the_ukraine_situation

[split aurora]

if those keys pull out their support

he is left with no power sat in his bunker

[leaden grove]

I watched street interviews earlier a fair amount of people simply don’t want to say what they think or just said that they "support whatever he does"

[split aurora]

I don't trust polls or interviews taken in russia

to not have been horrifically altered by the state

[leaden grove]

those were conducted by an independent newspaper and there were people who openly spoke out against him as well

As for TV, you can forget about that

Though I‘d like to take a moment to appreciate the stock broker who was on national TV today

[scarlet crown]

They're barely event interviews, they literally all either say they're for Putin or too afraid to talk themselves out publically

[leaden grove]

He raised a toast to the death of the stock market

[silk iron]

yh that stock broker was hilarious

[leaden grove]

On live TV

Bless the guy

[silk iron]

can't really hide the crash of the stock market

[leaden grove]

Except he probably had a "talk" with the FSB after this stunt

[leaden grove]

The market can’t crash if it doesn’t open 🙃

[split aurora]

it already has

russian stocks are traded on other markets

[leaden grove]

Yeah, but abroad

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/SecMayorkas/status/1499513490389745666?s=20&t=NQKCdzndlE6s3qK1OlRa3Q

Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas (@SecMayorkas)

I am proud to announce that we will be providing Temporary Protected Status — or #TPS — to those Ukrainian nationals who are present in the United States as of March 1, 2022. https://t.co/3tiR29HFJr

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Twitter · Mar 3, 2022, 10:34 PM

[leaden grove]

The Moscow stock exchange is still closed at least until Saturday IIRC

[icy ridge]

Do you think they're gonna actually reopen? I feel like they're gonna delay it again 🤣

[leaden grove]

I think they might reopen "under special conditions"

But like I‘ve said, wait for Putin‘s address tomorrow

[silk iron]

will probably be a 'special economic operation'

[leaden grove]

We‘ll like see some new measures

Someone made a hilarious photoshopped book cover of Tolstoi‘s War and Peace

It just says "Special Operation and Peace"

[silk iron]

lmao

[copper monolith]

my fellow oligarchs russians, I am addressing to u and saying that we are progressing rapidly without any issues whatsoever, and our loss count is still under 500. pwease dont protest

[leaden grove]

"We all know you love our country very much. That‘s why you may not leave from now on. Oh, and don’t worry, if you get bored you can sign up for a forced voluntary vacation in Donetsk!"

[icy ridge]

Didn't he just address the public as "fellow comrades"? in the televised address saying "it's going to plan"

[copper monolith]

dunno

[silk iron]

It's rare for me to wish ill on anyone, but for Putin I'll make an exception. The world would certainly be better off if Putin were to suffer a timely stroke when he's isolated in his private palace, much akin to the circumstances of Stalin's death.

[hushed magnet]

i dont think that really a hot take

i think if you knowingly start an invasion costing hundreds of thousands of people their homes, and costing thousands of lives, you kinda deserve the worst shit back

[silk iron]

The reality is it's extremely unlikely there will be any retribution against Putin for his heinous war crimes.

and it's impossible to meaningfully quantify the massive amount of unnecessary suffering inflicted on the Ukrainian peoples for said retribution anyway.

[hushed magnet]

i mean a bullet could do the trick

[silk iron]

this was the last bloody thing the world needed right after a pandemic which claimed millions of lives.

[hushed magnet]

yep

[silk iron]

paradigm shift after paradigm shift

[hushed magnet]

but i mean, sadly war is kinda just a constant of the world we live in

[silk iron]

it really shouldn't be

certainly not in Europe

they're estimating between 4-6million migrants

[hushed magnet]

i mean it shouldnt be anywhere

[silk iron]

It's not a nice feeling feeling powerless

I suppose if I find way to earn more money I might have some more spare to donate.

But with the economy being screwed by this war, right after we were just starting to recover from the pandemic, there's little leg room for me or others in a similar position to myself to donate to charity.

[icy ridge]

Also what is going on, people are reporting everywhere that Russia is gonna impose Martial Law in or around March 4

[copper monolith]

was mentioned in #872103408285417534 earlier but yeah

Roscosmos losing all their commercial partners lmao

[azure plover]

https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1499535843207389186?s=21

Phil Stewart (@phildstewart)

BREAKING - Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine is on fire, says mayor of local town

Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 12:02 AM

uhhhhhh

https://fxtwitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499539949615558659?s=21

UHHHHHH

[copper monolith]

yeah...

the reactor itself is deep inside the plant, thick concrete walls around it

[azure plover]

[copper monolith]

yes im watching Hasan, but the fire in the administration site

reactors are safe-ish

there's currently tracers flying at the building and it's getting more and more smoky

lol 76k ppl watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUT36YGOh8

[nocturne bobcat]

I'm wondering if Russian forces are just trying to take over the plant to shut down energy resources that are still running in parts of Ukraine

[copper monolith]

probably

[nocturne bobcat]

Complete speculation on my end though

[scarlet crown]

they're really going out their mind, aren't they..

[copper monolith]

hi ein u still awake

oh

[azure plover]

lol if there weren't hockey on right now i'd be doing the same after hearing that news

[copper monolith]

hockey resident sleeper

[split aurora]

ye

the chance of that being penetrated into is exceedingly low

[copper monolith]

[split aurora]

im trying not to be worried about it

[nocturne bobcat]

It's mostly just the active fire that's concerning at this point

I doubt anyone's trying to cause a meltdown, but gunfire + flammable materials = fire and uhhhh

[azure plover]

4WeirdW

[nocturne bobcat]

fire don't give a fuck what your agenda is

[split aurora]

the plant will have extensive internal fire surpresson

[zealous rapids]

Who u watching. The bruins don’t play till 9

[nocturne bobcat]

That's good to know, hope it does enough to mitigate the fire spread

[azure plover]

best we can do is just hope, i guess

[copper monolith]

yeah

[silk iron]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/03/people-leaving-russia-ukraine-war

Might actually have a worse migrant crisis on our hands than feared at first.

Many Russians are leaving or fleeing Russia as well.

however if Russian martial law comes into place on March 4th as suggested by some - many will be stuck in Russia.

[scarlet crown]

they just want their people to suffer even more

good lord

[finite chasm]

It's so depressing to keep following

Like jesus I'd had hoped the world learned lessons

[split aurora]

yeah...

[silk iron]

new generations forget the crimes of the past generations if they aren't taught the lessons of history - or taught distorted agenda filled versions...

[hollow hollow]

i feel like a lot of people have, but unfortunately the man in power in russia and his puppets haven’t

[cerulean canyon]

[finite chasm]

I've been wanting to do a charity stream but I'm just really depressed about it all and I don't know how entertaining I could even make it. I haven't really talked about it on stream for the same reason

[cerulean canyon]

Totally understandable

[split aurora]

yeaaah thats fair

[silk iron]

I think it's your call at the end of the day

[finite chasm]

I know there's a good few folks fundraising already. Most I can say is support their campaigns and get in touch with your government. My Mum went out to a protest bless her

[split aurora]

c:

[copper monolith]

Based rtmom

[cerulean canyon]

Awwwe bless your mom!!

[azure plover]

hasanabi is raising money for ukraine by donating $10 every time he dies in elden ring — he and his community have raised nearly $200k so far. idk if you'd consider something similar? https://events.softgiving.com/donate/HasanAbi-CARE-For-Ukraine

[copper monolith]

Some people playing elden ring do a 1 death = $10 to humanitarian aid

Fuk I've been beaten to it

[azure plover]

lol val 🤝

[cerulean canyon]

XD

[split aurora]

hehe

[finite chasm]

That's actually quite a solid idea and I'd be down yeah. Happy to retroactively count some deaths too

Will look into it more for Sunday's stream. Thanks for that

[azure plover]

it also gives viewers an opportunity to donate on their own accord to add to your total

yeah, of course

[cerulean canyon]

Imagine making it a point to die at all the blood stains you find

[hushed magnet]

damn thats insane

[stark inlet]

oh good god dans gonna go broke if theres radahn 2.0

[split aurora]

All for a good cause 😌

[hollow hollow]

yo vladdy, if you’re gonna kill us all with radiation shit, at least do it the fun way https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russia-ukraine-nuclear-power_n_62215bb5e4b03bc49a9875c0

[stark inlet]

yeah theres a livestream

[hushed magnet]

back the depressing mood

[copper monolith]

Anyways time to go to sleep and hope I don't wake up to a worse Chernobyl Слава Україні!

[stark inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUT36YGOh8

[split aurora]

Goodnight valentin, sleep well

[scarlet crown]

Слава Україні!

[hushed magnet]

imma also sleep tbh, hopefully things go ok overnight

Слава Україні!

[silk iron]

gn

[scarlet crown]

The sirens are blaring pretty loud right now

[molten tartan]

Only slightly terrified of chernobyl: the sequel RN

[azure plover]

comprehensive list of various charities organized by topic, if anyone's interested https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/s6g5un/want_to_support_ukraine_heres_a_list_of_charities/

[stark inlet]

been listening to gorillazs clint eastwood the whole day

just because of that one clip of people hijacking a military transmission with that song

[copper monolith]

Yeah in Kyiv independent Odesa was one if the cities where sirens are going off rn

[azure plover]

man

[scarlet crown]

It's odd because I haven't heard them being this loud before

[copper monolith]

Prob one set up near u

[scarlet crown]

I think they're off now

[molten tartan]

By the way

[copper monolith]

Stay safe

[molten tartan]

were the BBC reports that Belarusian troops were ordered to attack today true?

any news?

[copper monolith]

Haven't seen anything about it other than that small report

[zealous rapids]

U didn’t say it

You need to say the may kyiv still stand in the morning

[copper monolith]

But at this point they've pretty much just merged with the other occupants

[azure plover]

val i have a stupid question

[zealous rapids]

You’ve said it every time before you’ve slept you have to say it again

[azure plover]

can you understand ukrainian to a degree since it's also in cyrillic?

[copper monolith]

Yes

[azure plover]

interesting ty

[zealous rapids]

U have to say the may kyiv still stand in the morning

[azure plover]

have a good night

[zealous rapids]

You usually say good night may kyiv still stand in the morning

[copper monolith]

May Kyiv stand in the morning

[zealous rapids]

Better

Goodnight

[stark inlet]

[copper monolith]

May the npps reactors not get blown to smithereens too lmao

[hollow hollow]

i feel like killing zelensky could seriously backfire on russia. ukraine already has enough martyrs to rally their people, but zelensky biting the bullet would take it to a whole new level

[stark inlet]

time to buy some lugol's

just in case

[icy ridge]

Moldova and Georgia following Ukraine have sent their official request to join the EU

[silk iron]

It would cause instability and confusion in Ukraine if Zelensky was assassinated - however it wouldn't demoralise the Ukrainian people, in fact likely the opposite.

[stark inlet]

huh, its already above other searched things on our local polish ebay

[molten tartan]

let's hope the Russians have some common sense and don't continue to shoot a fucking nuclear reactor.

[stark inlet]

coolant/washing/etc liquids

[scarlet crown]

I think the outlash would be so big that we'd actually break occupant lines lmao

It'd still be a great loss

[silk iron]

either way it's very unlikely Zelensky will be assassinated, when UK and US intelligence is tracking a lot of Russian subterfuge.

[scarlet crown]

Yup ^

[stark inlet]

also that polish ebay site did a neat thing, whenever you check out and open the cart site theres an option to throw in 10-20pln for ukrainian charities, like its right next to proceed to payment

and with these little 10-20pln donations the website has already collected uh

almost 5mil

[icy ridge]

I have actually lost so much sleep ever since the headline of "War in Europe" came onto my screen, just constant small nightmares of what may happen, but also of good dreams of the Ukrainians successfully defending their nation. I think everyone here has been basically watching the news 24/7 non stop and nothing else (except for those who have managed to take a break from all of this...) 😢

[split aurora]

wow

[silk iron]

sometimes ignorance is actually bliss

[split aurora]

thats great

[silk iron]

remember to take a break now and then

i'm trying to work out what is going on with the Zaporizhzhia NPP skirmishes.

[icy ridge]

Yup thankfully I'm slowly getting there.....but the sense of Fomo on the latest info is still high in me

[stark inlet]

yup

same

this thing is permanently open

[silk iron]

It's perfectly understandable being depressed with the ongoing devastation and chaos.

I myself have lost sleep over it

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/tribdinosaur/status/1496707084972597255?t=bdsS3MklOR09YAS5IJ3rRg&s=19

Ant Boy / ant smoocher (@tribdinosaur)

Stop doomscrolling. Stop doomscrolling right now.

Maybe you need a drink, or a bathroom break. Maybe you need a snack, or you wanna catch up with a friend.

You can donate too to humanitarian aid for Ukraine, if you're able. Anything is better than doomscrolling endlessly.

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Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 4:42 AM

[stark inlet]

agreed, one video i saw broke me and now i generally avoid anything nsfw

[silk iron]

but remember to look after yourself - you losing sleep helps no one.

[icy ridge]

Alongside with all of us having multiple channels or screens of different news, telegram and Kyiv independent

Open at the same time

[silk iron]

optimising doom scrolling i see

[icy ridge]

??????

[stark inlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t66883/russian_army_broadcast_in_order_to_preserve_peace/ oh no

tommorows gonna be an interesting day

[silk iron]

not sure what is going on exactly with Zaporizhzhia NPP - unfolding as we speak

[stark inlet]

https://www.npp.zp.ua/en/safety/arms huh

you can monitor radiation levels interesting

[split aurora]

remember guys when monitoring it, dont forget units

[icy ridge]

Sadly this link doesn't load :(

[stark inlet]

it does

[icy ridge]

Like it's stuck

[split aurora]

if i say something has 100,000 radiation that sounds badm but if thats nanosiverts thats only a chest xray worth

[stark inlet]

load it a bit and hit that cancel button

[split aurora]

if thats 100,000 Sieverts, bye bye europe

[stark inlet]

or whatever its called

this thing

[split aurora]

imma go bed

[stark inlet]

chechens?

[silk iron]

gn

[stark inlet]

christ

[silk iron]

yes the chechens

[scarlet crown]

yes

Kadyrov's been acting very cocky

[split aurora]

lets hope he gets a bloody nose here

[silk iron]

well the chechen paramilitaries aren't exactly disciplined

they fight for 'glory'

[scarlet crown]

telling Putin he should negotiate with Zelenskiy to "solve this all in a matter of half an hour"

[split aurora]

...aka he's gonna hide a gun in his pocket

lmao

[stark inlet]

yyyyeah ill need that lugol's

[scarlet crown]

this is the only time when i am actually afraid that the translation is correct

[icy ridge]

Blackmail using Nuclear items???

[scarlet crown]

it seems to be their goal at the moment, we have to wait for updates

[icy ridge]

How would you even blackmail Europe like that?

[split aurora]

I mean

[scarlet crown]

I mean probably the same way that nuclear weapon can be used as a threat

[split aurora]

blackmail with that is the same as blackmail with a bomb

ye

expect the plant can do a lot less harm

and will do as much harm to russia as it does anywhere else

the more pressing matter is that its gonna hit ukraines energy

ukraine is hooked up to the entire European grid now, though

so that's just a case of france/germany etc. burning a bit more gas

well, not "a bit"

thats a significant amount of power to replace

[scarlet crown]

the more pressing matter is if they actually will take over the plant

if they do, it's pretty much over

[split aurora]

how is it over...?

[scarlet crown]

no one wants a second chernobyl so they'll be free to set ultimatums again

[stark inlet]

chechens playing csgo irl

[split aurora]

not really

its the same as threatening a nuclear strike

causing a nuclear incident on purpose there is an attack on nato members

using nuclear technology as a weapon

[scarlet crown]

makes sense

sorry if i can't fully put the thought in, i'm pretty tired

[split aurora]

course putins anything but rational atm

yeah no worries friend

[stark inlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t674y1/regarding_the_nuclear_power_plant_at_zaporizhzhia/

[scarlet crown]

Immediate speech from president Zelenskiy regarding the plant
He asks the Europe to wake up, because russian tanks have heat visors and they know where to aim. No one wants a second chernobyl, so he encourages everyone outside from Ukraine to inform their governments of this happening. He's already been on call with many other leaders, saying that this has to end, for it's the first time in history when a country shoots at nuclear plants of another

[silk iron]

there's conflicting news sources about the Zaporizhzhia NPP

what is known is the Russians seek to take the power plant as a strategic objective

[stark inlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t67ho9/be_wary_of_deep_fakes_an_example_of_what_the/

[scarlet crown]

True, so it's better to keep waiting for now

[icy ridge]

Hopefully he has called western world leaders personally already on this matter

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/588

my fucking god

[cerulean canyon]

!!!!

[icy ridge]

Holy fuck

Basically to the surrounding regions....is this gonna be another Chernobyl?

If efforts fail?

[fierce arch]

no

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/590 here's the full translated script

[icy ridge]

Oh.....but didn't the president say it would be the end of Europe if it's explodes?

[fierce arch]

well for one chances are its not gonna explode

and two

it will not be the end for europe

i can say that

[cerulean canyon]

It's on fire though and people are having a hard time putting it out

Like

[fierce arch]

nuclear power plants are like

they have so many failsafes

[cerulean canyon]

We can't underestimate nuclear accidents

[icy ridge]

This!!!

[scarlet crown]

easy to say when you're not living in the radius

[icy ridge]

Fukushima is one, though it was mostly due to insane flooding of the tsunami

[cerulean canyon]

^

[fierce arch]

https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/fire-protection-fs.html

[fierce arch]

fukushima was actually mostly just panic

rather than radiation

[cerulean canyon]

Okay but an article was shared above about how assistance is needed before things get more out of hand....
https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/588

I don't know if you saw this but

I'd read it

[icy ridge]

Yes but even with all the failsafes one can never be too hilly Billy, you must do your best to take out the fire as much as possible

And not just let it spread waiting for it to die

[cerulean canyon]

Absolutely

[scarlet crown]

wait weren't you the same person who said one nuke wouldn't end the whole world

[cerulean canyon]

^

[icy ridge]

WHAT

[fierce arch]

yes?

[azure plover]

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1499568908202049542

AFP News Agency (@AFP)

#BREAKING Ukrainian authorities say safety of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is now secured, after a fire broke out when the station came under fire from invading Russian forces.

"The director of the plant said that the nuclear safety is now guaranteed": Oleksandr Starukh https://t.co/J8bk142GLY

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 2:14 AM

?

[icy ridge]

Oh thank god

[fierce arch]

come and go

[icy ridge]

That was fast?

[azure plover]

no, i'm asking

timestamp wise

[scarlet crown]

4:14, pretty late

[azure plover]

mine was from a half hour ago, ein's is from four minutes ago. was theirs just translated and posted that recently?

[icy ridge]

No

[azure plover]

like, is mine the most recent, but the translation only came up so quickly?

[icy ridge]

The news

Is coming in now

Everyone is reporting from the last 5 mins

[scarlet crown]

Nobody can be sure at the moment

we just have to wait and hope for the best

[azure plover]

right, but they're just reposting that translation

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1499574746312511489

AFP News Agency (@AFP)

#BREAKING Ukraine says 'essential' equipment at nuclear plant not affected by fire, reports IAEA https://t.co/gsz5YxeUCN

Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 2:37 AM

10 minutes ago

[fierce arch]

im just saying only reason chernobyl was so bad was because literally every fucked up and all the safety measures failed

[icy ridge]

Ein what's the status in the telegram channels?

[fierce arch]

so if this blows up

it will not be nearly as bad as chernobyl

[cerulean canyon]

Effects of Chernobyl are still felt though to this day is the thing so like

[scarlet crown]

it's very mixed, one say it's secured, one say it's not, I'm really not sure

[icy ridge]

Chernobyl has one , President says this one has 6 soooo

[fierce arch]

again

chernobyl basically spat out literally every bit of radiation it had in it

[scarlet crown]

this is just the "one nuke won't do anything" discussion all over again

[azure plover]

https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1499546516293357568

Mark Nelson (@energybants)

Just so everybody knows: the statement that "if it blows up, it will be 10 times larger than Chornobyl", is absolute nonsense.

This is a bad situation because it is an attack on a nuclear plant with people in it, not because it can "blow up" and be "larger than Chornobyl".

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 12:45 AM

don't know if this was posted already but

[fierce arch]

^^^^^^^^^^

[azure plover]

(thread under it)

[scarlet crown]

It wasn't, so that's relieving

[marsh marsh]

Great quantities of people who know nothing about the topic replying to this thread

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/591

[tender canyon]

holy shit

[scarlet crown]

Ok finally clearer updates: https://t.me/verkhovnaradaukrainy/7497
The firefighters are finally let in
There's no radiation leak
It's also noted that the energoblock is near impossible to blow up (thankfully)
The fire is being extinguished at the administrative zone of the plant

[severe forge]

Hold on, they are shelling a nuclear power plant

[cerulean canyon]

Yupppp

[severe forge]

Who in their right mind approved that

[icy ridge]

https://youtu.be/qDb9UQKiX2c

[clear pebble]

I mean if you disregard the very not-good-for-you radioactive material, it makes sense to attack the enemy's power supply

And Putin has demonstrated the ease at which he will sacrifice his citizens in pursuit of whatever crazy idea occupies his head at the time

[clear creek]

Morning plz tell me a second chernobyl is not happening

[stone vigil]

@clear creek

[icy ridge]

New BBC Coverage Page : https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60532634

Oh hell no

[stone vigil]

Fucking bastards

[severe forge]

It's definitely FUBAR

[stone vigil]

They deserve to rot in hell

[icy ridge]

Holy fuck what plane is that?

[split aurora]

AN225

worlds largest plane

only one of its class ever built by the USSR

[limber wagon]

This is incredibly sad

[clear pebble]

Rest in peace sweet plane

[icy ridge]

Oh my god rest in peace 😢

[severe forge]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SavunmaSanayiST/status/1499637810134925320

SavunmaSanayiST.com (@SavunmaSanayiST)

⚡️An-225 Nakliye Uçağının yakın plan görüntüleri: https://t.co/V3gG8fJbZr

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 6:48 AM

[split aurora]

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1499340841239859200/pu/vid/1280x720/pYy0xl9I5pBZPPIj.mp4?tag=12

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/AlinaLeonovaSF/status/1499457928562102274?t=aF7jA4OdT4jixcO_WeEYsg&s=19

Alina Leonova (@AlinaLeonovaSF)

I'm Belarusian. Seeing more and more hate against Belarusians as a result of Lukashenko's participation in Putin's atrocious war against Ukraine, I have a few things to say.

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Twitter · Mar 3, 2022, 6:53 PM

^ This is good

[copper monolith]

based as fuck thread

[copper monolith]

bitch is blaming the Ukranian army for abandoning the airport and then shelling it, god damn Channel One

[copper monolith]

lmaoooo

(bbc)

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499644967278596098?s=20&t=ZXWU9wRZBCe7uT6jTNuJuw

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

Indicative estimates of Russia's losses as of March 4, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. https://t.co/d5NbS3A6aP

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 7:16 AM

[stark inlet]

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-calls-russia-invasion-of-ukraine-holocaust-big-shift-2022-3?IR=T

lmao

[copper monolith]

lol

[hushed magnet]

Guess he realised supporting war criminal dictators will only give you so much support

[copper monolith]

we're about to see the American right go from worshipping Putin and blaming Biden for the war to telling Biden to do more to stop the dictator

[hushed magnet]

I hope so

[copper monolith]

(bbc)

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/mrsorokaa/status/1499686567669125127?t=ejfd7vgNDF2BLG_gleAJYA&s=19

Oleksiy Sorokin (@mrsorokaa)

⚡️Occupied regional capital Kherson is going full Orwell today.

Russians seized the local TV tower & began airing Russian propaganda networks. Now, SBU says they are moving in people from Crimea to stage a scene where Russian troops are greeted as “liberators.”

“War is Peace.”

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 10:01 AM

😬

[copper monolith]

what the fuck

[split aurora]

Welp, khersons gonna be the first and last city to agree to surrender

[hushed magnet]

What the fuck

[copper monolith]

the dark web rises (the guardian)

[white locust]

Huh that's actually a really clever use of the dark web

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499697685070237696?s=20&t=M7lQXJMA3T6y4ig--jdhqA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ 47 people killed in attack on Chernihiv.

38 men and nine women were killed by Russia's airstrikes of residential areas on March 3, according to the Ukrainian government. 18 people were injured.

Chernihiv is a city of 285,000 people, located north of Kyiv.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 10:46 AM

[zinc talon]

meaning reporting the truth is going to be prosecuted

[copper monolith]

yeah, the remaining independent news agencies (like Dozd) have had to close down already

[split aurora]

the BBC is using shortwave radio in ukraine/the Russian border

Good luck tryna block that one out

Best they can do is try to jam it

[zinc belfry]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499705510391599107?t=55R1nCawSSCRXp4lOPPRTQ&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Ukraine asks Red Cross to organize humanitarian corridors for people in the cities and villages hit by the Russian attack.

"Thousands need urgent evacuation. There is a lack of food, water, medicine, no light, or water supply," the President's Office said.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 11:17 AM

[stark inlet]

a friend of mine works at the uni i graduated from

told me that there are already problems with international students causing trouble, because russian and ukrainian students have their dorm rooms on the same floor

[copper monolith]

[zinc belfry]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499706898123214851?t=RVHdjh3Skn5evSJw7ya3fQ&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

Antonov An-225 Mriya, the biggest aircraft in the world, before and after the Russian forces' attack on Ukraine.

The plane was destroyed by fighting at the Antonov airfield in Hostomel near Kyiv.

Photos: AFP, https://t.co/8uDXCLZ0dx military news site. https://t.co/vkinL0ljKP

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 11:22 AM

i will just be updating on this account when it posts, when i can

[zinc talon]

depends on the people i guess. I have both russian and ukrainian dormmates who are just deeply troubled and saddened

[stark inlet]

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1499697303854239746

Euromaidan Press (@EuromaidanPress)

"And in the Kyiv Zoo, a lemur was born, which was named Bayraktar (Turkish strike drone used by the Ukrainian army, - EMP)," Kyiv mayor says.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 10:44 AM

[zinc talon]

https://twitter.com/CurrentTimeTv/status/1499475364078366729

Настоящее Время (@CurrentTimeTv)

Мы показали россиянам фотографии из Украины, на которых видны разрушенные российскими бомбами города и жертвы обстрелов. И вот какая была реакция: https://t.co/W4BV32mZuV

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Twitter · Mar 3, 2022, 8:02 PM

"We showed the Russians photographs from Ukraine showing cities destroyed by Russian bombs and shelling victims. And here is the reaction"

[stark inlet]

ja za putina

yup

[zinc talon]

only have a transcript of this at hand, but basic points seem to be:
Don't want to see it
Putin wouldn't do it
Putin knows what he does
Ukraine would've attacked us first
West is at fault
I'm against war
I'm scared to answer
[would be nice if someone could confirm]

[split aurora]

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-sell-nfts-war-costs-crypto-donations-bitcoin-ethereum-putin-rusiia-invasion-100421655.html

this world is a meme

[haughty yew]

That has to be fake

[hushed magnet]

i found a translation in the replies, no idea how accurate it is, but that basically covers it tbh

which is sad af

[copper monolith]

I'm less than a min in and idk if I want to watch further, jesus

[zinc talon]

relatable

[copper monolith]

"pwease dont impose sanctions on me" (bbc)

[hushed magnet]

"no need to make our relations worse"

thats a step down from "we dont need diplomacy with the west" or whatever they said before

[copper monolith]

or step up

I think it's slowly getting to him

like, very slowly

[hushed magnet]

honestly thats what it sounds like

[zinc talon]

"we have no ill intentions against our neighbours"

[copper monolith]

also putin: "ukraine is a brother nation to us"

[hushed magnet]

a few days ago he was threatening "consequences never seen" against anyone daring to support ukraine

[copper monolith]

for him it's always opposite day, so whatever he says, always know that it's the opposite

[hushed magnet]

now the most he can say apparently is "pwease we dont mean any harm i swear"

[zinc talon]

you know how it is with brothers, sometimes you fight and tease each other.. Thats how we show love

[stone vigil]

I wonder how much info putin is actually getting locked in his bunker, what if his generals are too scared to tell him how shit the war is going?

[copper monolith]

I love my brother, that's why I bomb him 😂

[hushed magnet]

yeah sometimes you just need to shell your brothers

[copper monolith]

good question tbh

[stone vigil]

Sounds like most siblings

[split aurora]

hahaha

[copper monolith]

otherwise, despite everyone seeing what he's saying, he's mostly trying to keep his ignorant nation in check, constantly feeding rotten blood soaked shit while cutting off any alternative source

[viral junco]

https://www.joe.ie/news/zelensky-assassination-attempts-743645?utm_content=buffer478fb&utm_medium=Social+organic&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer

[copper monolith]

i wish to shave Kadyrov's beard

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499710859714744320?s=20&t=SVZ8qWfwFSKKb2J8wfWalQ

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Panasonic suspends transactions with Russia.

The Japanese electronic conglomerate also decided to donate $173 million to the Polish Red Cross to help Ukrainian refugees at the border and to Peace Winds Japan, an NGO providing assistance to Ukraine.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 11:38 AM

[hushed magnet]

i mean id say id doubt his generals would risk lying to him, but tbh it'd probably be them who would pay if they told him bad news

[viral junco]

Also russia banned the bbc

[zinc talon]

probably glad the table is this long and they don't have to shake hands

[viral junco]

But the BBC responded by putting it on the dark web

[tawny dawn]

https://youtu.be/o9A-u8EoWcI

I think they're always a bit nervous speaking to him now

[Video of Russian head spy speaking to putin]

[hushed magnet]

yup

[copper monolith]

I remember this, Putin really didn't want the guy to be too obvious

(bbc) cc: @unreal path

[viral junco]

Putin glamorised stalin, hopefully we get to the part of him choking on his puke and dying in his own piss soon

[copper monolith]

with how paranoid he seems with his generals, do you think he also doesn't want his own medical staff to get too close

[viral junco]

Probably

[hushed magnet]

im guessing thats how stalin died?

[zinc talon]

you'd think that, when the whole world turns against you, you start to ask whether you are doing something wrong

[viral junco]

Translation: help

Hopefully we cut out all Russian imports soon

Make the economy hurt further and drive the ruble down even harder

[viral junco]

Yes, of a stroke

[copper monolith]

yes

he wouldn't allow his own medical staff in

[viral junco]

He didn't let his soldiers in, and he killed all the best doctors in Russia because they were jewish

So the soldiers heard it and left it for 2 days

Right out of the door

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1497924614865002497

НГУ (@ng_ukraine)

Azov fighters of the National Guard greased the bullets with lard against the Kadyrov orcs👊

Бійці Азова Нацгвардії змастили кулі салом проти кадировських орків👊

Підписуйтесь на наш телеграм канал https://t.co/SBQltMr4bM https://t.co/A1ci7tZL8r

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Twitter · Feb 27, 2022, 1:20 PM

jesus fucking christ

islamaphobic bastards

fuck sake ukraine

[hushed magnet]

tbf, this is azov we're talking about

idk what more youd expect from a far right militia

[split aurora]

the fact azov is allowed to exist

is fucked up

[split aurora]

hence no likes/comments/retweets

[zinc talon]

wtf.. new low

[hushed magnet]

oh wow thats the ukraine national guard?

jesus

[split aurora]

Thats azov, part of the Ukrainian army

[hushed magnet]

i meant the twitter account

[split aurora]

putting lard on bullets as its unholy to Muslims

also quite possibly a war crime

[hushed magnet]

like this aint a good look against russias claims

[split aurora]

(probably a war crime)

I mean ignoring russias claims this is extremely fucked up in and of itself

[hushed magnet]

well yeah ofc

[split aurora]

and these bastards should be tried alongside Russians at the hague

[copper monolith]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-60613863

[hushed magnet]

jesus

[copper monolith]

mm... https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499719872544137220?s=20&t=Xt_DYx_vDnaSE4RgImuRmQ

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Lithuanian PM: 'Calls for NATO no-fly zone in Ukraine are irresponsible.'

"I believe that all encouragements for NATO to get involved into the military conflict now are irresponsible," Ingrida Simonyte told a news conference in Vilnius, according to Reuters.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 12:14 PM

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499716412595658756?s=20&t=Xt_DYx_vDnaSE4RgImuRmQ

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Ukraine's military: Russia exhausted most of its operational reserve in Ukraine.

Russia has begun transferring troops from its Southern and Eastern Military Districts to replenish its ranks, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 12:00 PM

"Let's be realistic and believe in our army!" "reality" and "manipulation" https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1499123344045707266?s=20&t=SuRtQL2w46kYJs2Ir-Y5kg

НГУ (@ng_ukraine)

Будьмо реалістами і віримо в свою армію! https://t.co/RPY3JXovoZ

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Twitter · Mar 2, 2022, 8:43 PM

man... (bbc)

[stark inlet]

had to check it myself lmao

cp77 reviews graph

[solid adder]

yea

space engineers and factorio also got review bombed for supporting

[limber wagon]

Multiple games got review bombed

[solid adder]

ets2 a little I think?

they're doing a thing to support ukraine

[coral idol]

Bruh not Cyberpunk 😭
Hasn't that game gotten beaten up enough

[limber wagon]

Steam has build in protection against review bombing iirc

[solid adder]

yes

[stark inlet]

lmao

[coral idol]

Wait huh

[solid adder]

ets 2

[copper monolith]

based

[stark inlet]

doing my part o7

[copper monolith]

[nocturne osprey]

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1499714107553030147?t=2DdIjUaVpr5JXo2yXXO-4Q&s=19

Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa)

I welcome the establishment by the #UN Human Rights Council of the International Commission of Inquiry to investigate facts of Russian war crimes against Ukraine. Evidence will be documented and used in international courts. Russian war criminals will be held accountable.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 11:51 AM

[fierce arch]

what happened

[solid adder]

what

[stark inlet]

chinese trolls happened

[copper monolith]

more like russian

[stark inlet]

also russian

[copper monolith]

the devs came out in support of Ukraine

[coral idol]

Apparently NATO has started a cooperation mission with Finland and Sweden with sharing crucial information between each other, and they will join in on crucial NATO meetings for the foreseeable future

[copper monolith]

👀

swedes and fins in nato when

[stark inlet]

🙏

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499728456879382533?s=20&t=n3TYF8pkF5Ww-viCBuGfRQ

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Poll: 82% of Ukrainians believe in victory against Russia.

Source: Survey by Gradus research company

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 12:48 PM

[coral idol]

HAHA I heard a person in the press conference questioning for Jens Stoltenberg refer to Putin as "Putler"

[copper monolith]

facts

https://twitter.com/annmarie/status/1499688245508120580?s=20&t=ii_jI-ONN1R0knRw0HY2cw

annmarie hordern (@annmarie)

🚨 The Russian stock market will be closed to trading until at least next Wednesday. The Moscow Exchange says trading across all markets will be shut March 5, 7 and 8.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 10:08 AM

https://twitter.com/GeneralStaffUA/status/1499664217770704896?s=20&t=ii_jI-ONN1R0knRw0HY2cw

Генеральний штаб ЗСУ (@GeneralStaffUA)

У Житомирі російські війська нанесли удар по 25-ій школі.
In Zhytomyr, Russian troops struck at the 25th school. https://t.co/7d0cAwzHb3

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 8:33 AM

[scarlet crown]

yet another school destroyed

fucking barbarians

[copper monolith]

"🥴 but it's a military object cuz some of the soldiers studied there in their childhood"

[finite sable]

Ah yes

"A few doctors went to my middle school so it's technically a medical university"

[copper monolith]

(bbc)

[mighty tusk]

you can buy official ukraine nfts as a method of donation if you'd like now

[copper monolith]

nfts are morally wrong and there are better ways to support them

[mighty tusk]

yes

[stark inlet]

wait did russians again sent VDV to capture Hostomel without providing any ground support

i just cant

[copper monolith]

did they

[split aurora]

hahahaha

I feel bad for russian paratroopers

for an entire week theyve been sent in alone and got massacred

[stark inlet]

dunno if its recent or taken after the first attempt

[mighty tusk]

is this the first war that is relevant to western culture that's been broadcasted on social media actually? with many world leaders talking about it and keeping us posted

[copper monolith]

I'm gonna have to delete that because... yeah

[stark inlet]

oh right my bad soz

[copper monolith]

but christ almighty

[mighty tusk]

(I say the specification of relevant to western culture because there has been ofc a lot of war, just not one that has been broadcasted nearly as much here since the rise of the internet)

[coral idol]

A lot of wars are talked about, but this is probably the most talked about war in recent memory besides Israel/Palestine

[mighty tusk]

oh yeah that one too my b

im a dumbass lmao

[zinc talon]

imagine. Now everyone with access to internet can get all the information about whats happening without waiting a day for a ~1h news coverage

[copper monolith]

this kind of reaction, online and internationally should happen for every war that ever happens

[zinc talon]

true

[mighty tusk]

to be frank, I do think some stuff is taking this wayy too far over here

[split aurora]

I mean there's also Palestine which is continually on social media but everyone ignores that one

[mighty tusk]

like no, putin is not hitler

what

every war is really shit

i was surprised this one hit us so hard over here culturally

esp. when we've instigated many wars

[split aurora]

I mean hes invading foreign nations and committing ethnic cleansing, he's not hitler but I can definitely see the resemblance

[mighty tusk]

yeah agreed

[split aurora]

its a classic hyperbole

[zinc talon]

people tend to compare everything to hitler and the nazis bcs it's one of the most abhorrent thing in recent history

[mighty tusk]

true true

though over here we tend to forget that

for quite a few countries, we (USA) are the most terrifying thing to happen to them in a while lol

that's what somewhat irks me over here in america

[finite sable]

God that just reminds me of a bullshit thing someone in a Southern state tried to pass about nazis.

[mighty tusk]

no self-awareness

we have been being really shit neighbors, instigators of war, really bad people to so many places and now the moment another big country does a bad, they are the ultimate evil and we are still the good guys

when we're both pretty much the bad guys internationally

[copper monolith]

what the fuck (her full story https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60600487 )

[mighty tusk]

(if you don't live in USA, nothing I said right now applies or really matters, apologies)

killing civilians has always been justified in war

unfortunate

cruel

but they can just take the excuse we all concocted in WWII i suppose

[finite sable]

It's fucked

[mighty tusk]

"Every civilian technically helps the army. They are all targets"

that is how it goes in wartime .-. i hate it

[split aurora]

honestly yeah this war in ukraine really isn't any worse then the ward the west has got upto in the last 2 decades

I'm just glad this one is getting the proper attention and response it deserves

[zinc belfry]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499738027391868934?t=k6iaKQEpLHxjuV7BOSE24A&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko said on TV that his country isn't participating or planning to participate in Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

If Belarus joined the war, it would be a 'gift' to the West, he added.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 1:26 PM

[mighty tusk]

yep

[copper monolith]

🤨

[zinc talon]

#946434082462650428 message pretty much sums it up.

[mighty tusk]

all wars should get this treatment

[zinc belfry]

?

[copper monolith]

to his "gift to the west"

[zinc belfry]

oh

[copper monolith]

was about to link it too lol

[mighty tusk]

my response to jim is simple

[zinc belfry]

haha

[mighty tusk]

we wont become better based on this

this isnt the first time the west has had this sort of response but it's only when it's something 100% unambiguously evil by other countries

[split aurora]

God i can't wait for the day lukashenko and putin are both out of office

preferably driven out at the barrel of a gun

[mighty tusk]

it is in fact fine to criticize the fact that especially americans have no self awareness with this and are in fact pretending they are actually anti war when we dont give a shit usually

this is not some "character development"

[zinc talon]

i agree with you, but the thing is, you can't use bad actions of others to justify your own ones

[mighty tusk]

im not making my own bad actions

im also not justifying russia

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499738603676708865?s=20&t=lvGEoN47-ngXTGn1MNo6ZQ

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

In the face of great adversity, Ukrainians showed unprecedented unity.

We talked to volunteers across the country who are helping fellow Ukrainians, as Ukraine continues to defend its land from the Russian aggression.

https://t.co/rWDjbEXHT8

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560

Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

[mighty tusk]

im saying my fellow americans should sit down

take a fucking class for once

pay attention

and actually learn something

[finite sable]

Damn

[split aurora]

Criticising russia is good, but is worthless without also sitting down and reviewing how we act.

[zinc belfry]

not american, but i think that could apply to everyone haha

[split aurora]

yep

[mighty tusk]

learn our past and how we have actively fucked up many countries, done coups regularly, done passive aggressive trade wars, and taken over many countries unofficially

thats my take

[untold raven]

As my history teacher said "there's always a surge of nationalism during times of war"

[mighty tusk]

that is in fact true

mutual struggling is the ultimate cure to hate or personal disapproval

it's the ultimate equalizer, in a way

in a fucked up way

idk

maybe what i just said doesnt make sense

[finite sable]

I've been struggling to follow what you're saying ngl but I'm just one of those stupid Americans so

[mighty tusk]

im a fellow stupid american, we all have a lot to learn

[fierce arch]

wouldnt be surprised if they did join

[mighty tusk]

the main thing is: we are currently and have been fucking up many countries even in the past 50 years

we should also pay attention to these things and right our wrongs as we call out other countries for being instigators of war, general imperialism

all imperialism and instigation on the world stage should equally be shamed

\o/ that is my take

[split aurora]

Good take

[zinc talon]

thanks for sharing! couldn't agree more

[mighty tusk]

thanks for reading

i know im a random dumbass on the internet, lol

[zinc belfry]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499739929831784449?s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

A Russian Sukhoi Su-34 fighter jet shot down earlier today near the city of Volnovakha in eastern Ukraine.

Photo: Ukraine's Defense Ministry. https://t.co/ws0jFIOIGl

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 1:33 PM

look at them go

[mighty tusk]

idk who will get this reference but:

"Would you use the nukes on Russia, Corbyn

Would you kill millions of people, Jeremy Corbyn"

[hollow hollow]

looks like a frogfoot, but a w nonetheless

[zinc belfry]

don't slander the frogs like that

[mighty tusk]

the joke is what hbomberguy made based on a time he was grilled in an election for saying he would not use nukes

[split aurora]

Corbyn shouldn't have said no

even though he never would have used them

saying you won't removes the deterrent

[fierce arch]

wouldnt be surprised if they did join

[mighty tusk]

that's kind of the point though

people only need to hold themselves to the button because the other person may click it also

therefore, both having nukes inherently heats up base aggression

[split aurora]

Okay but

if the uk said it won't fire nukes

and left nato

what do we do when russia comes along and threatens us

with nukes

and we don't have nukes

[fierce arch]

america isnt some perfect country free of any flaws

[mighty tusk]

other people would threaten them with nukes first of all

[fierce arch]

but at the end of the day

[mighty tusk]

for instance usa

[split aurora]

Not if we left nato

[mighty tusk]

yes we would

[fierce arch]

russia is clearly worse

[split aurora]

Which corbyn wanted to do

[mighty tusk]

uk is an important partner for us culturally and economically

[split aurora]

corbyn wanted to both remove our nukes and nato

the USA would not start a nuclear war over a non-nato nation

[mighty tusk]

everyone should remove their nukes

[split aurora]

okay but

[fierce arch]

hahaha

[split aurora]

you can't remove yours

[fierce arch]

fucking impossible

[split aurora]

unless the other side does too

its a Mexican standoff

[mighty tusk]

ok so we all just hold nukes

[fierce arch]

it would be really nice if we all just threw our nukes in a trashbin

but

[mighty tusk]

and forever threaten each other for eternity

great solution

[fierce arch]

yes

[hollow hollow]

the only way that happens is if china, russia, and the usa all become friends and agree to do it

[split aurora]

any what other solution do you have

[mighty tusk]

let's just all be ready to instantly murder each other

[fierce arch]

if there is ever conflict

nukes will exist

[split aurora]

it would require eery nuclear power coming together and agreeing and being 100% honest and truthful and disbanding all their nukes at once

that will never ever haplen

[fierce arch]

and for what gain

[split aurora]

how the fucj do you get the US and France and the UK and Russia and China and North Korea and India and israel

to all give up their nukes

at the exact same tine

[fierce arch]

nobody wants to give up their nukes because it gives them the advantage over non-nuke nations

[mighty tusk]

see this is why we need nukes then

nobody has any trust and every side instantly says "what's in it for me"

as long as there is this mentality we need nukes

[split aurora]

Anty what are you talking about tbh

you aren't making any kind of consistent sense

[fierce arch]

yeah

wtf

are you agreeing??

[split aurora]

you just rambled about why we should all disband our nukes then said "this is why we need nukes"

[mighty tusk]

not uk, uk doesnt need nukes lol it just doesnt

[scarlet crown]

here we go with another nuke discussion

[mighty tusk]

it has powerful allies with nukes

[fierce arch]

the uk has nukes because it wants to project its power

its literally that simple

[mighty tusk]

yes which is being a shithead

fuck that lol

fuck the world's giant dick measuring contest

[fierce arch]

werent you just saying we needed nukes

[split aurora]

you've switched sides 3 times in 2minites

[mighty tusk]

because the truth is you two just reconvinced me by showing me that there is no hope

[split aurora]

I would love a world with no nukes

but rhat is, in my view,completely impossible

in our current geopolitical climate

[mighty tusk]

thats why its impossible

[fierce arch]

^^^

[split aurora]

soooo keeping our nukes is required

to act as a nuclear deterrent

[mighty tusk]

people thinking it's impossible makes it impossible

[split aurora]

if nato delete all of our nukes

then russia will be free to nuke us at will

[fierce arch]

the idyllic vision of a world without nukes

[split aurora]

with 0 consequences

[fierce arch]

requires every nation

to get rid of their nukes

[mighty tusk]

and i see it as possible racc, it'd just require your mentalities to die

[fierce arch]

and no nations to produce any more nukes

it is not possile

[split aurora]

you would need every single politician in every single country to agree to scrap nukes and to perfectly trust every other political to do the same

that is an impossibility

[fierce arch]

you want nk to give up its nukes?

[mighty tusk]

it's not politician's fault

it is ideologically you two's faults

that is it at the end of the day lol

[scarlet crown]

Isn't that like one of the endings in one of the latest metal gear games?

[mighty tusk]

as long as people see inherent suspicion

[fierce arch]

the country whos only power comes from nukes?

[mighty tusk]

inherent aggression

an inherent life or death without them

[split aurora]

it is entirely my fault

that we have nukes

me and Racc are the sole causes of nuclear bombs

[fierce arch]

yeah

[split aurora]

pog

[mighty tusk]

because that's what I said sure

[fierce arch]

i actually worked on the manhattan project

[mighty tusk]

ever heard of philosophy

[fierce arch]

i was the lead

[split aurora]

I mean yes it is

lmfao

dude slow down and read what you're typing

[mighty tusk]

your philosophy needs to die for this to happen

that is the point

[split aurora]

you're inchorently rambling

[scarlet crown]

they were actually there brainstorming with Einstein during the making of the first one

[mighty tusk]

no i am not

[mighty tusk]

ideologically yes

[fierce arch]

at the end of the dsy

[mighty tusk]

in this discussion

[fierce arch]

nukes are eternal

that much is true

[mighty tusk]

you two are representing everyone who agrees with you

[split aurora]

the first nuke was made because another side was trying to make nukes

[fierce arch]

for as long as conflict exists

nukes will exist

[split aurora]

the same as the 10,000th nuke

Albert einstein only signed the letter telling america to make a nuke

because germany was trying to make one

[mighty tusk]

you can say im just a ranting incoherent guy ig but shrug

not much i can say to that

[split aurora]

and einstein saw the importance of deterrence

[mighty tusk]

if you think i am just dumb in this way, that's fine and i guess understandable

sigh

[split aurora]

giving up every nuke in the world is the same as giving up every army in the world

if every country and every general agreed

and trusted eachother implicitly

boom armies are dissolved overnight

but will that ever happen

no

[mighty tusk]

youve already shown im dumb to most idk why you feel the need to do it again

[split aurora]

because you cannot get every country and every general and every political to agree

[mighty tusk]

most will look over this and just say im incoherent and wrong lol

[split aurora]

man don't with the guilt tripping

[mighty tusk]

im not guilt tripping you're just continuing for no reason

and literally did in fact insult me

[split aurora]

....right, let's leave this here then

[viral junco]

Still very high but its a decrease by over 10% from the other day

[mighty tusk]

sure

i gotta do class rn anyways

sorry for all this ig

[rare walrus]

So wait, did Russia actually gain control of the nuclear plant that was on fire last night?

[split aurora]

yeah

[rare walrus]

Oh shoot, im guessing that’s gonna disrupt power to any city that was using it from there?

[stark inlet]

war crime #663

[mighty tusk]

jesus

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/PriyamvadaGopal/status/1499647274267381761?t=A_asQlOFTwZ7tYTzzCPRcA&s=19

Priyamvada Gopal (@PriyamvadaGopal)

Let's just round the week off with this:

"[Thermobaric bombs] ... which to be fair the US has used before in Afghanistan, but the idea of it being used in Europe is stomach churning”

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 7:25 AM

oh fun more racism

[mighty tusk]

this is exactly what i was talking about earlier >.> this is tribalism but guised as being a Nice Guy

[zinc talon]

hope he's getting called out on this one

[mighty tusk]

Afghanistan? Lawless, who needs rules, human rights? Bogus

[zinc talon]

not his first slip up as it seems

[mighty tusk]

wha

the fuaa

[viral junco]

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1499754362125656065?t=ojNhEvccUIqvSF0xxq9jiA&s=19

Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier)

Microsoft says it is suspending new sales and "stopping many aspects of our business" in Russia: https://t.co/tRaL9z5x4W

Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 2:31 PM

[stark inlet]

Lmao doesnt matter that much

Both amd and intel stopped sales

But yeah hurdles are always welcome

[mighty tusk]

I kinda feel bad for Russians who don't want this war and can't leave the country

[cerulean canyon]

What's the latest y'all

[mighty tusk]

-Ukraine doing NFTs

-Russia using bombs you aren't supposed to use

-The nuclear plant situation

[cerulean canyon]

NFTs....?
Did you just make a joke in this very serious situation or does nft stand for something else

[lilac sparrow]

Cluster munitions havnt been banned completely yet

America hasn’t banned them either

[mighty tusk]

Ukraine is now selling NFTs, Sage

To help fund the war

[cerulean canyon]

Link???

[mighty tusk]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/03/ukraine-to-issue-non-fungible-tokens-to-fund-armed-forces

[lilac sparrow]

Lol

[mighty tusk]

Unless I misinterpreted it which

Maybe I did idk im dumb lol

[cerulean canyon]

Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess

[mighty tusk]

https://twitter.com/MoscowTimes/status/1499735915165634566?s=20&t=nwPpYyc8Wh78ZemIR3QSWw

The Moscow Times (@MoscowTimes)

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg on Friday said the alliance would not impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine after calls from Kyiv to help stop Russia's bombardments
https://t.co/kHG1dS1zxd

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 1:18 PM

https://twitter.com/dylanpwhite/status/1499731378673438724?s=20&t=nwPpYyc8Wh78ZemIR3QSWw

Dylan P. White (@dylanpwhite)

.@NATO’s “core task is to keep our 30 nations safe. We are not part of this conflict. And we have a responsibility to ensure it does not escalate & spread beyond #Ukraine, because that would be even more devastating & dangerous, with even more human suffering.”

—@jensstoltenberg https://t.co/mgXwPn9oZe

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 12:59 PM

[proven steppe]

I hate that people are saying that they should help

Because if they would it could cause ww3

[mighty tusk]

I don't think worldwide escalation is the solution

[unreal path]

Oof

[unreal path]

ikr the only thing that they can do it’s condemn, increase pressure, and provide aid what else are people experiencing

[limber wagon]

https://www.businessinsider.com/kremlin-staff-didnt-expect-ukraine-invasion-sanctions-shock-report-2022-3?international=true&r=US&IR=T

[scarlet crown]

Yea, they sure didn't

[proven steppe]

Mhm

It saddens me to think that originally the soldiers didn't think they were going to war

[mighty tusk]

Honestly, I can kind of believe it

Kind of

They probably knew but there is a chance they did not still

doesn't really change the end result regardless

[limber wagon]

On one hand, this would explain quite how hard the sactions hit, but on the other, this could also be some official attempting to escape responsibility.

[mighty tusk]

yep

Putin's also uh

Not the type of leader who cares about approval tbh

[unreal path]

https://youtu.be/Gfsiw2pf_Y0 starts in 74 mins

[zinc talon]

also with all the intelligence leaks before the invasion, putin sure couln't trust his whole staff

[limber wagon]

With the amount of propaganda going on, I'm also willing to believe that quite a large number of people in power believe some amount of it. Its kinda unavoidable if thats all you hear. And people in power believing their own bullshit is kinda detrimental to good decision making.

[limber wagon]

as example, I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of Qanon and other conspiracy people running for office in the US.

[zinc talon]

bruh

[silk iron]

Eastern Poland is not a fun place to be if you're not white.

Rather concerning given a lot of foreign students will be fleeing over the border to Poland

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499747524684488706?s=20&t=vqI2Be_63_xbBy4I9atGgA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

Baby lemur born in Kyiv zoo was named Bayraktar, after a Turkish-made drone used by the Ukrainian military.

Kyiv Mayor Vitalii Klitschko announced the news while describing the situation in the capital on March 4.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 2:04 PM

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499753328833699843?s=20&t=vqI2Be_63_xbBy4I9atGgA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Coming days of war are 'likely to be worse,' says NATO chief.

Jens Stoltenberg expects “more deaths, more suffering, and more destruction,” as Russia continues its full-scale invasion of the country. However, the alliance has ruled out a no-fly zone over Ukraine.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 2:27 PM

[nocturne osprey]

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1499771284338716674?t=TKypRIaCpUhmF4Nt2XYp5g&s=19

Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa)

Talked to President of the European Commission @vonderleyen. Informed about the aggressor's nuclear terrorism. Preventing it is our common task. Discussed strengthening sanctions against Russia. The issue of 🇺🇦’s membership in the #EU was also on the agenda. #StopRussia

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 3:38 PM

[proven steppe]

Im hoping someone takes the 1 mil bounty on putin's head

[stark inlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t6l7nv/a_piece_of_a_missile_landed_near_zelenskyy/

[copper monolith]

man

[proven steppe]

Holy shit zelenskyy

"you missed" says zelenskyy

[scarlet crown]

good to know the guy has place for humour even during these times

[proven steppe]

Its good to keep your spirit up

[viral junco]

It's how Ireland got through its history

Some people joke about the famine to cope with it

[proven steppe]

"Rule 35, if it exists, it will get joked about." Is what i always never say

😔

[scarlet crown]

I sort of imagine his perspective on this whole deal:
First attempt at presidency, 2020, not that much people actually following him, getting criticised by most politicians, having to deal with war on DPR LPR borders, with covid on top

[proven steppe]

And look at him now

A hero

[scarlet crown]

2 years later a loyal servant of his nation

Doing literally everything in his strength to end this war

[viral junco]

He still remains humble throughout which is far from putin's boasting

[scarlet crown]

At least he doesn't sit 30 meters apart from everyone in fear of getting killed

although there were already 3 attempts at his assassination

3 goddamnit

[viral junco]

Interesting to see they were all foiled by double agents

[proven steppe]

And now (hopefully) putin is gonna get sliced to pieces by an assassin

[viral junco]

Putin must be frothing at the mouth with this

[proven steppe]

I sure hope that 1 mil bounty (if its real) will do some work

[scarlet crown]

I mean, surely is a fun job for a bounty hunter

But a paranoid shit like Putin won't make his death that easy

that's why most people assume someone from his following will pull a Brutus on him

[viral junco]

possibly a coup d'état

[icy ridge]

Good morning from Pst

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499770999037964294?s=20&t=La-aD2ftdtUlFQGJxRbhwA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️NATO chief: Putin underestimated Ukraine's military, who were able to fight back and slow down the Russian offensive.

This is "the result of the courage of the Ukrainian army, but also the support and courage of the Ukrainian people and their leadership," Jens Stoltenberg said

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 3:37 PM

[copper monolith]

[zealous rapids]

Ye

[hushed magnet]

i mean wasnt there some evidence to suggest china knew since before the olympics?

whether or not its likely to be true idk tho

[limber wagon]

The troop movements were known quite a while before the actual invasion. its more about the size and scope

so I dont think thats conclusive

[hushed magnet]

ok this is it

yeah its not conclusive

[copper monolith]

(the guardian)

[icy ridge]

👏👏

[hushed magnet]

o7

[nocturne osprey]

https://twitter.com/pantone/status/1499461783509164035

PANTONE (@pantone)

https://t.co/n6N6AtWHjn

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Twitter · Mar 3, 2022, 7:08 PM

[icy ridge]

How is he doing this from jail?

It's not house arrest is it?

[nocturne osprey]

some prisoners get internet access if they're rich enough

[icy ridge]

Surely if it's Putin's most ardent critic/potential person to replace him ....he's considered no 1 threat by him domestically no?

[viral junco]

its jail, and likely a phonecall

[nocturne tusk]

Through his lawyers, he writes down what he wants to say and his team posts it later

[zinc talon]

https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1499445522125492225?s=20&t=lmUmz4TINAU9bRk7v2Z8pw when you can't even fake stuff right

Shayan Sardarizadeh (@Shayan86)

This video has gone viral on multiple platforms, spread widely by pro-Kremlin accounts. It claims to show a Ukrainian corpse moving, hence proving the war in Ukraine is a hoax or "Western propaganda".

But the clip is from a climate change protest in Vienna in early February. https://t.co/d2wSfLyeVj

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Twitter · Mar 3, 2022, 6:04 PM

[split aurora]

lmao

[zinc talon]

good thread if you want to see a collection of fact-checked pictures

[copper monolith]

rest in piss bozos

[hushed magnet]

L

[icy ridge]

US Secretary of State and Ursula Von Der Leyen speaking

[copper monolith]

👁️

[icy ridge]

Live on Euronews, idk on other channels/ streams

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499788491475066887?s=20&t=-9-O3ovf5K94HZac1Ofcpw

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

Our reporter Illia Ponomarenko @IAPonomarenko has returned from his day in the field. His report on what he saw in Irpin, a satellite town near Kyiv, is coming soon.

Here's a preview:

📷 Illia Ponomarenko/The Kyiv Independent https://t.co/xHjecgbXXJ

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 4:46 PM

[hollow hollow]

found this website that lists and shows pictures of every confirmed loss of equipment on both sides during the invasion https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html?m=1

[copper monolith]

👁️

[zinc talon]

Good site, resource for a lot of articles

[stark inlet]

https://www.engadget.com/apple-maps-crimea-belongs-to-ukraine-153058819.html

[icy ridge]

Also since the last major independent news has closed in Russia, how are people supposed to rise up and get the correct news?

[split aurora]

Theres plenty of Internet access

[copper monolith]

listened in on a russian news report dad was watching online (cuz the channels are all banned lmao), and the reported was talking about the occupied Melitopol, but he called it "demilitarized", and a large convoy with food was on it's way from the "Republic of" Crimea

[split aurora]

Like, they've only blocked twitter, Facebook etc

plenty of other news sites available

• vpns

• the BBC is advertising that its available on the dark web

the BBC has also set up shortwave radio stations

in ukraine and russia

[scarlet crown]

those that wish to see will see i think

[split aurora]

ye

[copper monolith]

also the Russian ambassador is speaking at the UN Security Council meeting, listening in on what bullshit he's gonna spit out

[scarlet crown]

Most likely something about them not wanting harm or how this invasion is a peace operation

[cerulean canyon]

Our air force base is fly testing a bunch of military planes today

[copper monolith]

nice

[cerulean canyon]

It's quite loud since I live right in the flight path

[copper monolith]

"it's an anti-russian propaganda that says we would harm the NPPs"

I nearly spit out my food

[buoyant sundial]

Is there? It seems like something that might be limited by the government there…

[nocturne tusk]

Telegram chats

[copper monolith]

"the Ukranian civilians aren't under threat from Russian forces in this special military operation, it's the nationalists that are keeping civilians hostages in occupied cities"

[limber wagon]

Yeez, what a bunch of bullshit

[copper monolith]

you dense fucking bald egghead

[limber wagon]

He's not dense, just lying.

I think we should stop pretending otherwise

[solid adder]

guys guys believe us

[scarlet crown]

This is just kindergarten level bullshit

no, he did it!! it's not us, it's them!!!

[copper monolith]

"the nationalists are preventing the Donetks people's republic forces from advancing by threatening to blow up a school full of hostages"

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wake-up-morning-morning-sleepy-gif-21844360

[nocturne tusk]

Crazy, lying, dense, something in between, who knows, by this time really hard to tell

[zinc talon]

No way

[scarlet crown]

That is one nice cat. Orange cats gotta be my favourite type

[solid adder]

I used to have a orange cat

[copper monolith]

this is my reaction to what that man just said

[scarlet crown]

Ik, but i like the cat

[solid adder]

(still alive but new owners)

[scarlet crown]

this is literally the game of reverse

[copper monolith]

applies to all russian gov officials and their owned media

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499802307856379914?s=20&t=fgARRDsEa3m9fPOMdCnQmA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️ EIB will give Ukraine 668 million euros in immediate financial support.

The @EIB’s support is meant to help Ukraine meet its urgent financial needs, including buying food, medical supplies and fuel.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 5:41 PM

👀 pog if real (bbc)

[haughty yew]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/politics/putin-war-crimes-russia-ukraine-us-what-matters/index.html

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499805786901520385?s=20&t=aRibJf2mMO0HzgK_oHcGjg

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Lawmaker Shufrych detained by territorial defense, alleged of helping Russia.

According to the 206 battalion of Ukraine’s Territorial Defense, Nestor Shufrych, a member of the pro-Kremlin Opposition Platform party, was taking photos of a Ukrainian checkpoint in Kyiv.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 5:55 PM

[scarlet crown]

Yep, it's true

[copper monolith]

what a shithead

[scarlet crown]

Not surprising, he's from a "Opposition platform - for life" party

[copper monolith]

Ukranian ambassador lol, "Terrorussia" so true

[scarlet crown]

they're known here as a pro-kremlin party, so it was a matter of time until one of them slipped

[copper monolith]

the rest need to be tracked down and made sure to not sell government info to the enemy

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/UA_struggle/218 while that's on, they keep shelling civilians

[split aurora]

thats one way to stop them getting through

lmfao

[clear pebble]

_ _
Russian boats: Exist
Ukraine: Parry this you casual

[copper monolith]

send link to 🧵

[scarlet crown]

they can't use ships if there's no place to use them

[copper monolith]

terrorists

also never have I thought I'd hear the term "gaslightng" used outside of the internet, let alone at the UN and by someone that's mercilessly destroying everything the Russian diplomat said

[limber wagon]

Good ole flood tactics

[scarlet crown]

you could say Russia girlbossed a little too hard

[copper monolith]

xd

[stone vigil]

they have gaslit, girlbossed and gatekept too close to the sun

[viral junco]

russia has blocked facebook

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1499748863179120646

OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical)

This is actually a pretty significant video, as it reflects the fact that, north of Kyiv, the Ukrainians still hold a line of control on the Irpin river https://t.co/COv5P0WWn1

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▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 2:09 PM

[copper monolith]

ty queen

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499808377244995592?s=20&t=9Th0nbdAATWWneIHtwpPAA

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Three Ukrainian supermarket chains - Silpo, Novus, and Varus - stop selling Coca-Cola products as the company continues to operate in Russia.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 6:05 PM

wtf coke

face book is band (bbc)

[viral junco]

they turned the irpin into a lake

[split aurora]

good luck getting a convoy through there

[keen sorrel]

Why ban facebook but only slow down twitter

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1498365097059696645

Def Mon (@DefMon3)

@pmakela1 The road to Kyiv is not gonna be easy. There is a lot of "rivers" on the way. Trying to set up pontoon bridges with drones in the air is gonna be tricky. I'm sure existing bridges will be blown up. Here are some of the obstacles they have to pass. https://t.co/1kon3qV7GM

Twitter · Feb 28, 2022, 6:30 PM

[copper monolith]

they'll probably get to it once more people make lengthy threads about why Russia will lose

[viral junco]

i wonder

if people make pro ukranian threads on popular games in russia would they ban steam

[split aurora]

brb getting csgo banned in russia

instant civil war

[keen sorrel]

No they'll just review bomb the games themselves lol

[viral junco]

oddly enough most of the review bombs for cyberpunk i've seen were in mandarin

[viral junco]

also the anti review bomb feature would make it a bit pointless

[keen sorrel]

That hasn't stopped them

Not just games though, saw an issue on the react github yesterday which was something

[split aurora]

lmao

[viral junco]

?

[keen sorrel]

It's gone now it seems, but well this

[viral junco]

pj dear

oh*

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499813591792431108?s=20&t=moiVvWFn6v6G6R77Ijzxgg

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Ukraine joins NATO’s Cyber Defense Center as a contributing participant.

“Ukraine could bring valuable first-hand knowledge,” said Jaak Tarien, Director of the NATO Cooperative Cyber Defense Centre of Excellence.

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Twitter · Mar 4, 2022, 6:26 PM

[buoyant sundial]

…Uh is this an actual thing now?

[copper monolith]

(bbc)

[copper monolith]

been around for 14 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_Cyber_Defence_Centre_of_Excellence

[buoyant sundial]

No I mean Ukraine being in nato

[copper monolith]

"contributing participant"

[hushed magnet]

theyre not a part of nato

[copper monolith]

so no

[buoyant sundial]

Oh