linux-🐧

[strong kraken]

I don't actually use the keybinds lol, I just know this loosely from having looked at the github

[grizzled roost]

I mean I did not do anythings shown above to fix the issue but I apreciate the help. I sometimes have a hard time finding the right info through the bunch of info that is presented. guess I can work with an extra key

[cold cloak]

cachysos witch pacman and yas for arch

[strong kraken]

(I'm interpreting your message as "CachyOS with pacman and yay for the AUR")
if you'd opened the link you'd know that it's packaged in the AUR...

[strong kraken]

Very well in my (and others') experience.

Steam is probably the easiest/most straightforward way (it is the one I use), but iirc people have also had success with the standalone client through lutris and bottles.

[little chasm]

poe2 works great with steam.

[proven needle]

Performance is better/comparable to windows.

[cold cloak]

yes how to know for update, ? is automatic ? nice

[unique depot]

Hey I'm having issues with awakened poe trade. It only shows up on half of my screen and I can't find a way to fix it

[solemn lark]

I have some issue with it as well (PoE 1 on EndeavourOS). Still trying to figure out how to fix it.

[solemn lark]

I'm trying to launch PoE via Steam on EndeavourOS (Arch). It runs great, but there is visible screen tearing and I think GSync is not working properly. I have a GSync screen and on the same machine in Windows 11 (dual boot) PoE runs butter-smooth. Any ideas how to force proper gsync in PoE on Steam on Linux? Any gotchas? I think I've tried all combinations of settings I could think of.. getting a bit desperate here 😅

[fierce bone]

check nvidia-settings

i only have it in wsl so a lot of features is missing, but on a real install the features that the windows version & the linux version has is more or less 1:1

and if this does nothing lmk and we can look at launch args, proton etc

[solemn lark]

I am missing the right 2 windows of this, I just have the one on the left. Maybe I didn't install the right package for Nvidia settins? It's just called nvidia-settings in my case as well. I am getting an error message also, when launching it, will now dig into what it can mean. Brb

Btw. I am on Wayland, so maybe that's why my nvidia-settings is cut. I am still new to Linux, learning a ton every day.

[strong kraken]

what compositor/desktop environment are you using?

[solemn lark]

Emm, Wayland on KDE Plasma 6. I hope it answers your question, I’m a Linux noob 😅

[strong kraken]

yes, that does answer my question

the weird thing is that tearing should be impossible on wayland by default. I recommend looking to make sure you didn't enable anything for "tearing" or "immediate" in the KDE Plasma settings. Otherwise, it might be a VRR/gsync bug (nvidia is known to be a bit problematic on Linux), so you can try disabling that in the settings as well.

oh you should also try enabling vsync in the PoE settings, ofc

[fierce bone]

O i didn't see that you replied, but I wouldn't be much help anyway, i don't use wayland because it's still quite quirky

[shell elm]

I can only get 2/3 of the fps in wayland vs xorg, but I'm still on kubuntu 24.04, so I'm still using plasma on xorg

[woeful basalt]

is rusty pob2 trustable?

[strong kraken]

it's open source, so you can check the code if you want. I do use it. You can also use it through flatpak if you'd prefer.

[meager thicket]

PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 seems to be broken

other than that everything works for me

[arctic raptor]

poe2 I keep crashing,, on linux - "GameObject deserialisation failure: Unrecognised task serialised by server; missing registration? 8905"

[feral grotto]

Anyone else experiencing random crashes to desktop? Doesn't matter if I go for Vulkan or DX12 after some arbitrary time the game crashes

had them before on arch, got a new ssd and still have them with a fresh system

[woeful basalt]

1. I'm facing dc on area change
2. Graphic glitches
3. So far only 2 crash
   idk what they even optimized before this update it was working good

[feral grotto]

I had the same issue in PoE 1 in the last league, before it was fine

[alpine star]

I was fine in act 1, but in act 2 I have multiple crashes in some areas, it seems to be fine in others. Also used to work fine before this patch

[brisk mountain]

i cant get the patcher to get the last ~72MB:
2025/12/13 20:28:02 7045289 587ddce7 [INFO Client 392] Got file list for "Bundles2/Folders/art/textures/items/armour/body/microtransactions" 6
2025/12/13 20:28:02 7045666 587ddce7 [INFO Client 392] Got file list for "Bundles2/Folders/art/textures/environment/act4/belly/1" 5
2025/12/13 20:28:02 7045673 587ddce7 [INFO Client 392] Got file list for "Bundles2/Folders/art/textures/environment/act4/belly/3" 4
2025/12/13 20:28:02 7045680 587ddce7 [INFO Client 392] Got file list for "Bundles2/Folders/art/textures/environment/act4/belly/D" 3
2025/12/13 20:28:02 7045688 587ddce7 [INFO Client 392] Got file list for "Bundles2/Folders/art/textures/environment/act4/belly/B" 2
2025/12/13 20:28:02 7045695 587ddce7 [INFO Client 392] Got file list for "Bundles2/Folders/art/textures/environment/act4/belly/F" 1
2025/12/13 20:28:02 7045702 587ddce7 [INFO Client 392] Got file list for "Bundles2/Folders/art/textures/environment/act4/belly/4" 0
2025/12/13 20:28:02 7045709 587df685 [INFO Client 392] Finished checking files
2025/12/13 20:28:02 7045821 587dd487 [CRIT Client 392] Failed to open PathOfExile.exe with error 32
2025/12/13 20:28:02 7046007 68385450 [WARN Client 392] Error: Failed writing received data to disk/application (Failure writing output to destination
seems to be the belly/4 always...

tried different wine builds, same error

[zenith sphinx]

Im trying to change my input setting from controller wasd, but it won't let me change it. I'm playing on the Desktop mode of the steam deck so it definitely has something to do with that.

[true knot]

Does anyone else using Plasma have an issue where the game does not go fullscreen. Instead the taskbar stays on screen with a modified resolution. If I change it to 1920x1080 then it crashes within a minute.

[brisk mountain]

i did start using plasma this month, poe is started using a virtual desktop like this: "$WINE" explorer /desktop=Path_of_Exile_1,1920x1080 "./PathOfExile.exe" "$@"

[true knot]

Hmm interesting, I wonder if this is the same when using proton via steam.

[brisk mountain]

my wine prefix worked until this patch. game is standalone and the prefix was only created perhaps 2 weeks ago

i did switch back to x11 due to nvidia issues on debian stable with wayland and active nvidia-drm kernel option

[brisk mountain]

wine output with WINEDEBUG='err+all,warn+all,fixme+all,+seh,-ntdll,-KERNEL32'
it somehow fails to update the exe?

huh, i had to start the game via Client.exe so that the patcher could exchange the PathOfExile.exe..., it works again

[woeful basalt]

same issue just using pop os default everything

with that texture issue, random crash and dc on area change

[true knot]

I have figured out that if I start the game and log in, alt tab out then click the icon to get back on it will maximize in fullscreen and correct resolution.

Yeah lots of crashes for me too.

[fading topaz]

Is it normal that my game install is ~55GB, whereas my shader cache is over 60GB?

[outer pagoda]

yes

[jovial heart]

POP OS is not stable yet. It says that the version is stable, but it is not free of bugs. Some people have such bugs that they have to restart the system every now and then because you can't do anything. A good distribution will be available next year. There is no Secure Boot in this distribution, so you have to manually disable and enable it if you also want to use Windows 11, which can be a nuisance.

[jovial current]

My CPU jumps up to 90%+ whenever i enter a new area.
It wasn't like this before, game is lagging like hell, and this is a new computer with high specs.
Anyone else having this problem?
Not sure if it is Linux-specific or not

[outer pagoda]

is the drive bar also showing higher numbers?

[late solstice]

thsi patch wrecked my game

not running anymore

[silent cradle]

huh, same problem here

[surreal sequoia]

okay same problem here on steamdeck

[silent cradle]

it seems to happen to a lot of people so may not be linux related

[late solstice]

i googled it apperently something similar happened in the past but i only found windows solutions

[unique depot]

Has anyone else been having massive CPU spikes in game? I paused my game to let it get caught up and it was still spiking massively. Never really saw it get below 1k ms. Iv tried changing from vulkan to dx12 and Proton versions. Not sure if this is a Linux issue or game since they said they "improved performance"

[strong kraken]

my CPU goes up when shader compilation is happening (usually when I enter a new zone), but then it goes back down after a few seconds and I get GPU-bottlenecked again.

[woeful basalt]

prolly server issue i had too but got down after some time

[jovial current]

I also had this big problem where i got huge CPU spikes every time i entered a new area.
I changed from Vulkan to dx12 and now everything is completely fine.
i'm not sure what they fucked up here or if this is a proton problem.

[fading topaz]

It varies a lot by system (gpu and driver mostly)

Proton doesn't touch the graphics portion for vulkan, since that can run natively

[tardy trail]

This happened to me in poe1, kept getting freezes in Vulcan not common but it did happen. When I switched to dx12 smooth as butter.

I’m on CashyOS

[jovial current]

i wonder if it's related to shaders or shader cache

[tardy trail]

Not sure but the freezes would more often happen when the game got a lot of stuff going on with monster density. I’m not a computer expert though. Wish I had documented the issues a bit more.

[woeful basalt]

laterst exiled exchange 2 working for anyone? its now same issue as Awakened PoE but it used to work before

looks like they upgraded to new ELectron version

[late solstice]

"improoved performance"

25% more fps they said

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D and a 9070xt if you wonder... abyss just wrecks my performance no idea what i can do

[fading topaz]

Try switching between Vulkan and DX12?

[strong kraken]

Update v0.13.7 (just released 3 hours ago)

Fix issue with Linux becoming non-interactable
I think this might fix your issue.

https://github.com/Kvan7/Exiled-Exchange-2/releases/tag/v0.13.7

[woeful basalt]

thanks will download and check

i can interact now but the cant check prices ctl+ d do nothing

[bronze pecan]

Just came here to check in one Exiled Exchange not being interactable int 0.13.7

it's still having problmes for me can't find the keyboard

ok found the fix seems like it's a problem with Wayland you can run it with this command "./Exiled-Exchange-2-0.13.7.AppImage --ozone-platform=x11" from the directory where the file is saved

[jolly star]

was fine for me when i played a warrior, but i just switched back to minions and now abyss, breach and ritual is going down below 10fps

its so bad i cant dodge shit

on a 9800x3d + 9070xt

[late solstice]

yeah i kept pausing and unpausing every 2 sec inbetween abilities otherwise i would have died...

[shell elm]

great, latest exiled exchange makes my game screen go black

it was working, now blank with .13.7

[shell elm]

looks like it only works in windowed mode, either FS mode makes the screen blank

[woeful basalt]

anyone found solution for random crash or dc on area change?

[gentle forum]

Windows just decided to update itself and disable the GPU in the middle of my campaign run, time to dual boot...

[shadow path]

i have a problem. perhaps someone ca helm. im pretty new to Linux ( distro: CachyOS)

Problem.:
I am so far now that i have installed Exile-Exchange 2 via the AUR (Octopi). Its interactable for the first time. After closing the window clicks pass right through the overlay. This problem is already stated on the github. ANd solution would be to update the EE2 app. My problem is i dont know how to manually update the App. Inside the app the updater is not clickable, as well as not clickable in the browser. The AUR only shows version 0.13.6. Anyone can explain how i can update the version with AUR?

[woeful basalt]

AUR still got the old version. Maintainer need to update it to 0.13.7

u can either update it manually or wait or use the appimage directly

[shadow path]

appimage is faulty for me. its bug out instantly. always giving EE2 forefront not letting me click dpoe2 anymore and not toggling any overlay window

question is how to update it manually

never did before

[strong kraken]

you need to edit the PKGBUILD

I strongly advise against using the AUR if you don't understand the PKGBUILD format, since you should be manually reviewing the build script before you run it. There have been multiple instances of malicious PKGBUILDs being used to distribute malware.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PKGBUILD
to update exiled-exchange-2, I think you'll need to update the pkgver and the checksums in sha256sum for the version-specific downloads.

you can also look at the recent git changes in https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/log/?h=exiled-exchange-2-bin to see how updates have been done before

[vocal patrol]

Hi! Does anyone have experience getting Exiled Exchange 2 (or Awakened PoE trade for that matter) to work properly on X11 window managers? I was planning to use it through the browser interface (starting the appimage with the --no-overlay flag) and go from there. It does register my key presses (as seen in the debug screen) but i cannot Ctrl+D to load an item for price-checking into the web interface. Manual copy-paste into the price-checking field works.

I suspect it doesn't properly hook into the PoE 2 window to copy and capture the item stats.

System: PoE 2 is running through steam with Proton version Experimental. OS is Gentoo Linux on an x86-64 platform. I am running dwm as my window manager, through the gentoo distribution of the X11 server without any custom config. Thanks in advance ^^

[sand lintel]

Just updated EE and it just flat out broke lmao can't click through it

[shell elm]

mine makes my screen go blank with windowed full screen

I had to make the game windowed while running it

[woeful basalt]

i moved from popos to cachcy and so far no crash lets see ( may be due to latest nvidia driver pop still on 580)

exiled exchange still not working though

[halcyon hull]

You guys may need to add the flag —ozone-platform=x11. The electron version was updated like 5 major versions to the latest one and there was a breaking change in how it interacts with certain desktop environments

[shell elm]

still blank screen so it wasn't that (plasma/Xorg on ubuntu 24.04)

[worldly steeple]

I had issues with them until I started running them with the XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11 env variable and --sandbox option

[worldly steeple]

^

[shell elm]

I can't run with sandbox ./Exiled-Exchange-2-0.13.8.AppImage [1779351:1227/071916.473349:FATAL:sandbox/linux/suid/client/setuid_sandbox_host.cc:166] The SUID sandbox helper binary was found, but is not configured correctly. Rather than run without sandboxing I'm aborting now. You need to make sure that /tmp/.mount_ExiledM9nOwf/chrome-sandbox is owned by root and has mode 4755.

I'll try xdg session

nope, still blank screen

[halcyon moat]

set the permissions

and ownership

always run browser apps in sandbox, thumb of advice

[woeful basalt]

is the constant dc on entering or exiting map only linux issue?

[shell elm]

Except it's a bogus warning
ll /tmp/.mount_ExiledM9nOwf/chrome-sandbox ls: cannot access '/tmp/.mount_ExiledM9nOwf/chrome-sandbox': No such file or directory

I even tried making the file myself, and gave it the permissions, and the warning is the same

because obviously the directory extension after Exiled is different on every startup

and chrome-sandbox for firefox?

[strong kraken]

afaik appimage uses userspace mounting to create a virtual file system with more stuff

presumably that directory is in the virtual filesystem

[shell elm]

right so it's not up to me to set the permissions or ownership

[strong kraken]

yeah idts

[shell elm]

weird thing is it worked fine 2 versions ago

I don't mean the sandboxing, I mean the screen blanking

[vocal patrol]

i can only speak for my specific system but i've had no such issues

[woeful basalt]

what distro and proton u using?

[halcyon moat]

can you send the repo link, I will check what got broken from the commit logs

and will suggest a solution for you

[woven crescent]

no issues here

[shell elm]

none here either

[woeful basalt]

not sure whats the issue in my case.
Only thing diff is
i'm on Nvidia and using Dx12

had same issue on Vulkan as well

[shell elm]

did you run a file check?

[fossil frost]

FSR 3.1.5/ingame 2.something

[jolly star]

Wait, how do you use a different fsr version?

[fossil frost]

Optiscaler.

[woven crescent]

nah I'm just gonna dualboot for poe2 tbh. I get hard fps drops on linux in juiced abyss maps when using headhunter belt. cpu times spike here, it also tanks in win11 but not as bad. oh and i can just use my favorite overlay in windows so yea

(9800x3d)

[woeful basalt]

dont think its related to that. What i think might be issue is VRAM. My gpu only has 6GB VRAM and the game uses 4GB and may be at some point it spike or something and crashes

it never happed before 0.4 and they did graphic changes in 0.4

[jolly star]

tried optiscaler once, then removed the launch option and uninstalled optiscaler. but this still pops up, how do i get rid of it completely :(

edit: ~/fgmod/fgmod-uninstaller.sh %command% was the solution

[fossil frost]

I switched back to XWayland from Wayland, non-X had a lot of instability, frequent crashes on zone change.

Been smooth so far on XW.

[odd crater]

Exiled Exchange broken on linux again

[jovial meteor]

DX12 works beter than vulkan, don't hesitate to remove VRR shit (KDE or gnome)

[silent cradle]

interesting that I feel the in game FSR, even being 2.0, performs better on the Ally/steamdeck than when I use optiscaler patching to use newer versions of FSR

best performance seems to be in game fsr + lossless scaling. Performance and frame pacing really

[copper juniper]

I just got a steam deck oled, do you guys think the game is playable? I assume it can run the game fine with barely any enemies but if it's like endgame with breach and abyss would it be able to handle that?

[strong kraken]

iirc neversink played it on his steamdeck and it was fine for the most part, but I'm not sure about endgame

[copper juniper]

Yeah endgame is kinda what I'm worried about but I could test it myself, I just haven't installed the game yet on steam deck

[fossil frost]

Newer FSR (3.1.4+) is slower, but also a lot better in many regards compared to in-game.

Tradeoff of a FPS or two is well worth it in my opinion.

Latest update broke OptiFG, so I'm forced to use LSFG as well. It's been decent and probably doesn't trip anticheat as hard.

FG really helps with frame dips in this game, it's much smoother to do 2x30FPS than 60FPS with dips.

Latency doesn't matter much either, in short PoE2 is a good game for FG.

[silent cradle]

In general I think lsfg is better than opti. Unless the game has fg it just feels worse most of the time.

For the rog screen isn’t like I can notice too much difference in quality using the 3.x fsr

I would like if they updated their version tho

[silent cradle]

I don’t think it would at all it’s a vulkan layer

[fossil frost]

OptiFG lets you pick between FSRFG and XeFG. HUDFix worked normally, so UI wasn't interpolated.
In this game, IMO, FSRFG and LSFG trade blows quality wise, but I still prefer FSR due to better latency and framepacing (especially during dips).
XeFG and LS aren't close, Xe wins out always.

The post-process/vulkan layer nature of LSFG is a big boon in games like this still, can have peace of mind you won't trip anticheat as you say.

Though I wasn't too scared of that, said I'd give it a shot and if I got banned I'd take it up with customer support.

[blazing verge]

Anyone else having issues with PoE1 Crashing (seemingly) at random? Been having crashes every 15-30 min in campaign
Fedora 43 KDE, 7900XTX & 7800X3D
Didn't have any issues before I reinstalled my OS
I haven't played for a month since and am now getting the crashes, no changes otherwise
Proton Log only spits out
skipping destruction (fork without exec?)

[blazing verge]

No I've always been on Wayland, I've already looked at proton log files but couldn't find anything that would point out the issue

[shrewd pewter]

In my PopOS install I get a horrible stutter at that 15-30min mark, but it's never outright crashed. I have to set LD_PRELOAD="" %command% in the launch settings for both PoE1/2. It's something about the steam overlay and what "pre-loaded" libraries are used or something. But once I had that in, it's worked rock solid. (I'm on "old" popos which still has X11 ... eventually I'll upgrade to whatever the latest version is with Wayland)

https://www.protondb.com/app/238960 < can be a great source of just learning about what other people have tried on various distros when it comes to debugging. Then if you want to dive into what the configs actually do: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton?tab=readme-ov-file#runtime-config-options (linked to the Readme section, but not all of them are there and you can pull down the git repo and grep through it to find different things ... that's one LARGE ass rabbit hole though)

[blazing verge]

I'll try that later, thanks!

[strong kraken]

huh, what about the MATE spin then? Is the spin just unmaintained until MATE supports wayland?

[chrome vector]

Lo all,
So far PoE2 runs fine on my laptop (Legion Pro 5 16ARX8 / RTX4070 Max-Q, PopOS 24.04 / COSMIC)
But there have been the occasional framedrop spikes that last a few seconds before it gets back to normal. Seems unrelated to specific in-game events (full maps, quiet maps, in town).
Running with
PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1 WAYLANDDRV_PRIMARY_MONITOR=DP-1 PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1 ENABLE_LAYER_MESA_ANTI_LAG=1 MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE=immediate,
CachyOS_Proton_10.0-20251126_v3

trying with CachyOS_Proton_10.0-20251222 now

[woeful basalt]

i wonder whats the point of native support to exiled exchange if it doesnt work at all.

with more use of wayland

[chrome vector]

I figured I'd try this out but it seems this was a trick meant for X11? I'm on COSMIIC/Wayland and have been using PROTON_DLSS_UPGRADE=1 PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1 PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1 ENABLE_LAYER_MESA_ANTI_LAG=1 MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE=immediate PROTON_LOCAL_SHADER_CACHE=1. Performance is pretty good but I seem to be having a similar issue with fps dipping to 20-30fps for a moment before it gets back to 144 again. It's not too bad but definitely throwing a wrench in the works to properly enjoy the game.

[fossil frost]

LD_PRELOAD is only needed if performance completely goes to shit after a while. Known bug.

It doesn't solve dips.

[chrome vector]

ah I see
Seems I still need a lesson on how these launch parameters work. While trying to troubleshoot the lagspikes, I found that gamescope seems entirely broken for me and hard-crashed my system with just gamescope -W 2560 -H 1440 -r 144 -f -- %command%
My issue is just the lagspikes every few minutes. Not quite sure how to tackle that though

[dusty aurora]

how's the shader graph when that happens?

Also worth trying dx12 render if you're on vulkan. I found vkd3d more stable than ggg's vulkan impl

[chrome vector]

that's the thing, it's difficult to spot. Both network and shaders are green so I'm struggling to figure out which is causing the lagspikes.
From my reading, people experiencing lagspiked keep telling me to use LD_PRELOAD="", but it won't work in combination with PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1. I'm running on a wayland session, so I wonder if this is at all needed to have it run natively on wayland.

[dusty aurora]

In my experience those flags are all placebo on a reasonably standard setup but I'm on amd

honestly poe 2 is just weird. it's even worse on windows

dx12 still randomly crashes the renderer on my 3050 laptop. My linux desktop with rx 6600 is way more stable

[chrome vector]

Strange. I'm not sure how it's supposed to work
Right now, PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1 PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1 ENABLE_LAYER_MESA_ANTI_LAG=1 MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE=immediate LD_PRELOAD="" %command% at least gets me into the game. Adding PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 just shows me a black screen, in-game cursor, and audio playing. Removing LD_PRELOAD="" works too, but I'd like to understand why those two seem to not like eachother.

[dusty aurora]

I don't see why you'd need the Wayland flag since it's running via xwayland anyway

[chrome vector]

It's usually recommended to run on Wayland natively to improve performance. Definitely has helped performance and input latency

[burnt laurel]

Anyone crashing on PoE2 (Arch - CachyOS)? Twice now, on around the same area in Temple of Chaos trials lv 72 (7 stages) on the stairs of first level going down after defeating the monsters on top. I’ve crashed and wasted two of ultimatums twice in a row now.

And it seems like the game crashing doesn’t matter. You still lose the ultimatum orb anyway.

Anyone crashing in that particular spot?

I have AMD Ryzen 7 7700X and NVIDIA RTX 5080 with 32GB DDR5 ram if it helps.

That’s literally the only time it crashes like this

And there’s not even any enemies except for the one that I literally just finished killing (which was like less than 10 in that spot). So it’s not like the screen was clogged with so many dead enemies 😅

[shell elm]

wayland still halves my framerate on ubuntu 24.04

happy with xorg plasma for now

though I still can't use EE with fullscreen windowed, I have to switch to windowed or my screen goes blank as soon as I start EE. This is the same on wayland so that doesn't help

[chrome vector]

shaders are fine, its def network latency spikes
I'm stuck on wifi so it might just be something I can't fix rn

[dusty aurora]

Should check to see where the package loss is

using MTR or similar tools

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1377789

its a windows guide but that tool has a Linux version

[silent cradle]

I play on Wayland and it works fine. Using cachyos tho so unsure if there’s some of their voodoo makes it work

[shell elm]

some weird lag with latest patch , not sure if it's linux specific

key presses are sometimes virtually being ignored for up to 1s wtf

short keypresses aren't even being honoured

[shell elm]

ok figured out the problem, it was one laggy website on firefox running in the background 💩

[silent cradle]

has anyone made autohotkey work enough for this https://github.com/Lailloken/Exile-UI . With those act maps and hints where available on a website or something at least

[chrome vector]

with PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1? are you using Vulkan or dx12?
For me, dx12 doesn't work with PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 but it does with Vulkan. But my fps is worse with Vulkan

[silent cradle]

Both. I was using that before but started using game scope and scopebuddy. I don’t really notice much difference from dx to Vulkan but I’m 90% sure that I use vulkan. Keep in mind that my desktop has a 5090 so I may not have performance differences just because the gpu is grossly overkill.

On the ally x handheld I noticed better performance with dx12 but that may just be related to framegen working better with dx12 than vulkan in general.

[thick notch]

Hi i just switch to cachyOS and wanted to play poe. are there anything I need to configure before I play the game?

[analog phoenix]

you dont, usually

[little pagoda]

all i do is is this:

game-performance %command% --nologo --waitforpreload

[thick notch]

it's actually quite smooth, very few lag here and there

[thick notch]

oh cool thanks

[chrome vector]

PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 works for most of my games, but not for PoE2 if set to dx12.
It works with Vulkan, but then performance is a tad worse

[neat breach]

anyone know why awakened poe doesnt actually show an overlay or interact with poe whatsoever on bazzite?

[midnight marten]

anyone get HDR to work in linux? The box is always greyed out for me :/

[shell elm]

Nope, always greyed out

[fading topaz]

I would assume you'd have to a) be on a recent Wayland compositor that has implemented the protocol for it, and b) have a version of Wine (proton) that is supporting it too (might just need to be running native Wayland)

[strong forum]

can i download standalone for linux or should i just wirte to support to migrate my acc to steam?

[fading topaz]

You can use either

[halcyon moat]

You can download standalone anytime

You can also log in the website with username+password then with steam and bind them together afaik

[jovial meteor]

lmao, it works like a charm, i'm running with those steam args :

PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1 PROTON_LOCAL_SHADER_CACHE=1 PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 MLFG_UPGRADE=1 PROTON_FSR4_UPGRADE=1 mangohud %command%

and i'm running DX12 not vulkan because of low perf (-15%)

running 9950X3D with 9070XT

[jovial meteor]

HDR is working with PROTON_ENABLE_HDR=1 but cost is 5-15% less FPS

[halcyon moat]

How does Vulkan give lower performance on AMD GPUs I wonder

Btw Vulkan gives higher quality overall visuals than DX12

[jovial meteor]

issue with POE2 not vulkan itself, same low perf on W11

running best since 0.4 with DX12 instead of vulkan

[halcyon moat]

If you guys care much about FPS then use Exclusive Full screen straight-out

[jovial meteor]

does'nt matter

[halcyon moat]

weird

[jovial meteor]

windowed full screen or exclusive is the same

[halcyon moat]

They should not on Wayland afaik

[jovial meteor]

which distro are u using ? and which DE ?

running fine with KDE

[halcyon moat]

I don't have any problems as well, just trying to solve others' problems

[halcyon moat]

Seems like they are beta testing new stuff in poe2 just like they did in poe1 few years ago

people did not like it, messed up with the performance a lot

I mean if you are gonna test something at least announce it to the public if not making a separate beta branch

forcefully making player base to test your stuff without being aware is a shady move

[halcyon moat]

Not everyone paid for keys

Old PoE1 players got keys for their loyalty to the game

I played on PoE1 beta too, it was not like poe2

if they made a mistake or got negative results from a change they made, they used to revert it back or fix it quickly

but they let players experience that negativity for several leagues nowadays

Do you remember performance problems that happened during Ritual & Ultimatum days?

It is because they have slammed the new rendering backend they were developing for PoE2 over PoE1 without prior user notice to test how it performs on real world scenarios

What happened? Players couldn't play and many forced to leave the game because of being it unplayable

[halcyon moat]

Guess how many leagues it took for them to profile the performance problems and fix the bottlenecks

2 years

Half of the old team is gone and it's going downhill in my personal opinion after Chris and Bex left

Tencent should not be ever involved in this...

Their player support is mostly AI as well

Just like their chat moderation

I still remember the days we had actual chat moderators on Global channels

I still have some of the old folk in my in game friend list, they play from time to time

This game lives in our memories

[shell elm]

does anyone else sometimes get windowed fullscreen rendering at the background rate, and you have to resize it as a window and then back again a few times for it to render at the foreground fps?

[midnight marten]

What version of proton are you using? Also are you using wayland and hyprland perchance?

[halcyon moat]

Just counting yourself (a single person) as everybody gives out your intelligence level, arguing with you would be waste of time for sane humans

Guy's 70% of the past messages are arguments about LD_PRELOAD and stash tab sales, I doubt he is even able to make any normal sane convo without counting himself as everybody to get a higher spot in his arguments

Just a random brainwashed twitter dude

[next relic]

does the FSR4 upgrade actually work for you?? i can't seem to make that work for me

[warped pond]

Been playing maybe 8-9 hours today, now getting a bunch of crashes

Tried deleting the pfx and letting steam rebuild, still crashing

Do you guys use Vulkan? Been using DX12 for the past few days without issues

[fading topaz]

It's a toss up which people use. Seems to vary what's best depending on GPU, drivers, etc.

[warped pond]

It's actually nearly straight up unplayable (poe 2 btw), is up for maybe 5-10 mins, then crashes

:/

[fading topaz]

This through Steam?

[warped pond]

Ye

[fading topaz]

Can you try the instructions from the most recent pinned comment?

[warped pond]

Hmm, fps drops weren't really my issue, actually really good performance 😅 I had the game open for 8-9 hours yesterday, no issues, not had issues in a few days, then it randomly starts crashing.

This could be when I try and put smth in my stash, or open the atlas map, just wandering around maps. Nothing definitive. Started on penitentiary boss tho.

The only thing that worked was nuking the pfx and just letting it rebuild.

I'm now on Vulkan with no issues

I was on DX12 with no issues for a few days

[fossil frost]

It won't work, it needs FSR 3.1 in-game to hook into.

[next relic]

yeah i learned afterwards the game did not get 3.1 lmao.
unfortunate...

[fossil frost]

Optiscaler can hook into XeSS or DLSS -> FSR4, if I had a RDNA card I'd definitely do that. Big gains.

[shell elm]

hilarious, I tracked down a game FPS slowdown to leaving kcalc the calculator app running in kde

[halcyon moat]

kde apps are always the weirdest ones in my opinion, even their android apps lag like hell on high end devices

They remind me of visual basic era apps, even Fortran apps like PeaZip are much much faster than KDE apps

They should be giving extra care to create the most underperforming apps of the linux scene

[elfin furnace]

anecdote for those searching in the future: cachyOS + lutris has worked really well for me coming from other distros. almost everything just worked (vrr / gsync, etc). if you're migrating make sure you read and do what it says https://wiki.cachyos.org/configuration/gaming/

[spring cairn]

is there a way to get awakened poe trade run on arch with hyprland & wayland? overlay just won't appear even with setting launch options to run under x11

[strong kraken]

I just run it in the browser with --no-overlay

[spring cairn]

after some looking at issue opened on APT's repo for hyperland I managed to get APT at least show up but the thing is that it was getting all inputs to itself and only mouse worked in poe, and price check still wouldn't show up when I pressed keybind. I wonder if its that bad on wayland... Heard that it got a lot of problems with games & apps

[spring cairn]

thanks, i'll try that 👍🏻 I wonder how bad it is to actually use it this way. also, does keybinds works good for quick commands like /hideout and stuff?

[strong kraken]

idts

[spring cairn]

managed to make APT display somehow correctly. it still thinks that waybar is there when POE in fullscreen windowed mode and because of that there some miss aligns. it actually works for FIRST TIME you price check and then history repeats, PoE just lose all input from keyboard :/

[halcyon moat]

I assume the app has broken "if focused" check for the PoE window or sth?

[spring cairn]

After a bit more scrolling thru APT's issues and testing things from them I managed to get it to work.
Im on CashyOS (arch), using wayland & hyprland.
What I did:

1. installed awakened-poe-trade-git not bin! to have latest changes from repo
   -# rn when installing you need to modify PKGBUILD and bump node version to 22 or higher or set it to "node" to make it use "latest" (I hope contributors will fix this eventually)
   -# I did that with yay -S awakened-poe-trade-git --editmenu command.
2. copy APT's .desktop to ~/.local/share/applications and add --ozone-platform=x11 to Exec.

I have some preconfigured setup by some other dude and its came a bit "riced" so my tiles have blur and etc. and I had to add some windowrule to make APT's transparent. Or you can just copy rules from this comment

As for PoE itself I use proton-cashyos and have ENABLED_PROTON_WAYLAND=1 in launch options and thats it.

Main issue as far as I can tell from all of those github issues was in some packages and owner/contributors needed to bump their version to the working ones. Before bump you would manually bump it updating PKGBUILD but now its not necessary because needed packages already bumped. But if APT will stop working again I suggest you to look at this first
I hope this will help someone o7

[halcyon moat]

Good thinking

[steady summit]

Hey! I've been having an issue for as long as I've swapped to linux (arch btw), whenever I have a kinda high density of mobs (for example breach+other mech), my fps completly drop and I get insane cpu lag according to the graph, which makes it completly unplayable and I have to restart the game and leave the area. The rest of the time the game runs perfectly well. Has anyone had such an error ? For context I'm on an amd gpu, with an x3d proc and playing through Steam. When I played on windows with the exact same setup I never experienced such a thing

[abstract coyote]

did you try adjusting the Launch Options

__GL_SHADER_DISK_CACHE_SIZE=100000000000 %COMMAND%

might be running out of cache

[halcyon moat]

arch btw 🤣

[halcyon moat]

does your shader bar goes to full during that time?

or disk?

if just CPU alone, do you have multi threading enabled?

[outer pagoda]

so... is this an indicator of a faulty driver, faulty game code, or a faulty gpu?

started this morning, two hard gpu crashes, rest of the system is unaffected

screen just freezes, cant go to tty or anything

the devcoredump folder doesn't exist

[steady summit]

Hi ! sorry for the late answer, was away for the weekend.
I tried what you suggested @abstract coyote but it didn't appear to change anything. The biggest improvement came from entirely switching from Vulkan to DX12, I have much better overall performance but still some random crashes that I can't really explain, I'll try to dig further whenever it happens

[halcyon moat]

does it also happen on in game vulkan? or just with dx12?

I wonder if page fault happens in GPU memory or system memory

[halcyon moat]

try to manually create that folder

wonder why it doesn't exist in the first place

[cold cloak]

for path of building 1 & 2 version (rust ) with pacman. i us temporary for POE2 wine.( POE2 rust dont take fate of vaal)

[halcyon moat]

@cold cloak Are you a human being?

[shell elm]

lol

[normal cape]

https://tenor.com/view/midnight-the-cat-stopped-working-midnight-the-cat-cat-cat-meme-funny-cat-gif-81113296414293415

[jovial meteor]

works great with proton-GE-10-29, cachyos with eevdf kernel (not bore one) , sched_ext_lavd 🙂

[shell elm]

Sometimes windowed fullscreen screws up and leaves my plasma taskbar visible - when that happens I can run exiled exchange without it blanking my fullscreen

hilarious, capitalise on a bug

that usually happens when my windowed session is full screen sized but slightly offset and then I switch to windowed fullscreen, so I think I can recreate it regularly

[jovial meteor]

do u use enable_wayland arg ?

[shell elm]

I'm on xorg

wayland drops my fps by 35%

[outer pagoda]

trying to play with vulkan was unusably laggy (100+ms frametimes on the gpu), so i was forced to use dx12

still happening using liquorix kernel and latest upstream ubuntu mesa, switching to kisak again now and gonna try again

hoping the bug that caused insane memory leaks with liquorix+kisak is patched 🙃

seems like vulkan is failing to init vram?

[outer pagoda]

still happens on stock kernel/vulkan/llvm drivers :x

[patent fern]

n/a there suggests that with your Vulkan environment it may not be able to correctly query for things like VRAM sizes or budget allocations.

[outer pagoda]

seems like upgrading from mint 21.0 to 22.3 is giving me a lot of strife 😅

the game isnt printing any vulkan/drm errors that i can see in syslog, havent checked game logs yet

momentarily fucked my system hard by deleting the builtin amd drivers or something, hooray for timeshift

does anything here stand out as pointing to the environment being broken? just starting the game, switching from dx12 to vulkan and back then closing it

[patent fern]

This is horribly wrong:

2026/02/05 20:33:35 114497 e9bcbea2 [INFO Client 332] [VULKAN] GPU type: IntegratedGpu

[outer pagoda]

that much i can tell you, yes

its plugged into the dp-0 on the rx6700xt and has that one selected ingame

i'll check in poe2 if it's still fried

all normal here

[patent fern]

What GPU type does PoE2 say it sees?

[outer pagoda]

i'll try deleting production_config.ini ig?

poe2 log

checked launch params, which were ENABLE_VKBASALT=1 LD_PRELOAD="" __GL_SHADER_DISK_CACHE_SIZE=100000000000 %command% and removing them didnt change anything

[outer pagoda]

no change, still boots disc as i

i dont appear to have any grub cmdlines that affect the gpu

[patent fern]

As PoE1 and PoE2 have different release cycles, the engine of one may be a bit older than the other.

So it's a bit apples vs. oranges.

[outer pagoda]

yeah

this is a new problem since phrecia2 i think

[patent fern]

Judging by the logs there, PoE2 may be newer as it shows the (AMD) bit for the GPU type.

[outer pagoda]

its entirely possible i have misconfigured packages given i updated distro version while having kisak, lunarg, and liquorix all installed

but for poe2 to still work normal is kinda weird

i've noticed other graphical artifacts in terraria but thats about it, no other issues in ue5 games like nrftw

[outer pagoda]

downgrading from lunarg seems to have fixed those :x

[patent fern]

I think the crux here is that the selected device is reported as being an IntegratedGpu and all the choices the application makes from there on based on that property may be detrimental.

[outer pagoda]

@patent fern its a bug in proton experimental

switched back to 9.0-4 and it Just Works™

will see later if it still causes ring timeouts on this

now the maven beams arent loading, how fun

they reappeared when i went back in, so prob a caching/loading for first time issue?

[patent fern]

[round sedge]

I'm having a problem with Awakened POE Trade - I launch the .appimage (Debian stock, but I've run into this on PopOS and Bazzite) and nothing ever pops up, and PoE becomes nonresponsive until I kill Awakened PoE Trade. Looks like some kind of window focus issue to me.

[analog phoenix]

are you using wayland or x11?

[round sedge]

Wayland

Found this under legacy x11 stuff.

Looks good, but I assume that's the issue?

(Also with that info I found https://github.com/SnosMe/awakened-poe-trade/issues/1384, I'll give it a shot.)

[analog phoenix]

yea it broke some time ago on wayland. starting it with forced xwayland and sandboxing in electron works great so far.
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11 "Awakened-PoE-Trade.AppImage" --sandbox

[round sedge]

Yep, that worked. Thanks!

[sour shale]

Hello gents. I want to swap to Linux as my main OS for my first time, due Microsoft bloating their OS

I was previously using W11 Enterprise, but I decided that it is time to give Linux a full chance

The question is, which distro do you gents recommend?

[strong kraken]

What do you intend to use it for? Just gaming?

[sour shale]

Gaming 80% of time, maybe watching stuff and doing some excel on it. (I have my work computer for the rest)

I heard that you can't play games with kernel protection and that's fine.

[strong kraken]

The three main gaming-focused ones are Nobara, CachyOS, and Bazzite. If you want something relatively simpler then I recommend Nobara, if you want something more technical and customizable then I recommend CachyOS, and if you want something similar to the Steam Deck then I recommend Bazzite.

If you have the time, I recommend you play around in the live environment a bit before installing them as well.

if you want to jump into the deep end with Linux then go for a manual Arch install

[sour shale]

A gentleman in general recommended me cachyos with kde

[strong kraken]

yeah that's a good option. I'm biased in favor of KDE over GNOME as well.

[sour shale]

Alright. I asked here because I wasn't sure how Poe works on Linux and if I get driver support on my nvidia

[strong kraken]

PoE1 and 2 definitely work on Linux, although sometimes it has performance issues (from what I've heard, Windows also sometimes has performance issues, so nothing new there). Nvidia has long "worked" on Linux, but it's gotten especially good in recent times, so you don't need to worry about that anymore (especially not on the gaming-focused distros like the three I listed above).

[sour shale]

Perfect

I have some minimal experience of using mint in a VM

But I am willing to learn, just because Microsoft is annoying me with their adware

And since path of exile is my main game, it is my main worry lol

[fair pivot]

yeah path of exile works perfectly on linux

zero issues

i said earlier but awakened poe trade is a bit finnicky and can be a little annoying, but it does support and work on linux

[sour shale]

A bit finnicky as in ... not starting or?

[fair pivot]

no just like

weird with how it windows

hard to explain

sometimes it can be hard to click on

and things like that

it can fight with your window manager or desktop environment i guess

its more problematic if youre using a less normal environment like i am, with a tiling window manager and etc

[sour shale]

ah, I see

Alright.

Thanks guys. I will back up my data and proceed with install linux

[fair pivot]

good luck

[sour shale]

The last straw was windows installing games on the last updates

Games that i previously uninstalled

Silly question but what is the equivalence of .exe on linux

Probably I could google this

[strong kraken]

Usually executables on Linux don't have extensions

But, if you're curious, the file format is called ELF (executable and linkable format).

[sour shale]

I plan to use rufus to make a bootable usb, are these settings also compatible with linux, in terms ofpartition ?

[strong kraken]

Should be fine. I recommend changing the label to something like "CachyOS Linux" just so you remember which distro it is.

[strong kraken]

Linux tends to be more "extension-agnostic" in that programs often look at the actual file contents to detect the file type, rather than at the extension in the filename. The extension is instead meant as a hint to the user.

[sour shale]

I see, good to know

Sorry if my questions are uneducated, I could have googled.

[strong kraken]

No worries. It's better to have and ask these questions than to work off incorrect assumptions.

[sour shale]

After 20 years of windows, everything will feel new.

Oh, Cachyos is Arch

[strong kraken]

It is Arch-based (like SteamOS), but it removes the need for manual install/configuration.

Which is most of the difficulty.

If you want something that's, in theory, more stable (in practice I'm not sure if there's much difference), you can try Nobara, which is based on Fedora instead of Arch. CachyOS started with people trying to port Nobara's improvements to Arch.

[sour shale]

umm I think I messed something

it doesn't work

when I select it

[strong kraken]

What happens when you select it?

[sour shale]

Goes blank for 3 seconds and shows me the same menu

[strong kraken]

Strange. Did you disable secure boot?

[sour shale]

No

[strong kraken]

Try doing that then. There's a way to re-enable it (depending on your hardware) after you've installed the OS, if you want.

[sour shale]

yeah it is on

[strong kraken]

There exist those who say Microsoft pushed for the existence of Secure Boot so they could make it harder to install Linux.

[sour shale]

Disabled it, let's try again

I feel like I vaal orbed my OS

I saw a line with welcome to cachyos

It's working

What, it installed in 10 seconds

Sorry for pinging but ext4 or btrfs? @strong kraken

I went with btrfs

[sour shale]

-# This was easier than I thought it would be

[strong kraken]

Oh sry I wasn't on my phone. Both are fine. I personally run btrfs, and it is more feature-rich, but ext4 is older and therefore more tested.

[sour shale]

Starting poe right as we speak

I got so many questions

it works and it is beautiful

[sour shale]

It is a lot to learn, but Linux runs smooth so I am glad that I made the transition

[halcyon moat]

it's live iso as you can read

[halcyon moat]

from here

live boot = runs from your RAM without install

everything is temporary unless you explicitly save them to your disk

[sour shale]

Yeah, I figured it out during the process, very smooth experience, very nice.

10/10

[outer pagoda]

typically they'll be labelled as .x86_64, but yeah ELFs can be any format, all that matters really is if the file has the "executable" permission

some games natively will package as .x86_64, like from unity/godot that ive seen, others will just be the filename without an extension

[sour shale]

Bois helping me install linux

[normal cape]

can anyone help me insatll awakened poe

[sour shale]

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/awakened-poe-trade-git

I use this for cachyos

[sour shale]

unrelated, but wow, cachyos can run a ray tracing game on a gpu without ray tracing

I didn't even knew it was possible.

[halcyon moat]

gpu ray tracing doesn't allow you to do ray trace

you can do it with CPU as well

or any gpu

how do you think CGI in movies were being made before rtx shit was even a thing?

it's just "ray tracing accelerator"

[sour shale]

[sour shale]

~/.steam/root/steamapps/compatdata/238960/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/My Documents/My Games/Path of Exile/ here is the filter location for my fellow new linux enjoyers

I'm having some trouble with awakened poe trade, when I open it it asks me to enter some shortcuts and then I can't click anything on the screen

I can't do anything until I close the awakened poe

[normal cape]

node.js update?

[sour shale]

I was struggling with that too and In the end I just got the one from the official start and running it into gearlevel

tested it in browser mode

[normal cape]

gearlevel is so fucked

lever

i tried it

it launches

but then it overlays and doesnt allow any presses

untill i alt f4

have you ran into this?

[sour shale]

disable the overlay, for that, I'm testing a fix tho from another reddit

--no-overlay

[normal cape]

how do i do that?

perfect

ctrl+d still works?

[sour shale]

nope

[normal cape]

so how do i use it

[sour shale]

you have to use ctrl c ctrl v

cachyos user here and after some digging this is what I found to be the easiest solution.

The issue is something about how wayland programs can't overlay? I'm not a huge buff for this but basically you have to tell the program to run in x11.

If you have awakened poe downloaded to your downloads folder. Right click it then under permissions hit "allow run as executable"

Then I open terminal and I run " Downloads/./Awakened-PoE-Trade-3.27.105.AppImage --ozone-platform=x11 " (replace with your version of awakened poe or file path)

Finally, it has said for me that it cannot find "FUSE" but FUSE3 is installed on cachyos? So I installed fuse 2 and it went away.

Hope this helps someone

[normal cape]

ah fawk

[sour shale]

here is the fix, i'm just too new to linux to understand it lmao

this part

[normal cape]

brah thats to long

where do i do the no overlay bit

[sour shale]

wait dude

i think i got it

it fucking works

YEEEEEES

[normal cape]

using awakened poe?

[sour shale]

yeah

[normal cape]

you got any desk 🥹

?

[sour shale]

wait it is easy

[normal cape]

using app image?

[sour shale]

using gearlever

enter this in the command the arguments

[normal cape]

how do i get to that

[sour shale]

--ozone-platform=x11

[sour shale]

did you download gearlever?

[normal cape]

have had it, just never used it

move app to menu

understood

[sour shale]

maybe try updating gearlever?

mine has more things

[normal cape]

i love you

ty

holy easy

[sour shale]

Let me write a mini guide for it and then we can ask a mod to pin it

@strong kraken actually helped me with it, so he is the king

[strong kraken]

might be good to include what desktop environment/wayland compositor you are using, since whether it works might vary depending on that

iirc i had issues with --ozone-platform=x11 on hyprland when i tried it a while ago

[normal cape]

1. download awakened_poe_trade.appimage
   2.download gear lever
   3.package type = awakened_poe_trade.appimage
   4.code line arguments = --ozone-platform=x11

smth like that

[sour shale]

Cachyos with KDE (Linux-arch)

How to get Awakened Poe Trade to work like on Windows:

Step 1: Install Gearlever: https://flathub.org/en/apps/it.mijorus.gearlever
Step 2: Download awakened poe trade: https://snosme.github.io/awakened-poe-trade/download
Step 3: Drag the AppImage in Gearlever
Step 4: Use --ozone-platform=x11 in parameters like this

My linux bois, we are not moving back to windows with this one

[normal cape]

can voice mods pin?

i was litterally about to go to windows

but then this saved my life

so happy

[sour shale]

What I learned in 3 days of linux is that linux can do everything, you just need to know how to do it lol

[normal cape]

make sure to include cachyos/linux arch for the bricks

[normal cape]

been using linux for a year its simple af

worse then windows 10000%

cooler then windows 10000%

[sour shale]

I would tag a mod, but I don't know which, yet I want to preserve this solution

[normal cape]

i mean ill @ the cool mods ig

do you think voice mods can pin?

[sour shale]

I have no idea haha

[normal cape]

welp

[sour shale]

But yeah, this solution saved me

[normal cape]

@acoustic mirage

will make modmail aswell

[sour shale]

There, updated the guide to include everything

so people can install easily

[normal cape]

this is great

linux will beat windows eventually

[sour shale]

i was afraid to use it, but it was easy to get into it

i'm all ready for 3.28

~/.steam/root/steamapps/compatdata/238960/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/My Documents/My Games/Path of Exile/ here is the filter location for my fellow new linux enjoyers

[acoustic mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[sour shale]

Please pin the mini guide above

[acoustic mirage]

I presume that was the right one

[sour shale]

Yes, thank you

[acoustic mirage]

[sour shale]

We eating like kings tonight

[acoustic mirage]

Your 2025 pin budget has been used

[normal cape]

great, we are in 2026 🙂

[sour shale]

we didn't have one used in 2025, so it makes sense that we could redeem it now

[acoustic mirage]

DO NOT REDEEM

https://tenor.com/view/kitboga-frustrated-i-give-up-critical-information-cat-gif-16475512

[violet frost]

might be time to switch back to linux

[patent fern]

Surely 2026 will be the Year of the Linux Desktop.

[polar spruce]

surely

[sour shale]

Poe works, discord works, Poe awakened trade works, what you need more

[halcyon moat]

wait until an update breaks your system just like windows

seriously if everything works fine, never update unless you do want to spend time looking for a solution after a broken update

this is valid for any OS

[jolly star]

Never update is weird advice

[craggy pendant]

I just update on the weekends usually so if anything is off I have spare time to take care of it.
But then again not all OSes have the privilege of choosing when to apply updates 😎

[patent fern]

I update whenever I remember machines exist, at which point they will inevitably have reached some unholy update that require manual intervention and a bajillion keyrings.

(on arch btw)

[halcyon moat]

Well, this happened after using Master/Nightly/Canary builds of everything my entire life

After some moment you realise overall coding quality degrades with each year passing

+add AI into this

and sooner or later you realize that old good code is actually better than getting 2 bugs fixed and 8 bugs introduced

[halcyon moat]

this is my guy

Why I can't react to posts btw?

[halcyon moat]

It worked now, used to say "insufficient permission", hmm

[halcyon moat]

elaborate why it's bad if you are presenting a counterbelief

and then belittling people on the second part of your sentence, huh?

[strong kraken]

it's fine to update packages frequently if you're on a supposedly stable distro like fedora (not that there will be frequent package updates available). if you're on a rolling release like arch, updating is still almost always fine, but maybe don't do it if you have an important deadline within a day or so. also I recommend checking the news/subscribing to the news mailing list so you're aware if/when manual intervention is necessary

I don't think I've ever had an arch package update actually break my stuff, but there are certainly often cases where manual intervention is necessary

I have had issues with AUR packages after updates though, which makes sense since at one point I had about 100 -git packages installed

[halcyon moat]

They are mostly fine except these situations in my opinion:

1. A package you had gets deprecated and it gets replaced by another package, breaking stuff in your system during migration.
2. You have not initiated a system wide upgrade for more than 6 months, so you are risking to get a system wide failure. (Upgrading after one year or more is like guaranteed to failure to boot.)
3. If you are using BtrFS with LUKS enabled, you are risking a failure to boot with every kernel update, grub update, or cryptsetup update.

So it's either you continuously update or you do not update at all in my opinion. There's no middle in the Linux.

[halcyon moat]

I myself, gave up on updating after using bleeding edge versions for my entire life as I said earlier.

It is up to the person to do it or not to do it. I can not force them. It is their computer. Just do not be a Twitter idiot like this guy.

[strong kraken]

i've been using btrfs with luks for years and i've never had boot issues despite sticking to the latest kernel rather than lts

I do agree with the 6 months thing though. waiting too long for an update is worse than updating too frequently

[halcyon moat]

Maybe it's my bad luck, had numerous issues like grub.cfg being changed back to defaults after an update thus removing boot entries, or volume doesn't get decrypted during boot with random various reasons

[strong kraken]

oh yeah i've been on systemd-boot all that time

[halcyon moat]

systemd boot hmm

I was using non systemd distros all the time

[strong kraken]

which ones?

[halcyon moat]

used Garuda for some time

[strong kraken]

garuda is a non-systemd distro? I thought it was just arch slop

[halcyon moat]

Then used cachy as well

[strong kraken]

cachy is definitely a systemd distro

[halcyon moat]

Modified versions of them

they have non systemd flavours as well

I like Void a lot but always causes microcode problems on my devices

[strong kraken]

are they official? i've talked to the cachy people before and never heard them mention that.

[halcyon moat]

The one I like the most is EasyOS

[strong kraken]

i don't think arch has officially supported non-systemd for ages

[halcyon moat]

from the former puppy dev

[strong kraken]

"EasyOS / An experimental Linux distribution" tbf you kinda had it coming lol

[halcyon moat]

there are non systemd arch distros

[strong kraken]

unofficial ones

[halcyon moat]

I think that obarun distro was arch too, wasn't it?

yes it was

just checked it

it works well tho

[strong kraken]

well, clearly not that well if you're running into the issues you described before

i mean i think these distros are fun, but you have to know what you're in for

[halcyon moat]

We are not sure if they are caused by replacement of systemd

[quasi thunder]

Hello everyone!
I've recently switched from Windows to Linux, and I'm unsure which method to choose. On one hand, I have the Steam client, and on the other, there's the Heroic Games Launcher. I haven't done much research yet.
Currently, I use the Steam client for all my gaming needs, but I'm experiencing some issues. It frequently crashes, and sometimes the game freezes at 0 FPS. When I try to log out, it gets stuck on the character selection screen. Although the animations still work, the game completely freezes, and the only way to escape is by logging out completely. (Had 0 problems on windows system)
Should I give Heroic Games Launcher a try, or are there other options I should consider?

[strong kraken]

HGL likely won't help this (other than in the sense that a fresh install might fix it). You can try using something like https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom

[quasi thunder]

I just think to take windows installer and install it via HGL xD

At least I fix thing that: when i change keyboard layout buttons dose not work (was ibus)

Thx, will try it out

[quasi thunder]

Linux Mint 22.3 , On windows 0 crush and stable gameplay. PoE1, I install it via steam, and performance is not good, random game crush (no msg, just freez and close)

[glacial coral]

As of now Linux is better than windows for POE2

[glacial coral]

https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom

try ge proton

also linux mint isnt good for gaming

CachyOS or Nobara or Bazzite are better

https://www.protondb.com/app/238960

also try some tinker steps, launch options!
especially with nvidia cards

[quasi thunder]

not on nvidia card, but ok, i just think its something with league at start. But, most of the time it was ritual - game just start slowing until it freeze (but fps is ok with ping). Im not playing games at all, last 10 years i play only PoE, and nfs xD

[sleek lodge]

Kind of sounds like an out of memory issue. Do you have some sort of swap set up?

You're saying the game starts playing fine, then eventually slows down and halts?

[outer pagoda]

as mentioned above, this isnt really a thing

i tried bazzite for some stuff and i found it far more annoying to deal with since it does its best to fulfill dependencies with flatpaks, but being an immutable distro it makes playing with driver packages an absolute pain in the ass

whereas if i have a problem in mint i can just go fix it without needing to reboot to try every change

[quasi thunder]

Nah, can be even on start, i have radeon card

64Gb ram, OS: Linux Mint 22.3 x86_64 Kernel: 6.17.0-14-generic, I use Vulkan in PoE.

i'm just not sure what info you need 😭

[quasi thunder]

I just installed the game using HGL, and it runs even better than on Windows. I believe the solution is Proton, since HGL includes Ge Proton. Thanks to everyone for their help! I will continue using the HGL option because I prefer it, especially since Steam can sometimes experience downtimes and other issues

HGL is not against GGG rules, correct?

[strong kraken]

that would be extremely unlikely. btw you can use proton-ge on steam if you just install it manually (or use something like protonup-qt to install it for you)

[sleek lodge]

GE-Proton isn't always going to be the solution FYI, but glad it worked out in this case.

[glacial coral]

yeah i dont like baztzite either. Cachy is way better.

I dont like Linux Mint for updates, because

my problem with mint is that afaik kernel is odler than on many other distributions

[glacial coral]

yeah, but it can fix soem stuff

[glacial coral]

and i dont have wayland in linux mint

at least not as standard

[glacial coral]

tbh i dont know what HGL is

[strong kraken]

heroic games launcher

[glacial coral]

but why should it be against GGGs Rules?

[strong kraken]

I think they just want to be safe

[halcyon moat]

Is dxvk-async still falsely triggering PoE's anticheat?

Did they fix the false positive?

Has anybody been using recently?

[quasi thunder]

I was banned a few years ago because of that, which is why I asked. However, I got my account back after a lot of conversations with the support team.

[halcyon moat]

How did you manage to get into a lot of conversations after their "only one chance to appeal" policy?

[quasi thunder]

It was back when we use poe acquisition that itsyoji talks about. Back then it was email thing, and not via website

Yes, I'm and old man 😄

[patent fern]

There's always some universal risk when using alternate platforms or otherwise affecting how any game with an online component runs.

Back in the 00s when I beta tested Cedega and moderated the IRC channel, WoW was the big bugbear as it was one of the dominant live service games with active anticheat efforts.

We had one instance when all players on Linux got banned, TransGaming had to work with Blizzard to recognize the problem and even had a custom form Cedega users could use to submit a ban appeal for that particular incident.

We got a lot of actual cheaters that tried to social engineer their way to an unban on IRC, some easily identified by their complete lack of knowledge about what Linux even was.

[patent fern]

The PoE Developer Docs touches on different categories of third party tools and mentions which ToU sections are relevant.
While not tools per se, anything that hooks or detours the client may look quite sus.
Notable cases that players have posted to blame when banned are things like OptiScaler, ReShade and the "ultrawide fix", but the amount of truth in such posts tends to be... varying.

Everything that isn't a native client on Linux and macOS is going to look some amount of weird to any program that looks deep enough.

All this is my personal reflections, not any official stance in any way.

[halcyon moat]

lol these people

Thanks for sharing valuable insights Zao

[patent fern]

Off to a good start

Straight up defaults to 640x480 over VGA, maxes out at 1024x768.

[strong kraken]

idk why but VGA is really funny to me for some reason

[patent fern]

Got an old HP EliteDesk I inherited off my previous job that I install OSes on every now and then to have as a minspec machine for my own code.

It has VGA and two DP connectors, one of which can speak HDMI.
My ancient secondary monitor has VGA and DVI 😄

[gray birch]

Anybody got various autohotkey tools working on Linux? I haven't tried Awakened POE Trade yet but I did try ExileUI and haven't gotten it working so far

[fading topaz]

Awakened PoE Trade works. What kind of automation are you looking to do though?

[gray birch]

Ok, good to know Awakened trade works. Hoping to get ExileUI working as well by league launch, it's very useful for the first character of a new league

[ancient gorge]

Any hyprland users here have experience figuring out how to get pob to be fullscreened when using wine?

[minor pollen]

are you on x11 or wayland?

[fading topaz]

I've had it work on both

[polar spruce]

Not an answer to your question but you could try rusty pob instead https://github.com/meehl/rusty-path-of-building

[minor pollen]

doesn't seem to work on my machine

[fading topaz]

On Wayland?

[minor pollen]

yeah, Niri specfically

[fading topaz]

Oh. I haven't tried on Niri yet (not sure how well it will work there), but you have to pass in a launch option to get it working

[minor pollen]

I did try --ozone-platform=x11

doesn't seem to do anything

[fading topaz]

Well it definitely launches, but you're right that it doesn't seem to do much (open in browser works fine)

I suspect this is a Niri issue

It likely doesn't support overlays, for one

[minor pollen]

I know it uses x11satellite

which is not the case in most other window managers

I can't open it in the browser either. do I just pass -no-overlay or do I need something else as well?

[fading topaz]

If you have tray icons, you can right-click on it to open it there

[minor pollen]

oh there we go

[gray birch]

I still haven't messed with awakened poe trade yet, been spending a lot of time trying to get ExileUI to work. I've been putting comments in here in case anyone wants to take a look https://github.com/Lailloken/Exile-UI/issues/446

[cold cloak]

i try but league 0.3 not fate of vaal with rust

[opaque snow]

no idea why but this channel was hidden for me...

so what is the preferred way to install PoB these days? I used to do Lutris

[gray birch]

use rusty path of building

someone linked it not that long ago in here

[opaque snow]

this is why i'm tired of people recommending Mint. It's a stabe distro, ergo not good for gaming or programming and too many people think it's good just because it's easy to install and has a gui package manager and everyone has been recommending it forever since it dethroned Ubuntu for most installed for awhile. And tbh that just isn't good enough. Arch isn't even that hard to install if you use the install script and you have an AMD system (proprietary drivers for team Green is well, a pain in the ass.). Now, i can't speak for Bazzite but i have been on Arch before, and Cachy seems like it's less hassle with equal or better performance. I learned Linux on Nobara. Can't recommend it, but it IS performant and plug and play.

[polar spruce]

https://github.com/meehl/rusty-path-of-building try this

[opaque snow]

thanks i'll bookmark that

it's on AUR - perfect.

i'll add it to my package list.

also i love that it's using Rust

[polar spruce]

it runs incredibly well for me

also works for poe2 if you play that

[opaque snow]

i do on occasion though i am less interested in that until it's at least fully released. poe 1 is just too polished with too much to do and poe2 by comparison isn't my jam yet. but it is quite fun and promising

[quasi thunder]

I was using debian for 4 years, and I like it, and was on arch for a half year, but had problems with microphone and some other thing. At that time, was a lot of work, and PC was just to chill. But i get what you want to say.

[opaque snow]

I have Debian on my laptop. Stable has its uses. When I need a system that works 100% of the time barring hardware failure, I use Debian. Love it.

[gloomy nebula]

Hello, I've got an issue, I have PoB Community installed through Lutris, and it was working great, until the middle of last league where (I guess an update?) made it throw an error when I try to open it.
I tried to uninstall and reinstall it, but it didn't change anything, so I'm wondering how I could fix that, if anyone has an idea
Here's the error:

SimpleGraphic v2.5-1389b1f x64 Release, built Nov 19 2025

Executing SimpleGraphic/SimpleGraphic.cfg
Warning: config file not found
Executing SimpleGraphic/SimpleGraphicAuto.cfg
Warning: config file not found
Executing S:games/path-of-building/Launch.cfg
Warning: config file not found

--- UI Init ---
Script: S:games/path-of-building/Launch.lua
Script working directory: S:games/path-of-building
Initialising Lua...
Running script...
Could not create window, EGL: Failed to initialize EGL: EGL is not or could not be initialized

--- ERROR ---
Critical error at address F9B98065h:
Access violation: attempted to write to address 00000028h

[fading topaz]

^^^^

[gloomy nebula]

Thanks, that seems to work nicely! Nice that it's native and runs much faster too

[craggy pendant]

it feels like a big upgrade for sure

[patent fern]

Kind of intentionally made by the author to provide a pobfrontend-like experience on non-Windows platforms.

I want to rip out ANGLE from PoB proper some day as it's a chonker of a dependency, but that means swapping the render API out for something like D3D 11.1.

Got a bit on the way already, but it's a pain to change code that mutates GL state piecemeal into D3D11's cleaner API.
It's also fun to deal with things like how the shading language Really Doesn't Like selecting samplers with anything but constant expressions. Arrays of textures are largerly fine to index, but heaven forbid if you want to select a sampler by vertex attribute before D3D12 ^_^

[outer pagoda]

then people dog on vulkan like you dont have to reinvent the wheel in every other render pipeline

[halcyon moat]

Zao have you thought about migrating to Skia or another multi platform graphic library rather than maintaining graphic API support separately for each platform

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/4629

There's some interesting talk here

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/12539

also here

check this out as well:

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/pull/5041

[halcyon moat]

they did replace angle with that commit

Their old dx9 implementation:

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/video/out/opengl/context_dxinterop.c

[patent fern]

Did some experiments with Skia for text rendering, kind of interesting but didn't fit in well overall.
For general accelerated 2D rendering, they tend to want some rather specific types of backends that doesn't fit PoB's minimum requirements.

Also, it's even bigger of a dependency than just ANGLE, and it's extremely underdocumented.

My goals with the experiment I've got right now is to make the build slimmer (due to CI reasons), less complicated for something like Proton and Wine to translate, while still keeping minspec low to not lose users that could previously run the project.

Vulkan and similar DX12-era APIs have a way higher minspec in hardware and drivers, and is honestly way too much fiddling with details than I ever want to learn.
My brain caps out on DX11.

[halcyon moat]

GloriousEgroll is a good developer but I do not understand why he decided to put Brave spyware into Nobara isos for some hot bucks

[halcyon moat]

Didn't you have a native Linux for PoBCF fork back in time? Was it someone else? Old times, can't remember much...

There was also a Chinese fork too for Tencent servers but went unmaintained

[patent fern]

That was one of the driving forces of my initial SimpleGraphic v2 update.
Ported away all Win32-specific stuff and dropped OpenGL 1.1, using modern C++ with GLFW3 and ANGLE from vcpkg instead.

The runtime built on Windows, Linux and macOS.

It, however, required a fair bit of additional work to figure out how to update on each platform, avoid writing to install directory, deployment in general, frontend UI, platform integrations for specific things like opening URLs and stuff, etc.

The remaining 90% of the work 😄

Ultimately, it's a large responsibility to support additional platforms, especially if you don't have developers that daily-drive them.

[halcyon moat]

Yes DX12 support is weird, despite Win10 adding support for DX12, older GPUs which has 11.1 support level as the maximum performs much worse on dx12 games

I believe windows somehow translates 12 to 11 for the drivers

[patent fern]

As there's viable alternatives rising like Rusty PoB now, there's even less point in having a multi-platform runtime if there's only one platform.

[halcyon moat]

it's still 11 but worse performance I believe? Not sure although

[halcyon moat]

Yes I was one of the first testers of the SimpleGraphicV2, it had window scaling problems, later fixed on

[patent fern]

So anyway, I'm noodling in my free time on whether I can shake the first party runtime up a bit and do some of the things I've wanted to fix lately.

[halcyon moat]

Intel based GPUs because of buggy drivers

[patent fern]

GitHub CI is forcing my hand, making ANGLE very inconvenient.

A clean build of PoB's runtime takes something like 30 minutes as it needs to compile a bunch of dependencies from source.

[halcyon moat]

Haven't heard that Rusty, let me check it out

[patent fern]

We used to cache the binary artifacts from vcpkg via GitHub actions, which worked fairly well.
GH decided that the way they cached them was highly undesired and politely told vcpkg to stop.

So now all my builds are essentially clean builds as the old caching doesn't work and if I want to cache things again, I'd have to manually figure out what on earth to cache and with what keys.

[patent fern]

https://github.com/meehl/rusty-path-of-building

Rust impl of the PoB runtime for hippie OSes with wgpu, pretty much.

[halcyon moat]

Oh yes, looks like someone took the maintenance chore

[patent fern]

Mostly works.

[halcyon moat]

Why do people still use the regular one over wine then

[patent fern]

Nice thing about it is that it's freshly made and the author is a bit easier to get hold of when things change.

[halcyon moat]

This Rusty sounds much better

[patent fern]

pobfrontend has good inertia by being in AUR and the macOS packaging.

Rusty came into existence just before the holidays.

[halcyon moat]

I think you can use different repos each set with separate action runs to cache things

Let me show you an example repo

[patent fern]

As for running through Wine - that lets you use the first party PoB as it comes out with very few problems.

[halcyon moat]

https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible

[patent fern]

I'm sure it's possible to do in some way, but I really don't want to deal with anything CI.

ANGLE is also stretching the boundaries of what's possible to cache as their artifacts are huge.

[halcyon moat]

Each are binary blobs auto compiled with latest commit within their own repo, then used on other repos

idk how to do it tho

just know it's possible

this way you don't have to wait for a long time to compile everything at once, you will already have them ready in hand

[halcyon moat]

Ah wait these may not be blobs themselves, I have mistaken

There was a workflow recipe to use artefacts from other repos during building

That was the method

I mistargeted you in the first place, my bad

https://github.com/actions/download-artifact?tab=readme-ov-file#download-artifacts-from-other-workflow-runs-or-repositories

Yes this was how to do it, I remembered now

Apologize my lack of sleep :)

[halcyon moat]

if it's webgpu then it means it's multiplatform, doesn't it?

can't be switched as the main backend? This would open the way for full browser support too

Lua can be compiled to wasm

people can open full pob within their steam browser

would be pog

[patent fern]

Doesn't currently build on Windows, author devs on Linux I think.

And it still has the problem of raising minspec. There's people running PoB on machines that can't run the game, every little bit you raise the system requirements you alienate some previously fine users.

ANGLE and D3D11 are pretty much the lowest capabilities you can run while still having things like BC7 textures, that raised the spec floor a fair bit.

Even just going up to feature level 11_1 would lose several generations of GPUs.

11_1 over 11_0 would lose:
NV cards from 400 series up through 700 series - some mobile chips in 900 and 10 lost too;
AMD cards from HD 5000 up through HD 6000 series - supported in anything GCN or RDNA;
Intel Gen7 (Ivy Bridge).

[halcyon moat]

Apple is planning to ditch out Apple OpenGL support completely from what I heard

[patent fern]

It'd be quite a surprise if your laptop on a 10 series NV mobile chip suddenly couldn't run PoB.

[halcyon moat]

Minecraft is adding Vulkan and Metal backend as well

[halcyon moat]

That is also true

But it may actually reduce the requirements as well because of aot compilation of Lua to WASM

Would need a benchmark

By reducing requirements I mean smoothness & rendering FPS wise

[halcyon moat]

Oh that reminded me of my friend who still plays poe1 on a good old GTX 980

You are right, I agree from your perspective and I support you. I love the kind of developers who prioritize compatibility and refrain from taking away things from the people. I still use an old android version and hate when developers increase minsdk level for their apps and drop old version support for no apparent reason.

As such a person I highly respect you.

[patent fern]

If you're really doomed, there's also the pob.cool website.

[halcyon moat]

Zao look what I've found:

https://github.com/mmozeiko/build-angle

[halcyon moat]

Oh I totally forgot it exists

[halcyon moat]

doesn't work on my phone sadly, fails to get webgl context despite webgl being enabled and available

maybe Rusty's more modern and lower level webgpu implementation would work

[halcyon moat]

I actually got an idea, I just checked the available web skill trees

poedb skill tree seems to be the best one, it's html5, smooth and doesn't require webgl

works even in ancient browsers

what if I use pob's calculation and lua mechanism to wasm and combine with poedb'w skill tree

poe.cool's website runs lua converted to js, so very slow and clunky together with webgl

but my method has the possibility for great multi platform support and being buttery smooth

hmm I just got something new to work on

Thank you Zao for giving me the idea

ditch webgl and webgpu, HTML5 canvas is the best

[ancient gorge]

@sinful flare maybe better to chat over here on topic

you on x11 or wayland?

[sinful flare]

had this channel hidden, thanks

So I'm on Wayland (Fedora KDE 43). I installed the AppImage via Gear Lever and have APT running and in my taskbar. However, I'm not able to bring it up in PoE.

APT itself is working, if I right click it on the taskbar or whatever you want to call it on Linux, it gives me an option to pop it open in the browser and that works, so I can interact with it that way, kinda

[ancient gorge]

if you run it via the command line does it print any interesting logs that might indicate something is wrong?

[sinful flare]

Frankly I'm not certain how to do that as I only just picked up Linux like two days ago with only a small amount of prior experience, how do I open an appimage in terminal? Just like ./{appimagename}

?

yeah that worked, one sec

full output

[dawn furnace]

when you try using ctrl alt d to interact with it what actually happens

[sinful flare]

the top pin literally has instructions on this, let me see if that works

I'll try what you said first though

[sinful flare]

nothing at all

it's just not picking up the keypresses or something

[dawn furnace]

sounds like the wayland issue then and you just do the start in x11/xwayland :p

[sinful flare]

yeah I'm adding "--ozone-platform=x11 " now

Still not getting anything, let me see if running via terminal shows anything new

I think the most annoying thing about KDE to me vs Windows so far is that when I press the meta key and start typing to search, if I press enter too fast it opens whatever the top result prior to filtering was

so I just searched "term" and it opened fuckin steam

lmao

[dawn furnace]

ctrl alt t

should be default open term

[sinful flare]

no difference

[dawn furnace]

youd have to add it to the end of that since its not going thru gear level if you use terminal

[sinful flare]

ah yeah that's true

Does not work in game presently, just double checked

[dawn furnace]

are you in full screen i guess? or windowed full screen

[sinful flare]

windowed fullscreen

if it matters I'm running via proton-ge, not gamescope

[dawn furnace]

per chance do you have it open in your browser well trying this

because ive just learned that causes to overlay to not overlay over the game

[sinful flare]

no

xlsclients also confirms that apt is running under x11 so that's not the issue

[dawn furnace]

uh the way i read that your steams running on a different xserver and that might be why its not working

[sinful flare]

Steam running on x11 or xwayland or whatever is normal to my knowledge

or well if it was xwayland it wouldn't show up here I think

the game is running via proton-ge which should be wayland

[dawn furnace]

unless youve specifically told it to run under native wayland it should be using xwayland

[sinful flare]

I have told it to run under native wayland

so that's looking like a possibility

[dawn furnace]

yeah native wayland and overlays are very iffy

i hadnt even considered that as a possibility

[sinful flare]

off to an excellent start here as poe is refusing to render over my taskbar

everything is pushed up and it just reduced the vertical resolution instead

but yes it works

This appears to be (permanently?) fixed by setting the game to windowed and then back to borderless

[dawn furnace]

ive had it happen anytime the game crashes for the past few weeks

[sinful flare]

Is there any possible way to get APT to work while using Wayland, or I suppose some other price checker that works with it? I'm getting a small FPS bump from forcing Wayland via PROTON_FORCE_WAYLAND=1, and the game is feeling smoother overall besides.

I'd really really like to run it under Wayland if possible, doubly so because I'm going to run into this exact issue for PoE2 with Exiled Exchange 2, where I'll definitely want to be using Wayland for HDR support

[sinful flare]

Wondering if anyone else can corroborate these findings and has a workaround.

So in testing I've found that:

1. Wayland feels more smooth than x11, and Wayland has an up-front FPS boost of around 15FPS in DX12. x11 can sort of make back the lost FPS via running Vulkan instead of DirectX12, but it seems to have some wild FPS swings in either direction for some reason just sitting in Lioneye's Watch A1; like walking back and forth will make me fluctuate between 70 FPS and 200 FPS. DirectX12 is a bit better off but has like 80 FPS variance instead. These are short enough that MangoHUD isn't updating fast enough to catch them, I need to see them via the game's own FPS display. Not sure how that'll pan out in gameplay. Wayland on the other hand is extremely stable with a 10-15 FPS variance while moving around in a circle.

2. Vulkan doesn't work on Wayland at all, the game black screens on boot and freezes up when switched while in-game. It's DirectX12 or nothing.

3. x11 has like a 50/50 chance of resizing the windowed borderless mode to accomodate for my taskbar, which looks like this image. I can fix it by setting the game to windowed mode and back to borderless windowed which takes like five seconds, but it's irritating as hell.

I would really, really like to use x11 so I can use APT, but it's looking like the game isn't really playable in x11 for me unless I'm missing something major.

If it helps at all, I'm using an Nvidia GPU.

Yeah I just tried some brief mud flats gameplay in x11 and the FPS swings are just not it

I think I need to try this with another version of Proton to see if it runs better, I'm currently using the latest version of Proton-GE. Or maybe adding gamemoderun to my launch options would help. I'll try that later. Need to get some sleep for now.

[craggy pendant]

I run poe1 on nvidia gpu and x11 and I don't encounter the 3rd issue. However I also have a window rule to force focus stealing prevention on extreme level and I confine the game to run in a second virtual desktop, not sure if that's what affects it.

[sinful flare]

Out of curiosity do you experience these drops? If not, what renderer are you using, and what version of Proton + launch args?

[craggy pendant]

I run it on Vulkan and Proton 10.0-4 with no launch args. I've read your posts but I'm not sure what exact drops you mean - just ones during regular gameplay? When I walk around in mud flats and fight roas I have stable 135-144, 144 being my enforced upper limit.

as for methodology I used the in-game fps counter that you get from F1 keypresses

[sinful flare]

Literally just walking from like the stash in lioneyes watch act 1 to tarkleigh and back I was getting those drops

Actual gameplay wasn’t much better

Didn’t happen in wayland

I’ll give that version of proton a try when I hop on later, thanks

[sleek lodge]

Installing from source fixed any issue I had with APT.

I'm on arch/hyprland.

[sinful flare]

I'll give this a look, but I'm not sure how applicable it is to me since I'm using whatever KDE uses, not hyprland

[sinful flare]

To clarify though this is letting you use APT while running the game on Wayland?

[sleek lodge]

Yes, hyprland is a compositor that uses wayland. I have no x11 at all.

[sinful flare]

Right but Fedora doesn't come with x11 nowadays either, but Proton runs games on x11 via xwayland unless you specify for the game to use Wayland with PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1

Are you doing that or just not passing any launch options?

At least that's my understanding, I may be wrong.

[sleek lodge]

I do not have x11

These are my launch commands in steam

LD_PRELOAD="" %command% --nologo

[sinful flare]

just to make sure can you do me a favor

launch poe via your normal method, whichever works with APT, then open a terminal and run xwininfo

then click on the poe window

if poe is running in native wayland then this won't do anything

[sleek lodge]

JFC, I'm not running it via x11

[sinful flare]

I'm sorry if I'm being an ass about this, what I'm saying is that Proton by default runs applications through xwayland

this is regardless of if you are using x11 or wayland for your DE

you can force wayland with PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 in the game's launch properties

but otherwise it is using xwayland

I'll look more into this later, but @craggy pendant I just wanted to let you know that I switched the Proton version to 10.0-4 with no launch args and am running on DX12 right now and it's boosted me to 220-240 capped in quick tests in coast/mud flats, with drops to like 160 while killing shit with my somewhat intensive build. I think you saved me here lol

I am seeing some wider FPS swings in lioneye's watch but not nearly as dramatic as before, so we'll see what happens

vulkan runs with somewhat lower framerates in town but is more consistent it seems like. DX12 was swinging from 160-200-ish, vulkan is swinging from 160-180 at most and is generally more "reasonable" I guess in that it's less extreme

either of these hit 240 cap in the coast

Aonther question, I discovered Rusty Path of Building scrolling up in the chat. I installed it from flathub, however when I start it, it hangs on this and doesn't progress. I've left it like this for a good while now.

Any thoughts?

[sinful flare]

Went ahead and posted an issue here https://github.com/meehl/rusty-path-of-building/issues/29

[halcyon moat]

check the log file

[jolly star]

Does it work as overlay or still just browser?

[sinful flare]

Hangs here:

[2026-03-05T19:25:22Z WARN rusty_path_of_building::clipboard] Failed to create arboard clipboard: Unknown error while interacting with the clipboard: X11 server connection timed out because it was unreachable
[2026-03-05T19:25:22Z WARN wgpu_hal::vulkan::instance] Unable to find extension: VK_EXT_physical_device_drm

[halcyon moat]

hmmmmm, better attach this to your GitHub issue

I couldn't get the cause

[sleek lodge]

Got mine working as overlay.

There apparently is some bug in the rendering engine that is fixed in source, but not pushed out yet.

[jolly star]

Thanks, it works! Its gonna make this league so much better

[astral blade]

The game just updated, and now it's at 1 FPS and the video card isn't showing up anymore. I opened the game before the update and it was normal. What can I do? Zorin OS 18

[edgy sierra]

For some reason it's falling back to Mesa's CPU vulkan implementation, is any other game affected?

[astral blade]

That's very strange, I do the same thing in other games too.

[edgy sierra]

Yeah something's gone hinky with your vulkan driver then. Have you tried rebooting yet? If Zorin does automatic updates in the background that could cause strangeness.

[astral blade]

I restarted my computer and the game took a long time to load. But the video card and frame rate returned to normal, and I installed GameMode and Proton Experimental; I don't know if that's the best option.

@edgy sierra Thank you for giving me a direction to follow.

[round sedge]

Debian Trixie, latest updates, KDE Plasma, Wayland: I've got Awakened POE Trade runniing, but for whatever reason while it takes mouse input, keyboard input (including cut 'n paste) does not work. Any suggestions?

My launch command is XDG_SESSION_TYPE=X11 ./"Awakened-PoE-Trade-3.27.106.AppImage" --sandbox

[left veldt]

Anyone using a different overlay than Awaken Poe?

[astral blade]

I also had a problem with Wayland, and I switched the session to x11 and it worked, but I'm using Zorion OS 18. I don't know how to do it on your system.

I didn't have time to switch distributions, so I'll have to use Zorin until I complete the challanges :/

[left veldt]

what other distros did you like for gaming? Im using Nobara but i have heard of good things of cachyos

and zorin but havent tried either

[astral blade]

I saw something about Bazzite, Cache OS, and another one whose name I don't remember.

But there are a lot of distros for games.

[round sedge]

Hell, even the basic ones can be good - I'm sure if I just switched to X11 from Wayland my problem would go away, and I'm on Debian Trixie.

[astral blade]

I'm not sure. You can test it after you finish the acts, so as not to interfere with the start of the league.

[astral blade]

I have to use x11 because Wayland doesn't allow using globally enabled key combinations in Zorin.

[craggy pendant]

I just like going for a generic OS that has good support, you can make those work well for gaming

[marsh kite]

Hello, anyone got issue for the new season on wayland? It seem that I cannot start my game while it was fine yesterday

[astral blade]

@round sedge I saw some people using it on the 'awk' git repository. --ozone-platform=x11

[astral blade]

I checked the game integrity and restarted the PC.

Try checking for system updates before restarting.

[marsh kite]

alr im trying check file integrity and restart

if it aint working ill just go on windows

[supple roost]

MangoHud shits on game or is it my machine problem? I am getting "Deadlock detected" error when launching the game with MANGOHUD=1

[astral blade]

Steam?

[supple roost]

No standalone

[astral blade]

in game launch options if steam: mangohud %command%

[round sedge]

No dice

[astral blade]

Add MANGOHUD=1 to your shell profile vulkan only. That's all it says on GitHub.

[astral blade]

😓

[marsh kite]

fixed it, I forgot I used dbus-run-session to run anything aparently

[astral blade]

Nice

[round sedge]

Should be fine, the price check stuff should still work, and that’s all I really care about.

[astral blade]

Yes. But if a bug occurs, the only solution I know that worked for me is to change the session from Wayland to x11 in the user selection. Then you do 'echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE', it should show x11, and then the hotkeys should work correctly.

[round sedge]

Yeah, if I lose my queue spot I might switch.

[astral blade]

Good luck to everyone!

[hearty lark]

Was having issues for a while trying to get in, tried a fresh install, full deleting of the file directory and whatnot, verified integrity of files multiple times, tried every different proton version, no dice whatsoever.
Turns out it was lossless scaling's frame gen crashing me, so if anyone's still having crashing issues just after the grinding gear games logo and you're using LSFG, turn it off and it should work

On steam deck at least*

[raven canyon]

Mirages crashing anyone else?

I click the instance and get an unexpected disconnect

[jolly cipher]

Multiple ppl in my guild are getting crashes just loading up the mechanic (not even interacting with it), apparently.

[raven canyon]

im on windows now guys....

pray for me

😭

i just wanna play poe

[cedar jacinth]

so sad, I got the error reported on PoE 1 news, and now cannot even enter the game

[raven canyon]

windows doesnt recognize my gpu for poe

fml

slopOS

[patent fern]

Mar 07, 2026 9:20 AM (GMT+13) - The Apprentice Magus Tome Hip Attachment has been temporarily disabled while we work on a proper fix for the issue.

[ashen trout]

i cant enter riverway wtf

[astral blade]

I've lost count of how many times it crashes when trying to access cities. 😢

[odd crater]

Awakened poe trade still completely broken on Linux wayland. Does anyone even test it before they upload it? I dont get it.

Its been like this for atleast 8 months

You open it and you cant interact with the game at all, wont let you click anything.

Annoying

[sleek lodge]

I had to compile from source, there's a bug in the rendering engine that is fixed in the source, but not pushed out.

[brisk geode]

you have to launch it in x11 mode, then it works just fine and has been the entire time

[odd crater]

/home/user/Downloads/Awakened-PoE-Trade-3.27.106.AppImage --ozone-platform=x11

You mean this? Slightly improves it, now I can actually play the game and ctlr+D stuff. Still its mostly broken, I cant mouse over the menus and toggle any clickboxes.
So irritating everytime I try to play PoE on linux I have the headache of messing with this janky program for hours.

How do I make it work properly?

This finally fixed it

[warped pond]

Anyone getting random crashes with GE 10-21 prefix?

[brisk geode]

Yeah, i just add XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11 in menueditor and has been working just fine

[frosty acorn]

anyone having issues opening the price checker in awakened trade?

i can open the stuff like settings window but i cannot open the price checker

[ivory delta]

experienced this yesterday. for me it was system keybinds blocking control+d

[full plover]

What trade tool do you recommend? I am using Bazzite Wayland. Not sure if that makes any difference.

[brisk geode]

Awakened poe trade is the best

[ashen elbow]

Anyone else having problems with gpu crash while playing these 2 days

Im running Fedora 43 KDE Plasma 6.6.2

I thought it was cooler control at first so i remove it

then it happened with lact as well so i was like hmm maybe the overclocking not done right

so i reset but then it happened to again

[dusty aurora]

Not sure if related but I was having gpu crashes on the latest mesa drivers on arch (rx 6600). Reverting to older version fixed it

[ashen elbow]

Hmmmm weird im on stable versions as well

Thing is it happens only on poe1

No other game even when stress testing

[dusty aurora]

yeah my crashes were random like that, could be idling on hideout and it would page fault out of nowhere

[ashen elbow]

nah mine would crash my whole pc

cuz it would reset the gpu

so i would have to force shutdown

and then next one after i removed coler control it just ruined the look of everything

lemme show u the vid i took of it

[dusty aurora]

same,

the mesa package had a major version leap so I suspected it was the culprit and it was

[ashen elbow]

This is when i removed cooler control and used the lact one for the fans

It didnt straight up make my pc dead but basically ruined everything in a way

[dusty aurora]

damn that's weird

[ashen elbow]

Thing is its not like it happens instantly when i open the game

Game could work fine for 10min-30min or even more