the vast majority of Europe is united
#the_ukraine_situation
silk iron
opal cloak
ok
silk iron
be it in the EU or NATO
white quail
if putin expands more im pretty sure it’ll happen
nocturne bobcat
It's incredible (not in a good way) watching the journalists speak with the Russian soldiers in captured parts of Ukraine
granite jewel
the vast majority of Europe is united
Doesn't make me less worried
lusty dune
If Russia did escalate the conflict beyond Ukraine, he’d have to deal with nato
white quail
If Russia did escalate the conflict beyond Ukraine, he’d have to deal with nato
thats the one
icy ridge
It's incredible (not in a good way) watching the journalists speak with the Russ...
CAPTURED PARTS?
ruby forge
Ye
lofty heart
CAPTURED PARTS?
Well yeah, it's a war
white quail
yeah thats a given at this point tho
granite jewel
Im worried about the civilians
silk iron
it wouldn't be possible to expand beyond Ukraine without integrating the conquered territory first either way.
nocturne osprey
ruby forge
The russian army has captured areas
white quail
ofc they’ll have some land claimed
opal cloak
doesn't putin want to be the leader of Russia for a long while
nocturne osprey
The russian army has captured areas
apparently they've captured Chernobyl
silk iron
dictator for life yes
white quail
isnt it a dictatorship over there
opal cloak
https://twitter.com/planet/status/1496901514996031510/photo/2
damn that's very bad
icy ridge
Is there a live invasion map or something?
cerulean canyon
Im worried about the civilians
Me too.
ruby forge
Is there a live invasion map or something?
some news site are giving map updates
granite jewel
Where will the civilians go?
cerulean canyon
There's going to be lots of casualties.
silk iron
many are evacuating to Poland/Slovakia in the west
nocturne bobcat
If Russia did escalate the conflict beyond Ukraine, he’d have to deal with nato
NATO won't do anything unless oppressive countries start personally inconveniencing us tbh
haughty yew
Im worried about the civilians
On the news they are using subways as bomb shelters. They are alive but in a very bad situation
nocturne osprey
Is there a live invasion map or something?
there's definitely military ones, guy I know in the USSF mentioned one
silk iron
some are evacuating to Moldova in the south
icy ridge
Updated map from Wikipedia
white quail
as much as it sucks we cant actually do anything about it
cerulean canyon
Post link pegasusu
granite jewel
On the news they are using subways as bomb shelters. They are alive but in a ver...
That's... Kinda bad
opal cloak
Updated map from Wikipedia
damn Wikipedia is already on it
nocturne bobcat
Hey just a heads up, be careful of any links about the Ukraine situation from anywhere
granite jewel
They're now vulnerable to being buried
cerulean canyon
Absolutely
white quail
fog of war is a thing
nocturne bobcat
Make sure you take basic measures to protect yourselves and all that
cerulean canyon
Hey just a heads up, be careful of any links about the Ukraine situation from an...
Yup
icy ridge
Hey just a heads up, be careful of any links about the Ukraine situation from an...
Yup make sure all links are verified please
white quail
for every 1 piece of information theres another 50 that arent real
opal cloak
yep
lusty dune
I’m trying to stick to reading the news for updates but it’s hard to keep up honestly
silk iron
both
white quail
is that not just covid or
silk iron
but primarily disinfo
granite jewel
Also just a lot of misinformation
hollow hollow
Are there a lot of viruses going around?
there’s a lot of malware disguised as links rn
granite jewel
Typically on twitter
cerulean canyon
I'd need a source for the virus information
nocturne bobcat
Are there a lot of viruses going around?
Cyberattacks
white quail
oh like t h a t
haughty yew
for every 1 piece of information theres another 50 that arent real
Cross check sources to try to keep the fake stuff out
nocturne bobcat
Russian cyberattacks have always been prevalent but even moreso now than before
granite jewel
What im worried is
Would other countries use this chance and try to do something similar?
cerulean canyon
I'd say yes
nocturne bobcat
Would other countries use this chance and try to do something similar?
It's not out of the realms of realism
cerulean canyon
New York times is an accredited source of information I believe
silk iron
it's a great opportunity for malware, and also cyberattacks reaching military personal who also use journalist sources for sitreps
nocturne bobcat
it's a great opportunity for malware, and also cyberattacks reaching military pe...
Yup yup
white quail
Would other countries use this chance and try to do something similar?
its happened before
nocturne osprey
It's not out of the realms of realism
gov Greg abbot must be enjoying this distraction from him
granite jewel
It's not out of the realms of realism
First country to pop into my mind when i said that is China
nocturne bobcat
gov Greg abbot must be enjoying this distraction from him
My fucking thoughts exactly
Fuck that guy
cerulean canyon
silk iron
but Taiwan is guaranteed by America
solid adder
granite jewel
Honestly
silk iron
China still believes they can get Taiwan to reintegrate into the PROC via peaceful means
cerulean canyon
It's time for coffee and heavy amounts of copium
You too, hun
silk iron
it's fine dude
cerulean canyon
People are allowed to be worried and scared.
haughty yew
Biden’s announcement got moved back to 1:30, they are probably discussing and finalizing something important on the situation
granite jewel
Im worried what would happen
silk iron
yes but keep things in perspective
lofty heart
It's not a good situation, and it's not fine, but at the same time we don't want to panic
silk iron
if you're in Ukraine or Russia i can understand why you'd be freaking out.
cerulean canyon
Biden’s announcement got moved back to 1:30, they are probably discussing and fi...
Yeah I'm guessing
cerulean canyon
if you're in Ukraine or Russia i can understand why you'd be freaking out.
Or in Europe??
icy ridge
Somebody in the House of Commons had the Audacity to ask the government to make all Russian Visas and passports be under review, thankfully PM said not all Russians are bad people
lofty heart
Panicking historically makes things worse
granite jewel
if you're in Ukraine or Russia i can understand why you'd be freaking out.
Im worried about the possibility of it escalating
white quail
my prediction as someone who isnt too knowledgeable is that nato will send more troops to surrounding nato areas as defense
cerulean canyon
I think saying don't panic increases the likelihood of panic.
white quail
^
silk iron
@granite jewel the chances are low in the shortterm
granite jewel
Plus it's more just internal worries
silk iron
Putin doesn't have the troops in place to attack NATO
lofty heart
While I disagree we mat that the situation is fine, we do need to make sure we are still trying to stay calm about the situaiton
azure plover
please know that you are safe and okay if you have nothing to do with the area. even central/western europe is okay, as well as the surrounding nato countries. being worried is normal, but please do your best to take one thing/day at a time
lofty heart
I think saying don't panic increases the likelihood of panic.
True but
cerulean canyon
Plus it's more just internal worries
Thank you for expressing them.
silk iron
Putin doesn't have the economy fund an army to attack NATO
lofty heart
I'm not gonna say we're fukcking screwed at the same time
Because that's not helpfuk
silk iron
and certainly won't have a strong economy after the barrage of sanctions placed by the West
cerulean canyon
please know that you are safe and okay if you have nothing to do with the area. ...
Thank you, Bamba 💜
azure plover
of course, dude
nocturne osprey
Putin doesn't have the economy fund an army to attack NATO
Putin could easily attack NATO
Russia is a nuclear state, remember that
silk iron
...
lofty heart
We've been over this
silk iron
nukes are a deterrent
lofty heart
Nuclear weaponry are likely never to be used
azure plover
speculation only leads to escalation, too. remember to just stick to trusted news sources and remain calm when discussing the facts
silk iron
no dictator with half a brain would nuke a country they wanted to invade
lofty heart
Because it means total annihilation of the world
hollow hollow
Russia is a nuclear state, remember that
nato has nukes too
silk iron
you get nothing from conquering a radioactive wasteland
nocturne osprey
no dictator with half a brain would nuke a country they wanted to invade
I really wouldn't put it past putin
if he can't have Ukraine why should anyone else
lofty heart
Putin may be violent, but he isn't a moron
icy ridge
you get nothing from conquering a radioactive wasteland
Technically this, what's to use of ruling over nothing
hollow hollow
I really wouldn't put it past putin
putin is a maniac but he isn’t stupid
silk iron
Putin is a detached megalomaniac but he's not insane
granite jewel
Well won't nuke the goal, he'll most likely nuke the competition
silk iron
he will 100% not nuke NATO countries
cerulean canyon
I think I'm more concerned about him nuking those who try to intervene
cerulean canyon
he will 100% not nuke NATO countries
Where are your sources my dude
silk iron
it's just big talk
lofty heart
Him nuking any country would result in everyone nuking him
cerulean canyon
You can't just use absolutes here
silk iron
you don't need a source for that
it's basic common sense from history the past 70 years
lofty heart
The likelihood of him actually using nuclear weaponry is logically quite low
icy ridge
Yes you can't just assume in absolute certainty
silk iron
99.999% then if you will
cerulean canyon
Yes you can't just assume in absolute certainty
Absolutely
icy ridge
it's basic common sense from history the past 70 years
Well we are seeing history repeating now are we? Apparently no lessons are being learned
silk iron
look Putin could hypothetically start a nuclear war (for literally 0 gain) - but you can be sure as hell he won't finish it.
no one would finish a nuclear war
nocturne bobcat
Copium machine broke hi again
Russia likes to engage in bully tactics. Bully an unprotected non-NATO country, and if NATO dares to retaliate in any way that could be perceived as violent, Russia then feels justified to take violent action against NATO
granite jewel
But it will cause a chain reaction
icy ridge
no one would finish a nuclear war
Technically you can....it ends when everyone dies
nocturne bobcat
With sympathizing countries like China and possibly even NK to help support
cerulean canyon
Copium machine broke hi again
Russia likes to engage in bully tactics. Bully an ...
Please tell me what copium is haha
silk iron
copium is telling yourself things are fine with an excuse
nocturne bobcat
It's not about whether he'll nuke Ukraine, I highly doubt he's going to nuke the country he's trying to take over but
icy ridge
Please tell me what copium is haha
Cope and opium, basically like being addicted to opium but instead on coping
silk iron
despite knowing things arent fine
white quail
^
solid adder
copium emote
cerulean canyon
Cope and opium, basically like being addicted to opium but instead on coping
Excellent then I am full of copium
hollow hollow
Please tell me what copium is haha
it’s a stupid internet buzzword
silk iron
hopium is the optimistic variant of copium
white quail
copium addicts unite
nocturne bobcat
The reason for the threats is so that, in his mind and the minds of his sympathisers, if someone attacks him in anyway they can say "well you knew what was gonna happen so really this is your fault"
icy ridge
Hopium is Hope and Opium basically the same thing but on hope
cerulean canyon
hopium is the optimistic variant of copium
Give me hopium
nocturne bobcat
All he needs is justification for wat
silk iron
copium is self-deprecating saying you're lying to yourself
nocturne bobcat
War*
granite jewel
It's been an eventful week
nocturne bobcat
And yeah copium is me lying to myself and pretending like nothing's happening by playing games or something tbh
white quail
overall,
nocturne bobcat
Everyone takes copium differently but
cerulean canyon
overall,
<:rtgameDread:943170657703825458>
Same
solid adder
It's been an eventful week
its only been 2 days since the invasion
nocturne bobcat
Yeahh
silk iron
Copium machine broke hi again
Russia likes to engage in bully tactics. Bully an ...
which is why NATO shouldn't intervene in nations not part of NATO
there were two historical incidences where NATO did get involved outside of NATO
icy ridge
which is why NATO shouldn't intervene in nations not part of NATO
But they can provide support just in supplies tho
silk iron
Libya being one
cerulean canyon
I'm watching Digimon right now, debating on ordering a fuck load of dessert from somewhere
nocturne bobcat
which is why NATO shouldn't intervene in nations not part of NATO
I agree, but living in a country that basically made Ukraine give up their nukes and high profile military weapons
And now seeing that they cannot defend themselves
Ughhh
silk iron
they couldn't use their nukes anyway
nocturne bobcat
Yeah I know just
white quail
the way im coping is that we cant actually affect what happens, right now we should only really be worried if we’re in ukraine, russia or the surrounding area, but obviously its okay to still feel anxious
silk iron
they needed advanced bombers capable of dropping those bombs, and it was neccersary to get international recognition
and lets be honest
nocturne bobcat
They've gotta be feeling pretty shit about being kicked around and left for war defenseless by NATO
silk iron
things could be a lot bloody scarier if Ukraine did have nukes right now
white quail
please know that you are safe and okay if you have nothing to do with the area. ...
this
nocturne bobcat
Cause heaven forbid we tell Russia to chill tf out before it gets to this point
silk iron
well that's appeasement for you in a nut shell
icy ridge
Euronews Social Media person on live tv right now seems so scared 😭😭 his voice is literally shaking
granite jewel
Im also worried about the families who are working abroad in Ukraine
silk iron
appeasement is fantastic for diffusing conflicts when there's a balance of power and land to hand out like candy, or when the leader isn't a mini-hitler
but... if you appease a Putin
cerulean canyon
Im also worried about the families who are working abroad in Ukraine
I've got friends in the air force in England
silk iron
you just keep feeding their ambitions
icy ridge
Can't make putty wutty angy or he'll be weally weally sad
Not the same thing happening with the west and Hitler....right before ww2 🥲
nocturne bobcat
Not the same thing happening with the west and Hitler....right before ww2 🥲
Very very similar yeah
haughty yew
Anti war protesters are being arrested in Moscow
granite jewel
It's always about land huh?
silk iron
in WW2 France was marred by internal conflicts with the French Commune and refused to show force when the Germans reoccupied the Rhineland
and Britain did not wish to act without France
icy ridge
It's always about land huh?
I think the main mission for Russia is just no NATO basically I don't think land is the main main target
nocturne osprey
Twitter
silk iron
in much the same way, we are currently reeling from a pandemic and fuel price crisis now
solid adder
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1496907315513114624?t=UDf7Ry4xnQIFGeZGTrjfUw...
lmao
icy ridge
WAIT BIDEN IS ON? WHEN?
silk iron
and our leaders don't want to start a war while our economies are weak
solid adder
WAIT BIDEN IS ON? WHEN?
30 minutes
haughty yew
Biden is on at 1:30
nocturne bobcat
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1496907315513114624?t=UDf7Ry4xnQIFGeZGTrjfUw...
Let's go crisis averted wooooo
icy ridge
Ah thanks
silk iron
this is good news
nocturne bobcat
icy ridge
Let's go crisis averted wooooo
Copium
granite jewel
What does that mean
silk iron
it means the west are united firstly
nocturne osprey
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1496907315513114624?t=UDf7Ry4xnQIFGeZGTrjfUw...
NEXTA is a Belarusian news channel for context
nocturne bobcat
I'm just being negative don't mind me, sanctions aren't useless and it's actually a big feal
Deal*
white quail
it means the west are united firstly
miracle
icy ridge
it means the west are united firstly
Yup long live NATO and EU
silk iron
secondly the Russian economy will likely take a second dip due to the sanctions
haughty yew
Yes
white quail
russia in shambles
granite jewel
Also it's 2 am
silk iron
a lot of Russian people who were neutral will move towards distaste for the war as it hits their investments
granite jewel
Brain probably going slow
silk iron
companies likewise
nocturne bobcat
secondly the Russian economy will likely take a second dip due to the sanctions
Will this affect the people it needs to affect or is it just gonna financially ruin an already impoverished populis?
Gen question*
haughty yew
Russian economy is going bad
silk iron
it'll effect both
white quail
if the sanctions are on the correct things they’ll be good
nocturne osprey
white quail
if they arent then not really
nocturne osprey
there's also this
icy ridge
You guys think there will be a 2nd Russian Revolution against Putin since Russia's economy can't survive this?
nocturne osprey
Russia going bankrupt?
probably
haughty yew
Russia going bankrupt?
Yup pretty much
nocturne osprey
You guys think there will be a 2nd Russian Revolution against Putin since Russia...
hopefully
there's a protest in st Petersburg
nocturne bobcat
Hm
silk iron
@granite jewel no... Putin moved most $ currency out of the treasury and made trade deals with China
white quail
wonder how that protest will go
nocturne osprey
silk iron
so the Russian economy can survive in the short term
icy ridge
https://fxtwitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1496905396178534409
Shouldn't they be protesting in the Kremlin?
granite jewel
<@!435775056510189579> no... Putin moved most $ currency out of the treasury and...
I'm just trying to understand it the simplest way possible
Im not into politics
silk iron
if the war with Ukraine stretches out, or occupation becomes costly with insurrection Russia could become bankrupt in the midterm
nocturne osprey
Shouldn't they be protesting in the Kremlin?
I feel that's a bit too risky
doing it at the Kremlin
silk iron
lets just say "it makes it more likely Russia will go bankrupt"
nocturne bobcat
Russian oligarchs living in other countries probably feeling pretty good about not being in Russia rn
granite jewel
lets just say "it makes it more likely Russia will go bankrupt"
So good news?
icy ridge
I feel that's a bit too risky
I've only seen people being arrested in Moscow, are they not doing this in St Petersburg or are they more anti Putin there
nocturne osprey
silk iron
but possibly bad news for the average Russian dude
nocturne bobcat
Right yeah
silk iron
however remember impoverished people make very good dissidents (if i may be rather cynical)
nocturne osprey
I've only seen people being arrested in Moscow, are they not doing this in St Pe...
not sure
dull crane
hm
nocturne bobcat
Hm
dull crane
Can I please go live in a different reality
granite jewel
I do hope it calms down more
granite jewel
Can I please go live in a different reality
Can i come with you please?
I hate it here
silk iron
so perhaps as people see their savings go up in flames, there might be more protests or at least more grumblings
icy ridge
https://fxtwitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1496903816809095222?t=wX5GKhPXl9J1nvXIFi...
Is that the Winter Palace tho?
copper monolith
icy ridge
NOOO
nocturne bobcat
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1496905889697214471?s=20&t=oZV_0IIQodLFuWnS5GUniQ
Oh
nocturne osprey
Is that the Winter Palace tho?
I think so?
granite jewel
Should i be worried that Russia took over chernobyl?
silk iron
not particularly no
white quail
it doesnt mean much no
silk iron
it's not a strategically important territory in of itself
white quail
it means theyre still fighting ukraine but besides that not really
dull crane
white quail
ah
cerulean canyon
In an effort to keep up the hopium I have ordered chocolate pie.
nocturne bobcat
so it's not completely victimless
Ah
icy ridge
Why did they want to capture Chernobyl?? It's basically a dead zone
dull crane
Chernobyl is full of wildlife
silk iron
positioning
white quail
are they trying to look like the bad guys themselves too or what
dull crane
but no much use for people
azure plover
dull crane
These are pictures taken at Chernobyl
azure plover
Why did they want to capture Chernobyl?? It's basically a dead zone
i believe that it's because it's the fastest route from russia to kyiv
cerulean canyon
source https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1496894511989108737?s=20&t=h-ll...
Jesus
icy ridge
Wait are they planning to release the nuclear waste or smth?
silk iron
nope
nocturne osprey
nah
icy ridge
Or maybe accidentally
white quail
also just a bad decision
dull crane
Also Pripyat is super close to the border
silk iron
an accident is plausible, but most high level radioactive waste is safely deep underground
dull crane
so
nocturne osprey
Also Pripyat is super close to the border
ye
dull crane
it makes sense
nocturne osprey
an accident is plausible, but most high level radioactive waste is safely deep u...
reactor 4 is on ground level
dusty jolt
dull crane
people always talk about Chernobyl but forget about the city of Pripyat next to it
smh
icy ridge
BBC has caught up with the news the Chernobyl has been captured
granite jewel
Why take hostages?
icy ridge
people always talk about Chernobyl but forget about the city of Pripyat next to ...
What's the status there
granite jewel
Leverage?
nocturne osprey
Why take hostages?
why not
nocturne bobcat
<:concern:688880827500986381>
Hey venom, you been keeping up with the F1 news with Vettel and the Russia GP?
nocturne bobcat
Tbh I didn't know whether that would be more appropriate to talk about here or the F1 chat. Felt too heavy for there and too niche for here
dull crane
this reminds me of the time I built Chernobyl in the Minecraft server
haughty yew
What if Putin goes for “if I can’t have it no one can”
nocturne osprey
What if Putin goes for “if I can’t have it no one can”
my concern exactly
white quail
he wont
granite jewel
There's a high chance he won't
silk iron
you take hostages of the nuclear engineers, because they're valuable you do'nt want them fleeing the country taking their expertise with them
granite jewel
But there's a chance he will
nocturne osprey
wouldn't be too difficult to drop a few explosives on reactor 4 and let the subsequent fallout drift into Ukraine
dull crane
icy ridge
Apparently Switzerland has joined in the Sanctions??
lofty heart
That's not useful for Russia though
dusty jolt
Hey venom, you been keeping up with the F1 news with Vettel and the Russia GP?
yeah, good to see he's making a statement on it
nocturne osprey
Apparently Switzerland has joined in the Sanctions??
good
silk iron
dear god event switzerland is no longer neutral
azure plover
i believe that it's because it's the fastest route from russia to kyiv
apologies, i said belarus here, but i meant russia, lol
dull crane
I kinda got super into Ukrainian history for a little bit there
lofty heart
If Ukraine becomes uninhabitable due to radiation, then Russia just screwed themselves
solid adder
15 mins until bidden
nocturne bobcat
yeah, good to see he's making a statement on it
For sure, it's a hell of a statement too
icy ridge
dear god event switzerland is no longer neutral
Conflicting info still researching
solid adder
says 15 minutes for me
azure plover
or, no, sorry, i think both things are true. for reference:
dull crane
wha
azure plover
cerulean canyon
says 15 minutes for me
Same
cerulean canyon
it’s 12:30 est
They moved it to 130 EST
dull crane
huh
granite jewel
2:13 am, February 25th at GMT +8
silk iron
since 6:00 GMT i think
dull crane
I forgor that the CST is behind EST, not ahead 💀
nocturne bobcat
How long has the invasion been going on for?
Depends on what you count as the invasion. If we're counting Russian troops stationed in Ukraine, then a few days now
If we're just talking in context of the actual wat
War
silk iron
that was an incursion technically
white quail
honestly @granite jewel you could be better off just closing off social medias and avoiding it
viral junco
by taking chernobyl the Russian government could very well hold europe as a whole hostage, as they could open the sarcophagus
dull crane
Yes incursion
solid adder
by taking chernobyl the Russian government could very well hold europe as a whol...
bruh
silk iron
moving troops into breakaway states of LPR and DPR was an incursion* and a violation of Ukrainian sovereignty but not an invasion
nocturne bobcat
by taking chernobyl the Russian government could very well hold europe as a whol...
The sarcophagus?
dull crane
Elephant foot
nocturne osprey
The sarcophagus?
the thing covering reactor 4
nocturne bobcat
Yeah I've got friends in Sweden who are equally annoyed with their gov for not doing anything
icy ridge
dull crane
The sarcophagus?
viral junco
destroying the sarcophagus would be a dirty bomb
nocturne bobcat
Oh link got deleted
hushed magnet
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Nuclear_Power_Plant_sarcophagus
Heres me thinking Russia had The Mummy
silk iron
yh it would also be incredibly risky and could back fire depending on how the wind changes
cerulean canyon
White House is live
icy ridge
Oh link got deleted
Sorry I deleted cause it was the wrong link ....Swiss has strengthened Russian targeted measures
hushed magnet
destroying the sarcophagus would be a dirty bomb
True but isnt the entire invasion dirty?
nocturne bobcat
Yeah no worries
lofty heart
Keep me updated on the Biden speech
cerulean canyon
Can do
lofty heart
I'm in class and cant watch atm
icy ridge
Still have 10 minutes no?
viral junco
True but isnt the entire invasion dirty?
cerulean canyon
Nope
icy ridge
Or 20 minutes
cerulean canyon
I just got the notice
copper monolith
joe biden about to do a briefing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyrvIYWsK_E
keen sorrel
Dunno why you're fixating on Chernobyl so much tbh. It's not the doomsday device you seem to think it is.
civic harness
Btw guys in the future be ready for cyber attacks. It might be targeted on government websites and data but also social media too
silk iron
it's too risky as an unconventional attack and would effectively be a terror tactic destroying the sarcophagus
nocturne bobcat
Why blow up Chernobyl when they could just blow up the exact things they want to
hushed magnet
Ohh right gotcha, thought it was just a metaphor
nocturne bobcat
With more precision and less nuclear waste in the territory they're trying to claim for themselves
azure plover
by taking chernobyl the Russian government could very well hold europe as a whol...
yeah but this would literally be self sabotage. imo it's not a real concern
nocturne osprey
nocturne bobcat
They're violent and hostile but they're not trying to destroy the land they're trying to take
icy ridge
Apparently they took it cause it's the fastest route from Belarus to Kyiv
lofty heart
Yeah
silk iron
afterall what's the point in invading a country if you can't extract resources/ value from the population the despot conquers.
icy ridge
10 minutes
nocturne bobcat
Apparently they took it cause it's the fastest route from Belarus to Kyiv
Yeah mato said something earlier that it would probably be a tactical station point to house their soldiers
For the ideal location alone
cerulean canyon
10 minutes
Yup I got the link up anyway since I got the live notice a few minutes ago
dull crane
tomato
silk iron
i dont think i said that
azure plover
Apparently they took it cause it's the fastest route from Belarus to Kyiv
i sent this a bit earlier — i half misspoke when i said belarus, but seeing as belarus stands with russia, both countries make sense as the fastest route
silk iron
sure for positioning, puts them closer to kyiv
nocturne bobcat
I thought you brought up the positioning
silk iron
but not the housing part
nocturne bobcat
Ah yeah I should've clarified that was my added piece
dull crane
At this point, I don’t think that Russia is planning on going past Ukraine, but who can say
silk iron
I guess soldiers could house themselves there?
dull crane
They’ve been eyeing Ukraine for many years
lusty dune
Hey so not Ukraine related but If you guys are a lil stressy and don’t want to be for a moment then we wanna play jackbox in vc so feel free to join to take your kind of things 💙💙
silk iron
i mean in the southern part of the exclusion zone
lofty heart
Mostly because Ukraine isn't part of any alliances
dull crane
The wild speculation isn’t helpful for civilians
icy ridge
Btw what is China saying atm we haven't heard from them today
silk iron
China said : "Guys why cant we all get a long, peace is still an option"
dull crane
The military strategists should be the ones to think about that realistically
I know our minds will jump to WWIII
cerulean canyon
Hey so not Ukraine related but If you guys are a lil stressy and don’t want to b...
Might pop in after the address
dull crane
but atm
silk iron
basically trying to feign being the mediator while effectively being neutral
civic harness
Uk is gonna expel Russia from the council of Europe
silk iron
well most of the civilians are already scared shitless and are trying to flee/ hide at home.
Some are joining the Ukrainian military
nocturne osprey
Uk is gonna expel Russia from the council of Europe
we're pushing to expel them from the G7 yes
dull crane
Well the civilians in Ukraine yeah
icy ridge
Uk is gonna expel Russia from the council of Europe
Can that happen?
silk iron
yes
civic harness
we're pushing to expel them from the G7 yes
I thought they were alreayd out?
dull crane
I mean the civilians of not Ukraine
nocturne osprey
I thought they were alreayd out?
not yet afaik
nocturne bobcat
Can that happen?
Definitely
nocturne osprey
Some are joining the Ukrainian military
civic harness
I thought they were the G8 before Russia got kicked out
civic harness
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1496879222039932928?t=f_AYmK1aAkLgYvN4b6JHYA...
That’s so heart breaking
These men have families man
silk iron
yep
icy ridge
If only we could kick out Russia from the security Council
civic harness
They’re planning too
solid adder
whens biden
icy ridge
3 mins
solid adder
ok
civic harness
Ukraine is trying to argue that Russia isn’t the successor of the USSR
icy ridge
Ukraine is trying to argue that Russia isn’t the successor of the USSR
So technically possible
silk iron
Kazakhstan was the last nation in the USSR
but Russia is the true successor state at least in a de facto sense
nocturne osprey
If only we could kick out Russia from the security Council
nocturne bobcat
That's a hell of a statement
solid adder
micdrop
icy ridge
One min here we go Biden
hushed magnet
Thats badass if nothing else
copper monolith
https://twitter.com/antoguerrera/status/1496744237253206016?t=4IlZcR-W8nrlfc7f_8...
fucking based
azure plover
i urge everyone to read this speech from zelensky https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/02/23/zelenskys-desperate-plea-for-peace/
incredibly harrowing and powerful
icy ridge
https://twitter.com/antoguerrera/status/1496744237253206016?t=4IlZcR-W8nrlfc7f_8...
Damn the comeback
haughty yew
Wow
icy ridge
Wait are they literally the only airline for Russia?
split aurora
hey friends
silk iron
hi
ruby forge
azure plover
Wait are they literally the only airline for Russia?
i googled it and it seems like they have four but aeroflot is the biggest
icy ridge
Biden be late 🥲
dull crane
Biden is late
split aurora
you can't search a thread so uh, anyone seen this yet https://twitter.com/netblocks/status/1496904885455007749 ?
granite jewel
It's almost 3 am
split aurora
you can't search a thread so uh, anyone seen this yet https://twitter.com/netblo...
this is either russia trying to geofence itself, or a US cyberattack
icy ridge
So we have a cyberwar aswell great 🥲
civic harness
My friend said a bunch of subreddits are closed
split aurora
So we have a cyberwar aswell great 🥲
we were always gonna have one
nocturne bobcat
To be fair we've always had a cyberwar with Russia
silk iron
well cyberwar was already ongoing
icy ridge
True
silk iron
this is merely a peak in the cyber conflict
nocturne bobcat
They've been astroturfing other countries' politics for a long while now
split aurora
granite jewel
Based Poland
icy ridge
Ty Poland
dull crane
Where is Biden
nocturne bobcat
Poland knows how it feels to get kicked around by Russia
icy ridge
Late
haughty yew
He’s about to start
cerulean canyon
i urge everyone to read this speech from zelensky https://foreignpolicy.com/2022...
Favourite line. Made me cry.
You cannot swallow us up. We are different. But this difference is not a reason for enmity. We want to determine our own course and build our own history: peacefully, calmly, and honestly.
dull crane
My mans napping when there’s a major crisis happening smh
granite jewel
The Polish, a great bunch a lads
civic harness
Where is Biden
They’re the leader what he says is very important
silk iron
I am genuinely concerned how the EU will handle the migrant crisis that will be sparked by the Russo-Ukrainian war
granite jewel
Now now, let Biden have his beauty sleep
dull crane
I said where
cerulean canyon
My mans napping when there’s a major crisis happening smh
One thing to know about people kf importance is they never arrive on time.
It's frustrating af
But I am not surprised.
silk iron
it would be unfair to leave eastern Europe to handle the majority of the influx of peoples
civic harness
I am genuinely concerned how the EU will handle the migrant crisis that will be ...
millions of people flocking to Western Europe
vocal wren
There is a good chance that some last minute info arrived and has to be addressed
split aurora
^
cerulean canyon
Absolutely
split aurora
the situation is extremely chaotic
icy ridge
True
silk iron
fog of war as they say
icy ridge
Everything is happening so fast
Might as well just give the speech in the bunker so that Biden can access the military operations room
split aurora
https://liveuamap.com - the site is struggling under load so if it wont load keep trying
This site is extremely good, has a map of basically every event thats happened
very detailed
icy ridge
Safe?
nocturne bobcat
Interesting to remember that Poland is a part of NATO
silk iron
...erm
lofty heart
Make sure the site isn't a virus
nocturne bobcat
Yeah hey friendly remembly to not click on any links without proper protection on your end
dull crane
Joe please
civic harness
Interesting to remember that Poland is a part of NATO
Totally forgot about that considering their conservative politics as of late….
nocturne bobcat
Just as a precaution
split aurora
im not gonna post a link without knowing what it is
lofty heart
Yeah I'm not clicking shit
split aurora
its your choice whether to click it but ik its not a virus
icy ridge
Totally forgot about that considering their conservative politics as of late….
Yeah ......but I think they're just gonna throw away all that to support the refugees
nocturne osprey
they are
granite jewel
I'll also probably won't be clicking any links
silk iron
you can search up liveuamap separately
granite jewel
Aside from twitter
nocturne osprey
https://twitter.com/Lavellyne/status/1496883714344824833 🙏
.
nocturne bobcat
Yeah ......but I think they're just gonna throw away all that to support the ref...
And if Russia tries to disrupt their refuge operations then it really be ww3
silk iron
don't forget
dull crane
Maybe Biden forgot about the address
split aurora
if i was trying to send in a virus this would be an extremely crap way to do it lmao
civic harness
Also prepare for cyber attacks people. Instagram, discord, twitter, could potentially be shut down
nocturne bobcat
Right, what I'm saying is that any link rn about the situations should be handled with care. We're dealing with a country that has breached government websites within the US before
silk iron
Belarus is still using Kurdish migrants they took in as a destabilising factor against Poland - attempting to push them into Poland
lofty heart
if i was trying to send in a virus this would be an extremely crap way to do it ...
We aren't accusing you, we're saying no site is guaranteed to be safe
copper monolith
Belarus is still using Kurdish migrants they took in as a destabilising factor a...
also lithuania
nocturne bobcat
Pretty much everything's susceptible to being messed with atm is the point
silk iron
this will make things very interesting
split aurora
https://liveuamap.com/ - eitherway, this is a trusted and reliable site, and amazing source of information
opal cloak
Also prepare for cyber attacks people. Instagram, discord, twitter, could potent...
and possibly canvas (which is used by schools and colleges)
split aurora
its recommended and trusted in media like
azure plover
Belarus is still using Kurdish migrants they took in as a destabilising factor a...
i can't say that i understand what this means
civic harness
and possibly canvas (which is used by schools and colleges)
Make sure you have a direct way to call families and friends
granite jewel
So cyber attacks are also on the table?
lilac sparrow
I hope I get sent over, I’m sitting here doing nothing as hundreds of people are dying in Ukraine, and the rest of my unit is Germany
civic harness
Landline, phones,
civic harness
So cyber attacks are also on the table?
Yup modern world, modern warfare
opal cloak
I'm grounded from my phone
nocturne osprey
I hope I get sent over, I’m sitting here doing nothing as hundreds of people are...
your unit?
split aurora
and US/Russia exchange is likely
silk iron
@azure plover so Belarus welcomed some Kurdish (fallout from ISIS, syrian civil war, iraq instability, Turkish oppression etc. ) people into their country and then attempted to force them over the border into Poland
opal cloak
Yup modern world, modern warfare
im trying my best to not make a call of duty joke
nocturne bobcat
So cyber attacks are also on the table?
Cyberattacks have historically been around for a long while now
silk iron
the plan was to destabilise Poland
nocturne bobcat
They're just being called out more now because they're affecting much more important resources
granite jewel
Very cool Poland
solid adder
bro biddennn
nocturne osprey
mhm
civic harness
now that Russia is shut out
nocturne osprey
thank god most of my oil comes from the north sea instead of russia
haughty yew
It’s starting
silk iron
don't worry about that
civic harness
I’m watching
silk iron
the UK gets plenty of money from Russian oligarchs instead of Russian oil
icy ridge
BIDEN ON
azure plover
<@!298146194075418624> so Belarus welcomed some Kurdish (fallout from ISIS, syri...
and what does it mean if they do get pushed into poland?
lilac sparrow
your unit?
101 CAB, part of the 101st airborne (air assault)
copper monolith
he's talking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyrvIYWsK_E
icy ridge
I REPEAT BIDEN IS ON
cerulean canyon
Here we go
split aurora
JOE BIDEN is here
solid adder
damn this is the first time I've ever listened to a biden speech
split aurora
yeah
azure plover
yeah i can't imagine it'd be great if the chat was flooded with COME TO BRAZIL!!!!!!
icy ridge
Yeah
warm marsh
First for many I imagine
cerulean canyon
yeah i can't imagine it'd be great if the chat was flooded with COME TO BRAZIL!!...
Absolutely
silk iron
@azure plover Countries need to be able to manage and organise migrants entering their country in a controlled manner, otherwise it is destabilising, i.e. the people get trafficked, or turn to crime, find themselves homeless - also Poland's local politics are anti non-European migrants - Kurdish people are not accepted and well there'll be cultural tensions.
nocturne bobcat
woah a no role
cerulean canyon
I appreciate having an interpreter
copper monolith
> Chat is disabled for this live stream.
@unreal path weeps
solid adder
👁️
azure plover
<@!298146194075418624> Countries need to be able to manage and organise migrants...
i see, thanks!
icy ridge
Damn limiting them on all the major currencies except yuan
cerulean canyon
Money controls the world
civic harness
All Russian assets closed
cerulean canyon
So controlling their funds is pretty smart
nocturne bobcat
Man idk how I'm gonna do my counseling appointment here in a bit
"how are you today?"
"well... broadly gestures at everything"
nocturne osprey
Damn limiting them on all the major currencies except yuan
p sure he said yuan too
cerulean canyon
p sure he said yuan too
He did
icy ridge
Okay Russia is seriously going to go broke....if I don't see Revolution happening in Russia then wtf are they doing
civic harness
Ye
cerulean canyon
Didn't he say Yen?
I'll have to rewind
solid adder
nooo not the space program 😩 😩 😩 😩
icy ridge
Yen is JP while Yuan is CH
cerulean canyon
Ohhhh
silk iron
i guess you could say Biden was really "Bidening" his time
cerulean canyon
I see I see
civic harness
I'll have to rewind
Basically any currency used by the g7
silk iron
im so sorry
lilac sparrow
But what will happen to Ukraine?
silk iron
Ukraine will be invaded
lilac sparrow
Are we just going to let them disappear?
solid adder
welp
cerulean canyon
Ope
A summit
civic harness
USA isn’t helping Ukraine
torn wasp
i guess you could say Biden was really "Bidening" his time
I had imagined a laugh track
haughty yew
America isn’t engaging soldiers
nocturne bobcat
America has soldiers stationed in some EU countries already as a precaution
cerulean canyon
America isn’t engaging soldiers
We are sending soldiers to NATO territories
civic harness
Why would they Ukraine isn’t a nato member unfortunately
nocturne osprey
America has soldiers stationed in some EU countries already as a precaution
yea I know a guy who got deployed to Europe earlier this month
silk iron
America has soldiers stationed in some EU countries already as a precaution
Estonia, Lithuania and Poland in particular
icy ridge
America is basically declaring War do defend NATO if it happens
silk iron
probably Latvia too come to think of it
raven fossil
Why would they Ukraine isn’t a nato member unfortunately
It's more than just Ukraine, that's what's worrying
lilac sparrow
You know what, Europe always wanted their European state, but I guess Europe only means the western part of Europe
azure plover
probably Latvia too come to think of it
- romania
silk iron
Moldova isn't a NATO member either
they would be next in the hypothetical worst case reckless expansion scenario
solid adder
silk iron
and that splinter state in Moldova would likely join Russia first
nocturne bobcat
they would be next in the hypothetical worst case reckless expansion scenario
yup yup
silk iron
perhaps they turn their eyes back to the rest of Georgia
civic harness
THey didn’t sanction energy
silk iron
fully integrate South Ossetia and Abkhazia
icy ridge
I'm sorry but is he saying "y'know" alot?
cerulean canyon
I'm sorry but is he saying "y'know" alot?
Everyone's got a filler word
raven fossil
mine's just 'uh'
grizzled steeple
Mine is "uh"
cerulean canyon
Same
lilac sparrow
He doesn’t want to be the president to start WWIII
silk iron
Biden: "yknow things are kinda black-pilled atm, uh yknow"
civic harness
A very east coast filler word
cerulean canyon
Mine is "uh"
Actually mine is Um
raven fossil
like is for typing
civic harness
Mine is like too
raven fossil
at least with me
grizzled steeple
mine's "like"
So you're ini miney
icy ridge
like it be like that
My librarian kept getting mad if we used like too much
silk iron
problem with appeasement is that with a Putin or Hitler-like despot in charge - it only delays the inevitable
hushed magnet
Biden: "yknow things are kinda black-pilled atm, uh yknow"
doesnt black pilled mean incel?
raven fossil
~~So you're ini miney~~
clear creek
Thx mods for this one
silk iron
black pilled is not necessarily linked to that dead community
lilac sparrow
He’s saying this is going to be their second Afghanistan
nocturne bobcat
My librarian kept getting mad if we used like too much
solid adder
lol
hushed magnet
problem with appeasement is that with a Putin or Hitler-like despot in charge - ...
Yeah but problem with sending force is it would definitely escalate things
azure plover
we're not supposed to call it the ukraine anymore, huh?
nocturne osprey
we're not supposed to call it *the* ukraine anymore, huh?
never were
it's Ukraine
silk iron
people just get confused with the UK and the Ukraine
lilac sparrow
I guess Ukraine will no longer be on our world maps
silk iron
i think Western Ukraine might hold out
icy ridge
I wonder how China is gonna react to this statement.....just getting concerned of an Asian Theatre
clear creek
If your gonne die while working in a milletary hospital and you now it clap your hands
👏 👏
azure plover
people just get confused with the UK and the Ukraine
nah, people still genuinely call it that. biden's done it several times already
lilac sparrow
Shit, those history books that were printed in 2008 will need to be redone
azure plover
i caught myself doing it too
cerulean canyon
Do we think Putin is going to release a statement to bidens speech?
keen sorrel
pootin'
clear creek
Hey jim
solid adder
poopin
clear creek
Eugggg
clear creek
Why
azure plover
/pu:tɪn/
clear creek
Why must shit like this happen
grizzled steeple
Thats just the state of the world
silk iron
bloody Putler trying to start WW3 again
icy ridge
Has the Chinese Foreign Affairs said anything yet? Or reacted....cause if they are in an "Entante" with Russia then 🥲
hushed magnet
Because global politics is dumb and stupid
raven fossil
Putin is kinda doing whatever the hell he wants
azure plover
Has the Chinese Foreign Affairs said anything yet? Or reacted....cause if they a...
no, but i believe planes were spotted over taiwan, so...do with that what you will
silk iron
@frigid swan they said: " peace is still an option right guys? "
that was China's statement
vocal wren
Planes over Taiwan happenes every other month, it's nothing unusual
China just likes to intimidate them
clear creek
Hope the peapol who where protesting in saint peter today are okay
azure plover
no, wait, i'm wrong, i think https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-calls-restraint-ukraine-rejects-term-invasion-2022-02-24/
icy ridge
<@!360522172403548190> they said: " peace is still an option right guys? "
Right now? Cause they've been saying that since this all happened
azure plover
i should stop talking before i look things up lmao
azure plover
Planes over Taiwan happenes every other month, it's nothing unusual
yeah it's just interesting timing for sure
cerulean canyon
Good question
vocal wren
I'm guessing it's nothing
solid adder
biden stoopid
clear creek
no, wait, i'm wrong, i think https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-calls-res...
They havend forgoten the pasific fleet have they
That fleet will still be there even with the world looking away
vocal wren
I'm not able to watch the thing
clear creek
Oh has Biden made his speech yet
cerulean canyon
He's making it now
solid adder
hes doing it rn
silk iron
rn
clear creek
Shit
icy ridge
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAHE NO IDEA WHAT HES THREATENING
Hmm Pentagon seems to be trying to find out
nocturne bobcat
Oh has Biden made his speech yet
Its happening rn
Happened a bit later than anticipated
vocal wren
But too guess, Biden very much knows, but him implying nukes could lead to Russia being like "america is escalating things to nukes, we never said nukes!"
haughty yew
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAHE NO IDEA WHAT HES THREATENING
If he straight up said there would be nuclear strikes there would be mass panic, so it’s better to play dumb so that people don’t go crazy
hushed magnet
Can anyone give a rundown of what hes saying so far?
cerulean canyon
If he straight up said there would be nuclear strikes there would be mass panic,...
True true
clear creek
clear creek
First time i watched a poletitions speach who wassend the president of the US ore the PM of Belgium from start to finish
silk iron
can i call Pressy Zelenskyy "Vloddy"?
vocal wren
What did he say pengu?
cerulean canyon
That's true he never said sanctions could stop him
icy ridge
Yup
solid adder
What did he say pengu?
idk I no longer understand what he's saying
nocturne osprey
First time i watched a poletitions speach who wassend the president of the US or...
biden is the us president
cerulean canyon
Y'all gotta tune in to the speech yourself
clear creek
Im talking about the pres of ukrain
cerulean canyon
Or follow a transcript
icy ridge
Some of these journalists really can't see what sanctions can do to a country
cerulean canyon
It's hard to relay information accurately
clear creek
Y'all gotta tune in to the speech yourself
Give me a link
nocturne bobcat
"why not sanction him today"
copper monolith
yeah why not sanction him today, joe
nocturne bobcat
ooo
azure plover
nocturne bobcat
damn
copper monolith
ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION JOE
white quail
cerulean canyon
Thank you, Bamba
raven fossil
Joe pls
cerulean canyon
IN A MONTH
granite jewel
Joe? Why not sanction him now?
solid adder
Ukraine's fucked
cerulean canyon
My dude
dusty jolt
icy ridge
WHY NOT SANCTION HIM NOW
vocal wren
I'm not able to watch, what did he say?
icy ridge
Oh thank god he avoided China question
vocal wren
Yeah that doesnt help
keen sorrel
WHY NOT SANCTION HIM NOW
Hate to break it to you, but old american man isn't in this discord and therefore can't hear you
solid adder
"WELL ANYWAY"
granite jewel
He's not prepared to comment if he's trying to get China to also halt Russian things
solid adder
screaming
nocturne osprey
so US is only getting involved if they attack a NATO nation
granite jewel
Hate to break it to you, but old american man isn't in this discord and therefor...
Damn...
cerulean canyon
Basically
silk iron
yep
icy ridge
HE REALLY SAID WELL ANYWAYS
silk iron
that's how treaties and defensive pacts work
grizzled steeple
Any aid at least?
vocal wren
Which is good, as attacking Russia currently will 100% lead to an actual world war
azure plover
this may not be the most helpful but it could give you a little insight https://twitter.com/i/events/1483255084750282753?timeline=top-commentary
Twitter
copper monolith
I'm not able to watch, what did he say?
literally everyone asking him why he wouldn't sanction putin lol
azure plover
it's "top commentary" under the biden topic on twitter
granite jewel
They said they're going to support Ukraine the best they can
nocturne osprey
sanctions
vocal wren
Ahh
nocturne osprey
sanctions don't stop bullets
grizzled steeple
They said they're going to support Ukraine the best they can
That's something at least
icy ridge
Why doesn't thus journalist ask India itself?
dull crane
Well
cerulean canyon
Oh shit
dull crane
That
copper monolith
BROO
cerulean canyon
WOAH HE JUST WALKED OFF
icy ridge
Welp that was
silk iron
sanctions can mean you can't buy anymore bullets tho
solid adder
that was something
icy ridge
HE JUST WALKED OFF
copper monolith
man
solid adder
alright
raven fossil
guy up and, left
cerulean canyon
Alright okay
stone vigil
sanctions don't stop bullets
yeah but it can starve a nation
solid adder
he be like "im outa here"
dull crane
oOoOo, spOoOky sAncTiOnS
granite jewel
Sanctioning the economy would help
Since they'll eventually run out of money to buy bullets
grizzled steeple
Sanctions only work if everyone is on board right?
silk iron
mainly yes
white quail
that ending tho
warm marsh
Politics aside, seeing Biden walk off stage is kinda hilarious
granite jewel
He said the nato was on board
raven fossil
If Putin has any idea what he wanted to do, he'd be well prepared for an economic fall
cerulean canyon
that ending tho
HE REALLY DID JUST FUCKING WALK AWAY
solid adder
biden said he doesn't know what putin is doing lol
atomic vigil
Politics aside, seeing Biden walk off stage is kinda hilarious
He went to see a cool looking bug outside
cerulean canyon
Honestly I'm shook
granite jewel
Yes
grizzled steeple
biden falls down the stairs again
granite jewel
He really did just
hushed magnet
Sanctions only work if everyone is on board right?
Especially superpowers like the US
granite jewel
Walk away
silk iron
Biden: aight ima head out
cerulean canyon
biden said he doesn't know what putin is doing lol
Tbf he has to say that to avoid mass panic
icy ridge
Yup
granite jewel
It is
hushed magnet
He went to see a cool looking bug outside
"Mr president, we found a cool bug"
lofty heart
I missed the whole thing lmao
granite jewel
He just walked away from the podium
raven fossil
very peculiar
clear creek
hmmmmm
white quail
i wonder if that was someone telling him to exit or smthin
clear creek
he is being very carfull
icy ridge
Very very careful
white quail
he has to be
atomic vigil
"Mr president, we found a cool bug"
Little do they know the bug is a Russian spy
icy ridge
Especially on that comment on China
azure plover
can't have another shoe throwing scandal
granite jewel
You never know, someone from Russia might be watching
raven fossil
I mean, carefulness is a wise move
cerulean canyon
can't have another shoe throwing scandal
Oh god
warm marsh
can't have another shoe throwing scandal
Oh no
clear creek
he wants to keep all his cards close to his chest
white quail
You never know, someone from Russia might be watching
will be watching
grizzled steeple
The... WHAT?
azure plover
the guy who threw the shoes has a twitter
cerulean canyon
Someone threw a shoe at bush
silk iron
wait why don't we just pay a guy to throw a show at Putin when he does his next speech?
azure plover
personally i think he's braver than the marines
grizzled steeple
LOL
cerulean canyon
Anyway
raven fossil
wait why don't we just pay a guy to throw a show at Putin when he does his next ...
I don't think anybody is crazy enough to accept that
cerulean canyon
it was back during the war on terror period IIRC
Yup
clear creek
dont get me wrong i want him to spell it out clearly to russia but i do get what he is trying to do
warm marsh
wait why don't we just pay a guy to throw a show at Putin when he does his next ...
Whoever does that will more than likely be immortalized
raven fossil
Not much use for money if you're being hunted
grizzled steeple
I don't know if i can watch Biden's speech all the way through
silk iron
keen sorrel
I suspect throwing shoes is less useful than sanctions
Even if they don't dodge twice
icy ridge
Patiently waiting for a Russian Revolution against Putin
hushed magnet
wait why don't we just pay a guy to throw a show at Putin when he does his next ...
If you can throw a shoe you might as well go all out and throw something actually useful
atomic vigil
wait why don't we just pay a guy to throw a show at Putin when he does his next ...
Get that aussie school boy that threw a sandwich at the aussie prime minister
granite jewel
But how about 3 shoes jim?
azure plover
I suspect throwing shoes is less useful than sanctions
what if you stick sanctions in the shoes beforehand
hushed magnet
what if you stick sanctions in the shoes beforehand
Genius
cerulean canyon
If you can throw a shoe you might as well go all out and throw something actuall...
My favourite thing about this is someone just took their shoe off in the middle of the speech and decided to yeet it at the president
raven fossil
rational thinking
hushed magnet
Its called intuition
clear creek
we realy need tax heavens like switserland and cyprus to get rid of russian oligargs acounts
that will hurt them where it hurts the most
leaden grove
Patiently waiting for a Russian Revolution against Putin
More like the Oligarch Revolution 👀
copper monolith
we realy need tax heavens like switserland and cyprus to get rid of russian olig...
grizzled steeple
we realy need tax heavens like switserland and cyprus to get rid of russian olig...
"Oops, i lost all your money lol"
silk iron
that's nice and all but the Tories are drinking from the Oligarchs gullet in the UK
nocturne osprey
clear creek
lol https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/switzerland-faces-dilemma-over-russia-sanction...
come on switserland now is not the time
nocturne osprey
fingers crossed this is true
clear creek
hope it to
grizzled steeple
Switzerland is neutral neutral right?
atomic vigil
Maybe battlefield 2042 was a prediction of the situation of Ukraine and Russia
clear creek
get the boys into the air
white quail
wait for cross examines
icy ridge
Wikipedia updated map
warm marsh
come on switserland now is not the time
Switzerland is always gonna do Switzerland things
clear creek
Switzerland is neutral neutral right?
they have not been in a war since the 1500's i think
grizzled steeple
phoenix wright cross examines?
raven fossil
they have not been in a war since the 1500's i think
I mean, switzerland is just not worth it to invade. They can just kinda ignore everyone because the opposite will always happen
hushed magnet
fingers crossed this is true
I mean i hope so too, but would they even be able to hold out against russia long enough to do anything?
silk iron
So Russian naval superiority is greatly assisting the forces invading from Crimea
icy ridge
I think Swiss is strengthened their measurs against russia
cerulean canyon
Wikipedia updated map
Wikipedia is just on top of things
raven fossil
respect
hushed magnet
Thats insane
silk iron
Ukrainian forces are well entrenched in Donetsk and Luhansk, and unlikely to be pushed out without being flanked
clear creek
Wikipedia is just on top of things
they propely have a small army of editors redy to fact check evryting that gets uded
cerulean canyon
they propely have a small army of editors redy to fact check evryting that gets ...
Probably
warm marsh
Jen Psaki (White House Press Secretary) is gonna give a press conference in 45 mins
grizzled steeple
Ah her.
silk iron
now what's really concerning is where the Russian forces invading from Belarus into the nuclear exclusion zone, they could push on the capital Kyiv from both sides of the Dnieper river
grizzled steeple
Yea, i think we need her to give the gist of the US's stance
silk iron
Kyiv might be Russian forces primary goal...
vocal wren
Sounds like it
raven fossil
It is the capital
atomic vigil
Kyiv might be Russian forces primary goal...
Is kyiv the capital?
silk iron
yes
clear creek
Kyiv might be Russian forces primary goal...
100% he who controls a nations capitol can usely control international opinion
hushed magnet
Is kyiv the capital?
Yep
silk iron
If kyiv falls, Ukraine will likely fall soon after
raven fossil
If they want to like overthrow the government and install a pro-russian one, you'd be looking at Kyiv
clear creek
they can hold the peapol ok kyiv hostige if it comes to it
warm marsh
Chances are though, that if Russia takes over, they're gonna have an "Afghanistan" situation on their hands
silk iron
the government would have to evacuate to somewhere in the west of Ukraine
atomic vigil
Do you think Ukraine will be turned into russia or will it be a vichy France situation?
split aurora
https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1496924263122870272~
https://twitter.com/StratcomCentre/status/1496922915954216962
https://twitter.com/UATV_en/status/1496920633107976197
Multiple credible reports ukraine has fully retaken the captured airport near kyiv, BEFORE russian reinforcements had time to land
Twitter
silk iron
excellent
raven fossil
good
split aurora
Ukraine is not going down without one hell of a fight here
silk iron
that could have been the war over in 24hrs if that worked
clear creek
wait for it to get factcheckt
warm marsh
The Ukrainian people aren't gonna let their nation go without a fight.
atomic vigil
I think Ukraine will be used as a puppet state
clear creek
misinfo is evrywhere on twiter
leaden grove
I think so too
atomic vigil
If it does go down
split aurora
wait for it to get factcheckt
one of those is Kyiv broadcaster, one of those is a ukraine govt funded centre for communications and anti-misinformation
molten tartan
https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1496924263122870272~
https://twitter.com/Str...
Great
cerulean canyon
Jen Psaki (White House Press Secretary) is gonna give a press conference in 45 m...
Is this going to be on the same page that bidens speech was
clear creek
one of those is Kyiv broadcaster, one of those is a ukraine govt funded centre f...
ok thx
split aurora
it's not 100% but I'm willing to call this one a lot more credible then not
raven fossil
Is this going to be on the same page that bidens speech was
I hope not but honestly, hm
warm marsh
Is this going to be on the same page that bidens speech was
Yeah. Same YouTube Channel
silk iron
it's probably true