Or: "Crap, they found out what it is... lets claim its not that so they keep wondering what it is and maybe forget that they thought it was going to be that"
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wicked compass
Hi guys Ultimatum is back to Core in 3.17?
tawny pasture
maybe
wicked compass
🙏
frosty basin
An orb of ice and fire
frosty basin
Depends on the context
slender temple
when the complexity has diminishing returns on the leverage to improve the system?
violet nymph
Because it's atlas rework this time around and the conquers aren't going to be on the atlas as normal enemies.
The currencies use the same colors as the seige of the atlas image. And would make the most sense as the currency from the bosses.
slow coyote
Nice theory... Still just a theory.
violet nymph
It's at least based in reality unlike the harvest orb theories
vernal isle
zana is gone?
glass seal
zana never existed as we killed her dad in a timeline before he had her
indigo wolf
zana never existed
still sane, exile?
mystic bolt
Uhm.. Maybe I am an idiot, but why would ritual ever be worth 13c?
neat rover
it was always worth it
mystic bolt
Really? I started ignoring it after a while because I never got something good out of it.
Well.. I guess that was a bad call.
violet nymph
@mystic bolt high item level ritual bases go for good money as well as high ilvl zones giving better drops in general
neat rover
fuck, cant wait to nolife poe 😄
too bad i have only 1 week to do it then back to old life
despair
swift pagoda
3.13 Ritual
wind sundial
I don't get to no life poe
violet nymph
good thing league launch is a disaster for like 12h anyway
best to wait
ulti 😭
so what happens on the big yearly updates
new bosses n shit?
crisp tree
what
violet nymph
i know ritual added maven
swift pagoda
Endgame gets updated or revamped
violet nymph
they have the leagues and then the biiig yearly update which is this one saga
swift pagoda
This time it's a new endgame with new bosses
violet nymph
ah okay cool
Last time it was atlas passives and maven shit.
this time it's a replacement of the conquer system
o.O
is that what they're going to reveal tommorow?
how it works
swift pagoda
yes
violet nymph
sick
slow coyote
No-one knows. PoE2 could be years away still.
urban torrent
there will be no screenshot teaser, like before scourge?(
tawny pasture
there will be no screenshot teaser, like before scourge?(
Tomorow
last river
Yeah, that
tawny pasture
Who said zana was dead tho
rotund pine
she'll live forever on our tshirt
mint bloom
we met Zana in the endgame quest in the first place
so maybe now we just wont meet her
would be unsatisfying though, so probably not
gentle sonnet
Zana is the new endgame boss maybe,
primal whale
dense ruin
Ready to get fked by analZ
mint bloom
if we fight Zana that'll be lame
azure marsh
Chaos Zana
slender temple
the zana time travel theory just seems wrong. why the vaal?
she could have easily brought skill gem tech back to her own people which is more believable
sharp valley
people acting on logic with time travel is the most anti time travel plotline that ever existis
rocky nebula
Time travel is often such a deus ex machina plot device too
slender temple
y eah . if you ever seen or read interviews with piers anthony . he basically says the writer can make up anything they want so long as its interesting
it doesnt have to make sense
so i can see that side of the argument
i dont have to like it though hhaha
rocky nebula
Hope they bring back Ultimatum at some point
mint bloom
Chris said it'll come in 3.17
tawny pasture
false
mint bloom
but that was a while ago
mint bloom
yes of course
it's not confirmed till it's announced
but he did say they are planning on it
who knows if it's been delayed
tender ibex
I can finally make my hateforge, stasis prison, mageblood, squire build I always wanted
And yes. It used Relic of the Pact! Lmao
mystic bolt
I actually theorycrafted a build that was based on stasis prison when it was announced..
I was SO sad when I realised HOW rare it was..
I wish there was a testing chamber or something like that where I can test if it even works the way I think it does..
Spending that amount of money just to see the build not working would be very sad..
tender ibex
We might get div cards for it, mb and squire. I cant make up my mind if I want that or not tho
Oldschool chase uniques are good to have
mystic bolt
I think it would be better to have weaker versions of chase items.
The big ones are still super rare, but if you need the item for your build to work you can use lesser version.
For example a HH that only steals up to 5 mods.
Or a Squire that only has 2 sockets.
Or a Stasis Prison with only 70% recovery or something like that.
Right now it just makes certain builds impossible without heavy investment.
tender ibex
Its been suggested weaker keystones could be implemented that could serve the same purpose or as a stepping stone towards the real thing. I think thats a pretty cool idea
Also most people see Standard as your Testing Chamber as well as PoB ofc
mystic bolt
Well.. Can you buy a Stasis Prison in Standard?
Maybe after the league.
tender ibex
Im a pretty mediocre player. I think maaaybe I can afford it in standard lmao
Oh isnt it part of the core game? Iirc it is
mystic bolt
Its more like that there were none available for a super long time.
And then obviously every super rich standard guy jumped on them.
There are only very few people playing in that mode.
tender ibex
Makes sense yea
mystic bolt
So of course you can test stuff there! But not if the item was only introduced this league.
next epoch
Well.. Can you buy a Stasis Prison in Standard?
Maybe after the league.
there is literally one Stasis Prison listed in standard trade... for three mirrors
mystic bolt
Yep! And the math for my build is way too hard for me to calculate on paper.
I would really need to test it before knowing if it works or not 😄
rocky nebula
It only drops in Uber domain of timeless conflict
strange spear
cant stop being excited about todays reveal
jovial jasper
Is patch note right after reveal ?
tawny pasture
we dont know
jovial jasper
I can read english but im not sure to be able to understand what they say during the stream haha ^^'
tawny pasture
we didnt had the stream yet
tawny pasture
if you speak french i can help
indigo wolf
On a stream? On twitch?
I don't think twitch has any kind of auto generated CC, and I'd be very surprised if anyone even thought for a second about subtitles on something that isn't a show (i.e. "tv")
jovial jasper
That why i hope for a patch note soon after the reveal ^^
next epoch
youtube technically has autogenerated captions but they typically range from "hilariously bad" to "completely useless"
magic jackal
So did I miss something or are there no new skill gems?
hasty perch
You can self cast now so thats a lot of new viable builds 👀
magic jackal
Darn, I usually try new leagues for skills
simple vale
There is no new skill gems?
covert nacelle
doesn't look like it
simple vale
D:
royal iris
I missed something they just said on stream--- how does party play work with Archnemesis?
I heard the bit that only 1 person can decide to put in their orbs
but what about the orbs dropping in the maps themselves?
if I run 1 map with a friend, is it only the map owner who can pick up those Archnemesis orb piece thingies?
hasty perch
storing the league items in a dedicated inventory 
at last
should be the case every league
torn panther
I heard the bit that only 1 person can decide to put in their orbs
that's correct, similar to other leagues, only the map owner can make decisions
royal iris
that's correct, similar to other leagues, only the map owner can make decisions
that's not my question tho
I understand that but regarding the items that you put into the archnemesis statues
Chris said around 2 to 3 of those will drop per map, in a seperate segment
but in a multiplayer case, does every player get 2 or 3 per map, or only the map owner
torn panther
only the map owner can get it
royal iris
I thought they were moving away from non-multiplayer enabled mechanics
its just a straight up loss of value to run maps together then
😔
whoever isn't the map owner becomes the suckers who run the map but just waste time because they can't progress anything on their own
I guess I will rewatch teh archived stream because I feel that can't be correct
glass seal
and servers down becuase everyones spamming f5 for patchnotes
tepid tundra
can scion use the ascendancy jewel?
devout osprey
yes, she gets her own jewels
tepid tundra
yes, she gets her own jewels
Thanks !
glass seal
I predict those jewels for anything even remotely good, is gonna be 1 passive voice prices
shell linden
Man I'm so not excited for the end game again just because the campaign takes forever and at this point it's just a chore to get the new content
glass seal
it takes a wopping 1 day
You may be happier playing like candy crush, or zombies vs plants
if 1 day every 3 months is to much work
shell linden
Sorry that I work 50 hour weeks and want to play an RPG
lilac saffron
stop working 50 hours a week
shell linden
Don't need to be a bitter ass because my life is different and I'm not running a meta build every league lmao
strong tapir
sounds like a u problem and not a league problem to be fair
glass seal
I don't know, he has a point, who is going to think of the people who have less time then others, but also choose to use terrible skills so they can't maximize their own time
they are a minority who just isn't getting enough love
sage hatch
if you want to play something more casual there is probably always going to be diablo
fallow compass
blight ravaged maps buffed
stone tide
You guys think the new bosses will have phases? Shaper... ugh... Maven phases..
or will we be able to just fight them like a proper boss, mano el mano?
glass seal
I think all bosses get phases now
it was really the only way to counter insane dps builds
summer zinc
Couldn’t watch the actual stream. Do we actually know what Omniscience is yet?
rotund pine
although nightblade is not nerfed, i think im stick with totem explosive arrow, feels safer for league mechanic
junior belfry
So if im not mistaken, you now need to kill Maven, Uber Edler, and the two new big bosses to progress in maps?
lilac saffron
No
The outer part of the atlas is tier 16 regardless
Even if you dont have the stones
I think
glass seal
Thats what the video showed, every tier was there starting from tier 1 to 16. and then as you kill each major boss, it raised all the lower tiers up to the 14-16 range
violet nymph
Thats what the video showed, every tier was there starting from tier 1 to 16. ...
it was said that every map is able to be a t16 now with all 4 voidstones.
glass seal
I didnt hear that
stray mortar
So I wasn't there during the live did they do anything about map sustain ( At one point it stop being a problem but in the beginning it is one. )
stray mortar
Is there somewhere I can see those new atlas passives ?
glass seal
it was said that every map is able to be a t16 now with all 4 voidstones.
found it, your right they said all maps to tier 16
distant harness
Not yet
stray mortar
Well let's hope the passive is good enough then
foggy ocean
Was there really only 3 new gems or have they said if they are teasing more over the week
distant harness
Only 3, No new skills
violet nymph
no new skills yup
indigo wolf
Is there somewhere I can see those new atlas passives ?
Someone mosaic'ed together what they showed on stream but only showed the notables, not small nodes
https://i.imgur.com/EysNLUv.jpg (big, need to zoom in to read) (node text seems inaccurate)
stray mortar
Someone mosaic'ed together what they showed on stream but only showed the notabl...
Well I don't see anything about map sustain. I guess it was naïve of me thinking they'd do anything about it.
vernal isle
if 1 day every 3 months is to much work
1 day of content I've seen 20 times is 1 day too much
daring herald
Are we getting more patch notes?
lilac saffron
Well I don't see anything about map sustain. I guess it was naïve of me thinking...
They specified a bunch of nodes will be about maps
silver kettle
Are we getting more patch notes?
these are the full patch notes, but there are usually a couple of small last minute additions, which will be added in a section down the bottom
silver kettle
Wait, I just noticed these nodes talk about favour again
the text in that image is definitely not taken from the stream
indigo wolf
Ah
daring herald
Oh? Figured there would be more gem changes, especially to bow skills
And ascendency tweaks
indigo wolf
Maybe they crossreferenced the icons from previous atlas trees but grabbed old text.
ocean narwhal
That first one on the bottom that's labeled kirac is strongboxes tho isn't it?
Dang legion is on the other side of blight
karmic terrace
did i miss something or are there no new skill gems?
violet nymph
did i miss something or are there no new skill gems?
there are no active skills. just the two blessing skills and mark on hit.
sonic glen
with primordial blocks leaving the map pool, there's no way to get the hideout yes?
indigo wolf
For now. Maps shuffle every league, it will probably come back
tawny pasture
Or get it before patch
indigo wolf
Wouldn't standard still have some primordial block maps floating around too, even if it wasn't on the atlas? I am not familiar with how that works.
Probably be a pain in the ass buying them, though
tawny pasture
Yup
stray mortar
Wait so if I understand correctly you need to defeat 4 end game boss two of which existed and like 95% of people never saw to get higher tier map. Will we get only t1-5 map to do that ?
violet nymph
Wait so if I understand correctly you need to defeat 4 end game boss two of whic...
no.
So map atlas goes from 1-16 natively now.
To convert more and more of your tree to t16 you can fight those bosses but you will not have to fight them to reach t16s
lean yacht
I think you get the Voidstones for the new bosses most likely after the first time you beat them. They shouldn't be that hard to reach.
violet nymph
I think you get the Voidstones for the new bosses most likely after the first ti...
they did say that the new bosses are roughly as powerful as the maven boss fight without mods.
lean yacht
that's reasonable
violet nymph
which means most players won't be able to get them.
but that doesn't really matter you can still run t16s with them. just you will have fewer choices.
lean yacht
otherwise you can for sure easily buy boss runs to get your Voidstones
violet nymph
true
karmic terrace
what skill was that in the trailer? the yellow lightning channel with the homing balls
silver kettle
what skill was that in the trailer? the yellow lightning channel with the homing...
storm burst
karmic terrace
kk tysm
tranquil sky
So when Chris said you can only use the first 4 Archnemesis thingies in a map, despite more than 4 spawning per map, what the fuck does that mean? I'm assuming he meant the first 4 you choose to use right? not literally the first 4 you see in the map..
violet nymph
So when Chris said you can only use the first 4 Archnemesis thingies in a map, d...
it's the first 4 points on the map that you cross that had a possible spawn location and then making the rest of the spawn locations deactivate.
think of it like there are 10 points in the map that can spawn in a straight line, if you went along that line, only the first 4 would spawn in. and the rest would not.
tranquil sky
Ah right, that makes way more sense, thank you
violet nymph
it's just so you dont' have to backtrack to see them if you pass one of their spots. @tranquil sky
violet nymph
hello guys which are best league starter builds in 3.17?
tawny pasture
the one that is fun to play for you
tranquil sky
Prolly the ones in the #1┃build-planning #build-guides & #build-fixing channels
slender temple
hmmmmmmmmmm
so kamil and the art peopel were defiantely playing alot of mass effect
hahahaha
this looks like some kind of turian/asari mix
and the arch nemesis muusic sounds like someting from the first mass effect game
lucid token
What are the mtx for this league
tawny pasture
lucid token
Meh
lone parrot
peak blaze
so is Voidshot more like Voidshit now or what yall think
bitter ledge
Are the arch nemesis thingies based per map, like metamorph organs?
tawny pasture
yeah
bitter ledge
Sadge
I guess that makes sense though, because otherwise people would just stock up on specific rewards
A shame that they’re not autopickup then
bitter ledge
Wait, can they be traded as well then?
peak blaze
rough times
random juniper
What class is the most viable for coc ice nova as a leaguestarter
tawny pasture
its easier to respect into coc from cold dot occu imo
random juniper
And for leveling?
random juniper
Ok, so occultist is easier to respec
strong jasper
Are the mod items for Archnemesis permanent or do you lose them after you do your fights on a map and need to get more?
slender temple
i think they are used up for one fight only
strong jasper
Yeah that's what it looks like
Wonder what happens if you don't have any....probably need to go kill some magic/rares to get more
slender temple
from what i udnrestand
we will get 2 mod stones per map
and you dont have to use htem
distant harness
Ye 2 per map, saved in inventory for whenever you want to use them. And if you use 1 on the first shrine, then you can activate all 4 shrines and they will at least have that 1 mod on it, you can add more mods per shrine if you want I think
lone parrot
honestly the idea of having 2 per map is really good because in theory you wont get burned out as quickly
for me i get extremely burned out when i have to encounter the new league mechanic every single area
i mean i still can, but if i want a juiced one, i wait 2 maps or until i get good mods
slender temple
i guess well find out challenge rewards over the weekend?
frosty aurora
Chris mentioned you're expecting to drop 2 or 3 needless to say "organs" or "rare mobs" per map?
seems like a ritual scenario where you're collecting to do the big profits
with vessels
tawny pasture
?
waxen spire
2 of the mod thing slot
waxen spire
Because you need 4 per map
distant harness
Pretty sure you can open all 4 shrines with only 1 of the consumable items
tawny pasture
yeah
waxen spire
Oh
distant harness
Maybe even 0
waxen spire
I though you needed to always add one
tawny pasture
nah
distant harness
They just aren’t juiced
tawny pasture
the more you add the harder it is but the more loot you get
waxen spire
The recipes looks cool tho
wanton rivet
u need a token to activate the statue
magic jackal
Anyone know of somewhere that gives a rough guesstimate of how much damage we likely gained with bows?
I wanna go bow but wondering if spells got buffed more
tired condor
it looks like bows got more of a buff to me, but maybe with that new unique staff spells could do some nice damage
bright kayak
How do we get Fated Uniques, like Malachi's Awakening in 3.17?
slender temple
no such thing. they will simply just be regular uniques
no prophecy upgrades. they will just drop
some will come from specific sources but most will just be global drops.
its in the patch notes
slender temple
and they told us like a month ago too.
theres a list in the aptchnotes
of which are removed.
they aregarbage stat sticks for the most part so no worries
worthless uniques
but if you are a collector. better hit up navali
and collect!
livid apex
How do we get Fated Uniques, like Malachi's Awakening in 3.17?
Fated Unique Items not mentioned above now have a chance to drop from any endgame map boss. This is a temporary measure to maintain their availability. They will be moved to a new acquisition system in a future expansion.
in accord:
The following Fated Unique items will no longer be obtainable outside of trading with other players in permanent leagues: Corona Solaris, Crystal Vault, Deidbellow, Dreadsurge, Ezomyte Hold, Fox's Fortune, Greedtrap, Hrimnor's Dirge, Kaltensoul, Karui Charge, Martyr's Crown, Mirebough, Ngamahu Tiki, Panquetzaliztli, Realm Ender, Sanguine Gambol, Shavronne's Gambit, Silverbough, Sunspite, The Effigon, The Gryphon, The Oak, Voidheart, and Wall of Brambles.
F for effigon 😔
slender temple
EFF is gone
dusty umbra
F for karui charge
tawdry knoll
Karui discharge
past sierra
Do we have some good, cheap builds put out by anyone yet?
ember slate
So when Chris said you can only use the first 4 Archnemesis thingies in a map, d...
it means you have multiple altars but only the first 4 you activate will be counted, he said " To Avoid Backtracking"
pastel mauve
Basically means you don't have to search an entire map for the last one after you're already done
cause good chance you'll have run into 4 already
ember slate
yep
and when you have the things already just progressing into the map , you can do the one you find
hasty perch
Inquisitor lowkey looks nuts for leaguestarting with the changes 👀
Grabbing a random 200 flat damage staff at level 35 after first lab with the 300+% damage effectiveness of stuff like purif flame , wave etc
Same for early game just rolling a 5-10 added ele damage to spells with the new effectiveness is going to carry so hard
honest ivy
i'm curious with new apply mark on hit support gem if i kill x enemy in one hit do i still get the mark bonus for killing them?
slow coyote
I would say yes. I presume it works like: apply damage, apply mark, check if mob is still alive.
honest ivy
Flicker might be a better league starter now than before if that's how it works
slow coyote
I don't think many people would agree that flicker strike makes a good league starter...
You'd normally level with another skill and then respec.
honest ivy
Nah I'm saying it's a better potential league starter than before cause the main thing that stopped it was poor frenzy generation but with marks being applied on hit now that helps alleviate some of that issue
If you wanted to league start flicker you were normally forced to go into ignite flicker
past sierra
hopefully some really solid build guides come out soon
tawny pasture
you can play all build from last league you know ?
past sierra
i didn't play the last two leagues
but you are correct.. they really didn't change much i could look at 3.16 builds
i tend to like builds that are strong without tons of investment (i don't like doing "league starter, then another build) but can then scale if you do get currency
proper widget
glad the atlas is worth playing again, last expac put all the weight on league content and trading
tender ibex
atlas passive tree masteries and jewel sockets when
neat rover
when time comes
rocky nebula
when are they going to remove dead mods like item rarity and stun and block recovery?
proper widget
never
narrow crown
item rarity isn't dead, not particularly useful but there are builds that semi focus on that.
lusty burrow
there are so many people that think masteries are a thing on the atlas tree lol
go on any reddit thread related to atlas passives and they talk about how it looks like the symbols are glowing as if they're masteries
slender temple
go on any reddit thread related to atlas passives and they talk about how it loo...
hey we just got them and wwe like them on hte skill tree so it makes sense intuitively. just sad no jewel, cluster or keystones
keen merlin
It's understandable. Passive tree masteries visually looks so much better than those spots on the tree did before and it feels like the atlas tree used those visuals as inspiration with how they're glowing and shit.
But I mean I only thought it was a possibility for about 3 seconds i didnt go theorizing on reddit off of that...
slender temple
ill theorize once ggg gives us the tree
lusty burrow
when ggg gives us the tree we'll know for a fact one way or the other lol
tawny pasture
lilac saffron
I think there will be broken options
violet nymph
we need atlas tree on PoB
slow lake
there is
slow coyote
we need atlas tree on PoB
It's open source software, you could help them add it in.
slow coyote
I think people just like the idea of keeping their trees in one place. To be fair, half the work is already done in PoB (importing/exporting data, pathing logic, the UI). It wouldn't be the worst idea.
But as a dev that's worked on open source... I have no expectation for them to do it. If I don't contribute, I can't demand it 😄
violet nymph
its a whole 600 passive point tree, it will be in PoB
one thing history has shown in PoE is that when community wants QoL changes - they happen
slow coyote
its a whole 600 passive point tree, it will be in PoB
'it will be' 🤣
OSS depends on volunteers putting in the work to add features. No-one should make any assumptions about what might go in unless they're willing to do the work themselves.
And I doubt the atlas tree is going to be as oriented toward 'simple' calculations like 'what is the DPS of this build?'. It can't just tell you the profitability of a build, so it ends up just being a tool to track your desired build.
wet plaza
its literally ctrl+f $mechanic you want to play
pale hemlock
Self -cast buffs are a Jebait 
indigo wolf
I was thinking that it would be nice for a planner but PoB is vastly more complex than necessary for an atlas planner. It's not like you need to calculate 1000 different minutiae as they interact with each other.
But I think GGG themselves should add one to their website at least.
rancid ledge
EA bait 🙂
tawny pasture
But I think GGG themselves should add one to their website at least.
they will probably just like you can build passive tree
rancid ledge
did they mention when they releasing the tree?
tawny pasture
indigo wolf
Yeah, just so you get an idea of how much your planned nodes are going to cost to reach, instead of autistically counting each one manually.
rancid ledge
ah
violet nymph
And I doubt the atlas tree is going to be as oriented toward 'simple' calculatio...
just because its convienently on PoB doesnt mean it needs complicated calculations?
some people like to drink tap water, some people drink from puddles. I like my water filtered
slow coyote
My point is that if it doesn't need those calculations, it doesn't need to be part of a fancy tool.
You can argue all you want. If you're not contributing to OSS, you don't get a say in what's included 🤷♂️
tawny pasture
dont argue too much mono , he is an obvious troll
violet nymph
You can argue all you want. If you're not contributing to OSS, you don't get a s...
you ever heard of "community requests"?
or maybe you think PoB was made by the help of every single player in the game?
yOu GuYs DoNt DeVeLoP pOe So YoU hAvE nO sAy WhAt iT nEeDs - GGG in monos alternate universe (on reddit lol)
meanwhile maybe they also should revert all the QoL changes in the game with all the "fancy" league mechanics
haughty oracle
imagine u get a scion ascendency gem :I
wanton flower
Do you guys think there will be a boss for archnem? Perhaps a recipe building up to it
crisp tree
na
lilac saffron
Why would you need the atlas tree on pob
There will be a few sites with it regardless
Maybe even the official one
lilac saffron
Do you guys think there will be a boss for archnem? Perhaps a recipe building up...
I think so
Maybe the statue
rocky nebula
I think it'll be like Metamorph where there's no league boss because the expansion is the main focus
edgy pagoda
the main boss will be inventory management
honest ivy
wait i thought the atlas expansion bosses were the league bosses?
devout osprey
nop
the league is "archnemsis" seige of atlas is for the game, so even standard gets that on day 1
devout osprey
agree. still im looking forward to it in maps. gonna skip lots of it if not all in acts
lilac saffron
How many uniques are lower level than 4
Now that a lot got removed
Wont you be able to just get easy tabula
copper condor
NOICE
lilac saffron
Is tree today
slow coyote
Tree is nearby.
violet nymph
When they said this week
in the stream they said next week (so this week)
bex had said this week on reddit (last week). so i'd go for this week
lilac saffron
Is monday the start or the end of the week in new zealand
slow coyote
Yes
lilac saffron
Ty
slow coyote
They're upside down, so it runs backwards.
From their perspective, the Earth is spinning in reverse.
lilac saffron
I know some countries consider monday to be the 7th day
slow coyote
🤯
I've seen Sunday as the first day (Jewish calendar comes to mind). I've never seen Tuesday as the first day.
honest ivy
when do we see level 1 of the new gems?
violet nymph
when do we see level 1 of the new gems?
patch day
slow coyote
Not sure about the blessing gems... but I doubt you'll see the mark on hit support until at least level 24.
slow coyote
Earliest auras are level 10... but I guess a bit later on, since they're pretty niche supports.
You get most around 24 again, so probably from that point.
Although there's a decent chunk of supports from 38.
honest ivy
yeah i just hope it's not a high level cause it seems good for leveling
honest ivy
if it works like i think it does it might
it not needing to be linked to said attack
only mark
slow coyote
Yeah, it's when you hit, so it's not supporting the skill that hit.
honest ivy
i'm really glad about that cause skill like flicker now have more oppurtunities
slow coyote
The wording on hextouch is different:
Must support both a skill that hits enemies, and a hex curse skill to work. The hex will be applied when enemies are hit by the other skill
Flicker still isn't going to be viable for levelling... but I admire your optimism.
ocean narwhal
yo hold up
It is now possible to have multiple Blight Encounters in a single Area.
hell yeah
summer zinc
Do we know if Omniscience is just on the one unique or anywhere else?
violet nymph
Do we know if Omniscience is just on the one unique or anywhere else?
pretty sure it's boss unique
summer zinc
Fair enough but is the mechanic just on the one item?
ocean narwhal
as far as we know yes
dusk drift
can you use eldritch orbs on uniques?
eager terrace
nope
dusk drift
wallach i am literally watching your video right now lol, that's why i asked. I'm thinking of running your ballista totem build as a starter, would you trade any uniques out to capitalize on the new orbs?
next epoch
can you use eldritch orbs on uniques?
the only currency orbs which affect unique modifiers are divine orbs
eager terrace
oh neat haha
but it's hard to say without knowing what all modifiers are on the new orbs
also, a lot of the siege ballista uniques are pretty core and hard to drop
prisma epoch
The Blood Magic Keystone no longer has "Spend Life instead of Mana for effects of Skills" and it now has "10% more maximum Life does this mean blood magic no longer using 'blood' magic, and more like normal mana-spending magic?
eager terrace
no, it still makes mana costs and reservations go to life instead and removes all your mana
just that one line is removed, so you can’t spend life for certain effects of skills instead of mana
arcane cloak for example
rancid pumice
hey guys, I'm chatting with a friend and on hit curses came up. It's correct that on hit curse ring mods are getting removed right? Because of how curses are now meant to be permanent and only selfcast?
glad narwhal
The influence curse on hit mods are gone
rancid pumice
thought so, thanks
tawny pasture
The influence curse on hit mods are gone
isnt it only mark ?
vulne despair and other still here ?
glad narwhal
Yeah sorry mark only
tawny pasture
hey guys, I'm chatting with a friend and on hit curses came up. It's correct tha...
voila only mark are gone
rancid pumice
:jebaited:
clear tapir
hey guys, I think I have seen some kind of new unique jewel spotlighted, which can give you one of the ascendency passive of a specific class ?
do you see which jewel im refering to ?
cant find out the name
versed dock
Forbidden Flame & Forbidden Flesh?
clear tapir
oh yeah thats correct thx !
signal girder
So with the removal of lighthouse how hard do you guys think it will be to obtain red blade banner.
rocky nebula
They might move the redblade warbands to another map maybe?
tidal rampart
just a question about league start. When it's starts like time i know it's on friday 😄
slow coyote
The countdown on the site will tell you.
tidal rampart
Thanks
mighty musk
@signal girder You can still get it from delve but it will def not be as common as early. Gotta have a live search up and snipe it when possible if your build relies on it.
tawny pasture
there is also unique chest
gentle kayak
what do i have to do / what league to set up my stash tabs and create a new hideout for the Archnemesis HC SSF league?
devout osprey
for stash tabs set them up in HC SSF standard
dusk drift
for stash tabs set them up in HC SSF standard
if you do that in HC SSF standard you start the league with them set up that way?
what about SC Trade league?
tawny pasture
Sc trade is standard
dusk drift
so setting up my tabs there will transfer to league on start? I
tawny pasture
If you play on trade sc yeah
cunning tinsel
Can someone explain where to get all the "old" influenced mods like when we previously mixed two different conquerors? I have not understood this part
tawny pasture
what ?
cunning tinsel
I heard there was major changes to how getting "influenced" rolls on gear was working this league
tawny pasture
you missinterpreted
its gonna be harder to get influenced gear
get rolls is the same
cunning tinsel
Okay so they are just more rare now. Assuming Awakener orbs are still a thing? Probably even more rare?
rocky nebula
Well sirus is like shaper/elder now
You gotta beat all 4 conquerors to get to sirus. I can't remember if it was fragments or just an option from Kirac or something
violet nymph
You gotta beat all 4 conquerors to get to sirus. I can't remember if it was frag...
it's fragments
or rather maps for frags for sirus
wet harbor
I get the feeling that people will both complain that they don't get to use 4 items per area and that monsters with 4 items in them are too strong
lucid stone
Wait, so Soul Mantle doesn't do anything except give some totem life now?
livid apex
yeah it uh
seems to have been totally trash binned
idk why they had to ruin it honestly
rocky nebula
That one extra totem really insulted Chris' family and friends
livid apex
7L probably vaguely justifiable but I feel like for a fair few use cases you just go for some other damage support chest
shroud of the lightless, lioneye’s vision... another one slipping my mind
hollow sigil
Soul Mantle always felt bad, it's a common unique that requires much more rare uniques to be usable
So you have your BIS chest piece sitting in your inventory, taunting you for 100 hours before you finally get enough curse reduction to use it
livid apex
at least it can’t be as bad as bitterdream
next epoch
the unique so bad you have to vendor it twice
coral kiln
Hey, haven't played in a while so I'm completely off the grid with the meta. I've never done a melee build so thinking of doing one this league. Does anyone have idea of how far behind you'd be, say, with a cyclone slayer against the top tier meta builds? If I have ~2 weeks to grind (~55-65 hours), would it still make sense to just pick one of those early mappers (EA Totems, Poison Conc etc.) to build the economy and then level a new char from scratch for the end game? I've enjoyed most of the builds in the game so this is not about spending time with a build I hate just for the curreny. Rather, what would be my best bet to try and kill the major end game bosses within the 2 week period? Thank you!
proper widget
mappers get to drop all the loot and boss keys
you will easily clear at less than half the speed of dedicated mappers
but you could at least do your own bosses and maybe pivot into hard end game farms, idk if cyclone slayer can do sims for example
livid apex
my brain is being actually damaged by the boss kill event idk how to get it to stop
I know I have no chance because I like to stop and interact with things but it has set up a camp site in my brain and refuses to depart
slender temple
I know I have no chance because I like to stop and interact with things but it h...
easy solution. start in HCSSF right now and see how far you can get in 3 days
youll be cured
or motivated
livid apex
I just look at the people who hit like
97-98 in krangled gauntlet
there's a dozen of them
slender temple
those people deserve thjeir rewards.
livid apex
contrasting to 10 slots for at least div card
slender temple
doesnt matter how they got there. its not gonna be easy
livid apex
I just have objectively zero chance
I can't migrate my progress from HC to SC league counterpart right
I think SSF > non SSF is a thing but not HC > SC
gentle kayak
for stash tabs set them up in HC SSF standard
thx? do you know if it's same for hideout? I wanna take some time and make a new HO. My current one is junky and random
slender temple
thx? do you know if it's same for hideout? I wanna take some time and make a new...
your hide out will bee persistent however the map device might get krangeld when you finish act 10
so export it
then import it back in after you do the stuff with kirac (or whatever it is after we beat a10)
gentle kayak
your hide out will bee persistent however the map device might get krangeld when...
right. they always try to give me the big map device :(.
Ok so I can make one and then export it. That's new since I've tweaked the H/O. Thanks.
slender temple
right. they always try to give me the big map device :(.
Ok so I can make one...
yeah mann ive been twaeking my hide out every league for a long time
livid pecan
did 3.17 change RF at all or no
sick glacier
nothing really changed for RF. only big change people are talking about is maven boots being better for it now. no gems changed. new eldritch implicits will prob have some good mods though
warm knoll
Hyped
I'm not sure what to play, I don't wanna play EA again, it hurts my soul
Any good other option for bow as starter ?
slender temple
how did that even happen
Years ago there was database corruption so weird items were made
unreal plinth
do we know how the ascendant will work with the new jewels from the new pinnacle bosses?
slow coyote
No
stuck sapphire
https://i.imgur.com/qrAdBFe.png
birb shield
gentle kayak
do we know how the ascendant will work with the new jewels from the new pinnacle...
didnt chris say they'll have to make up new things that they do? interested to see what those are
livid apex
500 iq:
you count as a duelist if you have a scion duelist ascendancy
gentle kayak
I think he said the effects of those jewels though will do something other than what the current Ascendant passives do.
dusky kernel
i think that level 45 multistrike is still around in standard
there were a bunch of wild gems made during the vaaling of the database
my fave was the -25 max spectre boots
that allowed infinite spectres
125% duration flask
the biggest thicciest queens decree ever
dusky kernel
this really OP BoR
slender temple
do tehse items still exist and work?
livid apex
most don't
slender temple
wtf is that mod "area has same layout for all players"
did poe used to haveo different layouts for diff players in muiltiplayer???!?!
livid apex
still does
that's for things like races
so different zone generation rng doesn't affect outcomes
slender temple
i doubt it works cuz some of those mods wouldn't be checked if they are on an item id imagine
dusky kernel
that is some wild assumptions there
warm sentinel
Want to play totem hierophant this league. Would you guys recommend arc or freezing pulse?
dusky kernel
either is good since buffs
freezing if you want a little more defensive with shatters
livid apex
keep in mind that fpulse lost its +projectile threshold jewels
warm sentinel
Might try freezing then cause i suck at the game 😄
dusky kernel
ah yes that is a problem
livid apex
fpulse is still maybe usable but arc is smoother most likely
warm sentinel
Cool, thx for the tip.
versed dock
Are we getting full Atlas tree information before release on friday or not? Have missed the classic "overview for this weeks information/teasers" schedule 😄
ashen panther
Are we getting full Atlas tree information before release on friday or not? Have...
My impression is that they bit off more than they could chew and swallow for 3.17, and right now, the dev team is desperately fighting with the changes to make sure the PR team doesn't get choked for anything.
full saddle
Did they nerf maps to compensate for the new tree or is this just going to juice everything?
warm compass
Can you respect the map tree? Have they mentionned anything about this?
light adder
orb of unmaking, core drop now, kirac also sells unlimited amount (think was two regret for one)
indigo wolf
Kirac sells them? Was that in the reddit thread somewhere?
light adder
warm compass
Awesome thank you very much!
teal token
League ends today, right? Are there races for the next week? Or any events? Not sure where to look.
next epoch
League has ended. Archnemesis starts in a few days
rocky nebula
xd
north dragon
play stnadard
slim minnow
Wait so are there no changes to passive tree or are we still waiting on those?
slender temple
Wait so are there no changes to passive tree or are we still waiting on those?
onyl slight changes
slim minnow
Oh word, so I can start planning and be mostly fine
slender temple
yeah for sure
it was all buffs really
they only nerfed soem exploits
and some triggered stuff was softened a bit
slender temple
It shouldnt be much if you use steam
glad furnace
? i thought steam update was usually bigger than standalone
also define not much my internet is very poor and the last expansion update was like a 16 gig update
austere whale
where can I see the masteries of the atlas tree?
rocky nebula
where can I see the masteries of the atlas tree?
there's notables and there are small passives, that's it
fiery cloak
do we know if you can put influence implicits on jewels?
devout osprey
most likely not, but idk for sure
distant harness
Nah it’s only head gloves boots chest
fiery cloak
Nah it’s only head gloves boots chest
huh
not even weapons?
distant harness
I don’t believe so
fiery cloak
soo
old influence is still really relevant on weps/shields?
distant harness
And jewelry yea
haughty oracle
do we know what currency is used to respec atlas tree ?
tender belfry
do we know how we get atlas sphere grid points yet?
tender belfry
oh very cool, thank you!
violet nymph
do we know how we get atlas sphere grid points yet?
117 from atlas bonus completions
11 from maven
4 from New bosses
tender belfry
Not very much from the new bosses. That's good, I've tried Sirus for the past three leagues and still haven't managed him 😅 Thanks for the detailed breakdown!
wintry apex
Does this mean that influenced amulets and shields have actually stuff entirely excluded from them if you try to roll them naturally, without the use of a conqueror's exalted orb?
livid apex
I suspect that this simply means that they're no longer part of the influenced modifier pool, but given the specificity I can't state that for certain
mellow beacon
I mean, it seems like they can't.
You'd only need the part before 'and' to communicate that they're in the core modifier pool.
signal bobcat
On release is there generally a queue to log in? If so does it start at launch time or is there any “pre-queue” system? This is my first league launch
devout osprey
yes we pre-queue before it starts. it opens an hour? before league actually starts
silver kettle
queue opening time is pretty variable, depends on how the deploy goes
dusky kernel
I mean, it seems like they can't.
they are in general pool no? Wouldnt that mean rolling them is still possible on influenced items
slow coyote
queue opening time is pretty variable, depends on how the deploy goes
What kind of crazy people deploy on a Friday? 🤯
silver kettle
What kind of crazy people deploy on a Friday? 🤯
it's actually saturday morning for us!
dusty umbra
As usual )
slow coyote
it's actually saturday morning for us!
Oh, my. You have my condolences.
whole girder
Wait nevermind, 8 am
slow coyote
Thanks for giving up a Saturday for us neckbeards.
whole girder
Even still oof
violet nymph
skeleton mages vs trap in 3.17 for bossing?
tawny pasture
skeleton mages vs trap in 3.17 for bossing?
check #1┃endgame-help
silver kettle
ikr
silver kettle
I have my build planned, my atlas tree planned, nothing to do but twiddle thumbs until league start
slender temple
but have you planned your chall rewards [0[12][24][36][40]. i know its a straighit line but still
violet nymph
make chris go to sleep and then when he wakes up trick him into thinking he slept 2 days
silver kettle
player me just has to trust that designer me didn't make the challenges too hard 👍
slender temple
i got screenshots of my atlas tree progression from start to end and my build stages from start to end for easy reference
well scourge challenges were just right imho
expedition was actually good too
i wanna know what the rewards are but i guess ill find out in a few days at worst? :p
silver kettle
sounds like you'll probably find out very soon
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/si9jnx/the_full_atlas_passive_tree_from_siege_of_the/hv7hi25/?context=3
violet nymph
rewards are prolly the spoiler for today if i had to guess
slender temple
nice
maybe? we'll see
last year we got a ritual hide out for 36 chall no story spoiled there
violet nymph
i hope they are good. gotta say the reward i always wished i got was synthesis wings. i wasnt good enough at the game at the time to get it tho.
the crown is still one of my fave helm attachments tho
rocky nebula
Does this mean that influenced amulets and shields have actually stuff entirely ...
It's just a nerf/buff to deterministic crafting since conqueror items are harder to get now
slender temple
player me just has to trust that designer me didn't make the challenges too hard...
ill save the complaining fro when trialmaster is back and we have to find him 300 times for EGG
😄
silver kettle
slender temple
im sad to see scourge go. the mechanic was genuinely fun. i dont care about the actual scourging of items. i just like the alternate scourge mode in maps
violet nymph
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do you know if the rare mods from this league are planned to go core on regular rares or something if they do good. sorta seems like thats one of the reasons for the league. test new mods to revamp and replace old ones for poe 2 or something
any talk about that in office
violet nymph
what you mean about new mod ?
the mods on rares frm the league
tawny pasture
its not part of the league
silver kettle
I can't comment on any plans for upcoming content that aren't already public knowledge, sorry
violet nymph
no not new implicits the new monster mods
tawny pasture
oh like chaos res ?
violet nymph
I can't comment on any plans for upcoming content that aren't already public kno...
fair nuff, im going to take this as head cannon meaning this is a test and the office is just keeping it low for now.
violet nymph
oh like chaos res ?
like the 35 new monster mods for the league content
harsh bone
Viper show us the best secret atlas tree that you planned
silver kettle
I can't give strategy advice either 😄
violet nymph
can you give us new spectres?
silver kettle
maybe
timid geyser
Viper show us the best secret atlas tree that you planned
pope 
#1┃general message
tawny pasture
viper can say he gonna play glacial hammer in Hard mod , that a huge hint
craggy wadi
what about a new fishing rod
livid apex
It's interesting that the pinnacle boss stuff on the tree doesn't feel core to reaching those bosses
slender temple
well it does have ways to reach them faster if you hit the reltaed nodes
livid apex
the best you get is 10% more progression rate, approximately
(10% chance to double progress from a given map)
violet nymph
no it sprobably from expansion content
true
livid apex
which isn't useless for sure, but is also not "I'm never going to see them if I don't go there"
violet nymph
i cant decide if map blasting will be worth it this league in comparison to things like blight or bossing. the atlas really changes things
and fated uniques dropping from map bosses will be interesting i think
plain zodiac
What do you think of the rewards?
tawny pasture
nice
tawny pasture
12/24/32/34/36/38
devout osprey
arent they always eagles?
devout osprey
never seen a 40 outside challenge trailers
solemn glade
wooooooooo that Claw MTX is all i want
devout osprey
this is scourge
tawny pasture
wooooooooo that Claw MTX is all i want
well you unlock all of the wapon at 24
devout osprey
looks like type of bird changes
slender temple
no
they are all the same
i have 7 of them
i can load game if you wanna inspect them 😛
devout osprey
they are all the same
@tawny pasture liar
slender temple
actually now im curiosu
devout osprey
alright 2s
valid sandal
38/40 is gonna suck balls with all the other stuff releasing around this time
fierce geyser
What's the go to starter this league, fam?
valid sandal
sunder
devout osprey
still looking for 40/40 harbies
slender temple
thats teh same bird
its the perspective
you cannot get that perspective in game
floral talon
Fashion of Exiles
rocky nebula
damn, the challenge rewards for this league are actually worth getting
lucid token
im fuckign wet
holy shit
those wings
thsoe character effect
the fuckign weapon
its actualy so good?
holy
sly tusk
the wings look very kitiva-ish, its weird that they're for archnemisis
verbal steppe
What is with the wings, though? They look clunky.
Idk what it is, they just seem off.
sly tusk
looks like you just strapped kitiva to your back, lol
verbal steppe
Wish I could skip a challenge reward in favor of getting points towards the one I actually want, which is 38.
lucid token
i want all
verbal steppe
That would be a neat system.
rocky nebula
I just want the weapons tbh
rocky nebula
what do you mean?
floral talon
im fuckign wet
Where’s da only fans
green quiver
Those weapon skins look quite nice
eager terrace
hey viper can you talk about the patch note for ice spear if you get a sec
silver kettle
I probably shouldn't
devout osprey
if you aim close to character you get big spread. that is no more the case (if i understood correctly)
brave marsh
the weapon skins don't look THAT good, but they're better than 90% of what original wepon models look like
eager terrace
even though it's in the notes?
stray mortar
So did seismic trap/exsanguinate got nerfed ?
tawny pasture
yeah
austere folio
Do you think this league will be busted like harvest was? The passive atlas tree is amazing
tawny pasture
it wont
tawny pasture
i could put my hand to fire
austere folio
Haha saggy I believe you
tawny pasture
harvest was way to abusive
everyone and their mother had an HH just like in ritual
austere folio
Just like other perspectives to see it from an angle maybe we don’t
Yeah I had HH so you’re right it was everywhere
magic jackal
Anyone got any feedback on this? I'm thinking full on Einhar to essentially have a hireling on basically every map and blight because I love playing the maps: https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-atlas-skill-tree/AAAABgAAVwB5Ax8EmAaTCdwKQAq-C3EOsw9jFHcVwCJrK4Yruiz8LwQvbjNJM-Q-wUBtQYxCE0XhR89WRVckWcxaNGK4ZWtpHmzMbP10-nVDd7V5N3meecN69Hr9ewp8xX_cgmmFxIaYh-mJkY8dj9SU4Zk4nTidsaHRot6kSqXYqPSqua7qtIa1Ebb4vNzFVshgyh_LK8z5zoPRJNZb2a3gFu1Z7aDxS_Wo90_62vzO_Ob9HQAA
slender temple
Anyone got any feedback on this? I'm thinking full on Einhar to essentially have...
you have to understand that you dont have einhar from entering the map. you gotta find a beast and get its health down first
austere folio
Aren’t you missing some good center nodes for +1 to dropped tiers and general drop chances for maps
slender temple
so while its a good plan there is that one problem
magic jackal
Aren’t you missing some good center nodes for +1 to dropped tiers and general dr...
Yeah, a lot of my friends are just going full on central town for quant and crap
magic jackal
you have to understand that you dont have einhar from entering the map. you gott...
I dont mind that AS much but it's a good point
obsidian marlin
i think some of the mapping will be a noob trap
just make a bosser
do bosses, uber izaro etc
slender temple
giga izaro also good if you can do it without dying
proper widget
what pairs well with abyss in maps? im thinking ghosts but idk if thats consistent
also not that many ghost nodes it seems
im guessing abyss jewels dont drop from strongboxes or anything like that
eager terrace
beyond maybe
proper widget
oh its a reward type for other stuff, maybe metamorphs then
eager terrace
there's what 130-160% inc monsters in abyss nodes
slender temple
ghosts go well with exiles it seems
proper widget
yea it seems pretty funny lol
20 exiles and ghosts everywhere
ghosts dont seem that good since its mostly applying to existing rares
abyss mobs spawn after... i was hoping to get abyss monster ghosted and have like 100% more quant
abyss + meta + ... beyond could be good? harby nodes are nearby but they dont synergize i think
eager terrace
my plan honestly is to synergise against FFB
so in that sense harby isn't a bad idea
the 10 pack size node for FFB is really stupid
worthy bloom
Guys, any good caster build for archnemesis? I'd love arc or stormbrand
graceful shore
Hope new uniq bow are chase item like 2k dps bow heh
lean heath
@worthy bloom you can go spark like that mad man over there
Maybe he’s in a different channel
dusk drift
wallach are you going back to FP totems this league?
lilac saffron
Do you think this league will be busted like harvest was? The passive atlas tree...
In a different way
I think in this league maps will be broken
But char progression wont change as much
dusky kernel
depending on your atlas the progression in maps will be very different i think
for instances if you take the early einhar nodes, you can get the 3% spell leech from him being 100% in maps
im personally taking a bunch of shrine effects so I can do harder maps earlier
lilac saffron
Yeah I mean the gear progression
dusky kernel
we have to see the mods i think
lilac saffron
Sure the new atlas will make maps harder/easier depending on what you pick
dusky kernel
there could be something early on that opens it up
lilac saffron
Sure
dusky kernel
sadly wont know until 2nd character
and there isnt a 2nd character for most people
lol
violet nymph
dang he is prolly right
we have another uncharted realms tree
shows up after many maps are completed
doesnt show at 0
slender temple
neat?
eager terrace
hmm it could also just be they changed the UI
like the button is greyed out
so instead of using one button they changed it late in and made swapping back and forth between two buttons
like I won’t say no to more stuff but I’m not sure what would be on this second tree
violet nymph
there is a part where that button turns green like for skill point allocation
and the second button doesnt appear till after compleation by the looks of it
violet nymph
there is no influence anymore
lilac saffron
As you can see when the button shows the influence is "up"
I mean exarch and eater
violet nymph
i know but that shows on your map device
lilac saffron
Yeah
violet nymph
not your atlus and why would it glow
it glows like skill points that are unallocated
violet nymph
we will find out in a day or so
high scaffold
hopium that is a second tree template so we can switch between the 2 
i would love to have 2 trees so that i can flip flop when doing either boss
slender temple
i would love to have 2 trees so that i can flip flop when doing either boss
hopium
midnight phoenix
man i almost dont care what infernal cry does
all these melee ignite builds are so fucking cooked
ur like wow i get to do 1/4 of the damage i did in 3.14 before seismic cry got removed from the game
maybe i gotta huff the copium and try to get enough attack speed that IB ignite is playable
im pretty sure thats impossible but a man can dream
ebon dove
Yeah it likely won't be that great
The infernal cry jewel will likely only barely offset the 28% player ignite nerf
lilac saffron
Melee ignite was a meme and will be meme
Even 100% more ignite damage on infernal wouldnt save it
ebon bear
What builds are everyone playing when league starts? Any recommend guides?
honest egret
i did not catch this info, will you be able to add implicits to uniqes with those new things ?
lilac saffron
No
high scaffold
also new implicit only work on boots, helmet, gloves and body armour
faint violet
young vector
violet nymph
guys its fking insane
im getting goose bumps just thinking about scamming harvest crafts
insane excitement, missed it so much
slender temple
O_O
viral cargo
At what time does 3.17 get released tomorrow? UTC+1 here
violet nymph
9 PM, cool. for the first time Eastern EU players arent fked
dusty umbra
9 PM, cool. for the first time Eastern EU players arent fked
it's always like this 9-11pm depending on daylight savings
tawny pasture
? its always the same time +- 1 hour
dusty umbra
im in east eu m8 so you don't have to tell me
violet nymph
you're saying its always like this, im saying its not
dusty umbra
And i'm saying time is exactly same pretty much every time and only change is daylight savings
lean heath
Since the last 4 leagues, the league launch has always been at 1am for me
I don’t think it has changed tbh
violet nymph
you're saying its always like this, im saying its not
lag?
Pretty sure it's been the same time every league since I started
Which was betrayal
verbal steppe
I like that’s it’s 11am for me, but I can’t play until 5pm. Pain.
wary vortex
sweet!!! didnt know i could play at noon mountain time tommorrow thought it was 5 pm for me lol cant wait lunch tommorrow its on!!!
modest fossil
2PM for eastern people c:
slow coyote
It's almost like there's a record of league start and end times: https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/League
Look at all of those 8pm launches.
One 7pm in there.
violet nymph
ok so the clock will have to change tomorrow then
it cant be the same
I mean just accept you are wrong when everything points to you being wrong
90% of league starts are 10-11 PM
this one would be 9 PM if nothing changes
get rekt
dusty umbra
The above just confirmed what i said though?
90% of launches are exact same time (10-11pm)
And only thing that dicates whether it's 10/11 is the daylight savings
violet nymph
ok so that means the clock has to change tomorrow
tawny pasture
marsala is a known troll on the server dont worry
violet nymph
marsala is a known troll on the server dont worry
said a butthurt kid who cant accept it when someone tells him he is wrong
tawny pasture
what ?
timber crown
I love it when leauge starts at 8 pm here <3
slow coyote
When does it not?
azure marsh
Its 3 am for me 🐒
austere folio
So 24 h 54 m from now
tawny pasture
Its 3 am for me 🐒
so you wake up at 2 am , take a good break fast and a shower
farm until 20h
restart at 6 am next day
azure marsh
Id die with that schedule
slow coyote
That sounds so inefficient. Caffeine tablets ftw.
Or just mainline some speed.
||Please don't||
wary vortex
ill be playing at lunch time 🙂
slow coyote
Then you won't need as much caffeine as some of us.
lilac saffron
I wonder how Im not addicted to coffee/caffeine
Probably its because I do nothing all day so I dont need it
violet nymph
you guys have caffeine?
past badger
indeed
amber temple
I love it when leauge starts at 8 pm here <3
For me its at 3pm, I am in the middle of work 😩
pulsar juniper
violet nymph
i have only ever played witch and templar, i might try something else.