#mac-os๐ŸŽ

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hybrid quiver
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and i consider myself to be decent with computers

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its weird i can CD into it

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and see application support

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just cant access it

proud igloo
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The checkbox only appears when you're in your home directory.

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(the one you get to with Cmd-Shift-h)

hybrid quiver
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got it

proud igloo
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Could also Cmd-Shift-g and type ~/Library

hybrid quiver
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ok, re installing

proud igloo
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Enjoy the redownload ๐Ÿ˜„

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I download the game like five times every patch on all my machines.

hybrid quiver
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we'll see how it foes

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goes

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their mac client is so shit

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prob best for them to not release in this state

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I had to use a script from blocking escape from fucking up my game

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and i hear an alert sound everytime i click

proud igloo
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I had the bloops on key presses for a while, I think it's probably gone by now.

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There's a bit of polish needed.

hybrid quiver
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how do u get rid of bloops

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it drives me crazy

proud igloo
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Only really happened the first few times I ran it, so heaven knows.

hybrid quiver
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ah alright

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well appreciate ur help

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hope this reinstall fixes it

proud igloo
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If it keeps doing it, consider reporting it and flinging some system information over to the techsupport email.

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I can't say I've seen this particular type of almost-working crash before, almost as if there's a new asset on the login screen that it borks on.

hybrid quiver
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yea its weird, i was even able to play earlier today

proud igloo
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Ooh - "New Vulkan SDKs with enhanced developer support for Apple platforms"

hybrid quiver
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@proud igloo reinstall did it

proud igloo
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Odd. I wonder if it was the config, the pack, or possibly the shader cache.

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Good that you're up and running tho!

hybrid quiver
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yep., heres to hoping next patch doesnt break

stable aurora
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Oply

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xbox I play on xbox and pc

peak marlin
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Are there any ways to use PoB without dual booting? I'm not opposed to dual booting, but not in the mood to have a day of troubleshooting if I don't have to

The browser version of PoB is impossible to copy-paste into, at least for me
Also found a supposed mac version that someone made for PoB, but it seems to crash every time I paste a pastebin link into it--but I need to test it further

stable aurora
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What Goldra says is exactly my problem, too....

peak marlin
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I'm considering just asking someone to give me a screenshot of the build in PoB, since I only really care about the skill tree

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And now I'm getting the can't press any keys on keyboard in game bug :D

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Restarting a bunch fixed it, thank fuck

proud igloo
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Awesome ๐Ÿ˜„

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Can't say I've looked much at PoB, would kind of expect it to run fine enough under Wine. VMs are probably hard due to 3D acceleration.

peak marlin
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I know it would, it's just that setting up stuff like that is always going to take multiple hours of involved troubleshooting
And I don't feel like dealing with that sort of thing right now

stable aurora
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has anyone already figured out a way to get the new POB version to work?

proud igloo
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Does it fail in new and fun ways?

stable aurora
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since the new passive tree is out, it always crashes..

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if anyone has a working version, pls let me know

dull oxide
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has steam poe updated for macos the game's screen changed from heist to echoes and stills remains broken on launch

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and there hasn't been a updated notification on downloads

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or anything that it needs to be updated

proud igloo
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@dull oxide PoE on Steam uses the same data file repository and gets executable patches at the same rate as macOS Standalone and PC versions.

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The patch on macOS Steam will be available at the same moment as it will on PC Steam.

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(give or take some tiny amount of time between when the repositories are made available)

worthy epoch
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poe on mac sucks for me :C

minor marlin
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:(

dull oxide
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i can laucnh poe now but i can't type a name for my character to actually play

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and there is nothing on options that lets me type or do anything other than being stuck in the character creation menu

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so quite literally a bugged launch

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and now is fixed

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the models kinda look blurry

chilly anvil
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what hardware are you running on? my guess would be dynamic resolution is scaling down resolution in a desperate attempt to get a decent frame rate

dull oxide
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idk have 54 fps

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the game takes long to load

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my pc lags while it is loading a level

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and it crashes while im trying to leave the starting area

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i see a gap of ground model missing in the starting area

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im stuck at 60 fps

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yeah no the game is unplayble the game is stuck at twilight strand the music starts overlapping each other and then my pc screen went black and had to force restart my entire mac

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is kinda playable now only if i don't do anything to resize it

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ing at 25 fps

zenith smelt
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What are you running on? Intel or M1 mac?

neat hornet
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what program do you use for POB in mac ?

dull oxide
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is native macos

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catalina

dull oxide
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fighting big mobs of enemies lowers me to 10 fps

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while not fighting much im at 45 fps

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as my limit adn when im loading is 60 fps but quickly goes to 45

zenith smelt
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Ok so when I launch POE nativley and through cross over it crashes

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This is not ideal

zenith smelt
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When I launch POE on crossover through steam I get an error messege then I get stuck on a black screen, anyone ecountered this before?

dull oxide
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are there any less populated servers?

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the amount of people in 1 town is crashing my game

proud igloo
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Actual game crash or just the usual disconnects from the launch?

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Town instances tend to be filled to whatever handful capacity they have, so gateways won't matter much at all.

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As there's more than 30 people on all ๐Ÿ˜„

dull oxide
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then the game is unplayable ahve to restart from act 1 on a new character again

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thanks ofr the help

proud igloo
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What hardware are you on now again?

dull oxide
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idk what hardware

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don't even know how to check it

proud igloo
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You can see your GPU and CPU in "About this Mac" on the apple menu

dull oxide
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where is that even?

proud igloo
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Top left corner of your screen on the menu bar there's an Apple menu.

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In that there's an item "About this Mac".

dull oxide
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iMac (27-inch, Late 2012)

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processor 2.9 GHz quad core intel core i5

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memory 8 gb 1600 mhz ddr3

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startup macintosh hd

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grapichs nvidia geforce gtx 660m 512 mb

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doesn't said anything about hardware

proud igloo
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Alright, that's what I was looking for.

dull oxide
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for?

proud igloo
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You're unfortunately just around the very minimum specifications for PoE.

dull oxide
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what does that mean

chilly anvil
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You're trying to play this game on an eight-year-old computer. And that doesn't really work very well.

dull oxide
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well i can't afford anything

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and my parents don't let me buy anything fro myself so i can't do anything about better pcs

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i can only play in this junk

proud igloo
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I'm guessing you've tried pulling all the settings down to the lowest, and run the game in half resolution (whatever the option is called)?

dull oxide
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i always pull the settings to down on all my steam games

proud igloo
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I feel with you, but I don't have much advice past that.

dull oxide
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and then sometimes my games crashed all the time

proud igloo
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This league start there is some additional problems with disconnects, primarily in towns.

dull oxide
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with war thunder i did something to stop it from crashing mid matches but now it just glitches out after a few matches

proud igloo
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They're working on fixing those.

dull oxide
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on advanced settings it says i should let engine multi and dinamic resolution on

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but idk if they affect frames too

proud igloo
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Dynamic resolution draws at a smaller resolution to keep framerate good, so it's an option you probably want.

dull oxide
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but you mean on or off

proud igloo
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On.

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Engine multithreading lets the game use more of your CPU cores, so also good on.

dull oxide
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well the only place i can enjoy poe is on console

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while in a area by myself and few enemies is 50 fps

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but a small group is alreay 20 to 15 fps

serene mulch
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try a server region where local time is 4am-7am for fewer people

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and then immediately go to one of the less popular towns

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a7 town is normally quiet by now

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just avoid oriath at all costs

dull oxide
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you mean act 5?

versed coyote
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anyone here with a M1 mac? game keeps crashing for me on startup

proud igloo
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@versed coyote The patcher (and game) does not support the M1 platform natively yet, and the code cannot be run through the Rosetta 2 translation layer.

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Unless something has changed very recently.

versed coyote
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aw man ):

proud igloo
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Where and how are you crashing out?

versed coyote
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when i start the game on steam nothing opens it just opens a crash window

proud igloo
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Ah, Steam doesn't have Apple Silicon executables either so it tries running the translation layer and fails.

versed coyote
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it says something about bad instruction

proud igloo
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Yeah, that's most likely the instruction set thing. Stay tuned for future news on the M1 platform I guess.

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Chris mentioned their problems in a Q&A recently so they're definitely aware that Apple Silicon exists ^_^

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Can't really tell from the outside what exactly went pear-shaped there, but it looks close enough.

dull oxide
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got 4 lag spikes entering on sarns encampment

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for the first time entering it

dull oxide
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lot sof people in that town as well

dull oxide
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the pvp thing is laggier with the spammers

dull oxide
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the game froze, i died then i get kicked back into the menu

tidal dock
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Hi, anyone playing the game with new macbook air m1? How is the performance?

chilly anvil
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Doesn't currently run, see above

proper zenith
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I feel like a huge contributing factor to lag/low fps is that you can't play in fullscreen, anybody have an idea for this? I know its a known bug but just wondering if anybody's come up with a meatball fix for it lol

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Actually i guess i could just avoid pressing ESC as much as i can but idk

dull oxide
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what builds are better for mac without harming the fps besides minion builds

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and that also wipes big groups of enemies before fps start to go between 8 fps

chilly anvil
dull oxide
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what you mean that it isn't going to work?

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i was thinking of probably a dominion blow build that consumes enemies fast and makes a soldier quickly with herald of purity

dull oxide
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didn't had trouble with the groups of enemies cuz myt minions were killing them fast

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but now i have trouble with the enemies size on act 6 and lack of life or life regen and im dying in 2 seconds now before the -30 res

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also audio was breaking or cutting off whenever i used a channelling skill

serene mulch
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What theyโ€™re trying to say is that your computer simply isnโ€™t powerful enough - there is no choice of build here that isnโ€™t going to run at 10fps or worse

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It will get worse as you get into maps

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Your only option here is to somehow find a more powerful computer to play on

peak marlin
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Yep

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Unfortunately, this is either a poorly optimized, or just generally graphically intense game
And it'll fuck with older systems

proud igloo
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The latter, coupled with that there's hard constraints on what type of assets may be preloaded.

dull oxide
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well I canโ€™t afford anything as I said so this what I have to play anyway

dull oxide
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you know when you all 3 said it wasn't going to work well i got it to work anyway by changing some things in the graphic settings and in big groups or medium sizes of enemies i can still play with close to both 20,30 and 40 fps

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so im currently at act 7 with a necro of lvl 59 and 2,3k life with 425 es

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also levels now load faster

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except for towns which take moments cuz of the amount of people and also because of their bright cosmetics but it loads

supple glade
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Have u guys tried using nvidia geforce now service? Lets u play on their systems and streams the game as video so the performance only depends on your netspeed and also its free with a bit of wait time to get servers

elder mango
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how do i use PoB on mac

lean prawn
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So I have tried Parallels, Crossover, and the Mac client on M1 with no luck. So far the only thing that has managed to work is GeForce Now. Obviously that comes with issues of latency and all that.

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@elder mango Trying PoB on Crossover now, will let ya know.

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Looks like PoB does run on Crossover, so that's neat.

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It does cost money after the 14 day trial, so that's probably not worth it. But it's possible that https://pob.party will be updated by then.

harsh island
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If you need any help, just DM me ๐Ÿ™‚
If there's any interest I could write down the specific steps that worked for me to get it going.

proud igloo
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@languid comet If it's not too much of a bother, could we get a pin for the above PoB workaround?

dull oxide
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@proud igloo it is done i reached endgame and unlocked the act 10 kitava achievement and im not having trouble with big groups in maps

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although it only lags when a certain ritual starts to degen my minons in 1 place unless i moved them out then is ok

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so not bad for a 8 year old mac i can still finish the game as usual

worthy epoch
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what're your settings?

dull oxide
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I changed dinamic culling enabled and texture filtering to 16x and that was it

chilly anvil
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โ€ฆ uh, that doesn't make any sense

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dynamic culling doesn't affect performance outside of certain very busy scenarios, and 16x filtering is the most costly option

dull oxide
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not really it fixed my problems

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and i finished the game as well

vital frigate
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anisotropic filtering is pretty cheap, so I'm guessing dynamic filtering was just good enough to keep your frames up

proud igloo
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"finished the game" heh ๐Ÿ˜„

dull oxide
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well im doing maps

proud igloo
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"campaign" is a more accurate word then ๐Ÿ™‚

dull oxide
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well that is finished so the endgame is what im doing

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although shame you can't edit the hideout once the map device is implanted

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also shame there is no predetermined loot filter like the console version

fossil dock
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Hi all, is it possible to change game resolution in osx version?

proud igloo
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There's a fixed resolution scaling option in the options to have it render the 3D bits at a lower resolution, keeping the UI crisp.

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Very handy if you've got a retina screen and want to play in more interactive framerates ๐Ÿ˜„

fossil dock
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My AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 8G - on retina can't work normally, but in windows with 1900 resolution work pretty well

white pine
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anyone have a link to the current working installer ?

proud igloo
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Not sure, have you tried the link from the original announcement post?

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The dmg seems to differ greatly from the one I downloaded in the past.

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I don't have any legacy macs up and running atm to check if it works from scratch, I assume you had the AVX2 problem in the past?

white pine
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yep the original announcement post is still broken..

proud igloo
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I wonder if it's trying to reuse bits from the Application Support library foplder.

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Hecc it, where's my 2011 MBP...

supple escarp
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if anyone knows how to get POB on a mac using winebottler can you DM me. i keep getting an error when i try to create the file to run on my macbook

proud igloo
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There's a pinned message with a guide that supposedly works.

supple escarp
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where in here?

proud igloo
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The thumb-tack looking icon up top by the topic.

supple escarp
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ahh gotcha thanks ill have a look

proud igloo
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@white pine The patcher seems to still be hosed indeed. You may want to report this on the forum.

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As a workaround after doing that, you may want to consider running the Steam version, as that doesn't use the patcher.

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I guess I should report it too.

white pine
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@proud igloo ty ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

proud igloo
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There's a bit varying reports on if it works or not.

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My Mac doesn't have enough graphics to run PoE itself.

white pine
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im on a new MM m1 so ill see how I go ๐Ÿ˜†
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proud igloo
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Oh? The M1 is hosed for both Standalone and Steam.

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The only solution for those at the moment is running the PC version in Crossover.

white pine
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.....my dreammmm

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nooo

proud igloo
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It's on the macOS Known Issues list and they're very aware of it.

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Got around filing a bug report of my own at least, so that's something.

white pine
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ill just have to wait then.... by chance to you know of a version of awaken poe trade for macOS?

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or the like.

proud igloo
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No idea, but I've seen bug reports for Awakened PoE Trade on Linux, so it might be a bit portable.

white pine
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ok.. thanks again @proud igloo

proper zenith
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Scratch that, it crashes as soon as I click "import" lol

proper zenith
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Apparently the version he has posted isn't the most recent, they have a short explanation of how to get the latest version through github but I have no idea how to do that so

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Turns out i'm dumb, i still had the old fork installed so I deleted everything PoB related and reinstalled and it works perfectly now

dull oxide
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there is a bug on joining and not being able to do any skills or abiliies when fighting

dull oxide
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the servers are so laggy

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even for the console version

supple glade
supple glade
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Is there a poe awakened port for macos?

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Or is there any way toh get it working any other way?

near goblet
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@supple glade it's available on steam for macs now

supple glade
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@near goblet not talking about the game, I'm looking for the overlay software poeAwakened

near goblet
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Ohh mb

proud igloo
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The program runs on Linux somehow and it's Electron-based so it could arguably be ported. It's the macOS-specific things that may affect how well it would interface with PoE.

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I forget if you can run PoE "fullscreen", but if it's on one of those single-app desktops, popping an overlay may be hard or impossible due to how macOS works.

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It could technically probably work if you play windowed on the main desktop, but it would likely require the author or someone else to attempt it.

stable aurora
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anyone experiencing graphics issues after yesterday's patch?

north night
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A lot of people

proud igloo
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Haven't heard anything about macOS, but it's probably not untouched ๐Ÿ˜„

proper zenith
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i've had graphics issues all league , mainly during Maven fights where the bosses don't load in for like 5 seconds lol. but i'm on an older computer so its expected i guess

zenith smelt
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Hey guys, when I launch POE on crossover through steam on my M1 mac its says 'running' and the wine32on64preloader shows up but nothing else appears to happen?

can anyone please help

serene mulch
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Isnโ€™t there an M1 native client now? Why do you need crossover?

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My understanding was that wine didnโ€™t really support M1 macs yet?

proud igloo
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@serene mulch PoE doesn't have one yet, last I heard they were working on supporting the platform.

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There's been youtube videos demonstrating how Crossover supposedly ran PoE somewhat.

rustic sparrow
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Hey guys, I think my game is bugged on Mac, is there anywhere I can ask about this?

proud igloo
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You could always outline your problems here, search the forums for existing reports, and report new ones if you don't find any.

rustic sparrow
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i cant seem to find any reports on my problem with actual solutions..
basically my problem is that i dont have a Light Radius in any dungeons i enter. I thought it was a feature until i saw some Streamers playing the game...
I posted on the forums a little while ago but havent gotten a response. Old forums tell me to set shadows to OFF but i cant find that setting.

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i also am not using any passives that would affect Radius

proud igloo
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So you're not running a low-life build or something?

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Probably post a bug on it, there's a "Mac Client" tag.

dull oxide
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so activating delirius mirrors and putting obrs of delirium into maps makes you blind and the screen goes semi black

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with only been able to see the life bars

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same on incursion

proud igloo
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Exciting ๐Ÿ˜„

dull oxide
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and raiding sindicate too

proud igloo
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Could be some fun compatibility between the generated shaders and your particular hardware, probably doesn't hurt posting about it.

dull oxide
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however i can see when im facing the syndicate boss

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but going back outside is like clouds of nighttime outside

proud igloo
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I forget if Delirium postprocesses like Incursions do.

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Can you run breaches?

dull oxide
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yes but is dark as well

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like the other leagues

proud igloo
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Sounds like a good bug to report if it hasn't already been done, as there's nothing in the Known Issues about it.

dull oxide
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like one of those mods in fallout 4 which a ring turns you into that ghost effect of far harbor npc when you drink radiation of a shrine

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same goes for the main menu as well

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the back ground is dark but options or settings and ability to log in are present and brighter

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how do i report bugs in the game?

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commands often bugged out when i can check my inventory or do any skills

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so i have to press I before walking

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and then check my skills before walking after teleporting to hideout

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the commands are broken you can't even put the menu up by pressing escape

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it just makes a noise as if there is no commands

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well i can't report bugs if the chat input is broken too

rustic sparrow
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i'm very new to the game, but I dont think I'm doing a low life build? Even when on full health I find places to be completely dark. I can send a screenshot of gameplay if it would help.

I've also already posted about the bug on the POE technical support site a couple days ago, it hasnt been responded to yet.

proper zenith
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If your HUD is visible but the rest of the screen is black, that sounds similar to a problem people have been having due to some weird texture loading bugs happening currently

proud igloo
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My guess would be NaNs in postprocessing.

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Remember the black square effect that some people had with some MTX the other league? That was probably a similar thing.

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Hard to tell from the outside of course, I leave the fun for GGG ๐Ÿ˜„

proper zenith
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Could that happen to the entire screen though? Idk, but there've been some insane problems with it recently lol

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I've been having issues with floors just not loading in

proud igloo
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Common to the mechanics mentioned before is that there's some amount of postprocessing involved in each.

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Incursion has the radial blur, Breach has the bitcrush, heaven knows what Delirium has but I'm sure it's making stuff grey?

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It could be something completely different of course like lighting, but UI tends to be composited on top of any such shenanigans.

rustic sparrow
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i can see my game, its just extremely dark, so it isnt completely black. I can see my HUD, everything runs fine, its just that the light radius is the only thing missing. Up until now I've just been playing on max monitor brightness

dull oxide
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this bug also affects act1 town

serene mulch
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You might want to delete this screenshot, itโ€™s got identifying information in it

dull oxide
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idk what you mean by that

serene mulch
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It had your full name in the corner, generally best to avoid giving out info like that

dull oxide
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that isn't my name

serene mulch
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well, someone's personal information, anyway

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cmd-shift-4 to take a screenshot of a region

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draw a box on the screen to only screenshot that area

chilly anvil
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or, even better: cmd-shift-4, tap spacebar, click a window to screenshot only that window

dull oxide
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servers are unstable

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i keep crashing every few mins within a map

stable aurora
valid heath
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if you have enough VRAM that is

dull oxide
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there is always graphics problems for mac

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like the menu screen is bugged

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then the game freezes when i try joining a server

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then you have to go through the annoyance of lots of people in 1 place and get disconnected and repeat 7 times till your character model and everyone else loads in and press inventory to check your commands don't get broken before you can move and restart again if they are, then wait till you get 45 fps as max na wait the same when you are in your hideout as well as the minions and hope you don't get server crashed while waiting

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and also hope you don't get server crashed in the first map you put

dull oxide
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red maps are broken

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im getting desync mid boss fight

valid heath
dull oxide
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Iโ€™m on the California with lowest ms

stable aurora
proud igloo
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The recent texture streaming improvements has extremely low-res placeholder textures always loaded, and will stream in high-res textures if space and time allows.

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If you're experiencing scenarios where they never do, you may have to turn down your settings or maybe file a bug report on whether it's intended to be the way you observe.

stable aurora
proud igloo
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The bug reports forum has a Mac Client tag, so likely there.

amber kindle
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Hey guys, Iโ€™ve got an issue. When I start steam version of POE, it opens, I see the logo and when I loads (gears are rotating) it crashes. I verified local files 2 times. What should I do?

valid heath
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Recently GGG limited textures to medium for user with less than 3GB of VRAM

nova sierra
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Hey guys. There is a option for path building on mac?

nova sierra
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Thanks!

silver osprey
proud igloo
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Neato, just the light from the fire sources ๐Ÿ˜„

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Someone earlier complained about black content in general too.

silver osprey
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Yeah, I managed to walk around and randomly started conversations with NPCs because I had NO idea where I was ๐Ÿ˜‚
Hope it can be fixed, I want to play again haha

dull oxide
silver osprey
dull oxide
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that patch just made joining a server much more slower

dull oxide
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now poe is more broken after that patch and the dark screen hasn;t been fixed

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maps are even slower and mostly kicking me back to character selection and freezing my pc and making maps a no go to after completing them once

proud igloo
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Are you talking about 3.13.1b or the just released Hotfix 1 for it?

dull oxide
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the patch that they released im stuck in the loading screen of oriath docks

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it loads from the menu to just 1 fps and is loading forever

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it just freezes now when i try to log back after getting hard desycn 3 times in a row with 3 maps

proud igloo
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Are you freezing for longer than the disconnect timer (6s?)?

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Could you remind me of your system specs again?

dull oxide
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yes i don't get sent back to the menu whenit freezes

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why?

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same is happening for other characters im hearing both the menu music and the ambient noise of oriath

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but it doesn't show fps

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does it always happen?

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like they release a patch to bugs dan then gamebreaking bugs appear

proud igloo
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Why? To help you figure whatโ€™s up and support with technically grounded guesses.

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Iโ€™m hitting the sack now as this drags out, good luck.

dull oxide
proud igloo
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Going to bed.

dull oxide
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is there any other mac mod active?

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the ones that have the green name like yours

proud igloo
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Note that Iโ€™m a tool dev, not a mod. I have nothing to do with GGG or any powers but a sweet green name and competence in figuring the game data files out.

dull oxide
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even the intro of ggg noises cuts out sometimes

sonic cedar
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hello, i just downloaded POE a few weeks ago and i created 2 characters. Only 1 character loads, but the 2nd character won't load for some reason (I try to click on the maps, inventory, etc. and it all works.). Everything works fine except I don't see my 2nd character load at all...any ideas?

dull oxide
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i have steam enabled i meant the noise is delayed when the intro appears

valid heath
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launch options

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--nologo

dull oxide
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the game is still bricked i can't join and it freezes on the loading screen

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so oriath docks is a game breaking town

valid heath
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imo if you rly want 2 play PoE your best bet would be installing Windows on 2nd hard drive or something and getting some uptodate drivers for that GPU

bold plover
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cant u just run the game with steam proton?

dull oxide
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steam what?

dull oxide
dull oxide
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does resolution factor even help on anything?

proud igloo
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Helps a wee bit with VRAM pressure from the framebuffers, but primary value is a severe reduction in fill rate needed.

dull oxide
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what does that mean from what you said

dull oxide
proud igloo
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I forget what way the thing goes, but whichever direction serves as a reduction in 3D resolution increases performance.

proper zenith
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Ya put that thing all the way to the left

dull oxide
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now i can play but maps crash me with very low res

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can't even get to the boss arena either

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so low res is dangerous now

dull oxide
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low res frequently freezes you in towns

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and steam stopped responding after removing teh game again

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now the servers are down when i come back

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it just says operation timed out

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@proud igloo something just pop up

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whats the error league

stable aurora
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UnlimitedBladeWorks ะบะธะดะฐะตั‚ ะฝะฐ ัˆะผะพั‚

dense tundra
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qweqwe

sand pine
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I would really like to play this game on my M1 Mac.. wish the devs would update the macOS Steam build!

proud igloo
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I would have my hopes for a Standalone installation more, as Steam to my knowledge isn't universal yet.

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No idea if Valve is making any progress on that.

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In any way, I'm sure there'll be a Apple Silicon client available when they have something working that's worth giving out to regular users.

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The reason that the flavour of Steam matters is that programs launched from software that isn't universal will run in emulated mode as well. The Firefox folks had trouble with their auto-update as their new version would be launched as emulated x86_64 despite having arm64 code.

fast matrix
hexed surge
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Can Mac play with windows

proud igloo
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@hexed surge Yes, PC and macOS are the same realm, same accounts, same characters.

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All patches come to both OSes at the exact same time.

hexed surge
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Okay. Thank you do you think a Mac book pro could run it? What do you play on

proud igloo
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I play on Windows, but have an ancient old MBP that won't launch the game, and a stupidly overpowered Hackintosh that can run the game.

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Depends on the model of your machine, but there's probably a higher chance of enjoyment if it has a discrete graphics chip, but give it a try and see.

hexed surge
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Okay will do

proper zenith
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I have a 5-6 year old MBP that runs it sorta ok, it starts to shit during intense stuff like delirium or heists though

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Dont expect much better than 20-30 fps lol

toxic iron
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also i have found that on macs, disabling dynamic resolution also helps with framerate issues

fluid blade
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123

elder mango
supple glade
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Anyone here uses geforce now to play?

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I'm facing a issue where my cursor is not visible in the game cant even login

fast matrix
stable aurora
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Ch

elder mango
dull oxide
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they haven't fixed the dark screen bug

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and the crashes when you make a new character with the dark screen bug are constant

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thus making a new character for a new build impossible

vague current
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anyone here successfuly using the mac client

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i run windows in boot camp but decied to try the client, it crashed after literally one minute of being in game so i assumed it was nonfunctional

nimble gulch
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Is there any way to download the mac client currently?

proud igloo
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On x86_64 the original Standalone patcher should still run assuming that your CPU is capable of running it, and there's always Steam.

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Nothing new for the silly new Apple Silicon Macs as far as I've heard.

vague current
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The Mac steam client is broken af. Worked for a total of thirty seconds before closing unexpectedly

hexed mesa
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Does anyone here know if the macOS version can play with an external GPU?

dull oxide
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clicking on the loading screen breaks the commands

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when you log in and choose a character

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and hours for the game to load a town is irritating

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but the commands being broken they need to fix that game breaking bug

silver osprey
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^ yup

silver osprey
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supposed so... ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

valid heath
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try to disable dynamic resolution

dull oxide
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delirium and incursion adn some syndicates raids have that so you can pretty much died to an enemy hidden cuz you can't see anything

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at least sirus's arena does not have that problem for good

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plus some maps have that problem as well

dull oxide
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it still remains the same

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the main menu also has the blur/dark screen bug so is annoying that you can't see the characters and nee to clik around to see which one you going for but also increases the chances of your pc getting frozen for cliking too much

dull oxide
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ok

normal hearth
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Would I be able to run poe on a Macbook Air 2017?

valid heath
normal hearth
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fair enough

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makes sense

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@valid heath thanks for the reply though, much appreciated โค๏ธ

knotty spoke
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Would I be able to run poe on a Macbook Air 2017?
I can't even run it properly on a macbook pro 2020

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Anything I can do to improve fps, fix lag?

vague current
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I run it through boot camp. The OS X client is terrible

proud igloo
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Mac-specific improvements from the 3.13.1e patch notes preview, supposed to arrive next week:

Fixed a bug where you couldn't rotate while using Channelling skills if the skill was assigned to the right or middle mouse button.
Fixed a bug where Hideouts couldn't be imported or exported.
Fixed a bug where the client window buttons would no longer function after attempting to import or export a Hideout.
Fixed a client crash that could occur when resizing the client window.

signal cloak
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hi there, sorry if i missed it im new here, but where can i download the macos version of poe?

proud igloo
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@signal cloak For Intel-based Macs you may either download the standalone installer from the original announcement about the experimental client (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2936392), or install it via macOS Steam.
For Apple Silicon (M1) Macs, there is currently no native Path of Exile client as GGG are still porting it to the platform and Apple's emulation of x64 executables is not capable of handling PoE's instruction use.
If you're on a M1, some people report some success using the Windows client via Crossover, but I cannot attest to that.

signal cloak
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tysm @proud igloo iโ€™ll be sure to try it out!!

boreal delta
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this is what my game looks like

proud igloo
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Of the "dark and gritty", your machine sure nails the dark ๐Ÿ™‚

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I'm not sure how well reported this bug has been on the forums and to tech support, but it's been seen in here a few times.

vagrant canyon
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Nvm

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Found it

dull oxide
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@proud igloo i finally made a tanky build with some help of tft people

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althought one of them got pissed about how other people were changing his ideas and gear he suggested before

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and then another said too many people were suggesting many gears over others

dull oxide
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it affects delirium incursion and some syndicates raids badly

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plus some maps like coves

silver osprey
dull oxide
dull oxide
silver osprey
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youโ€™re lucky, iโ€™ve got it literally on all maps .. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dull oxide
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well thats the worse thing unless you have a minion build to not be attacked by a hidden enemy

silver osprey
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I gave up playing on mac until they have fixed it ....

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But yeah couldโ€™ve gone with my minions lol

dull oxide
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ok

somber zealot
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so... still no escape key, or is that just me?

boreal delta
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guys how do i open path of buillding community on mac

proud igloo
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There's a bunch of attempts to run it on macOS. Some use Wine, some seems to have some sort of custom frontend.

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Some of them are in channel pins, not sure how well they work currently.

boreal delta
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is there no easy way.. all i want to do is check out this beginner build's skill tree ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

proud igloo
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It's a bit tricky as PoB is a very Windows:y program to begin with, and work on cross-platform implementations is trickling.

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pob.party used to be a nice browser implementation, but doesn't seem to do imports well at all.

valid heath
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i think one of the comments there has even easier solution for this

proud igloo
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That one may not quite work with recent changes to how things are launched in PoB, havenโ€™t looked closely at it yet.

dull oxide
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the loading bugged out

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is just the 2 gears and a black screen and the menu never appears

magic iris
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Yeah there was a recent change in PoB where they take command line arguments, which was originally unimplemented in pobfrontend. I added support last week so when aspel merges it should work again. AFAIK PoB are shortly going to introduce some further breaking changes to the source tree layout, though, so it might break again then. ๐Ÿ™‚

wary oyster
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hey i cant get into full screen on macOS

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anyone know how to enable full screen mode

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it's just opening up in a tiny window.

proud igloo
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I forget if it's there, but I think the maximize button puts it fullscreen on another desktop, as is customary on the platform.

wary oyster
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figured it out

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runs terribly on a 2019 macbook pro

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uninstalled

proud igloo
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Note that there's a resolution scaling slider to cut it down to a more reasonable resolution, but if you're on integrated graphics, it's probably not going to run well in the first place.

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Got no idea what SKUs there are for that vintage, as there's a whole bunch.

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Vega 16 or 20 if you're going high-end, I guess.

neat hornet
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anybody got this error ? i just update to bigsur and install, after update and run i got this error

stable aurora
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How is it? Playing on mac...

vague current
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Awful

proud igloo
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Two aspects to it really. Most macs are a bit potato when it comes to hardware, and the client in general has some rough edges.

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Ran OK as far as I could tell on my Hackintosh, but that's stupidly overpowered compared to most actual macs.

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Client is still "experimental", so set expectations accordingly.

vague current
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Poe runs fine on boot camp on my laptop and awful in OS X

silver osprey
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Yeah bootcamp runs fine, osx it self ... that client is just one disaster sadly.

dull oxide
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intervention might be a 100% full desych back to menu

somber zealot
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bug triage must be prioritizing more complicated internal problems over critical usability defects. Things like the cursor image or the escape key, presumably aren't interfering with testing other systems... i.e. it's very much a development build and not a "beta" intended for public testing... as if they were behind schedule and resolved to release whatever they had, even if it's virtually unusable.

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I'm wondering if M1 has upended things, or if they're considering the viability of combining the iOS effort, considering that Xcode has a "actually, be a Mac App" checkbox for iOS projects

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But GGG are phantasms, with volitions inscrutable, so I shouldn't speculate as much.

proud igloo
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Indeed.

proud igloo
dull oxide
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccfO1FU428c im sure this won't work with my mac

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final ginkgo
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are there any trade macros available for mac os without using wine?

dawn light
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Hi, I'm new to POE (since I downloaded it today), and this is all I see on my screen every time I start the game. I am still at the very beginning. I have seen in earlier discussions that other people also have this problem but I haven't seen a solution yet. I am on Macbook Pro, I have Catalina 10.15 and I have the rest of my specs above the recommended. I really want to try the game out cause I really love Diablo like games. Any help is appreciated.

dull oxide
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now thats the same blur mac players suffer from twilight strand to act 1 to maps at least some maps

valid heath
dawn light
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thanks for reaching out then

vocal kiln
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is there any Path of Building for Mac?

vocal kiln
proud igloo
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I believe there might be some trouble with the current attempts at a portable PoB after the recent revamps of how upstream PoB launches.

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Haven't tried myself as I've misplaced my Big Sur HDD ๐Ÿ˜„

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Label your disks, people ^_^

unborn whale
silver osprey
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But just wait and see ๐Ÿ™‚

proud igloo
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What you're seeing is part of one of the renderpasses (bloom, whatever) that normally is composited with the rest of the targets that make up the regular game view. Something's fucky with how the Vulkan renderer maps onto your hardware and Metal. I don't recall if reports on it has been made and whether there's been any response on it.

somber zealot
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Anybody know if they're using MoltenVK or something?

proud igloo
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@somber zealot Fairly certain it's the case, considering that the game assets are identical to the PC release.

silver osprey
dawn light
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what's boot camp?

silver osprey
frosty pagoda
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PoE runs fine on BootCamp for me. The Mac gets unusually hot and the fan spins up. But this is normal for certain "MacBookPro "s as soon as they are allowed to perform :-). And BootCamp is really easy to set up ๐Ÿ˜„

dawn light
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alright cool I'll see what i can do @frosty pagoda

signal cloak
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is fps a problem when using bootcamp for poe?

proud igloo
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It's regular Windows on the hardware that your Mac happens to have, not sure if the driver situation is good but it's about the same as a PC with the same specs.

proud igloo
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Upcoming 3.13.2 patch notes preview has this among other notes:

Owners of M1 Macs can now play Path of Exile through Rosetta, with minimal impact on performance. A native version will be available in a future update.

proper zenith
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Wonder if this patch will have much of an effect on non-m1 macs

valid heath
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Various renderer systems have been made roughly 15-20% faster, which doesn't necessarily translate to a performance improvement for all users but anecdotally it seems like it's around 5% faster on average for us.

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  • Texture Streaming improvements
minor marlin
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Heck ye I can chuck my windows laptop now

uncut knoll
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where i can download mac client?

proud igloo
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@uncut knoll The beta installer is since a while available at https://www.pathofexile.com/download
It is also available on Steam. If you're on an Apple Silicon-based Mac (M1, etc.) these are still Intel-based executables and will run translated via Rosetta 2.

little fiber
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Can anyone give me an idea of how POE runs on a Macbook Pro?
Or is it better to bootcamp it instead of run it on native?

valid heath
little fiber
unborn copper
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it is somewhat good enough

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damn i cannot make out a sentence

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you'll be able to play poe just fine

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but you might have lower fps for certain things nonetheless

valid heath
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I would say that Minimal spec to play PoE atm

little fiber
unborn copper
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i play poe on potato pc pretty much

little fiber
unborn copper
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1080p is doable unless it is conquerors influ with packs and lots of density, harbingers or 100% delirious

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downgrading to 720p the game is infinitely smoother on my end

little fiber
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I am happy to play on potato settings - I just want to play

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Havent played in a couple yars

valid heath
unborn copper
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well you'll have a great experience i guess

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outside of the game learning curve

valid heath
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Good you have dGPU that will help a lot

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but Mac are not knows for good cooling system so

unborn copper
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good cpu will help a ton on bigger maps too

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true

little fiber
unborn copper
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running a pentium dual core and a rx 460 2 GB, man i got pleased how well the game runs on this potato

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but then there are things that don't make sense either but welp

little fiber
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Haha nice -- havent seen a dual core in eons

unborn copper
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it's like 4 years old i think

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struggles with harbingers but that's like a common thing, it's so badly coded

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outside of this, 100% delirious is the worse it gets

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20 fps average in fight, some highs at 50

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everything low, no sounds and 720p on vulkan

vague current
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for me boot camp runs the game just fine but in OSX it crashes within 10 seconds of loading into oriath every time i try

proud igloo
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Assuming drivers in Boot camp land are better than they were last I touched it in the dark ages, Windows is probably the superior place to play if you can spare the space and effort for the dual boot.

marble stone
proud igloo
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Ah yes, if only people could code less badly.

GGG devs are gosh-darn wizards at making something so dense and dynamic as PoE run so well on such a variety of situations.

unborn copper
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harbinger is poor density, there are more often situations with multiple times density of harbingers and no lag

marble stone
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Harbinger in valdos is easily 700-800 mobs densely packed what other situation has multiple times that

proud igloo
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It has both a lot of overlapping auras and a lot of overlapping blended visuals.

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And unlike whatever super-juiced content particular peeps may be running, Valdo harbies are probably quite commonly encountered among regular players as well.

unborn copper
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there is 100 mobs at best because there is something called you kill mobs and not watch them

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moreover harbingers is a lag fest the second you proc them, so no mob at all whatsoever

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just the visuals overlapping and poor optimisation into it

proud igloo
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For the name of all that is unholy, just stop it with the "poor optimization" "badly coded" talk. Take it to whatever echo chambers you normally frequent because it has no place in civilized spaces.

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You know nothing about actually making a game and such gamer rhetoric serves no purpose but to sound smart and punch down on developers.

unborn copper
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? u sure u good bud ?

valid heath
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I just wish I could reEnable Texture streaming from lunch of 3.13 as that worked great for me and made zones load in seconds

proud igloo
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I'm looking forward to 3.13.2's improvements, hopefully they can resolve the critical problem that was found.

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The tech patch in September and the texture streaming patch early this league put in a ton of fundamental work for better asset streaming.

proper zenith
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Interested to hear how it runs on m1, i'm considering getting a new MBP

unborn whale
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doesnt look like its patched on steam yet

unborn whale
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patching on steam now... @proper zenith

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@proper zenith i'm in a 30 person zoom session, chrome, safari all open.. settings are on defaults (which looks like a mixture of low to high) .. running around the coast (newbie area) i'm getting 118-120fps, i was playing windowed mode using a belkin dock hooked up to a 3440x1440 monitor using about 1/3 the screen realestate

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m1 macbook pro 16gb / 1tb

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keep in mind, this is the newbie area and i dont have any skillgems etc i didnt play this league so i cant test a high-effect scenario... also, i dont see any way to run fullscreen or set a resolution in-game

proud igloo
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Fullscreen I believe should be with the usual keys/button to maximize a program by platform conventions. Resolution is native but there's a slider for resolution scaling for when you want to render internally at a lower res.

proper zenith
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Damn that sounds good, yea there should be a "dynamic resolution" slider or something, also you cant really play in fullscreen without rebinding ESC

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Curious to see how endgame and mapping is for others, and yea all g i dont expect you to level a whole character just to test it lol. i imagine its a lot better judging by how much better twilight strand is (with other programs open even) than on my 2015 mbp ๐Ÿ˜›

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Tyvm for checking it out, helps a lot ๐Ÿ‘

unborn whale
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ok zooms over, let me try 3440x1440 ;p

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cranked up some settings, fullscreen 3440x1440 not doing anything 80fps

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looks like the "resolution factor" is the big culprit on performance vs visual quality... it defaults to off, and i have some jagged edges but 120fps.. if i turn it on, and crank it up, 80fps no jaggeds

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(again, this is 3440x1440......)

proud igloo
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I don't remember which way the slider goes, but it renders the game 3D internally at a fraction of the full resolution similar to how you have dynamic resolution on PC to sustain framerate when things end up heavy, while UI is kept crisp.

unborn whale
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i think the take home is that it easily runs well enough to play, assuming it all doesnt fall apart when you're in maps with a million effects... i didnt notice drops in areas with some basic fire and explosions

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makes me sad that dota doesnt run better, tbh lol

chilly anvil
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80 fps, on a laptop using integrated graphics to drive a ~4K display, is crazypants. I would never have expected it to run that well

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Oh, and for the cherry on top... the game is still running under emulation

unborn whale
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Yea, the m1s really are a game changer.. I've tried to explain to people how different it is.. battery lasting so long.. So little heat generation... reasonable gfx performance...

proper zenith
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Wow yeah thats really impressive, tho ofc im used to getting a nice stable 15 fps just sitting in my hideout lol

valid heath
proper zenith
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Im getting a lot of invisible textures, map device not loading, etc, im guessing thats from the shader cache or whatever being cleared?

valid heath
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Funny enough it didnt clear my Vulkan Shader Cache on windows ;o

proud igloo
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@valid heath It shouldn't remove everything, patch notes says:

Added automation to remove old minimap and shader data. This process occurs during the Grinding Gear Games logo video upon launch and may take some time. Old minimap and shader data will typically be cleared once per league in the future.

valid heath
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?

proud igloo
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Just the occasional culling every now and then when GGG feels it's time.

valid heath
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if you say so

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i assumed OLD means everything before any tech/engine patch

proud igloo
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Depends a bit on what they consider old. For shaders it caches all the resulting shaders from material combinations and when a combination goes out of use due to changes in the materials or renderer, the old shaders still linger and make file lookup slow.

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Similarly there's a lot of cached minimap tiles that can build up over time, but that I don't know the format of so I can't elaborate more.

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"once per league" sounds like a good time to purge old stuff as that's typically when big changes happen.

valid heath
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well it looked before like any drived update would invalidate old shaders anyway

valid heath
proud igloo
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There's two types of shader caches, one for the shader bytecode which is device/driver independent, and program/pipeline binary caches, which are super tied to the driver.

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The cost with the former is the game having to sift around the materials and glue little text fragments together, while for the latter it's the result of the GPU driver compiling the former into whatever the GPU actually wants.

dull oxide
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so i can see now i blurred maps at the cost of desynch in the middle of blight maps making it impossible to complete at the start

minor marlin
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Working good for me on M1 wooo

proper zenith
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@minor marlin are you on a laptop? How's it running

minor marlin
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Yeah I'm on a m1 mba 8 core cpu and gpu and 16 gigs.

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Runs pretty well, need to check the framerate and thermals once. Yeah gets a bit hot.

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Only thing I've noticed so far is the map edges do not render at the start but when I step on the tiles they render pretty fast. LMK if you need more info

proper zenith
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Dope! Have you ran much endgame map stuff? Also what settings/resolution are you on

minor marlin
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The latest map I ran was around a t10 I think

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Playing on. default settings, can give an ini screenshot if needed

proper zenith
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Thats awesome, dont worry about a screenshot you're good

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V exciting, i was planning on getting the next release mb pro so its great to hear that they're actually capable of running this game lol

minor marlin
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Yeah! Still keeping an eye on thermals tho, tends to heat up + aluminium body as well so you can feel the laptop heating

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But I might tinker with the settings and check it out

proper zenith
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Yea the heat is one of my worries, although i heard they were trying to develop a better heat transfer system or something inside so hopefully its not a huge thing

minor marlin
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Plus if you're getting a mb pro I think you should be good

proper zenith
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Ya heres hoping lol. Ty btw big help

minor marlin
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np

hallow crypt
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Iโ€™m on m1 mbp 16gb unified. Only thing I do differently than on Pc is wait a few seconds on entering a new area. Nearly got got by some invisible (see: not rendered out) enemies before changing my behavior. Into red maps, havenโ€™t tested delirium at all yet. Good to have for on the go but if Iโ€™m home, probably sticking it out with the Pc

unreal garnet
mighty brook
minor marlin
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@mighty brook I believe currently running on Rosetta, they're working on a native version according to patch notes

proud igloo
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As rubberduck says, a native version is WIP as that is not as "easy".

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It's going to be interesting to see how they are going to approach Steam, as last I heard from someone versed in macOS development, the platform gets a bit cranky when a launching program (in this case Steam) runs emulated.

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(in this case Firefox, where the new fat build updated from a previously x86_64 Firefox would keep running emulated until freshly started from the OS)

proud igloo
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It's a known issue, I believe you can rebind it to some other key to keep using the in-game functionality it has.

valid heath
minor marlin
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Thanks

proper zenith
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๐Ÿ™‚ cheers

valid heath
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I am not creator of it and I am just sharing so all credit goes to the Thread OC

proper zenith
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Oh i know lol ty for posting it tho i was just gonna look to see if it was updated

stable aurora
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is there a way to use poedb on mac?

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oh sry...

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the whole thread is about it ๐Ÿ˜„

left tusk
fast matrix
proper zenith
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Tyvm i'd be completely lost without this, it's awesome lol

stable aurora
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sry can someone explain me what is different on this version to the previous one?

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i played poe for years without pob on xbox and mac and this is all new for me ๐Ÿ˜„ a whole new game tbh

proper zenith
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Its just an update of PoB for all the skill tree/item/gem changes for the new league

valid prairie
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How do I run PoE on a mac?
I have a Macbook pro with M1 processor

minor marlin
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I'm running it via steam there's a link somewhere on the POE website for the dmg download I believe

proud igloo
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You can either download it via Steam or by downloading the Standalone installer from the website, but I don't know if that's fully cleansed of silly instructions yet.

valid prairie
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The standalone doesn't work for me

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ill try steam

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ty

proud igloo
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It will in either case run emulated with Rosetta 2 until they make a native Apple Silicon build of it.

valid prairie
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Good to know, ty

forest burrow
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server rip?

proud igloo
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Everything should be running smoothly now, as per Chris post.

elder mango
elder mango
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oof im not getting the notes

stable aurora
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hey guys

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im having trouble downloading the game...

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is there a link for a mac client?

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the "download now" button on the website doesnt work

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oh the pins!

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how is your experience so far guys, is it playable on mac?

minor marlin
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Yeah playable on M1 MBA 16 gigs

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pretty good

proud igloo
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@outer ingot At what stage, running the patcher, starting the game client, in-game?

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Also, what kind of Mac hardware do you have?

proud igloo
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A bit short on video memory, but shouldn't be too shoddy. Not sure if the error reports you submit will reach GGG, but probably send those.
Might help to make a bug report as well.

keen ingot
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are there any videos of the m1 doing actual content?

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i had a quick google and all i can find is people running around a1

sweet jungle
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Hey guys

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Anyone playing on MacBook Air

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Keen to hear thoughts.

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And I do know mac isn't for gaming and bla bla bla.

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and why there is no MACOS?

proud igloo
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It's also available on Steam.

sweet jungle
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but I would prefer to have a client directly from official source rather than third party.

proud igloo
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Oh, might have to be logged into the website for it I guess.

sweet jungle
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but seems like its not possible even tho the game is officially made for macos.

proud igloo
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The client is still a bit experimental/beta so they may not want to link it directly, implying it's fully featured.

proud igloo
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There's resources in the pins here too, I believe.

sweet jungle
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how about my specs? any idea/

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yeah you were right I have to be logged in to see the options.

proud igloo
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Probably going to run a bit bleh, but depends on your demands and tolerances.

sweet jungle
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I mean for sure not a high resolution and etc ๐Ÿ˜„

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I cleary understand that.

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If it would perform then its ok

fast matrix
sweet jungle
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Thanks - I have downloaded already.

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But idk when I first played on my mac (on win10 via bootcamp) it was much much better performance. But now on macos I am even thinking of deleting this game ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

stable aurora
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is it easy to explain how to update POB on myself on Mac? I am a bit lost but i need new Gems ๐Ÿ˜„

fast matrix
sweet jungle
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Guys If I will get win10 through bootcamp and install poe on win10 - will it get better performance?

proud igloo
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Depends a bit on how the Windows drivers for the onboard GPU is in Bootcamp, but probably.

sweet jungle
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ok

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ty

wicked snow
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i guess it will get performance boost because on linux with same machine(hackintosh) it is performing better than windows

silver osprey
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I'm using GeForce Now to play POE and it works brilliantly.
Free version is an hour per session but fine for now.

Sick and tired of waiting for a fix

proud igloo
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When the PoE urges creep up, everything's fair game ๐Ÿ˜„

valid heath
proud igloo
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On performance, I actually ran a map on my Hackintosh today, surprisingly smooth.

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i7 8700K, AMD Radeon RX 5700XT, lousy HP Midline 2TB spinning rust HDD; sustained 1920x1200 @ 60 FPS without any hiccups in an alch-n-go:d white map running BF/BB.

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Primary annoyances was things I'm used to from my Windows machine like not being able to bind the key left of 1 to Flame Dash; not having my usual filter copied over, and the even-smaller-than-Windows mouse cursor that made it incredibly easy to lose it in the explosions.

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(on Windows I run YoloMouse to replace it with a humongous XOR-coloured arrow as stock cursor is hard to follow)

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The muscle memory pressing of Esc also bit me a few times but I could complete the map without deaths at least ๐Ÿ˜„

valid heath
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Well atm I am struggling with performance on my 7700k @4.7 with RTX 2070S and M2 SSD, as influence packs spawning pin my CPU to 100% for a sec W10 ofc

mental token
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For anyone on an old MacbookPro who was having the PoE installer crash due to not being compatible, the incompatible code was stripped out to make the game work on the new chipset M1s, it would seem, and now I can install PoE on my 2012 MBP! Downloading the 30GB install files right now. I'll report back on performance. Yes, it's a 2012 model, but it's the 2.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 with 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 and NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1 GB gfx card. It used to run wineskin PoE just fine before that project was scrapped. Again, I'll report back.

proud igloo
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@mental token With the standalone installer or via Steam? Nice to hear that they all seem good now if so.

mental token
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the standalone that bernhardfritz linked above

mental token
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Reporting back! So I just played through killing Hillock, so not anything too taxing graphically. It was very smooth. I don't remember the terminal command to show FPS, but this was better than wineskin ever was. That said, there was a lot of visible draw-in of terrain and creatures (they show up as big sold color blocks for a few seconds, and then the textures appear on them). Lioneye's watch was very bad at first, but it all calmed down after a few seconds. I think for casual play this is going to be very viable on my ancient rig ๐Ÿ™‚

valid heath
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F1

mental token
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Thanks!

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Okay, so 17 FPS in lioneye's watch and 25 FPS (peaked at 27) playing along the shore. Characters on screen didn't seem to affect FPS at all, but there were dips when the water loaded in. I also died instantly starting a trial before any of the enemies appeared, though there was no FPS dip so ???

valid heath
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Have you turned down everything 2 Low ?

mental token
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No, this was all defaults.

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I didn't touch the options

mental token
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Turning down the settings from default doesnโ€™t seem to have changed anything.

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Performance-wise, I mean. The game looks a lot worse.

valid heath
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Well that would mean you are CPU limited more than GPU limited, as for invisible mobs your PC just didnt compile shaders on time so next time you see those mobs they should be there.

proud igloo
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I'm not certain that it's just material loading and compilation that's a bottleneck for fully missing assets, could be the actual fixed/skinned mesh that's not resident yet either. I'm sure GGG knows ๐Ÿ™‚

chilly anvil
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Dumb question: did that machine come with an SSD, or have you installed one? Performance on machines with mechanical hard drives has always been poor

mental token
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I do not have an ssd on that machine. Standard internal hard drive.

chilly anvil
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That'd explain your issues, then.

valid heath
round hazel
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Will poe go ok on macbook air m1?

valid heath
round hazel
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ะžะบ

minor marlin
round hazel
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ะžะบ

valid heath
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One thing with Macbook air M1 if you are brave enough and dont care about warranty you could install thermal pads coming of CPU to bottom aluminium panel.

silver osprey
round mesa
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Just noticed this channel existed. Is there an apple version of PoE?

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Or are you guys using a portal

proud igloo
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@round mesa Yep.

round mesa
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Yep to the portal thing?

proud igloo
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Nah.

round mesa
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Or to the apple version?

proud igloo
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There's an experimental version for macOS since late 2020, running on the PC realms and updating at the same pace as the Windows version does.

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It's available through either Steam or a Standalone installer, much like on Windows.

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It runs on both x86_64-based machines and Apple Silicon (M1) via Rosetta 2 translation.

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There's some info in the channel pins.

round mesa
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Nice! Is it optimized? Or do I need high specs to run smooth?

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Ok

proud igloo
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Many Macs tend to be a bit underspecced, especially laptops, but it runs the Vulkan renderer on top of Apple's Metal.

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As for performance compared to running Windows on the same hardware via Bootcamp, not really sure if there's much data on that.

round mesa
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Ok

proud igloo
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I'd say that if you had a choice in what kind of machine to play PoE on, a Mac would probably not be my first choice; but if all you have is a Mac it's way better than nothing ๐Ÿ˜„

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For nothing else, the relative maturity of the client from being newer and less tested in the smaller playerbase.

proper zenith
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Just noticed that hitting esc doesn't exit fullscreen mode anymore, i assume that was hidden in this patch

stable aurora
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guys how do you update the client on mac?

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im completely new to the game

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im confused, is there an update option somewhere?

proud igloo
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The standalone client auto-updates when starting. Steam updates like Steam normally does.

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You cannot get into the client without it having updated itself, it's fully automagic.

stable aurora
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im tryna login but it says to update and relog

proud igloo
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What version does it say it is in the lower right corner?

stable aurora
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3.14.oc

proud igloo
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Current version should be 3.14.1, so that's odd.

stable aurora
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hmmmm

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should i just uninstall and reinstall the game

proud igloo
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Gah, I don't have any Mac available currently to check anything, but it's possible that the patch has not been made available if your updater is working as it should.

stable aurora
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hmmm imma try to find a link to download the game again

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i prolly fked up something

proud igloo
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If you have a Client.txt file, does it mention version 3.14.1.1 anywhere?

stable aurora
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hmm idk, i deleted the game haha

proud igloo
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There's two places where your PoE installation goes, the initial launcher in /Applications and the bulk of the game in ~/Library/Application Support/Path of Exile.

stable aurora
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im downloading agian

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it seems like its doing its job well so far

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lets hope this fixes it

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IT WORKED!

dull oxide
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the servers's internet is horrible

proud igloo
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Booted my "Mac" with onboard Coffee Lake Intel instead of the AMD card. Getting highs of 18 FPS in my hideout at 4k res, scaling doesn't help ๐Ÿ˜„

carmine shell
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where chat log located on mac?

proud igloo
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It may be somewhere under ~/Library/Application Support/Path of Exile.

proud igloo
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(had to boot the "mac" again, had just turned it off ๐Ÿ˜„ )

feral ice
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is there any way to manually change the resolution poe runs on through the game's settings?

proud igloo
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The Dynamic Resolution slider in Options -> Graphics adjusts how much smaller the internal render resolution is vs. your native resolution.

feral ice
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ah ok that works, would be nice to have something like the windows drop-down menu for resolutions.

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thanks for the help nonetheless

proud igloo
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I believe the external resolution is restricted by what the display is configured as by the OS, but I guess you mean that it'd be a bit more obvious what the actual 3D resolution becomes?

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I hear they take feedback on the forums ๐Ÿ™‚

feral ice
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I saw a thread discussing the resolution drop down menu possibility on the forums, so fingers crossed the devs consider it at some point

mint crow
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I saw in the Forum that there are/were a few people having the issue that ingame areas like caves and tunnel are completely black when playing on mac

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anyone else having this issue?

proud igloo
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The patch notes preview for the upcoming 3.14.1c patch has this Mac-specific improvement:

Increased the size of the in-game cursor.

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Needed a magnifying glass in 4K before, that's for sure ๐Ÿ˜„

spiral python
# mint crow anyone else having this issue?

Since latest patch, my M1 MBA went from 40-55 fps on low settings to 15-20. Most of the textures are just fucked. Large squares of terrain are black, or flickering at all times. None of the settings seems to rectify it.

dull oxide
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@proud igloo is it normally 3 of 1 kind of spectre or 3 of any mix of spectre?

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like 2 range and 1 melee/ 2 melee and 1 ranged/ 1 buffer and 1 of melee and 1 of ranged /2buffers and 1 of melee or ranged?

proud igloo
dull oxide
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but you play the game right?

proud igloo
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I run other people's builds and write tools ๐Ÿ˜›

dull oxide
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like you test them in pob?

proud igloo
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I play them in-game and work on a variety of tools, including PoB.

dull oxide
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so can you try my build?

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and kinda like tweak it?

stable aurora
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guys do you have any guide recommendations for graphic settings on mac??

valid heath
stable aurora
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hmmmm

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let me see

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should i just copy paste?

valid heath
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Yeah

stable aurora
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MacBook pro 15 inch, 2016
Processor 2.6 GHz Quad-core Intel core i7
Memory 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3
Graphics Intel HD Graphics 530 1536 MB

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thats what it says

valid heath
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So as low as you can go then

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Your mac has no Dedicated GPU

stable aurora
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Damn then i cant play Sadge

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everything's low but i have 15 fps

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rip

valid heath
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Try lowering the resolution as well

stable aurora
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it's at the lowest

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:c

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crazy how i can play wow with good graphic settings

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but not PoE at all

valid heath
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WoW is 15year old game

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with not much upgrade in graphics

stable aurora
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not the most recent one with updated graphics

valid heath
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over the years to its easy 2 run

stable aurora
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isnt PoE old too ?

valid heath
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PoE gets engine updates, graphics updates higher quality textures and assets almost every new League

stable aurora
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is there anything i can do besides "getting a good pc"

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i have 0 knowledge in PCs so idk what to do

valid heath
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You could try checking for some external GPU via Thunderbolt but make sure that Mac supports it first

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But yeah Games need hardware 2 run

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no software magic can jump over that even Apple

stable aurora
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ofc

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ok

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thanks

valid heath
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Oh and make sure your are not overheating as that tanks performance to zero

proud igloo
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Story seems to reflect the perf of my Hackintosh which currently only has integrated UHD Graphics 630. It's rofltastic and needs everything in potatovision to have like 20 fps.

proper zenith
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I have both dynamic culling and dynamic resolution both checked, with the resolution slider all the way to the left

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Best i can get is 30 fps with minimal action on screen, average about 20 actually running maps, and around 10 when insane shit like harbingers or conqueror mobs spawn

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Almost the same specs as you, slightly worse CPU

dull oxide
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@proud igloo have i told you i beaten elder before?

dull oxide
dull oxide
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i have the chest now

dull oxide
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@proud igloo the private league is doing perfect

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well at least at the start of act 5 to act 8 has been good with sustainibility and getting chaos

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and full res cap

dull oxide
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anyone has trouble with the very very long loading screens?

proud igloo
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Not more than usual, it's been worse on Windows for a league or two for me.

dull oxide
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well i cna't play on the native mac with very long screens but i been able to play with geforce with the only trade off being not longer able to trade

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althought i did make some tradings before i wasn't able to play anymore

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also i finally found the answer to that 1 time i asked what happened to all the templars in act 5 after beating innocence and instead of being reanimated with horns instead they all now changed their belief for kitava "Under the influence of Kitava, Templars in Oriath are turned into to mad and cultist versions."

finite sleet
lapis thistle
graceful basin
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how do i fix textures constant flickering

thorn meadow
#

I am looking forward to a new mac mini with the M1X/M2 with more GPU cores. And esp. when PoE is built native for M1. That will be sooooo sweet. ๐Ÿ™‚

odd surge
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Does poe just crash randomly for people when they are in a party in the middle of an ultimatium?

magic summit
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not sure if you re asking a question or stating a fact @odd surge

proud igloo
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Party play in general is taxing on any computer or OS, ultimatums even more so.

split hull
#

how do i find other people to play with im in act 6

proud igloo
lyric coyote
#

is it possible to put up items on poe.trade on macos?

proud igloo
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In a way other than how the premium stash tabs made public are auto-listed?

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I guess that you're referring to how you can have tools manage indexed forum threads or something? No idea if any of those work on the platform.

bold plover
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u can manually post on the forums

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if acquisition or w/e doesnt work on mac

lime zephyr
#

Hey guys, I've just started playing on my mac m1, can anyone tell me where is the trade market button? I used to play on ps4 before and there was a Trade Market board at the first waypoint but I'm not finding it on mac version and also not on menu either!

proud igloo
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When you find an item you want, you copy a pre-filled whisper message from the trade site and paste it into the chat window of the game client, asking a player if you may buy their thing.
If they invite you to a party, you may teleport over to their hideout, they open a trade, you put in the currency and verify that the item is the one you want, and accept, responding "ty" if you're polite ๐Ÿ™‚

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You may list items for trade if you have premium stash tabs made public, setting prices by rightclicking on items in the tabs, or setting a common price for the whole tab.
There's also a forum for manual listings that drives the trade site if you don't have the tabs.

lime zephyr
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@proud igloo Thank you so much for the clarification. Looks like trading is a bit more complex on pc/mac version than console, will take some getting used to!

stable aurora
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Hey guys, does anybody know if PoE runs well on M1 chip (MB air 2020)? Is the game playable?

proud igloo
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There has been some experiences shared in the past I think, channel search might get you something.

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It should be able to launch these days at least after the instruction set fixes.

left tusk
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It works, as in it boots, campaign is survivable (until nerf league lmao) but mapping + is not great performance wise, even bootcamp was better for me, and unrivalled on PC unfortunately

chilly anvil
left tusk
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I have an M1, and a 2019 MBP.

stable aurora
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@stable aurora I've been running it on my MBP 16BG M1 and have had no issues. The fan doesn't even come on after hours of play. Everything is smooth except for a bit of stuttering when entering a new area.

lime zephyr
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I've been playing on my MBP 8GB M1 for last 2 weeks and it's running smooth like butter, for full disclosure I've set all the possible settings in graphic section to low or medium.

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Also got myself a wired mouse to make sure wireless mouse do not screw me over on a intense fight lol

lime zephyr
proud igloo
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I wonder if they ever could, would be quite some work with MS needed to run on the Apple Silicon flavour of ARM64.

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Linux peeps had to do a fair bit of wrangling and reverse engineering to get going on the M1.

chilly anvil
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In a lot of ways, virtualizing it is the better solution anyway ๐Ÿ™‚

proud igloo
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Yeah, that's the thing, a VM has nice and comfy isolation from the horrors of bring-up and drivers.

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Not getting much in the way of graphics virtualized, of course.

chilly anvil
proud igloo
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That's neat, so used to relative clownware like VirtualBox whose 2D and 3D bits are still extremely wobbly.

chilly anvil
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ARM Windows has x86 emulation. Parallels on M1 will run either edition of Windows

modern void
#

Wonder if apple gonna update boot camp on M1 macs

river drum
solar kayak
#

has anyone successfully run poe on an m1 macbook pro?

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i tried running it but got crazy cpu lag, was basically unplayable no matter how low settings i set

proud igloo
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Supposedly playable, if you squint at channel history.

solar kayak
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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i was hoping to play on league launch but ill just wait for my 5950x to get here next week and play pc

normal hearth
#

Macbook air 2017 user here, does anyone think I could manage to run poe on it? Or has anyone?

proud igloo
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In general, the integrated GPU and limited thermal capacity of Airs tends to be a bit sub-par for PoE. It might run, but probably not well.

chilly anvil
minor marlin
lone brook
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yo any of you macos players use plugins to enhance poe gameplay?

minor marlin
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Nah nothing for me

normal hearth
#

anyone find a way to play poe without buying a new computer

normal hearth
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arent the wait times really long?

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like a queue to get onto geforce

dull oxide
# valid heath Geforce Now

but you are restricted to play for 1 hour per play and it runs out quick so must be speedrunning a lot and will sometimes run out mid boss fights

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and depending on internet it will be hell or being lagged like being unplayable

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@proud igloo first place in day 1

lone brook
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mac os number one

minor marlin
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woo

dull oxide
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@proud igloo a little advice in the buggy and broken launcher of poe macOS after the installer ended Iโ€™m stuck at 100% and the launch button does not glow to mean is finished

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and it also stuck at 0.76 speed of ms and the 23.45/out of 23.45 gb

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and the browsers are stuck to a crawl so I have to use phone instead now

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so looking it up Iโ€™m getting steam exclusive problems but not the launcher from the website itself so Iโ€™m the only that I found this problem

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so I finally passed it but now Iโ€™m stuck with a windowed fullscreen stuck on the grinding gears moving in the middle and a black screen

proud igloo
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Sounds like your mac isn't curse-immune anymore ๐Ÿ˜‰

dull oxide
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well I gave up on it I been playing on GeForce exclusively but is also laggier cuz of internet and only at bedtime the connection becomes good and less laggy

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also the launcher is just like a copy paste of the broken steam version

proud igloo
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What do you mean? It's the same old patching infrastructure as the PC standalone.

atomic lantern
proud igloo
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Slowly but steadily. The next patch to PoB will introduce a fistful of gems, depending on how solid their implementation is.

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Oh. Helps if I read... no idea where pobfrontend is at.

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I should get around working on the macOS version if the real PoB some time, so many projects and so little time to make something releasable ๐Ÿ˜„

dull oxide
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Oh and the blur problem too

proud igloo
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Steam and Standalone has the exact same data files and game client version, across all PC platforms.

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The difference is in the patching and things like Steam being an x86_64 app, but until there's a native ARM64 version of PoE, that doesn't matter.

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They will run equally good (or bad).

dull oxide
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@proud igloo is it possible for you to get on help room 1 vc so i can show it to you?

dull oxide
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cuz you could know this thing

dull oxide
fast matrix
atomic lantern
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Thank you so much

lone brook
#

do you guys have a notifier or something?

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sometimes i dont check the. chatbox and people are messaging me for a item trade

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i was wondering if there is a plugin to get a sound message or something like that

marble stone
#

There are some add-ons that read the log file and notify you about that unsure which ones work on Mac tho as my MacBook air is a tad too old to try :D

lone brook
#

is poe overlay available for mac?

glossy echo
#

how have y'all be handling late game, the frames do be real bad for me (although probably just summoner problem)

glossy echo
#

yeah expedition explosions blowing up monsters, chests, and my fps me

fallen mica
#

my friend is trying to play on mac, and cant get past the first loading screen for twilight strand

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any idea for fix?

chilly anvil
#

What model is he trying to play on? Exact name as in ๐ŸŽ > About This Mac preferably

shrewd mango
#

Can I ask where to download mac client ?

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my country doesn't allow to download from steam

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(vietnam specifically)

proud igloo
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I believe there is a download link on the PoE website, you may have to log in for it to be visible.

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Just tested, the installer seems recent and patches just fine.

shrewd mango
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yeah the link still work, i'm downloading it thanks

lone brook
#

Receive phone notifications when you receive a whisper? Is there anything like this for the mac? would like to see my chat when I'm in the kitchen making a sandwich and someone whispers to buy but by the time I'm back they've already bought from someone else ๐Ÿ˜ข

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i know some windows solutions but dont know if there is any for mac?

serene mulch
#

If youโ€™re of a programming persuasion, itโ€™s not complex to do yourself - write a script to watch the client.txt, and send a push notification when it sees a whisper line

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Donโ€™t know about push notification gateways that have python APIs

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If anything the push notifications might be the more annoying part - have never had to set those up before

lone brook
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clien.txt?

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do you know the location of it? im going to try it