linux-🐧

[cedar turret]

And what I am saying is that medium does not matter, what matters is the infrastructure, peering and routing.

[rustic reef]

you have a straight connection to the server my self i am on a 30 ms connection to the server and if i was on lower internet it be double that been dealing with this along time kid not going to talk to someone who has no clue on the matter who does not know the difference between root access and shell access

[cedar turret]

???

[blissful iron]

No, the medium does matter. You can't run transpacific cables over coax. Last mile is especially important for mission critical infrastructure where the difference between 5-7ms vs 15-20ms is substantial. Sure copper SFP under 5m is perfectly fine for interconnects and LAN, but for consumers it's an outdated medium that should be replaced. Peering and routing can only get you marginal gains.

It sounds like you may need to down clock/powerlimit. If you raise power limits, core/mem are allowed higher thresholds. I have scripts that run different profiles depending on the situation or API used. "device lost" is similar on Windows due to unstable GPU overclocking, or bad memory timings/config. I'd recommend messing around different core/mem clocks and powerlimits in Superposition or other games with benchmarking for artifacts.

https://github.com/arrhythmix/linuxgaming

[wet charm]

I'm trying to play on the steam deck - why does it remap all my keys on my pc too. It's annoying, is there a way to keep that from happening? (moving my skills around)

[nova bronze]

Yea; I'm 100% sure this isn't the case. It's most likely related to the new gpu system updates path did, I'm almost compltely positive that's the case.

This is the first season I've had regular crashes

[blissful iron]

Yea I'm pretty new to PoE. Wasn't sure if DX12 or Vulkan were the new API added, or just engine overhaul , and how it relates to Wine/Proton. I have been seeing a good amount of complaints in global even on windows. I did notice a lot of stuttering and over utilization of resources when maxing out settings for little visual gains. So I dropped a few settings, and framecapped my GPU to 120fps and things do run better.

[nova bronze]

I'm not maxing out either my gpu nor my cpu; the game just crashes mate.

[fierce python]

I started getting crashes too after the new gpu system updates patch, and I almost never got crashes before. The fix for me was to switch from Vulkan to DirectX12 (Beta) in the settings. I haven't noticed any difference in lag and fps after switching. Running on Steam + Proton 7.0.6 + AMD RX580

[covert quarry]

I'm about to receive a new computer, planning to install pop os on it. The computer has an rtx 3060. Anybody have any experience running this game with Nvidia?

Or games in general?

[analog phoenix]

not sure what kind of information you want

[covert quarry]

Oh, I guess I should have just asked questions.

Does it work well enough?
Does the steam version work well enough or is it better to use the standalone version?
I heard that I need to manually install the correct NVIDIA driver but I'm not sure how to determine the correct one.
Is there a specific version of POP/Ubuntu that I need?

Any other pitfalls?

[analog phoenix]

should work fine. using proton in steam takes care of most compatability problems. doesnt work for all games tho

you only need to use the nvidia version of pop os on their official website afaik. maybe someone else can confirm that.

[covert quarry]

Proton is apparently really nice across the board, or so I've heard.

[weak salmon]

It's nice

Can even use it for non-steam apps

I have used Nvidia with Ubuntu in the past and been fine

And I have used standalone poe chucked in Wine for shit fps in the past

While proton just makes it a very smooth experience overall

If you meant Linux and gaming in general, the main things you can't play are some of the games with very aggressive anticheats and so, such as for example new world

I've booted up LoL (with Lutris), all steam games I've thrown at it with Proton + a couple more, and so (though that's only about a dozen in total)

[covert quarry]

So really all I need to do is install the driver right?

[weak salmon]

Probably

[covert quarry]

How do I use Path of Building? Lutris?

[analog phoenix]

thats one way, yea

not that it matters but electrons move around a couple cm per hour in wires.
its called drift velocity.

the electromagnetic wave travels with near the speed of light. thats most likely what you refered to

[covert quarry]

I did do a little searching of this channel since then. It appears someone developed a wrapper for it.

[cedar turret]

Yes

[weak salmon]

You can also use Proton, I've heard someone say it works

[covert quarry]

What do you use?

[weak salmon]

I just don't use pob

Just don't feel like it

[plush mural]

In my experience ubuntu systems are worse for gaming

Best one for 99.9% is fedora without a doubt

[weak salmon]

Ubuntu is doing well for me, but I'm biased as I haven't tried anything else

[jovial gust]

Current version is not launching for me using proton experimental or current GE? I just downloaded from steam and tried running it and it just silently crashes while loading?

[weak salmon]

using older versions of proton solved that for me when it happened

Can confirm that current proton ex works for me though

[jovial gust]

Tried a couple but same result

Maybe I should include a launch flag

[weak salmon]

drivers up to date?

I never needed a launch flag to get poe running in proton

although I think I needed to go all the way back to proton 6 once

[jovial gust]

About to try with 5.13

Im using a steam deck

Pretty up to date

[weak salmon]

I see

at least if it's a steam deck, it's fairly likely someone else might've already solved your issue lol

[jovial gust]

I’ll go to that discord and ask too

[weak salmon]

good luck

[night peak]

Have you verified game files?

Can also try a lower version of GE

[hot sundial]

i cant find a chat for window, so im just gonna ask here:

So I have a window11 pc with geforce, and trying to get awakened poe trade, but it doesnt work (which is concise with the note on the download site)

what can i do to make it work/or maybe theres another extension opinion for trading?

[jovial gust]

Tried both

In the end I gave up and reinstalled steamOS fresh

Some config file must have broken and I couldn’t figure out how to fix it but it works now

[weak salmon]

That's because that's literally every other channel except this one, and the mac chat, as well as the console channels.

[hot sundial]

So I should ask where?

😔

[weak salmon]

Anywhere but here

And that's for your own sake

Because this is the channel where windows users don't look

[covert quarry]

Does awakened poe trade have a linux version or do I run it in proton or...?

[fading topaz]

It can run on Linux

[brisk geode]

Get the ubuntu version and run that (https://snosme.github.io/awakened-poe-trade/download)

[plush mural]

Dont randomly get the ubuntu

awakened poe is scuffed on linux and outdated

[covert quarry]

Do you use it?

[covert quarry]

What is it you do?

[plush mural]

alt tab and search it pn the trade site

[covert quarry]

What if I just download and run it in proton?

[fading topaz]

I don't know if it will handle running as an overlay when through proton/wine

[fading topaz]

dono what you're talking about. The version listed seems to be up-to-date. I run it natvie on Linux just fine

[plush mural]

whats ur distro

[fading topaz]

Arch

[brisk geode]

Yes i use Nobara, and i run it just fine

As you can see, works just fine

[plush mural]

weird when i used arch & fedora it didnt work on dwm & kde

just bugged out like hell

[brisk geode]

It sometime does not pop up on your screen, all you have to do is tab shift+space

[plush mural]

no mine literally made the whole GUI unuseable

[covert quarry]

I don't know much about fullscreen vs windowed fullscreen. Does regular fullscreen not let me utilize multiple monitors properly? (aside from not letting me use awakened poe trade)

[plush mural]

windowed fullscreen / borderless is often the solution when fullscreen feels laggy or does not keep the same mouse position prior to alt tabbinf

[bold canopy]

you can play this on linux??

which app to download from?

[brisk geode]

from steam

[fading topaz]

you can also run the standalone game through wine/proton. Easiest way is with Lutris

[weak salmon]

Easiest is definitely proton

It's like, 3 clicks and it basically just works

[weak salmon]

It doesn't have official windows support, but these days, steam Proton just works for most games that don't have oppressive anticheats.
And there's also other alternatives in general like lutris, just wine, and so.

[fossil haven]

anyone using steam deck ? is it difficult to trade with controller ui ?

[brisk geode]

I have tried with a controller on pc, and trading or anything to do with inventory is a pain in the ass

[fossil haven]

Guess I have to switch to mouse once in a while

[static lance]

You will probably take a while the first time to find all the needed Button presses. Afterwards it's rather painless imo. Just chatting with your trading partner is a pita

Only had problems once, where my trading partner was really anxious for some reason and canceled the trade right after 3-4s every time, because "why would I take so long to check his offer". But even that worked out at the end, when I wrote that I was playing through steamdeck

[plush mural]

steam, enable proton for non linux and select proton 6 or 7 for PoE

[plucky bramble]

bruh im a dumbass, I saw linux and thought i was in an entirely different discord lmao

realized its poe for linux

[covert quarry]

It seems that I got PoE to work.

[winter smelt]

Anyone successfully run a price checker on SteamOS?

[covert quarry]

So I decided to download the Awakened PoE Trade AppImage. I made the file executable, and tried double clicking it. Although I can very briefly see the program icon, it immediately closes again.

Well I'm in no rush to get it to work, so if someone has an idea of what it could be or maybe could point me to someone who does have an idea, feel free to respond whenever.

[fading topaz]

Can you run it from a terminal? That should give you visible logs

[covert quarry]

I will give that a shot next time.

[gloomy ferry]

Do we know if PoE2 will be on Linux? Or are they dropping the support?

[dreamy trench]

hard to tell. but proton is working still soo

[gloomy ferry]

Crossing my fingers then 😉

[fading topaz]

I mean... they aren't actively supporting Linux as-is anyways. The game works because of compatibility layers

The only things they could do to prevent Linux support with PoE2 would be by adding aggressive DRM and/or anti-cheat

DRM wouldn't make sense because it's a presumably free game

Anti-cheat is possible, though seeing as how there are now Linux supported ones through compatibility layers, and they aren't using an existing commercial one, it'd still be possible they support it there

[covert quarry]

Although they don't have an explicit Linux version I do not think they would actively do things that would prevent proton from working.

[covert quarry]

@fading topaz Ok I made an attempt to do it from the command line, I'm a bit inexperienced at the command line but this is what happened:

I have no idea if you know what it means, but maybe you know someone who might know?

[sharp maple]

https://github.com/SnosMe/awakened-poe-trade/issues/452

XRecord is required extension for X11 for app to function. Install/enable it in X11 config.

[covert quarry]

X11?

This is my first time hearing of X11.

[sharp maple]

X11 is basically the bit that displays graphics and windows for you. The way those windows look and behave are defined by the desktop environment (KDE, GNOME, Xfce etc.) There are alternatives to X11, like Wayland, but if you don't tinker, I think you likely have X11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System

In short, don't mind X11 for now. Check if you have XRecord installed already. If not, get it through your package manager. If you have it, you'll need to find out how to enable it

[covert quarry]

I did some poking around and I do seem convinced that it's indeed X11.

Why can I find so little information on this?

[sharp maple]

On which part?

[covert quarry]

On X11, or XRecord.

I have no idea how to check for its existence, enable it, or install it.

I try apt search xrecord and I get just one package that doesn't look like it is.

I tried xdpyinfo and I don't see anything called XRecord in the list of extensions, I do see RECORD but I'm not sure if that's it.

[sharp maple]

XRecord appears to be a extension to X11, so that might explain why it's not available as a package

[covert quarry]

Yeah but it's so hard to find information on it.

[sharp maple]

The RECORD might be it since it's officially called X Record Extension Library https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.6/doc/libXtst/recordlib.html
I see what you mean by hard to find info on it, feels like most info on it is aimed at developers

[covert quarry]

But if RECORD is there then why do I get this error?

[sharp maple]

Check if you have an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/, if not, I think you'll need to make one with https://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there

In the .conf file (different file on my end, but the structure should be similar) there should be something like

    Option         "COMPOSITE" "Enable"
EndSection```
And I'm guessing that there should be something for the `RECORD` - if not, you can probably add it there

Though that is an oold thread... I wonder if there are any major changes since

[covert quarry]

This also seems a bit... Convoluted.

I mean I appreciate the help trying to parse all this info. My searches have come up with such results but I have no idea what to make of them. So this helps.

But at the same time it feels like I'm meddling with forces I do not have adequate understanding of at this point in time.

[sharp maple]

Yeeah. Found where Xorg (X) modules should be installed, on Arch. X's layout should be similar enough /lib/xorg/modules

The “extmod”, “dbe”, “dri”, “dri2”, “glx”, and “record” extension modules are loaded automatically, if they are present, unless disabled with "Disable" entries.
https://man.archlinux.org/man/xorg.conf.5 Ctrl+F record

I understand. Checking settings and if files are present shouldn't hurt but once it gets into root commands territory it's usually worth double checking everything

[covert quarry]

I'm pretty close to giving up for the day though. I do not like wasting too much of my time on "getting things to work". In particular when said things are optional.

Like I know awakened poe trade is a godlike tool, but the game is playable without.

I do appreciate the help though.

[sharp maple]

No problem! If you do figure it out later, do tell what was up with it

[covert quarry]

It really sucks that web searches on this are just kind of awful.

Like even though you seem more savvy to me you as well need to make a handful of assumptions.

I think the next time I tackle this issue I might look into tracking down people who are a bit more in the know. I think linux has a community that can be navigated like that.

[sharp maple]

It's mostly pretty much google and assumptions on how it should work on my end too. Speaking of which, grep LoadModule /var/log/Xorg.0.log should tell you which modules were (are) loaded https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=248786 Their solution sounds simple for loading what they need, but it doesn't say where they put their .conf file

Though there's a chance that the log is somewhere else

[covert quarry]

No such file or directory, yes.

[sharp maple]

Does /var/log exist? If we're lucky it's just a different file name

[covert quarry]

But yeah I might actually track down some people who know what's what and ask them.

[sharp maple]

All right

[fading topaz]

One possibility is that you're running Wayland instead of X11, which I suspect may be the issue. If you know some people who may be able to help though, that'd be your best bet

[covert quarry]

Idk a handful of things seem to suggest it is X11 but I am not 100% certain. I don't know anyone who knows but I intend to search for people who might.

[fading topaz]

run this command. It will tell you if you're running X11 or wayland: loginctl show-session $(awk '/tty/ {print $1}' <(loginctl)) -p Type | awk -F= '{print $2}'

[plush mural]

We are running PoE2 right now on POE TOTA

[wide quail]

Hey y’all, recently have been having a problem where I crash whenever I’m in an instance with another player. I don’t crash at all playing solo, or in a party with separate instances. Using proton 6.8(?) and Vulkan, which has always worked for me in the past but it’s been a while since i last played.

It’s also not every shared instance actually. Been leveling with a friend who’s starting out and it’s like every second or third zone it happens, but then will always happen for the specific zone.

[weak salmon]

Have you tried using a newer proton?

[wide quail]

Experimental won’t launch for me, but any other you recommend trying?

[weak salmon]

Honestly, not in particular.

I'd just try going down the list

[wide quail]

I feel like I tried one or two others and they didn’t work, but I’ll make sure I go through them

[weak salmon]

Well, might not work

Confused how it can happen only in party play but be tied to instances

Never had anything like that happen

[wide quail]

Yeah, the first time it happened I crashed out of the same zone like three times. Then as soon as I went in without my friend (still in party) it was fine

[weak salmon]

Is it just this friend?

Does said friend have some cosmetics?

[wide quail]

Nah brand new player

I might try x11 if that still runs, worth it just to get through story bc we won’t be doing party play in maps anyway

[fading topaz]

do you have a proton log?

[wide quail]

Unfortunately not, will turn it back on next time we try to play together

I was just hoping maybe someone had experienced the same thing before I dive deeper into solving it

[fading topaz]

It'd be weird to be a proton issue, since it only happens when you play in party

are you using the --waitforpreload launch option

[wide quail]

Wait didn’t the game like just patch a couple days ago?

It might be related to that

Bc we made it to act 6 fine, it started in A6 strand

[weak salmon]

Isn't that when deli mirrors start appearing?

[wide quail]

Yeah but haven’t seen one

[weak salmon]

HMMMM

Has your friend?

[wide quail]

I don’t think so

I did try like resetting instances a bunch, so shouldn’t be tied to that I think

For some reason I have no launch options?!

Thank for saying that idk when they got wiped I definitely used to have some

[wide quail]

Were you suggesting this might help or hurt? I def used to use it

[fading topaz]

I recommend it. My thought was that your friend might have cosmetics that cause issues when they get loaded

[wide quail]

Um are there any other options I should be trying lol

At some point they obviously got removed since i last played like a year ago

[fading topaz]

only other one I use is --nologo but I doubt that affects the crashing

[wide quail]

weirdly the game log doesn't say anything about the crash at all? is that normal? this is the log
2023/10/04 12:13:45 70821604 32758d39 [INFO Client 268] [SHADER] Delay: ON
2023/10/04 12:26:59 ***** LOG FILE OPENING *****

[fading topaz]

the game's log or the proton log?

[wide quail]

game log

I have to wait until we try to play together again bc proton logging was off

but the crash happens right after delay:on

nothing unusual at all around it entry-wise

[fading topaz]

anything in your system logs perhaps?

[wide quail]

I’ll look

I did find a newer version of proton that launches so testing that too when I can, probably good anyway

[fading topaz]

also, which back-end are you using in game?

[wide quail]

Vulkan

[covert quarry]

Just to be certain: I don't need to run the .AppInfo file for awakened Poe trade as root or anything?

[fading topaz]

no I don't believe so

Did you find out if you're actually on X11 of if you're on Wayland?

[covert quarry]

I mean everything looks like an X11, given how many Xes there are in the output when I run xpdyinfo. Also the preference of a etc/x11 folder.

[fading topaz]

Right, but there is a compatibility layer called XWayland to allow X things to still run

[covert quarry]

Do you know how I can find out?

[fading topaz]

run this command loginctl show-session $(awk '/tty/ {print $1}' <(loginctl)) -p Type | awk -F= '{print $2}'

[covert quarry]

That's a mouthful.

[fading topaz]

hehehe ya. If you can't copy/paste I'll show you a shorter way using 2 commands

[covert quarry]

I can. I've done it before. I'm just not at home right now.

[fading topaz]

Which Linux Distribution are you running?

[covert quarry]

Pop

[fading topaz]

cool. Do you have an AMD, Nvidia or Intel GPU?

[covert quarry]

Nvidia

[fading topaz]

ah, gotcha. You should be defaulted to X11 then

[covert quarry]

So why would it not be able to find XRecord despite every source telling me that XRecord should be installed and enabled by default?

Does it matter where I boot the app from?

[fading topaz]

hmm. I wonder if it's an appimage problem....

[covert quarry]

Btw I ran this command just now and it says x11.

[fading topaz]

well that's good at least

I guess the XRecord extension, which as far as I know allows screen capture, isn't enabled or something

[covert quarry]

But it should be by default. Plus, obs can record the screen just fine.

[nova bronze]

Are you seeing XID//NVRM crashes with Vulkan..?

I've been trying to identify the source; wasn't VRAM (tested), wasn't memory (tested), wasn't voltages (tested).

I'm seeing skedcheck04 nvidia local_memory_crs_size in dmesg after the crash, what about yourself..?

I thought maybe (longshot) it was related to ZFS; tried on an ext4 drive, same issue.

[iron turtle]

When I open awakened poetrade .appimage, the program icon disapears from the taskbar like you described but then appears in the system tray, and when i hit ctrl-d it works (sometimes overlays the wrong monitor but whatever). Just wanted to ask if you tried using it in game despite not seeing its icon anymore. Good luck

[covert quarry]

It disappears from the system tray as well.

Like the program just force quits, as it says when I open it in terminal.

[iron turtle]

Alas, wish i knew more about how to help.

There is some slim chance moving the location of the appimage helps, mines sitting in my desktop.

Would be good if anyone else in pop could chime in, reading a few issues with appimages and pop.

[rich sedge]

Has anyone found a native or a well working trade helper for poe? (not price checkers, stuff to ease trading)

[nova bronze]

awakened-poe-trade works well if you build it locally (I don't think the appimage is stable)

[rich sedge]

no, not those

the ones that ease trading

like poelurker

[nova bronze]

You can probably run that locally with Mono.

unfortunately the only thing I've used to any effect in linux is awakened-poe-trade, the rest probably need some attntention.

And I wasn't able to get that working effectively with their appimage, had to run it locally /w a package

But that did work.

[rich sedge]

awakened poe trade worked out of the box for me

[nova bronze]

Well, if you want poelurker it'll probably work if you build it with mono.

[covert quarry]

You can do that? I haven't tried that yet.

[nova bronze]

For anyone who's seeing consistent crashes in linux... adding --nologo --noasync --nopreload -gc 3 to the boot parameters has effectively stopped all of that behavior for th lsat 3 days

Also I've been using lutris-ge-lol-p8-12-x86-64; dxvk 1.10.3, vk3d 2.10, d3d extras v2, nvapi 0.64, with both esync and fsync enabled.

[fading topaz]

odd. According to the wiki, the only valid values for the garbage collector (gc) are 1 and 2

[brisk geode]

Is lutris-ge-lol-p8-12-x86-64 not only supposed to be used for league of legends?

[azure cradle]

the app image is fine one fedora

[nova bronze]

I tested like 15 wine revisions and that one happened to be stable

[brisk geode]

That is weird, because it is old and designed for league of legends, are you sure your system/gpu driver and wine etc. are up to date?

[rich sedge]

Hey, does anyone have the wrong time displayed at the in game clock? Mine is 4 hours in advance my timezone. Someone suggested before for me to change the timezone in the website, but that did not work. This seems to only affect PoE, other games with in game timestamps/clocks do not get affected by this

[fading topaz]

What are you using to run the game? I'm thinking maybe the wine environment has a different timezone assigned or something

[rich sedge]

steam proton

[fading topaz]

are you using a VPN, or connecting to a server that isn't in your region?

[rich sedge]

no sir

the server is actually in the state where I live

[safe zealot]

i had this issue - updated time in bios fixed it

[rich sedge]

in bios huh... I'll take a look, thx

[nova bronze]

I have a i9-7940x and 1080ti… I don’t think it’s related to outdated hardware; unless it’s drivers for the 1080. Only game that gives me trouble.

Tossing in a 4090 tonight and will report back

[brisk geode]

I did mean drivers not the hardware. I have on older system that runs poe with lates proton-GE out of the box on nobara

[rich sedge]

unfortunately this did not work for me

[mild forum]

Anyone know how to change the font in game? All I’ve seen is updating registries

[fading topaz]

I don't believe the game natively supports changing the font

[mild forum]

Right, I've seen some people changing the registry on windows to change the font, wasn't sure if anyone knew of an equivalent for Linux

[fading topaz]

Well seeing as the game is running through wine, which itself should have a "virtual registry", you might be able to find a way to modify the wine environment to do that

[mild forum]

Cool, thanks I'll check it out

[plush mural]

Can confirm PoE seems unoptimized.

It ran smooth like butter then they did something and it shits itself

[sand ore]

Hello. I recently came back to the game after having played only one league (Harvest? the one with the gardens). Is there any resource with a tools list for linux? I remember Xenontrade but it doesnt seem to work anymore and i dont see it updated for about 3 years now

[rugged thicket]

https://snosme.github.io/awakened-poe-trade/download has an Ubuntu appimage

[sand ore]

Thank you!

[plain flame]

Cant do this in steam

[azure cradle]

yes you can, it runs fine as long as your in window mode

[sand ore]

It works a bit weird on i3wm but it works

[shadow pawn]

okay, are there any known ways to deal with some of the insane performance issues after the latest patch?

Because I swear, it seem to be clearing the shader cache every time I quit the game

I ran an uber cortex and half the attacks weren't rendering, until I had been in the fight for a few minutes

and then, when my game crashed, when I re-entered the fight, it was back to not rendering anything

[weak salmon]

Well, if you crashed, some stuff won't be saved

I'd say the fix might just be restarting the game yourself before you crash

Not 100% sure that it'll help of course

[wide cipher]

Anyone on nvidia noticed any increased instability in poe? Seems lately to be crashing multiple times a day when as a few weeks ago it 'never' crashed

[compact orbit]

I've tried every version of Proton and various boot options and it refuses to launch. I've tried downgrading my driver, tried and failed to use Lutris, and I'm feeling rather frustrated with it. Any ideas?

On Nividia

[fading topaz]

got a proton log?

[compact orbit]

How would I do that?

[fading topaz]

launch the game with PROTON_LOG=1

or... try to anyways

[compact orbit]

Where will the file be created?

[fading topaz]

normally it drops into your home directory

[compact orbit]

I don't see it

[fading topaz]

it'd be called steam-< bunch of numbers >.log

[compact orbit]

Don't see it

[fading topaz]

I'm assuming in this case you are launching it through steam

[compact orbit]

I am

[brisk geode]

have you tried an older proton version ? On amd after gpu driver updates i sometimes have to launch the game with proton 7.0 for the first time

[compact orbit]

I've used every verion of Proton, nothing

[fading topaz]

if there's no proton log, it is unlikely to be a proton problem

what do the steam logs say?

[compact orbit]

How would I check that?

Looked it up, no file

[fading topaz]

could be in .steam/steam/logs/console_log.txt, or possibly some in /tmp/dumps

what distro are you on, and which gpu + drivers are you using?

[compact orbit]

Most recent version of PopOS, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER, Nividia 535

Anything else needed?

[fading topaz]

have you checked those locations?

[compact orbit]

I have, couln'd find anything relevant. The Steam log only showed yesterday amd before

[fading topaz]

so, to be sure, you have your launch options set to PROTON_LOG=1 %command%

[compact orbit]

Yes

No file

[fading topaz]

what about .steam/steam/steamapps/common/Path of Exile/logs/

[fading topaz]

says Unable to init Steam API

are you like offline in steam or something?

[compact orbit]

No?

I just feel like giving up

[brisk geode]

Has Pop_os had an update or something recently, looking at protondb there are several on that system with issues

[compact orbit]

I believe so? If I wanted to downgrade my version of PopOS how would I do so?

[brisk geode]

I don't believe you can just downgrade, you would have to do a clean install

Have you tried to re-install steam?

[compact orbit]

I guess I could try that. Would that delete any of my important files like saves and game installs?

[weak salmon]

I strongly recommend getting everything you care about backed up before you even consider reinstalling

[brisk geode]

back up your saves just in case, it will not delete game installs

[compact orbit]

Just remembered that I already tried that

[brisk geode]

might be Pop_os, maybe go to their masstermost and speak with them https://chat.pop-os.org/login

[compact orbit]

My other games are working

[brisk geode]

Tried to repair poe?

[compact orbit]

I'll try that next

[compact orbit]

Verifying files

[compact orbit]

Somehow it's all working

[brisk geode]

Perfect

[nova bronze]

I had significant issues with my 1080ti; haven't had any problems with a 4090.

@compact orbit Exact same situation for me; every 8.x, 8.x GE, 8.x Proton, whatever versions + options didn't seem to have any positive impact for me.

The most stable + performant I was able to get things on the 1080ti was by using:

• --nologo --noasync --nopreload -gc 2
• wine-ge-8.20
• DXVK_USE_PIPECOMPILER=1
• DXVK_USE_PLACEHOLDER_SHADERS=1

Nothing else even came close -- but I still had crashes relatively often.

[wide cipher]

Meanwhile I was turning of things I saw in journalctl (gamemode and steam overlay) and now left with this error

Oct 27 21:30:17 white-ren kernel: nvidia-modeset: ERROR: GPU:0: Idling display engine timed out: 0x0000927c:3:0:1116

On 1070ti

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/error-gpu-idling-display-engine-timed-out-since-524-x-and-linux-6-1-5/242543/11

Weird that a bug since January started appearing only this month for me 😒

[boreal quail]

I see only linux and mac-os help text channels, no windows, but I have a technical issue in windows, I can't change renderer api?
I had a 1660ti before, and I could, I did a clean DDU (for nVidia drivers) and installed AMD Drivers because I changed my GPU to 6800xt, now renderer api stays on DX11 and cannot be changed, why is that? 😦

[brisk geode]

go to your production_config.ini and change renderer_type=dx11 to renderer_type=Vulkan

[latent zinc]

if that doesnt work, i'd probably reinstall those drivers again

[weak salmon]

Because Windows is the officially supported platform and is the base assumption for what you use to play the game. You can ask about it in any of the questions channels. Except the ones for Mac and Linux.

[wide cipher]

hmm, tweaked some settings in nvidia settings app like force full composition pipeline and changed power settings to prefer maximum and it seems to run stabely 🤔

[plush mural]

guys some issues even happen in windows like towns causing some cpu eruptions

[plush mural]

might not be relevant but when i had 8gb instead of 32gb poe used to crash because i didnt even enable any swap

so ram is needed

[vivid badge]

weird stuff is happening since they did that engine thing in the end of last league

[nova bronze]

I have 64gb so I don’t think it’s related

[plush mural]

can confirm this for both windows 10, windows 11, arch, fedora and iirc ubuntu

[brisk geode]

what is happening? I am on fedora and i am not seeing any problems

[plush mural]

i had game issues with poe on multiple systems but all other games run butter smooth

it was mostly CPU creaking out and going ape shit

[brisk geode]

High usage or temps?

[plush mural]

temp spikes

[worn pond]

Has performance tanked for anyone else?

[nova bronze]

@worn pond Are you using Nvidia..? If so I found it was only problematic with 10/20/30x series and also I found it to be extremely poor when you had pipeline composition enabled; disabling both + setting DXVK_USE_PIPECOMPILER=1 was a significant improvement

[worn pond]

Nah I'm on AMD

[nova bronze]

I'd still suggest the DXVK env var

give that a shot

[worn pond]

oki, ty

[frank wave]

I think I am having better perf with Dx12 but if I change in-game performance is bad so I have to restart the game. The variable seems to do something but I really can't tell since perf is so inconsistent. I have noticed a big perf hit since some patches back from 130 fps on H/O to 90 fps. I am on GPU: RX 590 OS: Manjaro KDE

[brisk geode]

Just checking out the performance and i have no issues with vulkan on nobara (amd gpu)

[frank wave]

@brisk geode can you show me the output of "uname -a" ?

[plush mural]

i just limit my poe to 60fps

[brisk geode]

yeah i usually do that aswell, just wanted to see what it was like uncapped

[sharp gull]

anyone know why this might happen?

vk::PhysicalDevice::createDeviceUnique:ErrorFeatureNotPresent

from what ive seen its a problem with vulkan but idk how to run it with directx12

no nvm

still didnt work with the -dx12 falg

flag

[brisk geode]

have you tried to change it in the production_Config.ini file?

[sharp gull]

where would that be located?

i cant seem to find it in my path of exile dir

or am i missing somethinf

[brisk geode]

my documents / my games folder

might be easier to just search your system for it

[fading topaz]

which GPU + drivers are you using?

[sharp gull]

oh, thanks, found it

and removed vulkan as the default

all working

[obtuse tulip]

is there any way to run path of building community natively on fedora (without flatpak)?

it's the only flatpak on my system and all the platforms and libs take up a crap ton of space

[fading topaz]

I think there's an appimage?

[obtuse tulip]

Where

[fading topaz]

If there is one it'd be on the github

if not then I'm getting it mixed up with maybe Awakened Poe Trade

[brisk geode]

I mean you could technically download the windows portable one and run that through wine

[obtuse tulip]

im kinda low on space tho,wine is 5gb and i have 15gb free on my linux partition

[weak salmon]

how are you launching poe?

you can use steam proton for non-games too if that's what you're using

[obtuse tulip]

im not yet

when i figure out some apps i might fully switch to linux, im dualbooting

[plush mural]

dont they explaint his

[obtuse tulip]

what?

[plush mural]

get the tar and untar it

can u post the contents in it

[obtuse tulip]

i dont have a tar

[plush mural]

https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/archive/refs/tags/v2.34.1.tar.gz

[obtuse tulip]

and i don't want to have non-packagemanager installs

[plush mural]

a i c

[obtuse tulip]

how do i get updates on that

[plush mural]

r u ion arch?

[obtuse tulip]

fedora

tars don't

if manually installed

[plush mural]

soz it updates like on windows

u manually have u perss update when in it

[obtuse tulip]

still i want to be able to manipulate it through dnf, i want it to be updated along with other packages

[plush mural]

im unsure if u even can do that

[obtuse tulip]

why don't they just add pob into rpm fusion or ffs create their own repo

[plush mural]

i mean why dont you just do it like everyone else

u maybe can do it but im unsure if PoB only checks for new updates once it opens

[obtuse tulip]

how is it? im currently using it through flatpak

[plush mural]

i've used it on arch, fedora, nobara and iirc ubuntu all were smooth and withotu issues

[obtuse tulip]

maybe we should just kindly request the devs to make a native version and put it into a repo

[brisk geode]

or maybe you should just add more space to your linux partition, as it already works fine through either wine or flatpak

[obtuse tulip]

I can't my partition table is unfortunate

[placid lantern]

Ever native poe on linux? 🤡

[brisk geode]

nahh will never happen

[plush mural]

no need for it to happen when steam literally does everything

just proton and move on

[sharp gull]

TIL theres a linux build for PoB

i was running that under proton ;-;

oh dear

[stray geode]

yeah, I agree here, Steam made enormous work to manage and involve additional development for platform independence. On the other hand, they have Mac client, so potentially, there shouldn't be too much changes, unless they use specific Mac libraries in their development

[stray geode]

I am lazy guy, I have pob vortex, it works I am fine:)

[sonic lodge]

i use lutris and installed pob in it

[stiff pumice]

I use this https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/path-of-building-community-git

:D

[half tapir]

Is it legal to play POE on unix machines?

[weak salmon]

Yes?

[half tapir]

Can you please share a link to the post from the developers where it says so? I just don't see any mention of unix systems in the supported systems.

[weak salmon]

It isn't supported

[half tapir]

You're probably all just using bots on them - 99% of you.

[weak salmon]

And no, I don't have any link that says so

[half tapir]

I hope you all get banned in the new league and we can finally breathe free.

[weak salmon]

Ok

[stiff pumice]

I'm a C#/Beef/++ coder/reverser(a little).
🧢

[half tapir]

and what's wrong with that for you?

I live in a free country and do what I like.

no f unix here at all

I'm sure that on macOS there are only botmasters playing on viral machines - if we refer MAcOS to unix.

[fading topaz]

Wait until they learn about the Steam Deck XD

[stiff pumice]

Are you very young? Or just french

[visual fulcrum]

Hi, a lot of unicode characters and the whole korean alphabet doesn't render for me, so for example my stash tabs look blank when they are annotated by symbols. Did anyone else encounter this and know how to fix it? I'm playing on steam using latest Proton-GE

[fading topaz]

I'm wondering if you need to install extra fonts in the wine environment

[edgy sierra]

Wine should inherit system fonts. Korean characters have rendered fine for me in chat when using trade. For arch I use noto-fonts-cjk, but other distros might package it under a different name

[vivid badge]

low quality bait

[visual fulcrum]

I'm on Nobara (Fedora fork with most of the Fedora's repos), any idea what fonts PoE uses and in which package they are contained?

[edgy sierra]

From what I'm seeing Fedora split it into four packages. google-noto-sans-cjk-fonts, google-noto-serif-cjk-fonts, google-noto-sans-cjk-vf-fonts, google-noto-serif-cjk-vf-fonts . I don't know if any of them would work or there is a specific one so I would just install them all. Fonts are small enough for it to not be a big deal.

Anyone doubting the "legality" of playing on Linux can refer themselves to the 3.21.2B patch notes. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3407022
Fixed a bug that caused Steam Deck users to encounter an error when attempting to launch the client.

[visual fulcrum]

The games down rn so I can't test it, but I'll get them , thanks!

Hmm, could it be that I lack something like google-noto-serif-cjk-kr-fonts package?

[edgy sierra]

Korean should be included in those packages. In this case cjk is an abbreviation for "Chinese Japanese Korean".

[visual fulcrum]

Ahhh, okay, thanks! What about unicode characters, what package could they be in?

[edgy sierra]

I'm not actually sure, that's a harder question to answer because Fedora has elected to do so much font package splitting. I did see this reddit post that includes the nuclear option https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/kvq94g/what_font_to_install_for_full_unicode/ . But it's 2 years old and I don't know if Fedora has done any package renaming since.

[visual fulcrum]

I see, I know where to start now at least, thank you!

[wicked arch]

is there any established tutorial on running poe on linux?

my steam just does nothing and the play button reverses back to green, is the standalone version better? I am running mint

[vivid badge]

usually just this does the trick since it runs on proton experimental just fine

[idle adder]

try baiting harder man

[wicked arch]

this is what I had to do to even make the play button light up in green

are there maybe any logs I can read

[vivid badge]

if you want to check in real time, open steam through the terminal

start the game and look at what is happening

[graceful shore]

Updated PoE to release version, started the game. Crashed in the main menu as I was reading the league content popup. Now, when I start PoE it goes from "launching" back to "play" after 1-2 seconds.
Running PoE on latest Steam version with Proton Experimental on openSUSE Tumbleweed (also latest). Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this? Already verified game files

[edgy sierra]

Can try manually deleting the cache in /PathToWhereeverYourSteamLibrayIs/steamapps/compatdata/238960/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/Path of Exile/. Otherwise would need to run PoE with PROTON_LOG=1 %command% as launch options or run steam from the command line to generate a log of what the actual error is.

[weak salmon]

Tried using an older proton version?

Though that's not exactly troubleshooting, it always fixed it for me

[graceful shore]

Yeah, went through a few. Didn't work. Didn't really fix it either.
Uninstalling and then reinstalling PoE (full download) made it work again. Feasability depends on your internet speed I guess

[weak salmon]

Ah

[covert quarry]

Man, I crashed twice. This didn't happen while I was playing before.

Has anybody else been having crash issues?

[edgy sierra]

Yeah, from the amount of people it doesn't seem to be linux specific though.

[covert quarry]

Really?

[dusk timber]

are u guys crashing on the new update?

im running proton experimental, crashed 2 times in a row act 1 lions

[edgy sierra]

Dec 08, 2023 3:16 PM (EST) - A fix is coming for the crashing issues. Thank you for your patience.

[sour widget]

Game still crashes on login for me, both on Window, Mac and Linux

Act 1

with new update

🙂

[dusky field]

hmm on the current update the game lags so terribly it lags out my system crashes my windows manager

[brisk geode]

The game has been running flawless here, exept for the crashes they fixed last night

[dusky field]

what proton version were you using?

[brisk geode]

Been using latest GE-proton 25

[dusky field]

GE_Proton8_25-1?

[dusky field]

I didn't have ge-proton installed, did that now, probably have to restart steam to see it, but i'm another game rn

[brisk geode]

you can also just use proton experimental

[dusky field]

I did

geproton actually seems to have made it worse

as soon as I change maps it instantly freezes my System so hard I cant even alt tab

So hard I can't even switch to console

[brisk geode]

tried to repair poe?

[dusky field]

doing a verify. Didn't think i needed to since I did a fresh install (only installed linux last week)

[weak salmon]

Installing can always fail

[dusky field]

hmm all files verified

no... that didn't help. If at all, it made it worse, now I can't even log into lionswatch

[dusky field]

btw, what tool did you use there for compat tool installation? doesn't seem to be native to steam

Switching between Vulkan and Directx made no difference, neither did Fullscreen vs Fullscreen Windowed

[brisk geode]

Proton-up

Could it be driver or temp issues? never seen poe lock up a system

[dusky field]

no Idea. I'm using native nvidia drivers

I tried to switch around to nouveau this week, it bricked my system

had to reinstall, only have native nividia right now

[brisk geode]

That is weird, ever since i installed nobara everything has worked out of the box.

[dusky field]

I'm using EndeavourOS.
Also, Everyone I ask recommends a different OS that should work "Out of the box", Endeavour was one of them

mint too, and zorin os, manjaro, all with the same reasons you give for nobara 🙂

not sure i have the motivation to try every distro out there to find the one that doesn't break 😦

anyway, I've uninstalled POE and am redownloading it again to see if that fixes it

in the meantime I'm going out

that being said, id rather find a way go fix the problem on the current system than switch around when I get to a problem, my issue is that with me not having used Linux in 15 years I have absolutely no idea where to start troubleshooting properly

[brisk geode]

yeah no reason to distro hop, most of them are mostly the same anyway

[rotund ridge]

I run EndeavourOS as well and have had 0 issues. Do you have an amd or nvidia card?

[dusky field]

nvidia

[rotund ridge]

ahh yeah I had issues on nvidia too. Random crashes and such. From what I remember having the latest drivers wasnt always the best, you could try some older versions if they are available to see if it helps

also use the packaged drivers not the ones from nvidia website

[dusky field]

I used nvidia-inst

[dusky field]

hmm yeah, i will have to figure out how to do that

[dusky field]

any hint on how to get older drivers? I used nvidia-inst to install them, and I can't add version or legacy information, and I can't even seem to uninstall nivida drivers without uninstalling steam or portproton

[rotund ridge]

sorry no I don't use nvidia any more so cant try it

[paper hamlet]

FWIW, I had issues with the 545 Nvidia drivers on Tumbleweed and rolling back to 535 seems to have fixed all the problem I had. From what I've read the 545 drivers are a bit iffy.

[rigid aspen]

Anyone know why filterblade wont sync with my steamdeck?

[fading topaz]

Are you downloading a file, or syincing it to your PoE account? If it's the latter, it should sync with the game directly

It is however tied to your PoE account, which through steam is linked to your steam account. If you've played PoE before or have a non-steam account, this may be separate

[languid fulcrum]

hey linux exiles, does anyone know of a tool that can map scrollwheel-down to leftclick? I've tried out a few but neither one seems to be able to - being on hyprland/wayland might complicate things too...

[shadow pawn]

Depends on the distro, but Pop!_OS has built-in functionality for switching to older drivers

Open the "Software and Updates" program, then go to this tab in the window

I've found that 525 has been the most stable for dealing with a lot of modern games

[dusky field]

well... maybe I'll get better performance on another distribution... second time in a week that a system update on endeavouros killed my bootloader

[brisk geode]

That sounds annoying

[dusky field]

very much so. In addition, whenver I ran something that used the graphics card, it pretty much destroyed the reaminder of the systems performance, like audio began stuttering, you couldn't alt tab, and so on

[fading topaz]

how much free VRAM do you normally have, without the game going?

[dusky field]

Don't know, I never really checked

[fading topaz]

you can use utilities like nvitop to check that. The nvidia driver should also provide a command to let you inspect it, though I can't remember which one it was off the top of my head

[dusky field]

I just had to reinstall the distro, I have no tools to check installed at the moment. if I had, I had checked those first

and currently I'm downloading another distro to switch off endeavour

[dusky field]

I installed arch linux yesterday, got steam running, enabled compatibility, and I get this error, any idea why?

[fading topaz]

Which GPU do you have?

[dusky field]

I think the issue was I had to add nvidia_drm to the kernel, it seems to work now

[fading topaz]

Are you using one of the default kernel builds? The nvidia package should be sufficient for you. If you're using one from the AUR, then yes you'd need that one

[dusky field]

I'm using a default arch kernel, and I installed the normal nvidia driver, it just dind't have nvidia-drm in there automatically

[fading topaz]

odd. Normally all the kernel modules should be loaded after install, which triggers mkinitcpio. Or do you mean adding it to your boot loader then?

either way, glad it works now

[dusky field]

I had to add the line "nvidia nvidia_modeset nividia_uvm nividia_drm" to mkinitcpio.conf, add modeset=1 to grub, and execute mkinitcpio and grub-mkconfig to make it work

[tight canyon]

always remember

protondb be kinda helpful

[livid prawn]

is there any working trade app?
cuz when i last time played AWP was laggy

[fading topaz]

awakened poe trade has worked fine for me....

[livid prawn]

custom distro not ubuntu or something 😦

[fading topaz]

It has an appimage download, which should be "universal"

[steel sun]

POE support linux ? i thought its win and mac only

[fading topaz]

It works perfectly through the proton compatibility layer

[livid prawn]

Not natively, it has been working since forever on Wine/PlayOnLinux.

[weak salmon]

Yeah I played it back in 2017 with just Wine, but the performance at maps ended up too bad to keep playing

Proton works wonders nowadays

[livid prawn]

It works because of Vulkan.
Proton is the same as Wine.

[weak salmon]

Proton is built on wine

Saying that they're the same is like saying Linux is the same as Unix

And it's why I clarified "just wine", as opposed to the current "proton, which uses wine, but also had extra stuff specifically tailored to make games work"

[livid prawn]

"extra stuff" is just winetricks

[weak salmon]

Literally no but sure

[stone salmon]

you can run poe on linux???

how?

[weak salmon]

Just turn on steam proton

[weak salmon]

Though even before steam Proton

[fading topaz]

Can also use Lutris if you're not doing Steam

[plush mural]

Make sure ur drivers and wine dependencies are updated
sudo apt install steam
OR IF ARCH BASED DISTRO
sudo pacman -S steam

then just play by steam proton super smooth experience from there

[feral grotto]

Anyone here on wayland? The cursor locking to game window doesn't work for me when the game is in windowed mode. Anyone else made that work somehow? I am on KDE Plasma atm but also tried Hyprland with no luck

Oh and I only have 1 screen, so this is not a multi screen issue for me

[feral grotto]

Oh an one more thing, I am experiencing some micro lag spikes from now and then. Is that on my end or is that linux specific stuff?

[craggy pendant]

I'm on kde neon and not getting micro spikes, apart from when the server connection starts deteriorating

[feral grotto]

And sometimes performance is really bad, for example when I port into glacier map

FPS drop significantly for a couple of seconds, then it starts getting better

It feels like shader loading or something but I'm not sure

[craggy pendant]

Do you let your steam prep shader pre-caching before playing the game? It helps with those things

[feral grotto]

I think I do, let me check, it should be enabled by default I think?

Or is that a command line setting?

I don't see anything regarding shaders in the PoE properties on steam

[sonic schooner]

I think shader pre-load is steam-wide

[zenith tapir]

Hi guys, and Happy New Year! I just installed PoE (on Steam) on Garuda Linux. Game runs perfectly, with 1 annoying issue - my keyboard inputs are all messed up - for example, when i try to bind, say the inventory, to "I", pressing I gives me W. My wild guess is, maybe my input settings are wrong. What I have is 2 inputs - Bulgarian, and English(US). So, any help would greatly be appreciated 🙂

[zenith tapir]

nvm, fixed it - turns out, I had 2 US input layouts, which logically made conflict for the game, sorry for the bother 🙂

[hardy dove]

Hi exiles, anyone here playing on steam deck?

The first time I played on my brand new Deck it was terrible

I feel for the console players

But I tried again after learning how to use the Deck with some other games

I don’t like the community control schemes.

Some of them seem to be good for a specific build or specific playstyle

I spent a lot of time@on my own controls and now it’s enjoyable.

I can finally play poe in bed!!

I’ll tinker a bit more with my controls and share them then. I did encounter some bugs like not being able to set a radial menu on right stick and a different radial menu when holding a button (change to different layer). It seems to always reset back to the main radial menu and not recognise they are two distinct menus.

I can use some help with optimal settings. Did anyone look into that? I capped fps at 30. It’s good most of the time but I do regularly have big dips.

I turned off the dynamic resolution. It makes the game look like shit.

[edgy sierra]

Dynamic resolution is unfortunately the only way to keep a playable framerate even on most desktops

[hardy dove]

I have it turned on on my old laptop (which doesn't run the game playably anymore), nvidia geforce now and Shadow streaming services. It helped there but on steam deck it turns to the worst resolution. It's like watching a youtube video in 240p

[gloomy matrix]

My first experience with poe on the deck was playing RF and it was excellent right out of the box. However this league I realized that you can't really play something like scourge arrow of menace in very juiced maps on the deck. But hey, a desktop 3080 can barely keep up there. I think it's fun to have a separate character/build and an extra layer of constraints to consider when playing on the deck. After all, the deck itself is still sort of a techie toy and requires some fiddling with things too.

[hardy dove]

Yes 100%!

A walk and kill things around you build would work well. I’ve never played those

Cyclone discharge came the closest to that

[hardy dove]

Did you play with default controls? Even in RF you’d still encounter the same issues with items

[feral grotto]

Anyone here using awakened poe trade thingy on wayland?

I'm not sure why it is not working for me, the hotkey just doesn't work

[fading topaz]

I don't think it can work on wayland

iirc it uses some X11 specific things to do the overlay

[feral grotto]

it works now

I was just clueless how the whole thing worked

I had to change the keybind though, ctrl+alt+d did not work

might conflict with some plasma keybind maybe

[analog phoenix]

i remember xev being able to tell what program catches a key combination. maybe look into that

[fading topaz]

unfortunately xev is an X11 utility

pretty much all the tools that start with x are

[languid holly]

is this safe to play with proton rn? cuz i had some problems with launching the game, checked the protondb and someone was saying that he got banned for using proton :-/

[craggy pendant]

I have been playing it with proton for over a year (and I play a lot) with no issues, as well as some of my friends. Maybe the person got banned for a proton-unrelated reason?

[languid holly]

yeah thats my guess

may i ask what distro and proton version u use?

im on fedora with proton experimental and its not even starting :(

[craggy pendant]

I am on KDE Neon and I use the GE-Proton8-27

[languid holly]

oh i saw that ge thingy what is it?

[craggy pendant]

It's a custom version with some extra fixes

[languid holly]

oof

[craggy pendant]

https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom

[languid holly]

okay will see

is it much harder than setting it in steam?

im kinda new to linux

[craggy pendant]

You don't need to do stuff with it, just put it into a folder and that's it

[languid holly]

oh okay nice

[craggy pendant]

There are even automation tools for that

When I get on my machine I can get the name as I don't remember rn

What I do is a have a startup script that checks if there's a new version of ge proton and downloads it if true

I use it for other games too, not just PoE

[languid holly]

seems smart

how is ur performance if u can compare to windows

[craggy pendant]

Ah and then after putting you need to select it in steam setting for poe

I don't run windows at all but last time I did performance was worse there

[languid holly]

worse on win?

[craggy pendant]

Yes

[languid holly]

oh, nice

[craggy pendant]

The tool's website with download links: https://davidotek.github.io/protonup-qt/

[languid holly]

thank u

do u need to use lutris for poe?

[craggy pendant]

no, you do not need to use lutris for poe

I play poe just through steam

[smoky ledge]

steam version works perfectly well

[wide yacht]

sup fellow linux poe gamers

[weak salmon]

the ceiling

[mental snow]

So this is more the steamdeck specifically but I've seen to hit a point in the game where the poor deck doesn't want to play along anymore.

Triggered a full chain of mine chests for escavation and it simply noped out, do any of you guys any any suggestions to settings I can use to get around with.

Still running default proton I don't think ge will get any extra juice out of it

I have everything set to lowest, culling enabled and fsr enabled.

[hardy dove]

Id also like to know optimal settings for the Deck

I haven't encountered any such problems yet but I just finished act 3.

I capped fps at 30. I do have some frame drops sometimes but it's perfectly playable. I didn't even change settings to lowest. I'm running on 9 tdp. Not sure if that's the most optimal.

[wide yacht]

does anyone else get random freezes and crashes playing poe and using ubuntu 22.04? I got 2 monitors and usually happens when I switch screens to go over to google chrome or some other app on my other monitor. for context im using proton experimental

[fading topaz]

I'd recommend running the game in windowed fullscreen if you aren't

[mental snow]

Yeah ran pretty well in the early chapters bur at act 9 with chain reaction skills that cleave pretty much everything you can see at once and then a bunch particle effects happening all at once basically rips your deck to shreds ^_^

Even my desktop goes from 240fps -> nothing

[mental snow]

On desktop I'm playing on windowed mode not borderless
Reason being is I got a super ultra wide monitor but the game is bugged so you cannot pick anything up with controller if you play in uw mode (seems to be an old bug that isn't being addressed, also this is happening on both Windows and Linux)

Anyhow I basically put it in window mode drag it to the middle of my screen in a 16x9 tile, then I get rid of the top bar and then have discord and YouTube to the sides

Different game but should give an idea

If I set it to borderless in 16x9 mode I would wasting a lot of screen real estate it's the main reason I'm not using windows as replicating what i do is a pain in the arse and not fully possible on win11 ^_^

[plush mural]

try borderless

[wide yacht]

Yeah I play on windowed full screen. For the most part game runs smooth. Just sometimes when I switch monitors or while using google chrome whole pc will slow down and sometimes crash. Not sure if it's a steam proton thing or not because when I play games with lutris, that never happens.

[wide yacht]

did a little bit of research and seems like google chrome is the problem. looks like the hardware acceleration isn't optimized for linux systems apparently.

[pale saffron]

I had similar crashing issues, it was especially bad in act 1 Lionseye. If I had a vendor menu open then tabbed out it was almost a guaranteed crash. Often they were full system level crashes where sound would keep playing and mouse could move, but no input would be taken from mouse or keyboard.

Some things I did that seem to have made a huge difference, as I have only had 2 random crashes since 🤞

1. As you found, disable hardware acceleration on chrome and/or chromium whichever you use
2. Also make sure you check firefox if you use that as well. Settings > General Performance > Uncheck Use Recommended and Use hardware acceleration
3. Discord also has hardware acceleration in Settings > Advanced
4. I have PoE set to Windowed 1920x1080, using Vulkan, and most settings to low since I have an older GPU and much better CPU so hoping to shift the load there as much as I could.
5. Upgrading to 23.04 or 23.10. Not sure if this is possible for you but this definitely felt like it made a huge difference for me

FWIW these are what I did but if you rely on hardware acceleration for anything in your browsers you'll have to work around that.

The specific error I was seeing in journalctl for my crashes when the system didn't fully lock:

NVRM: Xid (PCI:0000:01:00): 13, pid='<unknown>', name=<unknown>, Graphics Exception: SKEDCHECK04_LOCAL_MEMORY_CRS_SIZE failed

Which lead me to blame my old low memory GPU (GTX 970), and/or some driver issue since I also saw more crashing and general worse performance on nvidia driver 535.x.x vs 525.x.x.

Worth noting that I am also playing on a multi monitor setup and it was impossible to add a third without issue until I made the changes above, while two worked sometimes.

Best of luck, hope this helps you get back to playing reliably.

[hardy dove]

I use a different browser just for POE. So that might work. So you can still use the hardware acceleration on chrome and disable it in Brave or any lightweight browser of your choice.

[frail basalt]

What's the recommended way to install steam on Debian 12? I've just installed Debian, it's a fresh install

Do I need to install xanmod or any other custom kernel?

[fading topaz]

Probably not

Easiest is to either run the game through steam or lutris

[visual fulcrum]

I'd say install through steam, get protonup-qt, get newest proton-ge through it and launch through steam with proton ge

And steam probably from the repositories if it's there, flathub if it's not

Though afaik Debian is quite bad for gaming due to very old packages of stuff like GPU drivers, so if you encounter problems and you're not too attached to the distro I'd recommend trying something else, like pop OS, Nobara or Arch

[buoyant jay]

on debian 11 here, as it happens, on my (admittedly very non-fresh and fiddled with) install the above instructions to use proton ge do not work for me

I have had many pains about outdated stuff on debian and will probably switch eventually lol

but I wanna play poe noooooow

[brisk geode]

Nobara os, comes with most things needed to game and is very user friendly.

[visual fulcrum]

That's what I'm using as well, I have very few problems in PoE or other games, I can definitely recommend

[slim maple]

Disabling the steam overlay has seemed to reduce the crashes i get on arch/endeavor os

[fading topaz]

There was a recent update to the steam client that fixes some crashes caused by the overlay. Not sure if it helps with PoE specifically

[weak salmon]

Personally using kubuntu and poe works out of the box with just default steam Proton with steam installed normally

[raven burrow]

Someone on Arch that managed to run POE from steam? I am currently faced with "CreateDXGIFactory1: Call failed!" error

[fading topaz]

Works for me~

that's a GPU related error. What GPU and driver are you using?

[raven burrow]

I have an nvidia GPU, and when I installed steam i chose the nvidia-utils drivers

and when I installed arch i used the proprietary nvidia drivers

[fading topaz]

Are you using plain Arch or a derivative?

[raven burrow]

plane

[fading topaz]

Which GPU?

[raven burrow]

gtx 1050 ti

[fading topaz]

And you just installed the "nvidia" package?

Did you install any of the vulkan packages?

[raven burrow]

unless they are installed when you install steam, no

[fading topaz]

Check the wiki page and make sure you have all the vulkan packages (32 and 64 bit) ones listed there for Nvidia

[raven burrow]

It looks like they were installed when I installed Steam

[fading topaz]

Are you reaching the initial game menu, or does it crash right away?

[bronze anchor]

Could use some help, been playing on Linux for years with no problems. 2 days ago I started play, entered a map and it crashed hard in the wildwood. Whole computer frozen, had to reboot. When it came back up Steam wouldn't launch at all, I had to uninstall Steam completely an reinstall. I still can't get PoE to launch. It's installed again, button says Cancel and status is Launching but it never goes away. Nothing output to terminal, and trying to use PROTON_LOG=1 %command% generates no log at all. Other games launch under Proton without problem (and create logs). I can't find any information on what is going on, tried multiple versions of Proton with no success.

[fading topaz]

Can you check your system logs? If your whole PC froze, it could imply a system-related issue

[bronze anchor]

Yeah, everything is clear and running normally.

It's only PoE that won't launch, all other games on Steam work as they should and every application I normally use functions normally

left it running for the last 30 minutes, now it says it's running and proton log appeared (saying absolutely nothing)

midnight over here, giving up for the day but if anyone has suggestions I'll give it a try tomorrow

[craggy pendant]

I had singular instances of this before after some updates but it wouldn't come back after machine reboot

You could try the standard cliché driver update and proton update if any are available, if you haven't tried that yet

[analog phoenix]

you could also try deleting your poe config file
ive seen that fixing poe launch issues

[bronze anchor]

I've purged everything, PoE and Steam, then reinstalled. Won't run. If I let it sit for 20-30 minutes it will finally say it launched, but nothing is running (and don't see a new process). Proton log gets written, but only the header. Updated everything but video driver at this point, and of course rebooted.

[craggy pendant]

so maybe it was video driver after all?

Have you tried alternate Proton layers? Proton 8, experimental, GE?

[bronze anchor]

going to try reinstalling video drivers today, would be odd that it's the problem seeing as it was running just fine until the crash. I've tried every proton option on the list back to proton 5.

[craggy pendant]

the GE option is not on the default list and has to be downloaded externally

[bronze anchor]

think I'm back up. Purged all nvidia and reinstalled drivers.

[craggy pendant]

So it was the drivers in the end?

[inner galleon]

Maybe this is different for people who use steam, but I have sometimes have better luck with games using Heroic games launcher instead of Lutris

[craggy pendant]

yeah usually if you have a game on steam you just rely on Proton

[inner galleon]

I don't use steam, but for POE at least there is the option of using the standalone game and launch it via Lutris or Heroic.

[surreal wigeon]

Oh, there's a linux section here 🤓

Anyone else stuck with Proton 6? It works aight, so I'm not complaining, just wondering.
Any other Proton just starts up endlessly

[fading topaz]

I'm on the latest proton no problem

[surreal wigeon]

Might be I've done something 'magic' for the 6 in the past and I have no clue what it was, but at least it works.
It'll be a sad day when it doesn't.

[fading topaz]

Are you running the game with the Vulkan backend?

[surreal wigeon]

Yup

Maybe I'll have to leave some other version to start up for a whole day or something

[weak salmon]

I was stuck on an older proton until I updated my OS from a severely outdated version

Are your drivers up to date?

[inner galleon]

Even Linux are running Mesa [map] 😄

[inner edge]

hey ...

wanna install poe in linux

i use wayland

i am getting this error

help me?

[fading topaz]

What GPU and driver are you using?

[inner edge]

i use laptop

ryzen 5

integrated graphics

[fading topaz]

Is it crashing right away, or do you get to the game menu?

[inner edge]

nope it doesnt even start up

[fading topaz]

which linux distribution are you using?

[fading topaz]

can you try using proton-ge from the AUR?

[inner edge]

ill see and update you likewise

[inner edge]

first im sorry had a thing so didnt tried

second i just did and its still the same error

[inner galleon]

@inner edge Not sure how well it works on Arch, I'm on Linux Mint, but have you tried Lutris or Heroic Launcher? The latter worked for me, to at least get the game launching on my ancient PC. Can't really actually play it due to an old GPU, but it installed and launched, and I could log in.

[inner edge]

i didnt but i will

[inner edge]

nope it didnt work on my wayland

sadly

[cunning wraith]

im on arch linux Sway and i dont have this problem using proton expiremental, the only thing that may differ is your GPU and your DE (Hyprland). I was on Hyprland few months ago and PoE was running perfectly so i doubt its the DE but maybe an update broke something. Pretty sure its related to your GPU tho

@inner edge

[inner edge]

Yeah the difference is in GPU
Can't rlly change that lol

[surreal wigeon]

Yeah, drivers are quite fresh and being stuck at proton 6 should be telling there's been many driver versions since then..

[full radish]

sorry but poe not avalable on steam store in my location

so i cant use proton to install

what i can do to install poe in linux chat

i check lutris it update like year ago like outdated

[fading topaz]

I doubt the lutris config would need to be changed much. It should just be using the standalone game installer and launching that

If not, you could try doing the installer manually, through wine, or using something like Bottles

[weak salmon]

Installer manually through proton

[inner galleon]

Try to use Lutris, or Heroic Games Launcher. I've had good success with Heroic tbh. They have different "runners" too, just like Lutris

A while since I installed it now (too outdated PC so play on PS5), but probably used default settings.

[full radish]

ok thanks

thanks u all

[inner galleon]

Heroic can be downloaded from here btw. Many different files, so make sure to pick what looks most correct for the system you are on. https://github.com/Heroic-Games-Launcher/HeroicGamesLauncher

[fading talon]

If you are still having the issue. I had the same issue on manjaro with wayland and simply choosing a diffrent proton version fixed it. Can't exactly remember what version but maybe just try a few and see if it works for you.

[empty narwhal]

Hi. So Linux is my main Os, but I use Windows to play games.
And when I used the Poe trade site to send someone a whisper, it sent it in a different language for some reason.
How do I make it English?
I noticed that whenever I boot into Windows, the time is always wrong, even tho it's set to the correct time zone.

My profile on the website is set to English.

Same as in-game

[weak salmon]

Are you saying you're gaming on Windows?

If you're gaming on windows, this is like, one of the very few channels that's wrong to ask questions about windows in

[empty narwhal]

Good point. I just thought Linux is somehow affecting it somehow.
But I jus whispered someone else and it was in English.

[weak salmon]

all I can say is just make sure your preferred language is english.

Not sure exactly what decides the language of the message though

[empty narwhal]

Yeah, it was.
Also, craftofexile was in a diff language one time. Dunno if that's related.

[raw pollen]

I thought it sent the message in the recipient's language?

If you are dual booting having that other os wouldn't affect anything you would notice while using Windows

[weak salmon]

Oh yeah, it is

Didn't really think enough about what was being asked

[analog phoenix]

i also have the time thing happening to me. i should look into that. gets fixed as soon as windows synchronizes the time once but is wrong on windows boot

[fading topaz]

That will happen because the system time stored on your motherboard is read as a different format between Linux and Windows. Pretty common problem

Here's a example article about it https://itsfoss.com/wrong-time-dual-boot/

[fading talon]

Does anyone know if there is any trade overlay that works with kde plasma using wayland and isn't completely broken?

[fading topaz]

I was looking into it, and as far as I can tell, the libraries used to allow overlays to work all rely on Xorg functionality

[rough flint]

Ive gotten awakened poe trade to somewhat work with hyprland

Id imagine non tiling WMs are gonna be fine

[brisk geode]

for me on Nobara, Awakened poe works just fine by either just using their appimage or run the portable windows version with wine

[lavish wasp]

appimage works fine on gnome/xorg for me, didn't try on wayland

[plush mural]

how people got their pc on for 11 days is beyond me

[halcyon sable]

new persistent picture glitching/stuttering introduced recently, I'm guessing probably with the new kde update switching to wayland(?), anyone having similar issues or know a fix?

[cunning wraith]

when a pc is shut down its useless,

[craggy pendant]

the new Plasma 6 update is extremely effed. go back to your pre-update backup

and wait until they make it not force wayland on (especially for NVIDIA) as well as iron out the other bugs

I had a black screen with cursor on with no way of changing back to x11, only then I realised the big update probably was something major 😄

[halcyon sable]

figured, thanks

[plush mural]

stick 2 xorg unless wayland is actually good for gaming

[rapid skiff]

I have been using Wayland for gaming and streaming for like 2 years and the only problems I had related to running things on Wayland were with some flatpak apps like GeForce Now. Steam and Lutris runs fine.

[plush mural]

when i used wayland it performed significantly worse than xorg

[rapid skiff]

idk, maybe the OS makes a difference? I started using Pop_OS! with Cosmic and then changed to openSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma (Wayland)

[fading topaz]

the main difference would likely be the wayland implementation (KDE vs Gnome, etc.)

[plush mural]

arch here

[inner galleon]

does this depend on Linux somehow? I noticed the same, but thought it just sent the message in whatever language that user had or something. One time it was in Russian, and another time there was a German message. But I thought it was a feature instead of a Linux related issue 😐

[weak salmon]

No, it's just a feature that the chat message sent to trade is written in the language of the recipient. It's not related to playing on Linux.

[inner galleon]

thanks, that is what I thought

[full plover]

Boom #gamingonlinux

[analog phoenix]

ive got some weird issue with awakened poe trade. it seems like it doesnt properly focus the game client. it seems to fix itself when i open the awakened poe trade settings once and close them. the issue comes back every time i tab out of the game.

im running pop os with gnome.
awakened poe trade and poe were installed with lutris.

maybe someone has an idea about whats causing this

poe runs in borderless

[analog phoenix]

see the top bar. it shows up every second click. the game also registers only every second click
https://streamable.com/vgnkjh

[plush mural]

did u try windowed fullscreen

idk if it works

ik plasma has the thinfg to remove the borders

[analog phoenix]

i mentioned running it on borderless. if thats what you mean

well poe calls it windowed fullscreen

[brisk geode]

I just tried mine on Nobara and i don't get that, i only see my task bar when it shows the prices but all i have to do is press shift+space to get back to fullscreen(windowed) poe

[dense cliff]

i have this kind of laptop and i struggle to play path of exile on windows even loading screens are cringe even tho i have an m.2 ssd , maybe it will perform better if i can find a good distro , because this windows 11 is bloated , do you recommend me to change to linux , and if you guys got a guide or something it may help me , thank you

[fading topaz]

If you do go the linux rounte, you'll definitely want something lightweight

Your limiting factor will most likely be your RAM

Because you have onboard graphics, your RAM will be shared between regular stuff and the GPU. Even if you had the full 8GB available for the game, it will probably struggle some because both the game assets as well as the graphics portion will likely try to max it out

[latent escarp]

in all honesty you probably wont see much of a difference. Your best bet is to try and upgrade your laptop.

[brisk geode]

Yeah, would be easier to just either debloat windows or do a fresh install

[craggy pendant]

My old laptops were always rejuvenated by dropping the windows bloat and trying some distros so I think it's worth a try.

You can perform tryouts by making a live pendrive with distro of your choice and seeing how you like it before committing to moving to one.

As for PoE setup itself you just activate the Steam's compatibility layer Proton for it in properties of the game in the Steam client, or use a custom version of it if you prefer.

My issue with playing PoE on lower end hardware was usually to do with the processor, it was bottlenecking me quite a bit in the past

[plush mural]

arch linux if u can set it up

check if ur GPU is able to use vulkan graphics cuz if it cant u got NO LINUX GAMING EXPERIENCE

[stray geode]

8 GB is still too few. Unless you play SSF of course:) on the moment you have Awakened PoE and\or PoB, your 8 GB transforms to nothing. You can add swap always, but not sure if it worth it completely (glitches are expected). And definitely no juiced maps. CPU is important, but majority of background noise is still in RAM.

[marble viper]

something you may want to try is proton-ge, you can enable fsr and run the game at 1280x720 for example and fsr will upscale it to 1920x1080
https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom

[analog phoenix]

i dont think that would change the ram usage of the game

[plush mural]

thats why arch is good for minimizing the usage

pair it with dwm and ur pretty good

also creating swap storage

[rough sluice]

maybe try endeavour os
basically fancy arch gui installer
poe is on steam so you shouldnt have any issues

about performance
double check if its on the m.2 (steam -> settings -> storage)

[dusky field]

hmm ok, game crashes in lionseye watch, looks like I'm not playing

and when restarting it put me back into the queue at place 20k

hmm maybe i'll play another day

[bronze anchor]

Having the same problem

[void elbow]

hi, running poe from steam, my game changes between windowed and fullscreen almost every time i alt-tab. OBS loses track of the window to capture due to that, and it's a little annoying. any ideas what this is about?

[analog phoenix]

for me it seems to go out of fullscreen every time i alt tab. i now run borderless fullscreen. dont have any issues that way

[void elbow]

thought i tried that, but maybe it was obs messing with it. i'll try, thanks!

also... i cant turn off triple buffering?

[edgy sierra]

You can't turn off triple buffering because disabling triple buffering would crash the game immediately on SteamDeck/other AMD GPU's (maybe Nvidia too, I can't recall) under linux with the Vulkan renderer. Mesa devs suggested at the time that GGG might be doing something that violated the Vulkan spec with how they implemented VSync=off + TripleBuffering=off. Forced Triple buffering was the end result of that.

It might theoretically be possible to disable with some hijinks but I haven't bothered with them.

[void elbow]

oh thats fun...

[plush mural]

saviour of linux gaming right here

[oak shadow]

Anyone else getting crashes occasionally on zone changes? Seen to get at least One ever 4 hours or so

[tranquil pollen]

any1 had problems with small stuttering? I'm running arch with nvidia and tried with bottles and steam but keep having this constat mini stutter for some reason. didnt have this issue with endeavour/fedora/opensuse back in the days which is weird.

[plush mural]

my CPU respose went from 2-4 -> 14-16
and GPY went from 8-10 -> 20-24

just GGG

u will soon need 2 nasa specced PC's to play white maps

[craggy pendant]

don't have any stutters, but definitely crashing in Rogue Harbour randomly

[void elbow]

only issue i've had is my pc freezing, but might just be something with temps/drivers. game itself runs really smooth

[fading topaz]

From my experience, stuttering is commonly caused by the dynamic resolution setting being turned on

It can also help to pass in the launch option for --waitforpreload

[plush mural]

is there any way to do this on the normal launcher

[fading topaz]

Yeah. You can create a shortcut to the exe and add it. See https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Launch_options for info

[plush mural]

arigato cubethethird chan

[plush mural]

tried it

doesnt work

:D

[fading topaz]

what cpu/gpu you running?

[plush mural]

it talked about the path

change the goal blabla

[fading topaz]

ohhh

[plush mural]

i added the —nologo but shit gave me an error

[fading topaz]

but like, without those, the shortcut launches the game?

[plush mural]

didnt bother to check since i failed to set those settings

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[fading topaz]

lol

assuming it does, make sure you add the options AFTER the quotes, including a space

oh derp I'm thinking of windows

I'm not actually what is normally used to launch standalone

but I'd assume you'd still do like ./client --nologo

[void elbow]

alright i dont get this, i set my game to windowed fullscreen but alt tabbing makes it go windowed, alt tabbing back in makes it go fullscreen???

[near prism]

What DE are you using and X or Wayland?

[weak salmon]

That has been happening to me too for a while after I accidentally change my settings

It's so weird and so annoying

I don't remember what I did to fix it

But it might've been something like, make sure to set it to windowed fullscreen, save settings, and close the game.

Not sure

All I remember is that it's enough of a pain that I just don't touch that button

[void elbow]

looks like setting to full screen and then back to windowed full screen fixes it

i think it happens when i accidentally press alt and enter

[near prism]

Yeah alt-enter switches between windowed and full screen

[void elbow]

yeah i know that part, but then this happens

even if you try to change back to windowed fullscreen. you gotta switch to full screen first

[tranquil pollen]

I wish this would have been the fix. still having the issue and tried to install with bottles, lutris and steam with different runners. while the game is running, mini stuttering happens alt tabbed as well and it can be seen while dragging a window around. when I launch the game btop tells me that GPU load goes to 100%

[nova bronze]

@tranquil pollen try GE-proton 9.2 /w Vulkan & Lutris. Should play like butter.

[pale basin]

Does Lutris do something performance wise?

[fading topaz]

Doubtful

[pale basin]

Btw if anyone else ends up having the same issue, my game stopped recognizing the steam deck controller suddently but updating my proton version solved it

One thing that helped my performance a lot in all games was installing CryoUtilities

It fixes SD's swappiness

[spark parrot]

What linux distro is best for poe wanna try it,have nvidia gpu. Have installed linux before wish to install alognside windows, and install distro steam dl and play, some distro which is autoconfigured with driver wine-staging and so on?

[fading topaz]

You looking to play through Steam? If so you don't necessarily need wine pre-configured. Also, do you ONLY have an Nvidia GPU, or do you have a hybrid laptop?

[spark parrot]

Just tried instal wasted whole day on it,not so good so many problems steam throles poe dl ,gui randomly crashes some bugs with keyboard gnome moslty.Tried dat nebura os and plop os, still same problems with linux like 2 years ago display manger random bugs you have to search some random obscure stuff to make it work, shame, gonna try later again.

[weak salmon]

For me, I'm just playing on what's probably a clean install of my distro and steam and poe works good via proton. I have an AMD GPU though. Using Kubuntu. Can't promise it would be as smooth with an NVIDIA GPU.

[compact marsh]

I did not have many issues when I tried it. It was mostly fine, some bugs here and there and it crashed only once.

I was on a Nvidia GPU, AMD CPU and Vulkan (DX11/12 dont quite work for it)

[winged breach]

That's how it goes though. Only a waste if you didn't learn anything. Good luck

[gaunt gale]

hey. anyone got discord integration properly running ? character, league, and location

[stiff pumice]

I spend about a third of my playtime on the steam deck oled

Game is running great at 40hz

I have cryo utilities installed

an issue I notice with both Path of Exile and Last Epoch is if I put the deck into sleep mode and try to run a game after resuming, the game would not recognize the controls

I would have to restart the steam deck to fix it

[lapis moth]

Hello! I am really new to PoE and am trying to finally set up stuff like beginners guides try to sugguest to me.

I was trying to work on setting up path of builder through lutris, and though I can launch off of a fresh install at the end of the install process, I cannot launch the application off the same install after that.

[weak salmon]

Maybe try using Proton instead

And if you just want to look at a pob for the sake of reading a guide you can always just import it to poeplanner.com

[lapis moth]

Thanks I'll try that out tonight after I get off of work

[lapis moth]

Alright I was trying to set up an item filter by following the guide over in #1223341926045188247 message

I followed the filter posts on the PoE website, but it was not updating in game to show the file in the dropdown.

[gaunt gale]

on arch, aur/path-of-building-community-git works well

[visual fulcrum]

Just use the Flatpak, it works perfectly fine and is available on all distros

[lapis moth]

Do yall have a way to get filters installed properly? I was attempting it by following the guide left in this server, but noticed that due to proton, (I guess), I can't really find the downloaded filters I got off of PathofBlades or even just the PoE forums.

[nova bronze]

Two most straightforward ways are either subscribing to them (on the forum), or dropping the filters in your ~/Games/path-of-exile/drive_c/users/$USER/Documents/My\ Games/Path\ of\ Exile/ directory. This may differ whther you're using Steam or Lutris, but you should be able to use that as an example.

~/Games/path-of-exile is the lutris path I have POE installed into

another quick way is right click on poe in lutris -> browse files

and then you just have to path into drive_c/users/...etc/

[lapis moth]

I'll try that out tonight. Last night while attempting to do it, subscribing to them on the forum did nothing. And for some reason I tried dragging a downloaded filter into the directory page shown when I clicked on the folder icon in-game, but that never worked either.

[nova bronze]

Happy to run through it if I'm online and you're around, should be straightforward.

[lapis moth]

Yeah, I get home about 10 hours from now....

[nova bronze]

Just send me a ping; I'll likely be on.

[lapis moth]

But I get off earlier the next two days, and have wendesday/Thursday off

Right on.

[weak salmon]

Subscribing to a filter should definitely work so long as you're actually logged in with the right account, but I dunno about the forum, it's simply on the item filter section.
https://www.pathofexile.com/item-filter/ladder/follower

You do realise you also gotta select it in game and save settings afterwards right?

[lapis moth]

Yeah, I had subscribed to the semi-strict ones I was suggested to look into as a new player, but the only options I had in game were <none> and default

[weak salmon]

And you're sure you're using the same account?

And you restarted game after subscribing?

[lapis moth]

Multiple times

Even went as far as to restart my steam client completely, and later my PC

[weak salmon]

And you used the same steam account to log in to the website?

[lapis moth]

Yeah

The PoE website shows both characters I've made so far so I was in the belief that I logged in correctly.

[weak salmon]

Weird

[azure breach]

I couldn't launch POB at all through lutris, but there was a Flatpak for POB community fork in the software manager on Linux Mint so maybe check there if you have further issues

[lapis moth]

Can do, thanks for the advice.

[azure breach]

No worries! As for the other issue you're having, I'm not sure. It took a little while for the filters to show up for me. They just weren't working, but I reopened the game after some time and there they were lol

[analog phoenix]

i had to select a newer wine version for it to work. not sure why the previous version stopped working at some point

[compact marsh]

Do you need to run it through Wine? Wouldn't Lua compile just fine?

[analog phoenix]

the renderer is written in cpp and is precompiled
its a .exe file

[noble lion]

there is/was some crossplatform frontend fork https://github.com/ernstp/pobfrontend.git#branch=qt6

It was used by AUR and still seems to work

[analog phoenix]

thats good to know

[cold cloak]

i try, but not clear how to build pobfrontend.

[analog phoenix]

the readme has a step by step guide

[languid holly]

any1 got problems with poe that juts disappears sometimes?

i just see my desktop wallpaper and poe cursor and i hear the game sound but i cant see it

also is this true?

[weak salmon]

No. Best I can dig up on short notice, aside from the fact that I've never heard anyone else say they've been banned for Proton is this comment and its reply from GGG
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/im2x1i/comment/g3wt62m/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[weak salmon]

Not me, at least. And I've never heard anyone say that either, but I don't exactly look for such things

[languid holly]

what DE/WM u use?

[weak salmon]

Kubuntu

And on a side note I can say I've got more than 1k hours on poe via Proton and no issues with GGG

And no issues with crashing that couldn't be fixed by downgrading proton or updating stuff

[languid holly]

I never like fully crashed yet

my game juts kinda disappears visually

[compact marsh]

I dont think this was a linux problem but I think it affected new players randomly

But haven't heard reports recently

[south cloak]

It runs perfect on the steam deck for what it's worth

Which is basically KDE neon

It has a "verified" rating which is accurate although easier to play with mouse and keyboard attached

[frozen sonnet]

Xubuntu 22.04 > Steam > Proton Experimental here with AMD RX 5500. No issues so far.

[loud timber]

Is this one of those games that runs way better on Linux?

[void elbow]

feels like that to me at least

[compact marsh]

Depends, dx12 has better optimization when it comes to dynamic culling or dynamic resolution than vulkan on poe

Other than this I didn't see many differences

[worn pond]

I'm having issues with awakened poe trade on arch, where sometimes it seems to crash. There's nothing out of ordinary in the logfile, it just ends up closing with no warning

seems to succeed with status code 0 as well

think its something with my second monitor tbh

its possible its this issue tbh though im not segfaulting
https://github.com/SnosMe/awakened-poe-trade/issues/1358

ill try the old version

[compact marsh]

Nothing on journalctl as well? Segmentation faults would show up on it

[fading topaz]

Woa. I just noticed my steam shader cache is over 25GB. Anyone know if this is something I should clear out?

[analog phoenix]

if you dont encounter any issues i dont see a problem with it. it gets cleared each league start anyways

[plush mural]

i wonder how much of that is purely POE

Many times when u get a random freeze its just shaders getting something

[fading topaz]

I have the --waitforpreload flag so in theory I shouldn't be getting that. I haven't noticed any random freezes

[full radish]

any1 install poe in debian 12 xfce withou steam ?

i new in linux and poe too

[analog phoenix]

use lutris to install non steam games. it almost always works out of the box

[full radish]

thanks

[analog phoenix]

• in lutris click on add game at the top left
• select "search the lutris website for installers"
• search for path of exile
• select it and select the standalone w/ DXVK installer

the other steps are fairly self explanatory. make sure to change your renderer to either vulkan or dx12 after starting the game. dx11 is quite meh

@full radish

[full radish]

thanks bro

[dull oriole]

anyone here run Poe in a win 10 vm using GPU pass through via vbox or qemu on any version of linux?

[lapis moth]

I am constantly crashing all of the sudden today.

Anyone else having this issue?

It keeps giving me this popup each and every time.

I've done both clearing my cache and my shader files.

[tame phoenix]

I have been periodically and my friend just cant even log in when he loads the game it insta crashes

[lapis moth]

Yeah it's done that to me a couple of times so far as well.

Just crash upon first load into the game.

[tame phoenix]

changing the directx and clearing cache doesn nothing as well.

[lapis moth]

Yeah I've noticed.

[tame phoenix]

I seem to have the issue sporadically but he can't even log into a character

[tame phoenix]

Just noticed this is the linux chat, I am on windows and getting the same. Seems to happen a lot in the town hubs. Saw some suggestion the ghostveil cosmetic is causing it

[brazen fractal]

do you guys know if the Flatpak for PoB Community gets autoupdated with each league?

i am not a huge fan of Flatpak but it doesn't seem like I have another option

[left forge]

my game has crashed 3 times in first map since today's patch, please does anyone have any advice? playing on steam deck fwiw...

[azure breach]

A hotfix came out about ten mins ago which should've addressed the above issue

[left forge]

that hotfix let me finish first map but now on second map i crash every time i load a new area (it's glacier so outdoor to indoor transition and indoor to boss arena transition both crash) 🤷🏻‍♂️

[azure breach]

Yeah seems like there's something else going on, a few other people have mentioned the same

[left forge]

ah okay, thanks for letting me know i'm not the only one! 😅