@copper monolith @solid adder @limber wagon the rogozin thing was real
#the_ukraine_situation
copper monolith
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copper monolith
copper monolith
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1584930049480085505?s=20&t=IoaKM_Cq7K4...
copper monolith
bozo publicly speaks for the first time after his daughter was assassinated https://vxtwitter.com/visegrad24/status/1585070290367049731?s=20&t=IoaKM_Cq7K4nCvL6FfuIsA
copper monolith
copper monolith
https://vxtwitter.com/wartranslated/status/1584990975973216258?t=ee_P1wxoV9XhjbqvZT6N1w&s=19 vid and the translated post in this tweet
Quite an ISIS moment on asking his minions to start shit in Europe
copper monolith
unreal path
Twitter
clear creek
The Belgian King fillip on the last day of his state visit to Lithuania witnessed a nato exercise today making a speech at the end condemning Russian brutality and violations
He can also speak better English than Flemish but good speech worth a listen proud of my monarch
copper monolith
The Belgian King fillip on the last day of his state visit to Lithuania witnesse...
o shit he's here, that's so epic 
paper cedar
The Belgian King fillip on the last day of his state visit to Lithuania witnesse...
I actually didn't know you were from Belgium too
copper monolith
not feeling it 😔
loud knot
Oof
copper monolith
paper cedar
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/26/energy/europe-natural-gas-prices-plunge/index...
Belgium really must be ignoring it or something because electricity is cheaper now than gas
fossil horizon
https://twitter.com/MirovichMedia/status/1585214403003043840?t=02nGo0-GCT_ocnA-q...
So a student wrote an anti-war letter and was killed for it after a girl reported him.
Am I reading this correctly?
copper monolith
No
copper monolith
He was expelled and harassed by everyone, so he killed himself, and his gf was the one to expose him
fossil horizon
Right I just realized I missed a sentece
That's fucking messed up
Could you translate her quote pls?
fossil horizon
Of fuck that's eve worse than what I understood
That's some Hitlerjugend level shit
nocturne osprey
nocturne osprey
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/26/energy/europe-natural-gas-prices-plunge/index...
the issue was never supply. it's our providers price gouging everyone for no fucking reason
copper monolith
https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1585521320934137856
hell yeah kestler effect hype
viral junco
https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1585521320934137856
so theyre saying theyre gonna destroy starlink
or try
i would say the most they can do is angrily shake their fist at it in the sky seeing how shite their equipment is
lilac sparrow
Yea, pure saber rattling, they can get stuff into space easily, Russia took on the role of supplying the ISS for a while, but talking out several dozen satellites in LEO means considerable costs that they can put into supplying their armed forces
copper monolith
Anti satellite tech is just another form of MAD, like if you destroy an enemy sat, it'll spiral into making LEO unreachable even for you, and makes your space based infrastructure in place under severe threat
limber jolt
especially with something like Starlink where you need to destroy a lot of satellites
copper monolith
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video from a dead Russian soldier's phone, where he brags to his wife that he's bringing back a stolen hair dryer, a tv and a milk feeding thing for their infant daughter, a shame none of the 4 things will ever get to them
copper monolith
paper cedar
I mean if you think about it, Since Putin came in power Russians did get way better life
like during USSR they didn't really had much, then USSR fell they had horrible prices and the economy was horrible
so if you compare how Russian life was in the past 60 years and now in the past 15 years I understand why everyone loves Putin
the war did open the eyes of a lot of people though especially the mobilization
leaden grove
like during USSR they didn't really had much, then USSR fell they had horrible p...
It got worse in the 90s tbh
paper cedar
it did that's why I mentioned when USSR fell
putin became president in like 2000 I think
steel jasper
the question is how much of that can be attributed to putin ? and how much is just things naturally developing
copper monolith
soviet times had a lot of propaganda too, so Putin just continues that, and applying his KGB training
paper cedar
yeah, I really think at this point most of the Russia citizens are well, heavily brainwashed and I'm not surprised
I do gotta say though since the internet era it did open up the world for a lot more people and I'm sure if the internet didn't exist then Russia people won't even leave their country as they wouldn't have known how bad actually is there
copper monolith
https://vxtwitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1586276783883624448?t=Co1Uq2yki70nFcfSS6Kcgg&s=19 https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1586276788938080256?t=HNNAQ3ZZTnh64UpteeX1QA&s=19
Twitter
👀
copper monolith
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https://vxtwitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1586276783883624448?t=Co1Uq2yki70nFcfSS6K...
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1586290574474153985?t=-4GpxWWU3p6xFwYKNobrLw&s=19 https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1586294583532654592?t=l_s9SVegvTXvHsRAG-k5Ow&s=19
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clear creek
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1586290574474153985?t=-4GpxWWU3p6xFwYKNobrL...
are Russian defenses in crimea really this bad
copper monolith
Would appear so, not the first thing to blow up in their most important port
clear creek
The Russians keep falling further from superpower status into the abiss of minor powers
steel jasper
wait what
was it blown up by ukraine ?
I was considering it to possibly be incompetence
not the first time a port just randomly combusted, and this is certainly not the biggest boom from an accident
copper monolith
Either way it's gonna be a humiliation to Russia
Either they can't protect their skies over a very important port from slow moving UAVs, or they can't stop idiots from smoking near flammable things
clear creek
The russians blamed nordstream 1 on the british
copper monolith
copper monolith
Holy shit what a ride lmao https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1586623916709134336?t=StEsjxeR36m-CqtjWwLryw&s=19
unreal path
tight acorn
https://vxtwitter.com/wartranslated/status/1585960422855028738?t=gLFgUUTlVHGokyG...
This really not represent the answer of "Russian people", because if you say yes you will go to jail
copper monolith
true, people either just refuse to answer, or proudly spew the shit they hear on tv
tight acorn
I want WhiteBlueWhite flag so much in emoji, hope they can replace old one soon)
copper monolith
only if it ever becomes an official one tbh
tight acorn
I hope it will
copper monolith
Didn't even notice Russian troops losses reached 70k, and yesterday was somehow the highest since the first week of the war https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1586619568042172416?t=IZHU9WRoE-M12hJH0kg5fw&s=19
clear creek
Didn't even notice Russian troops losses reached 70k, and yesterday was somehow ...
Fuck an extra 1K today
copper monolith
technically saturday
viral junco
The Russians were bombing kyiv this morning quite a bit
limber wagon
paper cedar
I just finished watching it and he is quite right that the population decrease will be really heavy both on Ukraine and Russia
But I do think that like 140 million people in Russia is still, well a lot and how much they have been losing won't probably matter for at least few years
copper monolith
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CW: the wretched bitch of RT https://vxtwitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1587427026880937986?s=20&t=xMX7YeySyAnRZBYJsMa5aQ
unreal path
unreal path
copper monolith
buoyant sundial
https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1587448544658604035?s=46&t=scuRi1ZaaE...
I hope this is inaccurate. The last thing we need is any other country actually supplying Russia.
tired scaffold
I hope this is inaccurate. The last thing we need is any other country actually ...
Iran's already been supplying them
copper monolith
many of them suicide drones
steel jasper
I wonder why they're being called suicide drones
Aren't loitering munitions already a thing ?
leaden grove
Aren't loitering munitions already a thing ?
Welll, the thing about loitering munitions is that they’re usually assigned a target after launch and spend some time just circling the target area
steel jasper
Right
leaden grove
Some drones can do that, but for example the Shahid drone has to be assigned a target immediately, it doesn’t spend any time just flying around
steel jasper
Turns out they're the same thing
just had to look it up to be sure
"A loitering munition (also known as a suicide drone or kamikaze drone)"
bizarre, I guess the media's just using the scary word to rile people up more
leaden grove
bizarre, I guess the media's just using the scary word to rile people up more
They are scary
steel jasper
I mean yeah but
I can't help but feel like it's easy to forget that when they start using the nicer word
it's just a neat little trick I just noticed, reminds me of how insurance keeps adding ridiculous abbreviations
copper monolith
nearly an hour long Kraut 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdFtqa54TuM
steel jasper
oh wow
unreal path
copper monolith
paper cedar
lmao
paper cedar
unreal galleon
nearly an hour long Kraut <:ZoomEyes:382712290064990208> https://www.youtube.com...
copper monolith
russian man 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpcNGezfeU
unreal path
limber jolt
paywall
copper monolith
limber wagon
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1588179603172249601?t=0GQv0UxAS-R5H0Cjqqeg...
I love iron curtains
copper monolith
limber wagon
:(
copper monolith
clear creek
How's the southern front havend checked up on while
copper monolith
In a bit of a stalemate, but apparently Russian forces will soon withdraw from Kherson city, even took their piss tricolor off the main government building
clear creek
In a bit of a stalemate, but apparently Russian forces will soon withdraw from K...
Must be the signs of healthy morale if they are already preparing to leave the city they consider Russian owned
Also anyone got a sight on the current midterms polls know it's kinda weird to ask here but hoping that they keep both houses so republicans can't just veto out all military aid
clear creek
Good
clear creek
I already voted in the midterms, early voting
How's general consensus on the outcome rn
limber jolt
tbh I haven't been keeping up with it much
my state is very democrat
well I say that but we have a Republican governor, but he's an anti Trump Republican who is not running for re election
copper monolith
Based
limber jolt
like I think he recently signed a few laws protecting abortion rights and gender affirming care in the state
but the Republican candidate is pro Trump and everyone I know is voting against him lmao
I didn't have much time to do that much research into anyone except the Governor candidates mostly, sadly
clear creek
So he's a normal conservative not what has become of the American definition of conservative
limber jolt
well the current governor, yes
like... actually decent person
the candidate for the current election though is full pro Trump it seems
and is... perhaps unsurprisingly, silent on a lot of big issues this year as he probably knows if he says is actual beliefs on them he will immediately lose in this state
clear creek
Probs wants to get elected first so he can cash his paychecks before he goes ashole mode
copper monolith
Most moderate republican vs a clown who sold his soul to a cheeto
limber jolt
honestly I like the current governor a lot and would vote for him if he was running for re election
idk if this is the real reason but the reason he gave for not running for re election was that he didn't want to take time and resources away from dealing with stuff like covid and other big issues in the state
I'd need to do a lot more in depth research though
because typically you do not trust what a politician says about themself
clear creek
The party props also didn't want him to go for re election if he issend a trumpist
limber jolt
idk if this is the real reason but the reason he gave for not running for re ele...
I honestly think a big part of it now is that he kinda can't get much support from his own party now
yeah
some people that I know requested Republican ballots for the primary so they could vote for any moderate Republican candidates
and then just vote Democrat if/when a pro Trump Republican gets the nomination
clear creek
Sometimes I wish that trump did form his 3rd party so that normal republicans had a voice
limber jolt
there aren't many left tbh
clear creek
Maybe just silent
limber jolt
a lot are either going along with Trump or in some cases being kicked out of the party/losing elections
or just going silent because that's safer
it felt pretty nice to actually vote though, this is the first election that I'm old enough to
although to register to vote I had to register for the draft
clear creek
Again if Trump split of they would have had a decent rep party to build on
limber jolt
or at least I did both at the same time because legally I have to register for the draft
afaik
however several mental things I have make me exempt
clear creek
I'm voting for the first time this march for EU general elections cuz your alowed to from 16
limber jolt
oh how does that work for EU btw?
clear creek
however several mental things I have make me exempt
Oh in Belgium we say I have flat feet and can't serve my fatherland works every time
limber jolt
EU has a parliament thing, do citizens of the countries vote for their representatives?
let's see...
I'm autistic, have ADHD, and GAD
one of those probably exempts me
pretty sure at least one or two of those do
clear creek
oh how does that work for EU btw?
You vote in the people who approve the laws put forward by the counsel
limber jolt
how are the council members chosen?
appointed by leaders of the member countries? or voted for in other elections?
clear creek
By the ruling party of the countries
limber jolt
ah
clear creek
It's a whole big mess but I love it
limber jolt
honestly EU is a pretty interesting system
honestly in some ways it reminds me a little of how the US was organized when it was first formed, it was practically just a loose coalition of independent states
copper monolith
unreal path
Don't worry the G7 to the rescue https://fxtwitter.com/afp/status/1588481207360167937?s=46&t=AkSOTlwH68f-bMIdz-hEFA
leaden grove
Don't worry the G7 to the rescue https://fxtwitter.com/afp/status/15884812073601...
Yeah uh that was a while ago haha
copper monolith
implode
clear creek
https://fxtwitter.com/sergiykyslytsya/status/1588558507648786432?s=46&t=AkSOTlwH...
Can someone tldr this my brain hurts
Btw who put the G7 in charge of international politics
clear creek
implode
You mean cope so hard their eyes turn to sludge and they just start shooting orphans and blame it on Ukraine
copper monolith
implosion
paper cedar
copper monolith
unreal path
Btw who put the G7 in charge of international politics
the G7 did :>
clear creek
But by what right do they lead?
unreal path
Can someone tldr this my brain hurts
so basically Russia is like aren't nazis bad guys?
unreal path
But by what right do they lead?
yes
clear creek
so basically Russia is like aren't nazis bad guys?
So there doing a Billy and calling themselves the bad guy?
unreal path
I mean come on guys nazis are bad you wouldn't vote against this
clear creek
I mean come on guys nazis are bad you wouldn't vote against this
When Germany the nation that hates nazis the most issend with you you arned on the right side of a nazie argument
unreal path
When Germany the nation that hates nazis the most issend with you you arned on t...
yeah Russia is bascily going see nazis bad that's why what we are doing is okay right guys? :>
clear creek
No
No
No
I'm so done
Why the fuck is humanity so fucking stupid
We honestly deserve to destroy ourselfs
unreal path
because humans make up humanity
clear creek
The UN is meaningless culture is meaningless who the fuck cares if someone that speaks your languages lives a border over if that person is treated well
Come on
If that mattered id be marching into France demanding French flanders back
But no
I'm not
unreal path
my favorite thing is Russia would go to the UN and accuse Ukraine of doing something they are literally doing
the projection
clear creek
We honestly deserve to nuke ourselves
unreal path
I think we should give all of our nukes to Chad
clear creek
I bet that aliens have just decided to leave us be cuz they now we are doomed
copper monolith
You should probably go and lie down before you write more awful things @clear creek
clear creek
Well it is half past midnight so yeah props yeah
copper monolith
clear creek
https://vxtwitter.com/DefenceU/status/1588649775393820672?t=y3k3ELMJ7BALYbMPbWTL...
Did they really blow the dam I can't find other people reporting on it
copper monolith
Literally in the tweet, the Oskil reservoir dam lol
Are you thinking about the one in Kherson
copper monolith
copper monolith
viral junco
viral junco
copper monolith
buoyant sundial
https://vxtwitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1589035403105173504?s=20&t=7SvYk4rlW...
You know things are bad when they say "when they get killed" not "if they get killed"
copper monolith
Bakhmut has been having some of the biggest and continuous battles since the start of the invasion https://vxtwitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1589018300964818945?s=20&t=7SvYk4rlWRIUwJnwPxU1Cw
copper monolith
indeed, tankies forgor history (they're all in middle school and skip all history classes)
paper cedar
that's a lot of packages
copper monolith
copper monolith
russian occupied Luhansk https://vxtwitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1589217600231596032?s=20&t=7IYEhc3gYHJRZBf2-WnihQ
copper monolith
almost 30 mins of the op to liberate Kupyansk in September https://vxtwitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1589342503462785024?s=20&t=d_HxWZCN4HclQwEpE1MHsQ https://vxtwitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1589342897442557952?s=20&t=d_HxWZCN4HclQwEpE1MHsQ https://vxtwitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1589343242557960194?s=20&t=d_HxWZCN4HclQwEpE1MHsQ
copper monolith
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Twitter
leaden grove
If anyone wants to do something good on a regular basis, check this new donation website: https://stopify.org.ua
It‘s managed by the Latvian charity Ziedot.lv in cooperation with the Ukrainian embassy in Latvia
copper monolith
If anyone wants to do something good on a regular basis, check this new donation...
paper cedar
I don't know if supporting armed forces is a good idea
True that faster the war ends then better but the donations is still gonna be minimal compared to countries giving their equipment to Ukraine
And it feels like you would support then the war itself
I think like donating the people in need there is way more important so that they can actually have the aid to survive
copper monolith
nearly all of the fundraising for the army goes towards getting non lethal supplies like medicine, winter clothing, etc
copper monolith
that probably does happen but in a vastly smaller scale than non lethal stuff
paper cedar
I should have checked the website itself than jump to conclusion
copper monolith
oh yeah the website does list things that will be bought with donation money
quite fancy posters wtf
paper cedar
wow yeah really fancy
copper monolith
I was just talking in general since that's how all the fundraisers have gone this year
even in Russia people are holding fundraisers for their orc horde with the same items
cuz y'know, world's 2nd strongest military needs monetary aid from their civilian population
paper cedar
quite depressing
copper monolith
I'm interested to see how Russia's forces gonna fare in the next few months when they're lacking a lot of winter clothing
main cause of death changes to frostbite lmao
paper cedar
I wonder, how does a military leaderboard changes
because 2nd strongest military is at this point a bit of a joke
can they become 3rd or go lower over time?
paper cedar
lol, I wonder when they will redo it
copper monolith
next year probably, hey do it every year
I can see Russia now being below China, but unsure if India would also be more powerful
since Russia is India's biggest supplier
paper cedar
oh I didn't know India is supporting Russia
copper monolith
eh, kinda? so far they've abstained in every UN vote against Russia, they don't send equipment either
I guess India is supporting Russia monetarily by buying their weapons, but then again those weapons are being taken out of Russia
India heavily relies on Russia for military equipment, nuclear reactor construction and I think general infrastructure assistance
paper cedar
Oh I didn't know that
what about China? I'm pretty sure they also abstained in every UN vote against Russia
copper monolith
China not so much, Russia is the one relying on them, now more than ever due to sanctions
paper cedar
dang, it really shows how desperate Russia is
leaden grove
I should have checked the website itself than jump to conclusion
Yes, the FAQ state that the funds are not used for the purchase of weapons or ammunition
Ziedot.lv has been running a similar campaign for quite a while now, this is their first attempt at reaching out to a larger (international) audience
There‘s a spreadsheet showing what they‘ve purchased for that other campaign
leaden grove
Yee, it started with a charity concert back in February and has been running ever since
fossil horizon
89% of Ukrainians believe that 10 years from now Ukraine will be a member of the EU
copper monolith
Same
copper monolith
paper cedar
89% of Ukrainians believe that 10 years from now Ukraine will be a member of the...
good
copper monolith
copper monolith
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paper cedar
tired scaffold
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1589790462910427136?t=tPC0AGmmAqFdmvJIhRQY...
at least they didn't sink a neutral country's fishing boats this time
copper monolith
copper monolith
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paper cedar
https://twitter.com/maxfras/status/1589925514038611968?t=Q8eijw5uXPO2YlgQyzhobw&...
That is the funniest story I have seen
paper cedar
does anyone has English translation for this?
fossil horizon
Sorry I don't have anything
I've seen the written version of the speech and as far as my (very limited) understanding of russian goes it sounds pretty legit
It sounds a bit too good to be true tho
Especially considering their preparations for urban combat
copper monolith
The tl;dr is he's in agreement with Putin on withdrawing troops, that they "care" about theor well being, and that all "willing" civilians had "evacuated" @fossil horizon @paper cedar
paper cedar
wow that really seems like too good to be true
copper monolith
I need to find a link I posted earlier, stay tuned
paper cedar
we got time Val
copper monolith
https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1588924419002740736?t=6mkeCXI6dDHmfDZVTKSxfw...
A
copper monolith
https://fxtwitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1589155032234352640?t=hPCR_e8xwWask69...
B
Trench warfare in 2022 yay
fossil horizon
Hmm
They are really going full defensive mode in the south
I don't think there is any way for them to take Kherson again once the Ukrainians have reconquered the city
The last time it worked because of surprise, crushing advantage and apparently some sus officials working with them
copper monolith
HIMARS will shoot even further into the occupied territory now, and it'll be hard for the to keep up those defences
copper monolith
Rip everyone that tracks Russian equipment losses lmao
It's gonna be an active evening/night
clear creek
Bing bong the russians in kherson are gone
copper monolith
Twitter
copper monolith
copper monolith
great reporting by Rosenberg as ever
Twitter
https://twitter.com/nolanwpeterson/status/1590415300922859520?s=20&t=UMK8lzzPx1GKDjllNDJIHA https://twitter.com/nolanwpeterson/status/1590419464419704836?s=20&t=UMK8lzzPx1GKDjllNDJIHA
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Twitter
this thingie flying above my skies 🥺 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Global_Hawk_1.jpg
glass meteor
https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/status/1590406838159187969?s=20&t=UMK8lzzPx1GKDjl...
At this point im half expecting russia to pull a napoleon and blow the bridge before all the troops are across
copper monolith
would be very shocking /s
glass meteor
Lmao he fell out the window going 100kph
glass meteor
https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/status/1590375831637217284?s=20&t=UMK8lzzPx1...
Economy is ruined for decades based on both the sanctions and that they defaulted on debts
copper monolith
a longer cut of this, with subtitles and he was responding to a different asshole (cc: @paper cedar ) https://vxtwitter.com/wartranslated/status/1590368333727424512?s=20&t=UMK8lzzPx1GKDjllNDJIHA
viral junco
https://fxtwitter.com/DefMon3/status/1590403534411141120?s=20&t=UMK8lzzPx1GKDjll...
Trench warfare hasn't worked since ww1 for good reason
You sorta saw it in Vietnam and that failed
Badly
Now when you've modern warfare when you've got pinpoint bombing accuracy, it takes one good well aimed bayraktar and the trench will be gone
copper monolith
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-state-media-sent-reeling-over-us-midterm-election-results https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1590494861727510529?s=20&t=UMK8lzzPx1GKDjllNDJIHA
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fossil horizon
https://vxtwitter.com/Acyn/status/1590458468502323200?s=20&t=UMK8lzzPx1GKDjllNDJ...
I... is he serious or is that a joke?
I am having a hard time there
paper cedar
a longer cut of this, with subtitles and he was responding to a different asshol...
That explains it, thanks
copper monolith
I... is he serious or is that a joke?
just a dark brandon funni comment, the Russians had been slowly withdrawing for weeks, and yesterday was an official announcement to mostly their core audience
fossil horizon
The Russians seem to want recreate what the nazis did in Warsaw. Mine everything, evacuate and then open fire and make the city dissapear
copper monolith
expected
paper cedar
limber wagon
It has begun
copper monolith
fossil horizon
They are getting really close
Google tells me Kyselivka is less than 20km fron the city
limber wagon
fossil horizon
The Russians are preparing a defense in depth
They are fortyfing Mariupol with mines
copper monolith
Twitter
copper monolith
copper monolith
Google tells me Kyselivka is less than 20km fron the city
Twitter
wicked panther
Anecdotally, but the 11th November speeches in my town have been all about the war in ukraine and how stuff that’s happening in ukraine is like what happened to Belgium during the nazis
limber wagon
Ya know whats kinda funny to see. Whenever things are getting heated in Ukraine, you see this big influx of changesets in openstreetmap, from mappers mapping the terrain there better
copper monolith
https://vxtwitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1591016726644260869?s=20&t=fmD_7rgp...
Twitter
actually might see ZSU troops in the city
thanks twitter
paper cedar
I'm amazed how quick Ukraine took the terrain at Kherson
really taken everything
now I'm questioning what's gonna happen to the dam
copper monolith
Russia on it's way to false flag
"Russia is here forever!" https://vxtwitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1591009194165284864?s=20&t=hUW9fxiOoufcExGQLftkNQ
civilians in the streets 👀 https://fxtwitter.com/michaelh992/status/1591026652615946240?s=20&t=fmD_7rgpH0kdWo-VapvtdA
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1591025574281383936?s=20&t=fmD_7rgpH0kdWo-VapvtdA https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1591026027522031616?s=20&t=fmD_7rgpH0kdWo-VapvtdA
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paper cedar
a hug per civilian, the greatest russia's counter weapon
copper monolith
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1591025574281383936?s=20&t=fmD_7rgpH0kdWo-V...
paper cedar
paper cedar
same
copper monolith
copper monolith
paper cedar
May he rest in peace
rare aurora
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-63576212
Ukrainian flags fly in centre of Kherson
paper cedar
it's beautiful
nocturne osprey
loud knot
I love that Russia is unintentionally the largest contributor of equipment to Ukraine's military
copper monolith
so far, unlike in their humiliating retreat from Kharkiv's Oblast, they haven't left much equipment in Kherson
limber wagon
They've been retreating for a while now it seems. Only properly announced it when they were almost done and had already pulled out most of their assets
thats my theory at least
copper monolith
there are reports that there's a large pocket of 20k men abandoned in that side of the river, gonna be interesting what comes of it
limber wagon
there are reports that there's a large pocket of 20k men abandoned in that side ...
A nice autumn swim
copper monolith
mfs really care more about their 50 year old tanks than lives of 20k people
limber wagon
Well of course, tanks are expensive
paper cedar
copper monolith
Twitter
copper monolith
can't wait to see country-wide celebrations lasting days/weeks once all the land is retaken
man says he used to wear these kinds of helmets back in the 80s lmao https://vxtwitter.com/michaelh992/status/1591084319266983936?s=20&t=kyQVkZ6VWSiy9IF4AfPpCA
fierce arch
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1591085320883224576?s=20&t=kyQVkZ6VWSiy9IF4Af...
they held a very valid and not fake referendum on annexation clearly these are paid actors
wicked panther
man says he used to wear these kinds of helmets back in the 80s lmao https://vxt...
No clue what he said but when he laughed i laughed too
unreal path
copper monolith
"Kherson people met us with protests, but met ZSU with flowers. Then for what are our boys giving their lives away?" 
https://twitter.com/Vorewig/status/1591169144715882497?s=20&t=ewt04qfjWtKTGctaVRZuRQ
copper monolith
the watermelon is a symbol of Kherson cuz they grow a lot of watermelons there
unreal path
the watermelon is a symbol of Kherson cuz they grow a lot of watermelons there
Ohhhhh
copper monolith
Good morning, have 7 mins of pure copium https://vxtwitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1591239227508940800?t=9JnGILzP8AX7lq-Ss4i2-Q&s=19
copper monolith
unreal path
copper monolith
will be extremely difficult for ZSU to get to the other side of the river from Kherson https://vxtwitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1591557197334339584?s=20&t=P-L5s-a5FGoXDpTRUkdBMA
unreal path
Oh sure you can regain access to SWIFT 
just get your government to remove every Russian troop out of, what is recognized by the UN, Ukrainian territory
viral junco
https://fxtwitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1591552145983438848?s=46&t=TUItb7_p...
Nah
What happened to the tooting your own horn about not needing swift and the west? Keep going as you insisted
unreal path
What happened to the tooting your own horn about not needing swift and the west?...
Russia: HA like we need swift
5 mins later
Russia: PLZ LET ME BACK IN PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
copper monolith
https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1591499034724012032?t=MBHDZjWH0UYhblsG7R1yYA&s=19 https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1591499393219563520?t=Lr9QZZNxv8YdfDSoWnSjxQ&s=19
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Twitter
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1591393542689423361?t=kuIF8rZ_Z1Kgp48h6UDPCw&s=19 https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1591393545214390273?t=8FzfyPtFD9FsbY63ssXMSw&s=19
Twitter
Twitter
Oh shit I missed this but Russia reached 80k losses yesterday, 810 were counted yesterday, this is today https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1591692061253713920?t=kSQ9GP4pWad-_58MztbaoQ&s=19
paper cedar
https://twitter.com/UaMikk/status/1574297435026907137 it's 2 months old video but absolute masterpiece
unreal path
copper monolith
buoyant sundial
https://fxtwitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1591745127839830021?s=46&t=2L7ba9w1...
Oh cool, more oppression of free speech
I hope putin is dealt with soon. That person shouldn’t keep getting away with all of these crimes.
unreal path
copper monolith
they ain't gonna be successful in that defence
nocturne osprey
copper monolith
snow pecan
“Tactical” and “rational” eh?
loud knot
🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Source: ISW
paper cedar
🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Source: ISW
lovely lovely
loud knot
Ikr
lilac sparrow
they still have a long way to go before they can start making demands
i believe ukraine will take back more in the next year
paper cedar
Hopefully they can get to Mariupol next year
I think it would make the most sense for them to push here as then they aren't block by rivers and I think more tactics available
viral junco
Donetsk is just on the edge
copper monolith
🧵 , but CW for images Galeev shows in it https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1591807404714369024?t=Pe4oB5efQDExroVdKEQQUQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1592057728914305025?t=C9KFmpVOrKgW8fRF702ixA&s=19 https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1592057731569025026?t=C9KFmpVOrKgW8fRF702ixA&s=19
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clear creek
wait are they trying to claim poland is helping them?
copper monolith
copper monolith
wait are they trying to claim poland is helping them?
Russian propaganda has been claiming that Poland has been planning to take over the Lviv oblast because history and stuff
paper cedar
Lol
That's the funniest thing I ever heard
Poland love for Ukraine is stronger than ever
They literally talk how Ukraine is like our brother
clear creek
if they can claim that cant they also claim that poland is about to invade russia to retake moscow cuz history
clear creek
Poland love for Ukraine is stronger than ever
well evryone exept for the alt-right
copper monolith
belarus belongs to the Lithuanian grand duchy 😎
fossil horizon
If we're going the historical way you could go up to Smolensk
copper monolith
unreal path
unreal path
belarus belongs to the Lithuanian grand duchy 😎
And Kaliningrad belongs to Czechia 🇨🇿
copper monolith
true!!!
gusty tendon
The border gore…
limber wagon
And Kaliningrad belongs to Czechia 🇨🇿
fossil horizon
Ukrainians don't seem to be stopping on the river bank
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1592220614290714624?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1592220614290714624|twgr^30dac11dadf9b824c29bb17dbe3950c5323db9b7|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fyv7zln%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse
It's very big if true
copper monolith
Russian troops reportedly withdrew by about 15-20km from the Dnerp river due to their fears of being shelled by ZSU https://twitter.com/SputnikATONews/status/1592480929091842048?s=20&t=iRRilM7eHFTgh6rJ17-uvQ
limber wagon
Russian troops reportedly withdrew by about 15-20km from the Dnerp river due to ...
A bold strategy. Lets see if retreating when the enemy gets closer will pay off
paper cedar
Russian troops reportedly withdrew by about 15-20km from the Dnerp river due to ...
If that's true then can't Ukraine just take that terrain back?
copper monolith
there are no intact bridges across the river
at least not the ones that can support heavy tech
american volunteers being greeted by recently liberated villagers https://vxtwitter.com/operativno_ZSU/status/1592479321754832901?s=20&t=iRRilM7eHFTgh6rJ17-uvQ
stable girder
belarus belongs to the Lithuanian grand duchy 😎
Sweden reclaims Balticum
copper monolith
limber wagon
I did not realise there were this many Georgians
Also a pretty darn decent amount of Belarusians
fossil horizon
It's not confirmed yet but apparently a few Russian missiles hit a Polish village. People died
https://wiadomosci.radiozet.pl/Polska/rakiety-spadly-na-polske-sa-ofiary-smiertelne
limber wagon
Well then, I wonder how much of a shitshow thats gonna cause
Also quite a bit off course wouldn't you say?
copper monolith
russian missiles are known to be utterly shit
can't even have proper guidance now due to sanctions on processors
Twitter
clear creek
Just heard of the rockets in poland
copper monolith
yes it was mentioned above u lmao
paper cedar
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1592587078789107712?s=20&t=pBfUMyU3IzdMAT1Z...
I talked with my mom about it and she told me that it wasn't a polish village
also it wasn't inside the polish border but next to the polish border
also only ukraine people died
I'ma quickly go research a bit though
wow first page
copper monolith
huh
copper monolith
fuck
mild heart
That does not seem good
grand pier
well fuck, time to google some flights from poland to amsterdam for my partner just to be safe
compact siren
oh my
paper cedar
yeah
fossil horizon
Don't panic
paper cedar
also a lot of unlikes
fossil horizon
Also even if it's true (which it seems plausible to me) it also doesn't mean instant war either
grand pier
It's still not officially confirmed
it's confirmed enough for the polish government to hold an emergency national security council meeting
paper cedar
It would just make Poland even more mad at Russia
fossil horizon
I don't think Poland would invoke article 5 over this (despite the memes) and even if they did I don't think 'accidents' vount as aggression
paper cedar
yeah I really don't expect that to happen
fossil horizon
it's confirmed enough for the polish government to hold an emergency national se...
It is not confirmed then
grand pier
and it just makes me anxious as fuck cause my partner is prime draft material
copper monolith
It's still not officially confirmed
Twitter
paper cedar
but it would for sure make it more escalated for sure for Poland and Poland will remember
I think there is enough sources talk about it to make it confirmed
even Belgium news is talking about it
grand pier
dutch news as well at this point
paper cedar
so it's for sure confirmed
I doubt it would get escalated to Article 5
but Poland will do something
that's for sure
compact siren
unless its confirmed an accident i feel like Article 5 might be invoked
paper cedar
news are saying 2 people died
well we will see what will happen tomorrow
but it's gonna be for sure interesting
grand pier
the village hit is about 7km from the border
copper monolith
quite the distance
grand pier
that is either a very inaccurate missile or not quite an accident
paper cedar
yep
maybe it lost control
flew until ran out of fuel
tbh many things to question
but it is confirmed and the US and Poland militaries will probably find out by tomorrow what happened
fossil horizon
quite the distance
The Russians were bombarding Lviv this morning so it seems plausible that it was an accident
copper monolith
indeed
paper cedar
true
viral junco
Lemme get a pic
Showing the superiority of Russian technology, not worth shit and can't hit shit
fossil horizon
that is either a very inaccurate missile or not quite an accident
I can't imagine why thry would do this on purpuse
I know they are incompetent idiots but this is just nonsense
grand pier
escalate NATO into aggression so they can have an excuse for full mobilization and sell the propaganda of NATO danger and how they want to wipe out russia
tired scaffold
it only takes a few degrees of course deviation to go wildly off-target at the ranges they launch those things
grand pier
escalate NATO into aggression so they can have an excuse for full mobilization a...
the propaganda would of course conveniently leave out the initial rockets that trigger the escalation
limber wagon
and it just makes me anxious as fuck cause my partner is prime draft material
I just got another reason to hurry up and change my gender marker
grand pier
and the main issue is, if NATO their response to this is lack luster that gives russia the excuse to have more rockets "accidentally" fall across borders
since NATO has then proven to not respond to it as long as it's a plausible accident
leaden grove
Arguably it would be smarter to finally deliver the arms Ukraine has been asking for like modern fighter jets and tanks than to respond militarily
fossil horizon
escalate NATO into aggression so they can have an excuse for full mobilization a...
I... don't think they needed any real justification for months now
Their propaganda doesn't need facts anymore
It sounds very counterproductive
Also it's not like they aren't fully mobilizing because they lack justification
They aren't mobilizing because they CAN NOT
unreal path
https://twitter.com/JimLaPorta/status/1592589217623789568?t=CGzMCAo-HlFBhQmW-mX-...
https://fxtwitter.com/afp/status/1592598941119709185?s=46&t=_8t43qqiKqlmBd_G9zy3XA I was already gonna post it so bam
copper monolith
slow lol
unreal path
I just woke up D:
fossil horizon
They aren't mobilizing because they CAN NOT
They don't have weapons, equipment or logistic capabilities for it
leaden grove
copper monolith
great thing to wake up to, huh?
craggy dove
No legit 😭
I fell asleep in class and woke up to a ping from a another server about this
fossil horizon
great thing to wake up to, huh?
At least you can follow the info during the day. I'll have to go to try and sleep soon knowing that this shit is currently going down
unreal path
Okay let's say we found it it's legit and it was intentional, nothing happens unless Poland activated article 5 then the test really begins
copper monolith
At least you can follow the info during the day. I'll have to go to try and slee...
dw, you will wake up, nukes won't fly around
this is unlikely to invoke Article 5
unreal path
I think this is a very dangerous moment but I don't see it ending up with WWIII
fossil horizon
dw, you *will* wake up, nukes won't fly around
Oh I know
It's just that I hate not knowing what the fuck is happening
copper monolith
I'd rather sometimes skip 7 hours and have more details
fossil horizon
Okay let's say we found it it's legit and it was intentional, nothing happens un...
Even if they try and do that it doesn't mean ww3 either
unreal path
I mean even if it's legit we don't even know if Russia intentionally was aiming for Poland.
Plus if that image says it's more likely to be air defense, then I think it wasn't intentional
copper monolith
god she's such an insufferable bitch lol https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1592594908535468034?s=20&t=JtHLG95oj91SR_11kiXBMQ
leaden grove
There‘s already videos up on Russian yt lmao
leaden grove
I'd rather sometimes skip 7 hours and have more details
The Polish meeting just started so I suppose we‘ll get a statement afterwards, I don’t know how long it‘ll take though
leaden grove
Are they discussing it now?
The current state of things is that a military response is unlikely, but first of all the type of missile have to be identified, it might be a Russian missile that missed its target or was deliberately sent to target some sort of infrastructure at the border, or possibly a Ukrainian AA missile
copper monolith
glass meteor
As much as an article 5 invocation could positively affect the war i dont want that level of insane escalation.
copper monolith
leaden grove
As much as an article 5 invocation could positively affect the war i dont want t...
Mhm, and there wouldn’t be enough public support
glass meteor
I think the best couse would be hold article 5 above russia to send much greater support like a large volunteer force or something.
leaden grove
Tbh that might be seen as active participation in the conflict if it‘s supported by governments
glass meteor
True this is a tricky situation i think its best to just see where it goes. Too much to worry about already.
leaden grove
Agreed
copper monolith
a much greater support like fighter jets and tanks, the stuff Ukraine has been asking since the start of the invasion
and also more AA system because millions of Ukrainians are gonna freeze this winter
copper monolith
the visegrad countries have those soviet made planes, Ukraine's specifically asking for those
copper monolith
https://fxtwitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1592599422147661824?s=20&t=JtHLG95oj91SR_...
@paper cedaru silly, silly filly
copper monolith
watching Hasan's stream, he's viewing a live CNN report from Kryvy Rih and the city behind him is just pitch black with a constant waling of air sirens
fuck this is grim
fossil horizon
Apparently Poland is invoking article 4
solid adder
fucking hasan lol
copper monolith
article 4 is wut
tame harness
I have nhk world app on my phone
And saw the thing about Poland
What happens next
twin parrot
article 4 is wut
copper monolith
hn
glass meteor
So basically they had a discussion to decide to have a discussion?
paper cedar
uh hmm
copper monolith
twin parrot
I get that this wont lead directly to WWIII but this shit is genuinely terrifying me
Anyone got any comforting words
Smth to cease the fear
copper monolith
you'll wake up tomorrow
fossil horizon
Anyone got any comforting words
There is close to no chance there will be any escalation following this
copper monolith
lilac sparrow
Think about it this way, america didn’t join the First World War even when our ships got sunk, it wasn’t until the Zimmerman telegram that we decided to join, war looks bad on tv especially when people start dying
We already have a country that is more than willing and able to fight this war for us
twin parrot
Ig im not worried about WWIII im worried about nuclear war
fossil horizon
Smth to cease the fear
Most probably this will lead to further alienation of Russia and more support for Ukraine and maybe also more NATO troops in Poland
twin parrot
Im more ok dying fighting a war than i am getting nuked
glass meteor
Ukrainians working hard always no matter who they are
twin parrot
Manifesting that a secret world order of lizard people does infact exist and they wont allow nuclear conflict
lilac sparrow
We already have a nation who’ll fight this war, we just need to send weapons to them and wait for them to do the job for us. also unless you are living in a city, the Russians won’t waste a nuclear bomb to wipe out a forested area, hell nukes will probably never come out, you get more precision, cause more actual damage and less collateral damage by hitting them with a smart bomb or cruise missile
And if nukes do come out, the war will be over before you know it and there will no longer be a need to worry about another war
copper monolith
twin parrot
🥳 everyones dead
unreal path
lilac sparrow
Hopefully they just demand compensation, an apology and this doesn’t escalate any further. starting to think this whole conflict is being fueled by jingoism
untold raven
Is everyone else ready for IRL Fallout
unreal path
copper monolith
Wouldn't be surprised
unreal path
Yeah I bet it was an accident
dusty jolt
i just heard about this and rushed into here
tame harness
I got a notification on one of my new apps
dusty jolt
concerning stuff
tame harness
So the current report is that it was a Ukraine missile attempting to intercept a Russian missile
If so no war with Russia atm
copper monolith
Not a good image on ukraine either
glass meteor
The only place ive seen it is from an Ethiopian news site so we still have to see
copper monolith
glass meteor
Its just odd that it would fire that way
It would be focused on aiming towards the front and where missiles come from
loud knot
How the fuck did i missed the news about a russian style missile hitting a village in poland and killing 2???
copper monolith
Yeah, it was big news last night
Though it's 100% an accident
Experts on the ground are now investigating if its from ukraine or Russia
Russia had sent nearly 100 rockets on Ukrainian cities, and sadly around 20 hit their targets, resulting in 10 million people being without power
glass meteor
Im hearing a lot more of missed anti missile from ukraine
copper monolith
Possible yeah
glass meteor
Invade ukraine and "secure" the country by forcing the russians out lol
copper monolith
copper monolith
https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/1592823917106069505?t=onti2C-0ngWiQO6y5J5PXA&s=19 https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/1592826583810977793?t=onti2C-0ngWiQO6y5J5PXA&s=19
Twitter
Twitter
grand pier
https://twitter.com/joh5n/status/1592664367203778561?s=46&t=Hg3egIqMh_JCV8LudyJ5...
seems it might be likely
fossil horizon
It's not even close to being a proof of anything but given Russian general incompetence this seems kinda plausible
paper cedar
seems it might be likely
That would make a lot of sense
copper monolith
https://fxtwitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1592811890836918274?t=NseSNbzUEQj3f...
copper monolith
leaden grove
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1592793776019279872?t=peoZ02812HruyyJkNBpX...
Side note but APCs is apparently a mistranslation, they mentioned all-terrain infantry vehicles
unreal path
fossil horizon
They are saying that it's not them
And the demand that their experts be permitted to study the missile
They also said at some point that they could provide proof or Russia's fault
paper cedar
interesting
seems like it's gonna be way more complicated then
I hope Ukraine isn't lying as that really can hit them back
fossil horizon
At this point we may never know
Not only studying an exploded missile is... well complicated but also there has been such an avalanche of information, hypothesis and ideas that any eventual truth could very well drown in the sea of bullshit
paper cedar
well if the government can at least find out then that's good
for the public though we do have a lot of speculations and avalanche of information
so for us we might as well never find out until a government officially confirms it
so pretty much we need to wait and let US, Poland and Ukraine do their job
fossil horizon
If I understand correctly the spokeperson of Ukrainian Air Force says that they are ready to share all material and experts to help with the investigation
unreal path
fossil horizon
copper monolith
In what time frame
limber wagon
gasp shock horror, how low will this man sink
limber wagon
plz
buoyant sundial
He's actually turning 80 on Sunday
I kinda doubt this tbh. Isn’t JB like, 75 at most?
Then again, Russian news is already stating direct inaccuracies. So I wouldn’t be surprised if this is just “lmao silly america you have an old president”
leaden grove
I kinda doubt this tbh. Isn’t JB like, 75 at most?
Nah
buoyant sundial
Hmm.
lilac sparrow
Having old presidents in not uncommon, Ronald Reagan was 70 when he took office
Which is also the same age trump was iirc
buoyant sundial
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1592896368993271809?t=d0U8avPY4wuWp55L...
Well regardless, at this point I think this just makes sense. It’d just be awkward/uncomfortable for somebody to have a warmongering dictator just show up and say “happy birthday”
buoyant sundial
Which is also the same age trump was iirc
Ok but I thought that DT and JB were around the same age
buoyant sundial
Well regardless, at this point I think this just makes sense. It’d just be awkwa...
I think it’s an unspoken rule in society that if you are a villain, you don’t show up to the birthday parties of relatively decent people.
snow pecan
The only exception being Maleficent
clear creek
been kinda silent this past 24hours or is it just me
fossil horizon
As silent as constant bombardment can be
But yeah nothing "new" happened
Ukrainian experts have joined the investigation team in Poland. The energy grid is barely holding and einter approaches
Meanwhile Russian ground forces keep being pushed back slowly
When the winter comes things will orobably slow down even more
Btw the first snow has already fallen a few days ago
And the weather seems chilly to say the least
paper cedar
Winter is coming
copper monolith
stiff quartz
Lithuanian coat of arms looks so good
copper monolith
hell yeah 😎
copper monolith
lmao
unreal path
copper monolith
holy shit
clear creek
Petrograd go boom
copper monolith
unreal path
https://vxtwitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1594021266729598982?s=20&t=H5aLL21Q5gIr3C...
more like the current prime minister of the UK until like a week later
copper monolith
lmao
copper monolith
https://twitter.com/maria_shagina/status/1593896829548204033?s=20&t=H5aLL21Q5gIr3CryTHlZoA https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1593979976793088001?s=20&t=H5aLL21Q5gIr3CryTHlZoA
Twitter
Twitter
copper monolith
copper monolith
copper monolith
copper monolith
wicked panther
Babe wake up its our weekly PowerPoint presentation on the war in ukraine
copper monolith
hel yeah
unreal path
Overnight blasts near Ukraine nuclear plant are ‘playing with fire!’ – UN nuclear chief https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/11/1130857
glass meteor
I swear with the way the world is now i dont doubt the world map will have broken or new countries in a year from now.
copper monolith
Decolonization of Russia
copper monolith
Did its job https://fxtwitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1594564715656916992?t=rl_0E9XoLi9cxSR-sqEc5Q&s=19
https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1594673811068276741?t=qwkbHDGEtDlBxcLTULMqqg&s=19 https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1594674064139976708?t=NM6NzuQmdG2RkFqcj5mZbg&s=19
Twitter
Twitter
paper cedar
https://vxtwitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1594400156774203392?t=8bA9mQS7rdOjQPyrFLw...
I thought they were fireworks first
unreal path
glass meteor
Russia keeps digging the hole they're in deeper and deeper. At some point can they even get out?
copper monolith
Russia keeps digging the hole they're in deeper and deeper. At some point can th...
I think they're already past that point, the closer a country is, the longer it will take for relations to recover, like for Ukraine it'll take generations before Ukrainians will trust Russians, us Baltics, maybe a few decades, and so on
but so far internationally the only countries that support russia vocally are in the single digits and they themselves are shitty places
copper monolith
oh yeah didn't erdogan say he's gonna send his forces to Iraq and Syria
unreal path
unreal path
oh yeah didn't erdogan say he's gonna send his forces to Iraq and Syria
Idk haven't been caught up with Türkiye
silk iron
What's the word on the possibility of The Russian Federation moving to general mobilisation in 2023? Is it baseless speculation, rhetoric from the Z bloggers, or a plausible last gambit from the Kremlin?
and to further that question, what would be the rationale (or irrationale), of the Kremlin for general mobilisation?
and what further support (humanitarian and logistical) for Ukraine would be required from Western countries in the event the Kremlin escalates further?
fossil horizon
What's the word on the possibility of The Russian Federation moving to general m...
Last time I checked the general opinion was that they can NOT move to a general mobilisation
they simply don't have enough advanced equipment for everyone and human wave tactics stopped working around 1920s
also it would be logistically impossible to move many troops to the front then there currently are
and even now they have trouble with supply
silk iron
I agree with your point, The Russian army has failed to equip a significant proportion of the currently mobilised force.
glass meteor
There were videos from the mobilization with conscripts using 1950's AK's and completely destroyed guns.
silk iron
My concern is there maybe a future scenario if the war prolongs for a year, where the Kremlin moves to general mobilisation for purely political reasons to appease Russian ultranationalists, despite the current logistical problems facing the Russian Army.
That in turn could cause another exodus from Russia.