mac-os🍎

[glacial vault]

so who asks the questions? those who create content, builds and stream the games ? like those big names whosse guides everyone follows?

[lilac trail]

Typically a 3hr session all up. I liked the cinematics at the beginning and the game walkthrough 👍

The Q&A didn’t have any valuable content in it for me. I’ll go add up how much I’ve spent over the years. Maybe I get a free key.

[glacial vault]

so, is poe2 thrilling? even better than poe?

[lilac trail]

If you are starting out it will IMHO be better to play POE first. I say that because although it won't be a requirement to have played POE to play POE 2 but it will likely help because some systems will be in both games and there will be less of a learning curve. After EA has finished it isn't known when POE 2 will actually be released so if you only played POE 2 you would have an unknown length of time to wait for general release. If you had played POE you can go back to it while you wait. Ultimately though, it's up to the individual what they want to do.

I imagine tools such as PoB are going to be in major development to accommodate POE 2.0

[fossil dock]

Look like they kill stand-alone client

[glacial vault]

oh, i am not early adopter! after all i started POE only now - what 2 - 3 weeks ago? i am happy to play Poe for many more months, b4 contemplating poe2.

[lilac trail]

What do you mean - for POE or POE 2 EA ?

[fossil dock]

POE 2 EA

Interesting is it will run under wine or not...

[lilac trail]

The Windows Steam client will run under WINE. It does now. It will run in any of the 4 apps on the wiki. Performance is not as good as running the standalone through one of them but technically a Mac user can access EA if they have a Steam account and a key. I’m debating whether to defile my Macbook with Steam 🤔

[glacial vault]

why so opposed to Steam? i had not problems on Steam with other games.

twas only poe which had connection probs

[lilac trail]

@gordon - there is a standalone client for EA. It’s in the Path of Exile 2 Early Access FAQ !

[lilac trail]

I prefer the old fashion install on a computer. I can pretend I have more control that way. I don’t use any game management portal, such as GOG Galaxy. I have my preferences. Oh and a library of games when they came in boxes with printed manuals and cool artwork !

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981 - see under How to Redeem a Key and When will I be able to download the client …

[hybrid edge]

But are they releasing a Mac OS version for PoE2 on steam for EA or not? PoE1 has it.

Three hour and not a single mention. I’m debating buying the pack but I need confirmation.

[glacial vault]

from everything i have seen adn heard, the mac version of poe1 it nothing to write home about! then how would poe 2 alone be?

[hybrid edge]

Doesn’t matter. It didn’t need any setup and works fine on my laptop.

[lilac trail]

What works fine ?

The Mac steam client is crippled with multithreading disabled and a takes multiple attempts to login.
The Mac standalone client errors out every time an update is released and you need to implement a tedious workaround. On top of that the Mac client has an FPS cap of 60FPS. Then there are the graphics bugs.

GGG are unable to fix the issues, hence the wiki page with suggested alternatives. The alternative are all free except for Crossover. Multithreading is enabled, there is no FPS cap and game performance is generally better.

If you are running the Monterey OS than the Mac standalone does not have the issues and you are ok for now. The steam client still will have the issues mentioned, regardless of the OS version.

[hybrid edge]

I don’t have those issues. In fact I got zero issues. M1 Max. Sequoia

Also 60fps fine. I often limit to 60.

Maybe it’s an end game issue. Never made end game since I need controller or wasd and controller doesn’t tend to work on Wine so I can kiss couch coop bye :/

[lilac trail]

It’s not an end game issue. This all occurs before you even login. R U using Steam or standalone ?

PSA - the my-access/early-access link in the FAQ post does not work. There is a thread on Reddit with people stating they are well over the threshold (as am I) and the link says they need to buy a supporter pack to get access. Perhaps the link should not have been included yet since they also stated keys would be distributed in the next few days. Very confusing 🤪

I imagine the support inbox is overflowing ….

[hybrid edge]

Steam. As I said I don’t have any particular issues.

[glacial vault]

oh steam was fine for me, but the login issues? i am surprised u had none!

[lilac trail]

You do. Check your settings. Multithreading on the Mac steam client is disabled. It wasn’t before 3.25

[glacial vault]

it would take several tries before i could connect. you are so lucky

[unkempt onyx]

Unfortunately Path of Exile 2 will not be available on MacOS at the start of Early Access, but we’re keen to add support for this platform as soon as possible.

Anyone have a solution for this?

[proud igloo]

Ooh neat, you peeps got actual wording about it in the FAQ.

[unkempt onyx]

🙂

Any solution other than running a vm?

or buying a new computer lol

[proud igloo]

For PoE1, the community here seems to have decent success running the WIndows version of the game under lightweight translation systems like Kegworks, Portingkit, etc.
Those are way lighter than full-on virtual machines, which seldom have much in the way of graphics capabilities at all.

Can't say how PoE2 would fare under those.

[unkempt onyx]

Thanks g ill figure something out

Crossover seems to be the most likely tool to work for poe2 on macos

[somber oyster]

goodluck with fps

[lilac trail]

Look at the first pinned message regarding options using a Windows standalone client on a Mac

[lilac trail]

As opposed to ? The workarounds on the wiki get from 45-125 fps. Mac native clients can’t go above 55-60fps at best.

[somber oyster]

45-125 with crossover fixes with gptk patch?

[lilac trail]

I get 45fps using GPTK. Another user reported getting 125fps with Kegworks I think. Crossover 24.0.5 gets 45-55 fps at least. It will depend on the system specs of course. If you only have 8GB memory you’ll likely get around 30fps. That is still more than with the native clients.

[polar sable]

Ok, so I just started playing path of exile again, but it keeps randomly crashing?
what is going on...

[dense crystal]

ill be stealing my wife's pc then lmao

[dense crystal]

use kegworks

im playing on my m3pro with 120fps max graphical settings

its actually so so good

[glacial vault]

or portingkit thats jsut as good

[fossil dock]

how loud it when you play? I play on m3max and limit FPS to 60, because some times fps drops to 20-30....

[lilac trail]

It appears there will be a stand alone client. You can use Kegworks still in that case.

[violet cosmos]

Bros, PoE1 is still crashing on Mac, right? Does anyone have a workaround? 🙏

[fossil dock]

Wine/Crossover/any other translation

[lilac trail]

Look at the top pinned message. Lots of folk here are using one of those. 3 free ones and 1 solution you need to buy a license for. The Mac clients are effectively dead.

[subtle breach]

Made some tests with GPTK version 1.0. Stable fps 80-120. Full of animations screen 50-60 (with paladin microtranscations). Did not see less 50 fps. Macbook pro max M2.

[split latch]

why does my poe crash everytime i play it

[subtle breach]

try some workarounds attached to this channel. For now macos client is not working and not supported by ggg

[split latch]

wait this is apple oh eh wrong

i thought this was for windows

[lilac trail]

You can run Windows version of PoB via one of the other options too, if you use it.

[balmy laurel]

Is anyone intending to play poe2 EA via Windows client on Mac?

I want to make sure it works for people before I try to get organised for it

[lavish yacht]

hope you are doing well everyone. I had low fps while playing macos PoE on steam, and I decided to use Kegworks and run the Windows-based app from there. I followed all the steps but the game crashes before even starting. has anyone had a similar experience? and do you think using portingkit or GPTK would solve the issue/be a better solution?

[dense comet]

hey im new and i keep crashing 2 min after i log in

can someone help?

[balmy laurel]

Does it give an error message? Did you change the renderer in the config file? Crashing before starting is typical of having the wrong renderer.

Additionally I couldnt get the game to run with Portingkit but Kegworks works for me. It seems to be very system specific.

[balmy laurel]

What version are you running? Steam MacOS, standalone MacOS or Windows via KWS / PK / GPTK?

[dense comet]

steam macos

[lilac trail]

Could be 3 things 1. Wrong engine 2. Renderer not set 3. You missed the step of deleting the directory. For no.3 did you do step 12 ?

[lavish yacht]

OK looks like everything everything is good now. the production_config.ini file was empty at first; therefore, one needs to add [DISPLAY] before renderer_type=DirectX12. thanks for your replies @balmy laurel @lilac trail

everything seemed to be smooth but the quality was quite low. don't know how i can fix that.

[lavish yacht]

the trick that worked for me was to type /dnd immediately after i logged into my character (i don't even know if doing this is ok or not). however, i eventually switched to Windows client in macos due to low fps on steam macos.

[lilac trail]

What is the graphics resolution of your screen on the Mac set to ?

Does it match what is in the game settings ?

[lilac trail]

Yeap - step 13 of the Kegworks mentions the game will crash if the file is empty 😀 Glad it’s running. Now we can fix the resolution

[lavish yacht]

so by "quality being bad" i mean compared to steam macos it's bad. resolution matches that of my display. steam's resolution is much larger though; hence the better quality. i don't know if there is something specific that steam does for the game to have a better quality.

anyways, i would much rather have lower quality that lower fps. 😄

[lilac trail]

@reborn had the same issue with graphics quality. It apparently fixed itself after a restart of the app - portingkit in their case. You could either close kegworks and start it again or restart the mac and see if that clears it. Steam doesn’t do anything special.

If you still have steam installed grab the graphics settings there and compare them.

What resolution is your system capable of ?

[lilac trail]

The other thing you can do is create a virtual monitor and set the resolution to what you want on it. There is a pinned message on what the free software is and how to use it. You can set resolution that are higher than your native ones in the virtual monitor. The game then uses those

[dense comet]

alr thanks

[lilac trail]

That doesn’t apply to the windows based version and of course you can’t trade. That is if you can login to the steam version

[full temple]

im still locked out of my mac client wont connect ot anything

[lilac trail]

Use one of the alternate ways to run POE on a Mac which is in the first pinned message. The Mac clients are beyond broken

[opal valley]

Hey guys, I'm going to try to install a Windows Client today. I saw the pinned post, but is there any preference for you? Which one is more reliable or most used?

[full temple]

where do i find that

[lilac trail]

The first pinned message in this channel has a link to the wiki page that outlines the options and setup steps for each.

For those not technically minded Kegworks (KWS) and portingkit (PK) are the most GUI friendly. You can also use Crossover but that is not free. You can use these options to run Windows version of PoB too.

[full temple]

I would need it reposted i canst see anything up there

[lilac trail]

You can’t see any pinned messages ?

[full temple]

yeah i cant see it but i found ge force now

[lilac trail]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Path_of_Exile_on_Mac_using_Windows_Client

[lilac trail]

GFN should work. The problem with it is that you are limited to the amount of game time per tier. The free tier is the most restrictive. The most expensive tier provides more time.

Also GFN just announced that as of 2025 they will be limiting game time on the platform to 100 hrs per month.

You can sort of use APT through a clunky method on it. You can’t run PoB.

If none of these are an issue then you should be good as long as you have a decent internet connection.

[full temple]

i going to pay the montly till this client gets fix

[subtle breach]

I will, waiting for client ready to download. Will try GPTK

[chrome ravine]

This fixed my issue with a black screen too, put [Display] on the line above renderer_type=DirectX12

[hybrid edge]

I saw they removed the specs requirements on steam of PoE2. Does that mean that PoE2 won't have a mac release at all?
It was confirmed that it wouldn't have early access, but have they dropped macOS all together for actual release?

@lilac trail Are you gonna try PoE2 via wine when the EA launches? Could you give us heads up if it works before I pay for the supporter pack to join. Would appreciate it.

[hybrid edge]

Also what is PoB?

[proud igloo]

The EA FAQ goes like this:

Unfortunately Path of Exile 2 will not be available on MacOS at the start of Early Access, but we’re keen to add support for this platform as soon as possible.

[hybrid edge]

Ah ok

[proud igloo]

https://pathofbuilding.community/

[hybrid edge]

That's nice. Do you know if the release will use a wrapper around Wine or be native with either Metal or MoltenVK?

Hmm strange that PoB isn't just a webapp, I guess it integrates directly with the game somehow for some features.

[proud igloo]

Can't say anything about the release, the FAQ entry is the best you got thus far.

PoB is free-standing, but is built on awesomely crusty old technology that doesn't lend itself well to running on the web.

There's some people that have tried, but it's surprisingly tricky to port and maintain.

[hybrid edge]

I mean if it needs to integrate with the game by memory or reading logs or something I can understand that.

[hybrid edge]

That's a shame. Was excited. Any way we can get feedback from the devs about the macOS client or what's planned?

[proud igloo]

The only integration PoB has is downloading account characters from the website and some limited functionality to look up items and timeless jewels on the trade site.

[proud igloo]

Don't know, wherever people normally interact.

[hybrid edge]

Oh, could easily be replaced by a web app if it doesn't integrate with running processes or local fs.

[hybrid edge]

Aight, understood, heh.

[proud igloo]

The crux with PoB is that it's predominantly written in Lua on LuaJIT, running on a custom graphics engine. It has a surprising amount of code and capabilities and the game loop and UI model it has doesn't necessarily map super well to the web.

If one were to remake it on the web, they'd have to either reimplement all the Lua logic with warts and all; or try to make Lua and the UI run hosted in a browser.

There's some people that have tried over the years with various results.

[hybrid edge]

I am guessing the by gameplay loop, it runs simulation and that's the part you're saying would be complicated to run?

Could def rewrite UI components in web and run the LUA in some webasm. That way only the UI would be rewritten. Anyway was just curious what PoB was. 🙂

[proud igloo]

The devil is in the details 😄

On macOS, there's a third party runtime powering the mac-native bundling of PoB and also the ability to run it using the usual Wine-based environments.

[lilac trail]

I’ll be playing POE2 via one of the WINE based methods. Others will also. Unless there is something weird in the client I expect it to work. If not then the developers will need to investigate and provide a fix. I’ll post once I have tested them all. It will be a few days after launch. GGG rudely picked a date on which I am out of town 🤣

In regards to an access key - if you have spent $480US over the lifetime of your account you get a free key. If not then you can buy one for $30.

Just to add to play option possibilities - Geforce Now (GFN) is another option to play both POE and probably POE2.

I don’t use it because you can’t integrate other third party tools with it and your play time is limited on the free tier. Plus other tiers aren’t free. You are paying an extra fee per month for something you can play for free with unlimited hours otherwise.

[proud igloo]

Are there any decent options for external storage on the Mac Minis? Considering that I can barely fit a PoE1 or two on my M1, I have a feeling I'd have to go for something external.

Thunderbolt + NVMe enclosure, or is that extortionate? Something DRAM-less over USB-C? Tape recorder?

[subtle breach]

I hope client will be available some days before release. I will try to test and handle it for mac on M2 .

already bought support pack 480$.. but I have only macos laptop, so need to find way

[lilac trail]

Define "decent" - there are a lot of USB-C options at different price points. Not as many Thunderbolt+NVMe options.
Thunderbolt is of course a lot faster, but the SanDisk G-Professional G-drive series is pretty decent for a USB-C connection.

The Thunderbolt+NVMe options provide more expansion options. You'd need to get a NVMe to go with most of them, so then you'll need to find a NVMe that isn't going to be the r/w bottleneck. TB+NVMe usually require a seperate power source whereas the USB-C runs off your existing system. May or may not be an issue for you either way. One of the challenges with the TB+NVMe option is the storage capacity is limited. You can buy with more slots and start out with filling just 1 or 2 instead of filling them all I suppose but the pure USB-C external drives can go to 22TB for cheaper (but the trade off of course is throughput speed).

[lilac trail]

I don't have any experience with Thunderbolt+NVMe but there are 2 I've seen mentioned consistently when I've checked out external options. There are probably others. Here's some light reading. Your google-fu skills are probably better and you can find other options too.

RayCue (for M1/M2) - https://www.raycue.com/products/raycue-expandpro-7-in-1-usb-c-hub-stand-for-mac-mini?variant=44593377607836
OWC - https://ca.macsales.com/shop/external-storage#drive-type:ssd,drive-configuration:dual-bay-2-drive

For NVMe Samsung 990 Pro or 970 EVO Plus, Corsair MP600 Pro LPX or something similar

For USB-C take your pick from these - I have used both Samsung and LaCie over the years and never had an issue. Not the fastest but since it's primarily for data archives they are the most convenient
https://www.techradar.com/news/best-external-hard-drives-for-mac
https://www.macworld.com/article/668458/best-external-ssd-for-mac.html

I'd be curious to know how well POE (and POE 2.0) performs off an external drive (of either choice). It would give me a thinly veiled excuse to finally go get a TB+NVMe setup 🙂

[lilac trail]

According to what scant information there is the client will be released a few days prior to launch. GGG have done their best to communicate and set expectations but somehow there is still a lot of confusion, and confused people (including me). Players buying the EA supporter packs seem to be getting a key first, instead of those who have qualified for one via the lifetime purchase route (of which I am one) to add to the confusion. I would have thought it would be easiest to start with those who qualified already. I don't understand the point of providing a account check link that does not work for everyone ....

In the FAQ around EA they did say the client will be able for download. That means there will be a standalone client to use. Makes sense. According to Jonathan the split between Steam and Standalone was 50-50. No standalone means you'd be cutting off a lot of people from participating and that wouldn't make sense.

An actual native, working, Mac client, would have been fantastic, but in the absence of that we still have options, which include using GFN temporarily (which means no APT unless you want to twist yourself into a pretzel knots via an incredibly complex method once posted on reddit but then agin APT may not be ready for EA anyway).

[chrome ravine]

I installed poe with kegworks, but for some reason the max resolution i can set the game to is half of the resolution of my mac. Are there any fixes for this?

[chrome ravine]

Nvm, BetterDisplay fixed my issue 👍

[lilac trail]

Did you need to set resolution with BetterDisplay or did you set up a virtual monitor with BetterDisplay (which there is a pinned message for) ?

[chrome ravine]

I just set the resolution, after looking through the pinned comment and reddit post (albeit not very thoroughly) I wasn't able to figure out the virtual monitor.

[lilac trail]

Sounds good. A few people have reported needing to reset their system resolution.
You don’t need a virtual monitor unless you want to run the game at a specific resolution but not touch your primary setting or you want to run at a higher resolution than your monitor is capable of.

Which part of setting up the virtual monitor did you get stuck on ? Might need to make a quick video instead of a wall of words 😜

[chrome ravine]

I was confused about mirroring the virtual display to the primary display

[lilac trail]

Yeah the reddit post is assuming you don't have an additional monitor display I think. I retested with just the built-in display and the instructions work for that but not a multi-monitor display setup. I will see how to setup in a 3 monitor system with the external monitor as the main display or as the extended display. That is causing me some grief

[lethal osprey]

do i understand correctly? There will be no MAC-Client availabe?

[lilac trail]

Not for EA

[weary crow]

almost bought the early acces for POE2 then i notice its windows only....any early acces for mac or something special for the mac launch ?

[lilac trail]

A mac client may be developed but not for at least 6 months according to statements from GGG. I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
As long as there is a windows stand alone client you should be able to play EA on a Mac using one of the methods outlined on the wiki post - a link to which is provided in the pinned messages. All the options are free with the exception of Crossover, which requires a license.

Strictly speaking GFN may also be an option. It's not often mentioned here because you basically can't use 3rd party tools with it. Plus apart from the free tier - where play time is limited - it isn't free.

[glacial vault]

Folks running PortingKit version of PoE: new patch, means go back to the Pinned note on changing temp to exe file!

[lilac trail]

Same in Kegworks. At least it only takes a minute and you are up and running again !

[glacial vault]

looks like the server is restarting again!

[signal cape]

Hey guys, my game keeps crashing. I’m on steam on my MacBook. Any ideas?

[glacial vault]

yeah welcome to the party! i had that all the time until i changed over to Portingkit on mac and installed the windows client. things are a lot better. check the pinned msgs on this channel. there are detailed instructions on installing one of 4 options which help you use the windows client

[signal cape]

Why can’t they just make it work better for Mac on steam 💀

[glacial vault]

bruh, that discussion has been done to death in this channel1

[signal cape]

Well I don’t partake in this channel often, so, my bad.

[proud igloo]

Jon had an interview with Tri today, where Empy's notes mention GFN. I didn't listen to the section where it may have been answered so you probably want to verify it yourself. Edit: timestamp in link

https://x.com/empyriangaming/status/1861547344275128421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h69qVESTBS4&t=1h48m50s

[weary crow]

Can't find usb-c mouse with 12 button on the side like Redragon M908 .... what mouse is best for POE on Mac usb-c

[bright spade]

hello everyone, i'm new to PoE, played several hours on windows, now tried to launch on mac m1 - game starts, logs in, i start to run somewhere and game crashes still in town, can it run ?
or may be there is no point to start PoE 1 since PoE 2 will be out soon ?

[lilac trail]

R U running POE on Mac via steam ? Don’t. It’s broken (as you found out). You can use one of the Windows clients on a Mac as outlined on the wiki page in the first pinned message. You can also use PoB with this method as well.
All free except Crossover, which requires a license.
The other option is to play via GFN. This is ok as well but you can’t use any third party apps on it. There is only 1 free tier.

You should continue to play POE. It is the base game and a lot of the POE 2 mechanics are derived from it. Even if they do not carry over, it will make POE 2 more familiar.

POE 2 is only EA for 6 months. Then it’s likely it will be closed off while GGG polish it off. People will have to get their fix playing POE again till POE 2 launches for general access.

[bright spade]

thanks, i'll try it

[lilac trail]

For those who qualified for a free key via a lifetime spend - the key should be in your account. It is only a Steam key though. There is a note that Epic is not yet available. No mention of standalone access, despite the FAQ stating "If you have purchased a key and/or have access granted for one PC game client (Stand-alone, Steam, or Epic)". I am assuming (hoping) the standalone client key turns up soon as well, or that the steam key can be used with the standalone client.

The Windows Steam client should work in one of the apps outlined in the wiki. Performance may not be as good (someone recently tested this said it was not as good) but in a worst case scenario where the standalone is not an option, it's a possibility.

[proud igloo]

The very top line in your EA page indicates if your account itself is entitled. The Steam/Epic keys are solely to add the title to the respective platform libraries.

The very first key you get for an account that doesn't have access already is auto-consumed to grant EA to that account, which also adds those entries for platform keys in case you want to use those in addition to standalone.

[hybrid edge]

Was there like a closed beta of PoE2?
If so, did a macOS user get it to try it on Crossover/Wine/Parallels?

[proud igloo]

There were several rounds of closed beta test. Regardless on if they tried the game on macOS or not, they're never allowed to talk about it.

[hybrid edge]

None of them, I've never found one that works

[lilac trail]

This is what the account access page looks like. If I follow you correctly - and that is tenuous - then it is stating I have access via the standalone client then ? And if so where is the key ? All I see is a steam one ...

[hybrid edge]

I mean, that's a bit harsh 🤣 - just a little "Hey also it worked great with Wine"

[proud igloo]

There is no distinct key because your game account is already entitled.

Additional keys you can give away look like this:

I bought the 480 pack (total five keys) and then got the lifetime spend key (one key).

• "Your account is eligible" indicates my game account has access, granted by auto-using the first key the account saw, which isn't shown.
• The next four lines of masked keys are the remaining keys I can give away, of which I've given away two.
• Then there's Steam and Epic client keys that came out of getting access in the first point, which I can redeem solely to add the client to the libraries; they in themselves don't grant any account access.
• Finally there's the additional lifetime key that functions the same way as other keys; if it's the first one you ever get on an account it's auto-consumed, otherwise it's a loose key you can give away like mine.

Clear as mud 😛

The standalone client, being from the company, can determine from your game account whether you are entitled to play or not. There's no keys needed for that once that entitlement is granted.

[lilac trail]

Thanks @zao - about time someone explained it properly. Support just keeps spewing back the same template response. Yours is much more helpful. It might make sense to someone at GGG but it needs to be way clearer to the average player. I'm good to go then and I don't need to claim the steam key since I don't use steam.

I am assuming the standalone client for POE 2 is different from the current one and that will be available the day before launch or day of launch. I can't actually login Dec 6th as I'll be away but I'll do so a few days afterwards.

[proud igloo]

Note that it's all my personal understanding of how the system functions, I don't know how it actually is designed and works.

[proud igloo]

One nice thing about blanket NDAs is that it removes all grey areas around what you can and can't say, both for participants and external moderation; allowing for more open interactions inside the bubble.

[hybrid edge]

Mean GGG could say it. Not the person under the NDA.

[junior jay]

man, i entered so many giveways on reddit but i guess ill need to spare 30$

[proud igloo]

@lilac trail Text on EA page has been updated for more clarity:

[lilac trail]

Probably because I badgered them multiple times to speak plain english 🤣 This might save them from others now 🤪

[sturdy scarab]

doing the lord's work out there

saves us in #2┃general and #2┃early-access from answering the same question 100x over as well

[proud igloo]

Heh, my mac is a bit behind on Homebrew updates.

I found an external HDD. 4TB Seagate, SMR spinning rust

[proud igloo]

@lilac trail Am I on the right path?

% brew upgrade
[..]
==> kegworks
kegworks is built for Intel macOS and so requires Rosetta 2 to be installed.
You can install Rosetta 2 with:
  softwareupdate --install-rosetta --agree-to-license
Note that it is very difficult to remove Rosetta 2 once it is installed.
zao@m1 SMR % 

It auto-migrated me from wineskin to kegworks, so not sure if it's installing it the preferred way.

Probably benign, has the same caveats when installing as documented.

[lilac trail]

Interesting to see the note about being for Intel. That seems odd. I’ve never noticed that but I already have Rosetta2 installed as part of GPTK.

Did you run the uninstall commands for wineskin as well ?

I found those don’t completely remove WS. It leaves a Wineskin directory in your user directory you have to manually remove.

[proud igloo]

Time to figure out how to run packcheck with Kegworks, I krangled my GGPK 😄

[lilac trail]

Oh … let me know how that goes. I tried it in Crossover or portingkit and couldn’t get it to run but that’s just me lacking the patience to figure it out

[proud igloo]

Found how to open the settings again at least, gotta open the contents of the wrapper app and run the Wineskin app inside.

[lilac trail]

Correct 👍

[proud igloo]

This drive is as unusable as I remember it, as soon as you look at it too hard it stalls out for ages.

[lilac trail]

Ouch ! Maybe you should have bought a new one instead of that support pack 😁

[proud igloo]

^_^

[lilac trail]

You should give BetterDisplay a try if you don’t have it. The virtual monitor setup is great. I ran a Virtual monitor at 8192x yesterday 😁

[proud igloo]

Ended up in a nice corner case where it didn't download PackCheck before krangling the GGPK so I couldn't run PackCheck to unkrangle it.

Ended up slipping in a copy of the Wineskin GGPK I had lying around on main storage.

Gonna let it run overnight, might even finish patching at this rate 😄

[lilac trail]

Whoa - that fast huh ? Wouldn’t it be faster just to reinstall POE ?

[proud igloo]

I'm doing more things to the drive at the same time so it competes for the few iops.

It's a SMR harddrive, it's beyond cruel to use for anything but a few large files you seldom touch.

[lilac trail]

Wow - I think I had one of those when a 5.25” floppy disk was king 🤔

Does it have a rpm rating or do the hamsters determined the revolution speed of the disk platter 🤣

[proud igloo]

(shingled disks require read-modify-write of adjacent data on changes)

[lilac trail]

Am I correct in assuming you didn't get Packcheck to run in WINE yet ?

[proud igloo]

Didn't try, but I should be able to launch it from the advanced section somewhere.

Worst case the cmd tool exists.

[fossil dock]

Under crossower pack heck is working good

[lilac trail]

How did you run it - it should work under other WINE apps like Kegworks but I have not tried. Principal should be the same as Crossover

[fossil dock]

Create Launcher from run command

[magic raven]

hey guys, have anyone tried to run poe2 on mac so far?

[edgy jacinth]

in fact, i don't think anyone beyond a very select group of journalists have run poe2 at all

early release isn't for a few more days

i don't have a free key from supporting enough so maybe someone that does will give it a go first to see if one of the existing methods works

[balmy laurel]

Early Access does not have a native MacOS version (in case you didn’t see that news)

[lilac trail]

FYI - worth checking out - https://www.reddit.com/r/macgaming/s/R53zMJ4paz

[proud igloo]

@lilac trail PoE1 finally launched on my external HDD, took a while 😄

[golden hamlet]

It would be cool to know the performance on Crossover before the native support.

[dense crystal]

so will the kegworks way work just like for poe1?

i have a key and i took the weekend off, so im just making sure i wont have to play it on the xbox

[proud igloo]

No-one knows or can divulge if PC PoE2 runs on macs or not.

[dense crystal]

yeah sadly

but i assume itll be the same process as poe1

if not then ill just have to run it through the vm

[junior jay]

instead of waiting for que ill propably try to run it day 1

but i dont expect to get any good performance out of it

[dense crystal]

im gonna run it on my xbox for the time being

[lilac trail]

It’s unplayable in a VM. I’ve run it in VMware (which is free now), Parallels and UTM.
I expect it will run via one of the methods in the wiki but we won’t know till launch. I won’t be playing till the Monday after launch due to other commitments.

[dense crystal]

yeah latency will be a killer

but i have an xbox series x ready to go

i think ill wait untill sunday to try and install poe2 on mac

[lilac trail]

Interestingly enough I did use to run it in a VM. This was years ago prior to GGG moving work loads to the GPU instead of the CPU. It was also on an Intel system, though even that slowly became impractical. VM don’t do virtual GPU and with silicon graphics and ARM the VM has to process everything at least twice

We will definitely know by this time next week if not sooner

[dense crystal]

ah yeah that makes alot of sense

crossover does look appealing but i think they updated couch play enough for me to play it on the console for now

[lilac trail]

Someone reported that there is going to be an in-game PoB in POE2. Apparently Jonathan mentioned it in an interview but not which interview. I doubt it would be a full blown PoB but who knows 🤷🏼‍♂️

[dense crystal]

oh that would actually be really neat if they put it in

i mean the software is beyond helpfull, its basically needed if ur a diehard

[lilac trail]

I wonder if they’ll implement a “what killed me” log - a real one, not the pseudo one in the asian market space.

Oh and let’s that will pick up stuff for you, like the asian market !

[dense crystal]

oh goodness

but i think that picking stuff up is part of the core of gameplay

the kill log would be dope tho

[lilac trail]

A kill log has been asked for for some time. Chris Wilson tried to explain the technical challenges in doing so, without much success. People don’t want to know why it isn’t being done - they just want it - yesterday. Personally I can’t see why a kill log would be useful. There are so many ways to die in POE. It’s unlikely you are going to do something to avoid it the “next” time it happens. Might not be a next time. It seems fairly simple to me - make sure your resistances are capped. Don’t stand in degen pools. Get immunity to corrupted blood, oh and don’t get hit so often. There you go, problem solved 🤣

[fossil dock]

Looks like in early of 6 December we can attempt to start standalone client via something

[junior jay]

not really, running it wont be a problem, but making it running smooth may require some head banging

[fossil dock]

they add new lightning system if it have some non-trivial use of something in DX12 - it can be a huge problem to run game at all

[golden hamlet]

Crossover 23+ supports DX12, so it still might be possible. We will see soon I guess

[scenic vale]

is there a MAC version of POE2?

[dense crystal]

not at the start of EA atleast

but there will be ways to make it work

[dense crystal]

i bought the early access key only to find out that you have to buy it seperately on the xbox lmao

[fossil dock]

Interesting, can I share PC key to my friend with PS5 ?

[dense crystal]

apparently not

[ember heath]

does anyone. the satndalone poe 1 suddenly cannot open any more, just keep crashing when i turn on

[dense crystal]

maybe they pushed an update?

are you using the mac clients or what?

[ember heath]

i am using window clients as the pin message suggested

it works fine yseterday

[dense crystal]

i havent tried it yet

if there is an update you will need to follow the update guide

[ember heath]

this morning when i try to turn it on, it just stay black screen a while and just crash out

[dense crystal]

im at uni rn so cant test

[dense crystal]

hmm odd

lemme try

1 sec

ah yeah

same here

oh nvm

[ember heath]

okay!

i guess not jsut me then

[dense crystal]

no yeah it crashed right after GGG intro thing

[ember heath]

yeh

[dense crystal]

sadge

[ember heath]

the log didnt catch any error

[dense crystal]

maybe try doing that update thing

where you replace the old .exe file with .old

and then the .tmp file with .exe

and run it again

[ember heath]

i didnt see the tmp file

i was trying to

[dense crystal]

hmm

then it botched xD

[ember heath]

dang... so annoying the poe is so much trouble on mac'

[dense crystal]

right??

i have decided to switch to console for the poe2 launch

cant be bothered with this headache anymore

[lilac trail]

What is the actual error message you are getting this morning ?

[ember heath]

yeh. i have a steam deck for this reason

there is no error

just crash

[dense crystal]

no error

yeah it just crashes

[lilac trail]

which app ?

[dense crystal]

kegworks

[ember heath]

same

[dense crystal]

was working last night

[ember heath]

yep

[dense crystal]

time to get brainrot in league of legends again

[lilac trail]

I’ll test it later today when I get time. There has been no POE update so it’s something with the app.

Can you check the config file and see what the renderer_type is set to

Crashes are usually either incorrect renderer or engine.

[ember heath]

where is directory for the config file?

[lilac trail]

Documents -> My Games -> Path of Exile

[ember heath]

renderer_type=Vulkan

[dense crystal]

vulkan is wrong if i remember correctly

[ember heath]

i wonder how i chaneg that

[lilac trail]

Vulkan is wrong for apple silicon

[ember heath]

weired

yeh!

mine is working now

thank you!

i guess accidently chaneged it somehow

then how did you not work then?

weird

[dense crystal]

i dont have a tmp file tho

i changed them to old like i always do for update

mines working again aswell

[ember heath]

awesome1

thank you bob!

[dense crystal]

why did mine crash then lmao

now im curious

😂

[lilac trail]

No idea how that setting changed. That is the game doing that. The windows client on Windows sometimes does weird things and crashes so it’s not the WINE app.

[lilac trail]

Your crashed because I guess you had not received the last update. Once you did the work around it behaved itself again

Some excitement before the launch of POE 2.

Speaking of which, as Gordon said, the standalone EA will be available this Thursday after 5pm PST (or whatever that equates to where you are)

Should be able to test that the standalone works with one of the WINE apps then.

Be aware you will need 120GB of disk space - yes 3 times as much as POE ggpk.
For that size the graphics better be out of this world 🤨

[dense crystal]

ohhh thats truee

and that is also if the m3pro can handle the graphics lol

[lilac trail]

Ray tracing is the only thing that might be an issue. As I understand it, some models don’t support it because … it’s Apple … but GPTK 2.0 does have ray tracing support. I don’t know if WINE apps include GPTK 2.0 with those features. You can also only get the full ray tracing features in Sequoia. Guess that’s a good excuse to update 🤔

[dense crystal]

well im running sequoia

so lets see how it goes

we have the console as backup i guess

if anything

idk how good this runs on linux, but ill honestly flash linux on this baby

[golden hamlet]

Cxpatcher enables GPTK 2.0 for crossover so it should be fine

[dense crystal]

crossover is another 70 bucks tho

[golden hamlet]

ah you missed the black friday deal then. I got it for like 19 bucks during the sale few days ago

[dense crystal]

oh shoot

big sad

is crossover that much better then kegworks?

[golden hamlet]

Ah, still works -> https://geni.us/crossover-plus-70-off -70% off

in case anyone want to snatch the last minute deal before POE2 😄 I hope sharing this doesn't break any of the rules, I have no affiliation with the link

[dense crystal]

lemme grab that hahah

[lilac trail]

Best time to get Crossover is the Cyber Monday sale. You might still be able to get it at 70% off. Try using MISFIT70 code.

If that doesn’t work TOM23 should get you 20% off

[dense crystal]

its not forever?

damn

but 22 euros for 12 months not too bad

bought it

noice

[lilac trail]

No. There is a forever license which is 23% off. Honestly it will take a long time for that to be worth paying. I got mine last year for $25US. I just renewed for $10US. Assuming that doesn’t change in the future means it would be around 10 years before it would be better to buy lifetime license.

[dense crystal]

yeah exactly

by that time poe3 will be macos supported ( properly done 😉 )

lets see how smooth this is

the thing i want mostly is that i dont have to set my screen size to get full res like i had to do with kegworks

[lilac trail]

Maybe 🤣 . You will get notified when it’s time to renew. This week is the best time to buy/renew as you will always be able to take advantage of the Cyber Monday pricing. Can’t do that at other times of the year.

[dense crystal]

ohhh ofcc

[lilac trail]

You have 30 days to renew as well so it’s a decent grace period if you forget.

[dense crystal]

makes sense yeah

im installing the game via crossover now

just to see how it goes

during install i cannot check out home?

[lilac trail]

Just an FYI - CXPatcher is not part of Crossover. You need to install it. It’s third party. Also - if for some reason it breaks Crossover you are on your own. Crossover doesn’t support it. I don’t use it since I don’t use Crossover for POE.

[dense crystal]

what is CXPatcher?

[lilac trail]

The install hasn’t started yet

[dense crystal]

insane speed what do you think?

xD

there we go

[lilac trail]

CXPatcher was necessary in the past to update DXVK and MoltenVK. It isn’t necessary to use it with Crossover these days.

[dense crystal]

https://github.com/italomandara/CXPatcher so i need to get this?

[lilac trail]

Yes that is the one

[dense crystal]

lets see

hypothetically this means league of legends wouldnt work right?

ik lol works on macos, but just as a hyp

[lilac trail]

No WINE based app will run if there is an anti-cheat embedded in the game. Valorant is another example

[dense crystal]

ah wait, i need to do this before installing poe

the patcher

[dense crystal]

ahh okay

[lilac trail]

I don’t think the sequence matters

[dense crystal]

ah okay

little confused i dont see the application to open

[lilac trail]

That will work. It’s the same code as I mentioned. I’m guessing if people use that link the youtuber gets a cut.

[lilac trail]

🤷🏼‍♂️ I don’t use it. Setup POE in Crossover first. Make sure it runs as expected. Then consider the 3rd party app

[dense crystal]

fair enough

its almost halfway

[lilac trail]

BTW - I don’t think performance will be any better with Crossover. I tested them all and didn’t notice a big FPS increase between any of the 4. They are all similar but YMMV, especially since my system is an M1 Max, which is probably considered a dinosaur these days 🤣

[dense crystal]

hahahahaha ja i can see that

wow i just responded with the dutch yeah

lol

[lilac trail]

Google translate helps if I get stuck but I know "ja" is yes from my basic knowledge of german

[dense crystal]

hahahah good to know

its almost done

quit cuz i went to eat dinner

[lilac trail]

Did POE finish installing ? You’ll still need to check the config.ini file and check settings under advanced. You probably don’t need Msync or Rsync on but you will need D3DMetal on

[dense crystal]

hehehe

predicted what u were gonna type

xD

[dense crystal]

yeah i saw it on reddit

[lilac trail]

It’s also mentioned on the wiki 👍

[dense crystal]

ah yeah thats true

done

updated config etc

it crashed instantly

[lilac trail]

BTW - you can setup a virtual monitor with BetterDisplay to run POE (and POE 2).
You can run up to 16k resolution in a VM.

The game then uses the VM, not your primary monitor

[dense crystal]

yeah i saw that too, but its a bit of a hassle

ill look into it at home

right now i need to figure out whats wrong

nah still insta crashes

[lilac trail]

Is it a black screen ?

[dense crystal]

black screen and then insta quits basically

no logs

lemme check

2024/12/03 18:35:03 81246455 e9bcd424 [INFO Client 272] [VULKAN] Supported device extension: VK_AMD_gpu_shader_half_float
2024/12/03 18:35:03 81246455 e9bcd424 [INFO Client 272] [VULKAN] Supported device extension: VK_AMD_negative_viewport_height
2024/12/03 18:35:03 81246455 e9bcd424 [INFO Client 272] [VULKAN] Supported device extension: VK_AMD_shader_image_load_store_lod
2024/12/03 18:35:03 81246455 e9bcd424 [INFO Client 272] [VULKAN] Supported device extension: VK_AMD_shader_trinary_minmax
2024/12/03 18:35:03 81246455 e9bcd424 [INFO Client 272] [VULKAN] Supported device extension: VK_IMG_format_pvrtc
2024/12/03 18:35:03 81246455 e9bcd424 [INFO Client 272] [VULKAN] Supported device extension: VK_INTEL_shader_integer_functions2
2024/12/03 18:35:03 81246455 e9bcd424 [INFO Client 272] [VULKAN] Supported device extension: VK_NV_fragment_shader_barycentric
2024/12/03 18:35:03 81246455 e9bcd424 [INFO Client 272] [VULKAN] Supported device extension: VK_NV_glsl_shader
2024/12/03 18:35:03 81246455 e9bcd248 [DEBUG Client 272] [VULKAN] Requesting device extension: VK_KHR_swapchain
2024/12/03 18:35:03 81246455 e9bcd248 [DEBUG Client 272] [VULKAN] Requesting device extension: VK_EXT_memory_budget```

this is part of the logs

its saying vulkan lmao

lets goo

@lilac trail this worked instantly

high res mode made it use my full screen quality

it looks and feels so much better

i had set my config file to read-only a long time ago, that was the issue

[lilac trail]

Is it running now or still crashes out ?

[dense crystal]

its running smooth as butter

[lilac trail]

What did you do to fix Crossover crashing ?

[dense crystal]

it was render type for some reason being overwritten by an old config file that was set to readonly

these are my settings now

[lilac trail]

Yeap. I can’t use High res. Makes the mouse pointer too small. I can’t figure out how to make mouse cursor bigger.

[dense crystal]

in ur settings you can

or if you use kegworks then its dpi

or in the game itself

i also had that issue in kegworks

[lilac trail]

That error message you saw is due to incorrect renderer setting but you figured that out 👍

[dense crystal]

yeah thankfully

i mean, if poe2 will be like this. i dont see it being an issue tbh

[lilac trail]

OK - so you now have 3 options. The ray tracing in GPTK 2 is in the latest Crossover preview release. You have access to that now you have a license. You could install that.

You could also just use CXPatcher for now

Or you can leave everything as it is now.

[dense crystal]

CXPatcher enables the GPTK2?

[lilac trail]

Yes

[dense crystal]

where?

[lilac trail]

But it isn’t needed for POE. Might not be needed for POE 2 either.

Kegworks already has it in it

[dense crystal]

true, i might go back

but if crossover has it

then im safe

[lilac trail]

Crossover preview has it, not Crossover 24.0.5, which is the latest stable release

[dense crystal]

lets see if i can find it

https://www.codeweavers.com/preview

got it

ill wait with this till thursday

to check if we will need it

[lilac trail]

You would need to install Crossover preview 20241028

[dense crystal]

which is the latest one right?

the top one ig

[lilac trail]

Yes. You could grab it and setup later.

Kegworks already has it but it does not work with POE. You have to remove the folder that has it, which then forces you to use GPTK 1.1

I’ve mentioned that to the developer. Since we had to remove the folder in KWS that had 2.0 in it I’ve asked him how to get it back to run it on Thursday. If it is a full install than I’ll just go the Crossover preview route till they provide a KWS based solution.

This is moot if POE 2.0 does not use the ray tracing features GPTK 2 supports.
@zao - maybe you can provide some comment on what is in POE 2 if you are allowed to.

If we have no ray tracing to worry about then any of the WINE apps should run

[dense crystal]

yeah exactly

i remember that step too

we will wait and see i guess right

thursday night the installer will be available, and then itll be overloaded i assume

so we will wait till friday morning

[lilac trail]

It’s 5pm PST on Thursday. I’ll be on. I’d love to see the volume of network traffic that will be hitting those servers.

Apparently there is now a Kegworks discord channel but I can’t find it. Then again my search skills on discord are crap

Ah - the discord li k is on the github page 🤪

[proud igloo]

Can't say and I've only got a vague understanding of that side anyway.

[dense crystal]

hahahahah you could look it up in the browser, surely there is a link to be found

[dense crystal]

uhmm

im in the netherlands

lets see

that will be like midnight for me

2 am lol, sadge

but i will be online for sure, friday is my work from home day anyways

[mint gale]

Hello everyone I am new to discord! I love PoE but it works probably 10% of the time

When I open it, it either can’t connect to the server, crashes, or lets me into the game but crashes a few minutes later. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[lone arrow]

Does the game closes without any error ?

[mint gale]

Yes it closes just fine unless it crashes anyway

[dense crystal]

you should look into kegworks

lemme get you the link

the normal mac client is garbage, and that is still not saying enough

[mint gale]

Is it free and safe to download?

[dense crystal]

yes very safe

most people here use it to play the game on macos

@mint gale https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Path_of_Exile_on_Mac_using_Windows_Client

this is the link ( as you can see this is on the poe wiki, so i could trust it. but you gotta make that decision by yourself )

i havent had any crashes using that way of playing

[mint gale]

Okay thank you! I will try it

[dense crystal]

lmk if there are any things that you might not understand ^^

[lilac trail]

Either one of the apps outlined in the wiki or you can try GFN. If you have EA access you will need to use one of these options. There is no Mac client for POE 2 EA

[dense crystal]

what is GFN?

[lilac trail]

Geforce Now. Hosted platform. They have both a free tier and multiple paid tiers. You need to own the games in a library such as steam

[split vortex]

Is it confirmed that it will be released on the 6th?

[lilac trail]

You can’t use 3rd party apps on it such as Awakened POE. The free tier is time limited. The other tiers aren’t free. Paying a third party provider to play a free game seems odd to me when you can play it for free for unlimited time and use other apps on your computer like APT. If none of those are an issue than GFN is viable. It may be for POE 2 but no official word on that.

[lilac trail]

EA is confirmed for the 6th. You would have to check on GFN if POE 2 will be available. I don’t use GFN so I can’t say more. My understanding is it has to be listed by them. They also are not as quick as Steam with updates so I’ve heard.

[edgy jacinth]

I would avoid GFN if at all possible and instead install to your hard drive using one of the other methods. GFN on the free tier is very limited, often you have to wait to login, only certain time length you can be using it, etc

Unless you're fine paying for GFN, but at that point you might as well just pay a one-time fee for crossover

[dense crystal]

i mean, that is assuming you have a capable mac ofcourse

or linux machine

[lilac trail]

The machine on your end needs a decent internet connection - wired preferably - otherwise you’re going to get with lag. Unifer is correct - if you are going to pay for something, Crossover makes more sense. You can use it for a lot more than just games. It will also run Windows apps - such as PoB, which is good because the Mac port of PoB is not very good.

[fossil dock]

Additionally with Crossover you can use APT

[lilac trail]

How do you do that ? Do you install it in the same bottle as POE or a seperate one ?

How do you get it to overlay on POE and use the keys correctly ?

I would like to detail the how-to on the wiki

[fossil dock]

Ok, I provide you full information, but now... now I prepare release because I need some day offs, if you know what I mean....

[lilac trail]

I think we’re all in prep mode. I’m going with a Mercenary. Beyond that I have no idea. My build is going to suck initially I’m sure

[edgy jacinth]

i am planning to wait a week or two and let all the crazy bugs get fixed and let players figure a bit out and not go in totally empty... i have limited play time so can't just be mucking around 🙂

[lilac trail]

I won’t be on till at least the first Sunday since I’m out of town. I prefer to follow a build since I’m hopeless at putting one together myself. Plus PoB won’t likely be ready. You can’t plan a build without that !

[dense crystal]

hahahah you can also just experiment for the first couple of hours no? just seeing what suits you. who knows, you might come up with a godbuild 😉

[dim quest]

Guys, i come to say Geforce Now

Is 100000 better than playing on my mac directly

Full graphics and no lagg at all

In my mac all on low spec and laggy as fuck, and sometimes i cannot evne enter in the game or i get dced randomly

[lilac trail]

Are you using the free tier ? If that works for you that's perfect. Have never had an issue with using Kegworks, portingkit, GPTK or Crossover on a Mac personally.

[dim quest]

free tier works pretty well

But today i decided to try the paid version (due it being available for PoE2)

And im amazed

it feels like im playing in my own computer 100%

And i doubt any mac can run PoE on max graphics

I hope we do someday

[lilac trail]

Do you have confirmation from GFN that POE 2 EA will be available ?
There are not that many Windows systems can run POE at maximum graphics 😀 I can run with all settings at max on my M1 except Texture filtering which I use 4x instead of 8x or 16x using GPTK though.

[dim quest]

Yes, they said it somewhere poe devs themselves.

[lilac trail]

Jonathan didn’t say it would be in time for EA. It isn’t in GGG’s control to list it. It would be weird if they didn’t but unless it is listed on the GFN site itself then it’s not definite

[sturdy scarab]

they said at some interview but ill need to track down which one it was

[lilac trail]

Yeah - there’s been a ton of interviews. Hard to keep track of them all.

[dense crystal]

i think he uses the mac client, its the only version that crashes like that

[dense crystal]

i run it on max 4k 120fps with no issues

and jonathan said that theyre ready for at most 1 million instances which is good to know

with the backend ( with synthetic tests ofc ) falls over at 1.6 million players

[lilac trail]

Hideout info for POE 2 - https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/3ORtUAb1TB

I am assuming if you purchased a HO it might come across. Those found in the game won’t

[lavish yacht]

I'm running the game on M2 pro and I don't seem to get higher than 80 fps on default settings (same across KWS, PK, and CO). is there any specific settings/configuration you guys did for better fps?

[honest plume]

why my fps are caped at 60?

im curently using m4 pro

and cant get over 60 fps cap

i turned off vsync turned on everything

[lilac trail]

What are client r u using to run POE ? Also what is the refresh rate of your monitor ?

[honest plume]

im using steam and trying to run it on macbook monitor 120hz

[lilac trail]

The mac steam client 😮 You know that is crippled right ? GGG disabled multi-threading. I'm surprised it runs at all. I'd hazard that is why you can't get above 60FPS. Suggest you try one of the WINE based apps outlined on the wiki link which is the first pinned message in this channel. All the apps are free except Crossover, which needs a license. You can trial Crossover for 2 weeks for free though. Also Crossover is currently 70% off, so depending on where you are you can get is for less than $25 (use discount code MISFIT70 on the site)

[dense crystal]

does crossover handle updates at all?

[lilac trail]

? The game manages updates. Crossover only updates itself

[dense crystal]

well duh lol

i meant do i need to swap files etc again

[lilac trail]

The issue with updates that occurs in the Windows version of POE only seems to happen on Kegworks and portingkit. I have also seen it happen in a VM. Haven't seen it using GPTK or Crossover as yet but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen

[lilac trail]

You'll find out shortly when maintenance finishes 🤣 but from memory I never encountered the issue when using CO. It's some weird assed permissions problem 🤷‍♂️

[proud igloo]

How is Kegworks et al with graphics APIs? Is it just D3D12 that works or can you get Vulkan or D3D11 running?

[lilac trail]

This is listed on the github page. Not sure if it answers your question but I would assume it does provide support

DirectX support

WineD3D (default) Supports DirectX 11 and below.
VKD3D (default) Limited DirectX 12 support.
D9VK (winetricks) DirectX 9 via Vulkan.
DXVK (winetricks) DirectX 10 & 11 via Vulkan.
D3DMetal (toggle) 64Bit DirectX 11 & 12 via Metal.

[dense crystal]

xD fair enough

[lilac trail]

BTW - Kegworks now has a discord channel !

[proud igloo]

I mean from a PoE perspective, sorry.

[dense crystal]

?

very fun this

i guess its no difference then kegworks xD

[lilac trail]

This is Crossover ? If so I'l have to change the wiki statement 😠

[dense crystal]

yeah

i did the same trick as with kegworks and it worked again

[lilac trail]

So the only app that is immune to this issue is if you run POE via GPTK (which I do)

[lilac trail]

Intel systems use Vulkan. I don't think you can select anything else. For Apple Silicon have always used D3DMetal which is DX12. If someone has Kegworks they could change the settings and see if Vulkan or DX11 run. Could test it easier in Crossover I think - would deselect D3D and select DXVK and set the renderer to Vulkan.

[formal nimbus]

poe won't even launch for me once i enable dxvk and turn to vulkan

[lilac trail]

On Apple Silicon right ?

[formal nimbus]

ye m2 pro

i get the patcher dialog, launch, immediate crash

no error msg either

[lilac trail]

Yeah that is usual if there is a mismatch with the renderer settings in the config file. Is this with Kegworks, portingkit or Crossover ?

[formal nimbus]

crossover - for what it's worth i changed the config file as well. i have it working just fine with the normal d3d method, just wanted to see if the vulkan stuff worked for testing purposes

[lilac trail]

Thanks for testing that ! If it doesn't work in CO it likely will not work in one of the other WINE based apps either.

[formal nimbus]

i'll also be dling the early release tomorrow to try with CO so happy to provide feedback then too

[lilac trail]

That would be awesome 👍 The download will take a while. It is 3 times as large as POE and that takes around 15-20 minutes when the servers aren't slammed

[formal nimbus]

set and forget i guess x)

[lilac trail]

Yeap - go play something else while it chugs away

[lilac trail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/OoWQv1RzAy

[glacial vault]

oh, i thought you were using crossover?

then is GPTK better than PK?

but i reckon the PK set up is easier for those who dont know much abt thse things than any of the other options

huh, was there a patch in today?

i go the usual error msg on PK?

[proud igloo]

Yep, new ToS and some other housekeeping.

[glacial vault]

oh bother! i have to now go and change the tmp file to exe

[proud igloo]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3592273

[glacial vault]

thanks @proud igloo for that! i have now 4 .old files

[lilac trail]

You can delete the .old files.
GPTK is no better than PK or KWS or CO. It is the technically challenging setup. It uses a series of command line statements and manual installs of multiple pieces of software.
I used it at the time because CO, PK and KWS did not have the D3DMetal support at the time.
I would not recommend it to those who are technically minded. The step by step is on the wiki for anyone who wants to use it. Given the workaround only takes about 10 seconds it isn’t really worth the extra effort.

[lilac trail]

You don’t expect someone to read the ToS 🤨

[glacial vault]

ah! good ole'PK it is!

[glacial vault]

yep and even if u did, what r u gonna do say no, i dont accept and i wont play?

[proud igloo]

I actually skimmed through it yesterday 😄

[azure ridge]

what is the trick

the trick is to change the .tmp file that it downloads to .exe and rename the old .exe to .old or just delete it

[lilac trail]

Just rename the old file. After the update finishes then delete it.

I don’t think it works if you just rename and delete the old file.

[dense crystal]

yeah

i rename the pathofexile.exe and -x64.exe to .old and the .tmp to .exe and it works

[lilac trail]

It looks like GGG are going to collect far more information than they did in the past. Make sure you read and understand that part of the TOS.

[fossil dock]

I read but as far as I can understand play via wine still possible

And overall TOS update look like GGG want to start more accurate ban rmt

[lilac trail]

You can certainly continue o use a WINE app to run the game. Nothing illegal about that. Nor is using a VPN.
What is detailed is basically to cull low hanging fruit like bots. It won’t catch everything but it will hopefully make it difficult for these things to operate.
Things like GFN are an interesting scenario - you’re using a virtual machine to play. Much of the information about a system would be temporary. I find the whole anti-piracy field interesting. It’s a constant battle between good and evil.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeForceNOW/s/YbZuSPN8Va

[lilac trail]

So apparently POE 2 is available for download on PS … Still 5hrs away for PC. Why aren’t they simultaneous 🤨

[dense crystal]

no clue

[lilac trail]

Is this for PC ?

If so how did you get there - I don't see a standalone client access on the poe2 website

[sturdy scarab]

no, you can see the controller icons

!preload

[urban loom]

PC Standalone Preload: <t:1733446800:f> , or <t:1733446800:R> , download will be at https://pathofexile2.com/download
PS5 Founder's Pack+Preload: <t:1733425200:f>, or <t:1733425200:R>
Game Launch: <t:1733511600:f> , or <t:1733511600:R>
Steam Preload: Speculated to be a few Hours before game launch based on past patches: #2┃general message . Not confirmed.

[lilac trail]

The PC download link says "Resource not found" when I go there

[dense crystal]

yeah its xbox hahah sorry

i ragebaited you

is this game launch GMT+1?

!preload

[urban loom]

PC Standalone Preload: <t:1733446800:f> , or <t:1733446800:R> , download will be at https://pathofexile2.com/download
PS5 Founder's Pack+Preload: <t:1733425200:f>, or <t:1733425200:R>
Game Launch: <t:1733511600:f> , or <t:1733511600:R>
Steam Preload: Speculated to be a few Hours before game launch based on past patches: #2┃general message . Not confirmed.

[dense crystal]

hm i thought it might change based on location

[lilac trail]

I’m out till an hour before download. I’ll live 🤪

[dense crystal]

does anyone know about a queue reset. someone in xbox channel said that 3 hours b4 game launch queues get reset

[dense crystal]

damnnn

ill play for you dw

[lilac trail]

spinning, spinning, spinning on download ….

Not a good sign 😬

And the pathofexile site has crashed

Oh they’ve restarted all realms ?

[lavish yacht]

ppl are saying you can download via epic but i'm not using it myself

[lilac trail]

Don’t use epic either. Not sure how they are doing that. The POE sites are down. I would assume epic links to poe for the installer 🤷🏼‍♂️

At least the pathofexile2 site now has/had the Windows installer on it now.

They've had weeks to prepare and NOW there are "kinks" in the preload system 🤨

[lavish yacht]

ye it's interesting to me what the issue could possibly be other than high load

[proud igloo]

[lilac trail]

I saw the twitter post 🤣 It doesn't bode well for tomorrow. Maybe it's time to get a new provider. Whoever is maintaining systems for GGG suck

https://tenor.com/view/ocean-park-roy-chiken-chicken-rooster-gif-11915388618725228428

[lavish yacht]

how long do you guys think servers will be down tmrw?

[lilac trail]

https://tenor.com/view/tyrion-game-of-thrones-drinking-wine-got-gif-2650600688445096929

I'll come back in an hour. Things should be sorted by then. Time for another alcoholic beverage while we wait ....

[hard echo]

huh, you can preload poe2 on mac. steamdb shows macos depots too

[lilac trail]

I assume you need a steam account to access the download ?

And no - you can’t preload a Mac client for POE 2.

[hard echo]

i mean i can't, it's too big.. but pretty sure i could

[sturdy scarab]

i can def start preloading

[azure ridge]

if they built mac native im gonna nut

[lilac trail]

That isn't for POE 2. That's the size for POE. Trust me - there isn't a Mac client for EA

[lilac trail]

Do you need a steam account to grab the steam download though ?

[azure ridge]

ok guys im gonna try a kegworks wrapper on poe2 windows installer rn

[lilac trail]

standalone is up !

[sturdy scarab]

well, i assume so. i'm logged in and redeemed my steam key.

[lilac trail]

OK - the standalone is noe available via pathofexile2.com/download

It is 24mb.

[sturdy scarab]

just an installer

[lilac trail]

Yes. I assume you need to install as usual and it will then download the full client - which is supposed to be 100-120GB

[azure ridge]

[sturdy scarab]

full client seems to be only 86.2gb

[lilac trail]

It was reported that the PS5 client ended up being 89GB. THe 100-120GB recommendation was posted on Steam I believe (probably GGG site as well)

[hard echo]

there's definitely a mac build you can download. if you can actually play it.. idk, i don't have the space

[lilac trail]

Yeap. Weird though - the executable for the game is called PathOfExile but setup goes to a POE2 directory. I would have expected a different executable name

[lilac trail]

I don't know what to tell you. GGG clearly stated there would be no native Mac client for EA and none for the game for at least 6 months. If someone wants to download it go for it. If it is an actual Mac client I don't know why GGG would not mention it

[hard echo]

i messed up, looked at wrong stuff..

there's no mac client to download, you're right

it's too late, gotta sleep ;)

[lilac trail]

The install in Kegworks just crashed out on me with this error

[hard echo]

i had the same issue on windows

[lilac trail]

It's a backend issue - the servers are not happy

[hard echo]

i'm switching to steam..

likely

[azure ridge]

mines just stalling but i think thats content server overload

[lavish yacht]

crossover looks fine till around 2%

[azure ridge]

shes chugging along again bob

[lilac trail]

I'd say the servers are borking. That's my technical term 🙂 I just hit the same issue. I could try in portingkit but I suspect the same issue will occur

[azure ridge]

[oak root]

doesnt the game not work on mac? are yall using VMs to play? lol

[merry orchid]

is tomorrow the day i’ll regret not getting the crossover black friday deal

[lilac trail]

No. It may still be on sale. Correction the code no longer works. If you use TOM23 you will get 20% off Ithink - so it would be $59.20 us

[azure ridge]

ah mine crashed too

[merry orchid]

oh sweet baby jesus

[azure ridge]

[azure ridge]

smae crash happens on kegworks its server side imo

prolly just loses connection

[lilac trail]

I could try GPTK but it will have the same issue

[lilac trail]

Someone suggested opening in admin mode in the Windows channel. I don't think that will help but maybe worht a shot

Except I don't know how you would open Kegworks in admin mode ....

[hybrid edge]

Ok, which one of you sons of bitches is getting PoE 2 and playing it via Wine/Whiskey/Crossover?
So I know who to barrage with question

[azure ridge]

kegworks wrapper tests are sudoers role, meaning its already "admin mode" for disk writing purposes

[proud igloo]

For you peeps preloading on Steam I have no internal information for you, but if you look at SteamDB the macOS depot is empty.

[hybrid edge]

Who am I spamming questions to on launch hour? There has to be a sacrificial GOAT.

[lilac trail]

That's what I thought - but wasn't entirely sure

[azure ridge]

getting messages like this http 403, nothing to do with local perms

[lilac trail]

I agree

[hybrid edge]

@lilac trail Can we count on you tomorrow?

Are you a reliable Bob?

What kind of Bob are you?
BobCan or BobCant

[azure ridge]

wen macos native - if youre looking for someone who can port for apple silicon i know a few good devs here in aus

[lilac trail]

I won't be here tomorrow which is why I'm trying t osetup tonight. However you don't need me. The wiki page has all the setup instructions you need and others are as familair with the Kegworks and other WINE apps as I am. As to whether I'm reliable .....🤣

[hybrid edge]

I am talking about Poe2 bobby, not Poe1, wiki won't have shit.

[proud igloo]

Most roles tend to be on-site.

[hybrid edge]

We need a gestapo-styled list of all the macOS users attempting PoE2 on launch so we can make an accurate assessment on the hour.
So the rest of us can join in on the fun without getting too far back.

It's strange as hell that GGG won't just come out and say "Don't bother with Wine".
As if we gotta pay $$ and then have it crap out. There is no refund afaik(?).

I get that it's running it through translation layer and they don't officially support macOS.
But they used to.

I don't want them to tell me it works with macOS. I want them to tell me, it doesn't.

[azure ridge]

if u just follow the kegworks wiki for poe1 it works the exact same way to run poe2 (after the servers come back from getting smashed)

[hybrid edge]

But you can't know for certain, I mean it's a new client.

Translation layers (even with GPTK) is a crap shot.

[azure ridge]

i can because i just did it

[hybrid edge]

Woooaaah

We know for certain?

People tried beta?

[azure ridge]

u guys are in nz right?

[hybrid edge]

You just dropped this, and left the conversation.
I hate you, but also I love you.

[azure ridge]

i will send some apple devs over

[lilac trail]

GGG are yes - Auckland I believe

[lilac trail]

Both heisensperg and I attmepted the install. It is exactly the same steps as the wiki. The only difference is the installer name - which obviously is different to POE1.

[proud igloo]

Yeah, in Auckland. If you know someone that's actually keen on a new setting it probably won't hurt to have a chat with the hiring peeps.

I assume that none of you have made it to launching the client yet, just the patcher?

[azure ridge]

will do, i been meaning to have a chat for a while

[hybrid edge]

So hold on, We got "Kegworks", Whisky, Crossover and just plain Wine.
I never heard of Kegworks, does it have an index of games that work like crossover does?

[proud igloo]

Kegworks née Wineskin.

[hybrid edge]

Hold up, you did the install ,but you haven't actually run the game, lol

[proud igloo]

(née means "formerly, by maiden name")

[azure ridge]

yeah cant beat the patcher boss yet zao

but i think the client will work once its downloaded

[lilac trail]

Read the threads for the past 15 minutes. The server back end is failing. Nothing to do with the Kegworks app

[hybrid edge]

As I said, these translation layer (even with Apples work on GPTK) is a crap shot.
Unless you run the game. You can't know shizzle.

Shadow of War runs perfectly with 60fps via Crossover.
All models are invisible.
Don't get me wrong, it renders them via the shaders.

But they are not put in the framebuffer for some reason.

[hybrid edge]

Wait the EA has launched?!

[lilac trail]

No

[hybrid edge]

So what have you actually tested? What am I reading?

[hybrid edge]

The hell you talking about servers for.

[azure ridge]

bro has gotta be trolling atp

[proud igloo]

My impression is that they've obtained the PC standalone installer, currently running the patcher and is busy patching. They do not seem to have launched the actual client yet.

[hybrid edge]

But again who gives a crap about installer.
It's runtime or bust.

Like the game could run, could run all the shaders, draw all the vertices and just crap out when writing to to texture or even presenting texture.

So many things that can break... and that's just rendering.

[hybrid edge]

What trolling? I am asking if we know someone who's gonna try it via translation layer on macOS on launch.
Not if you managed to download some binary for installing.

Like all of this https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Path_of_Exile_on_Mac_using_Windows_Client#Apple_GPTK_Setup
Is invalid for PoE2 afaik there's new work in the client itself.

[safe violet]

is it confirmed that gfn will be working for poe2?

[lilac trail]

GFN posted on their site that it would be available. I posted the linked earlier today in this channel. What that actually means I don't know

[safe violet]

no way to "own" the game on mac for gfn to detect it :/ wonder if anyone else knows anything about this

[pseudo harbor]

I've got the stand alone client for windows running on my M4 mac booted to the login screen. At first it will just crash constantly when opening. To fix this you need to open finder and go to 'Documents' -> 'My Games' -> 'Path of Exile 2' -> 'poe2_production_Config.ini'. Open in textedit and you need to change renderer_type=Vulkan to renderer_type=DirectX12.

I am using Crossover with MSync, High Resolution Mode and D3DMetal turned on.

[lilac trail]

That info is on the wiki but thanks for providing all the info and congratulations for getting that far. I''ve just finished a Kegworks install so I'll be testing the same thing in a second

[pseudo harbor]

Hah cool deal. I was so excited that I didn't check the wiki or any guides and just wanted to post it.

[lilac trail]

Hey I hear yah - I'm listening to the intro music and start screen now .... swet sweet music to the ears

[lilac trail]

What is the gateway for you. Mine is Hong Kong and it doesn't seen like I can change it

[lavish yacht]

so you're telling me i can let it download and go to sleep?

[pseudo harbor]

Yea Hong Kong was auto selected but I can change that via the drop down.

[pseudo harbor]

My download errors out many times before it completed due to GGG servers taking a ponding.

[lavish yacht]

i guess a fresh download should work without errors now, right?

[pseudo harbor]

I just kept starting the launcher back up and it continued the download where it left off.

[lilac trail]

As DanteDrac mentioned - just restart the process. It doesn't seem to start from where it crashed but subsequent downloads are faster. It took me 3 attmepts for it to finish

[lavish yacht]

i know about the restart. i just want to make sure a fresh download would work without errors so that i can let it download and go to sleep.

[pseudo harbor]

Doubtful.

[lilac trail]

You WILL need to change the renderer_type in the config file to DX12.
Als obe aware - POE2 has a POE2 folde rwith it's own ini file. It does not use POE1 file

[pseudo harbor]

I imagine you will run into the download errors and have to baby sit it, unless you are very lucky.

[lilac trail]

No. You'll need to watch it till it finishes. It should not take long depending on when it started failing

[lavish yacht]

aight.

[lilac trail]

This is Kegworks

[lilac trail]

In all it's glory. Oh and you can select another gateway !
Both Crossover and Kegworks work. I suspect portingkit would as well and also GPTK.
The guide on the wiki will need slight updating to make sure people use the correct installer and executable for setup. The wiki will not be updated till Sunday at the earliest.

[pseudo harbor]

Cheers, thanks for all the work that's gone into the guides. I used to be a lost member of the flock that used the Mac version of POE1 and had constant errors before I was shown the light.

[lilac trail]

We'll all likely go back to using the Mac client if it ever gets released

[pseudo harbor]

I hope its Apple Sillicon native and runs well. Currently the Windows version gives me better FPS than the "mac" version of POE1.

[lilac trail]

But for now the WINE based work arounds allow us to play pretty smoothly on a Mac. You can use the same methods to use the windows versions of PoB and APT too, which will always be better than the Mac port of both those apps

[lilac trail]

Because the Mac version is capped at 60FPS. You can't go above that even if you have the monitor, CPU and GPU to do so. So I hope they get rid of that too

[pseudo harbor]

Ahhhh.

[hybrid edge]

Right, I am assuming you bought the supporter pack to get playing.
Will you play the moment the flood gates are opened? You mind if I ping you for a review over how well Crossover works?

Also @pseudo harbor Which Apple Silicon are you running on?

[proud igloo]

[pseudo harbor]

Nah, I spent too much money on POE1 through the years so I got a key for free. I will be playing right as the gates open indeed, and feel free to ping me. Macbook Pro M4 Max.

[hybrid edge]

Dang, you got an M4 Max.
Can you beef it up to the highest settings possible so we can simulate how it's gonna run on an M1 😅

[balmy laurel]

Ready to rock & roll

M1 Pro + Wineskin Winery (now known as Kegworks?)

[midnight imp]

hey everyone! will be trying to get poe 2 working on my mac. Will let you know how it goes and if i run into problems and what seems to work to fix it 👍

does anyone have a rough idea if a M1 2020 macbook air would be able to run poe2 even if its on min settings?

[dense crystal]

what is the setup for kegworks now with the new game?

and do we have the download link

[balmy laurel]

same as for poe1

[dense crystal]

i cant find it

[balmy laurel]

www.pathofexile2.com/download

[dense crystal]

ahhh tyty

which one?

[balmy laurel]

this is what i see when i go there

[dense crystal]

hmmm

thats odd

oh not logged in

[proud igloo]

You should probably be logged in.

[dense crystal]

w8 whut

i am logged in

[proud igloo]

The link in the very top left corner of the website turns from "Get access" to "Download now".

That should lead you to the page Woodenman showed.

[dense crystal]

very weird

i have the access keys

but i dont see the download

big sad

oh got it

im blind

just woke up

yeah hehe

[proud igloo]

It's not always super obvious where to go, I got lost earlier today.

[dense crystal]

should i do this with crossover?

or would i be the first

[dense crystal]

hahaha i played the game last night for 10 min

on xbox

did we need direct3dmetal?

i need help

it doesnt say i need it in the guide

but i remember us needing it in poe1

[last crag]

Sorry for late to the party but can this be run natively or we need some kind of PC/Linux or helper app? Don’t really game on the Mac but if it was good for PoE2… 😁

[dense crystal]

its the same story as poe1

[proud igloo]

No first party macOS client at the start of EA, see the FAQ for the exact wording.

[dense crystal]

if anyone has done this with crossover preview lmk

[last crag]

Never played PoE1 on it.
I’ll do some homework and catch up.

[last crag]

Thanks

[proud igloo]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981

[dense crystal]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Path_of_Exile_on_Mac_using_Windows_Client

[proud igloo]

Unfortunately Path of Exile 2 will not be available on MacOS at the start of Early Access, but we’re keen to add support for this platform as soon as possible.

[dense crystal]

this was all i needed right?

[midnight imp]

im trying to get it up running with the guide now. Running into some issues but trying to resolve. feel free to ask for help if you need it

[dense crystal]

i dont see a place where i can enable gptk2.0

[dense crystal]

are you using kegworks?

[midnight imp]

yes trying to now

[dense crystal]

nicee

[midnight imp]

but hitting an error

anyone know how to resolve this? it lets me proceed to the POE installer but it doesn't give the same options as the guide

[dense crystal]

what r ur settings?

[midnight imp]

and once you accept it doesn't seem to start the full 40gb download

[midnight imp]

i have no idea, just followed the guide from the start ^^

[dense crystal]

did you enable d3dmetal and such?

[midnight imp]

no not yet

i might need to download that seperate? it wasn't mentioned in the guide only later

i thought it might be downloaded with the other stuff in the guide but maybe not

[dense crystal]

it should be a checkbox in kegworks

if you have screenshots or something i might be able to help

[midnight imp]

okay i think i was being dumb

bear with me 5 mins i think i know what i did

will save me asking questiosn that i can fix with tinkering ^^

[dense crystal]

xD no rush

im here the whole time

[midnight imp]

okay got the downloading running

will let you know if i get it up and running 100%

thanks for the help so far, will stick around today to help others who have no tech background figure it out

sometimes a dumb person explaining helps haha

[dense crystal]

moceee

hahahaha i am the dumb person

so who knows

xD

[midnight imp]

👍

[midnight imp]

just a word of warning there was a file that couldn't download and stopped me at about 10 GB

going to restart and try again

[dense crystal]

ur speed is soo much better

[dense crystal]

oh huh

thats odd

did it say what file?

[midnight imp]

no i should have screenshot the error message tbh

im gettig this if i try and resetit

probably best if i uninstall and try installing fresh i think

[fossil dock]

Looks like you have network issues

sorry wrong reply

[dense crystal]

i have 400mbps

xD

oh u mean him

[midnight imp]

im streaming the cricket while it downloads so maybe thats the reason ^^

[dense crystal]

yeah it should continue from where it left off

[fossil dock]

i have 8gbs optic....

[dense crystal]

i should have 1gb but ay

[midnight imp]

it shouldn't affect the download just the speed right?

[dense crystal]

its working

8gb is dope tho

[dense crystal]

yeah

double check how much gb it is in totoal

if its 10gb less then mine

u know it was just network

and it continued on from where it left off

total seems to be 86gb so if urs is 76 we know it was network

[silent moss]

ive downloaded it and it works, but I can't login to my account. Is anyone else having that issue?

[midnight imp]

well the patcher is working again now, starting the download at 0% again but lets see how it goes this time ^^

[dense crystal]

server isnt live yet

so makes sense i think

[silent moss]

ok cool, I could log in on ps5 and enter queue but maybe that is just for ps5

[dense crystal]

u could actually log in?

[midnight imp]

I haven't bought a key yet, was going to test it runs on my mac first. But let us know how this goes, i kind of want to confirm the keys work with the workaround too ^^

[silent moss]

yeah logged in and entered queue on ps5

[dense crystal]

w8 u dont have a key

but how r u going to play even on mac then?

[midnight imp]

can't i just buy one?

i assume we just use a pc key right?

[dense crystal]

you can, otherwise you wont be able to play on mac either

since you will need to log in with an account that has a key

[midnight imp]

wait im a little confused

[dense crystal]

no key = no play

[midnight imp]

I should just be able to buy the early access key from the site? then use it on the mac workaround right?

[midnight imp]

oh yeah ofc lol ^^

[dense crystal]

yeah

xD

idk maybe it wasnt clear sorry

but yeah as long as ur poe account has a key

ur good to go

[midnight imp]

I didn't think this was a free "workaround" lol

[dense crystal]

hahahaha okay good

[midnight imp]

but thanks for letting me know, as if i did think that, it would have helped lol

[merry orchid]

wait wait

[dense crystal]

yeah i had this issue where i bought the key thinking it would transfer to xbox...

big sad it didnt

[merry orchid]

is it…… workinf????

[dense crystal]

what is?

the download yes

[merry orchid]

omg

[dense crystal]

game is still 9 hours away

im almost there

then i can get back to work

lol

[merry orchid]

i know i know… haha i live in us east coast, just woke up for gym and when it was 9.15pm yssterday people had problems with dowloands goo

[dense crystal]

xD yeah

i even played the game for 5 min on xbox

due to some bug

was very fun

i now own the character name "witch"

[merry orchid]

literally the FIRST thing i do after shutting off the alarm was chdcking discord on my phone

[dense crystal]

someone will have to buy that name off of me heheheh

i will be the one and only witch in this game Muhahahahah

startung the game now

lets see how it goes

oh lord

not this

[fossil dock]

change render

[dense crystal]

the config is empty lol

oh not anymore

lol nice

[dense crystal]

yeah got it

b4 i started the game it was empty which makes sense ofc

annnnddd

were in

[fossil dock]

Gratias

[silent moss]

Nice one! Can you log in?

[dense crystal]

nah i cannot

i think solely cuz servers are not alive yet

but its working, and i dont see ray tracing needed or anything

which is a good sign for mac users

[silent moss]

Ok good not just me then! Will just have to try in 9 hours haha

[fossil dock]

Bad thing can happen when we try login to game and start play....

[dense crystal]

yeppp

[dense crystal]

shushhh

dont say it

xD

i have my xbox as backup

[fossil dock]

my backup is GFN

[dense crystal]

fairr

[midnight imp]

my back up is GFN now too ^^

[midnight imp]

just in case do you know when they plan to have it up for the beta? (if it all)?

[fossil dock]

I don't know.... maybe in couple of hours before launch

[midnight imp]

yeah from the brief look i had, no one knows yet

people are a bit skeptical of it being ready for launch as they might need a few days to get it up and running

so first choice is this workaround just in case ^^

[faint gust]

is therre a standalone client or you need steam ?

[midnight imp]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Path_of_Exile_on_Mac_using_Windows_Client#portingkit_(PK)_Setup

[midnight imp]

theres a downloand link here and on the poe2 website where you can hopefully do it standalone

[severe compass]

Should I use kegworks instead of Whisky?

donwloading poe2 on whisky and hoping for the best right now lol

[narrow mesa]

Do you use Kegworks with M1 chip? (it says to me it was built with Intel

[azure ridge]

kegworks is fine on m2 so it works on apple silicon

[narrow mesa]

Did you have to run:

  softwareupdate --install-rosetta --agree-to-license

?

[azure ridge]

brew uninstall --force --zap wineskin
brew install --cask --no-quarantine gcenx/wine/kegworks ```

that was all i needed

[narrow mesa]

brew install says:

kegworks is built for Intel macOS and so requires Rosetta 2 to be installed.
You can install Rosetta 2 with:
  softwareupdate --install-rosetta --agree-to-license
Note that it is very difficult to remove Rosetta 2 once it is installed.

[azure ridge]

hmm i might have already had it due to porting in the past

its just a translation layer

[lilac trail]

Do not use Whisky. The performance is horrible. Use one of the other options on the wiki

[severe compass]

Had no Idea it was worse. Was running Kingdom Come Deliverance on Whisky with 70fps

Will install kegworks then

[lilac trail]

I should clarify - Whisky runs POE horribly. Other games it is fine to use

[severe compass]

oh ok

Can I transfer the files from whisky to kegworks or i'll need to redownload?

[lilac trail]

Technically you probably can but I’m not sure how you would do so. If you have the space setup Kegworks and install POE 2.0. Once you have it going delete the POE 2 bottle in Whisky.

If you don’t have the space then delete POE2 in Whisky and setup Kegworks

The wiki page steps are exactly the same except that the installer and executable are different names. I won’t be able to update the wiki for POE 2 till Sunday unfortunately.

[severe compass]

yeah i have the space, will redownload everything then

thanks for the help

[lilac trail]

NP 👍 The servers are actually the main issue in all of this 🤪

[severe compass]

i'm just happy it started on whisky already, I gave my PC to my wife for her to work and only have the mac to play right now (It's my company's mac but they don't need to know lol)

[proud igloo]

Extended hardware test suite.

[lilac trail]

I tested POE on Whisky along with all the other apps on the wiki. It installs and runs but the frame rate is non-existent

[karmic schooner]

I was able to open PoE2 on an M2 Macbook Air...but High Resolution Mode is not good, so had to turn off that feature

I'm using CrossOver

[lilac trail]

What does “not good” mean

[severe compass]

good to know, thanks man

[lilac trail]

Whisky was the only program that would run a game that uses an old version of openGL. Just goes to show there is no “one solution fits all”

[junior jay]

it is, buying a desktop pc

just it aint cheap, thankfully, we got cloud solutions nowadays

[dim quest]

I think people is blind, or doesnt know how to read...

You can play Poe1 and Poe2 in gforce now, FULL MAXED graphics, smoother than i ever played in any PC or MAC...

[severe compass]

gforce now is prohibitively expensive in my country

[fossil dock]

plus from 1 jan they limit playtime to 100h per month

[safe violet]

its unlimited for all of 2025?

[lilac trail]

No. There are multiple tiers. There is a free one but game time is very limited. Others tiers you pay a monthly cost for. They also have a limit amount of game time in one session. Each tier gives you better cpu and gpu. They are not all the same. If you have the ultimate package I think there is a longer grace period till the 100 hrs per month kicks in.

The main point is though - why pay a monthly fee when you could buy a license if Crossover for a one time cost of $52.

It all comes down to personal preference. You can use a free option or a one time cost or you can pay an ongoing monthly fee if you feel you are getting value.

You also can’t use any 3rd party products via GFN.

[merry orchid]

unless they explicitly add it as a feature... i.e. wow addons

[safe violet]

"And it’s the gift that keeps on giving - subscribe now and get unlimited playtime for all of 2025."
something I'm misunderstanding?

[narrow mesa]

What country are you from and what price do you have? Just out from curiosity

I just ran POE2 using Kegworks as adviced above 😄

[severe compass]

Brazil, it starts at 63 reais for 40 hours/month limit, 214 reais for 180hours/month.

[narrow mesa]

Which is 35,47 USD for 180h/month, in Poland 27 USD for 100h/month

[drowsy warren]

has anyone gotten past the installer for poe2 with crossover?