the_ukraine_situation

[hushed magnet]

thats soldiers

but also

[fierce arch]

451 aircraft

147 tanks

[hushed magnet]

theyve lost over 10k so far in this war

[leaden grove]

I‘d be a bit wary of those numbers

[copper monolith]

around 10k, the actual number is unknown

[leaden grove]

But yes, you can expect losses in the thousands

[copper monolith]

might be much less, or much more

[leaden grove]

Generally speaking, countries exaggerate their kills and underestimate their own losses

[fierce arch]

it's probably a lot less tbh

[copper monolith]

especially applies to dictatorships like Russia

only acknowledged losses on day 7? at less than 500, while killing over 200 Ukranian "nationalists"

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/UA_struggle/262 there's more destroyed homes each day

good lord..

[leaden grove]

Yeah, I think the main takeaway should be that their fighting forces are not as effective as they claimed

[hushed magnet]

at least supposedly

[copper monolith]

ублюдки блядь

how long is Kharkiv gonna suffer this shit

[fierce arch]

i dont think russia has suffered many losses its just that their vehicles and shit arent as effective as they hoped

[leaden grove]

Don’t forget about the paratroopers, racc

They‘ve been randomly sending in units for days now

[scarlet crown]

say that to pows and their own troops they fucking left to die

[copper monolith]

I think Russia did suffer many losses because their military logistics is so shit, and the clips of paratroopers utterly failing and literally being burned alive...

[scarlet crown]

they're not even helping own soldiers if they're wounded

[split aurora]

every single VDV drop has been massacred

lmao

[fierce arch]

thats true paratroopers

[leaden grove]

Yeah, because airborne troops are meant to support other units or capture key locations, not to assault an entire city on their own

Like what did they expect

[scarlet crown]

there's so many videos of people just finding dead occupants on the side

[leaden grove]

How are 60 infantrymen with light weapons gonna stop tanks

[scarlet crown]

they're just thrown in like cannonball meat

[fierce arch]

russia has been trying to use artillery mainly

[leaden grove]

Well, that might well become their last resort soon

[scarlet crown]

they've been using it to terrorise homes so far

[fierce arch]

it already is

missiles arent designed to actually destroy

they are designed to demoralize

[leaden grove]

Depends on the missile

[fierce arch]

but russia doesnt seem to get that memo

[split aurora]

missiles are to demoralize/hit key targets mostly

Artillery is what you use to level a city

because arty you can just fire shells 24/7

[fierce arch]

well artillery is also designed to demoralize

[split aurora]

yeah

through huge destruction

[fierce arch]

the idea that you might get hit next

isnt very appealing

its clear that russia expected a quick victory and therefore didnt actually strategize

[scarlet crown]

and it's already late to start strategizing

[leaden grove]

Well

[fierce arch]

russia thought that ukrainians would welcome them into their cities and even support them

[mighty tusk]

https://youtu.be/b4wRdoWpw0w

GET EM WENDOVER

FUCKIN GET EM

[fierce arch]

already posted

[mighty tusk]

SICK EM BOY

[scarlet crown]

already been posted

[leaden grove]

^^

[mighty tusk]

WOOOOOOO

I love Wendover

[fierce arch]

i posted it first

that makes me better

[mighty tusk]

Cool

I just saw it

[leaden grove]

Honestly, at this point we might want an extra link channel

[copper monolith]

very good vid tho

[mighty tusk]

And yes you are the superior person

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO

[fierce arch]

+1

although this allows for easier discussion of news and shit

[mighty tusk]

The Ukraine Kicking Ass Link Channel

[copper monolith]

eh nah, that would take away from all the thematic channels

[scarlet crown]

💪

[hushed magnet]

yeah it wouldnt make sense

also we kinda got the pins for that

[leaden grove]

No no, I mean as an additional thread to this channel, not for links in general

[tired scaffold]

This is already a thread, I don't know if subthreads are a thing

[leaden grove]

Thread-ception!

[copper monolith]

ah, idk, as this is a thread idk if we'd make a separate one just for links

[scarlet crown]

you thought it was just a thread? you FOOL

[copper monolith]

best to just look up user: and link: from people

[scarlet crown]

this was actually a thread in a thread of a thread about thread in a thread of this thread!

[leaden grove]

Next suggestion: turn every single message into its own thread

[hushed magnet]

making another whole ass channel just for links would be really confusing imo

[copper monolith]

yeah

[zinc talon]

also a thread for pictures and memes to top it off

[copper monolith]

there is already a meme channel

[scarlet crown]

a thread for more threads even

[zinc talon]

for this thread*

[copper monolith]

though, memes are allowed, as long as they're related to a topic

[zinc talon]

they are?

[copper monolith]

yeah

[fierce arch]

i thought they werent

[split aurora]

and aren't distasteful*

[copper monolith]

but I think this fucked up war is beyond having any humour

[leaden grove]

of course

[zinc talon]

true

[fierce arch]

.

[split aurora]

stuff like this is fine

[copper monolith]

we might laugh at the vehicles being towed away by farmers, but those same vehicles probably resulted in the deaths of children

[zinc talon]

sometimes making fun of things is a way for someone to cope with all of this. As long as it's not distasteful though

[copper monolith]

thank u for the reminder to keep that at the top of pins

[copper monolith]

my thought process here is idk if actual Ukranians would want funny meemees to cope with this shit, as it's happening within 50km of them

what do you think, @scarlet crown

[scarlet crown]

honestly my mind is in places with all of this happening

at one point it is pretty funny to see how a tractor just steals a whole ass tank

at another you just remember all the suffering that your people have to endure for us all to see the day in our own country

im unsure really

[zinc talon]

understandable!

[scarlet crown]

seeing yet another house broken down and burnt, people having to evacuate or stay to help others or their children

reading yet another new of civilian losses

while seeing yet another fucking tiktok of a russian girl complaining about not being able to buy another pair of fucking jeans

[zinc talon]

yeah i completely get you on this point. Mine was less about posting random memes rather than in context of a situation that's lightening up the mood a bit (like with the tractor and the tank)

but may still be missing the point of this thread

[copper monolith]

I'd guess memes are fine if they're related to the subject, and not just making fun of someone's death (cuz those exist sadly)

[zinc talon]

https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1500213954806755332?s=20&t=1owI4cTBGG5MBynkcJMybw

Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien)

Indeed the Russian Army now seems to have fallen prey to one of the great temptations of many militaries created by dictators--lots of flashy weapons but little consideration about how to deliver them (few trucks). https://t.co/8ORKkRJQCL

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 8:57 PM

[copper monolith]

lmao

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500245537626406916?s=20&t=gETssSO3BuGhuNt-jU-fJg

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️100,000 Ukrainians join Territorial Defense Forces.

According to the National Guard of Ukraine, 100,000 Ukrainians have joined the newly established volunteer branch of the Armed Forces since Russia began its all-out war against Ukraine.

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 11:03 PM

[scarlet crown]

interesting

[stark harness]

holy shit?

wait.

HOLY SHIT

[silk iron]

Visa plan to do so as well

it'll probably be the most impactful sanction actually

[fierce arch]

what the fuck

that is incredibly overkill

i mean nobody uses mastercard

but still

[scarlet crown]

wasn't this already posted

[fierce arch]

first visa now this

nah it was visa

[viral junco]

the ruble will sink to new lows on monday i imagine

[silk iron]

microchips are sanctioned as well, will cause huge problems for Russian tech when their stockpile runs out

• will also effect the production of modern military equipment too

[tired scaffold]

further down the thread: https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1500245892451950600

Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien)

Retweeted this but probably should have put this here. This should terrify the Russians if it means what it could mean. They are already running out of trucks.

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 11:04 PM

civilian trucks and vans, with Zs painted on

Have fun maintaining those in war conditions

[fierce arch]

russian moms are gonna have to give up their SUVs to aid the war effort

[scarlet crown]

fucking madlads

[viral junco]

heres another thing

if they rely on ordinary trucks and suvs and such

small arms become overwhelmingly more effective

one kalashnikov could take out a few cars at a time

[tired scaffold]

And so does the mud

[scarlet crown]

especially in march

[zinc talon]

thats not going as planned

[scarlet crown]

it's not going by any fucking plan it seems

[silk iron]

come to think of it what's the weather forecast over Ukraine?

[scarlet crown]

they're just throwing in whatever

[zinc talon]

poor soldiers though

[silk iron]

actually has a huge impact on Russian logistics

[scarlet crown]

doesn't seem like it'll be warmer any day soon, probably high chances of rain too

[silk iron]

excellent

not often i wish for rain

[scarlet crown]

that's how every March begins

[rare walrus]

There have been several photos of Russian vehicles gettin stuck in the mud in northern Ukraine

[scarlet crown]

the weather is not warm enough nor really cold enough

[scarlet crown]

PLUS considering all the snow that melted in the north

[rare walrus]

Ye, the ground is super saturated with water id bet

[silk iron]

not sure why Putin didn't start his invasion one month earlier or one month later come to think of it.

[rare walrus]

Yeah, if the theory that he thought Ukraine would just surrender at the first sight of troops is correct, he might’ve not been thinking about it

[tired scaffold]

At the beginning of the video is a bloody minivan, and what looks like the front of another on the flatbed ahead of it

[silk iron]

The shock and awe plan failed, the Russians should have known better to have an effective contingency plan in place.

[fierce arch]

they have a contingency plan

[silk iron]

it's not very effective as mentioned above

[fierce arch]

keep up the pressure on ukraine until the government collapses and / or surrenders

[viral junco]

unsurprising that oil company continues to be bad

[rare walrus]

Yeah, but with their lack of logistical prowess and Ukraine practically having the entirety of the EU’s logistics on its side, Russia isn’t lookin like it’s gonna get that quick victory

[scarlet crown]

they lied so much about being saviours that they actually believed it themselves

[fierce arch]

there wasn't an alternative choice lmao

[tired scaffold]

If these are commandeered vehicles they might honestly be in better condition than the Russian Army's own trucks were at the start

[clear pebble]

Just more evidence that we need to stop relying so much on oil, a lot of it comes from authoritarian regimes

[rare walrus]

Yeah, oil in general is pretty bad for a lot of different things

[fierce arch]

its hard to not rely on oil considering how much its used for

from energy to plastics

[viral junco]

uae

[clear pebble]

Weaning off it will certainly be difficult, but ultimately necessary

[rare walrus]

Yeah, which is why we need to start moving from it and findin new solutions as well. On a side note however, this might be trailin a bit off topic

[silk iron]

no it's in the outer circle of being on topic

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500254475977728003?s=20&t=S7RYnTKqDAVXg1qeQ1I1qg

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Mariupol Mayor: Russia blockades city, denies humanitarian corridor.

According to Mayor Vadym Boychenko, the city has been left without water and electricity, while 400,000 city residents are held hostage by the Russians.

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 11:38 PM

bruh https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500251932224626693?s=20&t=S7RYnTKqDAVXg1qeQ1I1qg

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Shell continues to purchase Russian oil, pledges to put profits towards Ukraine aid fund.

In response to criticism from Ukraine's FM Dmytro Kuleba for purchasing Russian oil, Shell said it would attempt to find alternatives but it couldn't happen immediately.

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 11:28 PM

[rare walrus]

Ah alright, fair enough

[silk iron]

Europe needs to be self-sufficient when it comes to energy

[viral junco]

half of irelands energy is green

we just need to push for the other half

[copper monolith]

right???

[silk iron]

relying on Russian oil/gas is obviously an active liability to the security of Europe

[rare walrus]

Quite true

[clear pebble]

tbh all countries should probably be energy independent

[silk iron]

this means we need to pressure our governments to invest in nuclear power and renewable energy

[zinc talon]

not how it works though

[fierce arch]

as the company says it wouldnt of gotten there on time

if you read below

[silk iron]

however in the short term energy prices are going to remain high

[zinc talon]

there are countries with certain features that give them an advantage with using renewable energy

[scarlet crown]

since when do people listen to companies

where's the eat the rich spirit

[split aurora]

is that really better then russia

[copper monolith]

vore

[scarlet crown]

why did you have to say that

[silk iron]

yep UAE is better from a pragmatic standpoint

[nocturne osprey]

as foone says, compost the rich

[viral junco]

i am aware that they are not better, however the main point now is to hit russia where it hurts economically so that they cannot continu

e

[split aurora]

eh

[silk iron]

morally no

[split aurora]

all you're doing then is taking funds from one bad guy

to give to another bad guy

[clear pebble]

Least evil

Or, rather, lesser

[silk iron]

one bad guy is not actively destabilising Europe tho

[split aurora]

so the money is used by the UAE to do evil rather then Russia

[fierce arch]

well

only 5% of russia's gdp comes from oil so like

[scarlet crown]

that other bad guy is at least not busy ordering his own people to fucking die while bombing civilians

[split aurora]

he's just importing slaves en masse

who work till death for poverty wages

I mean,this is all hypothetical, since the russia boycotts arent for morale reasons

[scarlet crown]

man

[viral junco]

off topic move on

[split aurora]

I get the pragmatic reasons of wanting to stabilise europe

[silk iron]

we're not really in a position to take the moral standpoint

[split aurora]

ye ye am doing

[fierce arch]

wdym

[split aurora]

Nobody is boycotting russia because they care morally about this

[fierce arch]

no?

[silk iron]

that's untrue, a lot of companies which have no benefit from boycotting Russia and no tangible effect are boycotting Russia anyway

[split aurora]

eitherway

[silk iron]

and some aren't even using it for PR

[split aurora]

as bagel said

off topic move on

[fierce arch]

well this is on topic i think

companies boycotting russia

[split aurora]

I told a mod I'd move on

[fierce arch]

UAE isnt

[split aurora]

and I intend to do that

[silk iron]

so...

[viral junco]

off topic, move on @fierce arch

[scarlet crown]

literally 1984

[split aurora]

down with the mods

no mods no masters

[clear pebble]

????

[split aurora]

We are proclaiming the independent state of rumble tumble

[clear pebble]

bruh what

[split aurora]

yes.

[zinc talon]

viva la resistance

[silk iron]

with reference to shell profiting from Russian oil, but apparently donating profits to humanitarian aid...

lets say for argument sake

[copper monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873407022043889755/937341793119404042/redditsave.com_gq1e87id0re81.gif

[stark inlet]

what if shell tries to buy out all oil from russia so they cant send it to the army

200 iq

[copper monolith]

god that gif aged so badly

[zinc talon]

how dare you

[silk iron]

ah nvm

too tired to even think anymore

[copper monolith]

I remember everyone was making fun of russians invading for like a month

until they actually did

then everyone lost their collective shit

[viral junco]

nobody believed it was going to happen initially

[clear pebble]

Nah Russia has plenty of oil for it's army

[stark inlet]

im kidding chill

[viral junco]

my friend who lives in ukraine told me it would all be ok in december when i was checking in on him regularly

[copper monolith]

Kremlin staff when an actual invasion happens

[silk iron]

it was obvious some military incursion was going to happen, you don't but 100k-150k troops on the border, perform military drills with Belarus, and erect military hospitals to sabre rattle.

no one expected a full scale military invasion

[tired scaffold]

I wonder how long until Putin starts purging his officers

[silk iron]

probably won't happen

Putin is not Stalin

[clear pebble]

It will happen when either A they oppose his plans or B he needs someone to blame for his own shortcomings

[copper monolith]

to be honest

[silk iron]

but i'm not informed and i don't think anybody else is with what Putin's attitude towards naysaying disloyal officers.

[copper monolith]

we don't know who he's removed

we do know he kills anyone who objects him

or at least jails

[azure plover]

cough cough navalny

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/gabriel_pogrund/status/1500232483324968970?s=21

Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund)

EXCLUSIVE 🚨 w/@harryyorke1

British intelligence withdrew assessment that giving peerage to Evgeny Lebedev posed national security risk after Boris Johnson intervened

PM ignored warning about son of ex KGB spy and oligarch, said it was "anti-Russianism"
https://t.co/fo4Uv4wwuD

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 10:11 PM

bri'ian

[silk iron]

navalny's casually been calling for protests

[copper monolith]

very rare non cringe elon

[silk iron]

as you do from a tiny prison cell after being poisoned

[zinc talon]

still no fan of starlink here.

[copper monolith]

fair

[silk iron]

it's a PR move to be sure

[copper monolith]

convo about what Starlink would do to LEO is best for #872103408285417534 tho

[silk iron]

if it helps tho i'll respect Elon for this

[scarlet crown]

it does help though

it provides good internet speed and easy access

[split aurora]

I mean, this is good, but a fucking evil man doing a small good thing doesn't bring him back to neutral

[copper monolith]

I follow SpaceX a lot, though I try to separate it from the cringelord that is their founder and CEO, but he does do rare based things, like Starlink in Ukraine

[scarlet crown]

no one said that

[split aurora]

ik

[scarlet crown]

thanks for what he has done, but that's the only thanks he'll get

[copper monolith]

main thing right now is that it's very good that he's helping Ukraine in their fight against the occupants

[split aurora]

damn

[scarlet crown]

never would i have thought that some of the most important interactions would be held on twitter

we truly live in an era

[clear pebble]

Yeah it's so weird

[molten tartan]

That last remark hit different

[copper monolith]

ikr? previously I thought it was just some dumb interactions that barely affected irl

props to the Ukranian PM for @ ing Elon in the first place

[split aurora]

Most of the coverage of several recent conflicts have been on twitter

this was predictable

(see the azerbaijain-armenia war last year)

almost all footage of that was on twitter

[molten tartan]

Although there have obviously been wars in the middle east and other regions in the last 20 years, this is the first major war with the internet

[split aurora]

Idk I'd call Iraq/Afghan/Syria as major as ukraine

[scarlet crown]

also how are they typing on twitter, didn't that get suppressed

[split aurora]

unless you definition of major means "it affects Europe"

[split aurora]

thats the russia embassy in SA

[scarlet crown]

ahhh

[viral junco]

we know some, take the assassinations in the UK

[fierce arch]

sometimes pr moves are good

[split aurora]

also some russian govt. are using VPNs to bypass

[silk iron]

financial times do be like that

[fierce arch]

do news sites actually think people pay to access them

[silk iron]

well financial times is free for the Russo-Ukraine war

[fierce arch]

do they not look at their earnings report

[silk iron]

very good news source actually

[leaden grove]

I do pay for the New York Times

[fierce arch]

you're weird

[split aurora]

just use a bypass

[fierce arch]

i use this thing called disabling js

[viral junco]

i may start donating to the guardian

[leaden grove]

No, good journalism deserves funding

[split aurora]

😬

please don't.

[fierce arch]

the guardian is fine

its a good news source

[viral junco]

since i can get news sans ads

[silk iron]

when they aren't writing about veganism

[split aurora]

Have you seen the way the guardian reports on british trans people

...its not nice

[viral junco]

oh dear

[leaden grove]

Oof

[split aurora]

(adblock)

[fierce arch]

huh

send it

[silk iron]

no MSM outlets are pro trans people in the UK IIRC

[leaden grove]

But as far as I‘m aware the Guardian got a lot better in recent years

[silk iron]

most just don't say anything

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/Mx_Mouski/status/1499041620913709059/photo/2

https://twitter.com/violetlehappy/status/1499173582437588992

Violet Le Happy (@violetlehappy)

@Mx_Mouski This is EXCELLENT, thank you. Shon Faye also writes illuminating about the Uk/US Guardian issue (among other things) in The Transgender Issue (second pic below) https://t.co/TX5ktVjkPm

Twitter · Mar 3, 2022, 12:03 AM

https://twitter.com/violetlehappy/status/1499173831709237256

Violet Le Happy (@violetlehappy)

@Mx_Mouski (From Shon Faye) https://t.co/5pFyyYIvUr

Twitter · Mar 3, 2022, 12:04 AM

[fierce arch]

people dont seem to understand that news are mostly written by independent journalists

[viral junco]

I wont be giving any donations then

[split aurora]

The guardian are mostly fine on other issues

but basically every UK paper hates trans people

bbc included

[fierce arch]

imo you should do it

just fuck sally

[split aurora]

we're a punching bag to make a culture war out of, the war immigrants are in the USA, for example

[scarlet crown]

just don't donate

[viral junco]

regardless this is starting to get off topic again

[scarlet crown]

only spend money on games

[fierce arch]

?

[leaden grove]

Depends on the outlet

[fierce arch]

well yeah

[split aurora]

^

[fierce arch]

but for example

the guardian is

[leaden grove]

Well yeah

But for example der SPIEGEL heavily relies on its internal team for almost everything

[split aurora]

games and booze are the 2 valid uses for money

change my mind

[leaden grove]

I agree with the games, not with the booze though

[fierce arch]

are we just gonna ignore food or

[split aurora]

Yes.

[split aurora]

^

[leaden grove]

Who needs food when you can have a virtual skin for CS:GO

[split aurora]

whoops i should probs disable pings on those in future

sorry

[fierce arch]

based

fuck eating when you can get a stattrak factory new awp dragonlore

[viral junco]

again

off topic

[silk iron]

Russian assassination plots in the UK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
Polonium 210 - succeeded - 2006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Sergei_and_Yulia_Skripal
Novichok - failed - 2018

Russia assassination plots internally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Berezovsky_(businessman)

• 2013 (very suspicious death of an anti-Putin Oligarch)
  Journalists since - 2000
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
  Navalany Poisoning - 2020
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexei_Navalny

oh and don't forget the failed plots against Zelensky

[fierce arch]

the russian government would neveeeer kill someone they didnt like what do you mean

[icy ridge]

https://kyivindependent.com/national/ukrainian-loses-parent-to-russian-propaganda-i-can-consider-myself-an-orphan/

😢

[scarlet crown]

:(

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1500146854885003271

Jimmy (@JimmySecUK)

To give you an idea of how badly the information war is going for Russia, the Russian Ministry of Defence just locked their Twitter account.🙃 https://t.co/k6X3Ljv4LF

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 4:30 PM

when you ratio a government department so hard they lock their twitter

[scarlet crown]

they're losing it hard

[copper monolith]

[split aurora]

L + Ratio + Cope + Get NLAW's + Tractor-Towed + Can't drive on mud

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1500265946107322368

Rob Lee (@RALee85)

Video of another Ukrainian ATGM strike on a Russian tank.
https://t.co/ecHPAQBIYF https://t.co/qoHU2jfSCw

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 12:24 AM

[stark inlet]

aight guys

got a good long read for ya

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t7l1e8/fsb_whistleblowers_letter_verified_by_bellingcat/

tldr, but i highly suggest reading the whole letter

also the whole world will be fucked in a couple of months in terms of food supply

end especially middle east/africa

[copper monolith]

✍️ 👀

[split aurora]

yep

1/3rd of wheat is made in ukraine/russia

wheats used for bread, the 2nd most commonly eaten food (behind only rice)

hopefully in places like the US farmers can plant food crops instead of cash crops, taking advantage of increased food prices to make it viable, to somewhat reduce suipply shortage

[stark inlet]

hopefully other flour products wont be affected that much price wise

personally i havent been buying wheat stuff for a long time, mostly spelt

tbh theyll prob be affected who am i kidding

[scarlet crown]

can we get a pin on this?

genuinely though

i wish i wasn't this tired so letters wouldn't flow so much

[stark inlet]

text to speech maybe

[fierce arch]

wheres the verification

how am i supposed to believe this

[grizzled steeple]

^ this is reddit we're talking about. Maybe some of the least reliable

[stark inlet]

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1500196510054637569

Christo Grozev (@christogrozev)

Last night, an alleged FSB whistle-blower letter was published that damned Russia's military performance in Ukraine and predicted a disaster for the RU in the next weeks and months. I wasn't sure if it was authentic - as Ukraine had previously leaked fake FSB letters as psy-ops.

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 7:48 PM

[split aurora]

^ bellingcat executive director

[scarlet crown]

the only thing on that reddit is a pastebin link

seems trustworthy

[fierce arch]

twitter

again

i dont trust it

[stark inlet]

lmao

[scarlet crown]

bruh it's fucking bellingcats twitter

[grizzled steeple]

Who bellingcat?

[stark inlet]

🤦‍♂️

[scarlet crown]

They seem to be like independent journalists, they know what's up

[grizzled steeple]

Oh investigative journalist

[scarlet crown]

many times they helped verify news here

[grizzled steeple]

I mean, sure i guess

[fierce arch]

that still doesnt make this automatically trustworthy

substantial news requires substantial verification

[scarlet crown]

ah yes the kremlin will verify this letter

[stark inlet]

ill send an email to fsb hold on

[grizzled steeple]

lol

[fierce arch]

are there news articles on this?

[grizzled steeple]

Nothing on associated press

[stark inlet]

do you really need news articles on this

if anything theyll know less than bellingcat

[scarlet crown]

the guardian has to verify this 🤓

[stark inlet]

surely every single news site has its own contacts in fsb lmao

[grizzled steeple]

But this Grozev guy looks alright

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christo_Grozev

Checks out with his twitter, then again anyone can edit a wiki

[split aurora]

Yknow guys

Believing every single thing from one platform is wrong

is just as bad as believing every single thing is right

[fierce arch]

it is not

wtf

[scarlet crown]

what even..

[viral junco]

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2022/0305/1284650-mcconalogue-ukraine-farming/

for ireland

[grizzled steeple]

Thats interesting

[viral junco]

russian aircraft shot down in Chernigiv

[stark inlet]

RTE?

Rumble Tumble got his own news site

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1500271115750490113

OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical)

Congressional members seem to be coalescing around the Polish/Ukrainian/US MiG-29 for F-16 deal.

Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 12:44 AM

[viral junco]

Raidió Teilifís Éireann

[grizzled steeple]

Its an irish news site right?

[split aurora]

aircraft for ukraine might be back on the table!

[viral junco]

government run yes

it attempts to be neutral in its reporting

[fierce arch]

ireland has an obsession with being neutral

[grizzled steeple]

Is that bad?

[viral junco]

maybe its because we dont have a military
nor do we have much power

nor could we not afford to get involved in conflict
also, we don't like fighting in war

[split aurora]

inbetween being invaded by the british ireland didn't really have much time to do foreign affairs

||/s||

[viral junco]

the most ireland has been able to afford to do is peace keeping operations for the UN like in katanga

[fierce arch]

that's exactly why you beg to the us to protect you

see: literally every small european country

[viral junco]

no, that is not the case

we assumed that while neutral we would be protected due to the obvious proximity to the UK, a major nato nation

however, due to ukraine that has been turned on its head

and now Ireland is now at a crossroads, increase military spending or risk being steamrolled by russia

[grizzled steeple]

Thats interesting

[fierce arch]

well thats why you join nato

[grizzled steeple]

Remember if ireland joins nato, they're forced to send troops if they get dragged into war. Troops they may not have

Troops they may need to defend themselves

[viral junco]

our neutrality has been in place since our dominion status in 22, we did not want to work with britain, nor did we want to aid the allies
in addition to this ireland was war weary and did not want to involve ourselves in violence. The blood shed from 1914 to 1923 was too much, and the troubles made us want to avoid conflict further

[split aurora]

ehhh

[fierce arch]

the only way switzerland can be neutral is that it surrounded by nato countries

[split aurora]

Russia has absolutely 0 reason to go after ireland

[fierce arch]

ireland doesn't really have that benefit

[split aurora]

and how would the UK react to russian troops landing on an island it shares

[viral junco]

hostile

[split aurora]

Yes the UK would protect ireland

russia has 0 reasons to attack ireland anyway

or means to

I don't think increasing military spending really helps

and just uses money that could be sent elsewhere

to have an army capable enough of fighting off russia anyway would take a gigantic amount of your gdp

[viral junco]

Ireland has been attempted to be a springboard multiple times in history
from the spanish army, to the french, to germany in both wars

[fierce arch]

^

[split aurora]

yes but

[fierce arch]

this is why you join nato

[split aurora]

Spain in the late 1500s

and modern russia

[fierce arch]

dedicate a small portion of your gdp

[split aurora]

couldn't be more different

[viral junco]

again, we do not have the resources, and we do not want to fight
it is that simple

[split aurora]

namely theres an entire continent between ireland and russia, a continent filled with russian enemies

[fierce arch]

there is also an entire sky

not filled with as many enemies

and an entire ocean

again not filled with as many enemies

[split aurora]

ah yes the RAF will not mind that at all

:)

[fierce arch]

assuming that the raf could scramble in time

[split aurora]

if russia tried to send planes to ireland they'd be shot the fuck out of the sky by the UK

[split aurora]

w-what

russia violates UK airspace nearly monthly

and we've never failed to scramble in time

our air force is.... superior to russias

by a significant degree

[hushed magnet]

yeah but why would russia need to use ireland as a springboard?

[split aurora]

not to mention the USAF resources here

[viral junco]

bases

regardless

once again it's getting off topic

[split aurora]

ye

[fierce arch]

tbf ireland is in the eu

which comes with a mutual defense pact

similar to nato (but not as binding)

[viral junco]

off topic @fierce arch

[grizzled steeple]

How does a country make a "humanitarian corridor"? Just a set path to which supplies and refugees can pass through?

[fierce arch]

yeah

[stark inlet]

https://www.pcgamer.com/activision-blizzard-and-epic-join-the-list-of-publishers-halting-sales-in-russia/

[grizzled steeple]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskyy-business-philanthropy-phoenix-2802dbb95f0361b1ea0caa2a0e92a9ee

[sweet arrow]

How does companies pulling out of russia harm them exactly? is it is just that russia doesnt get taxes anymore or is it something different?

[stark inlet]

google up gdp

tldr not being able to sell finished imported products - lower gdp and might cripple russian companies

not receiving materials/parts required to make stuff in russia heavily lowers the GDP as it cripples local companies that rely on said parts

see the aircraft industry

in general aircraft companies usually have around 3-4 weeks worth of parts for building new stuff and maintenance (repairs)

no parts == no maintenance == noones gonna send planes anywhere

on top of that theres such thing as sovereign default and ofc the general mood among the citizens

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/MENAConflicted/status/1500290409473400833

Ukraine Memes for NATO Teens (@MENAConflicted)

I'd welcome other folks with armor experience (especially tracked) to comment but I'm finding it weird how many serious people are buying into this myth that Russia didn't know about mud or that armor is just helpless in the mud.

I did my first combat deployment in a

Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 2:01 AM

Good thread

tldr: amoured vehicles getting stuck in mud and bogged down is normal and expected, but the amount of abandonments/failure to recover is due to severe lack of training/logistics/recovery vehicles

[stark inlet]

both logistics and low morale

[split aurora]

ye, that doesnt help

[stark inlet]

also on the topic of the sovereign default, a quick tldr

low tax revenue == country hits the default == stuff like this happens

inflation goes brr

[split aurora]

economics is the one topic I have never been able to understand

[fierce arch]

well fortunately for you

there are people that do understand

and do all the magic

[split aurora]

yeah

Countless people have tried to explain economics to me and I'm just like

"head empty no thoughts"

so I just listen to the smart people

[fierce arch]

supply and demand

aka

"i'm too lazy to explain this"

"so i won't"

[stark inlet]

welp i had to start understanding it lol

majored in manufacturing management (which included a shitton of economy related courses over the 5 years at uni) and mech eng, plus in general i like economy related stuff

[split aurora]

ahh fair

thing is as well like

I'm very good at maths,I'm an incredibly maths/stats minded person

but I just

can't

the second economics or money comes into it

[fierce arch]

tbh economics is approximately 5% math and 95% twitter

[split aurora]

explains why I don't understand it tbh

[tired scaffold]

Economics is mostly made up, while maths is a rigidly fixed-in-reality science

So I'm not surprised you can't wrap your head around it

I can't either

[fierce arch]

humans are weird so economics is weird

[tired scaffold]

Indeed

[split aurora]

true

and a lot of it seems very self reinforcing

like how stock market prices have fuck all grounding in reality someimes

"currency is worth what people think its worth"!?!?!?@?@

https://twitter.com/xychelsea/status/1500124733408481285?t=lnIwFCfmBqXR-h_0oHhxZA&s=19

Chelsea E. Manning (@xychelsea)

ive seen enough - russia has no path to victory in Ukraine - they will continue to advance some (96hr at most) but they lack logistics to “win” anymore Note: barring any extraordinary events (tactical nuclear weapons, or a broadening of the conflict to other nations/allies)

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I agree with Chelsea here

tbh

https://twitter.com/expatua/status/1500224950136979462?t=ZE5BDQ-toMddQIF495H3Kg&s=19

Expat in Kyiv (@expatua)

The Ukrainian soldier that today shot down the $45,000,000 Russian SU-35 jet is a retired postman, rejoined.

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 9:41 PM

chad

[stark inlet]

o7

afaik theres already a massive inflation problem in russia

Around 20% according to polish news tv

In some cases stuff is more than twice as expensive

and its even before any sorts of major shortages begin to show up

[split aurora]

wew

[snow pecan]

Postmen get stuff done

[icy ridge]

New BBC Blog: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60635927

[stark harness]

yup

[grizzled steeple]

I wonder how long the damage to the russian economy will last

[nocturne bobcat]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/597018-two-gop-senators-share-photos-from-zoom-call-with-zelensky-despite-requests?amp

Class acts as always

[stark harness]

good job humans, you were given one basic request and you botched it

[grizzled steeple]

It's not a partisan issue Rubio. It's a request from the person you're talking to

[icy ridge]

Yup I sent that earlier today, seriously....do they not have ears for listening?

[nocturne bobcat]

I can't tell if they're being ignorant or malicious

It's nuts

[icy ridge]

Maybe both!

[clear pebble]

Both sounds about right for those two

[clear pebble]

So the pinned BBC link says they'll be switching live coverage to a different url, someone should probably update it with the new one

[limber wagon]

@copper monolith

[nocturne bobcat]

Won't post it just in case of geneva problemos but there's been some anti Russian quotes from a few of the 11 POWs that surrendered to Ukraine

Basically begging the people of Russia to not believe the Russian propoganda, and that the people of Ukraine are innocent human beings

The article I saw has a pic and while idk what the POWs look like, I'm not taking any chances lol

But uh yeah that's a big deal

[copper monolith]

ye

@clear pebblefixed

also updated the guardian link

saving ukraine's people btw https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500406860469444608?s=20&t=znCNHqS4bauaLESVos2FMA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Media: Russian forces fire at civilians in Irpin, kill at least 3 civilians.

Russian troops deliberately targeted a bridge used by civilians to evacuate, according to media reports. At least 3 people were killed including 2 children.

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 9:44 AM

(officially started 10 mins ago) https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500395435088875523?s=20&t=znCNHqS4bauaLESVos2FMA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Second attempt to evacuate civilians from Mariupol to start at 12 p.m.

According to Donetsk Oblast Governor Pavlo Kyrylenko, a temporary ceasefire will take place from 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. On March 5, Russian forces broke the ceasefire agreement to provide evacuation.

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 8:58 AM

[copper monolith]

oh shit I'm taller by an entire cm

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500382321953882113?s=20&t=znCNHqS4bauaLESVos2FMA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

These are the indicative estimates of Russia's losses as of March 6, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. https://t.co/TgPPCn565U

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 8:06 AM

[split aurora]

I am taller by 0.1cm

😎

[copper monolith]

based

[untold raven]

I'm taller by 6.36cm

[viral junco]

saw a video of a guy making fun of his height on tiktok
his account was removed

[copper monolith]

my grandma's sister and her family lives there, I hope bombs didn't fall anywhere near civilians https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500330487159603206?s=20&t=znCNHqS4bauaLESVos2FMA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Air raid alert in Poltava.

Residents should go to the nearest shelter.

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 4:40 AM

[copper monolith]

unpog

[viral junco]

believe it was prior to the invasion

[copper monolith]

still unpog

[untold raven]

I remember my height because I'm funny number inches tall

[viral junco]

https://twitter.com/timjeby/status/1500246263354343429

Tim Eby (@timjeby)

Since most unfavorable news has been blocked in Russia, one way that Ukrainians are trying to reach the Russian people has been to write very unique Google reviews of popular Russian cafes and restaurants.

This is brilliant. https://t.co/Ni2BQUAJFK

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 11:05 PM

[copper monolith]

didnt google stop google reviews in russia

[viral junco]

all ads are paused there

[raven fossil]

What a small man

[copper monolith]

(bbc)

@solid adder starbase in liberated crimea when

[viral junco]

just to help people as to avoid sharing false informationm

[copper monolith]

the war do be recorded in 4k

[viral junco]

actually yeah upon thinking about that, the quality wouldnt really apply since a lot of footage from the ground is via phone

this seems better

[coral idol]

On a completely different note; being a plane enthusiast in St.Petersburg must be great rn considering the amount of closed airspaces for Russia

[copper monolith]

being an enthusiast of anything must suck

[coral idol]

The vast majority of still existing European flights with Russia is going through the area where St.Petersburg is

[viral junco]

The russian planes made for 6% of air capacity last year

Many competitors could see a huge gap with a ton of new open slots at airports like heathrow

[copper monolith]

@scarlet crown https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500428877138739202?t=5zm4mjB9mMYT9mdMc2hvNg&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Zelensky says that Ukraine is in possession of maps and records, obtained from those captured.

“They are planning to bomb Odesa.”

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[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500436382807900162?t=7CnvcugzCJnSveAjylNdMQ&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Ombudsman: 38 children killed, 71 wounded in Russia's war.

The casualties include a one-and-a-half-year-old boy who died in a shelling by the Russian occupiers in Mariupol, Donetsk Oblast, according to Ukraine’s Commissioner for Human Rights Lyudmila Denisova.

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 11:41 AM

Only 7%, huh? https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500438331624206336?t=JpklI8-KY5AW82GqDMvWiQ&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Moody's downgrades Russia's credit rating close to default.

Rating agency Moody’s expects the Russian economy to shrink by 7% in 2022 and decline further in 2023.

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 11:49 AM

https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1499862043993718792?t=DsbKYp4osPAmt1FAiixduA&s=19

Bill Browder (@Billbrowder)

This is really funny. Now that Apple has left Russia, Apple Maps has put Crimea back in Ukraine https://t.co/sZbei4kFIz

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 9:39 PM

[split aurora]

🙏

[scarlet crown]

uh..

let's hope not

not that they don't bomb but that we manage to deflect it

[split aurora]

in other news, 2.25 hours into ceasefire at mariupol

no reports of it being broken yet

🤞

[copper monolith]

Russkies probably ran out of ammo and their supply vehicles are too slow

[clear creek]

Okay what has happend in the last 24 houres

Welp nestle is continuing its bisnus in Russia

No suprise there they dont hide how evil they are

[split aurora]

not much

small advancements and a lot of shelling

[clear creek]

How is kyiv

Btw has that convoy that was gouing to kyiv moved in any way ore are they still stuck thx to no supley hoi4 style

[copper monolith]

The convoy struggles to advance cuz a bridge they planned to cross got demolished, their supply lines as trash and Ukrainians are also periodically hitting them

[clear creek]

God speed ukrainians using the same strategy like us Belgians

[copper monolith]

But yeah, more war crimes by Russia, some advances made by both sides, and a ceasefire is actually working in one city with people able to get out of there

[split aurora]

im not sure if they've started moving people out yet

but the ceasefire appears to be holding

[clear creek]

Props a general that cought on that breaking cease fires is onley making it more likly that the west will intervien

[nocturne osprey]

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1500447639065841664?t=fyK6YAwxL2drAxCKBWyyyg&s=19

Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa)

Терміново! https://t.co/P99C5UJlte

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▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 12:26 PM

[split aurora]

I'm sure I saw something that said the evacuation starts at midday

[copper monolith]

Should've been going for 2 and a half hrs now

[nocturne osprey]

would someone be able to translate what he's saying

[clear creek]

They shoud be hafe an hour in then

[clear creek]

Ein shoud be abel but he is taking a break

[split aurora]

ceasefire is 12-9 ukrainian time

[nocturne osprey]

that's good

that he's taking a break

[copper monolith]

I can give it a watch, gonna get my earphones, but heres one translation in the replies https://twitter.com/RM_ro7/status/1500448290546266112?t=UP94gjQmf4jbi2CS_pY3hQ&s=19

Ron (@RM_ro7)

@failedandspicy @ZelenskyyUa Zelensky: Russians fired 12 missiles at Vinnytsya, completely destroyed the airport. They continue hitting Ukraine’s peaceful infrastructure

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[clear creek]

Hey a quistion i have been tp afraid to ask

With wich hand do you salute

Seriusly

Right ore left

[split aurora]

Google.com

[clear creek]

I dont want to be disrespectfull

[split aurora]

also every country and military has a different salute

[clear creek]

Okay US milletary is right hand

[copper monolith]

More on that - asking for a no fly zone and a creation of a humanitarian zone, and also asking for more aircrafts and other weaponry to defend against russian air power

@nocturne osprey

He was angry that without that aid and no no fly zone, innocent people are dying

[split aurora]

yknow, i had a thought

zelensky probably knows the west will completely refuse to give him a no fly zone, but he keeps pushing as it puts pressure on the west and causes them to help in other ways

via missiles, javelins, planes, aid, etc.

makes sense tbh

[clear creek]

My mom yesterday : dous Putin seriusly think he can tell the EU what to do. Has he lost it? Since he acts like he is a God.

But in Flemmish ofcource

[copper monolith]

He does yeah, as a lot of gas and oil is transferred from Russia, which is one of many reasons that we need to decarbonise asap

Russia's power over Europe will shrink considerably when we stop giving them money for gas

[proven steppe]

Prices are going up SO FAST over here in latvia

[split aurora]

Vladimir Putin, the unlikely ally in our war against climate change

||/s||

[proven steppe]

3 cents per day i think

[split aurora]

fuel in the uk is up a solid 20-30% since 2020

[copper monolith]

Ye here I'm Lithuania there was a price jump of over €0.30 on diesel

[split aurora]

Gas and electricity bills are up 44% and 55% respectively

One womans gone from £200 per month to £400, expected £700 by the end of the year

casual 3.5x increase in bills

[copper monolith]

I might have to stop contributing to Folding@Home if energy prices keep going up

[split aurora]

:(

Yeah I had to stop doing the same

and massively watch my power usage

as my families starting to struggle with the rising bills

[nocturne osprey]

ah alr

thx val

[split aurora]

faster we decarbonise

faster we can get to more self sufficient green energy

and stop these mad fluctuations

[clear creek]

Electric car owners right now....

Who also own solar pannels

[copper monolith]

Germany, who turned off all their nuclear power lol

[clear creek]

And heat with any other system then gas

[clear creek]

Ok dont forget that Belgium is also planing that shit

Nuclear is 50%+ of our energy

[copper monolith]

One of the things Lithuania needed to do to join the EU was to turn off our nuclear power plant (cuz it was getting old and of the same generation as the one in Chernobyl) , feels bad man

[clear creek]

Ok two of our reactors need to go there to old but the rest is still good

[copper monolith]

And then we have chad France that gets most of its energy from nuclear and isn't planning to stop that, and also the UK building their own new reactors

[clear creek]

We realy need to restart the youth protests

[stark inlet]

Coal gang here

😎

[clear creek]

Fuck of

[proven steppe]

Latvia wanted to build a power plant, but they didnt 🙂

[clear creek]

Im sorry but even as a joke thats not ok

[clear creek]

Money?

[proven steppe]

I think it was due to people not wanting it

[stark inlet]

I mean yea im aware that polands the shithole of europe in terms of electricity

[proven steppe]

Bikes are the way to go rn

[nocturne osprey]

I really hope I'll be able to contribute to the SMR projects here. it's one of the reasons I'm heavily considering doing a degree in nuclear engineering

[clear creek]

Why peapol so afriad of a reactor that wad porly maniged reactor and a realy well reactor that had a partial meltdown thanks to ONE OF THE WORST TSUNAMI'S IN MODERN HISTORY THAT MOVED JAPAN FISICLY A FEW INGES

[stark inlet]

Mostly because of the current govt that doesnt seem to do anything about it

Hell they even closed some major wind farms

[clear creek]

FOR WHAT REASON DO YOU CLOSE WINDFARMS LIKE WTF

[rare walrus]

Yeah, both of those reactors that had meltdowns were also pretty old tech wise for their time, especially for now as well

[proven steppe]

We wanted to build windfarms in latvia but some dumbasses really said "the birds will run into em and die, also 5G." And they never got built. HOW THE FU-

[clear creek]

Fukoshima (sorry for spelling) wassend even that bad come on peapol

[split aurora]

uk has a lot of wind too

on good days 1/3rd or more power is wind

[clear creek]

You shure

Thats a lot my man

[split aurora]

theres a site called gridwatch

that shows the exact breakdown of uk power generation minute by minute

largest 5 rn

cggt is gas burning

[nocturne osprey]

???????

whyyyyyyyy

[split aurora]

28th march 2021

wind made up 48.2% of power generation

[rare walrus]

Woah, that’s a pretty neat site

[split aurora]

5am on the 17th february 2022

wind made up 57.5%

in that hour

solars 1hour peak

22.1%

[split aurora]

yeah i obsessed over this in lockdown

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/Saberspark/status/1499161094992109571?t=qQABN5r82uvolgXTHdjCLg&s=19

Saberspark (@Saberspark)

Been following this Ukrainian movie called Mavka since 2017 and my heart breaks for the people involved with the film. They've been working so hard & were proud to release a movie that represents their history and culture. It was supposed to come out this year but who can say now https://t.co/pFc4whYWvP

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Twitter · Mar 2, 2022, 11:13 PM

[split aurora]

it also has a breakdown of lifetime co2 generation per gigawatt by powersource

[copper monolith]

We do be getting a bit off topic, gamers

[split aurora]

fair

#outside-world more appropriate?

i have a lil bit more to ramble about this :p

[copper monolith]

Ye

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500457279501516803?t=72GPxQEUmymkb1v-GjJ1RQ&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Thousands protest against Russian occupation in Kherson Oblast.

The March 6 rally in Russian-occupied Nova Kakhovka, featuring Ukrainian flags, follows similar rallies in Kherson and other Ukrainian cities.

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 1:04 PM

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500461868229533698?t=W7xWyEO1HlHHz8VsQx2aVQ&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

The video shows the sight of the airport in Vinnytsia that got hit by 8 rockets during a Russian airstrike on March 6, according to President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Video: Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine/Telegram https://t.co/mesfSwboxu

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 1:22 PM

[proven steppe]

fucking hell

[split aurora]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ukraine-refugees-france-uk-b2029536.html

uk moment

[copper monolith]

Welp that's over now

[paper cedar]

Hopefully the studio can still release it

[paper cedar]

oh, I hoped it would be longer

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1500472220346466305

Thomas van Linge (@ThomasVLinge)

#Ukraine 🇺🇦: people in occupied Nova Kakhovka (#Kherson) have restored the Ukrainian flag over the town. https://t.co/8F8wvFSz6k

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 2:03 PM

[copper monolith]

what the fuck are these deranged idiots doing https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500474607459094528?s=20&t=oeYOxa0hRFdKYt2aV5TlHg

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Russian troops shell nuclear research facility in Kharkiv.

The Kharkiv branch of Ukraine’s Security Service reported that Russia used Grad multiple rocket launchers to shell the Kharkiv Physics and Technology Institute.

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 2:13 PM

[split aurora]

russia moment

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1500475231215001604

OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical)

Ukrainian farmers tow away an MT-LB https://t.co/j2QNvP1qa9

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

yknow these tractors seem more effective then the tanks

[stone vigil]

I mean the farmers have access to fuel, a lot of the tanks dont

[scarlet crown]

at this point one ukrainian farmer is more war competent than 5 russian soldiers

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/Den_2042/status/1500464754254618636?s=20&t=scnRH2ylo7uhfuC7jq0bnQ

Denis Kazakiewicz (@Den_2042)

There is an experimental nuclear reactor in Kharkiv in Physics and Technical Institute.
Today Russians have shelled the premises of the Institute.
Source: Kharkiv office of Security Service of Ukraine. https://t.co/fhJWiZeQPa

Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 1:34 PM

[stone vigil]

I mean if the turrets still work it would be possible to turn them into static defenses

[copper monolith]

(bbc)

[split aurora]

why image no send

[viral junco]

youre just copying and pasting the same images charlotte

[split aurora]

discord pls

[split aurora]

they arent sending

[viral junco]

i'm deleting the ones you are repeatedly posting

[split aurora]

huh

they never once showed up on my screen as sent

sorry for spam :p

discord being weird

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1500479931981180933

🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons)

#Ukraine: Western weapons continue to flow into Ukraine - for the first time a Ukrainian serviceman was seen with the Swedish "Pansarskott m/86" (AT4-CS) anti-tank launcher.

It was previously reported that Sweden would supply 5,000 AT4 to Ukraine. https://t.co/1PNgPA5fzy

Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 2:34 PM

[copper monolith]

👀

[hushed magnet]

What the fuck????

Why?????

[split aurora]

fear

https://twitter.com/FPWellman/status/1500479155133198338

Fred Wellman (@FPWellman)

Putin is scared.

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 2:31 PM

putin is hiding in his palace behind lines of vehicles

[crisp willow]

Pathetic

[hushed magnet]

What a great leader amirite

[copper monolith]

that building houses his very big table

the entire length of it is dedicated to the table

[molten tartan]

Afternoon

[copper monolith]

ay

[zinc talon]

hey

[molten tartan]

Another day a bullet hasn't been put in Putin's skull

shame

[buoyant sundial]

I still stand by my opinion that everyone should receive a trial to establish their crimes. I doubt any trial would say anything but that Putin is guilty… But still.

[molten tartan]

So do I, but in this scenario

I'm not so sure

[split aurora]

Yes ideally everyone should recieve a trial

but if a terrorist has a rifle

and is spraying down innocents

do you shoot him, or wait till hes stopped shooting to detain him for trial

you save the countless lives, and shoot him

shooting putin rn would save thousands and thousands of lives

so its morally justified

[buoyant sundial]

Yea, but if it’s a choice between the two, and nobody more would die either way most likely… go for the trial.

[split aurora]

Yeah

in a perfect idealistic scenario

[copper monolith]

also as mentioned on stream, RT will try to do a fundraiser for Ukraine some time in the near future!

[split aurora]

man their advance really has stalled down

[limber wagon]

idk, they're getting awfully close to kyiv again

[split aurora]

every inch forward they go makes it harder for supplies to reach them

[split aurora]

nah they've been that close for the last week

[limber wagon]

They've definiely made some progress in the east

Since yesterday

[split aurora]

yes but

[viral junco]

in fact the russians lost ground near kyiv

[split aurora]

none of thats captured

thats just a single convoy

[limber wagon]

Also, they reached this highway

[split aurora]

single unsupported line of vehicles waiting to go boom

nothings actually "captured" along those long streaks

bar maybe. a couple very small towns

[limber wagon]

Why does captured matter?

[split aurora]

@limber wagon because if you don't capture the land behind you

and the enemy walks behind you

[limber wagon]

Also, if its just a single convoy waiting to go boom, why hasnt it done so already?

[split aurora]

you get encircled

[split aurora]

several convoys already have

[limber wagon]

Yes, but that convoy?

[split aurora]

ukraines knocking them out one by one

[split aurora]

that convoys barely movjng

as is

it can hardly move due to logistic issues

/heavy ukranian attacks

[limber wagon]

e

[split aurora]

as the brits and American MODs are reporting

[split aurora]

that huge streak isn't new

[limber wagon]

Its getting closer

yesterday it was less close

now it is more close

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500493414281977856?s=20&t=H8fPeJYgfe9Y3MP8wibyfw

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ Russia to stop war only if Ukraine surrenders, meets Russia's demands.

Vladimir Putin said that Russia is ready to negotiate after “all known Russian demands are met.”

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 3:28 PM

[split aurora]

eitherway its... not really that significant a threat

its a sitting duck

that can barely move

if the logistics made sense and they had anti-air then it'd be a threat

[limber wagon]

Well you're kinda asserting that

[split aurora]

No

I'm repeating the British MOD take on it

that it can barely fucken move and is constantly bogged down

[viral junco]

this war will be a russian meat grinder if thats the way he will make it

[split aurora]

and then I'm using my knowledge that "tanks that can't move" = "not much of a threat to a target some miles away"

[limber wagon]

e

[split aurora]

do you have an image of it compared to yesterday

[limber wagon]

No

[limber wagon]

4th

[split aurora]

unless somethings radically changed that nobody has reported on since the 4th

[copper monolith]

over 10k already, dunno if Russia ever had this many arrests before

[limber wagon]

Literally e

[split aurora]

if the convoys situation has changed it'd have been reported on

I'm not believing its changed without any evidence of it

[copper monolith]

frens no arguing 😔

[split aurora]

wow

how long can they keep control of this?

is what I wonder

[limber wagon]

Whats the average sentencing for protesting again?

[copper monolith]

like 2-3 years idk

[split aurora]

also

[limber wagon]

Thats a lot

[split aurora]

does russiaa have jail until trial

is another question

[copper monolith]

yeah

[split aurora]

in the uk youre free to go after arrest until your court date

in Japan your jailed until your court date

whats it like in russia i wonder

[split aurora]

(which means you can be locked up for months for a minor crime you didn't commit)

https://www.hrw.org/news/2013/10/15/russia-grant-bail-detained-protesters

I'll take that as a "probably not"

lmao

[stark inlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t80jj1/police_officers_in_moscow_today_are_stopping/

[copper monolith]

dressed like riot police wtf

[viral junco]

look at the police vs the army

[copper monolith]

probably checking if ppl are trying to bypass kremlin's bullshit

[stark inlet]

ikr

[copper monolith]

also lol that top comment

[viral junco]

you have military men as police with the budget of the army and an army with the budget of a subway's profits

[stark inlet]

they see the well equipped police and believe that the same applies to the army

[split aurora]

The UK and Russia have a similar budget army

the uk has 60k troops

[stark inlet]

because most of the time they arent aware of the armys actual state

[split aurora]

russia has hundreds of thousands

that kinda says a lot about the quality of each troop/equipment

went the budgets being spread so thin

[viral junco]

odd to think the that martial law wouild be weaker than that of the police

[stark inlet]

50k foreign soldiers have agreed to travel to ukraine

and theres 60-70k ukrainians returning to help as well

[split aurora]

my neughours neighbour is an ex marine, apparently some of his veteran friends are being paid a lot of money to go and fight for ukraines

as basically mercenaries

[tired scaffold]

I wouldn't be surprised if the police are much more fanatically pro-Putin than the army of unwilling conscripts

[mighty tusk]

mercenaries is war of the future

allows governments to say it's going well

or they aren't sending the troops in

[tired scaffold]

Mercenaries have existed for millenia

[mighty tusk]

true but usually as an additive

especially here in the US we love using mercenaries as a cover up

[split aurora]

nah

[mighty tusk]

amazing for press

[split aurora]

mercenaries have historically formed entire armies

[mighty tusk]

sigggh

what im getting at is.

[split aurora]

Mercenaries as an idea kinda died in the 1800s/1900s

[mighty tusk]

governments like using them to cover up.

instead of saying to press oh this happened and this, or we are sending in the troops, etc. etc.

just hire people

[split aurora]

We're not sending the army! We're authorising the deployment of private security to help stabilise the region

[copper monolith]

speaking of mercenaries

[mighty tusk]

yes

or even just, dont say you're sending anyone at all lol

[limber wagon]

You're talking about how war has gone out of fashion right? How every country renamed their war departments to "defense" and how insted mercenary groups are used as an inbetween to not get as much attention right?

[mighty tusk]

yep

[limber wagon]

Yeah, there is some truth in that. but Idk if its fair to say mercenaries are the future. More like people like war less and governments want deniability

[split aurora]

"Ministry of defence*"

*since 40years ago has near exclusively worked in foreign offensive wars

[mighty tusk]

it's always defense

"We are storming Ukraine to defend ourselves in the future" im p sure is there actual official statement right lol

[limber wagon]

In their defense, even having an army is a form of defense as it means you're less likely to be attacked. Same as having anti missile systems even if they're never used

[fierce arch]

us doesnt use mercenaries we give the locals 500 rpgs

[split aurora]

yeahhh

wai-

oh for fuck sake i just noticed that pun

[limber wagon]

:)

[split aurora]

😩

[limber wagon]

I aim to bring suffering

[mighty tusk]

yeah we give all of them Fallout 4 and then say "damn why did they fail"

[fierce arch]

the afghanistan technique can only work so well

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1500502132721688577?s=21

BNO News (@BNONews)

BREAKING: Russia's Defense Ministry says countries which use their airfields to supply Ukraine with fighter jets may be regarded as participants in the conflict

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 4:02 PM

today on "Things that wont happen"

[zinc talon]

"countries who don't send all their money to russia may be regarded as participants in the conflict"- Defense Ministry, next week

[copper monolith]

"countries that exist r participant in the conflict" - a week after that

[split aurora]

Next tuesday "Countries which don't include the string "Ussia" in there name are considered participants in the conflict"

happy noises from OstPrussen

Also

russia already said

"people who send guns to ukraine are considered participants"

sooooooooooooo thats most of Europe

[crude depot]

damn can’t wait for my country to send like 7 bananas

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/alin_baraitaru/status/1500235249032351752

Novaxx Djocovid 🌻 (@alin_baraitaru)

@RALee85 I like these kind of maps better https://t.co/1y6COofIBl

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 10:22 PM

[copper monolith]

nice

[split aurora]

6th marchhttps://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1500488236954955783

Nathan Ruser (@Nrg8000)

Putin's War - The Ukraine Daily Briefing Map for March 6th.

The second picture shows only Russian advances from the last 24 hours.
Slight Russian gains in W Kyiv, Chernihiv/Sumy region, Mykolaiv, Kharkiv and the Donbas.
See reply for timelapse video. https://t.co/atPVgIRA8h

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 3:07 PM

[granite jewel]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1500147298520768515?s=20&t=J4kcAaRHbHRSihl4Qko5AQ

Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24)

A team of Russian soldiers wanted to use the elevator to reach the roof of an office building.

The Ukrainian administration of the building trapped them inside by cutting off the electricity.

The Ukrainians also used an industrial camera to take this commemorative photo. https://t.co/JwF9tHh1T5

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 4:32 PM

[split aurora]

yeee this was posted yesterday, fucking hilarious

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1500508202458390529

OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical)

Aircraft shot down over Kharkiv https://t.co/psOUL26SI5

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2022, 4:26 PM

[granite jewel]

Oh

[split aurora]

das a big fireball

[granite jewel]

Aight

[split aurora]

ngl its a great sign of inexperience

like

why the fuck would you take an elevator in an active combat zone

[clear creek]

Big words for a country in nuke range

[granite jewel]

Also heard that the Russian embassy tried to gaslight Germany

[zinc talon]

wouldn't call it hilarious though

[split aurora]

I would

rookie mistake

lmao

[granite jewel]

https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/1500214250727481350?s=20&t=ugut8dahx1oSMtiJvc4Szw

Russian Embassy, UK (@RussianEmbassy)

“@GermanEmbassySA @BJdes @EmbassyofRussia @MbalulaFikile @mfa_russia @PMSimferopol @RusConsCapetown @mahasharampedi @SABCNews @ThabisoLehoko @MID_Kaliningrad @RusEmbEthiopia @georgegalloway @calebmaupin Sadly, Germany was silent all these 8 years. Where were you, experts? What you really should be sorry for, is for failing to persuade Ukraine to...

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 8:58 PM

[clear creek]

Did he just try to out Nazi Germany while bombing holecoust memorials

[granite jewel]

Was this posted already?

https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1499884293740539908

℮oin Higgins (@EoinHiggins_)

Sky News crew under fire from death squad in Ukraine.

Somehow they all survived. Crazy shit https://t.co/4O0nuYhDCD

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 11:07 PM

I honestly don't know what's the latest stuff because well

I stopped paying attention

Not that i didn't care, i just prefer not to know as much anymore

[fierce arch]

"fighting nazism" while at the same time doing ethnic cleansing

[stark inlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t82gax/ukrainians_cheering_as_a_fighter_plane_was/

holy fuck

[cerulean canyon]

I saw this and I'm not sure if people would think it's a good idea but figured I'd share as possibility

[split aurora]

assuming that airbnb doesn't take a cut, sounds great

[cerulean canyon]

Agreed!

[fierce arch]

of course they take a cut

what, did you think they just didn't make money

[cerulean canyon]

It's still a way to help out especially if people are housing refugees so

Just something to consider if folks want hah