linux-🐧

[thin viper]

Any kind person want to give me a car?

[light oasis]

followed you on twitch !

[opaque snow]

#1 global top seller on Steam now too.

[pearl gale]

welp im in game

works smoothly

[keen slate]

You can buy it on steam with no issues?

[craggy pendant]

has anyone got issues with random people joining you in party?

goign over the limit of 6?

[austere belfry]

Hahahaha I have one

[austere belfry]

How??their website is still down

[keen slate]

Yeah I can't claim the key unless website is up

[pearl gale]

I was spamming the login button until it went through. I must have had a small moment where the site was up and it managed to register my EA. My account on the site now shows EA also

got to the first town, put on my support pack armor skins and such, and got to level 3. Good enough for the night

[dull oriole]

Anyone leaking memory?

It worked for about 10-15 minutes then got increasingly choppy. Right now I'm sitting at queue cause it was unplayable and had to exit, and even just sitting in queue memory is leaking.

Fri Dec  6 03:56:31 PM MST 2024
28820471 1075166 549168 2 0 682182 0
Fri Dec  6 03:58:31 PM MST 2024
28825113 1079675 553776 2 0 682250 0
Fri Dec  6 03:59:01 PM MST 2024
28826137 1080922 554784 2 0 682213 0

[pearl gale]

https://xcancel.com/pathofexile/status/1865161690175934581#m for those getting EA access error

[plush hornet]

the graphic looks a bit weird in linux, character model not sharp

[plush hornet]

it looks better than this, could be related to my monitor being large, 27 inch

[swift vapor]

looks like downscaling

[thin viper]

It is

Lowest graphics possible

Sometimes it becomes hard to actually see

[swift vapor]

ouch xD

[thin viper]

play at a lower native resolution
Such as

Couldnt get any better performance results with other options

Yeah, this is why I upscale

[unreal kiln]

Weird issue: can't use a different GPU on linux without disabling the overlay.

not sure exactly what's breaking here but it seems like a proton bug specific to PoE2

also the game will not update the game window in fullscreen

1080ti. Weird setup though, because my primary gpu is a shitty rx560

using __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia __VK_LAYER_NV_optimus=NVIDIA_only VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/nvidia_icd.json %command% to launch the game. This basically gets games running via nvidia optimus smoothly on wayland.

yeah actually I can barely get it to launch properly on nvidia at all. Seems like 90% of launches just immediately hang

[covert galleon]

Posting here for anyone else needing the fix thats working for me. POE2 Only.

1. Go here.

...SteamLibrary/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/My Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/

2. In that folder will be a file titled

"poe2_production_Config.ini"

3. Open that file and place this at the bottom.

renderer_type=DirectX12```

Paste it EXACTLY HOW IT IS, save and reboot.

Playing rn with no issues. Hope this helps someone else!

Tested on

Garuda/Arch/Endeavor and this allowed all 3 machines to play without issue.

These machines are Wayland + Nvidia. One is a team red, but it worked just fine. Hope this helps!

[unreal kiln]

you weren't able to use the direct vulkan renderer?

what went wrong when you tried to use vulkan? Right now I can only get my RX560 to load the game.

[covert galleon]

Vulkan caused a crash immediately. black screen and no changes.

Doing what i put there fixed it. Even if you change to Vulkan inside of the game it crashes and makes a horrible noise in your ears lol.

Yep. Im on Nvidia + Wayland rn and no issues with DX. Vulkan chooses violence

[plush hornet]

is this normal poe2 graphics?

[swift vapor]

Managed to get vulkan + nvidia working in a wayland session.
setup: Arch / kde plasma 6 / latest nvidia
running the standalone game in flatpak lutris with runner 'wine-tkg-valve-exp-bleeding-9.0.141056.20241206-327-x86_64.pkg'

if you run the wine instance it self in wayland mode vulkan works, performance is about the same as dx12 tho.

to enable wayland mode in wine you have to open wine registry and add a new string value at 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Drivers'

Name it 'Graphics' and set the value 'x11,wayland'.

Then configure the game in lutris go to 'system options' and scroll down to 'environment variables' and add a new key 'DISPLAY' and leave the value field empty.

//Edits
Wine 10 .0 rc1 also works via wayland, DLSS seems to work with this version
https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/commit/4161e62e478f61fdcd0365d9bd7b21e3b1a5197b/pipelines

Hope this helped someone!

[balmy pasture]

intel arc a750 @3440x1440
fsr dynamic res ultra performance
60fps

[next tapir]

hi guys, what Proton version do you play on?

[keen ridge]

2024/12/07 00:03:21 84013515 ff73624f [CRIT Client 204] No collision callback set! MoveTo was not called before setting up line sweeper. Metadata/Characters/Int/IntFourb 2024/12/07 00:03:21 84013515 ff73624f [CRIT Client 204] No collision callback set! MoveTo was not called before setting up line sweeper. Metadata/Characters/Int/IntFourb 2024/12/07 00:03:23 84015737 d5a32775 [CRIT Client 204] Failed to decompress (corrupted data) 2024/12/07 00:03:23 84015769 d5a32775 [CRIT Client 204] Failed to decompress (corrupted data)

Lutris, Linux Mint current... Made a portal to town and clicked on it and now this everytime, any ideas?

[swift vapor]

Try switching wine version, just for the sake of trying 😛

Also clear all caches you can find... not at the computer atm so no handy links

[keen ridge]

So I made a mercenary- Got up to going into the village again... Same thing.... So I checked which versions of WINE Lutris would let me use and Proton Experimental was one of them. I switched to that, and now my witch can log into the town so I assume that fixed it. So if anyone else complains about Lutris (not likely) your suggestion of switching to a different WINE version will probably help (though as I was writing this message with it in the background it crashed again but hey, at least it loaded this time.)

[covert galleon]

GE-20 rn. Working as intended.

[keen ridge]

I am only using Lutris because of the lack of Steam keys last night and I couldn't force steam to use the standalone so far

[next tapir]

I had a black screen on 9.20 with my NVIDIA dgpu. Only 7.xx worked. Trying now to install the game via Lutris.

[covert galleon]

I posted a fix above that solved that issue for me. Adding the

renderer_type=DirectX12```

to the poe2_production_config.ini

That fixed that black screen issue across the board for me. 🙂

[swift vapor]

Wish you best of luck, time to sleep, a bit late here in eu 🙂 back in 6h ish

[next tapir]

Good, I can confirm this is working. Thanks.

[covert galleon]

No problem dude. Pass it on if you see anyone who needs help.

[plush hornet]

You have image quality option. It doesn't exist for me

[next tapir]

You need to change Upscale Mode to FSR first.

[pine kayak]

I gave up and went to bed.

Which key opens the tab with all the menus on one page, like map, inventory, etc. on PC?

[next tapir]

I couldn't find any in keybindings menu.

[pine kayak]

Saw it in a yt video and I cannot find it… total noob what I am

[next tapir]

maybe it's a macro with keyboard? just to push multiple keys at once

[craggy shuttle]

Why the hell do I have less than half of fps I had yesterday 😭

[cursive pier]

Anyone managed to fix the error:
no collision callback set?

[swift vapor]

Try the native wayland version of wine i mentioned above, didnt really get more fps, but it was smoother / less random stutter... Has to be wine 9.0+, its experimental so newer = better 😛

[craggy shuttle]

Hate to admit, but 2 reboots fixed my issue 😄 Also am using protonGE 9-20

But thanks anyway ❤️

[swift vapor]

Standard xD

[willow breach]

was anyone able to get the game to ignore vsync ? mine is allways at 60fps

[grave summit]

i getting 123FP at 4k

[willow breach]

which distro are you using ? driver ? any particular configuration ?

[jolly star]

I set mine to dynamic and getting 70-80 iirc

[primal zephyr]

Is there a steamdeck channel or is this the place ?

[next tapir]

no issues here, 120fps manually limited

VSync by default - Adaptive

[signal dawn]

Anyone else getting choppy frames after 30-40 minutes of gameplay?

Looking at the client logs I see the following

2024/12/07 15:46:35 12066722 93b1a151 [CRIT Client 288] [RENDER] Shader uses incorrect vertex layout (expecting 0x28)

I'm on steam and tried it with different versions of proton: Proton 9.0-3, Proton Experimental, GE-Proton9-20
Also tried it with DirectX 12, and Vulkan

Before the error I get somewhere between 100-120 FPS, but after that error pops they go to 70 and it becomes really choppy.

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (32) @ 5.08 GHz
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT

[primal zephyr]

Does anyone have good steamdeck settings to get the most of it ?

[next tapir]

I do experience frame drops, a little bit but still. Time to time micro freeze on my beefy pc. Tried Lutris and Steam GE-Prodon all versions, no luck. It was ok, before the latest patch....

[swift vapor]

running wayland?

[signal dawn]

xorg

[reef stone]

same. not sure if it's linux or everyone

[swift vapor]

try setting env VKD3D_CONFIG=no_upload_hvv in lutris

[next tapir]

yes, I'm on wayland and I do see an error in logs: [drm] Fence fallback timer expired on ring gfx_0.1.0

trying to google this,,, now

[swift vapor]

if you're on wayland i strongly recommend you to test the native wayland version of wine. Its supported on all 9.0+ builds. kinda took me by surprice... Got zero issues, great performance been playing all day on wine 10.0rc1 that released yesterday.

howto:
#linux-🐧 message

[next tapir]

I have a feeling that Kernel 6.12.3 is jerking with my AMD igpu, I going to try few other kernels and if not luck, I will try your suggestion with wine 10.0rc .

somehow we have a queue to login... lol

[swift vapor]

server crashed ~5 mins ago 😛

[next tapir]

wow, it seems no issues... I've just changed the kernel to normal cachyos 6.12.3 and 0 lags so far, sorry wine 10.0rc, next time 😄

[fresh jacinth]

What is sad and not logical is I cant play PoE 1 because of a vulkan issue on Debian but I can run PoE 2 np.

[keen ridge]

PoE1 is great on my Linux system until you get to maps and do Breaches or Blights

then it and the video device are no longer on speaking terms randomly

[fresh jacinth]

Could play any map with any FX but then the update came for Kulgar or what ever and it started giving vulkan issues.

[fresh jacinth]

I expect PoE2 to do this at some point

[keen ridge]

Would be nice if they had like a poe2 bug reporting ticket thing here where we could dump our client logs after crashes

[fresh jacinth]

This isnt a offical PoE Discord.
More like a fan based discord

[keen ridge]

I looked on the forums too and they don't have it there either ;p

So even if it was official I doubt they'd have one

[round ridge]

anyone else get really long loding screens randomly and have to restart

[next tapir]

nope

[rich citrus]

I have not, the game has been pretty flawless since the website went back up yesterday.

[stray fulcrum]

Can't start the game in steam deck. After writing the character name, if I press A it will ask the name again and repeat.

Never actually starts the campaign

[dull oriole]

Hey all, is it possible to use a Controller with the keyboard at the same time in POE2? The controller feels great for gameplay, but I don't like it at all for anything else. I couldn't even figure out how to assign a skill gem in my inventory after about 5 minutes I gave up.

Ideally I would use the Controller to play the game, for combat etc, no real modification to UI is needed or desired. I just want to map movement and the spells. Then the mouse and keyboard for every other aspect of the game. I think this would help with some RSI / pain I been getting in my fingers / hands lately too.

[cerulean jasper]

They said this will be implemented in the future

[chilly tide]

its a bug for all platforms and i think only if you are in a party

[dawn crescent]

anyone getting random stuttering?

[brave seal]

It's almost the same, wasd is nice when fighting, but when theres no killing do do it's annoying.

[pliant violet]

anyone managed to get HDR work in Linux through Steam? it works with standalone launcher through Heroic

[rose quiver]

yeep. I tried proton-9.xx and experimental thru steam and couldnt get a fix there. switched to standalone launcher running thru lutris (on wine-ge-8.26 i think) and the stuttering is mostly gone.

[unborn scaffold]

You’re picking an already used name

[unborn scaffold]

@stray fulcrum it’ll say in small ‘name already exists’ and you’re likely just not seeing it

[clever matrix]

Anyone got any ideas on how to fix a performance issue that crept up overnight? I went from 100+ fps to 20 fps, and my whole system is stuttering while the game is running. On EndeavourOS with Nvidia 3080. I've tried every single thing i could find.
lmk what info you need.

[craggy pendant]

are you in a new zone that might have not been shader pre-cached yet?

[clever matrix]

No, it is not shadercache related. I get around 20-25 fps anywhere (including the login screen) with a very jaggy framegraph. I can sit in the login screen for 10 minutes, nothing changes. I did a full system upgrade to try and fix this, so i'm on the latest everything.

I tried every proton version, i tried gamescope, i tried dx11, dx12, vulkan (black screen on boot), i tried bleeding edge proton experimental. I tried any random combination of ingame settings.
It worked fine not 24 hours ago.

Temps are fine. GPU reports 100% usage (at 150watts instead of the regular 290) while being 60C. CPU is snoozing.
F1 overlay in PoE shows that GPU is jumping around 40-60ms.

[craggy pendant]

what does the framegraph show exactly? you can read if it's shader, ram, cpu, etc from it

[clever matrix]

i can get you an image if you want, hang on

here's both for good measure.

[craggy pendant]

this is from the login screen?

[clever matrix]

Yes. Where i got fps cap 120fps yesterday with 70% gpu usage.

[craggy pendant]

hmm yeah the only off value really is the GPU time, like you had mentioned before

[clever matrix]

If it helps, i got the problem once yesterday morning ONCE, but i then rebooted and it was fixed. This doesn't work anymore. I've rebooted 10 times.

Other games work absolutely fine.

[craggy pendant]

right now I have no idea what it could be then. Which compatibility layer are you using?

[clever matrix]

Right now i'm on Proton 9.0.3, but have tried proton 8, experimental, bleeding edge and hotfix.
I should mention i'm running it through steam.

[ebon crystal]

I haven't checked log, but after a couple of hours of play, my CPU latency shoots through the roof. And the FPS drops real low.
AMD Ryzen 3600X and RTX 4070

[dawn crescent]

guys, i fix my stuttering problems by switching from a wireless connection to a cable one

everything is butter smooth now

[keen ridge]

yeah actually, framerate is tied to your connection if you have the sync option on

poe1 helped me diagnose that my house's electrical wasn't grounded at the meter any more

[keen ridge]

yeah I dunno what happened to the grounding rod. the wire was just hanging freely from the bottom. I dug around where it could be connected to and there was nothing so I had to pound a new one in.

[keen ridge]

and that actually did magically fix the signal issues at the modem

(well cablemodem is grounded to the same wire as the house electric too)

[outer pagoda]

add LD_PRELOAD="" %command% to your launch options

cpu jumping to 50ms is a steam replay bug

[thin viper]

Every single time

[naive osprey]

Im currently only have early access for poe2 with the non steam launcher which I run with bottles, everything worked really good.
Now I updated my nvidia drivers and Im getting this error message lul (Is it possible already to play the game via steam?)

fsync: up and running.
00dc:err:kerberos:kerberos_LsaApInitializePackage no Kerberos support, expect problems
info:  Game: PathOfExile.exe
info:  DXVK: v2.3.1
info:  Vulkan: Found vkGetInstanceProcAddr in winevulkan.dll @ 0x6ffffd42d660
info:  Built-in extension providers:
info:    Win32 WSI
info:    OpenVR
info:    OpenXR
info:  OpenVR: could not open registry key, status 2
info:  OpenVR: Failed to locate module
00dc:err:openxr:get_vulkan_extensions Could not create key, status 0x2.
warn:  OpenXR: Unable to get required Vulkan instance extensions size
info:  Required Vulkan extension VK_KHR_surface not supported
err:   DxvkInstance: Required instance extensions not supported

I may should try downgrading drivers

[swift vapor]

launch the game in DX12 mode, can also try to restart the PC.

[naive osprey]

I rebooted my pc 2 times with "restart", and thought this could not be the issue. Now i turned it off completly and restarted and this fixed it

wth

[balmy pasture]

new poe2 guild = Linux User Group

[silk oracle]

Thinking of getting the game, I use steam deck, what do I need to do? Or is it as simple as download it?

[flint laurel]

Unsure about performance of game on steamdeck hardware but my experience has been hit play and it works.

[silk oracle]

It says it's not supported, I would like to hear from at least 1 person who has tried it

[jolly star]

Tried it, was as easy as hitting download and then play. It didnt look great out of the box, someone said it can be improved by messing a little bit with settings, i didnt touch that though so cant say for sure

Can check tomorrow if nobody else responds if you want

[silk oracle]

Thanks, ill listen to some content on YouTube while at work. Then I may give it a shot

[ebon crystal]

I am considering trying on my Ryzen 4650GE mini PC with integrated graphics. This sounds promising. Would the game be stable at 30 FPS at medium graphics on the Steam Deck? Because that would be my minimum requirements playing on the TV.

[ebon crystal]

Worked like a charm! Thank you 🫶

[placid trench]

I was having really high MS spikes across the board and i used that + disabling replay on steam and its running way better, TYSM sir

[outer pagoda]

you should do it in in pretty much any steam game

its a really annoying bug with steam replay where it gets loaded even while disabled

[placid trench]

im assuming that preload thing has something todo with shader complilation?

explains the ms spikes

[ebon crystal]

I didn't have the problem in Satisfactory. But I will keep it in mind

[placid trench]

also same, ive never had the frame time problem in other steam games, just poe1/2

[wet ridge]

I wish windows had this

[thin viper]

I am not sure, but it loads on background, correct?

[devout path]

you are best off disabling that inside steam

[craggy pendant]

it takes time but is very useful to have

[thin viper]

Better to load before the game than during it, right

[craggy pendant]

yep, if it loads during game you get stutters

[devout path]

If it does it every time you launch it sounds like a bug. I switched mine off and I've not had any issues.

[craggy pendant]

it does it on launch if you don't allow it to do it when steam is idle or it hasn't finished yet

some games have issues with it, like Warframe where it redoes it a ton

[devout path]

the original post says every single time, it is a known bug if it does it every launch.

[crimson sphinx]

where do you drop neversink filter on linux?

[craggy pendant]

<LIBRARY_LOCATION>/SteamLibrary/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/My Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/
with <LIBRARY_LOCATION> being where the Steam library containing PoE2 is on your system

number 2694490 is the same for everyone and it is the App ID of PoE2

[wooden wave]

I have a strange issue where I hard crash every time I use an ice skill, doesn't matter which class, if using Dx12. If I use Vulkan or Dx11, it doesn't happen (although the performance is way worse).

I haven't played since the last hotfixes and GGG seems to have fixed some crashing issues so I'll see if it still happens.

But it's very weird that I crash only when use ice skills, maybe it's a shader or particles or whatever, my pc fully freezes and I have to use the Alt+PrintScreen+REISUB shortcut to restart.

I was even checking the game logs and they don't show anything, I just disconnect after a minute and hear the game sounds but the GPU dies and I have to restart the PC.

It's a pity because I finally moved to Debian for daily use and was really hyped for this game 😦 everything else runs flawlessly

[solemn vine]

windows vs linux, any benchmarks?

[serene barn]

sync option?

[rancid gazelle]

Anyone else running on Nobara Linux?

[jovial current]

My graphics card is getting a bit old and i realize there is a performance cost to play on Linux, but even then the performance does not seem great.

Is anyone else experiencing just poor performance overall on Linux?

actually... just reading the comments above, it seems the answer is yes xD

[crimson sphinx]

what card do you have?

[jovial current]

i'm on 1060, so it's above the minimum requirements atleast.
I'm mostly fine playing on low graphics settings, but the FPS goes down to 15-20 at times

[crimson sphinx]

I have a 1080 and the game runs super good.

[jovial current]

are you using elemental spells?

[crimson sphinx]

yep

[ebon crystal]

On my desktop I play with a 4070 and 3600X. And I play elemental sorc. Once the frames settle 2-3 minutes in, it stays at the 90 FPS limit I set at all times.

I never really play at full 144 FPS because I don't feel the need at 1440p. i don't see much of a difference at that high of a resolution.

[crimson sphinx]

try --waitforpreload

[ebon crystal]

I spent almost an hour waiting for vulkan shaders this morning Not gonna wait any longer.

I know I can skip. But I wanted to test.

[crimson sphinx]

those are in cache, you don;t have to render those again.

[ebon crystal]

There was an update or something. I believe that is what triggered it

[crimson sphinx]

an hour for shaders, what cpu? p2?

[ebon crystal]

Ryzen 3600X

[keen ridge]

So back in the day when you played the netcode/instance ran on the server independent of your connection to it. So if you were lagging out for any reason you could be dying to something and not realize it until the game caught back up with the connection to the server. So now the default networking mode is "lockstep" which ties the frame progression on the server to the frame progression on your local PC. So if like, you start lagging out, the game will start lagging out and not do anything to your character until it knows you're receiving packets

[ebon crystal]

Yeah I know. But I wanted a second system first. So I can game in bed too.

[crimson sphinx]

I'm on an i7 7700k, no complaints here...

[ebon crystal]

I don't know. My CPU fan didn't spin up or anything. I just spent the time watching a stream while waiting.

Just tried adding unShaderBackgroundProcessingThreads 12 to a steam_dev.cfg file. Someone mentioned it on Reddit

[keen ridge]

Speaking of shader cache before 2 released I was doing a bit of tidying up and PoE1's steam shader cache was over 102GB

[brisk geode]

Yeah I am

[wooden wave]

So I just reinstalled the game through Lutris instead of Steam and... no crashes here with Dx12 lol

I don't have FSR available though 🤔

[serene barn]

So is this a toggle?

[sacred forge]

My experience has been very bad on Vulkan/DX11, while DX12 has much improved performance but crashes within the minute or so. I run on a Ryzen 9 3900X/ RX 5800 XT/32GB/Debian 12 system. I will try your recommendation with Lutris

[opaque snow]

anyone been able to get Vulkan working well?

on Steam/Nvidia

i still have a black screen from Vulkan

[wooden wave]

I still have a fps drops when a new enemy uses a skill, but I think that's missing shaders that get downloaded at that right moment. After the first drop it doesn't happen again, but it is annoying when fighting bosses the first time.

Good luck with Lutris!

[iron hazel]

Hey, i want to switch to linux because i am fed up with windows. Is PoE2 somewhat playable on Linux rn?

[sacred forge]

not everyone has the same result, a good place to check is protondb where linux people launching through steam report their experiences.

[iron hazel]

ahhh dang - you are right i totally forgot about protondb... yea im so pissed right now and didnt think about pdb - thanks!

[sacred forge]

I am very pissed as well 🙂

[flint laurel]

Everyone has a different experience because everyone's pc is different and there are many linux distros which are all different. Generally if you stick to common hardware like intel/amd/nvidia and common distros like mint/ubuntu you should be fine. The vast majority of problems I've encountered with proton and even with wine before proton existed were just caused by missing libraries that usually could be easily installed from the repos.
It's simple. More complication is more likely to break. Gaming on linux is more likely to break than on windows. But gaming on gentoo with intel graphics is even more likely to break.

[iron hazel]

Yea i normally use linux for my other work - but i usually game on windows. And i just decided that i dont want to use windows anymore because it really pisses me off. I just install either mint/ubuntu and check for myself :D

[sterile basin]

I switched to mint a few years ago and havent looked back

other than working on a unity idle game that requires window transparency, i have to use a windows VM to test that cause it makes user32.dll calls, thats about the only hurdle ive really had

but yeah, check proton db to make sure your fav's run okay and if youre okay with it, give it a shot

[craggy pendant]

Yes, I didn't really do anything, it just worked. Tuxedo OS/Nvidia/x11/steam/vulkan

[devout path]

works fine out of the box on arch(btw)6.12.3/nvidia-open 565.77/x11/steam/vulkan

[silk oracle]

Thank you! I think I'll give it a shot

[ebon crystal]

Yeah. Works fine with LD_PRELOAD="" %command% and on Arch(btw)/nvidia 565.77/AMD CPU/Wayland/DX12. Once DX12 is set in the config.

Windows users seem to have crashes with AMD CPUs. Are we having the same issues?

I haven't experienced any issues with my old 3600X. But a lot of people with fancy X3D CPUs seem to experience freezes and crashes on Windows
Makes me suspect Windows power profiles. AMD's installed ones have a history of crashing games.

[iron hazel]

I have an X3D and im switching to linux in a couple of hours - i can send you a message if this isnt answered in a couple of hours

[ebon crystal]

I would appreciate that.

[silk oracle]

Steamdeck works thanks!

[unreal kiln]

have a weird bug where the game develops a ridiculously bad stutter after about 30-60 minutes of gameplay. Smooth as butter before that.

[robust pumice]

Do you have the steam overlay enabled?

[unreal kiln]

nope

[robust pumice]

might be this problem then
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/11446

in short: valve messed something up with the recent record feature and it's causing issues in games

[unreal kiln]

oh, interesting. I will clear the LD_PRELOAD env then

[robust pumice]

current solutions are either to turn on the overlay, or put the LD_PRELOAD="" in front of the launch command like other people already posted before

I've tested both and either seems to work

[unreal kiln]

also I still can't play under vulkan. DX12 works fine.

[robust pumice]

Nvidia hardware I assume?

[unreal kiln]

well, can't play under vulkan with my 1080ti (secondary gpu). My RX560 (primary) can.

yes

I have a weird setup for gpu hotswapping

so that could be to blame

but haven't had this kind of issue before in other titles w/ vulkan passthrough

[robust pumice]

it's only been occuring since they released that game recording feature recently

[unreal kiln]

on the vulkan nvidia issue?

oh, maybe I should try it again with that env variable set...

[robust pumice]

ah, no the vulkan nvidia issue has been there since the launch of the game I believe

[unreal kiln]

ah

it seems like a proton bug to me

not poe2's fault there

(in either case)

[exotic cairn]

Anyone else finding they can't switch tabs while holding alt on skills like rolling slam?

[sacred forge]

I am crashing within the minute in DX12 on a 3900X/RX5700XT/Debian 12 through Steam/Proton Experimental. DX11/Vulkan are seriously underperforming, making it unplayable

[cerulean jasper]

Hmm so It seems to be running fairly stable on Arch/3080/9800x3d. Using DX12 since the game would not even boot with Vulkan, not sure if it is related to me running on Wayland. Only real issue is ground textures are not loading properly in town

[wooden wave]

Try using the standalone launcher in Lutris, that worked for me and my specs are similar to yours. I'm on Debian 12 too with AMD.

Only thing im still trying to fix is to get FSR to work on the standalone, it's greyed out while on the steam version it works (but crashes occasionally)

[naive osprey]

how much fps do you get with vulcan, im legit getting 70/80 fps with decent textures on a office pc

but Im also using bottles

[unreal kiln]

apparently vulkan not working on nvidia is common. I have the same problem, doesn't happen on my AMD card too.

[fading topaz]

Make sure you have all the vulkan packages installed if you're using Nvidia

[unreal kiln]

its just broken

it seems like either some proton bug or an nvidia driver bug with poe2 doing something that is permitted on windows but not on the linux driver.

which is rare, since they should be almost entirely the same...

[round sedge]

Im using Ryzen 5 5600 with Radeon 6700XT @ Ubuntu 24.04 - no crashes

[unreal kiln]

DX12 works fine for me so I'm just using that

[fading topaz]

It wouldn't be a proton bug, because the Vulkan calls wouldn't go through proton/wine when using the Vulkan renderer directly

[analog phoenix]

did anyone get HDR working yet? i cant tick it in poe even though i have it active in system settings in kde

[rich citrus]

Fedora 39, nvidia rtx 4080, i9 1380hx. Using repo steam, proton ge, and DX12 PoE2 runs fine. Vulkan gives a black screen at load up on PoE2 but works fine for other games, have not had an issue with DX12.

[ebon crystal]

Im assuming its a Wayland/X11 version issue if anything. Since its not crashing on Steam Deck.

[rich citrus]

I am on wayland as well

[ebon crystal]

I tried playing PoE on Debian 12 with X11 and I had the CPU latency thing back then too. But I also had crashes.

LTS when it comes to X11 and Wayland is real bad when it comes with long-term bugs.

[analog phoenix]

yea i feel like rolling update distros are the play when gaming on linux. especially if you play newer games.

[unreal kiln]

it could be something related to setting up the vulkan context

which proton does do some things for

[fading topaz]

possible

[unreal kiln]

yeah you want recent kernels and drivers.

[raven canyon]

does filterblade's sync not work with linux

[analog phoenix]

i never had any problems with it

[fading topaz]

It wouldn't be affected by your OS methinks

Should be tied to your account

[unreal kiln]

it's just nvidia cards on linux not working with vulkan.

I'm leaning towards the nvidia linux driver being buggy. Again.

either way the difference in linux performance between vulkan and dx12 isn't that big.

havent tried dx11 yet but I assume its garbage

game also runs fairly well on some seriously old hardware

[analog phoenix]

dx11 has problems of whats even possible to optimize. this causes stuttering in some situations

[raven canyon]

i get errors on the website when i try to sync

[analog phoenix]

on the website? that should be between filterblade and poe api. your OS shouldnt matter

[unreal kiln]

it's a high level rendering api that has been clearly grandfathered into the codebase from poe1, as poe1 predates dx12.

they also said its deprecated so it might go soon

[analog phoenix]

yea. its good that they added "deprecated"

[raven canyon]

yeah like 2649649 errors when i try to make it

[unreal kiln]

I have a feeling they are going to remove it fairly soon

I'm surprised they even maintained it

[analog phoenix]

its still the default in poe1 for some reason even though it has far worse performance

[analog phoenix]

that just means your filter is messed up. it seems like alot of stuff did break. would restart with a fresh filter and configure again

[unreal kiln]

they have some tricks in poe1 to help rendering dispatch on dx11. They did a pretty good job with it back in the day, but dx12 is still performing far better.

there was a couple big optimization updates back when there was only 3 and 4 acts.

I think they were keeping the renderer just to keep older hardware in the mix until the graphical fidelity of poe2 got a lot better in recent years.

[analog phoenix]

kinda unrelated but i found out that poe performance in linux is quite alot better than in windows in extreme situations like blight farming. seems to be related to how the resources are allocated. windows caused huge lag spikes but in linux only fps were lowered without lags

[unreal kiln]

that's why I stopped gaming on windows

[analog phoenix]

and i have seen the same issue on multiple pcs

[unreal kiln]

I even have a full KVM passthrough setup and just stopped using the windows guest...

I just hotswap the gpu back to the host and play poe2 on there and its fine 😆

[analog phoenix]

what do you use the windows for

[unreal kiln]

now, just testing software I write

wine/proton isn't actually suitable for testing windows compatibility because there are a lot of instances where something will run on wine and won't run on windows

because wine has better backwards compat than windows itself

[analog phoenix]

yea makes sense with how wine works

[unreal kiln]

I was gaming on windows for a while but I've been very unhappy with the win10 userspace bloat and win11 is just completely unacceptable to me.

which is a shame because NT has come a long way over the years and has actually modernized as a kernel... but then whoever the fuck is responsible for UX and a bunch of other random garbage in windows userspace is making the whole experience awful.

have been using linux for almost 15 years now I think

[craggy pendant]

newer Windows versions overhead is quite the throttle on CPU

[analog phoenix]

the main problem are literally freezes for 1+ second in the situation i mentioned earlier. i dont think some overhead is enough to cause that.
thats why i mentioned it most likely being some underlying issue with how the OS manages resources

[craggy pendant]

oh yeah I was just adding to the general idea that windows can be behind linux setups

[analog phoenix]

kinda same. i mostly use linux now due to:

• far less bloat
• customization options
• its just simpler to setup and use as a dev

after comparing them directly by using dual boot the performance gain for pretty much every action is also a nice positive.

i still think that windows is the play for the "average gamer". its simpler to use and the majority of software was developed for it specifically.

solving software issues is very tedious if you arent interested in the underlying technology itself.

[devout path]

Biggest issues friends have had is their propriety software for controlling hardware doesn’t work and Microsoft 365/live/onedrive.

Also modern AAA games who aren’t interested in Linux and don’t enable Linux anti-cheat.

[analog phoenix]

yea i have those problems too. software to change behavior of my mouse and keyboard dont run and playing tft are not possible in linux

[analog phoenix]

also bump for my HDR question from earlier today

[stiff pumice]

hey, did a random "igpu" search and came across ur post.
do u have some insights on if poe2 is playable with an igpu?
amd 7840u in my case

[fading topaz]

I mean... people have run it on the SteamDeck, does that count?

[stiff pumice]

it has lower resolution ofc. but ye kinda counts xd

would love to play at least 1080p

is it just fine on wine?

[kind sapphire]

Very low fps on steam version of POE 2, is this somehow related?

For example, 40 fps at a town no matter of settings

[craggy pendant]

town fps can sink a lot depending on the amount of players and their MTX

compare with your hideout or combat area

[keen ridge]

I've been using Lutris with the standalone and no matter what I do settingswise there seems to be something that happens eventually that leads to; "2024/12/10 01:29:17 348373971 d5a32775 [CRIT Client 508] Failed to decompress (corrupted data)" .... I have a shit connection and apparently the Steam version doesn't download the 90GB Content.ggpk so I have to download it a second time on steam instead of just being able to copy standalone files over... but I will let you know how steam handles it. I did use the proton wine runtime through Lutris but steam could be doing something different.

I do have a steamdeck too but uhhh I might as well just finish downloading the client through steam on this computer and copy the files over because I'm not doing another download of the game

[stiff pumice]

so the 9gb have to be downloaded in a single run?

im on a crappy connection as well

[keen ridge]

well like, the standalone just has a giant content.ggpk file that it uses, but when I was looking at steam downloading the game it doesn't download a content.ggpk and instead seems to be downloading the unpacked contents

[stiff pumice]

and do i have to pay before downloading? :P

[keen ridge]

I didn't have to login before running the standalone installer

but as I said, getting it that way doesn't seem to have a straightforward way to use those files in the steam version of the client

[stiff pumice]

how? im on the website and cannot find the download button lol

[keen ridge]

Which may or may not work better than Lutris is for me, I've got about 10gb left and I'm throttling it to 137kb/s down until I leave for work

https://pathofexile2.com/download

man that was hard to find

then click the little windows thinger if you want the standalone installer

there is no linux installer

[stiff pumice]

ah ye for sure. was just wondering if its actually on the website somewhere.

[kind sapphire]

In combat area fps depends on number of enemies

But I set the lowest settings and my PC is Ryzen 5 3600 and RX 6700, I don't think it can't run the game in 60 fps

[stiff pumice]

and its on... 90gb ...

[keen ridge]

yeah I wonder if there was a limitation in Steam or if Valve wasn't cool with distributing a single 93.0 GB (93,006,722,401 bytes) file

[onyx wasp]

Thanks @robust pumice this fixed it for me!

[stiff pumice]

for me it shows 86GB tho

[keen ridge]

that was the size of my Content.ggpk from the standalone after it's done

[stiff pumice]

ah ok

i remember the downloader. it does atleast not cancel if u fail

[keen ridge]

yeah it's smart about that

[stiff pumice]

since my internet is actually quite fine with speed, but just disconnects sometimes xd

[keen ridge]

makes me wonder if steam just can't handle huge files like that, or if it would make it difficult to partiually update without it being unpacked

[stiff pumice]

no idea. i guess ggg got it figured out

so i guess i should be able to see the login screen and the settings before purchasing?
to get a general idea what the performance might look like

[keen ridge]

yep!

the settings menu is accessible on the main screen before you login

and the main menu does use the gpu to do the rendering

it's not like a static image, it's rendered geometry

[stiff pumice]

ye, i remember having bad fps on poe1. thats years ago tho. when i still had a tower xd

[keen ridge]

I just tested with my Lutris standalone copy and you can get the FPS readout in the top right corner of the main menu when you press F1

[stiff pumice]

thx for the hint

at 14% tho xd still some way to go

[magic ingot]

think steam deck performance got worse. poe2

[stiff pumice]

hows the framerate in the login screen vs the actual game?
i remember that in poe1 the login screen had rly bad performance.

[magic ingot]

deep down 30-20 login screen

town 30-20 to but in gameplay area have hard time stay up near 40

and laggy

[stiff pumice]

ok, so slightly better in gameplay, but still not great :(

[stiff pumice]

about 30+ in login screen. not sure if i should buy it ...

[keen ridge]

You mess with any of the settings? I take a huge hit in dx12 vs vulkan

[devout path]

Is a dedicated gfx card an option? I feel like at 30 you’re in for a rough time when you get some actual mobs on screen.

[wooden wave]

If you're getting 30fps max at the town, you're in for a rough time if you play summoner or with friends.

My pc is a beast and I can't play with my wife who plays summoner, I drop from 140fps to 30-45, but that's with Vulkan. I can't use Dx12 because some skill effects cause it to crash. And it sucks because FSR only works in Dx12...

As soon as there's more than 10-15 mobs in the screen, the resolution drops and you can't see shit, specially with fire or explosions

[stiff pumice]

30fps is the absolute max i can get. with all settings optimized.
fsr works with vulkan for me tho.
im only in the loading screen, since i didnt buy the early access yet

[wooden wave]

FSR with Vulkan? How? It's greyed out for me 🥲

[stiff pumice]

gpu?

[wooden wave]

RX 7900XT

[stiff pumice]

its not for me.
difference to the default upscaler isnt huge in terms of performance tho.
the visuals are different, but i wouldnt say better or worse.

[stiff pumice]

uff

but thats basically the main problem with poe since it started.
performance is insane on higher lvls or summoner builds

[wooden wave]

Well, thanks for letting me know. I'll see if I can make it work.

I get a weird error with Dx12 where the whole system freezes if I use an ice skill. Literally, it's like it's mocking me for using it.

"Ice skills are so strong your computer freezes too!"

[stiff pumice]

:)

[orchid fable]

That happens for me with most skills on DX12. Vulkan works, but ice skills drop my fps from 100+ to 5-20 in fights. Fire skills also tank my fps, but not as bad (down to ~30). Lightning is fine for some reason. I have a 7700XT, so I'm thinking it might be an issue with Linux and AMD? My wife has the same problem with her 7600.

[stiff pumice]

classic poe :)
i would absolutely love to see a "low budget gpu" version of poe with "vintage graphics".
will prolly never happen, but i can still dream.

[feral grotto]

I can't link anything in chat in poe2, is that just me or is that some linux issue for some reason?

[craggy pendant]

I can link just fine in chat in PoE2 on Linux

[feral grotto]

hmm shit

[craggy pendant]

do your CTRL and ALT work in PoE2 in other contexts?

alt for highlighting sockets, ctrl for switching to secondary skill shortcut bar?

[feral grotto]

yes

together they don't though

well at least i can't link in chat

[craggy pendant]

pretty weird

[orchid fable]

Holy shit can't believe I didn't try this earlier. Just installed the latest AMD drivers from bookworm-backports (on Debian) and now those massive frame drops are gone. The game is finally playable!

[wooden wave]

https://tenor.com/view/hawk-eye-dont-give-me-hope-clint-barton-avengers-gif-14260447

Just kidding, I'll try after work

Thanks for the info!

[dawn island]

works for me without issue. what could theoretically be (if game's key shortcuts are fine), that your wm/de has something assigned

[upbeat inlet]

On my laptop with nvidia 1650 Max-Q it runs better with FSR enabled than DLSS

I've had to modify $HOME/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/poe2_production_Config.ini and set DirectX12 instead of vulkan to make it working with steam

[dawn island]

it meanwhile feels like additional game content at every patch

[stiff pumice]

just wondering: if i try different resolutions.
how do i basically get 30fps on 4k and 60fps on 1080p?
shouldnt it be more like 4x the fps?

[keen ridge]

by the way Steam is doing something magical that Lutris is not doing, so if you're having problems go with steam and not the standalone

No client crashing due to corrupted data any more.

I assume the Proton Hotfix has something to do with that, but selecting it as the runner in Lutris was not helping

you're not gonna tell him about pixel fill rate?

;P

[stiff pumice]

ye its fine.

absolute max with fsr upscaling to the max is 60fps on fhd

in the login screen

just out of curiousity:
if i wanted to get an egpu for a 7840u laptop.
is that somehow feasible to play 4k with soemthing like that? xd

[keen ridge]

That video recently Asmon covered that another dev did about why Unreal Engine's Temporal Anti-Aliasing sucks ass was a really good watch if you wanna hear about the inner workings of today's game engines.

[stiff pumice]

ah ye, thats out of scope atm.
would just be interested if egpu setups are good enough for 4k gaming at all

the what exactly and how to get it to run comes after.
just in theory.

yes i do.
its more about if that can even do gpus powerful enough.
just imagine a world where the outside factors just work.

i know the whole chain needs to support it.
but in general: are the enclosures and gpus in it worth it to consider for 4k or not?

im quite fine with tech in general. just out of the gaming and gpu stuff for years :P

60-120

sure. 4k@30 i can do on my igpu right now

[keen ridge]

usb 3.2 can use up to 4 PCIe lanes I think

[stiff pumice]

im pretty sure tb4/usb4 speeds are the limit here.
and i guess there are no tb5 enclosures yet?
and laptops are also not out or fairly limited i guess

[keen ridge]

if your use case is going to be pcie traffic heavy then it's ehhh, but if it's something that doesn't use a lot of PCIE traffic like running large language AI models you can get away with more

[stiff pumice]

ok, so 4k@60 is kinda the best i can expect? without upscaling

kk ty

[hardy aurora]

any luck getting this going on Steamdeck yet? Mine crashes soon as I login, do I need specific proton layer?

all info i'm seeing so far ppl are just 'playing' with it might moonlight it to get performance up but still haven't figured out how to launch

[undone cipher]

you might need to edit the game's config file and change it from vulkan to direct x12. I had problems playing it until I did that on Nobara. I bet the steam deck doesn't like it either.

[quiet viper]

I have it installed on a seperate SSD so I have to do this every restart. Thankfully beefy pc so it doesn't take long

[strong kraken]

has anyone ever figured out how to make it so the ingame clock uses the correct timezone? mine is always in UTC

both for poe1 and 2

[quartz copper]

Steam deck has been working totally find for me all they way up until Act 3. Chimeral Wetlands is the first unplayable area, my deck sits around 12 fps

[shrewd pewter]

Do you have steam installed via flatpak? I know mine was in UTC when I had steam installed via that rather than the direct .deb method (something about sandbox environments and their ilk)

[strong kraken]

yeah

iirc on my other computer i have it as native and it doesn't have the issue

so that checks out

[shrewd pewter]

I think there's a way to toy with the container that flatpak runs in (idk, never ventured down that path). Something to do with the config settings or something ... It threw me for a loop when I wanted to expose another drive to the container and I was like "why am I doing this, I'll just install via the .deb"

[strong kraken]

yeah fair

[stiff pumice]

btw, hows linux gaming (wine/proton) vs windows these days in general?
not compatibility. just raw fps.

i know my way around. i was just not gaming for several years and didnt keep track.

[craggy pendant]

I don't have a windows to compare to but I've seen some people with both say the windows overhead + DirectX inefficiency caps out the system on CPU for them while Linux doesn't, in the context of PoE2.

Personally however I play quite a bit of early access titles in general and there are never any issues in terms of fps

the compatibility layer seems to be less of a burden compared to windows overheads, especially in case of win11

steamdeck boosting proton helped out with that a ton

[stiff pumice]

thanks a lot. so basically a nonissue when familiar with linux. :)

[craggy pendant]

yeah usually you just check the tickbox to run a game via proton and that's the extent of your tinkering

[stiff pumice]

ye, it feels too easy almost these days

[dawn island]

indeed. I played since the 2000s on linux, at that time with winex/cedega (that was a non-free wine fork/transgaming). It was a rough time.. even after steam appeared, but it worked with enough tweaking. gaming on linux made the real push with the release of proton. that's maybe why I take the shader compilation with a smile 😄

[frigid heart]

anyone have by any chance a spar key? i dont have eanogh money

[fading topaz]

This server isn't the place to ask for handouts. Also, the game will be free on full release

[craggy pendant]

will be free, with extra content and more stable all at the same time, pretty insane
as for keys you can go try to fish on poe2 reddit instead

[river epoch]

the game crashed on windows, so I checked it out on linux (Pop_OS), it worked pretty well yestarday with no crashes but today, after the patch, game is unplayable crashing every 2 minutes. Anyone have any ideas what could help?

[keen ridge]

uhhh, okay so how were you running it on Linux? and what does the Client log say at the very end?

Steam works better to run it in Linux as opposed to Wine or some of the frontends (Lutris)

for me in Lutris client log is in /home/user/Games/yourLutrisgamename/drive_c/program files (x86)/Grinding Gear Games/Path of Exile 2, uhh in Steam it would be something like.....

./home/user/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Path of Exile 2/logs

[river epoch]

i used steam and proton experimental, there wasn't anything unusual in logs, the only thing that was wrong was
[CRIT Client 436] File Not Found: Metadata/Effects/Microtransactions/Flasks/LightningInABottle/EPKs/characterFX.epk. Using fallback EPK file

[stiff pumice]

btw, are there still key giveaways somewhere?
dont rly wanna buy to figure out my gpu is not strong enough. but would love to give it a shot.

[dull gulch]

howdy, is anyone else experiencing random fps drops after 50 mins or so? POE1 runs perfectly on proton experimental otherwise (xwayland, amd gpu)

[keen ridge]

yeah that happens kinda often, I think someone had some sort of fix but I just restart client

[stiff pumice]

is poe2 just way more demanding than poe1?
with kinda the same trash graphics i get 60fps on poe2 and like 150-200fps on poe1.

[dull gulch]

yeah I just restart client too

[orchid fable]

If you experience random fps drops after playing for 30-50 minutes, make sure you enable Steam overlay or add LD_PRELOAD="" to your launch options (see here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/11446)

[dull gulch]

hmm that might be it, seems like it's loading some weird stuff by default and we have to override it

thanks I will test it

LD_PRELOAD="" %command% --waitforpreload --noasync

[velvet mortar]

I temporarily solve my Vulkan problem with a black screen in PoE2 (Flatpak Steam) by logging into X11 in Plasma. If anyone has an idea on how to choose Vulkan in Wayland without getting a black screen on Nvidia, please let me know. Currently, I get the best performance with Vulkan, and another plus side is that I can skip Steam shader compiling

[dull gulch]

nvidia on wayland is a nightmare tbh, it feels like install the old flgrx drivers for ATI

have you tried different versions of the driver? I switched recently to AMD but I was able to play WoW on nvidia on wayland by upgrading to the then beta drivers

this was around a year ago

[unreal cipher]

So this just started today: every second or so, my character goes blurry and freezes for a split second. Not seeing any network issues. Was working just fine yesterday. On steam deck. Anyone? Super frustrating and unplayable.

[sterile basin]

Is that auto-graphics-whatever thing turned off?

Ive been on mint a few years. had some weird shit like that happen on here. Just copied it to the deck today (thank god for that lan transfer thing, i live where the road overhangs the bush), but havent had a chance to really test the deck itself

have you tried yelling at it or percussive maintenance?

[grave summit]

Why do I need to do this with every start?

[craggy pendant]

so that your game stutters less while you play

you can also make your steam do this for you while it is idle

[dull gulch]

I never understand why some games do that and why some, is there a toggle for that? e.g: satisfactory does, dyson sphere program and poe2 doesnt

and im using the vulkan render lol, I never thought about it

[robust pumice]

There is an option to turn off pre-caching globally, but not per game I think

[dull gulch]

I used to have that problem playing dota2 with the constant shaders processing, I fixed it by not playing dota anymore lol

[robust pumice]

I decided to turn it off entirely, because every time I started for example Warframe it was processing GBs of new shaders

[craggy pendant]

warframe is a horrendous outlier

the fix for it for me was to make a separate library for just the warframe and disconnect it from steam when I dont play it

😄

so that the other titles could properly process shaders

[robust pumice]

Valve needs to fix their pre-caching strategy
I've seen so many Steam Deck users complain about it

Warframe has 30GB of shaders stored... that's half of the install size

[craggy pendant]

yes, it's the worst offender I've ever seen

[idle nimbus]

Is anyone experiencing random crashed with PoE2?

Switching to DX12 fixed it with first patch, but now both DX12 and Vulkan give me crashes

Running full AMD build so it's not an Nvidia thing

[craggy pendant]

no crashes so far

[idle nimbus]

Also, this should be pinned, or hell should even be disclosed by Steam. Took me like a week to figure this one out

[shrewd pewter]

It's been working perfectly fine on my machine and haven't had a single hitch after launch day. I have it installed via steam (Proton Experimental and LD_PRELOAD="" %command% as the custom load which got rid of stuttering that'd show up after 30m or so of playtime).

However, I've noticed that when I play with a controller the game runs like 25-30% better/smoother (in terms of FPS).

[idle nimbus]

LD=PRELOAD / Steam Overlay, aye that is a general steam issue currently

But I don't get frequent crashes with other titles. What proton are you running?

[analog phoenix]

hey, can you maybe add some context in the message just to make it easier to understand what it is about when pinned?
just a simple sentence like "if you experience xxx try this"

[jolly star]

sometimes the game randomly crashes when i tab out, is that a linux/everyone/me problem?

not crashes, but freezes completely. sound is still there but i have to kill it and start it up again

[analog phoenix]

i havent encountered that issue yet

[jolly star]

could be hyprland too where "tab out" is switching to another workspace

[robust pumice]

Sounds very likely, considering that Hyprland had issues with XWayland in the past

It is working fine on Plasma 6 on wayland

[craggy pendant]

Haven't had that

[keen ridge]

Somehow my poe1 steam shadercache got to 102gb in settlers

[outer pagoda]

i think like half of my dota install is the precache for all the immortal effects lol

thank god they fixed the thing where your game performance got totally nuked by your armory contents

[dull gulch]

I think I only install dota to watch the TI on the client as you can watch the player's POV, it's like watching formula 1 from the driver's POV

but other than that yeah ut was always precaching

[idle nimbus]

Would anyone be interested in a Linux guild in-game?

[orchid fable]

Are your drivers up-to-date? On Debian I had to install the latest ones from backports instead of the default repo and that fixed all my performance issues.

[velvet mortar]

I finally fixed the black screen Vulkan problem in Path of Exile 2! And the best part is, you can still use Vulkan and don't have to switch to Direct12. So, here's a guide I made, hoping it helps someone else facing the same issue. The fix requires setting the game to borderless fullscreen window mode and then subtracting one pixel from your main display resolution.

Important Note: You'll need to reapply these steps if you change display settings within the game itself, as it will overwrite the changes.

Steps:

1. Locate the Configuration File:

   • Navigate to your Path of Exile 2 game directory.
     • (~/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/)
   • Find and open the file named poe2_production_Config.ini using a text editor.

2. Modify Graphics Settings:

   • Change Renderer: Find the line renderer_type=. If it says anything other than Vulkan, change it to renderer_type=Vulkan.
   • Adjust Resolution:
     • Locate the lines resolution_width= and resolution_height=.
     • Subtract one from each of their values.
     • For example, if your original resolution was 1920x1080, your new values should be:
       • resolution_width=1919
       • resolution_height=1079
   • Set Fullscreen Mode: Change fullscreen= to fullscreen=false.
   • Set Window Maximization: Change maximize_window= to maximize_window=true.
   • Enable Borderless Fullscreen: Change borderless_windowed_fullscreen= to borderless_windowed_fullscreen=true.

3. Save and Launch:

[idle nimbus]

Great work and well written, I'm sure this will help a lot of Nvidia users

[idle nimbus]

It's weird, switching to Vulkan has resolved the issye now.

Regarding the guild, please add me on PoE2 and I'll drop the invite, my name is KinkyMercyTheMerc

No tabs as of this moment, but I'll be buying the $480 pack as soon as I can 😅

[jolly star]

how's perfomance on vulkan compared to dx12?

[acoustic mirage]

seems like it works for enough ppl and its a simple steam boot parameter anyway

[orchid fable]

Thanks!

[unreal kiln]

very similar

there's one graphical bug I get on my nvidia card on dx12 that doesn't happen in vulkan

[keen ridge]

in my tests with Lutris on a 12GB 3060; DX12 is unplayable compared to Vulkan, haven't tried or needed it with Steam's WINE runner though.

[jolly star]

ty, might give it a try in steam then

[velvet mortar]

Apologies for the late reply. I'm running the game on a Nvidia 1080 Ti graphics card with a 5600X CPU. Here are my performance results...
Windows (DX12): 120 FPS
Linux (DX12): 78 FPS
Windows (Vulkan): 105 FPS
Linux (Vulkan): 102 FPS"

[fading topaz]

Is that average FPS or minimum?

[jolly star]

What, mine are way worse i think. Only tried dx12 on a 3070 mobile, gotta try vulkan

[velvet mortar]

I tested it when the character was standing still at a waypoint in the game.

[jolly star]

My minion build is probably not doing the fps any favors too.. 😬

[velvet mortar]

Hehe, yeah, I've heard minion can be an FPS killer

[sharp wraith]

Anyone elses game freezing when tabbing out in Vulkan renderer?

[craggy pendant]

nope

Vulkan issues seem to be associated with certain types of setups, so it might help your query if you provide some more info on your drivers, graphics platform etc

[warm ravine]

Has anyone seen an issue with PoE 2 where the game runs perfectly smooth (144 FPS for me) for about 40 minutes or so and then the GPU utilization drops out from about 90% or so down to 60% or less and the FPS drops and the game performance is extremely choppy? Simply restarting the game makes it run great for another 40 minutes but it's annoying to have to keep restarting the game every 40 minutes.

[shrewd pewter]

Yep, let me grab what I did ...

[fading topaz]

There's a pinned message about that

[warm ravine]

Oh yep I see that. Thanks for the heads up I appreciate it.

[sharp wraith]

Nvidia 2080 TI, GNOME 47.1 (Wayland), Kernel 6.12.3

[warm ravine]

It doesn't seem to like this. It will run if I get rid of the equal sign and the quotes, but not sure if that fixes the issue yet.

[orchid fable]

You need to have LD_PRELOAD="" %command%

Otherwise steam will pass it as a command line argument to the PoE executable which is why it fails.

[warm ravine]

I see... so that way Steam interprets the command and not the Path of Exile executable

[orchid fable]

Yes exactly.

[turbid idol]

Has anyone had issues with crashing during Trials of Chaos? Pretty much every time I reach the second room it crashes and kicks me out. I was able to pass that and get to the boss but second/third/fourth time around it crashes, making it uncompletable 🤔

[craggy pendant]

I'd be laughing if it's one of the poe1 ultimatum crashes resurfacing in some obscure way

I only had one crash in all my time on poe2 now and it happened in ultimatum Trials of Chaos but that's only one case so far so can't say 🤷‍♂️

[warm ravine]

I've had the same experience so far, maybe one or two crashes in 60 hours.

[edgy sierra]

I crashed in Trial of Chaos the 5 times I attempted it. Four in the soul core fetch quest room and once on a boss.

[dull gulch]

can we name it "chmod 777 /" ?

but yeah a guild for linux users where we can find other linux players would be useful

[pliant violet]

i managed to get it work through standalone client, not Steam

[spiral summit]

fonts/margins need a bit more love 🙂

[analog phoenix]

how exactly did you set it up?

[lyric iris]

[Steam Deck] performance is rough in Hunting Grounds, without dynamic resolution it drops from 40 fps to 25

[pliant violet]

in heroic standalone launcher with GE-Proton920

[little haven]

Was anyone able to get either exiled exchange or sidekick running?

https://sidekick-poe.github.io/
https://kvan7.github.io/Exiled-Exchange-2/
I'm having trouble getting these to run with lutris and GEProton 20

[covert galleon]

So, figured out all you have to do is run the game in windowed, then fullscreen using KDE while Vulkan is set. Works.

Also, delete your cache in /appdata/roaming/poe2 and disable shader cache.

Went from 20-40FPS consistently to 120FPS out of battle, 90 in battle, and around 45-50 in town during peak.

This fixed all my issues. Added LDPRELOAD to the launch options and set steam overlay to ENABLED. Prevents a weird memory leak.

This fixed all my issues. Nothing else has worked.

[unreal kiln]

nvidia or amd?

[covert galleon]

nvidia on wayland

Once the shaders load its pretty smooth. I do notice about 20fps drops with a lot of fire effects specifically. Especially SRS, but otherwise its night and day difference. Old CPU here too. 7700K and 3060 Ti.

[jolly star]

my steam overlay stops working when i set LD_PRELOAD, is that intended?

[opaque snow]

alright so has anyone gotten Sidekick working yet?

[unreal kiln]

yeah I can't get vulkan running in fullscreen without the game ever freezing on me. Setting to fullscreen via kwin just immediately hangs the game.

only thing that works is just hiding the bar and maximizing

it's some sort of wayland issue on nvidia for direct compositing IIRC

if I had to guess, it's Nvidia reflex trying to do something?

[orchid fable]

I believe so yes. If you want to use the overlay don't set it (that will still fix the 30-50 minute lag issue).

[pliant violet]

reason why i'm back to Windows for now

[indigo saddle]

shared NTFS partition for games

can switch at any time

[pliant violet]

yea I can switch anytime

[indigo saddle]

true but I was just sharing a way to make switching more seamless, have heard of people redownloading games on windows

[pliant violet]

got screwed by sharing NTFS once, broke the partition or something

have enough storage to redownload 🙂

[dim osprey]

Vulkan 1.4, pretty solid performance increase. i have POE2 on both my windows and linux installs, linux cpu/gpu render times were like an additional 7ms... but now with vkd3d1.4 its basically identical render times compared to my windows install! amazing

that version popped up in the AUR over the last day or two? havent been playing POE2 or updating over the weekend but glad to see it

[little haven]

I was able to get exiled exchange working. You just have to compile it yourself. There's instructions on how to do it on the repo.

[pliant violet]

Will check it out later tonight

[little haven]

There's also an open issue where they're discussing putting an app image in the releases so maybe just wait till they do it.

[dull oriole]

This is so nice and impressive.

[dim osprey]

well i did a map earlier, tinnnnyyy bit of stutter, tiny bit of extra frame render time... but basically i dont feel any need to boot back to windows for poe2 at least, doubt i would even know there's an issue if i didnt have a windows install to compare it to

[shell hamlet]

I dont notice issues other than when I have a billion particles on my screen lol

[dim osprey]

Yeah I mean the game has definitely been very playable, was a bit of a bummer when switching to windows and seeing the performance difference. But pretty damn negligible at this point. I had remembered a yt video from Brodi talking about the arms race of devs to get Vulkan 1.4 out first lol so was glad to finally see it pop up on my system

I'm just glad I have no reason to boot back over to windows at this point

[shell hamlet]

Yeah nah, i got two chars level 70+ so its been great

[glass wing]

Anyone got the same issue as me ? I tried GeForce now on kubuntu but keyboard input are detected only for a few keys

I downloaded Steam Vulkan version, but the quality is sooooo poor, I'm so Sad that i can't use GFN

[fading topaz]

Why do you want Geforce Now? nvm I was thinking Geforce Experience

[fading topaz]

Have you tried this tool? https://github.com/hmlendea/gfn-electron

[raw rampart]

I've been playing through steam, is there a standalone client?

[fading topaz]

There is. You just have to run it through something like Wine, Lutris, Bottles, etc.

[flint laurel]

Could probably add standalone to steam as non-steam game and use proton just as easily

[rapid ridge]

Runs like a dream through Steam with renderer set to DX12. I'm running ProtonGE 9-20 FWIW

[flint laurel]

I'm using vulkan because I've historically gotten better performance with it. This way proton (dxvk) doesn't need to translate directx calls to vulkan. Has this changed or is dx12 translation so optimized that the gap is closing?

[fading topaz]

It will vary a lot depending on your GPU and drivers. Some people will find better performance with one or the other

[glass wing]

Yes I tried but same result, as far as I found on web, it's related to kde desktop and plasma but I'm not sure

[fading topaz]

Are you on X11 or Wayland?

[glass wing]

Fun fact : I installed a Windows 11 VM with atlasOs, and it works hahaha

Wayland because I upgraded to 24.10

Plasma 6

In general Wayland is not that bad with plasma 6 on kubuntu 24.10, but I lost some feature in comparison to X11. But I won some performance in graphical processing

[fading topaz]

I'm just thinking that it may be having issues recognizing your keyboard input because you're on Wayland. Just a theory though

[glass wing]

Yeah I think this is the issue

But not that much posts on the web about this

I think 24.10 is too early for the community

That's so sad cause it worked like charm on X11 when I was in 23.10

[rapid ridge]

Disclaimer: I play a limited set of games and have a single system to test with. It's likely that this is different for others.

I certainly feel like the gap is closed if not inverted. I almost universally get better perf from dx11/dx12 than running vulkan directly Even if the perf was worse, I would still prefer dxvk over vulkan for nothing other than stability. PoE2 won't even run with the Vulkan renderer for me at all, and I had the same issue with PoE1, among other games.

I have attributed it to most (if not all) game devs focusing more heavily on DX since the vast majority of players use Windows.

If it helps, I'm running Arch with Hyprland, a 4090 with nvidia-open drivers (go ahead, shame me), and generally leave things default in Steam other than using a recent ProtonGE if the game has issues.

[hardy ginkgo]

Hey guys is it better run Poe 2 with lutris pr stream ?

I’m on fedora kde spin

[fading topaz]

Better in what sense?

[dim osprey]

Steam is 'easier', id just try that out first since its quick and simple to install. doesnt work well, then try Lutris

[hardy ginkgo]

Like which one patches better etc

I haven’t played in a long time but i remember standalone was recommended on windows

[dim osprey]

Steam on linux is leaps and bounds better than it was just a couple years ago, because of all the Steam Deck stuff. and can easily switch proton versions from steam if needed.

POE2 on linux running basically identically to my windows install at this point

[hardy ginkgo]

Nice 👍

[dim osprey]

update your system if you can, i noticed a bit of a performance bump when it installed Vulkan 1.4 this week

[hardy ginkgo]

Ok, I just built it last night so it’s probably up to date

[flint laurel]

I'm also running arch with a 3090ti. It's odd to hear that it hasn't ran for you with vulkan considering we have similar os and gpu. Works for me just fine. I also usually leave things default unless there's a problem to fix. Poe2 has required no fixing or configuration at all so far. It just worked.

[serene barn]

holy shader compilation

12 cores cranking for 5 min now and still 19%

props for making it thorough

[raw rampart]

Is there an easy way to check item prices on linux, like how they have overwolf for windows? I'll take manually putting the info into a browser at this point. Shifting through trade is a bit of a nightmare

[craggy pendant]

For poe1 you can use awakened poe trade on Linux. For poe2 I don't know of any mature tools yet

[raw rampart]

Thanks fingers crossed for POE2. I've basically fully shifted now

[serene barn]

anyone stuck on loading screen?

[raw rampart]

I think servers are down for patch rn

[craggy pendant]

Yes

15 min downtime or so

[serene barn]

mine is just blank

can't tell if it's a linux issue or servers

[craggy pendant]

Rn server

[raw rampart]

yeah looks like server issues rn

[round ridge]

looks like a patch hit

[serene barn]

I expected to at least get to the login screen

[serene barn]

had to switch to dx12

[keen ridge]

That is a thing

[serene barn]

though switching to vulkan in-game works

[brisk geode]

The appimage is released now

[calm vector]

You can run Sidekick on linux in dev mode for now, there are instructions on the discord. The code is crossplatform except for the interface, 90% there let's say.

[raw rampart]

Thank you!

[pliant violet]

https://github.com/Kvan7/Exiled-Exchange-2
they just released Linux version

[raw rampart]

Ayyyy

[dull gulch]

https://i.imgflip.com/9e80ik.jpg

[pliant violet]

does anyone else facing weird artifacts in game when mangohud is enabled?

[jolly star]

is this one working for you guys? it seems to just hide my game behind a transparent page on hyprland, showing my blurred wallpaper :(

[grizzled topaz]

I kinda got it running but the app is super early alpha that nearly 90% of it is still in poe1

I did get it to pricecheck and at least it output 1ex like I was expecting, and spearheading a project this big in beta is going to move slow

[pliant violet]

ye is pretty alpha, capturing psuedo stats now and trade2 site doesn't support it

[calm vector]

They might add pseudo in the trade eventually. I think they were manually added.

[devout path]

I've been experiencing a weird issue since the most recent patch, when I pull a large number of enemies my network latency goes from 19 - 20 up to 50 - 60. Has anyway seen anything like that?

It could be server side, some bug reports of server lag on the forums. Just thought I'd ask if anyone on linux had seen anything similar.

[reef stone]

anyone know how to paste in neversink filter in linux?

figured it out. you can paste directly from linux downloads into the windows folder. just refresh and you'll be able to select in game.

[opaque snow]

compat data

[velvet mortar]

~/.var/app/com.valvesoftware.Steam/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/

[rapid ridge]

If you want an easy way to grab it, I wrote up a quick script that grabs latest filter and writes it directly to the PoE2 folder. It's also configurable so you can use it for a different filter, or if your PoE2 pfx is somewhere other than ~/.local/share/.... etc

Note: You still need to select/reload it in game, but this shortcuts the need to download/copy/clone and move it yourself.

#! /bin/bash

# If your PoE2 wine pfx is located elsewhere, update accordingly.
POE2_DIR="<YOUR_HOME_DIRECTORY>/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2"

# Change if you prefer another filter that has a direct raw download available.
FILTER_URL='https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NeverSinkDev/NeverSink-PoE2litefilter/refs/heads/main/NeverSinks%20Litefilter.filter'
FILE_NAME='NeverSinksLite.filter'

curl "$FILTER_URL" -o "$POE2_DIR"/"$FILE_NAME"

You can set your Steam launch options to run it before the game launches every time: /path/to/script.sh & %command%

[normal lava]

When i play this game. Especially in big groups. My graphics become pixelated. Is this just related to the game? or just due to my GPU VRM maybe running low during fights? i never seen anything like it before.

[celest fog]

does anyone have an issue with poe2 on linux where videos play an extremely deafening screeching sound in the background?

it happens to me with the intro video of GGG, and also, for example, when I go to craft a skill gem and it plays the video of the skill

[celest fog]

found part of the issue? there's an extra audio app playing when there's a video (with the loud screeching noise)

has no one seen this before?

so i just muted that audio source but it seems to reset (for some reason)

[edgy sierra]

That would be the "Dynamic Resolution" option. It scales down the resolution to try and keep the "Target Framerate" under "Advanced Settings". You can turn it off or try setting a lower target framerate.

[normal lava]

I actually came back to report, that i got it fixed. You were correct. That was the problem.

thanks

[lone willow]

yes. doesn’t happen for me at the ggg logo but does happen in the skill screen. it also happens during the between-act FMVs.

it doesn’t respect volume settings in either pipewire or in the game itself, so i’m guessing it might be some interaction sending invalid audio data

I had this problem in POE1 during the campaign too, when there’s a full motion video that plays halfwayish through

[strong kraken]

iirc default proton has issues with media codecs or whatever. try enabling shader precaching or using proton-ge.

although considering it's a separate audio source i don't think this would be the case

[celest fog]

Interesting! Never experienced it myself playing poe1.

[celest fog]

just tried with both and no luck 😢

[glass wing]

Hey guys, anyone experiencing black screen and Poe instant quick ?

I edited .local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Documents/My\ Games/Path\ of\ Exile\ 2/poe2_production_Config.ini to switch to DirectX12 but same issue

It was working before the last patch

:/

[glass wing]

Well, turns out that switching from Wayland to X11 made GeForce now key lock working

On kubuntu

[celest fog]

thank you I'm using this and it works like a charm!

[rapid ridge]

Glad it could help! 😊

[strong kraken]

based curler

[celest fog]

another weird thing about this is that it only happens after a certain time playing (and only sometimes during the intro), i don't know if there's an specific interaction that's triggering it or just something random happening in the background

[strong kraken]

does it also play the correct audio? or is that replaced by the screech?

also iirc there's been some issues with the steam overlay recently related to the library that steam preloads for the game. try prepending LD_PRELOAD="" to your launch options so it doesn't load that library.

e.g., LD_PRELOAD="" gamemoderun %command% (it needs to be the very first thing since other wrappers like gamemode often function by setting LD_PRELOAD)

(the exact issue i'm familiar with is that, after a certain time playing, the game stutters whenever there's mouse movement. maybe it's exhibiting itself a bit differently in poe's engine)

[fluid notch]

maybe not Linux specific question but, does Steam Deack best option for play POE without Windows desktop? I'm trying to find any option other than build a whole PC and rise my electricity bill 🫠

[strong kraken]

iirc neversink tried it on the steam deck and had a good time

the graphics aren't great, but it plays well

https://x.com/NeverSinkDev/status/1866604411486867787

NeverSink (@NeverSinkDev) on X

I got asked like 20 times on how poe2 runs on stream deck.
Summary:
- combat controls: amazing with one caveat. Tons of work put in clearly
- other controls: ok
- graphics, on low graphics it runs acceptable. It doesn't look too fancy, but gets the job done at 30-45fps

1/4

Twitter · Dec 10, 2024, 10:02 PM

[celest fog]

it plays both the audio of the video and the screench

[strong kraken]

huh ok. that's weird

[celest fog]

i did try this, thank you but it didn't work ty anyways 😅

[strong kraken]

yeah i'm all out of ideas rn. i'll let you know if i come up with anything else

[celest fog]

sure thing! i really appreciate it 😄

[fluid notch]

so Steam Deck is indeed a best option? hmm thanks for the info

[strong kraken]

idk if it's the best option, but it seems like a good one

[celest fog]

also if you are willing to wait, apparently new handheld "consoles" will be released next year with SteamOS in partnership with Valve

which may have better performance than the steamdeck

[strong kraken]

yeah the steamdeck is a bit old now; newer chips probably have better ppw

[pliant violet]

Wasn’t happy how poe2 performs in steam deck. I rather stream it from my PC, even tried it today when I was out, wireguard back home and did a few maps without dying

[fluid notch]

consoles? okay i will google it, thanks.

[undone stone]

Am I doing something wrong that I have to do the shaders all the time?

Thought it ran them once in a while only

[analog phoenix]

disable this

[undone stone]

How bad is it if I don't process them though?

[analog phoenix]

i didnt notice any difference but i have a pretty strong cpu. i guess that it compiles shaders while playing

[undone stone]

AH it goes in the background gotcha

Am running two intel xeons, probably fine then?

[analog phoenix]

hard to say without knowing the exact model

[analog phoenix]

its not a great gaming cpu but should be good enough i guess? time to try

[undone stone]

Huge upgrade from my old i5-7500 at least

That one was limping along

[strong kraken]

I've found performance to be relatively similar to poe1, so if that works then this should work as well.

[rain latch]

guys is there some config i need to change or something? the game takes years to load and once i'm in, all the skill animations, enemies etc are not loaded yet and the game runs very bad. Is this a cpu problem or?

[strong kraken]

Check your ram usage. Maybe the resources are getting swapped out?

[craggy pendant]

Did you interrupt/disable shader pre-caching?

[rain latch]

i have it disabled

[rain latch]

i’ll check tomorrow, but i think the ram was ok. Only the cpu was like on 90% usage

[rapid ridge]

Have you tried with shader pre-caching enabled?

[rain latch]

yeah, it took like 2 hours but the problem was still there

[jolly star]

Is it the same on dx12/vulkan? I had that problem for a few mins when i started the game on dx12 but not on vulkan

[keen terrace]

Can somone recommend a trading overlay for poe 2 running in Linux?

[pliant violet]

https://github.com/Kvan7/Exiled-Exchange-2

[keen terrace]

Thanks ❤️

[rain latch]

Vulkan always gives me a black freezing screen, so I have to manually change it on the config.

[jolly star]

Try to set it to vulkan and change resolution in the config file to 1pixel less than your actual resolution, that worked for me

[rain latch]

just tried and it actually starts the game, but the laoding is still taking ages

[rain latch]

9gb used out of 6gb

[spiral summit]

I'm having trouble with low FPS in poe2, when I start delirium, ultimatum or breach for example. Frames drop to the ocean floor, then after several seconds, they kinda stabilize. I have nvidia 3080ti on Garuda linux. All setting on low, except texture details, those are max. should I enable/disable anything specific to improve this?

[analog phoenix]

a couple things you can try

• try a different renderer
• enable dynmic culling
• enable triple buffering
• vsync either adaptive or off. locked is bad for fps if you cant hold the target frame rate consistently

also if you press F1, is your gpu or your cpu frame time the problem?

[spiral summit]

ty, I'll test this now

[noble scarab]

hey so am i doing something wrong here? my frame rate is perfectly fine until i play about an hour, i tried doing the launch option here but i get this error when i launch the game:

[spiral summit]

when I encounter first mobs in the map

And I'm playing summoner

[craggy pendant]

The shader slider is visibly going off

You need to wait for them to process

Shader pre-caching might help

[spiral summit]

ok

[craggy pendant]

I get that too when they spawn in Ultimatum, and in my case it's shader processing slowing things down. Once it's done it's back to normal fps

[analog phoenix]

your graphs and stabilizing fps point to issues with shaders. it might happen for a while after switching shaders.
what cpu do you got and what kind of drive are your OS and your poe on?

[spiral summit]

i9 11900k, samsung evo ssd

i'll finish the map, then try with vulkan render

[rain latch]

ok I confirm I also have the shaders bar at the max every time I load up.. I'll try to pre-compile them again

[spiral summit]

vulkan render feels smoother than dx12

thanx for the help guys

[idle nimbus]

Idk why, but I'll play the PoE2 for 12h without crashing once, and then I'll have a period of a few hours where it crashes like 20 times every 5-15 minutes

Rebooting changes nothing

Switching Proton version changes nothing

[brave seal]

the game was running flawlessly, then yesterday the enemies started all looking glitchy, I thought I was having a linux compatibility problem thing, glad I found this page XD https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1haowx5/weird_graphical_artifacts_on_monsters_moving/?rdt=34844

[rapid ridge]

I get the same thing, but I've had pre-caching on forever. 5800X and a 4090 and I still hit single digit fps when delirium pops

[celest fog]

how does your launch options look in steam game properties?

[noble scarab]

i fixed it by just doing LD_PRELOAD=" "

instead of ""

[celest fog]

that is so weird but i'm glad it works for you 😂 i'll keep it in mind, thank you

[noble scarab]

yeah i have genuinely no idea why that fixes it

but the framerate issue deosnt happen anymore and the command doesnt crash my game on launch

it was a "if this works im going to kill someone" moment for sure

[keen terrace]

Weirdly I have no problems at all running via steam Proton experimental. Using Vulkan Oo

[dull oriole]

That’s due to steam changing ld path to include their bs hooks for recording games and it’s full of memory leaks.

[outer pagoda]

^ as above, steam has a new Replay feature which continuously records the game, even while disabled, for whatever reason this turns the overlay into a timebomb that eventually makes all cpu cycles take 50ms

both through proton, and native, dota's console prints errors every frame about SDL taking 50.0ms, f1 in poe1/2 shows 50ms for cpu time

LD_PRELOAD="" just makes the overlay not load

so no shift+tab

it does also mean you need to remove LD_PRELOAD="" if you intend to use poe's mtx shop

[celest fog]

just to clarify, i think me and divine were talking about LD_PRELOAD=" " working for him and LD_PRELOAD="" crashing his game, but that's very informative @outer pagoda

and also very strange because i use the recording feature and i've had poe2 open for like 10 hours and my cpu is at 10ms

[outer pagoda]

i think its a bizarre symptom of the overlay doing something else with replays

like it's constantly trying to hook in despite replay being disabled

[celest fog]

certainly a bug then

[outer pagoda]

its a pretty old one, i've had it since replay came out

surprised they havent worked it out & patched it

[keen terrace]

So I tried running exile poe2 trade overlay but it just doesn't work. Probably because it doesn't regocnize the poe window since it's running in his own wine instance. Does someone have it running? Maybe put both poe and overlay into bottles?

[celest fog]

which trade overlay are you talking about?

if you are talking about exiled exchange 2 you have to download the appimage not the exe

[outer pagoda]

started happenning to me now

incredibly annoying trying to do 4th lab

[keen terrace]

Are you running poe2 via steam Proton?

[idle nimbus]

Yep... it's so random

I'm inclined to believe it's server-side

Cause I'll play for 12h with not a single crash

Then get crashes every 5 minutes

Few hours like that, everything working fine

[strong kraken]

afaik it works by detecting the item in your clipboard, regardless of where poe itself is.

[dull oriole]

I want to get a new monitor for my linux gaming rig, currently on an RTX4090 and playing through steam. I know there is a good bit of display tech like Gsync freesync and so on, curious if poe2 supports them all. On my primary workstation I have a large wide aspect ratio monitor but POE felt like it just kinda zoomed in more, didn't really feel like I had more viewing area really.

Can you get more viewing area with more resolution in poe? What aspect ratios / resolutions provide this, if any?

[celest fog]

yeah, if you downloaded the appimage thats the file for linux, you don't have to run anything on wine other than the game

[celest fog]

are you using the standalone client? i'd have to test if that's the case

[keen terrace]

I try out the app image

[celest fog]

sweet let me know if it works 😅

[pale bison]

Does that mod that makes your drops’ name colorful and bigger work on Linux?

I wanted to install it on my steamdeck

[celest fog]

you mean the loot filter?

it's just a file that goes in the config folder, not a mod, so yes

there are instructions for linux on the official github page https://github.com/NeverSinkDev/NeverSink-PoE2litefilter

[celest fog]

fox091 also made a script if you want to keep it up to date

[pale bison]

Thank you!

[keen terrace]

its working, even with i3wm (that part is tricky as hell xD)

[celest fog]

awesome 😄

[keen terrace]

sometimes i hate that window manager with games xD

because the trade overlay tries to force to be in the foreground but windowmanager says no

[strong kraken]

i wonder if it works on sway

i was going to try it but i gave up packaging it for nix. should probably just use the appimage

[keen terrace]

APPIMAGE IS GOOD

oops

[keen terrace]

ok switched to wayland plasma for test. Flawless also better for gamign stations 😄

x11 sucks if more than one monitor

[rapid ridge]

You got the overlay working under Wayland? I can't seem to get it to work in Hyprland, so I just run with --no-overlay and use the browser view.

[keen terrace]

Yeah but Wayland without tiling manager. The tiling manager is problematic since the overlay tries to force itself to the foreground and that didn't work for me

The no-overlay option is cool too didn't know it existed 😁

[rapid ridge]

Ahh, that makes sense. I noticed it always pops the window out of fullscreen. I'll die before I switch from a tiling WM, so no-overlay will have to do for now lol

[keen terrace]

yeah tiling manager is the goat

[strong kraken]

finally got around to making a nix package for exiled-exchange-2. i'll make it public soon™️

[wide shuttle]

How did you get this performance chart to show up?

[rapid ridge]

Press F1

[quartz copper]

I have shader pre-caching update literally every single day followed by an hour long shader processing. Any way to fix that without disabling this feature? Only PoE2 has this problem

[next tapir]

no other options, just disable it and forget

[strong kraken]

Yeah, waiting for valve to fix it

[keen ridge]

huh, I have a 7950 but not the 3d one and I don't recall ever seeing it mention shaders in passing

[celest fog]

i have a 3900x and it can take several minutes, so i can only imagine how long it would take for someone with a lower end cpu (or an older one)

[rapid ridge]

Shader processing happens on GPU, not CPU though right?

[rapid ridge]

Huh, never would have guessed. Neat!

Makes sense. Just had to do a bit of reading and educate myself. Thanks!

[analog phoenix]

just some additional things that are useful to know. GPUs are very good at simple* calculations and calculations that can be parallelized well.
they are absurdly fast at the calculations they are designed for, like crunching the same computations for thousands of pixels in parallel when rendering an image.

simple calculations means tasks that dont involve alot of conditions and complex logic. (shader) code compilation is a good example for more complex calculations. CPUs are much better at those.

[rapid ridge]

While I appreciate you trying to be helpful, I don't need an in-depth explainer. I've been in software development for nearly 10 years. and I'm very familiar with these concepts 😄

I just didn't know shader pre-comp happens on CPU 🤷‍♀️

[analog phoenix]

well, i hope that at least someone else gets something out of my message then

[covert galleon]

USE VULKAN

If you are getting terrible FPS with DX12 or your system is a bit older, this should drastically improve your FPS and Stability.

1. Most importantly you MUST run in windowed mode at the start.

2. Head to /SteamLibrary/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/My Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/

3. Open "poe2_production_Config.ini

4. You want your .ini to look like this, with width/height being your own.

resolution_width=1920
resolution_height=1080
renderer_type=Vulkan
fullscreen=false
maximize_window=false
borderless_windowed_fullscreen=false

Save and exit

5. When you launch the game wait for the gears to stop and the POE2 logo to appear.

6. Right click POE2 in taskbar > More > Fullscreen inside KDE. (Or your fullscreen macro.)

7. Enable FSR if you want, and done.

This will allow you to go fullscreen without it crashing rendering with Vulkan.

YOU WILL HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY TIME.

TURN OFF PRECACHING AND WIPE CACHE

1. Turn off Precaching inside steam options. Steam > Settings > Downloads (bottom) > Disable Shader Pre-Caching

2. This will vary from machine to machine, but find your POE2 Cache. Mine was located in Appdata inside the PFX folder for POE2. Clear that out, then launch the game.

3. This will take some hours to build, so expect lagging at first, but press F1 on your keyboard to bring up the overlay in game and wait for the shaders bar to finish moving and give it a shot.

After doing this, i went from 15-20 fps with constant spikes and crashes to 100 FPS with 0 issues on an i7-7700k and a 3060. Literally playing better than my windows machine now. Never a crash, and actual good performance. Seems like a lot, but it really isnt. Took me about 10 mins to do in total.

System Tested:
OS: Arch | Nvidia | Wayland
CPU: i7-7700K
GPU: RTX 3060
RAM: 32GB DDR4

FPS went from 15-20 on average to 90-107 on average.

Proton Used: GE-9-21

I also got Exile Exchange to work on Wayland using multi-monitors.

Hope this helps someone! this fixed everything for me on my main system, deck, and my AMD system.

I also have exile exchange working on multi-monitors using Vulkan. Good luck!

[celest fog]

Can't you just add the --nologo argument and then create a rule in kwin to start the poe2 window in full-screen every time instead of having to manually do it?

[strong kraken]

mfw I have to make a pr to gamescope so it works with exiled exchange

[lucid fractal]

Holy shit didn't know this existed until now. Asked for directions in global chat so many times, finally other ppl playing on linux.

Did anyone start not being able to skip shader preprocessing recently? Until a few days ago I could just skip it. Now, even without upgrading any package I'm getting long waiting times to open the game. Seeing someone else mentioned shaders recently, not sure it's the same issue. Does the issue it go away if I simply disable pre-caching?

[analog phoenix]

i never had such a popup since deactivating pre caching

[celest fog]

im not sure if this is an issue? i think the shader compilation occurs every time there's an update but i could be wrong

[strong kraken]

shader pre-caching is good in theory but valve's implementation is too buggy. they really need to let us disable it per-game

i haven't had any issues on poe2 because i already had it disabled from warframe (for these very issues lol)

[celest fog]

yeah i'd love to be able to disable it per game

oddly enough i haven't had any issues with shader pre-caching with poe2 (amd)

[celest fog]

i disabled it to try this, but i barely notice any difference in performance

[lone willow]

i get way worse perf on vulkan than dx12 on my amd gpu 🤷

[strong kraken]

same

[lucid fractal]

rly? gotta try dx12

[round ridge]

anyone get high temps on amd cards?

[celest fog]

when in game if i press alt+d it makes a sound and my mouse clicks stops working. anyone knows what this is? i haven't experienced it with any other game 🤔

im on plasma

[wide shuttle]

anyone know how to fix CPU stutters? Running arch/ryzen 5700, using proton experimental and vulkan - issue is intermittant, it'll randomly get waaayyyyyy worse

CPU is regularly sitting around 50+ms when game is in foreground (see graph, it dropped down while screensnipping)

absolutely tanking my FPS as well, going from 200+ to 50ish

[brisk geode]

It is a vulkan issue, just installed windows on an old ssd and the game is so much smoother

[compact marsh]

Usually its shaders

[wide shuttle]

so how do I precompile shaders?

[flint laurel]

I used to have this problem in the first game. Arch with ryzen 5800x.
This might seem strange or unexpected but switching the game between windowed and borderless made the problem go away for a few hours. Maybe you could try that to verify if that's the same problem although I'm honestly still not sure what that problem was and I haven't experienced this yet in poe2.
Otherwise, yeah it's almost definitely shaders. Precompilation of shaders should be done by steam automatically when you hit play in steam before the game launches. If this doesn't happen for you, there may be a setting you need to turn on. It's also possible that deleting your shader cache files for the game may allow steam to create them fresh again although I'm currently unsure where these files are stored exactly.

Out of curiosity, are you forcing a particular version of proton on the game?

[wide shuttle]

Forcing proton experimental - I've also spotted similar behaviour with switching between windowed/borderless, but it's not consistent - sometimes the issues go away, sometimes they get slightly better, sometimes nothing works!

[flint laurel]

So it looks like a similar problem on a similar cpu. I'm now realizing that I don't know whether you're in poe1 or 2. Which one are you in?
If you're in poe1, maybe it's something that was fixed even if by accident in poe2.

[wide shuttle]

i'm in poe1 (see flair besides name)

[round ridge]

i was getting insane stutters from being in general chat. hiding it did not help, i have to join a random number and just switch channels back when i need it

[wide shuttle]

will give it a shot!

[strong kraken]

have you tried the LD_PRELOAD thing?

from the proton-ge discord

FOR RANDOM LAG SPIKES/FRAMERATE DROPS AFTER 20-30 MINUTES - IT IS A STEAM ISSUE https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/11446

WORKAROUND: LD_PRELOAD="" %command%

[wide shuttle]

I have not! I'll give that a shot too

[wide shuttle]

sadly chat hasn't helped :c

[strong kraken]

rip

[wide shuttle]

coming off for the night and don't have time to test LD_PRELOAD rn, but will test first thing tomorrow morning

hopefully it'll work

[wide shuttle]

seems to have worked!

have dropped some performance, am down to 130ish from 200 before, but that's still more than playable

[strong kraken]

nice

[strong kraken]

btw keep in mind that the LD_PRELOAD="" should be at the very start of the launch parameters, otherwise it will disable stuff like gamemode or anything else that relies on preloading

e.g., LD_PRELOAD="" gamemoderun %command%

[wide shuttle]

aye aye, wasn't using anything else anyway

[marble viper]

i always skip processing shaders, today i thought i'll let it run, its been running for 2 hours now, is this normal?

[strong kraken]

removing stuff from LD_PRELOAD is pretty safe; at best it'll make something not work. adding stuff is where the real issues are

[celest fog]

isn't this the entire point of adding LD_PRELOAD="" as people are having issues with the steam overlay making the game lag?

[celest fog]

thank you 😄

[round sedge]

Hail fellow Linux players - got a couple questions.

#1 - Has anybody gotten the ultra wide screen addon working?

#2 - is there an addon that checks your stash and reports value of the items that runs under Linux?

I know there is one that lets you mouse over individual items that works under Linux, I’m looking to do a full report.

[celest fog]

which client does the 2nd for windows?

[round sedge]

Hm, can’t find it now. Thought I saw one that did that.

[celest fog]

if there's a client that does that i don't think it would be allowed by poe tos

all clients take the item info by pressing ctrl+c on them

you can hover any item and press ctrl+c and you'll get info of the item pasted to your clipboard

then clients do fancy stuff like price checking using the info copied to your clipboard

so if there's a client that is interacting with every item in your stash without you having to do anything, it's most likely not allowed

[strong kraken]

iirc steam only sets one preloaded lib, which has the problem. unless the user (or their system) has further altered LD_PRELOAD, this will do exactly that.

in the former case, the user should be knowledgeable enough to figure it out (unless it's something like gamemode, which is why I included those instructions). i've never heard of the latter case happening.

[mint yarrow]

You mean exiled exchange 2?

[strong kraken]

i've checked by setting the command to just env, and the only preloaded lib was steamoverlay.so or something like that

I'm pretty sure those are just libraries that are required by steam, not actually LD_PRELOADed

and even if they were to be preloaded, that would probably be done in a specific runtime rather than globally like the overlay

it's definitely the best fix. there are no convenient ways of just removing one library, and I highly doubt there are any system configurations where steam itself (as opposed to a runtime) is preloading anything else. you are posing a hypothetical, unsubstantiated problem with an otherwise-working solution to a very real problem, without supplying a reasonable alternative. yeah, sure, it can be a problem in an esoteric configuration, but i don't think there are any better alternatives on what to recommend.

[edgy sierra]

I mean it does fix the issue. It's tracked here https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/11446 and is tagged with the steam overlay. It's triggered by any input, mouse or keyboard, and effects games other than Path of Exile 1/2. It is not DXVK specific. If you've got a grand idea for debugging go nuts, but if someone who is effected your options are 1.) Add LD_PRELOAD="" to your launch options or 2.) enjoy 50+ms hiccups anytime you move your mouse or press a keyboard button.

[edgy sierra]

At the moment it's just not that complicated. Right now you can have an unplayable game after 20-40 minutes or a playable game for hours. I agree, workarounds are not a permanent solution but unless you've GOT a permanent solution this seems like the wrong hill to die on.

[wide shuttle]

Better question: why is it my problem to solve? The maintainers who can push as proper fix to far more people are aware of the issue and working to resolve it - and I'm not finishing this message because dka basically said it above lol

It's a workaround fix, as long as it's working I'm happy, I'll let the experts do their tinkering to resolve things properly then apply patches as available

If the workaround DID cause issues for people by removing preloads, sucks for them, but I think most people doing Linux tinkering would be aware that this isn't exactly an orthodox fix

[edgy sierra]

It's sadly the nature of open source. At the end of the day you need someone with both the gumption and the know-how to deliver a comprehensive bug report. That's why Valve has so many people on their payroll at the end of the day. I personally try my best but I'm usually lacking in one or the other.

[strong kraken]

it's more like if the audio system in your car is broken and making weird noises and you just take it out completely. yeah it has a collateral effect (no audio system), and if you do it incorrectly you can have other issues, but the actual source of the issue (bad audio system) is being fixed.

since the steam overlay shared library is not foss (afaik?), I can't go in and fix it myself, so this is the best option until valve gets around to it

(which is equivalent to the audio system not having a manual, having all the part numbers scratched off, etc.)

[strong kraken]

yeah, and the stuff steam preloads is isolated to just steam overlay functionality. unless you have some janky audio setup/preload configuration, it won't affect anything outside of that.

[outer pagoda]

see i get what you're saying but also this is what valve employees are saying to do in the dota/cs github until the replay bug is fixed

if my mechanic tells me to put black tape on my check engine light, i'm putting that black tape on

[strong kraken]

I do, because I've checked the LD_PRELOAD and that's all that's there

using specifically the launch options env >/tmp/log ; echo %command%

and then reading /tmp/log

I highly doubt steam is setting that for anything else, as it would be part of a runtime instead, and runtimes are loaded in the %command%

[outer pagoda]

yeah man please, if you think LD_PRELOAD is 'overkill' feel free to trawl the dota/csgo githubs for the same issue, the people working on the overlay have explicitly stated what the launch options does, and it is exclusively the overlay

[covert galleon]

Anyone noticed a 5GB RAM cap? Seems to always be maxed out and i have 32gb. not even using a majority of it while in the foreground.

[marble viper]

Same for me

[sweet grotto]

are there any price checking apps for linux ?

[celest fog]

exiled exchange 2

[celest fog]

how do you check?

[pure elbow]

Good evening. Sorry to bother you. I'm new to Linux. Can you tell me how to install POE trader on Arch? Thank you in advance

[strong kraken]

i assume you mean exiled exchange 2 by "POE trader". there's an appimage for it in their github releases

[shadow quartz]

I'm tired of MS bullshit and seriously thinking of switching to Linux. How is poe for example using steam ? Does it run as well as on windows ?

[fading topaz]

Runs just fine for me

[shadow quartz]

What distro do you have please ?

[craggy pendant]

On protondb it has platinum and I've seen a lot of people have quite simple success with it, without any or much tinkering
Of course there will be people with some issues as well

[fading topaz]

I'm on Arch, but I don't recommend that for beginners unless you're really committed

[shadow quartz]

I heard of it, I think I'll pass for now, thank you

[craggy pendant]

For me it worked with no modifications (other than choosing Proton experimental), I use TuxedoOS

[shadow quartz]

I'll check it out, thank you

[craggy pendant]

You could also go to protondb website entry for poe2 (or poe1 if that's your interest) and each entry usually has note on that user's setup at the time of report submission. You could observe some OSs to try there

But in general right now, if a game doesn't have a needlessly heavy anticheat it will work just fine through steam on Linux

[shadow quartz]

I think I'll be fine then, thank you !

[marble viper]

Download the .appimage, chmod +x exiled.appimage to give it execute rights, and run it ./exiled.appimage

[idle nimbus]

Anyone experiencing weird issues from today?

[strong kraken]

yeah, i've been experiencing that for a couple days now

not sure if it's just coincidence, but disabling chats seemed to help

i feel like it lagspiked every time it had to display a chat message

[magic talon]

Does DLSS works for anyone playing on standalone client through lutris?

[celest fog]

Yeah I have no idea why this happens. I don't have the steam overlay running (used the LD_PRELOAD workaround), don't have the global chat enabled, tried with both Vulkan/DirectX12, etc. I had constant hiccups of 50+ ms on the CPU from the moment I started playing with my character. A few days ago I made a new character, the stuttering went away, now I'm in the endgame with the new character, no stuttering. And I haven't changed a thing, I haven't cleared the shader cache, changed game options, upgraded my system, nothing, it went away on it's own when I started playing my new character. It's also important to note that my previous character was a merc, and some people have noticed that when you have lots of skill/support gems the game starts doing huge calculations and those hiccups begin (even on Windows), and changing the order of the support gems have helped some people. I also heard switching to random global chats and then hiding it (using /global [number]) has helped some, which might be MithicSpirit's case.

[idle nimbus]

So... apparently the Steam Overlay is buggered now so you'd actually want it enabled, as far as I understand

[celest fog]

I've tried with both on and off, it didn't seem to make a difference but maybe I need to do more testing. Right now I have it disabled in a way that Steam detects that PoE 2 is running, but it doesn't show my status.

[idle nimbus]

Fair enough

Steam has been weird for the last few months

[full agate]

Someone help me please! I just bought the game and I can’t play lol…. I’m on steam deck and whenever I try and launch the game it won’t even go past the gear cogs before it just crashes. Probably my 20th attempt now at launching on top of looking for some help the last hour and a half lol hoping someone can offer guidance so I don’t have to refund 😦

[tulip seal]

There’s some slow down for certain effects like flame wall. But over all it’s okay.

That’s assuming you’re using vulkan with an amdgpu.

I might need to switch to dx12 to see if it improves for me lol

[shadow quartz]

I have an AMD GPU luckily

[celest fog]

which proton version are you using? try with proton experimental

[celest fog]

i think most people agree that dx12 runs better than vulkan but I didn't find a significant difference, maybe like 10 fps more on dx12

[vocal ember]

is anyone else here having their game go slow-motion due to some sort of network issue mid map? it stays like this for me for 1-2minutes of slow-motion play, then the game catches up for that time lost, goes 5+ seconds of unable to control character, and i either die or end up 10 screens away

[round epoch]

Anyone here on manjaro? Whats perf like on proprietary vs open source and in general any issues

[strong kraken]

I assume you mean proprietary v. open source nvidia drivers?

[round epoch]

Just in general

I run amd

But have a second system i can put either card in and am looking for opinions as i havent used linux in a long time and manjaro is my preferred OS

[rapid ridge]

Largely depends on the generation of the card. Newer generations (Turing and up) should generally use nvidia-open(-dkms/etc.). See https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA

I'm not super familiar with Manjaro specifically, but I can't think of a reason it would be any different than stock Arch. FWIW nvidia-open has been great for me on a 40 series card

[outer pagoda]

on 30's series debian/ubuntu/mint for me the -open drivers were a soft brick and didnt boot into Xorg

also you need beta drivers if you're on xorg and using a kernel version newer than 6.11 i believe

[round epoch]

Manjaro is just arch with a pre packaged UI of your choosing basically, i use to use it like 4 years ago and also had it on 2 systems both ran the same cpu but gpu was diff mesa was always good on amd but every couple updates i had to reinstall nvid one and change from open to pro because some bullshit stuff happened

[undone stone]

Is it normal for the game to Validate so often? Every day, sometimes more than once a day too

[craggy pendant]

Is it following a download of pre-cached shaders?

[undone stone]

Might be ye, I should probably disable those

[rapid ridge]

That's why I said I couldn't think of any reason it would be different than on Arch.

nvidia-open just went "stable" and recommended for Turing+ a few months back. Might be worth another try.

Nowadays the Arch package properly blocklists the mesa driver, does modest=1, etc. automatically. It's fairly plug and play with maybe some minor tweaks for Wayland.

Once I followed that Arch wiki page above, I haven't had to touch it outside of switching to open-beta (and then open) several months back.

[round ridge]

has anyone had trouble with exiled exchange working only a couple times then suddenly wont open ?

[celest fog]

and it's running in the background?

[round sedge]

So PoE1 was working just fine this morning. Was trying to get PoE2 working (and failing miserably, blank screen, but TBH didn't do much of anything) and gave up and tried to go back to PoE1. All I'm getting now is a blank screen on start as well. Any suggestions on where to start? I've tried several proton versions with no changes, verified the files (it redownloaded about 540, but no change), and updated/rebooted my system. (Much to my chagrin, I'm using Fedora, because it's the only relatively stable distro that works with my current hardware reliably)

Found my profile in .local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/238960/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/My Documents/My Games and renamed it, game came back. Pshew!

Still didn't fix PoE2, mind you...

[celest fog]

hardware?

[round sedge]

NVidia 4070, AMD 7600x, 32gb ram

[fading topaz]

Which GPU are you trying to run it on?

[celest fog]

did you switch the renderer from Vulkan to DirectX12 in your poe2_production_Config.ini file?

[round sedge]

Nope, but I guess that's next. I just got the beta yesterday and haven't really played with it yet.

[celest fog]

Steam?

[round sedge]

Yep.

[celest fog]

Edit the file ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/poe2_production_Config.ini and change the line that says renderer_type=Vulkan under [DISPLAY]to renderer_type=DirectX12

[round sedge]

Looking for the file right now.

That appears to have worked! Thanks!

[celest fog]

awesome have fun ❤️

[raw rampart]

Anyone know how to install a loot filter?Have no clue where the game is taking me when I open the foler button

[craggy pendant]

Try #linux-🐧 message

[raw rampart]

Thanks! Now I'm getting the error "There is no Windows program configured to open this type of file"

Am I missing something?

[raw rampart]

Somehow got it to work, no idea what did it

[raw rampart]

The server lag dropped by a ton after activating the loot filter, is this normal?

[keen tusk]

might be your client not being able to keep up with the server when displaying that much loot

[analog phoenix]

shouldnt be relevant if you dont drop an absurd amount of loot

[raw rampart]

I've been running with 70+% item drop rate from tablets + drop rate on waystone

My screen is usually covered in items that I can't even see the ground half the time lol

Especially after breaches

I've crashed out of instances quite a bit

[heady robin]

Does anyone have any clue why PoE 2 only works on Proton 8.0-5 for me? The game doesn't even start on every other Proton version including Experimental, Hotfix, GE etc. I'm playing on laptop, have Ubuntu 24.10 with Nvidia GPU and Intel CPU, Wayland and DirectX12 mode.

[strong kraken]

try checking the logs

oh also make sure you delete the compatdata when you change proton version