#the_ukraine_situation

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leaden grove
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Huh

cerulean canyon
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So I'm listed as an independent but when primaries come around I have to change my party lmao

leaden grove
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You have to decide before you vote?

cerulean canyon
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There's two primaries
A Democrat and Republican one

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But essentially yes, if your party is set to something different then the two parties

leaden grove
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We don’t have primaries here

cerulean canyon
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You'd have to update your id and stuff

leaden grove
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And you don’t have to register to vote either

cerulean canyon
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That's how it should beeeee

leaden grove
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You get a letter if you‘re eligible and that’s it

cerulean canyon
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Well so, I think once you turn 18 and you go and get your ID card, you get asked if you want to register to vote and stuff, but other then that yeah you have to register

Your address has to be updated too and stuff because you can only go to specific polling places

leaden grove
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Huh

cerulean canyon
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Yee so your polling place is decided based on your address generally
So let's say you are living on one side of town but your address is set to the other, you'd have to go across town lmao

leaden grove
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You’re usually assigned a polling place here too

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And you‘re legally obliged to keep your address updated anyways

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You get a fun sticker on your ID

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And there’s basically two ways members of parliament are elected in national elections because people have two votes

cerulean canyon
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Yeahhhh
We are supposed to update them no more then 14 days after an address has changed and I always forget to do it D:

leaden grove
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One vote is for the electoral district (each district gets to send one person to the parliament) and the other one is for the popular vote

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So first all the people who won their district get into parliament, and then the other seats are assigned to the parties depending on the popular vote

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And each party has an ordered list with candidates

cerulean canyon
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Seeeeeeee
That makes sense omg

leaden grove
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So let‘s say one party wins 10 districts and 20% of the popular vote, but the direct vote only gives them 10% of all seats, they would get additional seats so that the final result reflects the popular vote (and the other parties too ofc)

unreal path
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Any major things happen today? I’ve been out most of the day so I haven’t been able to catch up minus that NATO isn’t doing a no fly zone

leaden grove
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uhh, more heavy shelling

unreal path
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:(

leaden grove
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Mariupol is still surrounded

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But the fire at that nuclear power plant was put out in the morning

split aurora
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:)

unreal path
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Oh that’s good at least

leaden grove
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Luckily they only hit a training building in the perimeter

split aurora
unreal path
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🇺🇦 ablobsalute

split aurora
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ukraine has made some mild territory gain

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russia sent in another paradrop that got wiped

unreal path
split aurora
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yeah iirc they retook some suburbs north of kyiv

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and a town in the south

unreal path
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Impressive

split aurora
stark inlet
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hostomel?

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let me guess

split aurora
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the airport

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near kyiv

stark inlet
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vdv again?

split aurora
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yep!

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another unsupported paradrop!

stark inlet
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jesus fucking christ

split aurora
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leading to a group of soldiers wiped out!

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but yeah todays gone pretty well

leaden grove
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This is Kharkiv

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From today

scarlet crown
solid adder
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has this been linked yet?
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unreal path
split aurora
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😂

unreal path
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I wonder if Ukraine was able to push Russia back would they beyond the Contact Line and/or go into Crimea ablobthinking

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like not into Russia would they try to reclaim their territory during this conflict or wait

scarlet crown
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I feel like we'd take the chance and take them home

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it's been long 8 years without them already

stark inlet
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mighty russian army in one post

icy ridge
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Note the Next Tweet in the Bottom

unreal path
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oh btw have we heard anything about that ceasefire to allow aid to come in?

split aurora
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RIP apartje

split aurora
unreal path
split aurora
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19 trucks sat there waiting and the russians refused to let them come

icy ridge
split aurora
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and refused it

unreal path
split aurora
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bbc report^

unreal path
unreal path
icy ridge
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Idk about Crimea actually but they do majority speak Russian there now so

unreal path
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well yeah but there are majority speaking Russian regions in Ukraine that have changed their tune away from Russia with this invasion

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I wonder if the invasion could encourage a rebellion against the Russian occupation in any of the 4 regions

stark inlet
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fuck

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7 mins late

icy ridge
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?????

stark inlet
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russian military comms

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people are jamming them with random shit

unreal path
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lol

icy ridge
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Lolol

unreal path
split aurora
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4625hz has been going for like

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30years

icy ridge
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Where are you getting this? I wanna see the chaos 👀

split aurora
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and its constantly been home to pirate radio / jamming

stark inlet
leaden grove
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Here are some of the street interviews I was referring to earlier with subtitles: https://youtu.be/kELta9MLOzg

Many Russians are being fed a daily media diet of Kremlin propaganda that hides the terrible destruction and human cost of their country's invasion of Ukraine. So how did ordinary Russians in Perm and Vladivostok react when Current Time reporters showed them some images?
Originally published at - https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-vox-pop-ukraine-i...

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split aurora
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awww all the livestreams of it are offline

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this was before the invasion

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lmao

stark inlet
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yup

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bad apple, gorillazs clint eastwood

icy ridge
stark inlet
unreal path
zinc talon
split aurora
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yeah i saw it

split aurora
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i can hear what sounds like some kind of talk

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and "russia" "military"

solid adder
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this radio fun

copper monolith
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Sleep time, may Kyiv stand! Слава Україні!

split aurora
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ngl could get a lot of fun horror movie sounds from here

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playing about with the settings

split aurora
icy ridge
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Wait what am I supposed to be listening for? It's just beeping atm

split aurora
hushed magnet
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Слава Україні!

split aurora
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if you want cool stuff you kinda gotta wait

stark inlet
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in chat

solid adder
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the chat provides some cool frequencies or whatever

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currently listening to music through it

split aurora
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ye

solid adder
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1008.00 AM

icy ridge
solid adder
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how? it's pretty clear to me

icy ridge
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????

split aurora
split aurora
solid adder
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yeah!

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its nice

split aurora
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is this actual radio or pirate?

solid adder
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idfk

split aurora
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fair

icy ridge
solid adder
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the frequency was linked in chat and I clicked it lol

unreal path
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what's the chance that someone has jammed it with the wide putin music ablobthinking

icy ridge
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4625 was just beeping....the music was so soft and the beeping so loud so

split aurora
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yeah 4625 beeps 24/7

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the music is people trying to drown it out

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with varying degrees of success

icy ridge
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3762.288 seems to be Spanish?????

solid adder
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yeah im on there rn too

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Mexican hotel 😩

split aurora
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lmao

unreal path
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spanish spies? eyeshype

icy ridge
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3725 :) 🫡

stark inlet
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3725 lsb

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ukrainian anthem

split aurora
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no this is phonetic alphabet

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whats it called like

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O = oscar, b = bravo

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etc

icy ridge
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Ah

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The Aviation language

split aurora
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3725 ukranian anthem

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LSB

unreal path
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yeah NATO/ICAO Phoentic

split aurora
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this shit is cool

solid adder
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shipping forecast 198 am

unreal path
icy ridge
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Is the Ukrainian Anthem supposed to be a bit soft....we can't get it clearer?

unreal path
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not the best graphic for dark mode

split aurora
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on 3725

icy ridge
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I did

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It's clear

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But not like

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1008

split aurora
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ye

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its more to drown out

solid adder
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the shipping forecast is fun

split aurora
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these frequencies have multiple broadcasts on them, both the anthem and the normal talking

stark inlet
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like for the first 3-4 days there were multiple reddit posts appearing on r/ukraine whenever there was a russian transmission starting

split aurora
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hehehe

unreal path
stark inlet
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caught one when i was visiting my parents, my dad translated even some of it

icy ridge
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So basically no current Russian transmission atm just Ukrainian Anthem and shipping forecast 🤣

solid adder
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whats 1404 lsb

icy ridge
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Wait

solid adder
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oh music

icy ridge
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What's 6607?

split aurora
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morse

stark inlet
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sick guitar solo on 1404

icy ridge
split aurora
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could very well be

stark inlet
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198 am

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briish

solid adder
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yea lol

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it was the weather forecast

split aurora
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lmfao its just the bbc

solid adder
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I love it

icy ridge
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Sadly my Morse code apps couldn't pick up any sounds so nothing translated

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3687 LSB RUSSIAN???

solid adder
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he sounds fuckin dead

icy ridge
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Anybody can translate?

split aurora
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(when saying a report, include the type)

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am/fm/usb etc.

split aurora
unreal path
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With Russian military forces on the offensive in Ukraine, countries in Europe are on edge. Finland is a stable and prosperous democracy that shares an 800-mile border with Russia, and while it is not a member of NATO, Finland buys military equipment from the U.S. and is a member of the European Union. Judy Woodruff spoke with Finland's President...

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icy ridge
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Oskar kilo 5 delta 🤣

solid adder
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VERY FUNNY

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he sounds like he's about to burst into laughter

icy ridge
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Oh he's speaking English not Russian nvm

solid adder
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hm

icy ridge
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Oh dammit, I was wondering If I could access my local radio stations from here 🤣

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Oh nvm they use MHz

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Back to finding Russian Transmission

split aurora
icy ridge
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Since mine would be 103500

split aurora
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there'll be a cap on it

icy ridge
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Also alleges Russian Transmission came in on the chatbox

solid adder
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yeah

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only one has people talking

icy ridge
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10057 usb (sometimes) and 7140 usb

solid adder
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lol rasputin on 4625 usb

icy ridge
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4625 usb lovely Rasputin hahaha

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7150 LSB??? Russian?

solid adder
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nop

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they're speaking englis

icy ridge
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Ah

solid adder
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just said mexico

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3694 lsb ????

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is this russian

icy ridge
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Def Russian

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Kept hearing Putin haha

solid adder
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yea

icy ridge
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Can somebody translate??👀

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Google translate is not picking up any sound so it can't translate

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Oh nvm it's an amateur band

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3707lsb

solid adder
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im gonna stop listening

icy ridge
split aurora
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interesting thread

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that would be one hell of a large cordon

fierce arch
stark inlet
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Chechen special forces

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lmao

unreal path
icy ridge
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Seems the Chinese people are split on the situation

icy ridge
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Serbia what is happening 😭

fierce arch
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serbia is such a mess

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it cant decide if it wants to be eastern or western

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all the while kosovo is just chilling there

icy ridge
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I just read the BBC article of the woman who is experiencing the bombing but her mother didn't believe her... literally laughed at her....it's so heartbreaking seeing mother-child relationship just destroyed cause of brainwashing

unreal path
copper monolith
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I'll believe it when I see it

severe forge
copper monolith
copper monolith
copper monolith
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U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken told BBC that "Ukraine can absolutely win against Russia."

He added that "the war has already not gone as Russian President Vladimir Putin might have planned."

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“If it’s the intention of Moscow to try somehow to topple the government and install its own puppet regime, Ukrainians are going to reject that one way or the other,” he added.

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viral junco
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Yep

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I'd bet an insurgency is certain if they take ukraine

zinc belfry
copper monolith
zinc belfry
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:)

scarlet crown
stark inlet
leaden grove
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Former Estonian president Ilves is speaking right now

copper monolith
hollow grove
stark inlet
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yup

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its not even reviewbombed by russians/chinese

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weird

solid adder
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on that

haughty yew
copper monolith
zinc talon
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Morning. How are things going?

hollow hollow
split aurora
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woooow

viral junco
split aurora
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wew

copper monolith
limber wagon
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so this "information war", orchestrated by non-russians requires russians to be jailed up to 15 years?

copper monolith
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5Head but of course!

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shouldn't have not listened to our info 5Head

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⚡️Zelensky addresses the nation: "Today is Saturday but it means nothing. Our country doesn’t have weekends anymore. It doesn't matter what’s on the clock or in the calendar.

And it will be this way until we win."

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⚡️Zelensky: 'I'm sure that soon we will tell our people – come back, it's safe now.'

In his latest address to the nation, Zelensky thanked Poland for welcoming hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians fleeing the war: "We effectively don't have a border with Poland anymore." 🇺🇦🇵🇱

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limber wagon
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I'm honestly kinda curious how Russians are experiencing all of this.

copper monolith
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not that great

limber wagon
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Because I highly doubt they're not notiicing that things are going on. Given all the sanctions, all the protests and all the blocked social media and news sites

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But I dont know what the general consensus and stuff like that is. what the rumours are, how much people know

copper monolith
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the russian propaganda machine is quite good at lying to people that have been fed the same shit for 20 years

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there are some that see through the lies, but many are like "wtf the west sucks for these sanctions cuz we are doing a special op in nazi ukraine"

limber wagon
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Sad if true :(

copper monolith
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like that vid posted here yesterday, where most people strongly support putin and his actions in ukraine when shown photos of people hurt and bombed houses

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insane zombie nation

viral junco
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just a step away from being another north korea

scarlet crown
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Those people are the product of russian propaganda machine

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they just won't think otherwise

limber wagon
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Stuff like that can also really easily be biased

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Selecting or showing only specific people

scarlet crown
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As far as I know, the video val is talking about was made by independent journalists

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they pretty much just came up to random people on the street asking their view on the situation

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from elderly to more younger people

zinc talon
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also, if you look at the protests in russia, most of them are you people & students

scarlet crown
# unreal path
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wowee, look who lied again

copper monolith
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the vid, if anyone wants to get pissed off and slightly lose empathy to the Russian people

copper monolith
scarlet crown
viral junco
copper monolith
zinc belfry
copper monolith
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also overheard dad watching the kremlin funded "talk show" and a guy was shit talking Zelenskyy for being weak and hiding in a bunker instead of going out with a gun, and the Mariupol ceasefire isn't working because the mayor won't allow it

scarlet crown
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There were a lot of rumours yesterday that Zelenskiy fled

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to which all he recorded own video showing that he's still in Kyiv

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plus as far as I know, Mariupol's mayor was an initiator of cease fire, calling for humanitarian corridors

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just another lie from Kremlin

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curses upon those bastards

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Speaking of curses, have you guys heard of Konotop's witches?

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they pretty much cursed russian soldiers with limp dicks lmao

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that guy in red track pants https://t.me/UA_struggle/240 (footage from Melitopol)

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balls of pure steel

copper monolith
scarlet crown
hushed magnet
scarlet crown
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https://zn.ua/ukr/UKRAINE/rosijski-okupanti-zalishili-tsentr-khersona-cherez-protesti-mistsevoho-naselennja.html article today, 2pm
It seems like occupants are leaving centre of Kherson due to protests

Зеркало недели | Дзеркало тижня | Mirror Weekly

В акції протесту проти російських загарбників взяли участь кілька тисяч жителів міста.

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Huge meeting against war in Ukraine

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my true respect

zinc talon
scarlet crown
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Still, he didn't flee abroad like most would say

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He's still in contact with his country and people, and that's what matters

zinc talon
viral junco
split aurora
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🙏

viral junco
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also big talk for an economy that's got a gdp lower than ITALY

viral junco
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like look at this

split aurora
copper monolith
viral junco
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google map yes cringe

clear creek
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How is the Russian economy today

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Where more then a week in

copper monolith
split aurora
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you love to see it

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these workers are doing more then the uk government to sanction. russia

copper monolith
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based

stark inlet
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2 more t90s have been donated today

scarlet crown
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omg RussianArmy_4ever thank you for the 2 t90 donations!! appreciated!!!

stark inlet
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At this point it feels like russia has donated more gear than allied countries

split aurora
scarlet crown
copper monolith
# split aurora

and then all the tractors are driving the other way with their captured tanks lmao

stark harness
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Russia is really getting memed on

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You love to see it

copper monolith
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hm (bbc)

viral junco
copper monolith
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bbc is breaking but lol Aeroflot about to go bankrupt

viral junco
clear creek
copper monolith
viral junco
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huh

copper monolith
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Navalny encouraged people to go and protest soon or something

scarlet crown
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im surprised so many come out even today

clear creek
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How are you ein

scarlet crown
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harsh truth is, they can't just pack everyone

clear creek
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Im gonne prepose a fundraiser to the studend counsel of my school btw who nows

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Maybe we can ease some presure on the normel ukrainian

scarlet crown
# clear creek How are you ein

I'm not staying on the news that much so that helped me calm down for the past few days, slowly trying to return to my usual routines while everything is still calm in my city

stark inlet
copper monolith
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tl;dr yes

stark inlet
viral junco
copper monolith
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dolan dark

stark inlet
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Hell, back when i was 19 my friend's father let me fly a cessna

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Gave me hours of training before that

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At this point it feels like anyone would be better than the mighty vdv

split aurora
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the russian airforce is having a very bad day today

stark inlet
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The russian airforce is having a very bad today

split aurora
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each of those planes costs in the millions, some in the tens of millions

copper monolith
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they're never getting air superiority

viral junco
split aurora
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another plane down

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pilot alive, seemingly not too injured

zinc talon
split aurora
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yep

stark harness
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What’s he gonna do if NATO joins? Piss at them with his “mighty airforce”

split aurora
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wellll considering he threatened nuclear bombs

stark harness
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Or is he gonna send nukes flying and stab everyone including himself in the ass?

split aurora
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theres your answer

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now lets not do this discussion again pls

stark harness
split aurora
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ty

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not meaning to be rude

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chat just keeps turning to it daily :p

stark harness
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MAD exists, end of discussion lmfao

stark harness
stark inlet
copper monolith
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and so it happened

stark inlet
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So they lost their last payment option on steam and similar sites

limber wagon
stark inlet
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Except gift cards

split aurora
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F1 fully yeeted everything russian

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Ruble continues to drop

stark inlet
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Was below 0.0085 for the first time yesterday

split aurora
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western stonks are having a bad week too

scarlet crown
fierce arch
viral junco
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by making payments harder to process it will be harder to buy russian made goods

fierce arch
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is that a good thing

split aurora
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on the upside

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they are still letting russians withdraw money

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which is good

viral junco
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yes if they didnt let withdrawals that would be bad out

split aurora
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but yes I am worried to what degree this will hurt the civilian population

fierce arch
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i keep saying this but all of these just hurt the civilians more than the government

scarlet crown
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oh nooo, our payments

split aurora
scarlet crown
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how horrible

split aurora
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then its bad

fierce arch
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and for a lot of these people

stark inlet
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Noone wants to support russia, its their own choice

split aurora
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I don't know enough about russia to say to what extent this will hit them, and I caution others to do the same

fierce arch
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no amount of sanctions will convince them to revolt against russia

viral junco
fierce arch
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that doesnt make it ok???

split aurora
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It is not morale to target russian civilians

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even while this invasion goes on

stark inlet
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Theyre doomed either way

split aurora
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No it is not.

fierce arch
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but

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its not?

split aurora
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It is not someone fault they are not willing to charge directly at a machine gun to revolt

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Sanctions must be intended to do the maximum damage to the government and oligarchs, and the minimal damage to civilians

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protecting civilian life in russia is as important as in ukraine

scarlet crown
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We can't control it either way, since it's not genuine sanctions, but companies just deciding to close their services

split aurora
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Say the west had the ability to cause a mass famine, in Russia, if it wanted to. Would that be morale? or Right? or just?

scarlet crown
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It is pretty scary if we consider the people with medical needs

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Like insulin

viral junco
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there are certain things that i believe should not be touched such as medicine yes

stark inlet
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Essential goods like medical stuff and food will be shipped

viral junco
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essentials such as that must still flow

stark inlet
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Yup

scarlet crown
split aurora
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And messing with paypal and banks

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threatens this

scarlet crown
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Even today so many people are protesting in Moscow, Petersburg

fierce arch
stark inlet
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Well thats your opinion

scarlet crown
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I can understand people who don't want to risk their life and never cared about Russia or government, but i feel like at times like these it's important to stand your ground

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important to understand that you're not just a cog in the machine, but a person

fierce arch
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if they're not cogs in the machine then why are you advocating for all these sanctions

scarlet crown
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Because not many had still realised that

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Still hadn't realised how full of shit their government is

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And knowing russians, they won't ever budge until something hurts them personally

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So these sort of sanctions can make them think

stark inlet
fierce arch
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i just dont think its gonna work

viral junco
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a famous poem written following the 2nd world war that reminds me of this is "first they came"

stark inlet
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well its your opinion

fierce arch
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its a whole lotta risk

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for an uncertain reward

scarlet crown
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Life is not a contract

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You cannot live without risk and uncertainty

stark inlet
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Not much, companies are just separating themselves from russia just like they dont support e.g. north korea

scarlet crown
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plus I don't think it'd hurt them as much as a literal fucking rocket to your doorstep

stark inlet
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Theyll live, noones gonna die of starvation in russia

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Unlike, well

split aurora
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theres a real starvation risk in russia

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and ukraine

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its not so simple as "nobody will die", or that this won't hurt that much

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theres a real risk sanctions paired with the war could create a mass humanitarian crisis

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if we don't act to prevent it

stark inlet
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I was referring to sanctions/shipping, ukraines food industry is doomed because of the war

split aurora
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and are sanctions gonna make it easier or harder

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to get necessities

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amidst whats already a crisis

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im glad the importing sanctions have excluded food/water/medicine

stark inlet
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Agreed

fierce arch
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TLDR: china is trying to still be friends with russia while still not pissing off the west, who it has incredibly close economic ties to (biggest trading partner of china is the us followed by the eu. japan and south korea are 4th and 6th respectively)

mighty tusk
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morning

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ok but tbh

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wheat bread is my favorite type

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fug.

fierce arch
split aurora
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wow

copper monolith
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man

split aurora
zinc talon
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Based as always. Ukraine leadership threatening the life of thousands of people just to paint Russia in a bad light

split aurora
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President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin stated that if Ukraine "continues to behave like this," it will "endanger the future of its statehood."

"If you resist our annexation, we're going to annex you and it'll be your fault"

viral junco
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"Imagine you're making something in the kitchen and all of a sudden a gunman comes into your home and says "this is our kitchen now", and you respond "what the fuck i'm not even done making pancakes", and they respond "tough shit we claim historical ownership over the kitchen now, stop being upset"

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now to clarify i am not by any means making light of the situation

hushed magnet
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I thought "dont join NATO or we'll invade you" was bad enough lmao

zinc talon
limber wagon
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Oh shit, thats pretty darn good

mighty tusk
icy ridge
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Morning everyone, glad to see Kyiv still standing.... although I did see that Temporary Ceasefire has been agreed then was immediately broken by Russia 😭

viral junco
split aurora
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...what towns

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lmfao

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russia just seems to be spouting bullshit hoping citizens will not have access to any western media to correct it

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is my guess

icy ridge
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Yup

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And with Fashion and Technology being taken away at extremely high rate

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Young Russians are gonna start to revolt

stark inlet
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former polish minister of foreign affairs

icy ridge
# stark inlet

Damn the Hypocrisy, circumventing the banned Laws on Twitter just to spread more lies

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And also Savagery from the MEP

zinc talon
scarlet crown
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it's just smaller towns of much bigger regions

icy ridge
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Hmmm there seems to be inconsistency

scarlet crown
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It's a shame they're occupied (but even then, for a limited time), but it further proves the inability of russian army to achieve their goals

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Like if we speak by their plans, the whole country should've been their's by 6th of march

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and what do we have

zinc talon
split aurora
scarlet crown
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also valid points ^

split aurora
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I don't doubt they could have done, but I'm far more inclined to believe they haven't then they have

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given recent track record

stark inlet
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even then

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capturing =/= keeping it captured

scarlet crown
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exactly

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like it's a matter of time until our forces beat them out of there

split aurora
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iirc both mariupol and mykolaiv

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where claimed to have been captured some days ago

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and they still have ukranian flags firmly flying

stark inlet
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yup

scarlet crown
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same with Kherson today

stark inlet
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wait really

split aurora
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kherson seems to be loosely russian occupied

stark inlet
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oh thats good

scarlet crown
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Yeah no I think I posted about it a bunch today

split aurora
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The ukranian military isn't there, but the Russians don't have any control over the civilian population of the town

scarlet crown
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Yep

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lots of protests

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split aurora
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nice

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we could just do with sanctions on the Russians in London to really hit them hard

zinc talon
split aurora
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The claim

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"we have taken a town"

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requires evidence

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absence of evidence is evidence of absence

zinc talon
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so does saying "no they havn't"

split aurora
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...no

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@zinc talon if I told you that your mother had turned into a sheep

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and gave 0 evidence

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do you have to believe it until you can decisively prove otherwise

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the default position is that your mom is not a sheep

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and it needs evidence to prove the default is not true

scarlet crown
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man this quickly turned into your mom debate

zinc talon
split aurora
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eitherway

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let's not get bogged down

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in other news

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the Israeli president secretly flew out to Moscow to meet with putin

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mildly concerning!

stone vigil
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At least they'll be on the other side of the 30ft table

zinc talon
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point is, people tend to believe news that fit their worldview, leading to people spreading things that havn't been proven. They also are more likely to question and disregard things not fitting into their view.

grizzled steeple
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Anything more substantial than a tweet yet?

split aurora
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the guardian reported on it also

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no details about their meeting

zinc talon
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Leading to people spreading/disregarding stuff without checking them first.

split aurora
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:(

grizzled steeple
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Less tweets, more sources

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Unless it's firsthand accounts

split aurora
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I mean its a fairly reliable source

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tweets are fine if its a decent reliable source

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I think both guardian news + a reliable middle eastern reporter works

zinc talon
#

On 24 February 2022, Russia began a large military invasion of Ukraine, a European country bordering southwestern Russia, in a surprise attack without a declaration of war, marking a steep escalation of a conflict that began in 2014. Several officials and analysts called the invasion the largest conventional military attack in Europe since World...

fierce arch
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could be a good arbitrator

grizzled steeple
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Yes.

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Also, the meeting wasn't "secret"

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Secret implies Netanyahu Bennett was trying to underhand deal with Putin

split aurora
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God the idea of Israel as an arbitrator

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don't like that one

grizzled steeple
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Or wait a minute

fierce arch
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its kinda the best you can get

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at least with these situations

grizzled steeple
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cant say arbitrator without "traitor"

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Jokes aside

fierce arch
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trator

split aurora
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something about Israel, with its horrific disregard for civilians and love for imperialism and war, being arbitrator, just really doesn't sit well with me

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I get its probably the best we can get, but still :/

grizzled steeple
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Probably an Israeli arbitrator bringing together Ukraine and Russia in Poland for a peace deal idk

fierce arch
split aurora
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....

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no

fierce arch
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but that's besides the point

split aurora
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yeah this is tangential so ill shhhh

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if the smart bozos in nato decide to call up Israel, and thats the best idea, so be it

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situation just makes me a bit uncomfortable

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broke shabbat to fly there

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must be important

grizzled steeple
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Something something peace more important than religion

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Or something else

fierce arch
grizzled steeple
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Right today is a saturday

fierce arch
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i assume that applies

split aurora
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so yeah this uh

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must be serious

split aurora
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and ties in with the arbiter idea

scarlet crown
grizzled steeple
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I 100% saw pikachu in the name too lol

fierce arch
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i assume there's some kind of law in judaism that allows for this

split aurora
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yeah thats pikuach nefesh

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that can be interpreted to allow this

grizzled steeple
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Religion is tricky

scarlet crown
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religion is silly

split aurora
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for example say like

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if you're a jewish technician

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you cant work on saturday

grizzled steeple
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free will is a myth, religion is a joke

split aurora
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but if you're called in to say, repair someones dialysis machine

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you CAN do that on saturday

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since that could save their life

grizzled steeple
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Or something like "thou shall not murder"
Unless its in the defense of someone because it could save their life

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I think?

split aurora
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there are only a few exceptions

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Defaming god, certain sexual acts, murder

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are about the only things you cannot do, even if to save a life

stone vigil
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Try to keep in with the topic of Ukraine

grizzled steeple
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Oh yea

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Associated Press confirms Bennett's meeting in Moscow

split aurora
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as does bbc+guardian

copper monolith
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(the guardian)

clear creek
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R/ Ukraine just got privited

copper monolith
leaden grove
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Clearly all of them are more trustworthy than his own generals and ministers

clear creek
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Somone put a bullet in his skull alredy

scarlet crown
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there's some suspicion that this whole scene was drawn on

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look at the microphone (when he bends his fingers, the tip of his pointing finger goes through the mic)

clear creek
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The guy will win rhe nobel peace price

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That murders Putin*

scarlet crown
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when he bends his fingers

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they go through the mic

clear creek
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Did

scarlet crown
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like through cheap green screen

clear creek
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Did he film on a green screen

scarlet crown
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unsure

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but this whole meeting seems very odd

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even the woman sitting like right next to him

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where the hell is she looking at

clear creek
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He heard about us lauging at him for the big tabel so he got all his green underwear together to make a cheap green screan

scarlet crown
# leaden grove

the whole thing just feels like it was taken from the backrooms

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the pillars are odd, those plants seem out of place too

clear creek
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True like in what god dam building in moscow is he filming this

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It issend the kremlin

clear creek
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Sombody get a assasin's teapot to his next tea party

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Also political artists are gonne have a fieldday with this

scarlet crown
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putin's attempt at acquiring bitches

clear creek
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I realy cant think of any way where Putin dies of natural couses now

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Like its gonne be at somone elses hand ore of stress

viral junco
stone vigil
hushed magnet
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like if you go near enough frame by frame you can tell its pretty much just compression that makes it look weird

viral junco
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also

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unrelated but today is the 69th anniversary of stalin's death by stroke

split aurora
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nice

scarlet crown
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nice

hushed magnet
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looks like its putins turn

viral junco
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hopefully his wannabe in chief follows suit

scarlet crown
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most russian rulers did die in march

clear creek
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Niceeee

scarlet crown
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it'd be a shame for Putin to break tradition

split aurora
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uhhh

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this is

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interesting

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ambassadors...?

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ah

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thats it

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certainly one complicated route it has to fly lmfao

stark inlet
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certified chechenya moment

split aurora
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soooo how many are we saying get killed

molten tartan
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Surely Putin can't keep it up for long

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I think what you said about the greenscreen was correct, and he's in some sort of bunker somewhere

split aurora
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OSINT guys calling it too

hushed magnet
molten tartan
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It's just a theory

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in any case, as much as I don't want to wish death on a person

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the death of one man Vs thousands

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of course his death wouldn't confirm the invasion would end but

hushed magnet
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if that person is putin then i definitely want to

molten tartan
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it would definitely nudge it along

split aurora
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in other news, 2 british Eurofighter typhoons blasting their way through romania @ 500knots

hushed magnet
split aurora
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probably gonna be meeting up with this USAF refueler

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central romania

copper monolith
hushed magnet
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looks like stalin got reincarnated huh

copper monolith
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both are extremely similar tbh

copper monolith
copper monolith
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A video from the control room of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant amid Russia’s fire towards the facility.

“Immediately stop fire. You are you endanger the security of the whole world,” the control room says trough loud speakers.

Video: Energoatom. https://t.co/c8klzf3jGc

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good

zinc talon
scarlet crown
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welp

copper monolith
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not good Sadge

zinc talon
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still wouldn't consider this as 100% evidence

scarlet crown
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Eh, better not post if it's not fully confirmed

stone vigil
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Assuming they're referencing the face covered in bandages, it is entirely possible that swelling and other factors can lead the algorithm to be unsure, but since it's images of captured enemy forces, best not to share them

scarlet crown
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they lost like 9 planes today holy fuck

zinc talon
stone vigil
copper monolith
scarlet crown
#
zinc talon
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i get you. Just pointing out. Also the reason why i said it's not 100% confirmed, while still refuting the claim that this is a pilot who flew in syria

copper monolith
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@ nato pls send more AA stuff

zinc talon
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btw. apparently germany sent unusable equipment ..

stone vigil
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source?

copper monolith
stone vigil
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good

zinc talon
copper monolith
#

bruh

copper monolith
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smh germany fix this fuckup, children are dying

zinc talon
scarlet crown
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whatya doin there germany 👀

copper monolith
stone vigil
scarlet crown
# copper monolith <a:CatJAM:739575015716159631> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCYuq6bWTAo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu8m5FA2nL8 This is worth a listen too, bomb remix

#StandWithUkraine

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Andriy Khlyvnyuk, the frontman of top Ukrainian band Boombox (Бумбокс) dropped his tour of the US to defend his country. He was kind enough to l...

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zinc talon
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which is kinda.. meh

stone vigil
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also looking through some of the replies, people who claim to have served in the german military claim that's just the general state of a lot of the weapons, due to bad management

zinc talon
#

yeah thats also true

leaden grove
zinc talon
leaden grove
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Yep

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Generally speaking there’s a lot of mismanagement in the German army

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Which is why I‘m not sure if the extra money will help

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We also barely have any functional civil protection authorities whatsoever

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All they’re gonna do with the money is find ways to buy boots for 1000€ a pair

stone vigil
#

increasing budget could lead to better management, but that's a discussion for another time

leaden grove
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I doubt it

copper monolith
zinc talon
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had to happen at some point.. but how are they paying them?

leaden grove
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They usually pay them in dollars as far as I know

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And I‘m sure the Wagner Group has physical cash reserves

zinc talon
#

still haven't found something on how they are financed though.

leaden grove
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Well, governments usually pay for them, and in this case, the Russian government

zinc talon
#

probably not their only income source though

viral junco
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could be applied to putin

fierce arch
copper monolith
#

fuk i was about to post that after I finished watching

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based wendover

split aurora
#

the amount of people joining both azov and Wagner is concerning!

limber wagon
tired scaffold
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w h a t

zinc talon
hushed magnet
stone vigil
# zinc talon

yes sadly we owe a lot to Russia and thus a lot of people stand with them

split aurora
copper monolith
#

rekt

copper monolith
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so much for "the best military in the world"

zinc talon
#

rly interesting video, thanks for sharing

haughty yew
copper monolith
#

I've noticed things have gotten a bit quiet the past couple days, live news pages getting half of their viewing, and overall less messages here, just a reminder that the war is still as active as in the start, but with even sadder consequences (bbc)

nocturne osprey
copper monolith
leaden grove
copper monolith
#

yeah understandable, constantly paying attention to something as stressful as this can greatly affect mental health

unreal path
leaden grove
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Yeah

copper monolith
zinc talon
#

Have a russian roommate who has one side of his family living in Ukraine and the other in Russia. He's pretty much desperate everytime i see him..

copper monolith
#

what are the views of both sides on this war?

zinc talon
#

Him and his family are pretty liberal, so they are all against it

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Tried to avoid talking about it bcs I can imagine how desperate he must feel

copper monolith
#

yeah...

copper monolith
split aurora
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:/

copper monolith
hushed magnet
stark inlet
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guys

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we're all going to gulag

copper monolith
#

I mean yeah, Russian people living in other countries, including me, shouldn't be shat on, it's a bad way to deal with the situation

stark inlet
#

agreed

stark harness
copper monolith
#

but any treatment the Russians abroad deal with is nothing close to what the Ukranian people are getting on their own land

stark harness
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"special military operation"

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how long are they gonna call it that omg

copper monolith
#

that's what the Russian media wants it to be called, and jail anyone that calls it a war

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as long as that delusional prick can keep it up

stark harness
#

delusional prick is a great way to describe putin

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either that or insecure megalomaniac

copper monolith
#

demented, even, as he's in the ripe age when that may start developing, and looking at how he pretty much forgot that Ukraine had a history

stark harness
#

oof

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brutal

copper monolith
#

probably can't get diagnosed because he doesn't want anyone to get anywhere near him

stark harness
#

oof

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Val that's uhhh, oof, damn, yeah

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true though

hushed magnet
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i mean id call putin a demon, but even demons are meant to be cool

copper monolith
#

I am upset my fam has listened to this man for +20 years

stark harness
#

bruhhhh

copper monolith
#

I don't think the demons would want to hang out with that loser

stark harness
#

If Satan existed and saw Putin, they'd probably go "ew"

hushed magnet
#

holy fuck

copper monolith
#

good god

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this might be bigger than SWIFT

split aurora
#

RIP any russian citizen who didn't withdraw all their cash

fierce arch
#

ok

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thats just excessive

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what the fuck

copper monolith
#

this really do be hitting Putin's oligarchs now

fierce arch
#

its gonna be hitting civilians a lot harder

split aurora
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I worry how fucking much this will hurt daily citizens

copper monolith
#

yeah, the nuclear option without actually using nukes

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it will hurt a lot

fierce arch
copper monolith
stark harness
#

oh my GOD

#

DID THEY ACTUALLY

stark harness
#

holy FUCK that's brutal

copper monolith
scarlet crown
#

awh

copper monolith
# scarlet crown awh

ok I guess I missed the meme cuz I don't use VK, also is this the Russian wiki replacement that the gov wanted to make cuz the real Wiki has too many independent editors

scarlet crown
#

it's less of a vk thing, more of a communication thing really

#

i thought you'd know it

copper monolith
#

😔

#

I'm quite disconnected from the eastern side

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mainly all western stuff

leaden grove
#

I just saw the weirdest propaganda op ever

fierce arch
#

anytime there's something big in the west

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governments try and make a copy of it

leaden grove
#

A bunch of Russian guys wearing black shirts that say "Z" denouncing the anti-war protests and then chanting together

copper monolith
#

either very brainwashed and stupid, or paid

leaden grove
#

Probably paid

hushed magnet
#

why not all 3

viral junco
leaden grove
clear pebble
#

Worst album cover ever

leaden grove
#

The shirt says "#WeDon‘tLetOurPeopleDown" (by people they probably mean soldiers)

copper monolith
#

I've seen vehicles having Z and V drawn on them in white paint, yet I still can't tell what they mean, as non combat vehicles had both letters

tired scaffold
#

Most of them are looking past the camera, there's probably a guy holding up cards with what to say

leaden grove
clear pebble
#

If they support their soldiers so much they should just go and enlist

leaden grove
#

But it begs the question why the guys in the video also have a Z on their shirts

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Cursed frame

copper monolith
leaden grove
#

Lmao yes

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They really chose the worst person for the job

copper monolith
#

also this brings me to remind everyone that the man Putin put in charge of the entire Russian space agency is an actual neo-nazi

viral junco
leaden grove
#

Uhuh

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But I‘ve also read reports of friendly fire so it hasn’t always helped

viral junco
copper monolith
#

@leaden grove

#

hm

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I know I saw emoji flags before, now they're letters

leaden grove
#

In my nickname?

clear pebble
#

🇺🇦

leaden grove
#

Maybe discord is being weird

clear pebble
#

I think Discord doesn't render certain emojis in the username

leaden grove
nocturne osprey
copper monolith
clear pebble
#

Okay so this is supposed to be the RT bidoof

copper monolith
#

what the fuck happened to your nickname

leaden grove
# copper monolith vaguely

He‘s considered to be quite an influential figure when it comes to the military leadership in Russia, and possibly in regard to Putin too

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I think saying that Dugin is a fascist is putting it mildly

clear pebble
leaden grove
clear pebble
#

So yeah Ukraine flag doesn't work properly if you try putting it as a username

leaden grove
#

It works perfectly fine for me

copper monolith
#

wtf

#

when I try using the windows 10 emoji thing, I don't have the flag list

clear pebble
#

Me neither

leaden grove
#

Oof

#

Both of you are on desktop?

clear pebble
#

What browser you on (Am on desktop)

copper monolith
#

yeah desktop

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the discord client lol

leaden grove
#

Smh

copper monolith
#

well I got some cumulative updates ready, I guess I'll find out if that fixes it tomorrow cuz I'm too lazy to restart lol

viral junco
leaden grove
#

Yeah

viral junco
#

i just hope the russian forces who dont want to be there lay down their arms

wind axle
solid adder
#

It works fine for me??

wind axle
#

okay Linux user

copper monolith
fierce arch
#

(cough bd cough cough)

solid adder
fierce arch
#

but yeah sometimes it doesnt render the flags as flags aren't actually special emojis

#

they're just letters

fierce arch
#

put two regional indicators together its kinda neat

clear pebble
#

heh 4 4's

viral junco
copper monolith
fierce arch
#

well

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according to wikipedi

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15,000 people within the ten years

viral junco
#

i meant vehicle wise

copper monolith
#

I do hope this war doesn't last 10 years