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I am using Arch btw
Thanks, so, just play and hope that I get a gud path?
Yup
Which wine version are you using? the original wine or the lutris version?
Plus respeccing will be more accessible
I don't know which version is, because, I'm just running a wrapper made by CachyOS team
Ahh got it
I just won't bother at all to deal with Wine versioning, and, download the CachyOS-Meta-gaming package
And, come with this umu-proton wine
yeah, but each game runs differently I think
For the name, probaly a Pronto wrapper
there is a wine version that enables custom scaling
Speaking so....
Control-V is not working π’
My passwords are 20 character long
Damn
Wait
Now that I'v seen
BRUH
I DOWNLOADED THE WRONG GAME
For real
I'v downloaded from PoE1 site
you still have time
π
I don't think you should be seeing a significant performance difference just because you're launching it through one or the other
It depends
They're both using wine/proton under the hood
Where it matters more is the version of these things
But, generally speaking, Proton is more optimal for games, than Wine
Due to be build only for games
And Wine is more "wide" variety of apps
I hope there won't be a patch
Hopping that Brazil servers collaborates, and download the game quickly
I'm in EU, I think here will be the worst
my beloved laptop
My network is okay
is that KDE?
No, it's Hyprland
But, that app is Mission Control
You can download it via Flatpak
It's a very good app to monitoring
Feels like Windows Task Manager
I like the one on Gnome, but I will switch DE, because Gnome is garbage
been a user for over 4 years, and it has become a real pain
KDE Plasma is nice
are you guys counting on steam, or is anybody in here rocking the standalone client through proton somehow?
Plasma updates and breaks working things. Switching my gaming setup back to xfce like all the rest at some point.
lets gooo!!
how did you get that to run on linux when steam is still unavailable?
something with my steam is borked, so running lutris with the windows standalone
Anyone here already done the work of crafting up a command in UMU?
People are using tools like Lutris and Bottles to run the standalone client
Bull shit that steam isn't letting us open the game. Meanwhile everyone else will queue ahead in line on every other platform.
Just one more reason not to use it
Honestly I wouldn't even worry too much about the queue. They've already had to reset it a few times, and if there's server issues after launch, people will get booted anyways
Did you not even read #old-game-news
Or were you talking about something else
And yeah, there's a decent chance there'll be another reset of the queue
Sure I've seen dozens of posts, now I just have to hope that my client unlocks it like it's suppose to, and doesn't decide to auto update or some other stuff.
Irrelevant though I'm figuring out how it runs apps and testing out some alternatives now. Lutris might be frozen though, been installing game data a long time.
Steam. Not an issue. It's how it works
so i've preloaded the game but the path of exile 2 folder is actually empty... intended?
Yeah. Steam encrypts the data. It's probably elsewhere in your steam directory until release
that sucks.
Cool we get to pay aes taxes on top of running on Linux
Just to "protect" some files that are already on windows machines everywhere
Go download the main client then
So the process is we wait for the game to be enabled on steam, then steam sends us the key and our steam clients begin to decrypt the files and move them to the game dir.
That's what I'm working on, I just realized Lutris is another middleman that wants to cloud sync and everything else. Just trying to get down to the essence of what is actually happening when steam launches games.
So we have to wait for 60 gigabytes of decryption while others login? lol
If you're running an SSD it shouldn't take too long
Personally I think being able to even log-on within the first 3 hours will be a victory. If you are sweating queue depth already you may be in for a bad time.
i am kinda contempt with not being able to play tonight myself
Yeah honestly don't worry about it too much. You'll get to play soon enough.
if i do get to play tonight, i will count it as a blessing
I'm okay with accepting any roadblocks on behalf of the POE team. Less interested in fighting with the distribution practices and bundling of garbage with the middlemen.
im just gonna try to get it working on Lutris for now. steam later.
tbf steam should be pretty plug and play
it should but if the queue is going to be 6 digits long...
before i can even boot the game
I hear you, but this is just steam doing it's thing. It has a standard process for this stuff. GGG offering an alternative non-steam client isn't steams fault.
seen photos with queues being not even 5 digits yet on #2βearly-access
like 20 mins ago
for now
I just want to type a command and run the game. Steam has left a bad taste in my mouth since the change they made that started bad frame lag. The feature with the automatic recording of all games at all times without any user consent enabled by default. No idea wtf they were thinking. Rage inducing boldness from my perspective.
when was this change?
Guess they feel pressure to keep up with the cancer known as windows which does the same thing.
You can disable that. I did immediately. Was crashing my games
Yea, I didn't know it was happening. Unfortunately it was published right after a POE update so I thought it was probably POE.
You didn't get a notification about that change? It sent me one
I didn't even know it was a thing, just found it in settings and it was defaulted to off on arch
It gave me notification and I would have had to opt in to enable it. You just pressed ok I guess π
that crap ain't enabled by default
Had they been transparent, had they notified me they were writing to my disk, leaking memory, etc, had they simply made it opt-in... instead of forcing me to use it. I would have known about the change and disabled it. They didn't, so fuck them, to be frank.
good luck
They probably did notify you
where's the setting?
If you have to enable your feature by default to make sure It's used so your Q4 MBO can kick in, you are the problem with tech industry atm.
wait "game recording" it's already off...
Good job you turned it off, or they rolled back on by default.
i didn't
yeah idk what Sweat is doing, it isn't defaulted to on
Yeah I think Sweat is trolling. Not on by default and they sent a notification when they added it
you're talking out of your ass
it wasn't.
It was, period (for me). You can think as you want. I know it was enabled. I only discovered it after strace'ing processes and then found the setting enabled.
then you enabled it and didn't realize it.
you probably didnt notice the introduction of the feature
I don't have time for this guy on this lovely friday night.
Even the steam FAQ says you need to enable it my guy
Again, they backed the change out or A/B tested and I got unlucky.
It's definitely opt in
there will likely be no justice for you on this matter
Maybe they selected hardware with certain specs. I don't really care. Both me and my girlfriend had it on by default.
maybe a ghost
you sleepwalk
What ascendancy is everyone going first?
blocked, peace.
monk airbender guy
I kinda wanna go Titan... but maybe Warbringer? it's hard to decide now.
I'm gonna wait for poe2 full launch so I'll be doing a necromancer in poe1 
some witch stuff probably, let's try to get into the game first...
I'm still debating between Chayula Monk and Witchhunter
titan for that dual two hander action
Chayula does seem powerful - the ascendencies are introduced at different points in the first 3 acts correct?
@ 66MB/s right now. tryin' to race my way into queue lmao.
Not sure currently. I think the trials are in act 2 and 3. But can't be sure
Have you guys looked at the tree data? Some of these nodes are really powerful
yes, chayula seems to incentivize a more blood thirsty gameplay, constantly leeching to keep mana and shield up, which might be quite fun
it begins
Rewrite it in Rust
GIMP chad
I'll be laughing all the way to the execution unit while your Python code takes 83 instructions to add two integers
I don't know man, that energy machine looks unsafe { }
anyone running an intel Arc A750?
Yeah I don't care for it
it's pretty good for getting PoB running
and battle net
but i don't really use it for anything else.
i try to keep everything on Steam if I can
Use manjaro
wanted to download the game beside the steam version, just to be sure. Downloaded it, and after opning it black screen
I hope yo uare kidding...
gross
joking or..?
no.
Please refrain from turning this channel into a flame war
my 2nd distro ever, that's the shittiest distro
fair lol
I am a nobara gnome enjoyer
And suddenly, dropped from queue
they say they are resetting queue a few times @vivid fog
i'm on Nobara KDE
90% chance the system will break after update, like you need the bible in your hand and have proper backups
it's so nice
debian, ubuntu , arch, nix or nobara are pretty good imo
fedora
Manjaro can be stable. As long as you don't use AUR. But why even use Manjaro then?
next time I install my OS it'll be Endeavour or Arch depending on how lazy im feeling at the time
Manjaro has been nothing but stable
Actually I am planning to move away from Endeavour after 2 years
Gamed on it for years now
if you're going to use something like Manjaro I would just use Garuda or Cachy.
steam is moving!!
I do think Manjaro gets too much hate tbh. It's fine imo
elaborate.
Manjaro gets way too much hate because users don't understand that not everything from the AUR can be used
all you need to do is search reddit, you will find your answer how stable it is
also i have launched the game
it is downloading the 84Gb again
so they break their machines
you might be just lucky
I think it's decrypting
that is just disk right? it is decrypting
this sounds like confirmation bias
but if you've had problems i mean /shrug
didn't it cause issues with the repos? there was a thing where it was actaully causing issues to like, Arch stuff.
i could be misremembering.
they pissed off a lot of maintainers
iirc
each key press in their gui package manager was sending a request to the arch repo servers from memory.
ah this one. >
Their package updating stuff ddosed the AUR multiple times leading to downtime
Yeah I remember that lol
do I need to restart steam, or will it automatically decode the game?
it took a restart for me
No need to restart. Might just take a bit
steam restart was needed for me too, but kicked off the decryption automatically then
Yeah. It was same for me. Just now started the download. Don't worry
I mean go for it if you're worried lol
just guessing: did you activate your key at steam?
restart steam
GGG thought the load was heavy before, next minute steam unlocks 800,000 new players
worked for me
kicked in
it will make it
i hope they do a queue reset
Didn't they say they would?
what proton
no i dont think so
have you tried any GE?
No
I can tell you in 07:30m
standalone queue is also down now
im going to try to get it going with the latest GE
I'm going ge9-20 first try
getting patched rn
also i couldn't get the standalone working through lutris. probably a skill issue.
Also, love you guys, i laughed real hard getting into distro talk in PoE2 channel
lol
Hi, anyone else getting a black screen with poe cursor when launching poe2 via steam?
where can you choose the proton version?
I took the latest lutris installer script for poe1 and did some minor modification. worked until login screen
properties compatability
You can force the application to launch using a specific version in steam library properties for the game, or in the Steam settings to choose which proton version to use
i did with the standalone i haven't gotten the game unpacked yet... but i just manually installed through the exe installer in wine
do you have nvidia?
got it running in lutris, had to switch to DX12 from vulkan while on nvidia card, just a black screen with vulkan
yup
might be the issue
thank you
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Looks like the game launched successfully on my PopOS box via Steam π
experimental proton?
Any other CRT chads?
steam nvidia no problems launching
lol
ew lol
CHAD BEHAVIOUR
affirmative ( Linux pop-os 6.9.3-76060903-generic using an AMD 7700 non-x with a 78800XT)
1998 called
On TuxedoOS it is also launching, installed through Wine, launched as a Non-steam game in steam with Proton Experimental!
they want their monitor back
i just bought a 21:9 34 inch it's still in transit. i wish i was going to be here in time though
we have a few crt at the hackerspace, play duck hunty on it and some retro games.
shit, this was the same issue for me
Older kernels and Nvidia can have problems launching the game.
soooze
I have the lts kernels and open nvidia drivers
Is everyone else waiting for login button to work?
yep
TuxedoOS + Steam + Nvidia launched fine
dont do me like that
YEES THE GAME WORKS
im gonna go make second breakfast i think. i need more coffee.
what is downloading here?
nabufest
Good luck everyone. See you in the end game.
If you relaunch it shows info
me. i'm gonna play through your computer because mu shit isn't unpacked yet
Mine didnβt show anything till relaunch
That is just my experience
I got PoE running on Debian 12 with Nvidia. But it had some serious problems which had me upgrading to more gamer-friendly OS.
For people getting black screen(with nvidia i guess) you have to change renderer_type=Vulkan to DirectX12 in ~/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2
THANK YOU
running arch ofc
same
I took a little nap so im behind on the unpacking
47%
this one's running ubuntu because of work...
i'm at the login screen
well, if it doesn't, at least you'll be able to fix it.
Same
excuses, working as a dev running arch on everything i own xD including my server
ge9-20, flawless
oh, 40 seconds timer
Unexpected error still
Had to do this, but yeah ge20 works perfectly
same here
lol, been a while since I got 405's from a game company's website
Well time to get coffee I guess
game's running, that's all I needed to know, off to the pub.
IT WORKS
idi you get in?
nvidia popos proton-experimental
#linux-π§ If you have black screen in Steam and are using Vulkan:
ββGo to steam settings > Download > Allow Background processing of Vulkan shaders
Vulkan compiles shaders at startup
I'M IN
In game?
looking at the spinning gears right now
I can't connect to server
yeah
copied this form poe1 gamemoderun %command% --nologo --waitforpreload
Are you guys using proton-experimental or what?
Oh yeah. Nah it's been running the whole time for me. Servers are Fucked though
yeah
Yes Proton experimental
Thanks!
GE9-20 here
Wayland, Proton Experimental, Vulkan, Gnome Desktop with VRR enabled
I was not running POE1 with --nologo --waitforpreload. Any significant improvement besides initial load?
yes, loading maps took 3-4 sec longer but no hickuops ever again...
I dont experience hickups with dynamic resolution
thanks mate it works now
yeah they're not up yet i thin
No worries β€οΈ
Sorry for bothering you.
In your case, vulkan or dx11, nvidia or amd?
I am running arch on wayland and saw this recommended as a performance improvment. Anyone have exeperience with it?
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope
nvidia, vulkan
ha, now the "downloading.." disappeared and showed a banner. we are going forward!
first few minutes of the landing screen was very sound poppy and audio-laggy but it's been getting better slowly.
also i got my first shader processing
this planet has 2 real game studios, larian and ggg.
Fromsoft too
i mean there's a few others.
anyones card going insane at the login screen lol?
ok, fromstof can join too
in "poe2_production_Config.ini"? because that file is empty for me :S
I haven't bothered with gamemode. Never seen any notable difference with it
same
Damn I was shitting myself, only had solid 11FPS
I'm running Steam on Lutris and the game is crashing. 1 second of "gears sound" and then it crashes. What do I do :/
Needed to change proton version and reboot
everyone still unable to connect?
All I use gamemode for is to switch up CPU governors. I have my cpupower min-freq set to 3ghz and keep my governor on powersave for desktop usage, set governor to performance for games.
Yes
not even their site launches so doubt we could connect to game at all
need more time for them to do the magical backend stuff
i mean we knew that was coming lol
yeah, especially so for a beta/EA AND with so many people concurrently
you reboot?
It works!!
Anyone using steam or Lutris? I get a crash after 1 second of loading the cursor
Laptop GPUs are so weak, I have an nvidia 4060, i9 13 generation, 32GB ram, and only have 70fps
2024/12/06 20:11:48 201759 daa6b5a0 [INFO Client 288] [STARTUP] Registration in 0.419285 seconds
2024/12/06 20:11:48 201985 74d0f220 [WARN Client 288] L[VIDEO] Failed to open Bink file "Art/Videos/cinematic_video.bk2"
2024/12/06 20:11:49 202064 db2b0f7b [INFO Client 288] [VULKAN] acquire: vk::Device::acquireNextImageKHR: ErrorOutOfDateKHR
2024/12/06 20:11:49 202100 db2b0f7b [INFO Client 288] [VULKAN] acquire: vk::Device::acquireNextImageKHR: ErrorOutOfDateKHR
2024/12/06 20:11:49 202103 db2b0f7b [INFO Client 288] [VULKAN] acquire: vk::Device::acquireNextImageKHR: ErrorOutOfDateKHR
I'm getting this in my log file, someone adviced me to change to DirectX, but how can i do that if i can't even get into the main menu?
(i'm running client through Steam)
So far so good. (AMD, 7600XT) card fans go brrr, though. Normal?
Unsure, you might google it or test -force-vulkan
The game started for me, I changed from Vulkan to DX12 in the game settings
create the missing file and paste:
[DISPLAY]
renderer_type=DirectX12
oh boj. yes. I use my PC as a heat element π
Is that actually in-game, or just on the login screen?
Confirmed works for my Nvidia GPU friend. I have AMD and it just works for me on Vulkan.
just a login (do not think anybody managed to login yet :D)
Got it working. Vulkan didn't load anything for me other than the cursor. Switching to DX12 helped.
anyone running an Intel Arc GPU?
crickets
funny btop
Kinda default'ish. Changed couple things in the menu
i think the missing video file is not an error.
Where would i put the config file with
"[DISPLAY]
renderer_type=DirectX12 "
??
Using Proton Experimental
<path to wine prefix>/drive_c/users/<user>/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/poe2_production_Config.ini
On top of this, enabling gamescope works for those having black screen on Nvidia
Woah the linux community, the brains of all PC users
The real OGs only use TempleOS
Not religious mate
you don't run your games through emacs? π
I run them directly in TTY, only way
Depends, I like Vulkan but certain games won't run
I usually see perf boost using vulkan
Press F1 to see the FPS counter and check CPU/GPU temps on login screen.
I believe nobody have tested it ingame yet
I'd generally recommend Vulkan if you can get it working
see you guys after a few beers
Didn't know if vulkan was borked for AMD, too.
Also, DLSS often has problems I don't use DLSS
Dont "I play poe drunk btw" me, please
Vulkan is working good for launcher screen lol
lol
I had problems with Proton Experimental. Even after changing to DX12. Proton-GE-Custom did the job for me
I thought booze and launch days was a time-honored tradition?
You must have been sent from the gods
I think it's mandatory. Big Brother is watching
vulkan is native on amd iirc
it is
black screen on
"nerd font mono"
Find my message from earlier
switch to dx 12 - scroll up
Looks like I got 4fps
Try gamescope + DX12 if you are using NVIDIA
If just DX12 didn't work
My config
80fps on login screen when uncapped, ultrawide
How many fps do you have?
around 90ish in login, 120ish in poe1
second vulkan shader processing. at least those are being pushed while we wait
What is the Bloom setting?
flashbang on granades
I have a similar system and only got 65
Clean your fans, change your thermal paste, dismiss process using resources
How unfortunate that we cant disable antialiasing
I feel like AA performs bad when upscaled
With Proton-GE-Custom.
Is it a font issue for us, or does it behave like that in Windows too?
yep, also:
I'm running it via steam
How? Any specific configuration? Mine keeps crashing after 1 second of sound (cogs/gears)
its same in windows
Thank you
I've found some weird bugs already XD
Thats a relief
You say you're running Steam on Lutris? Why aren't you running native Steam? Do you get the proton options through Steam?
Checking the hide email during login option crashes the game
Maybe running it with Wine and specific config makes the difference
No idea, I never gamed on linux. This is the first time
It just works
and you cannot assign anything from the numpad to any input.
Enable proton logs
chad
but I've been a linu user for 4 years... :))
still a chad
why is there a hotfix?
Hey guys, planning on doing some couch coop. Is anyone able to assign two controllers to the two profiles in the settings ? I can assign either of the two on one profile, but as soon as one is selected, the other controller cannot get assigned to the other profile. Thanks!
using proton-GE here. running through gamemoderun and changed the render mode to DX12 in the poe2_production_Config.ini
are you running two instances of the game?
Besides the gamemode run, this is the setup that worked for me 
no just one
Okay for me the best proton version is the hotfix one
I wasn't aware that the game had local co-op functionality
i've not used windows since 2019, went 100% linux then, i've had my fair share of linux servers long before tho
I did, where can I find the log?
It should have, in the settings you can select a controller device for "controller #1" and "controller #2". I can assign them both to a profile but once it's done, the other profile won't let me select the controller
In your home
Run ls ~/ | grep steam
You should have something like steam-3340480.log
Performance with DirectX12 is pretty bad tbh, is Vulkan gonna be better for Linux?
its rng, some games/ systems are better with vulkan others prefer dx12
I got the exact same performance, but cant start the game with Vulkan, only with DX12.
as of current, a good number of nvidia gpu users are having issues with vulkan
how do you know you got the same performance with Vulkan if you ca'nt start the game?
You can change it in game
gotta optimize for that login screen performance
is that in general or for PoE 2 specifically?
that being said, I was able to change to vulkan after starting the game in menu, it just didn't work after restarting
exactly
Sorry I couldnt find anything relevant. I am not advanced in that. The error feels a bit generic.
Have you tried using proton-GE? What version are you running?
I assume the problem is Wayland + Nvidia + Vulkan. Since we seem to all be Wayland users. And the one person who could use Vulkan with Nvidia was using X11
that makes even more sense, because I know that wayland is more likely to have issues with vulkan on nvidia than x11 is
That makes sense, but if you really want vulkan it seems to work if you swap once you are in game.
I'm not sure if that actually swaps the renderer though, or if that'd require a restart
I started out with Proton Experimental, which didn't work. Then I installed Proton Hotfix, and then it worked. I could not connect and at some point I closed the game. From this point onward, it stopped working π¦
it seems like it does due to the black screen behind menus for a moment and then loading, but who knows
It does swap it, it borks the ui for me for a few seconds π
yeah same here
I'm doing a validation of files now, but I doubt that it will work
Proton hotfix, Vulkan has the best performance
no one can log in so idk what you changed but what are your specs
like if you got it to work once...
what did you do lol
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2694490/discussions/0/594008672803288499/ this fixed it for me, I can switch to Vulkan in game as well and it doesn't crash at least but start up apparently needs DX12
Switching proton experimental to bleeding edge fixed it for me Just search for proton on you library --> properties --> betas --> bleeding edge Let me know if it worked for you EDIT: This also worked Go to the proton prefix and find the file poe2_production_Config.ini. Then change renderer_type to DirectX12 Inside your steam folder. In my case ~...
Nobody can connect yet.
"Our current time estimates should have access opening within the next half hour"
- Said GGG half hour ago
ok
You are not alone
Yup, Exactly as we said here.
TPB singlehandedly DDosing the servers rn lol
Funny thing is the steam version has Vulkan as default, and it didnβt do the black screen
Check discussion link above. It suggests using bleeding edge proton
what gpu and are you wayland or x11?
yeah. though i swapped to DX12 to make sure it didn't cause issues later.
X11, nvidia has no proper support on wayland
same for me, gtx 2070s, wayland
explicit sync has been implemented
Wayland is terrible even for AMD users
that's likely why. honestly I haven't been having too many issues with nvidia on wayland
idk about you but i never had issues with wayland
can you try to launch the game with your integrated gpu?
and i'm on nvidia
People on LTS have to use X11 because no Wayland support for Nvidia GPUs. I had the same problem with Debian 12.
wayland has been in a pretty good spot for me on zen
wayland has been giving me such random issues that I just gave up on it for now and will revisit in a few years
On the official Nvidia website there are discussions going on, but I canβt pull out those right now
nobara doesn't even ship with xorg by default
Been using wayland with Nvidia for like a year now and no issues apart from hibernation(suspend works).
well yeah they have things they want to work on, but like... it does work, at least on Nobara.
yeah it depends on many variables
I use Fedora Silverblue + Wayland + Gnome + Nvidia just fine
thank you guys!! life savers
interestingly there were some patches that didn't download until I restarted the game? or maybe those were shaders disguised as patches?
With wayland:
screensharing doesnt work
RDP doesnt work
keyboard doesnt work
Tearing happens without a good workaround
Compositor sucks
Almost everything you said works fine for me
RDP, Screen sharing, keyboard, no tearing
yeah the issue is when it doesn't work for everyone, not when it works for some
IIRC RDP was not even implemented in wayland
Screensharing works for me without a problem
RDP works for me without a problem
I dont even knwo what keyboard not working means π
I havent noticed tearing
And Hyprland is great.
The problem is not with wayland, itβs with Nvidia not implementing proper support
How do you even get tearing in wayland
RDP is the default remote desktop on Gnome Wayland. So it works
discord-canary just implemented native screensharing with wayland too less than a week ago
About keyboard, I mean that it does not have enough features to customize and remap keys as X11 does.
no wayland issues with 560.35.03 ..
Do it at the keyboard level? Get a keyboard with QMK/VIA or ZMK
Turns out it becomes unviable to have non-standard mappings. Imagine typing çãà Ñó" ´ ` '
btw, I got like 10-20% more fps with protonge20 over proton experimental. Just throwing it out here.
Deadkeys
that's not necessarily something that should even be within wayland's scope though
you mean like ΔΕ‘ΔΕΕΎΓ½Γ‘ΓΓ©
The goal of Wayland is to shed some of the excess features and have them be external tools that integrate into wayland
ΓͺαΊ½ΔΕ works fine. Am on dk-latin1.
you've gotta remember, wayland is just supposed to be the protocol, stuff like keyboard stuff should be handled by something other than wayland
I can't remember the word, but agreed
Wayland is a protocol that compositor implementations follow
Mutter Kwin etc
too bad you cant disable GSP in nvidia open
Regardless, having everything inside X11 caused s shit ton of security issues and problems. Wayland is built by X11 devs. It's not like it's done group of inexperienced wannabes.
If you have a card from NV160 or newer, the nvidia open is recommended
I believe I read that Wayland is also pushed forward by Steam devs 
I dont mean that the team is bad. Just that it does not have enough stuff implemented yet and enough customization
and Arch
I have no doubt Wayland is the way to go, just I won't be touching it until what I want to work on it works
and I don't mind sitting on it a few years
And Gnome and KDE default to it nowadays even for Nvidia
Debian 12 defaulting to Wayland was a bit of pain because of no Nvidia support.
honestly, steam has done so much heavy lifting for gaming as a whole on linux, let alone wayland
plasma 6 has been awesome tho
yeah I really like Plasma
even though I moved away from neon, I still use kde on tuxedo
I decided to try out hyprland within the last month, and I can proudly say that I've only had to boot into windows twice for VR stuff
I will agree with you on that, but we just need to remember the goal is to have a lot of that stuff in the compositor implementations and not the protocol. Wayland is not the place for much of that. Just like X11s keyboard stuff is in xkb, there will be some Wayland tool that implements keyboard stuff that integrates with the Wayland protocol where needed
i have VKB sticks for other games (simulators) i bought a laptop just to configure them because their software won't run in linux and i refuse to dual boot after windows killed grub a few months ago.
...there will be some Wayland tool that implements...
When it becomes more mature I might migrate
That is fair
AFAIK there is no equivalent on wayland to /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us
X11 had had decades to get where it is. Back when it was xfree86, it had 1/10th the amount of features.
unfortunately, things like VR are just lacking on linux still, and a few other games I play like tarkov won't even run in a windows vm
I am using freerdp and with remmina on arch/wayland. It works great except for the scaling if that matters to you. I run an 8k display so the scaling sucks but its only to remote into M$ office stuff anyways so it doesnt bother me much
There is not, because it is not expected to be there. Some tool Y will add similar functionality eventually. Or the Gnome/KDE/etc will add it custom
Any other tweaks to make it work?
Edit: Or does it use X-11 bridge server?
You can dual boot, if the bootloader is in a different location. A new EFI drive should be created for grub and it will work
I mean EFI partition
I use Devolutions remote desktop manager and works great for me. Even with scaling.
Imagine using RDP to play POE
that sounds like pain
I tried to use RDP to play league and not even that works with Vanguard lol
I am guessing it uses some kind of x11 portal stuff, I am not the most familiar with compositing stuff. Networking is more my forte in linux
I dont think I installed anything else besides those two packages
Just a heads up, if you use something like Koen4k-wine-tkg and disable DXVK, you can run PoE with Vulkan just fine and no need to switch to DX12
what is your resolution? I didnt know there was any rdp stuff that scaled properly6
For me the steam version is running on vulkan, without any additional config
isn't DXVK just for dx11 or lower?
RDP of Exile
Interesting. I might give it a try later when I get in touch with wayland again.
In my experience these packages worked for X11, but not worked with wayland. I might have done something wrong and/or things might have changed
Can you share POE screen on discord with wayland?
tbh I would switch to X11 if I were to use Moonlight and Sunshine
yep
Ya but most of the time it is comboed with vkd3d for dx12. And many people including myself have black screen issues on Epic or Standalone if you use Vulkan with DXVK/VKD3D.
For obvious reasons
Ahh now I remember
The RDP protocol itself does not do proper scaling. Just how it was originally designed. Remmina the client scales just fine on wayland
you should be able to in canary as it's said to have it working natively as of a week or two ago, and there's a dozen discord clients that have screensharing functionality through being web clients with feature parity. the only reason base discord doesn't have working screensharing is due to the electron version it uses
7680 Γ 2160. And I think the scaling is handled by the client, not the protocol, yes
screensharing has been fixed as far as i know, but i use a custom client so cant confirm xD
https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/171fnxd/wayland_discord_screensharing/
I see people having issues with that even in december/2024. Which the solution is to run the X-Bridge inside wayland
I am not sure about screensharing POE, I never looked into it. I am a super casual gamer
https://github.com/Vencord/Vesktop 100 times better
vesktop is delightful
Ya I use Vesktop or Webcord
Latest discord works for me. Use experimental public beta and I can record
On wayland
I see people love them, specially for customizing appearance. But Idk feels a bit scary to use and get banned. I believe nobody has been banned for that yet
I only use it for Wayland and pipewire support. I don't do any of the custom nonsense
Or plugins
you mean the message ? yes
Yeah, the message has changed
discord has said that while it is against ToS, that's mainly only in there to stop malicious use of modifications, and they haven't banned anyone for using custom skins and plugins unless those modifications were malicious or to break privacy things
That is also my point of view
I almost regret buying it on epic. I just need to login once so I can get a steam key
I guess my big issue is the lack of fractional scaling.
I run a tiling window manager at 8k so my window sizes end up really weird resolutions which causes rdp to barf
Nitro provides enough customization and I feel happy with it
I've been using better-discord for years, and that's the only reason it took so long for me to use vesktop
I like the one plugin skin that puts the servers at the top so there is more horizontal space
playtime simulator
"Relatively imminent." - Jonathan
steam was asking me for a review of the game since I've already played it for 17 minutes
as someone who spends more time ricing my install than I do actually gaming or using it otherwise, I needed to have the full control over how I can customize one of the most used programs I have installed lmao
cant wait for the overwhelmingly negatives to hit peak tomorow
people not understanding what a an ea/beta entails Lmao
I used to do ricing. Now I just need it to work and and get out of my way. Hence Gnome
ROFL
Oath mate
Mate doesn't have Wayland to my knowledge
people working well on earning awards for funny reviews
makes sense, I need to learn git so I can back up my dotfiles lmao
baited
Oh, ya my dotfiles are fully automated. And my tool setup. I can go from 0 to dealing with k8s and building shit in 10 mins
still getting same error
Frankfurt didnt work for me, but Milan did
GREP YOUR ENERGY DRINKS BOYS. CHMOD THEM SO WE CAN KEEP OUR ENERGY SHIELD UP
Let's see if Amsterdam works
LOGIN
For me it didnβt
Oh. In authenticating user on Amsterdam.... And error
When you see a 6 digit number in queue starting with 2, better go to sleep
Let see if something near my old home in the US works
Sigh, freaking epic games. Says I don't have EA
RIP
Fuck that company
Pressing ESC might close the game, which probably will keep you out of queue
Not sure if it also happens on Windows, but be cautious
What I get for trying to save $20
RIP
Open the official website and login. Get your key from a private message from GGG and activate that on epic client
lets be honest we are all going to get booted off and then end up in waiting room hell
I've got teh hopium
The number isn't going down 
Site is down
oof
that's extremely inconvenient
Next time I won't be cheap and just pay the extra
I'm streaming without a mic if you want to experience the queue as GGG intended @pearl gale
was it some sort of Epic-specific promo?
same bro
No, it was just weirdly about $42 vs $60
i check my poe acc earlier and it say i dont EA key
Be ready, Hillock! Time to sudo rm -rf you!!
huuh really weird
yeah remove his french language! π
ITS MOVING
Alright peeps. I;m closing discord. Catch you if there is problems lol
And im specifically running Epic in wine, so it's the official client. Otherwise I'd use Heroic at least.
But all I want is for it to give me EA, so I can get my Steam key and play with steam
Why epic?
Cause I was being cheap and bought it on Epic. So now I have to deal with hijinks to get a steam key
It was $42 for the $60 pack on epic
anyway, muting this channel, have fun guys and dont crash π
I reached 2000 in queue and then error
and I'm back
I got this
I managed to collect a whole 1 gold
Killed 5 zombies and F
I didn't take off work today
Knew shit was going to be broken
Game is a bit laggy
Sound being choppy
I believe I have seen some folks fixing sound being choppy on POE1 by changing from vulkan to DX
i couldnt choose a name
anyone else got the unexpected database errorr?
1440p and GTX 1060. I believe that is to be expected.
do not use -open nvidia drivers lol
Cant even 60fps with these graphics xD
wtf you are in still?
No, got disconnected
It works
GGG is designing the database schemas right now
barely
for like 5 people, on most setups the -open drivers kick and scream and sook about x/wayland
I am on x11
every time i tried the -open drivers, i had to reinstall prev version through recovery terminal
coz it cant find any monitors in xorg
i've not tested open on x11 but since its the GSP firmware thats scuffed... dont think its a wayland problem
Oh lord, I am going to need to learn some tweaks to increase FPS
I have solid 71, good for me
Outside the login screen?
would have been 90-100 on closed
I though poe wasn't running on macos just yet?
Will try it out, but for some reason the open one works better with my intel integrated
the open one does nothing with your intel integrated
run closed with following kernel params: 'nvidia_drm.modeset=1 nvidia.NVreg_EnableGpuFirmware=0 nvidia_drm.fbdev=1 ' and you're golden
We've run into a configuration problem and need to restart the realm. Please bear with us while we address the problem.
Any suggestions on how to configure upscaling/resolution for best performance?
Idk if that kind of thing works better with pairs, multiples or something like it
i normally just set FSR to Quality, and let it do its magic
FSR is for AMD, right?
its for anything. i use it on Nvidia too
DLSS for nvidia - performance
but there is DLSS if you ahve nvidia
XeSS also works on anything, but its for intel primarily
I am not on RTX
You dont have to be. FSR is not specific to a video card
it just is designed for AMD, but works on Nvidia. I had it on earlier on my nvidia gpu
yes, it is why i say use FSR
Oh right.
I was refering to that
ya, DLSS requires RTX and nvidia.
i have that, but since i disabled DXVK-NVAPI it doesn't detect that im on nvidia and doesn't let me turn on the features
Bilinear gives me better FPS than FSR
FSR is handled by CPU. DLSS is handled by dedicated chips on the RTX GPUs
assumed newer card, forgot that you mentioned it earlier
So anyone can use FSR.
thats fine. You can also try FSR Balanced or Performance
ther eis a quality setting for FSR that you can tune
Yes, itβs on performance
Does upscaling works "cheaper" with a determinated resolution?
Lets say 1155x600 -> 2695x1400, which is not rounded
maybe, ive never upscaled like that, so not sure
nor am i familiar with the math behind it. Im a devops engineer. graphics programming is not something i got my head around
guys if you hit enter it makes a more satisfying sound than clicking login
I haven't had good experience with DLSS on unix
Explain this to Batman

oh man, thats the same error from Epic
looks like the Steam/Epic auto-linking/redemption is not working
could be cause the account api is down along with teh website
hmm my linux install is broken
But the client needs to make API calls to activate stuff, and the website is down
yeah, I'm guessing server weirdness. I don't think anyone's in?
probably, or they just need to get their site up
We are at some instability.
Any chance you might install via steam? People are not having issues with it
the client is probably hitting the external endpoints and failing
nope, servers may still down
Or Steam/Epic is and the sync is failing
The poe account might have to be linked with steam
If the game does not appear in the steam list, you can use the key
mine are already linked, but the account api is down, i just checked
Login server is taking a while now
It might be starting
OK back in queue. bye for a while this time hopefully
if you have a steam / gepic account i think you can login @ https://www.pathofexile.com/ [once its back xD] and just set your email, then you can login via the standalone launcher... if there is any problems like the one Mr batman faced π
only if the site recognizes that we have EA on Steam or Epic
last i checked it did not know. nor does it know when launcehd from Epic. so not sure whats up
Everyone is getting that
are you getting it on the ggg launcher version, or just steam
Got that as well ...
"This operation requires the account to be logged in"
Linux - Steam - Frankfurt EU
Depends on where you have downloaded it
How have you downloaded the game?
RIP
was thrown out from frankfurt a second ago when i hit "create"
I got my nickname β€οΈ
I killed the miller at least. Then I realised I accidentally didnt make my character SSF. So I started again lol.
gz! i did not :<
I guess they need to go and get a queue server for the queue server
:p
Just getting a countdown screen will cool down the masses
looks like people using steam client or consoles were not able to connect, so they must have to fix some account thing for authenticating
afaik only people using native GGG client got through
No I got a key yesterday and redeemed it on their website
confirmed
I got in on steam
So if we redeemed the key on their website we have to download the game from there??
huh? I'm via steam. Got in both times
with wine, i add to steam, and launch. it is running.
but just got booted back out with realm under maintenance message
^
Just FYI, the EA acecss missing, and not being logged in on character create are issues for everyone, even windows users. Just gotta wait
Guys I canβt even access their website
It is temporarily unavailable...
also known issue. my theory is the website being down is causing the EA access missing issue for Steam and Epic players
So when it will be available o can download the launcher directly from there??
game server and website server both go up and down at the same time more or less
which is honestly a bit weird, you'd think they would split those up.
Why dont you get it from steam? Any particular reason?
But it does seem there is a huge dependency on the account servers for both. so maybe why
Its just a hold over from the way they originally made it
I don't remember the details, but basically it was somethign about the trade site
https://xcancel.com/pathofexile if you dont want to use X.com directly or deal with a randomized feed.
I just won the key last night π
makes sense
is that a revived Nitter?
IMO downloading it via steam is much easier right now, as we are facing some server issues
the UI looks very Nitter
technically xcancel never died, but yes, its a nitter instance
π
Hope they're not using MySQL server..that would explain a lot
its one of the last ones left
I logged in via steam but probably that wonβt give me access to steam right??
Once the website is back, you can link your account with steam
Surely at least they would use Postgres
I would hope they would at least use Postgres. Id even take MSSQL, but i hope not mysql
Valkey / InfluxDB for everything IMO when possible
Last night when i redeemed their key on their website i logged in via steam so i will be able to download it on steam??
Because steam doesnβt give me the option to download the game
In all reality it's probably some AWS thing
yeah almost certainly
even if it is Aurora or something, that is fine
When the site is back, you can login and check your private messages. You must have one from GGG which you can redeem a steam-key.
Informix all the way
well, i managed to log into my acount. Steam and Epic are linked. I just need the client to get through
Oh
client wont work till login servers are back up
Should be something like that
Ohhh I see then I quess I have to check my messages
realm downm for maintenance error. things are coming up slowly
lol, they blocked the account page too
autehtnicating user in the client. servers are almost up again
I quess I will just start playing poe 1 but the time I finish it they will be open
cant play the game since i got scammed by epic game key :V
HILLOCK'S DEATH COUNTDOWN
guess i need to spam the login button until the client decides to give me my epic EA and tie it to my account
scammed?
is urs like this ?
last time for sure... right?
Surely.
nope, mine says i dont have EA. i bought on epic. try to get it to register on the site
oh if u bought on epic its gonna be fine i guess.
im online
just redeem it on steam, or download the standalone lauuncher
How did you got scammed
Didnβt you redeem the key??
Hillock has a new name
by the note saying the epic key will not give me EA content but just the game client xD
ya, but thats nto scamming, thats just misunderstanding how the system works, and your friend not being able to read
Hahaha
yep that what it is
he said it can play the game
meanwhile i didnt read anything and got the key to play
7hours of waiting end up wasted
SHEEZZZZZZZZZZZ
xD
You know what Diablo IV it is then
dont even have that
Use twitter to get keys
anyway enjoy the game guys
i did
i tried to join giveaway for the past 2 days
been joining streams
And you got it??
Itβs gonna be free to play in 2025
Who took my name
some guy maybe
Bro give us your steam name
You are on epic ok well ok I will redeem my steam game key and then I will send you the epic key
If it works you are in luck
wait waht
that wont work
it will not right
it is the whole hting he was talking about not working
Which movement is better? WASD or mouse?
its the same like this
the key just unlocks the game it doesnt give them EA to their GGG account
YEA
Aaaa
exactly
fine print under the CLAIM KEY button
Hmmm ok I will just buy it for you not right now though but I will soon
nah man enjoy the game!
man D4 had better launch than this
its early access, and they are a victim of their own success. Shit happens
ive been where they are, its not a fun time, both for the crazy chaos it is, and letting down our users
any linux users crashing after char select, loading first combat zone?
no clue, haven't gotten past the EA Access boss
I got kicked trying to load into the first town just now, but I was able to load into it fine before the last set of realm resets.
looks like more resets are coming too
We've run into the same symptom again with a different problem. We are working on fixing it again but regrettably every time this happens we have to restart and wipe the databases to prevent them getting into bad or corrupted states. We'll have a fix out as soon as we can! Thank you once again and more updates will follow as we learn more.
im using tkg for now to get Epic to get me EA access, then switching to GE in Steam
if you're on nvidia and/or wayland it seems that vulkan is leading to a black screen and/or crashes, so you'll want to run on DX12 if you can change it ingame, otherwise under the proton/wineprefix, /home/<youruser>/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/ (for steam) change the renderer_type to DirectX12 from vulkan in poe2_production_Config.ini
Their website is still down??
yes
wooo, im in queue and it finally linked
@pearl gale
Nice!
Have you done something to achieve it?
nooooo i hit escape at the character select
<8k queue though which is good. means their capacity really is beefed up
Spam the my account website (https://www.pathofexile.com/my-account/early-access) until it renders. as soon as it renders, spam login in the client. Eventually my client managed to get a request to the site through, and give me EA
Forwarded to my friend. thanks
any kind person wanna give out 1 EA key to me ?
I think there are better places to ask for $30

