the_ukraine_situation

[split aurora]

power is entirely based on what type

[molten tartan]

It seems like the only large city that has been taken so far is Melitopol

Which is good

[split aurora]

but very large ones (like the Russian FOAB) can wipe a village off the map

[rare walrus]

I thought they only took like the eastern part of Melitopol?

[split aurora]

iirc the FOAB is the worlds largest non-nuclear bomb

[split aurora]

they might have part, they might have the whole city

its unknown

[haughty yew]

I really hope they aren’t used then

[rare walrus]

Oh shoot, that sounds really scary

[rare walrus]

Yeah same here

[molten tartan]

The russians claim to have taken the entire city

obviously not reliable but

[rare walrus]

Hmm i see

[molten tartan]

I think there's a fair chance

It also says it has on wikipedia, but also it's wikipedia so

[rare walrus]

Yeah

[molten tartan]

I need to get a better source

[rare walrus]

Anyone can edit, including russia

[molten tartan]

I'm looking at this, which is constantly updated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Russo-Ukrainian_War_detailed_map

[rare walrus]

Ah i see

[leaden grove]

The NY Times has a map

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/77

what disconnection from swift means to Russia

[copper monolith]

let's fucking go

[clear creek]

So it begins

[copper monolith]

that's a lot

[zinc talon]

finally

[scarlet crown]

brace yourself lads

and send prayers

Ukraine is hosting a phoneline for mothers who's sons were sent out to ukraine and were taken hostage https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/78

surely something a "neo-nazi" country would do

[copper monolith]

just one of those things I'm sure will go unreported in the russian media

[molten tartan]

Sorry

Didn't see that you had posted that already

[split aurora]

by "taken hostage" I assume you mean POWs?

[copper monolith]

yes

[molten tartan]

I haven't heard anything from Kharkiv in a while

[scarlet crown]

sorry what's a pow

[zinc talon]

prisoner of war

[split aurora]

captured soldier

[scarlet crown]

Then yes

[split aurora]

fair fair

https://twitter.com/RihoTerras/status/1497537193346220038

Riho Terras (@RihoTerras)

THREAD 1/7 Intel from a Ukrainian officer about a meeting in Putin’s lair in Urals. Oligarchs convened there so no one would flee. Putin is furious, he thought that the whole war would be easy and everything would be done in 1-4 days. @EPPGroup @general_ben @edwardlucas @politico https://t.co/8AoelUDWM9

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Estonian MP / Former Cabinet member

8tweet thread

I cannot read the image text so I have to hope the translation is reliable

its quite a reputable source tho

[hollow grove]

wait putin

putin has a lair?

[haughty yew]

If everything in the thread is true, it shows how stupid Putin is being

[hollow grove]

how did the entire world not see this war coming thousands of years ago?.

[split aurora]

the rest of the thread

for easier reading

[paper cedar]

How reliable is this?

Why would Putin meet with an Ukrainian Officer

feels kinda fishy

[molten tartan]

I just saw a video on twitter of a Russian armoured vehicle being hit with like 15 molotov cocktails

I didn't realise they were so

effective

[fierce arch]

i eman

they are basically fire in a bottle

[cerulean canyon]

I read somewhere that said that Russia wasn't planning on the operation taking more then 2 weeks

So there's probably a reason for that

[limber wagon]

Doesnt say that. It says that A Ukrainian officer has intel about that meeting

[rare walrus]

Oh yeah, a molotov cocktail can do a lot of damage when aimed correctly

[cerulean canyon]

One moment let me find it, it was on the BBC site

[paper cedar]

ohh that makes more sense

I really hope it's true then

[hushed magnet]

theres a reason theyre so commonly used

[paper cedar]

because if it is then oh my, Ukraine might win

[limber wagon]

I really hope so

[solid adder]

🤞

[limber wagon]

But with this information you can't really be sure I think

[hushed magnet]

not hard to make and reliable

[limber wagon]

smart seeming long twitter thread != definitely true

[nocturne bobcat]

He's got that giant mega-mansion in the Black Sea, and the estate it's on (if I remember right) is almost 40 times the size of Monaco

[split aurora]

It is from the former defence chief of Estonia

which gives it a degree of validity

[limber wagon]

Yeah, which lends credibility

[split aurora]

Course, can't be confirmed true

but this also lines up with what UK/US intel posts are saying

[paper cedar]

my god I read everything and if it is true it MAKES SO MUCH SENSE that Putin did this

[molten tartan]

I just didn't think molotovs were that powerful

[split aurora]

oh yeah, molotovs can fuck shit up

[molten tartan]

But there's videos of tanks being destroyed outside of Kyiv

[split aurora]

add soap and you get napalm type sticky fire

[molten tartan]

I can't believe how brave these people are

[split aurora]

add iron filings and you get thermite

[molten tartan]

Tanks can't fight in urban areas without infantry support

and armoured vehicles still struggle

as long as the Russians don't get infantry in, they can't secure their control

[hushed magnet]

for sure, but its easy to underestimate how much people are willing to fight for their lives

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaukrainy/6261

[split aurora]

Russia do have infantry in the capital, but infantry is just as well to molotovs too

[scarlet crown]

Yet another war crime

[rare walrus]

Yup, and plus if Ukraine can hold long enough, complications for the Russians like spring weather and muddy ground will make it even harder for them to advance

[split aurora]

ohhhh fun

btw]

has russians recent ship related incident been posted here

russia fired a missile at a japanese cargo ship

[cerulean canyon]

Found it

[split aurora]

and set fire to it

[cerulean canyon]

Page 3 of the BBC source

[scarlet crown]

Crazy people

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/norishikata/status/1497447567767920643

Noriyuki SHIKATA (四方敬之) (@norishikata)

Russian missile hit Japanese freighter in Black Sea A Japanese-owned cargo ship was shelled in the Black Sea, south of Ukraine. A crewmember was injured. Reuters reports a Russian missile hit the ship's stern, causing the vessel to catch fire. | NHK https://t.co/hY6mRTLN7M

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one injury no deaths thank god

they're moving to turkey for repairs, having initially planned to load up in odessa

[hushed magnet]

what the fuck

[rare walrus]

Why the hell are they targeting cargo ships from countries not in the conflict in the first place? Surely this had to count as an act of war or something

[split aurora]

it is

they also bombed a moldovan ship

war crime 2372

[cerulean canyon]

Wtf

[icy ridge]

Oh this has to be considered an act of war....GREAT

[split aurora]

its not gonna be escalated

[hushed magnet]

russia is just fucking insane

[cerulean canyon]

For real Jesus

[hollow grove]

think it's fair to say that it didn't take 2 weeks for his popularity to drop

[rare walrus]

I just dont even get the point of doing it, like it literally makes no sense!

[hollow grove]

Mainly the Kremlin

[hushed magnet]

well yeah

[split aurora]

either an accident, or its fear

trying to keep foreigners away from ukraine

[cerulean canyon]

Absolutely not, he tanked it right away.
I think the fact that he planned out how long it was supposed to take bothers me a lot.
I am so glad he severely underestimated Ukraine

Two weeks.

[hollow grove]

of course he planned it out

[rare walrus]

Yeah, it’s just like, even if it was for fear they’re risking so much of NATO joining the war, not to mention the countless innocent lives that could be lost

[nocturne bobcat]

I'd need to find a source for this but I thought I heard that NATO was thinking of escorting freight ships that need to go through the black sea to ensure stuff like that doesn't keep happening

[hollow grove]

he spent literal years making it so the people of Russia at thought he was a good leader

and made promises that he wouldn't start a war

[nocturne bobcat]

And uhhhh considering Putin is now just shooting at everyone who enters black sea waters, I wouldn't be surprised if they just end up doing that

[hushed magnet]

and undoes it all in like a day

[hollow grove]

and now he had to decide how he can keep his people content while also doing whatever the fuck he wants

[rare walrus]

Putin wants to get as much power as he can while he still has the government under his control

[hollow grove]

I don't mean to say that this is any good, it's horrifying

[cerulean canyon]

Yeah absolutely

[rare walrus]

Yeah, it really is quite terrible

[hollow grove]

but the man while a fucking maniac, is a big strategist

[zinc talon]

Don't underestimate how many people in Russia are misinformed or know only the propaganda

[cerulean canyon]

Absolutely

[rare walrus]

Oh yeah

[hollow grove]

oh of course

[icy ridge]

Yup

[hollow grove]

like at least 60% of the population doesn't see past the propaganda as it is literally everywhere in russia

[icy ridge]

However, thankfully and hopefully the younger generation knows better since they are the ones protesting atm

[hollow grove]

at least the people are opening their eyes now

[cerulean canyon]

Brainwashed

[nocturne bobcat]

Oh I see Germany has decided to send weapons to Ukraine

Suppose the message of "I need weapons, not a fucking ride" finally got through to them lol

[hollow grove]

don't get me wrong I don't mean to say that the people of russia are to blame for being brainwashed

[cerulean canyon]

Absolutely and Im so glad for that

[hollow grove]

as it happens without you even knowing it but it's good that now at long last their eyes are opening

[cerulean canyon]

Oh no no I get you
It's not their fault in the least

It's hard to know when you are being manipulated

[hollow grove]

just sad that it has to be under these circumstances

[zinc talon]

I don't know any statistics but i think meany ppl are just silent as things go on

[rare walrus]

Yeah i agree, Putin and the Kremlin are the ones behind all this stuff

[nocturne bobcat]

Looks like Netherlands are also sending anti-tank weapons to Ukraine as well

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-reverses-ban-on-weapon-sales-to-ukraine-live-updates/a-60924798 sauce

[icy ridge]

If Putin gets ousted by the people is it possible that Navalny can take over ....or is he like so malnourished from prison that he can't do government ?

[zinc talon]

Think that's not how it works

[nocturne bobcat]

Who knows tbh

[hollow grove]

yeah someone posted a twitter post mentioning the things europe is doing to help Ukraine

[zinc talon]

There won't be any sudden change/uprising

[hollow grove]

this one

[nocturne bobcat]

The government corruption in Russia goes a lot deeper than just Putin, so it would be stupid hard to put anyone that's not a Kremlin supporter in charge

[hushed magnet]

looks like things could turn around even more against russia, with how things have gone so far + support from other countries

[rare walrus]

I think if the people oust him then they’ll put in their own person, but it doesn’t look like theres gonna be an uprising

[scarlet crown]

holy shit

[rare walrus]

^^

[scarlet crown]

https://imgur.com/a/Z36klCS sunburns spotted on ukraine territory (still might need verification)

[hushed magnet]

lets just hope this doesnt escalate even further

[icy ridge]

Omg

[rare walrus]

Wait what are sunburnes?

[scarlet crown]

high fucking power tanks

[rare walrus]

Oh shit

[scarlet crown]

mostly used for quick and effective destruction of structures

[split aurora]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/putins-terrifying-thermobaric-rocket-launchers-26315296

thermobaric tank launchers

[scarlet crown]

it's said here that the photo was taken in Tokmak

[icy ridge]

Wait like army???

[rare walrus]

Hmm, i hope those anti-missile defenses can get there in time soon then

[hushed magnet]

holy shit

[cerulean canyon]

[molten tartan]

The main video I was looking at was in 2014, but there are videos showing it happening this afternoon

[hushed magnet]

things are definitely escalating

within ukraine

[fierce arch]

what news sites

[icy ridge]

Cnn

[haughty yew]

The article says mostly weapons, but “Portuguese Prime Minister Antonio Costa said Friday that the country would be sending reinforcements to join Ukrainian soldiers on the ground to help secure their borders as this “is a war against the freedom of self-determination of a democratic country and therefore it is also a war against the freedom of self-determination and against democracy."”

It’s from CNN yes

[fierce arch]

send the link

[molten tartan]

If the Russians manage to seige a city before the curfew, the citizens are definitely going to do a lot of damage

[fierce arch]

to the article

i cant find it

[haughty yew]

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-26-22/index.html

[molten tartan]

In large numbers they're extremely deadly

[icy ridge]

So wait are they going in or just staying at the Nato borderzm

[fierce arch]

i believe they would support ukraine

but this isn't like

them allying with ukraine, its military aid

[split aurora]

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-26-22/index.html

The Czech Republic committed on Saturday to send a “shipment of weapons to Ukraine” worth over $8.5 million to a “place of Ukrainians choice."

“The government has approved a shipment of weapons to Ukraine. We are sending machine guns, submachine guns, sniper rifles and pistols and their corresponding ammunition valued at CZK 188 million,” Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala tweeted. ```

Speaking at a televised news conference, the Portuguese prime minister went on to say, “there was an unanimity of all states, in view of the need to strengthen the NATO presence on the borders of Ukraine and in all the alliance countries that are close to the Ukraine region."

“Portugal, in this sense, in addition to the forces that this year has assigned to the European command of NATO, decided to anticipate, from the second half to the first half, the mobilization and commitment of an infantry company that will act in Romania and that will be projected in the coming weeks," Costa said. 

"Several other countries at the moment are either anticipating or reinforcing or deciding to reinforce their participation with these countries [bordering Ukraine] in order to have a clear manifestation of unity and deterrence regarding Russia's actions," Costa added.```

They are being sent to Romania to the border with Ukraine

[copper monolith]

hm

[split aurora]

To make sure russia doesnt cross

[nocturne bobcat]

I don't wanna be tone deaf or anything but I wanna point out that the sunburns are technically the type of missiles, and the tank itself is probably some sort of MLRS (multiple launch rocket system) attached to part of a regular small tank

But in any case yeah, the missiles are stupid powerful

As missiles do

[icy ridge]

If a Portuguese Soldier gets killed alongside the Ukrainian wouldn't that counstitue Article 4/5 of NATO?

[scarlet crown]

guess they're really pulling their sleeves for aces now

ridiculous

[nocturne bobcat]

So essentially a portable missile launcher

[haughty yew]

I got no idea, sorry

[split aurora]

they arent going to ukraine

they are going to the romania-ukraine border

[nocturne bobcat]

The missiles themselves are generally used as anti-ship missiles

[split aurora]

to stand on the border

[icy ridge]

Yes I know, but while defending the border alongside the Ukrainian Soldiers I mena

[split aurora]

They will only be "defending the border"

if russia invaded romania

at which point russia has invaded a nato state

the red marking is where they are being sent

[zinc talon]

I know this is serious and all but sometimes you need to cope with this stuff

[copper monolith]

lmao

[molten tartan]

What could have happened?

A real mystery

better get another one

The Russians can take the countryside, but there's no way in hell they're getting the cities without a damn good fight

Both the army and Ukraine's citizens are ready to fight

[icy ridge]

Hmmm could Ukraine do scorched Earth to prevent Russia from using the countryside resources?

[limber wagon]

That .... would not be a good idea

[molten tartan]

Maybe, but I don't think Russia is using too many resources from the countryside

[limber wagon]

You know people live there

[molten tartan]

plus

[stone vigil]

could but they wont

[molten tartan]

uh

[zinc belfry]

what’s happened in the past six hours?

[molten tartan]

yeah

[zinc talon]

they sure do things like this already

[icy ridge]

Yeah ..just realized how bad that would be for people still living 😭

[rare walrus]

Yeah, and with spring mud coming soon thatll have much the same effect of slowing the russian advance

[zinc talon]

destroying infrastructure, roads, bridges and rails in particular

[fierce arch]

what is your obsession with this spring mud lmao

[molten tartan]

The impromptu anti vehicle defences being made are also going to help a lot

if they can create a perimeter that will help greatly

[rare walrus]

I dont know i just remember lots of info about how mud can screw over vehicles from my history classes last year

[stone vigil]

the fucking amount of offences that have been stopped by shit weather

[rare walrus]

Indeed

[molten tartan]

This was a bad time of year for the Russians to invade

[scarlet crown]

(((dont tell them but i think it has something to do with them being just a slightly overgrown cactus, just saying)))

[rare walrus]

Lmao pfft

[tired scaffold]

Mud has a history of being really inconvenient for invading forces

[rare walrus]

Mud and snow

However russian stuff is adapted to snow

[scarlet crown]

i though tthey'd be used to mud too

since st petersburg was built in a swamp

[rare walrus]

Im not actually sure if they are, ive never heard of them being specifically adapted for mud. I might look into it to see what i can find

[molten tartan]

What's worrying me is the Dirty Bomb claim

[rare walrus]

Yeah same here

[zinc belfry]

the what

[scarlet crown]

Occupants are planning to make a scene in donbass region

[zinc belfry]

oh

[scarlet crown]

some sort of a chemical disaster/attack to push the blame on ukrainians

[molten tartan]

I'm afraid Putin might do that to justify something drastic

if this war really doesn't go the way he wants it

I don't think anything is off the table

[zinc belfry]

im just afraid if he wants to bring everything down with him

[zinc talon]

Just on a note on Olga Rudenko. She retweeted several posts without verification that turned out to be fake in minutes.

[rare walrus]

(Dont mean to interrupt the current topic, sorry about that) Ive found some info on the mud thing, there’s footage of russian tanks getting stuck and even sinking in mud while training, however there’s also claims that they have various tanks that are adapted to the mud: https://www.google.com/amp/s/taskandpurpose.com/news/russia-tanks-stuck-mud-ukraine/%3Famp

[split aurora]

ah ty for the heads up

[zinc talon]

not to discredit her, but even verified accounts can spread false information

[hushed magnet]

i mean, russia is definitely being reckless

[molten tartan]

I'm genuinely afraid of what they're gonna do if they do fake a Dirty Bomb incident

[grand pier]

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxUH7dWkHXR62RyJXNMM3-G8zaWv8IeT3K

[solid adder]

oh no him

why post him

[fervent matrix]

A bunch of people posted Arma 2 footage saying it was footage of Ukrainians firing missiles at a Russian jet. Don't trust a lot of what's posted online

[grand pier]

cause he literally predicted the way the war would go 2 days before it started?

[molten tartan]

Obviously it's very unrealistic, but we always have to think about the nuclear option

[zinc talon]

pls stop

[hushed magnet]

launching an invasion and underestimating ukrainian power, threatening finland and sweden, saying they dont need diplomacy with the west, allegedly bombing a japanese ship, committing war crimes for all to see

[split aurora]

This was also posted by an Estonian MEP who is former minister of defence

[hushed magnet]

also btw this was already posted

[split aurora]

for extra credibility

[cerulean canyon]

Wreckless indeed

[molten tartan]

Sorry

[split aurora]

^

[grand pier]

ah didnt see, i scrolled back about an hour or so and didnt see it

[split aurora]

fair fair

[zinc talon]

nw but this doesn't help in this situation and was talked through several times. Nuclear weapons are for deterrence

[molten tartan]

I'm just thinking of what they may be justifying though

ignoring that, what else could they bring in?

that they aren't already using

[hushed magnet]

its cool dw, just letting you know

more heavy weaponry basically

[scarlet crown]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/86

maximum spread

sunburners are real

[rare walrus]

The only thing i could guess is more warships, however it seems like they are having a hard time with that, and heavy stuff like big guns and such are also hard to bring in with the lack of air control they have.

[hushed magnet]

and heres the heavy weaponry

well then

[rare walrus]

Do yall think the german anti-missile defenses being sent in will be able to defend against the sunburners?

[hushed magnet]

heres to hoping theres minimal death and damage

[split aurora]

"sunburns" are missile launchers atop tanks

[rare walrus]

I hope so too

[split aurora]

no harder to disable then normal tanks

but they have 10km or so range

[scarlet crown]

i wish for this to be a fake but please do spread this

[split aurora]

so they can just park outside a city and level if with missiles

[rare walrus]

Yeah, i was just askin about the missile-defenses since they could launch outside a city or somethin

[rare walrus]

Yeah

[dull crane]

Russia

[hushed magnet]

are there any effective defences against them?

[grand pier]

missiles are actually notoriously bad for leveling cities

[dull crane]

destroy Russia

[rare walrus]

I would guess retaliatory missiles, however im not sure

[leaden grove]

Some of them yes, others no

[rare walrus]

Well with these these are MOABs or somethin alike them, they’re like really big missiles

[grand pier]

the amount of pictures i've seen of missiles just stuck in the ground unexploded

[leaden grove]

Ukraine has Buk air defense systems

[hushed magnet]

wdym?

[rare walrus]

Ah i see, i really hope those can hold off the sunburners

[leaden grove]

You can shoot down regular missiles, but not scatter bombs

[nocturne osprey]

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1497655298907009027?t=rBVQqr32r-0rH0ZuMGWKCw&s=19

Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa)

In a phone conversation, I thanked @AndrzejDuda for his personal leadership in granting Ukraine membership in the #EU. The concrete daily assistance of Poland to our country is also invaluable. The 🇺🇦 🇵🇱 relationship is a common history and, I am sure, a common European future.

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[hushed magnet]

oh right

[rare walrus]

Are the sunburners non-scatter?

[leaden grove]

The thing is that it’s too late to supply large air defense systems now because those are really difficult to operate

I think that the most sustainable option would be enforcing a no-fly zone

[grand pier]

NATO cant enforce a no fly zone

they dont have the authority to

[rare walrus]

I thought there was a petition too?

[leaden grove]

Yep, they aren’t

But they‘re hypersonic

[zinc belfry]

gonna be real, petitions aren’t going to do anything

[grand pier]

ukraine isnt a NATO member so NATO cant actually do anything for Ukraine

[leaden grove]

They will never get the authority because Russia can veto everything in the UN council

[grand pier]

individual NATO members are sending support on their own

as they are allowed to

[leaden grove]

This isn’t a question of what’s allowed or what isn’t allowed

[grand pier]

but NATO itself as an organization is powerless in this situation

[leaden grove]

NATO can do whatever it wants if its leaders agree to it

[grand pier]

the moment NATO intervenes and thus violates their own charter Russia gets to say "see i told you so"

[zealous rapids]

I just got in from skiing has anything happened

[leaden grove]

What charter are you referring to?

[dull crane]

Russia is just playing a big mind game rn

[grand pier]

NATO is a defensive alliance

[leaden grove]

Uhh, Germany loosened its stance on arms deliveries

[grand pier]

they can not take any form of agressive action unless agressive action was taken upon them first

[leaden grove]

what about the Yugoslavia bombings

Those were an official NATO operation

Also

There used to be a no-fly zone above Libya

Run by NATO

[leaden grove]

Also a no-fly zone is not aggressive action

[molten tartan]

difference is those countries do not have nuclear weapons and a massive army

[zealous rapids]

So any update on kyiv

[dull crane]

Fighting

[leaden grove]

^^

Mostly saboteurs though

[dull crane]

Airport was taken

[molten tartan]

again

[dull crane]

but that’s it

[leaden grove]

The main tank columns haven’t gotten there yet

The Russians only send in smaller groups every so often to mark targets and whatnot

[dull crane]

Russia is Russian this war, which is good and bad for Ukraine

rushing

[grand pier]

which was also done without the proper authorizations and its legitimacy is still contested to this day

[solid adder]

ah yes Russia is Russian this war

😭

[icy ridge]

And the floor is made of floor ....what was this sentence 😭

[leaden grove]

Yep, but obviously this would have to be done in cooperation with Ukraine

[zealous rapids]

Any nato stuff or other stuff happened

[leaden grove]

If you want some good news, a Latvian convoy with 30 truckloads of fuel and medical equipment is on its way to Ukraine rn, it was partly funded by a charity concert

[icy ridge]

Kyiv's mayor Vitali Klitschko imposes a curfew from Saturday evening until Monday morning
He says anyone seen in the streets will be considered a Russian "saboteur"
The Ukrainian capital is braced for another night of attacks after Russian forces failed to break through overnight on Friday
Huge numbers of people are fleeing Ukraine, with a 27-hour long queue of women and children on the Moldovan border
Germany says it supports "targeted" restrictions on Russia's access to the Swift payments system - it had been the EU's final hold-out
Hungary's PM Viktor Orban, who has had close relations with Vladimir Putin, tells the BBC he supports all EU sanctions on Russia
The UK meanwhile says it and 25 other nations will send more weapons and aid to Ukraine
The UN estimates that at least 120,000 people have escaped Ukraine in the past 48 hours

[nocturne osprey]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497657843629109256?t=zI3UJSATrNifsolrAHxMFw&s=19

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️President's Office: Sumy fully returned to Ukrainian control.

Presidential advisor Oleksiy Arestovych wrote that despite earlier reports that half the city was under Russian control, it has now returned fully to Ukrainian control.

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 7:40 PM

[stone vigil]

Many countries are sending supplies to Ukraine, and NATO is increasing boarder guards. But otherwise no

[leaden grove]

Other than that, arms deliveries by Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany etc.

[nocturne bobcat]

sauce to back up boergirl's claim on the supplies

[leaden grove]

Estonia got permission to deliver howitzers too

[stone vigil]

Sauce is indeed important

[nocturne bobcat]

Germany sending weapons is a really big deal too

[leaden grove]

It is

[zealous rapids]

Why?

[leaden grove]

Because they blocked arms deliveries for a really long time

And that meant that other countries couldn’t deliver German-made weapons either

Also the sheer amount of missiles they‘re sending now - 1500 in total

[nocturne bobcat]

I maintain, the whole "I need weapons, not a fucking ride" quote from Zelenskyy probably woke them up a bit lol

totally speculation though

[nocturne bobcat]

Yup yup this exactly

[hushed magnet]

yeah probably

and i guess just increasing pressure in general

[copper monolith]

just saw this, if it's true, man lmao

[stone vigil]

This and just the gravity of the situation, if they get Ukraine they will push further

[nocturne bobcat]

They don't like sending lethal weapons and essentially have upheld policies on not sending weapons to conflict areas, which makes this a big deal

Yup yup agreed with you both

[leaden grove]

I’m rewatching the charity concert and the choral part is giving me chills

[scarlet crown]

Im going to bed to wake up earlier this morning

occupants seem to love to shoot at 5 am so gotta be ready

[molten tartan]

That's great!

[zinc talon]

have a good night and stay safe

[leaden grove]

Oof, I hope you can get some rest

[molten tartan]

Sumy is very close to the border iirc

[split aurora]

goodnight bud, sleep well

[scarlet crown]

Keep up prayers, spread good news

wish you all a peaceful night

[molten tartan]

so the fact they've got it back under control is great

stay safe ein

[scarlet crown]

Слава Україні

[hushed magnet]

i imagine russia wouldve taken a huge hit by the time theyd of taken ukraine

sleep well and stay safe

💛 💙

[copper monolith]

[haughty yew]

CNN

[zinc talon]

the do lack diesel. Seen the videos of stranded tanks?

[zealous rapids]

Does that mean they are coming closer to negotiating

[haughty yew]

I have not, but clearly it’s a really big issue

[zealous rapids]

CNN has the most twisted headlines

[copper monolith]

L

[nocturne osprey]

https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1497661173231239170?t=tozdxjmCNVVPcdZMRlt84g&s=19

Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa)

Had a phone conversation with @BorisJohnson. Grateful to the British Prime Minister for his position, new decisions to enhance the combat capabilities of the Ukrainian army. Agreed on further joint steps to counter the aggressor.

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 7:53 PM

[wind meteor]

Hey, I just discovered this channel. Quick question - has anyone posted the "close the airspace over Ukraine" petition here?

[wind meteor]

Героям слава

[copper monolith]

I mean it kind of already is

[scarlet crown]

I did, why?

[copper monolith]

[molten tartan]

??

[scarlet crown]

i was just about to head to bed but im curious

[wind meteor]

Walking around servers I know of, seeing if I can promote the petition

[paper cedar]

uh that's questionable

[molten tartan]

I can't see where it is on the map

where is it?

[scarlet crown]

doing gods work, brother 🤝

[nocturne bobcat]

petition?

[scarlet crown]

It never hurts to post again if you're wondering about that

[copper monolith]

it's the most tracked flight

[copper monolith]

ye

[wind meteor]

🤝 Not in Ukraine, trying to do the little I can

Alight, I'll just repost it

[paper cedar]

Maybe it's the airplane that could have been used to transport the president of Ukraine?

[hushed magnet]

it was talked about earlier im pretty sure

[wind meteor]

Hello! My name is Ania and I am Ukrainian.

If you follow the news, you may know that my country is at war right now.
The link below leads to a petition for NATO to close the airspace over Ukraine.
This would mean that EU will have to retaliate against any aircraft that enters our airspace.
Our army is incredibly fierce and performing above all expectations, but we still need any help we can get.
You can support us by signing this petition!

Do note: the page might not load right away, possibly due to high traffic. Please be patient.

https://www.openpetition.eu/petition/online/people-around-the-world-ask-nato-to-close-the-airspace-over-ukraine

[nocturne osprey]

sleep well

[paper cedar]

have a good night

[hushed magnet]

nah, there was a conversation about it earlier, but idk enough about that shit to say what it was lmao

[copper monolith]

oh?

[hushed magnet]

i guess just scroll up a bit in the chat

[copper monolith]

it's a US Airforce plane, also the president is not leaving the capital

[cerulean canyon]

Welcome, Ania! I hope you are able to stay safe in these stressful times

[solid adder]

oh my god

[nocturne bobcat]

https://www.openpetition.eu/content/about_us for reference for anyone wanting to read up on openpetition's about us statements

[solid adder]

lmaooooo

[paper cedar]

I meant like before he said he doesn't want it

actually hmm that was a solid 1 day ago

[hushed magnet]

i feel like this would escalate things further no?

[copper monolith]

yeah

[paper cedar]

a friend told me it's a spy plane

[icy ridge]

Bruh 22,000 tracking a spy plane... shouldn't a spy plane be uhm you know confidential or???

[hushed magnet]

a war between Russia and NATO would not be good

[paper cedar]

ikr

[fierce arch]

thats the point

[paper cedar]

at least the spy plane is only spying on the russian ships

[fierce arch]

its to send russia a message

[hushed magnet]

here was the conversation

[split aurora]

ik this is like 15min old but forte11 has been there for a week or so

[copper monolith]

noticed that the plane flies just outside the EEZ

[split aurora]

its a high altitude surveillance drone

[copper monolith]

ooh

[split aurora]

originally it was over ukrine then moved to black sea when the invasion begun

[nocturne bobcat]

Oh yeah the drone]

It's just kinda been chilling over the black sea for a hot minute now

Usually those tend to be recon/surveying drones, where in the event that maybe communications get downed in Ukraine and we have no more visuals or anything of what's going on, they have a means to check out the area and whatnot

[split aurora]

theres a crap tonne of us/uk planes flying round Romania/Poland day after day

mix of recon, air to air refueling, and combat

[nocturne bobcat]

But it's just sitting in what's effectively neutral area until there's a need to send it over Ukraine

[split aurora]

there was a euro fighter typhoon going up and down the poland/ukraine border the other day

that was pretty cool

[nocturne bobcat]

It dootin'

[fierce arch]

the point of it

is to send a message

[split aurora]

tbf their surveillance can no doubt also penetrate ukraine already

those things have huge range

[nocturne bobcat]

Oh for sure

[split aurora]

but yeah its to send a message too

it could absolutely go dark if it wanted to

In my home in the uk a military chopper flew overhead yesterday at quite low level, never once showed up on flightradar

[nocturne bobcat]

Yup yup

[split aurora]

it was low enough my smartphone could take a picture good enough clarity to make out the type of vessel with ease

[nocturne bobcat]

There's also been recon drones from Sicily flying over Ukraine and the Black Sea as well

[wind meteor]

Honestly? I do not believe we are important enough to Putin that he will be satisfied with conquering Ukraine and stopping there.
So, NATO thinks there is an option of "leave Ukraine to fend for itself to sate the beast". There really isn't. We need help, because we are a buffer between Russia and EU. Just like we were a buffer between Germany and the rest of Soviet Union. Look how that turned out.

[split aurora]

I'm not signing it as I don't want to see a full war between nato and russia

[paper cedar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_RQ-4_Global_Hawk

[split aurora]

I don't think that's in anyones interests

[paper cedar]

nice plane

[nocturne bobcat]

A lot of it is just to have extra monitoring without needing to send actual people there

[split aurora]

including ukraine

[nocturne bobcat]

o it big (talking about the plane, not the tweet)

[split aurora]

war crime number 28185

[solid adder]

link dont just give screenshot

[haughty yew]

The fuck, Russia?

[icy ridge]

Oh my fucking god (sorry for language) but bloddy helll 😭

[hushed magnet]

yeah i agree, but a war between Russia and NATO isnt the solution to that

[molten tartan]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497664944023773190

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Russian artillery fire has struck Kyiv's children's cancer hospital Okhmadyt, killing one child and wounding two, along with two adults, TSN reported.

Eyewitnesses reported that the city is under fire from multiple-launch rocket systems.

Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 8:08 PM

[solid adder]

ty

[nocturne bobcat]

mm actually

[limber wagon]

dafuq

[nocturne bobcat]

It's a legit source but

It's not translated

Lemme find a better one

[icy ridge]

The International Court of Justice is really gonna have a field day once this is all over

[molten tartan]

Kyiv independent has been very reliable so far

[nocturne bobcat]

It's hyperlinked from Kyiv Independent, but I'm having a hard time finding a translated article. The link itself comes from an outside news source though

[molten tartan]

This is genuinely horrible

[wind meteor]

You do you

[split aurora]

Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-ukraine in every possible way

I just don't believe that starting air to air combat between nato and Russia is beneficial

[hushed magnet]

agreed tbh

[split aurora]

And I fear that will cause kyiv to turn into a nuclear wasteland

[wind meteor]

I am however going to point out that this petition came from the official national channel of Ukraine, so it is what the country is trying to do

[cerulean canyon]

Very good point

I already signed it with that in mind so

[split aurora]

fair

[nocturne bobcat]

The petition site you linked also seems to be pretty legit in terms of actually getting the petitions sent to the people they need to get to

[fierce arch]

the idea of a no fly zone

[wind meteor]

Yeah, wouldn't be spreading it so actively otherwise

[fierce arch]

would piss off russia so much

[nocturne bobcat]

Yup yup

[split aurora]

yeah, but they have a track record of almost nothing passing

[fierce arch]

for basically no benefit

[split aurora]

sadly thats by nature of petitions

[fierce arch]

and this is a war

[wind meteor]

Russia is already pissed off

[icy ridge]

The guy on BBC is saying the same thing as well

[fierce arch]

nobody is gonna care about a petition

[cerulean canyon]

It doesn't hurt to try.

[split aurora]

agreed 100%

if you think this is beneficial, go for it

I regularly sign petitions

[hushed magnet]

petitions are always worth a try for sure

[split aurora]

only one time has one i signed succeeded

[nocturne bobcat]

True, but it's definitely much more reliable than GoFundMe/Changedotorg- there is evidence to show on that website that the petitions have some sort of weight in some situations, though it's not clear whether it was the result of the petition alone that caused those changes to happen

[cerulean canyon]

Good point

[split aurora]

I also stress to everyone, the most important thing you can do for ukraine is always donate

donate donate donate
and if you don't have money, share the links, share the message

[icy ridge]

Wait who is speaking in BBC right now??

[hushed magnet]

theres donation links pinned right?

[icy ridge]

Yup

[nocturne bobcat]

Yup yup

[wind meteor]

I have to say, I am not trying to forcing anyone to sign it, just providing additional arguments.
Everybody chooses for themselves and I apologize if I sound rash at any point.

[nocturne bobcat]

un

[nocturne bobcat]

and un*

[fierce arch]

thats uh

well

[nocturne bobcat]

No worries - every little bit helps

[icy ridge]

Hmm....What us the point when they are just you know passing through with their armies?

[nocturne bobcat]

Just wanted to help to provide context for those who might not have checked out the site you'd linked

[nocturne osprey]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497668414575370241?t=OITj4Ofe8wBArAlfarYCYA&s=19

NEXTA (@nexta_tv)

⚡️The United States will transfer an unnamed number of "Stinger" air defense systems to #Kyiv as part of a new $350 million arms shipment to #Ukraine.

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 8:22 PM

[vocal wren]

There is also a good chance they are sending other gear aswell, but don't want to let the Russians know what

[solid adder]

fuck em up

[hushed magnet]

o7

[fierce arch]

well of course they're sending other gear

[nocturne bobcat]

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-approves-350-million-military-aid-ukraine-2022-02-26/

[split aurora]

This is wholesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPKsFy4YhlY❤️

[fierce arch]

also

other nations

are sending aid to ukraine too

The Pentagon said the weapons included anti-armor, small arms, body armor and various munitions in support of Ukraine's front-line defenders. In addition, a State Department spokesperson said the materiel included anti-aircraft systems.

[stone vigil]

biden looks so sad

[solid adder]

damn rt banned in Ukraine

[nocturne bobcat]

Well considering Putin has a history of starting international conflict with people under dem administrations in the US, I'd be sad and stressed af too lol

[cerulean canyon]

True

[nocturne bobcat]

I worded that really weirdly but hopefully the point got across

[cerulean canyon]

Yo I mean, y'all saw what Obama looked like his first year in presidency vs his last, the man literally went gray. Shits stressful

[nocturne bobcat]

Yupppp

[hushed magnet]

youtube fucking finally doing something useful for once

[limber wagon]

I cant believe mr streamer man is banned

[icy ridge]

Well I mean it was a direct request from the government

[haughty yew]

But still, it’s great that it happened

[split aurora]

11bit studios have raised over $160,000 in 24hours through this appeal ❤️

[icy ridge]

I think for the current situation.....we have to pause the joke of rt the streamer and rt the news channel 🙏

[limber wagon]

I'm not sure a small inconsequential joke is that big of a deal every now and then

[hushed magnet]

💙 💛

[cerulean canyon]

I agree tbh

[split aurora]

This war of mine is an incredible game and I strongly recommend it

I used this as oppourtunity to purchase the game DLC

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/two-danish-reporters-shot-injured-eastern-ukraine-2022-02-26/

[molten tartan]

Oh God

[split aurora]

:/

[molten tartan]

I mean

[nocturne bobcat]

Welp

[molten tartan]

in all fairness

they were in a warzone

[copper monolith]

[haughty yew]

Well shit

[split aurora]

Shooting on a journalist is a war crime

[nocturne bobcat]

Isn't Denmark part of NATO

[split aurora]

yep

[split aurora]

thooooough it happens constantly

[hushed magnet]

add that to the list

[haughty yew]

Well it’s not like we haven’t seen those yet

[nocturne bobcat]

They've committed loads of war crimes, but yes the shooting journalists part is absolutely going to cause shit

[split aurora]

*Shooting

Both 2 journalists are alive

[nocturne bobcat]

Shooting*

Yeah my bad

Will edit

[split aurora]

hopefully they remain that way

[haughty yew]

That’s good

[tame harness]

Does anyone know about the Japanese ship that was hit?

[nocturne bobcat]

Yup

Only one injury was reported, and the crew took the ship to Turkey for assessment

[molten tartan]

hadn't heard of that

[nocturne bobcat]

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/02/26/national/ukraine-japan-shipping/

[hushed magnet]

this

[fierce arch]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/swift-payments-crackdown-on-russia-edges-closer/ar-AAUlEdr?ocid=BingNewsSearch

[stark harness]

Oh fuck

[fierce arch]

swift is basically like paypal for countries

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-readies-troops-for-ukraine-support-activating-for-first-time-ever-its-response-force

also

[copper monolith]

page doesn't exist

[molten tartan]

page doesn't exist

[split aurora]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-readies-troops-for-ukraine-support-activating-for-first-time-ever-its-response-force/ar-AAUlyBb

fixed

[copper monolith]

[hushed magnet]

[icy ridge]

[cerulean canyon]

my heart sank into my stomach

[fierce arch]

they're not gonna go into ukraine

but

just go into surrounding nato countries like romania and poland

[tame harness]

I want NATO to help but if they do ...

[icy ridge]

Also I bought "This war of mine" along with their DLCs glad all of the profits this week goes to the Ukraine Effort and Victims

[buoyant sundial]

How is this not the beginning of WWIII

[icy ridge]

Close basically 11:55 if it's midnight countdown

[hushed magnet]

i mean, ukraine isnt a NATO member

but if a war breaks out between Russia and NATO then well...

[buoyant sundial]

“World war 3” will basically just mean that the majority of the countries of the world have some kind of involvement

[fierce arch]

thats not what world war 3 means

[buoyant sundial]

How not

[hushed magnet]

europe isnt the only continent lol

[fierce arch]

the word ww3 is stupid anyways

its not ww3 when any 2 great powers get into conflict

[buoyant sundial]

I know but america has become involved monetarily already

[icy ridge]

It is if they have alliances especially Nato

[hushed magnet]

america gets involved in foreign wars regularly

[fierce arch]

and the term ww3 is so overused it just has no meaning

[nocturne bobcat]

zzz

[zealous rapids]

How so

[hushed magnet]

true

[buoyant sundial]

In world war 2, the us also didn’t join until almost the end

[nocturne bobcat]

"to be a World War, a conflict must (1) be fought over most of then then-known world, (2) must include most of the major powers throughout that known world, and (3) must be a "big" conflict which fully engages the combatants." - source history.stackexchange(dot)com

[buoyant sundial]

Trade restrictions

[fierce arch]

every nato country is very wary of getting involved

[tired scaffold]

until almost the end
uhm

[icy ridge]

2 & 3 would be met if conflict arises with NATO

[nocturne bobcat]

Wikipedia also defines world wars as "a war engaged in by all or most of the principal nations of the world". The term is usually reserved for two major international conflicts that occurred during the first half of the 20th century: World War I (1914–1918) and World War II (1939–1945)."

[buoyant sundial]

Until after Pearl Harbor

[fierce arch]

pearl harbor

was literally 1941

[buoyant sundial]

But they contributed financially to Europe before that

[fierce arch]

that is beginning of ww2

[buoyant sundial]

?

[hushed magnet]

which was in the 1st half of WW2

[buoyant sundial]

What

[tired scaffold]

Yes, which was just before the middle point

[split aurora]

the UK would have died if not from US financial support in 1940

🤷‍♂️

[nocturne bobcat]

I thought ww1 started after Ferdinand of Austria was assassinated

[buoyant sundial]

WWI and WWII were two entirely different conflicts.

[buoyant sundial]

Yes.

[split aurora]

are we really gonna spend hours arguing over definitions

[hushed magnet]

what are you trying to say

[tired scaffold]

WWI started when Austria invaded Serbia for the assassination of the Archduke, and WWII started when Germany invaded Poland in 1939

[nocturne bobcat]

I just wanted to provide context on what World Wars were defined as to avoid weird hypothetical discussions and arguing semantics tbh

[copper monolith]

guys pls

[nocturne bobcat]

Cause this chat's got a pretty wackass habit of devolving into arguments based on pretty much nothing

which detracts from the real situation at hand

[hushed magnet]

true

[nocturne bobcat]

but I digress

[copper monolith]

agre

[buoyant sundial]

That they weren’t the same war, and that “world war two” wasn’t just the last half of World War One…

[buoyant sundial]

^

[fierce arch]

i meant to say

ww2

[tired scaffold]

turns out it was a typo

[buoyant sundial]

Ok good

[fierce arch]

lmfao

[buoyant sundial]

I prefer having people informed correctly all of the time

[nocturne bobcat]

Here's some info on the refugees btw https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-poland-migration-united-nations-c3af8a01b6abdfafb022930d9749efa0

[buoyant sundial]

Non-truths or incorrect facts almost always lead to bad thing happening.

[nocturne bobcat]

Recapping and adding info on how things are going with them

[hushed magnet]

ok can people stop screaming about how "this is the start of ww3" the second anything happens?

[fierce arch]

^

[nocturne bobcat]

WW3 will be declared officially if and when it gets to that point, yeah

[copper monolith]

cool drawings https://twitter.com/MattMcBradley/status/1497672326606950409?s=20&t=cyfb797UtYyjGDc7fRX97w

Matt Bradley (@MattMcBradley)

As we near the end of day three of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, here are the losses Ukraine's military has imposed on #Russia's armed forces, according to #Ukraine's Ministry of Defense. #UkraineUnderAttack https://t.co/0v4clq6UYC

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 8:38 PM

[nocturne bobcat]

It's okay to be worried and scared, but it's definitely not something we should be jumping to the conclusion of every time there's a new developing situation, agreed

[hushed magnet]

like, its not helping anyone, and more often than not its just sensationalism

yup

[nocturne bobcat]

Love visual graphics

[keen sorrel]

Wonder how much that costs

[hushed magnet]

is it just more or is the title really hard to read

does it mean these are the Russian losses inflicted by Ukraine?

[solid adder]

yes

[keen sorrel]

If true of course

[molten tartan]

"Cannons"

I mean

Yeah I guess artillery are cannons

[haughty yew]

Meta = Facebook

For those who don’t know

[tame harness]

I'm quite impressed that Ukraine can hold off their invasion this well. I still hope they can hold out longer

[nocturne bobcat]

Yeahhhh Russia didn't like that Facebook kept putting little fact check indicators on their posts

And doubly didn't like that Facebook wouldn't stop doing it per their demands

So Russia was like "lol we'll just censor you since you're censoring us!", and Meta was like "ok, you can't advertise here anymore lol"

[nocturne bobcat]

From yesterday regarding the Facebook/Russia situation - there's some better, less meme-y simplified context provided in that timeframe as well

And for those who may have missed it: https://www.reuters.com/technology/youtube-blocks-rt-other-russian-channels-generating-revenue-2022-02-26/

https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-bar-russian-state-media-running-ads-monetizing-platform-2022-02-26/ Source for the Facebook headline as well

[haughty yew]

Russia is losing the censorship battle

[fierce arch]

ukraine has god on its side now

[hushed magnet]

didnt the pope also tell putin he was going to hell or something

[fierce arch]

based pope

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/JamesERothwell/status/1497614678377349120

James Rothwell (@JamesERothwell)

On the highway out of Kyiv - the Ukrainians have ripped down the road signs so the Russians get lost and put up another one that says "good luck"

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 4:48 PM

"Good luck" lmfao

[hushed magnet]

he didnt, he said he didnt support the invasion iirc

lmfao

[nocturne bobcat]

https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-europe-religion-florence-e593465a714b79047ee7f6cfc51b0c08

Pope sauce

[buoyant sundial]

Oh no why is Dan unable to earn ad money

All ill-taste jokes aside… That’s a pretty shitty coincidence for a shared name… I kinda feel bad for Dan.

[fierce arch]

there are only so many 2 letter combinations of letters

[icy ridge]

o7

https://youtu.be/14gVDF2b1vA

[nocturne bobcat]

Is there a link source for this? I'm not finding any news articles mentioning it

Would make sense if it's super recent news but having sources to refer to would be very helpful

[stone vigil]

it seems to be text, which I assume is the source itself, but I could be wrong

[copper monolith]

ui looks like telegram idk

[hushed magnet]

isnt that the official telegram channel?

[stone vigil]

idk if it's telegram or a broadcast channel in whatsapp, looks like the latter, but I could be wrong, I dont know telegram

[hushed magnet]

yeah it is

https://t.me/s/verkhovnaradaofukraine

[nocturne bobcat]

I'm seeing sources that he's being hailed a hero by Ukrainian people, but not anything about an official decree to award him with the hero of Ukraine medal

I should clarify*

[rare walrus]

Just got back from robotics, anything i miss?

[nocturne osprey]

ye

[hushed magnet]

https://t.me/verkhovnaradaofukraine/107

this is literally the post

[nocturne bobcat]

Huh

Idk why it is but I couldn't find any media reporting on it, didn't realize Telegram was a messaging app

Not very commonly used around here tbh [american moment]

[zealous rapids]

Ye

[nocturne bobcat]

also can't view the verified account without having the telegram app

[hushed magnet]

you can

at least on desktop its fine

[nocturne bobcat]

Clicking "View in Telegram" doesn't do anything for me

[hushed magnet]

you should be able to go to the desktop site

[nocturne bobcat]

OH I have to click the little grey text

underneath the button

[molten tartan]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497679110268727310

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Governor Mykolayiv Oblast Vitaly Kim says Russian tanks attacked Mykolayiv and were moving through the city.

Heavy fighting was reported in Mykolayiv earlier on that day. Kim later posted a video denying reports he had been captured.

Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 9:05 PM

[copper monolith]

round 2 https://twitter.com/MarquardtA/status/1497676693359796224?s=20&t=k6PAaYJWJP9E_MBwcwwJSg

Alexander Marquardt (@MarquardtA)

Sirens right now in Kyiv https://t.co/14QDuibKOy

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 8:55 PM

[zinc talon]

https://www.newsy.com/stories/how-russia-s-false-flags-set-the-stage-for-war-in-ukraine/ if someone is interested in how fake videos are debunked and how russia is trying to manipulate the media

[molten tartan]

God

those sirens are terrifying

[nocturne bobcat]

Those sirens are just

fuck

[stone vigil]

Jesus Christ

[rare walrus]

Those sirens, jesus, i cant even begin to imagine what it must be like out there on the ground

[zinc talon]

EXCLUSIVE: EU countries close airspace for Russian airlines. Just confirmed to me from a reliable source.

Source: ARD Capital Studio

[molten tartan]

Even worse

[buoyant sundial]

What

Oh shit

…is that real though

[haughty yew]

Oh god

[solid adder]

supposedly they've been a good source so far

kyiv independent

[grizzled steeple]

Best wishes to you folks there, as always

[buoyant sundial]

It seems like there is a bunch of misinformation so far, just trying to make sure everything’s accurate.

[buoyant sundial]

Yes, agreed.

[leaden grove]

Pets!

[copper monolith]

ye

keeping an eye on this stream, 8 cams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8yBajlwRwU

[zinc talon]

https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1497544371624943617

Hanna Liubakova (@HannaLiubakova)

Brest, #Belarus, a few kilometers from the border with Poland, the NATO country. All equipment is marked with the letter V. We are asking Belarusians to send us information🇷🇺 troops.

By deploying the troops on the border with Poland, Putin also wants to threaten NATO https://t.co/AiqSifZQOZ

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 12:09 PM

[nocturne osprey]

what does the V mean

[zinc talon]

idk

[leaden grove]

It’s to prevent friendly fire

[buoyant sundial]

I’m not sure if this is an accurate tweet or not tbh…

[copper monolith]

if it's the Cyrillic V, then it might mean Vojna, which means "war"

[leaden grove]

Eh

[copper monolith]

or just something dumb idk

[leaden grove]

They‘re also a Z on some vehicles

[copper monolith]

unlikely to be war or "Vladimir"

[leaden grove]

But like I said, it‘s to prevent them from shooting at each other

[buoyant sundial]

There’s so much conflicting info that I am honestly not sure what is and isn’t real news or info

[leaden grove]

That‘s why I‘d recommending reading high-quality newspapers

And being wary of anything on social media

And even with newspapers, you‘ll still want to check a few of them and compare things

[nocturne bobcat]

^^^

[leaden grove]

Some websites you could check (in English):
The New York Times, The Guardian, Financial Times, BBC, NPR, Washington Post etc.

Independent Ukrainian and Russian newspapers in English:
Kyiv Post, Kyiv Independent, The Moscow Times, Meduza

Be extremely wary of anything published by Russia Today/RT, TASS and their affiliates

[zinc talon]

@copper monolith could we pin this? for people looking for sources

[copper monolith]

some of those are already

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497687033333968901?s=20&t=bCIs1cUw0Uw0w86nE-l-yw

Rob Lee (@RALee85)

Video reportedly from Kharkiv tonight. Sounds like MLRS fire among other things.
https://t.co/ZKkwE2CKc1 https://t.co/IlxMMNHLL9

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 9:36 PM

[nocturne bobcat]

https://libguides.ucmerced.edu/news/reputable
https://libguides.com.edu/c.php?g=649909&p=4581077
Some good resources that teach you how to determine whether a source is credible or not, as well as listed Pulitzer Prize Winning News Sources

[nocturne bobcat]

Doesn't cover every single reputable journalistic site, but names some big ones

[leaden grove]

It’s a bit US-centric but yeah

[copper monolith]

https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1497688029808324611

olexander scherba🇺🇦 (@olex_scherba)

RU paratroopers being deployed right now in the sky over my Kyiv. Will never, ever, ever forgive these days and hours to Putin - and Russia.

#PutinHitler #PutinIsaWarCriminal
#StandWithUkraine https://t.co/aCXnW897Bt

Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 9:40 PM

[solid adder]

mmmmmm

[nocturne bobcat]

Yeah for sure that's a big caveat - the big takeaway is how to determine what constitutes as a credible source and how to use resources to fact check and all that jazz

[leaden grove]

That‘s a suicide mission if those are really paratroopers

[nocturne bobcat]

It'd be really good to have a more comprehensive global list that's covering the current events, agreed

[leaden grove]

I might compile a more comprehensive one tomorrow

[nocturne bobcat]

Bless

Would be doing the good work

[zinc talon]

this is in Sofijiwska Borschtschahiwka outside of the town

[copper monolith]

what

[leaden grove]

The sad thing is that German TV doesn’t even have any reporters in Ukraine anymore 👀

[nocturne bobcat]

big rip

[leaden grove]

All they do is sit in Moscow and watch CNN

[molten tartan]

Is that real?

[leaden grove]

Unconfirmed

[copper monolith]

idk

[leaden grove]

But there’s an air raid alert of Kyiv

[fierce arch]

if its not confirmed

itd be best not to post it

[copper monolith]

from the verified acc of Ukranian's ambassador to Austria

[leaden grove]

I‘d wait a few hours

It‘ll be an eventful night anyways

[molten tartan]

It's a suicide mission

[split aurora]

Why does russia keep trying para drops

[molten tartan]

surely not

[split aurora]

every time they try they get encircled and massacred

[molten tartan]

into a heavily defended city

[copper monolith]

cuz its cool in Red Alert 2

[nocturne bobcat]

Agreed

[split aurora]

Russia have come at this with no decent strategy

[molten tartan]

and with the locals armed to the teeth

[split aurora]

fucking idiots

[fierce arch]

paratroopers were good at like

ww2

[molten tartan]

not even then

[rare walrus]

yeah, paratroopers are mainly just good at launching near a site, not directly at it. this is practically suicide

[copper monolith]

hearing that the pic is fake, can't even trust verified gov officials 😔

[nocturne bobcat]

For the record, this is important to note in regards to the videos of paratroopers spread around two days ago

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/russian-paratroopers-ukraine/

[leaden grove]

I think that some generals are just like
"Hey, have we used the paratroopers yet?"
"No, sir"
"Send them in!"
"But, Sir-"
"Let‘s go for it"

[copper monolith]

fuck

[solid adder]

yeah

[leaden grove]

Yeah, they should be tried for war crimes after that

[viral junco]

another war crime by these fucking pigs

[rare walrus]

jesus christ, that's terrible

[rocky stag]

fucking hell

[tired scaffold]

Even in WW2 paratroopers weren't all that great

[leaden grove]

Paratroopers are great for certain purposes but not for fighting tanks

[rare walrus]

yeah, they're mainly used for more special ops, not a direct battle

[cerulean canyon]

What the fuck

[leaden grove]

It’s like using a tank to attack a navy ship

[zinc talon]

would make more sense

[viral junco]

if it's flanking an enemy and taking by surprise then yes it is a tactic that is viable

[tired scaffold]

The nearest comparison (an invasion against a smaller nation with everything to lose) would probably be the German paratrooper invasion of Crete, and they got slowed down a lot by the civilian resistance

[rare walrus]

true, however id still think that paratroopers would be better deployed out of an active air defense zone and instead near it

[opal cloak]

Ukraine is dyin

Wait

No

The ghost of kyiv has struck again

A russian plane went silent after it flew over the black sea

[viral junco]

I am studying at the moment the battle of the merville battery, a key example of how using paratroopers can go incredibly wrong

650 paratroopers expected with equipment on dday, only 150 showed up for the battle, half were killed

[opal cloak]

The effing ghost of kyiv has struck again

[viral junco]

*of the 75

[rare walrus]

yeah, using paratroopers in general is unreliable and risky

[copper monolith]

ghost of Kyiv is unfortunately fake 😔

[molten tartan]

good for morale though

[opal cloak]

No it isnt

[molten tartan]

let's pretend it is

[nocturne bobcat]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-this-ghost-of-kyiv-video-real/

[opal cloak]

Ah

[molten tartan]

Is*

why did I say isn't?

[copper monolith]

manj

[opal cloak]

well then who got the 6 kills of the russian fighters

Because they cant fake that

[zinc talon]

also with air raids incoming it wouldnt make too much sense to land troops via air drops

[grizzled steeple]

The collective air force?

[nocturne bobcat]

Well the only thing the Snopes article refers to in regards to that is

"While this video does not feature genuine footage, the general of the Ukrainian armed forces claimed that they had truly downed several Russian aircraft. CNN reported:

The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces has claimed five Russian aircraft and a helicopter were shot down early Thursday, as Russian forces attacked Ukraine.

The Russian military has denied the claims, state news agency TASS reported on Thursday."

[rare walrus]

that is also very true, it would be quite risky for paratroopers to be deployed in the middle of a missile strike

[nocturne bobcat]

So it's kinda hard to know in a he-said she-said situation

[buoyant sundial]

Exactly

[rare walrus]

yeah

whatever the case, Ukraine in general has done an outstanding job at repelling and holding back the russian troops/aircraft

[grizzled steeple]

Lithuania is banning Russian flights starting midnight

[opal cloak]

While the US is currently operating a UAV over the regions of the black sea, id hope that it doesnt cross any borders

[solid adder]

good

[opal cloak]

Just because the us doesnt need to get involved like that

And start a huge war

[rare walrus]

yeah, the strange bit about it is that the UAV has its transponder on or whatever the thing that lets it be seen from its spy tech is

[opal cloak]

Yeah

Theyre showing power

[nocturne bobcat]

The drone in question iirc is usually used as recon - the US isn't the only one flying recon drones around the black sea, and in fact Sicily has active recon drones flying in and out of Ukraine land

[opal cloak]

Letting the russians know theyre being watched

Theyre doing it on purpose

[nocturne bobcat]

But I agree that it's a very sensitive situation

And any misstep could cause a lot of chaos

[rare walrus]

yeah, and it might be letting others see as well so the russians dont shoot it down either knowing its a us drone

[grizzled steeple]

Follow-up: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/lithuania-closes-its-airspace-russian-airlines-government-2022-02-26/

[nocturne bobcat]

That's what I figure as well

[opal cloak]

If i can see it from flightradar24 then the russians can see it no doubt

[rare walrus]

indeed

[nocturne bobcat]

And in the event that we lose communication with Ukraine, we have a drone available in the area to send us information quickly

[rare walrus]

quite true

[opal cloak]

How long is it supposed to stay out there

[nocturne bobcat]

Good question tbh

[opal cloak]

Its been out there for like 16 hours now

[nocturne bobcat]

However long the situation goes on for I'm sure

[rare walrus]

its getting refuels from nearby u.s. bases

[opal cloak]

And i know it has to come back at some point

[nocturne bobcat]

^^

[rare walrus]

and there are some u.s. refueling planes flying around the black sea as well i believe

[opal cloak]

Not around it but earlier there was one at the airbase in sicily

[rare walrus]

ah i see

[opal cloak]

And im also seeing usaf planes in iran

Fun

[split aurora]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t25e4t/it_is_reported_that_the_armed_forces_of_ukraine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Allegedly a captured Russian Major

[fierce arch]

reddit

[copper monolith]

no russkies over my head 😎

[fierce arch]

the most reliable source of news

[opal cloak]

reddit isnt reliable m8

[keen sorrel]

Neither is twitter but here we are tweeting left and right

[rare walrus]

hmm, if thats true (which im not too sure it is) than that is quite good, however it is reddit so im not sure

[rare walrus]

yeah thats fair

[buoyant sundial]

Exactly

[copper monolith]

nice

[opal cloak]

Ok so

[copper monolith]

[opal cloak]

Im seeing 3 C-130 airships in iran area rn

[split aurora]

https://twitter.com/YourAnonTV/status/1497678663046905863

Anonymous TV 🌐 (@YourAnonTV)

JUST IN: #Russian state TV channels have been hacked by #Anonymous to broadcast the truth about what happens in #Ukraine.

#OpRussia #OpKremlin #FckPutin #StandWithUkriane https://t.co/vBq8pQnjPc

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 9:03 PM

[cerulean canyon]

This emoji is very good

[opal cloak]

And a refueling tanker

[copper monolith]

no u

[opal cloak]

And a bombardier E-11a

[buoyant sundial]

This doesn’t seem true tbh…

[cerulean canyon]

no
No you

[viral junco]

if true, get fucked

or rather he knows he is fucked in that video

[nocturne bobcat]

"It is reported that the Armed Forces of Ukraine captured a major of the Russian army" OP proceeds to not link/source the report of the situation

[split aurora]

I only posted it here because it was interesting, no comment on credibility, we'll see that in time

[rare walrus]

so from a map, it looks like all airzones surrounding ukraine besides belarus and maybe? lithuania and romainia (not sure if theyve banned russian flights thorugh them) is shut down to russian flights

[nocturne bobcat]

Not a jab at you for the record char

[opal cloak]

Why cant i post pictures in here

[nocturne bobcat]

just grumbling at reddit op

[opal cloak]

Oh wait

Nvm

[buoyant sundial]

I most certainly support it if this is true, but I’m not sure it is…

[keen sorrel]

You said allegedly, which is all you needed to do. Nothing wrong here

[opal cloak]

Lithuania has

[rare walrus]

ah alright, cool

[opal cloak]

Or itll be coming into effect soon

Like tonight

[rare walrus]

ah i see

[opal cloak]

Forte11 is out there putting in the work

[nocturne bobcat]

brain machine broke

[zinc talon]

"Russian forces have shot a journalist in Kherson, according to Ukrainska Pravda, citing Prosecutor General Iryna Venediktova"

[nocturne bobcat]

idk why I mentioned phoenix's name

[opal cloak]

Its basically surveyed that whole coastline now

[rare walrus]

im guessin they're lookin for possibly russian warships and might be relaying the info to ukraine?

[fierce arch]

no

[opal cloak]

Not on the Black Sea

[fierce arch]

its just to send a warning to rusisa

[split aurora]

I posted reuters article earlier, 2 danish reporters were shot

unless this is a new one?

[opal cloak]

Yea

Knowing that theyre watching them closely puts a limit on what they can do

[rare walrus]

true

[opal cloak]

I feel bad for the operator of that drone lmao

Having to sit and man it remotely for like 20 hours straight

[fierce arch]

why

you don't think they hand control? lmfao

[zinc talon]

seems to be another one