuuut because it wasnt destroyed Russia tried to resupply it

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yep

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which delayed them for 2 weeks

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lmfaoooo

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man you can tell the difference between competent generals in ukraine and whatever the fuck russia is doing

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wowee, almost like their generals are not competent and are just there to lick putin's ass

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i'd imagine theyre focusing now on not getting killed by putin which means even less focus on the actual war

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Fascinating

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malding

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declares war
does not tell anyone

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war is unpopular
people protest
arrests people
more people protest
arrests more
people even within propaganda stations protest
arrests more
the gains are being lost, counterpush
weapons and equipment that cost your government millions is being stolen by tractors

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greentexts keep the >

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regardless the man is in deep shit regardless of the outcome

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whether it be oligarchs pulling a brutus, coup d'etat, suicide, or the war being lost and him pulling out

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putin has fucked himself regardless of this

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Tfw when you try to become a stalin (1945) and accidentally become a stalin (1939-40)

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Lmao

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he's become a stalin (1953) really

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🙏

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Tuesday was the ides of march

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oligarchs really missed an opportunity there

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# wicked panther Lack of: bitches

I remember when he divorced, people said that it was because he wanted to fully commit to ruling the country and that a family was a distraction lol

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You cant make that shit up

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Bahahaha

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You know after the taliban situation im glad that the good guys are winning for once

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Or at least not losing

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there are a few wars currently going on, and the good guys winning is certainly against the trend, but good to see