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[queen blaze]

Now I did

So I should go to half health (without molten shell)

[candid cairn]

[wintry otter]

No, if maximum hit taken says 9962, then you taking 9k phys damage should leave you with single digit life. Armor works weird in the game, the bigger the hit, the less percentage it mitigates

If you switch off all your guard skills, basically turn everything off that gives you any mitigation, then it should be roughly correct in what's your max physical hit taken

[mellow beacon]

How the frick is the 'take physical damage >9000' still not fixed? How many builds can survive it? :'3

Just bought a 15000 one and got one shot, because of course I did, who the heck has more then 15K life or ES? :'3

[pastel mauve]

I mean, 9000 isn't that bad with 75% reduct, as long as it isn't per second

[mellow beacon]

The thing is you can't reduce the damage.

Armor doesn't work for it.

Not even sure if the % phys reduction does, like the one you get from end charges.

But even if it's still not enough for the 21K. :'3

[pastel mauve]

Pretty sure armour does work, since my friend had one that did 6k phys damage, and i surivived that with 5.5k ES

[mellow beacon]

No, no it doesn't.

I had 20k armor and died from 6K.

When I had like 4.5K eHP.

Unless it works like armor usually works.

[pastel mauve]

So, my bad, looked back at the image, apparently it was lightning

[mellow beacon]

But then it still wouldn't do anything with like 15K.

Because armour is pretty shit against big hits.

Yeah I can take 21K lightning but I can't take 6K phys, it's just stupid.

[timid geyser]

#trading

[modest tide]

Don't u guys love when u press v in a scourged map and insta dead

[tawny pasture]

read the scourge map and check if you can do it

[empty hawk]

I just double corrupted anomalous ice spear and it turned 19/11
QQQQQQQQQQQQ

feel bad for me

[sullen ravine]

https://i.imgur.com/Ap3ofO5.png what items i need to crangle to get those mods?

[green basin]

you forgot to rub it

you have to trace three circles around the gem with the corrupt icon while praising satan to get 21/23

[violet nymph]

Reservation is body and glove

[crisp moth]

Anyone could help with 10maven?

[mellow beacon]

Can sockets on a split item be modified?

[indigo wolf]

Amulet is reservation, body is keystone, gloves are curse.

[crisp tree]

yes

[dense summit]

So.... mines on the ground don't shift with you to krangleverse? Or is it the stun AOE destroying my own mines?

[tawny pasture]

They dont follow

[latent spruce]

i am fucking pissed right now. First time doing Merciless Lab, entering the last trial i crashed. GGG Fix your performance/crashes!

[tawny pasture]

[ruby sentinel]

Hey guys, just out of curiosity. I couldn't find this anywhere, but does anyone know the best map in the game right now for raw scourge stacks?

[eager terrace]

I’ve heard UGS tossed around

[cold horizon]

UGS and Tower

[mellow beacon]

What's the easiest invitation that you can get uncharted realms from?

[indigo wolf]

Shaper/elder guardians (formed, twisted)

[copper karma]

Anyone think the massive crap rolled scourge krangle's are going to get fixed? I mean -60% global defense for +30 life is extremely shit.

[violet nymph]

^

They've already fixed/altered the drawbacks once

[rugged condor]

20k armour 10k ehp and oneshuted from 15k phy is it bug?

[eager terrace]

nah 20k armor won't do much against 15,000 phys dmg hit

rule of thumb, take the phys hit and multiply it by 5

it takes that much armor to cut the dmg by 50%

[white badge]

what items have you guys been krangling this league?

[wintry otter]

Fully linked uniques and gear improvements

And hope they dont brick 🤣

[eager terrace]

windrippers

[runic zephyr]

thats a new low of "worst T3 unique dropped from scourge boss" lmfao

[carmine canopy]

Not really

CI doesn't care about either of the downsides so if the item itself isn't garbo

[runic zephyr]

actually for CI i guess lol

biscos leash, doubt any CI build runs that xd

[carmine canopy]

I don't know shit about CI builds

[white badge]

that'sa good idea, six socketed?

[slender temple]

hah im missing the same ones forever

[sullen ravine]

Got it just yesterday. ele weakness on sadimas 🙂

[slender temple]

grats

[rocky hound]

What build would people recommend for a returning player this league? Looking for something that will get me started farming maps decently quickly with ssf gear

I heard that this league changed a bunch of things, so not sure if my previous league starters are still viable

[wet plaza]

ssf gear or real ssf league?

[rose pasture]

Its hardmode now.

Many of those good starting builds are remained in 3.13

Whats still afloat are tr, s.traps, skellies, and.. thats it?

[rocky hound]

Just ssf gear, as I won’t have currency to buy decent things

[eager terrace]

doesn’t really matter due to tainted currency

[near meteor]

Does sm1 play berserker consecrated path

[cursive fulcrum]

is there a boss in every map for scourge?

[tranquil fern]

no

but you can see if there's a boss on your map. lightning storm while in scourge has that slender bow lady, those purple blobs that explode indicate the fatty with the tongue grab is in, and a rather subtle rain of fire indicated the boss that's the 36 challenge reward

[rugged agate]

corrupting fever kinetic is pretty cheap and u can scale it later changing to tornado shot

[rocky hound]

What class works best? Gladiator?

[pulsar juniper]

Grimro has a decent progression guide on a YT vid, and an excel doc.

[rocky hound]

Awesome thanks!

[toxic parcel]

When I map underground sea T13, died many times just one shot by "savage chaos guandian", almost died very time met these monster. I am playing general cry blade flurry with 3800 hp, 30K armar, purity of elemental, with berserk up. I can kill sirus with one portal. But failed T13 undergrand sea with 6 portal just because of this monster. what skill this monster is using? I try to good it, but I cannot find it.

[patent zinc]

is your chaos resist horrible?

[crisp tree]

get more life

[oak zinc]

LF Pale Angel if any one gots it pm me

[humble sonnet]

just me or cant enter map w/o dcing eacvh time?

[real elm]

anyone leveling new character?

[austere whale]

why is the shaper guardian invitation so much more expensive than the others?

[dense ruin]

It's not

You're looking at Uber elder prob

[tranquil fern]

no the formed and the twisted invitations are pretty expensive comparable thats true

im honestly not sure why either tho, might be a supply demand thing

[versed marlin]

They're the most accessable to the masses, lowest requirements and cost to complete the witnesses compared to the other 3

[indigo wolf]

shaper guardian fragments are worth more than elder guardian fragments

Because elder guardians fragments are more common from doing them during normal map progress (conq tracks) and not maps "off the atlas"

[tranquil fern]

we're not talking about the fragments, but the maven invitations

[indigo wolf]

Right. The Formed drops shaper guardian fragments

So the Formed is worth more because shaper fragments are worth more

[split shale]

So I see a lot of guys farming the tower with MF gear, are there any other decent farms that a guy can go after?

I can only really do T10s-T12s reliably, and I can't afford to get the MF gear and swap builds

[tawny pasture]

you can farm tower without mf

[split shale]

Aren't the returns a joke without quant and a good atlas setup?

[tawny pasture]

return is the same as any other low tier map

i mean like any map if you want good profit you need to invest

[split shale]

Fair

[dense summit]

Life per second loss on krangled maps is instadeath with CI I assume?

[tranquil fern]

yup

[quartz girder]

Grinding the blood crucible, even though it was cancer, the pain is over. Honestly, it was a good league.

[empty hawk]

40 40 congrats!

That's dedication lol

[thorny trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/804511873528627200/912569359162048512/unknown.png do I keep scourging for a life roll?

[violet nymph]

Legit af, 88 chaos res

[bronze tide]

does MF item rarity support gem on death oath count if it kill with profane bloom?

[rain nova]

wtf game 🙄

[rich hare]

I hate this league mechanic ... 😦

while in nightmare in normal map, walk into a room BOOM dead.. no indication of what hit me.. it doesn't even look like any graphical effect hit at all... 1019 ES, 4837 life, 19k armor, 75% block. just.. dead

twice in two maps T13

[tired condor]

Spell Suppression is your friend if you can get it

[proper widget]

theres some insane explody mob that gets me all the time

if u aggro it and walk near it just explodes for 10k damage

have to kill everything cannot even try dashing past it

[copper karma]

Is there any other decent defensive option I can get for pure evasion builds? I'm evasion/suppression capped but the one hit that does get through kills me everytime 😦

Using an armor flask to so like 25% phys reduction.

[blissful onyx]

Max block

[rich hare]

Yea, I have that on my Toxic Rain champ, but his one im playing now is skelly mage necro

[copper karma]

Is petrifying blood useful for evasion builds or is it only if you have 6K+ life

[blissful onyx]

Not sure what evasion has to do with life pool

But you probably want around 5500 or more life even when using petrified blood

[cunning blade]

it reduces ur ehp vs 1 shots and dots

but increases overall ehp vs hits if u can survive the hits

ur still screwed vs dots tho

[heady finch]

pet blood sounds good in theory, in practice degen kills me often before i have a chance to react

[hollow atlas]

Either you accept that you're gonna get clapped once in while as pure evasion or you mix in something else

[hollow atlas]

Ghost shroud maybe?

I meant as a way to solve your one shot issue, unrelated to petrified blood

[rotund surge]

Do you have aliment immunity? I run Purity of Elements for aliment immunity. You can skill that you get armour based on your evasion rating + flasks I get to~~ ~75%~~ 61% phys reduction. Then you should aim for 100% spell suppression on top of using Grace.

Btw somebody knows why there are so little people playing Wild Strike?

[tawny pasture]

cuz its not in a good shape

[rotund surge]

whats so bad about it?

[haughty oracle]

whats a good tier for maps to juice up to tier 10 when im still struggling with yellow maps, tier 2 ?

[dense ruin]

haunted mansion is nice

more importantly

make sure you roll good mods

ie scourged items, enchanted items, basic currency are a no go

so if you roll them t1/2 just switch to a new map

on the other hand

don't continue scourging if you get painful mods early

which change depending on your build but main one is take physical damage on switch

[haughty oracle]

does phys damage on switch get reduced by anything ?

[blissful onyx]

Armor and other physical reduction

As well as “physical damage taken as X” mods

[dense ruin]

keep in mind the pdr on the character sheet is incorrect

as armour is based off the hit

so if a hit is 10k, you'll need about 50k armour to reduce that by 50%

[haughty oracle]

yeah i had a tier 4 map that gave me 6000 phys damage when i shift in or out nightmare and despite my 56% damage reduction it killed me with 4200hp xD

[runic zephyr]

can scourge bosses drop anything interesting besides scourged uniques and tainted currency?

usually every league has league specific uniques? but i killed like 10 scourge bosses so far and only garbage

[versed marlin]

Just a double scourged unique, the tainted currencies and the 1 time quest item for your 3rd crucible slot

[violet nymph]

Anything on the standard unique loot table too, not that it matters

[sonic cove]

does The Saviour have any use this league?

[indigo wolf]

Doesn't look like it. .7% rep and of that 70% are steel skills

Maybe it is used in a low-representation build, though

[violet nymph]

There's a reflection build around with it as an offhand, duelist.

That's about it

[sonic cove]

Understandable

It used to be awesome. Included in a ton of builds. What changed?

[indigo wolf]

the meta ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crisp tree]

nerfs

[violet nymph]

The meta and nerfs

[neon tiger]

Hey boys, Quick question anyone running scourge on Pc that could help me on a simulacrum wave 26+? I can kinda live through the boss but i just dont do enough damage to him

[barren crescent]

Mainly that the skill is all over the place, hard to find sources of scaling that applies to all of the 3 elements

[rotund surge]

but don't you block 2 of the 3 elements?

same as elemental hit

[cunning blade]

its melee too

[timid geyser]

Problem is why play wildstrike when lightning strike exists.

[half hull]

Anyone knows wtf does that jugg play to be at depths 3800??? It is a strike build, but how can he be almost 2k ahead of party groups???

[slender temple]

He probably figured out some new immortal build

[proper widget]

molten strike howa bro

[torn sable]

ooohhh

molten strike is still thing...

[violet nymph]

are people really selling tabula rasas for 1c?

or do they just place the price and never message bakc

[wet plaza]

very unlikely considering you can get a divine for one

[haughty oracle]

whats a base map tier for less powerful chars to start corrupting to tier 10 ?

[versed marlin]

The tier doesn't matter if you're selective about which rewards you continue to scourge until 10. If you avoid maps, enchanted items etc that are always bad returns on low tiers then you can scourge whatever tier you want to 10 provided your character can run it. It's more about the layout and the number of rares you can get than the map tier for returns

[limpid dew]

now what...

in SSF nonetheless

[slender temple]

keep it in your ssf museum

[limpid dew]

thats the plan, converting over would make my farming for uniques and Nurse cards feel pointless

i also managed to make these juicy alberons the other day

seven league warpath

[mortal yarrow]

faust buy me 700dps foil

[red robin]

Oh my god I got 2 blessed orb and then skip

[mortal yarrow]

reroll

[long salmon]

Should you enter the nightmare early on or just wait until you are closer to end game?

[glossy ocean]

I found it was good for finding leveling stuff but don't rely on it too much

[west haven]

who can do this? take 9000 phys dmg on flip

[vast gazelle]

It’s not bad for armour users

Only need 45k armour to reduce it to 900

[storm crown]

someone with high amounr of armour / phy reduction with a guard skill up

[storm crown]

5xarmour is 50% reduction

[vast gazelle]

Oh

Huh

[storm crown]

but add some other phy reduction from like charges phy reduction mod on chest etc. 5x might be enought ;:D

[vast gazelle]

I hate this auto correct

True

[storm crown]

XD

if you have 5 charges and 10% phy reduction mod you have 80% phy red against 9k damage

8% additional Physical Damage Reduction exists on armour based body armours now so, thats big

[rose pasture]

Activate molten shell and press v?

[brave cave]

UwU

krangled maps are nice

and thats not even good

should I sell them or use them myself?

[tawny pasture]

use

[dense ruin]

Um, that's now how armour works my guy

Armour is based off the hit

45k armour on a 9k hit is about 50% reduction

So you'd take 4.5k~

Ohp, nvm, it's been answered alrdy, mb

[vast gazelle]

i wasnt aware lol

[violet nymph]

ur banned

[violet nymph]

Do scourged items xp gain scale with monster level?

[steel rock]

hi all, i am an ex poe player looking to get back into the game, i have around 3k hrs and would love to make friends and chat with knowledgeable players about the what has changed and the current meta. I stopped playing right after 3.0 came out i played the beta and the league that came with the release (forgot name) // pls add me so we can chat and play together maybe!

[patent ridge]

Use toxic rain same as old

[dense thistle]

Hey guys, does the lapidary lens work for the 21 gem level challenge or is it bugged?

[tawny pasture]

shouldnt work

[charred ivy]

Deadeye or occultist for an int stacker

[crude quail]

my day today

[dense ruin]

Sheesh how many logs did u run

[crude quail]

@dense ruin not manny. Had arround 150 reroll i just got lucky

[dense ruin]

Dam

[verbal steppe]

Gewnnen gave you the belt while you were running spiders. takes notes mmm, mmm.

[flat panther]

more mageblood in game, good good

[violet nymph]

Aren't the 4 utility slot ones like.... 350 exalts to 2 mirrors?

[tranquil fern]

all uncorrupted ones are around that

cuz you can divine it

[vast gazelle]

yea i feel like if you can afford mageblood you can afford an uncorrupted one and divine it yourself

[fossil flint]

what's meta atm o.o

wnna get back into the game T_T

[lilac saffron]

There are a lot of good builds this league

[sonic glen]

does the scourge map mod "lose 900 life per second in nightmare" instagib CI builds?

[lilac saffron]

Yes

[glossy talon]

imagine youre playin with some "friends" in HC

pal opens up what you believe is just a normal map

he goes in, you go in a few seconds later with your extremely tanky ES-based character

before you realize what's going on, V is pressed

you are no more

[lilac saffron]

Meanwhile Chris is looking at you laughing

[pastel mauve]

Would be neat if they would've made that mod work like chaos damage does when you have a shav

If you have either shav or CI

(well, something that has the chaos does not bypass ES mod, not specifically shav)

[main epoch]

Is the only way to survive t14+ scourge with 300 stacks to kill everything before it displays on screen? There have been several times (although a bit rare) where I die in 1 hit to something I can't even see, and I just don't know what I am doing wrong. I feel like my defenses are okayish (I could use more block/spell suppress), but getting 1-shot still seems pretty common, and I don't even know what I am specifically dying to start fixing it.

[tawny pasture]

dood

its 300 stack

nothing more to say

[main epoch]

Are you saying that 300 stack is not supposed to be survived?

[tawny pasture]

can be survive but expect 1 shot

300 more dmg is not a joke

[main epoch]

So when trying to actually level up, what do people stop at? Do they just not enter the kranglezone?

[tawny pasture]

lot of people skip krangle to be able to lvl up

or just reach 150-200

if you can handle it

[wet plaza]

go cold dmg for freeze and yeah stop at 150-200

[main epoch]

Yeah I mean I am currently 97 and have yet to stop krangling carelessly, but the exp rate is low enough now that my deaths make progress a bit of a standstill. Well 🤣 I'm playing lightning dmg.

I spent a lot of the league trying to make a tanky character, but ended up with around 10,000 ES, CI, 80% all res, 10k (low ik) armor, 600 ES regen, shock immune, freeze immune, stun immune, corrupt/bleed immune, 32% block (es on block) 😐 for some reason I thought I wouldn't get 1-shot anymore. I just don't know what I am dying to in the scourge that keeps hitting me without me ever seeing what it was. I would just dodge it if I could see it.

[blissful onyx]

Ground effects likely

Without a corpse removal mechanic, death is likely

[indigo wolf]

I had that situation in a map earlier today

I think my case was chaos golems doing some kind of sunder-ish wave that you could barely see

I'd kill everything around me then die and I had no idea why until I noticed it about 3/4 through the map

Another situation was some kind of meteors, I am not sure what the source was (it wasn't the fireballs from the 4legged boss being in the map), but in that case the map had 120% increased AOE and 2 phys as extra mods

[main epoch]

Oh yeah I died early on once to the 2 legged fire guys that shoot fire things from far away. I can see those now that I know to watch for them. They hurt. Does the chaos golem thing you are describing deal chaos dmg? I don't think I have ever seen or noticed it.

[indigo wolf]

I'm not 100% sure about the golems since I don't know what the specific mob is called to look it up

But my guess it's phys with 50% converted to chaos

[young swan]

Are there any active guilds in this game? Just completed campaign for the first time

[crisp tree]

#poe1-recruiting-guilds-archive

[crude quail]

SOME body have the craft 3% life regen when flask is in use ???

[errant hemlock]

Anybody know how an MF/support toon wearing gravebind would work? Would their increased magic find stats apply in a group setting? Alternatively, what if both people in a two man group wear them? All kills count for both?

[wind sparrow]

its awfull for MF , the range on it is super small

[errant hemlock]

That’s lame. So for a group MF the only real option is 2 MF builds, ya?

[violet nymph]

need some good necro gear lmk

[rapid pendant]

What are the chances?

I think GGG is trying to tell me something

[tawdry plover]

Its a bloodline mod

Keepers of the trove or similar

[eager charm]

correct

so to answer your question, uncommon but no not a rare occurance

[dense ruin]

Lol, the chances to get 17 pquivers back to back without keep is so infinitely low that it's functionally impossible

[vast gazelle]

I think it’s “get fucked” XD

[rapid pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-scream-shout-sad-gif-15786007

[violet nymph]

Kinda blows the last week and a half has been so busy I haven't had much time to play. The last time I did, I was so frustrated with not having enough defensive layers, I moved all gems, items, everything to the stash and deleted, starring a champion for that fortify and other buffs.

[molten hound]

300 stacks is like playing a map that is 12 tiers higher

assuming the curve is still 9% more damage taken past t16

you're taking 4 times the damage

[indigo wolf]

What kind of juice do you need to get 300 stacks?
I am fully clearing scourge every map but I usually end up at 250, sometimes less.
Even farming the switch doesn't seem to work, I can switch in an area where I'd previously cleared the scourge and no new mobs spawn

[blissful onyx]

25%+ pack size or beyond, and run beyond on the map device

Then shift in and out as much as possible

First 15-20 shifts will always spawn a new pack nearby

You can abuse this to fairly easily get 300 by the end of the map

[indigo wolf]

Ah, I don't normally use beyond, that must be why

[slender temple]

dudes im gonan level a 2nd char to 100 before finsihing hte crucible

58/63 is just over HALF the crucible. wtf right?

its ok

at least its deterministic now

[indigo wolf]

It's not quite comparable like that. Running a lot of T1s is worth more scourge exp than a T16, but that's not going to help with 100

[slender temple]

im doing t16 only so xp is coming ;p

as long as i dont die too much . tbh it doesnt matter

just gotta zoom it

[wet plaza]

@slender temple just make a tower farmer and the crucible grinds itself basically

Or basically any 250ms zoom char in any good scourge map

[violet nymph]

anyone trynna help me finish act 9

[slow coyote]

#1┃looking-for-group maybe...

Or just look at public groups in-game.

[slender temple]

ehhhh making new chars nooooooo haha

[mental crescent]

lvling to 100 just seems so impossible for me

i die too much lol

2 lvl 100 chars is crazy

[slender temple]

last time id id multiple was delirium i did 3 x 100 and ritual 2 x 100

because of the league mechanic mainly and some op builds

scourge is just nutty i love it

too bad the actual scourge xp tree can't be juiced

same xp in white t1 vs red giga krangeld t16

[mental crescent]

oh really

i saw a reddit post where some dude hit max crucible in like a week or something crazy

[violet nymph]

Isn't it 50 xp pts per killed mob in krangleverse

No matter what

[versed marlin]

50 xp per debuff stack

[fervent wave]

So if you run the maps that give you more debuff, you can grind it faster

[mental crescent]

nvm i cant find it, it was probs a karma grabbing post rip

[slender temple]

well

if you play 24/7 its np ig uess

[shy pivot]

I got 1% scourge xp per map from grinding glacier with breach

Maxed it out pretty quickly

[sterile ferry]

@slender templeCould you help me with the challenge where he asks you to kill a boss from beyond in harvest, I don't understand how to do it, I already tried everything.

[tawny pasture]

what you dont understand

need to do a map with beyond mod

finding sacred grove

then in the sacred groove you need to spawn a beyond boss by killing monster

[sterile ferry]

I've already done it and it doesn't come out, is there any trick or some way to force haervst

[tawny pasture]

force harvest nop

can only force beyond , but not beyond boss

its just luck

[sterile ferry]

yes i know

ty

[lilac saffron]

@sterile ferry I dont know if they changed it but killing a boss outside while you are inside works. Just get someone else to help you

[slender temple]

not relaly. i just paid someone 2 ex for that last week hahaha

cuz i just wanted to get the tick. its not an intersting challenge. it just sounds annoying

[glossy spear]

Hmm this feels like a waste to run for me XD

[tawny pasture]

go farm

[slender temple]

no it looks like a wharf. wasteland is a different map

[ivory obsidian]

Hey anyone flicker strike that can give me some pointers about one

[rocky bridge]

#build-fixing

[violet swallow]

moved to lfg

[bitter rock]

Hello , who can help me with some advice for tornado shot corrupting fever build?

[dusty gale]

Are gauntlet's SSF HC Characters moving to Scourge HC SSF or standard HC SSF? a source would be great. have heard both things now.

[proper widget]

standard is the typical destination of all characters

maybe gauntlet is different since its a custom league but it wouldnt make sense for gauntlet gear to transfer into scourge league

[fiery marlin]

Should I bother getting into the league now? Noobie don’t want the league to shut down as soon as I level

[light adder]

What didn´t you like about the answers in the other channel?

[proper widget]

!leagues

[brisk cape]

Temporary leagues typically last 3 months, contain a unique new mechanic and do not allow players access to their existing characters and items. Most players play the temporary leagues.

Standard is the permanent league and has been running since Path of Exile's launch. There are many more items in the economy, deflating their value. The population is lower than the temporary leagues. If you can only play a small amount of time per week and want to go very far in the game, this can be a good game mode.

If you are a new player, it is strongly recommended to play in the current temporary league.

For details on what happens when a temporary league ends, see https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091028

The Expedition league will end:
PC - <t:1634590800:R> on <t:1634590800:F>
Console - <t:1635375600:R> on <t:1635375600:F>

The Scourge league will start:
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@fiery marlin

[turbid sigil]

Can some1 help me to kill sirus? plz

[inland oracle]

Is anyone playin Blade Flurry this league? but not General's Cry

[patent zinc]

yes, doing blade flurry on a budget strength of blood stacker

[frigid pelican]

When is this league end ?😁

[crisp tree]

4 weeks

[coral gyro]

the numer of absobed corruption needed to transform an item is the same for low ilvl and high ilvl?
is it faster with low ilvl items¿

[indigo wolf]

Lower item level needs less

[full pendant]

Is there any blade vortex player out there that can help me with what gears i can buy to better my char?

[slow coyote]

Asking in one channel is enough.

[wispy wharf]

Hi guys , i wonder if anyone could help me do 3rth and 4rth labs? never done them i feel stucked

[north dragon]

stepbro im stuck

[slender temple]

my review of scourge: super fun 0 complaints. in fact even teh challengs were just grindy and not insane like (ultimatum) other leagues. i felt like i could just target them and didnt feel cheated by any of them. rounding on my 2nd 100 char tho because of the sheer amount of grind this league required for 40 chall

i love scourge mechanic and krangling items

and ive always been a map explore freak so fuill clearing maps feels natural to me 😄

[lilac citrus]

really only need to get 36 imo

since the last 4 are just clout

[slender temple]

well

once you collect enough eagles you can do cool stuff in your hide out

[normal pollen]

when does scourge ends ?

[crisp tree]

#old-game-news

[normal pollen]

yeah 2 weeks extended ..... but 2 weeks from what date 😄

tomorrow ?

[crisp tree]

We're currently expecting to launch the 3.17 expansion in early February

[normal pollen]

I know that...

[crisp tree]

second week i assume

[normal pollen]

but they could end scourge end of jan though .... thats what I mean ... even though 3.17 MIGHT be february ...

[crisp tree]

na, it will end 5 days before new league starts

[normal pollen]

ah ok

thats what I wanted to know 😄

[runic zephyr]

scourge maps can only have 6 scourge mods right? so when i make a map t1 scourge and see it rolling phys dmg on shift its a safe vendor

[slow coyote]

See #trading

[vast bobcat]

any aura bots wanna hop in for this simulacrum? im on wave 21

[heady tusk]

early New Year Present

About 10 sets of the lion card

[slow coyote]

@maiden mesa head over to #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help if you've never played before. But there aren't really any shortcuts to level up quickly, you just need to get better at the game.

[twilit barn]

hi guys. not sure if this is right channel. but does anyone have a demon harpy that i can raise one from?

[dense ruin]

go to global 6666

or tbh 666 also works

[wooden nexus]

run me through all acts ill pay

[slow coyote]

Read the rules. I won't pay.

[wooden nexus]

@slow coyote pay as in ex oir chaos dumbass

[slow coyote]

Nice. Breaking the rules again 😂

[slow coyote]

6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See trading for alternatives.

1. Be Respectful! Personal abuse, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature won’t be tolerated. This includes belittling other users based on their platform or league of choice.

[tawny pasture]

rude

[brisk cape]

Rule 1. Be Respectful! Personal abuse, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature won’t be tolerated. This includes belittling other users based on their platform or league of choice.

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[wooden nexus]

mini modding smh

[brisk cape]

Rule 1. Be Respectful! Personal abuse, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature won’t be tolerated. This includes belittling other users based on their platform or league of choice.

[eager charm]

How about actual modding then, relax and trades are not allowed on the server

[dense ruin]

Why would it be

Gotta get on that grind(ing gear games)

[eager charm]

no relaxing, grind only

[prime summit]

Finally got something half decent

[dark valve]

How many days to legaue end?

[dark valve]

Thanks

[slow coyote]

#trading

[hexed vale]

I thought the Scourge timer stopped or slowed down a lot when fighting the Scourge bosses? It was certainly the case when I fought K'tash a while ago, but now I encountered Beidat and the timer didn't slow down at all (so I wasn't able to kill it)

[tawny pasture]

refill the bar and go fight it again

[hexed vale]

I did but my dps was not high enough. But previously the timer almost stopped, I am sure of that. And I was able to beat K'tash, even though it took a long time. No chance now

[red jackal]

it stops for 5 seconds, then again after every 5% hp lost iirc

so if you have zdps you only get a 5s pause

[hexed vale]

ok, it sounds like that's what happened. zdps is never good 🙂 I will be more prepared next time 😄

[lyric thorn]

ok guys so I have a krangled map that is adding 3000 fire damage on nightmare entry every tier. Im up to 12000 fire damage but i have 6500hp and 76% fire res so if it goes to 15000 ill mitigate 11400 damage and still have 3600hp to work with. is this correct? Am i missing something or is that not how damage works. its a really good map so i want to keep going but dont want to break it. second opinions very appreciated

[hallow hare]

it'll deal 3600 damage, leaving you with 2900 HP left. Every additional tier will do around ~750 more damage

I'm not sure if that fire damage can ignite you or not since I'm immune to ailments, but if you have decent chaos resistance, you can just use this for any damage-on-shift krangled map that doesn't oneshot you

Forbidden Taste
Quartz Flask

Used when you take a Savage Hit (enchant)

Recover 100% of Life on use
25% of Maximum Life taken as Chaos Damage per second

the shifting damage is a savage hit so this flask instantly heals you to full so you're not left vulnerable at low health even for a brief instant

very good QoL but again needs your chaos res to not be terrible (at least 60%, 75/80% recommended if your life regen isn't super high)

[lyric thorn]

thanks a ton for the help i really appreciate it

[lost bolt]

Or get a dying sun/regular ruby flask for 20% less fire damage taken

[narrow nova]

can someone please explain to me how my game can run buttery smooth sometimes and up to 4000 ping for weeks on end, and then all of a sudden smooth again?

[slow coyote]

Magic.

[pearl prairie]

Ping is not tied to the game though

[slow coyote]

Network problems are probably nothing to do with the game itself either. It'll be your network or the route that the packets are taking.

Time to bust out the trusty tracert and do some old-fashioned debugging.

[pearl prairie]

Probably your ISP fucking you

[mellow crest]

Anyone wanna play on the scourge league I made it to act 5 so far

New player

[crisp tree]

#1┃looking-for-group

[violet nymph]

Anyone want to make new character and go through the game have to be committed VC required

[slow coyote]

You already posted in #1┃looking-for-group (the right channel). There's no need to crosspost.

[violet nymph]

Nobody goes to that channel

It's so dead

[slow coyote]

That's no excuse to spam the wrong channels.

[violet nymph]

Didn't spam I sent it once to lfg and I think this one

Twice is not spam

[tawny pasture]

third if we count #playstation

[lost bolt]

No one is looking to start something like that this late into the league

You can probably find someone to play with at the start of the next league on Feb 4 (9 on console) either on reddit or the official forums

[tawny pasture]

isnt it 11 feb ?

[lost bolt]

4

[tawny pasture]

4 pc 11 console

[lost bolt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/s39ir2/-/hsjg8pd/?context=3

Seemed weird to me that it wasn't a Friday but they said 9

[tawny pasture]

ah my bad

really strange its not on friday

[wet plaza]

[slender temple]

maybte they will pull a dio and reveal the real reveal on friday

AHA YOU THOUGHT IT WAS AN EXPANSION AND A LEAGUE BUT really it was (poe2 beta invitation signups?) ????

[lilac saffron]

Hard mode closed beta

[slender temple]

ill play on it if its between leagues

but while league alive i gotta collect my eagle

[stuck cipher]

when does league end again?

[devout osprey]

like 30th of janurary

or 1st feb

[stuck cipher]

hmmmmmmm

[devout osprey]

the game? ye

[autumn snow]

[next epoch]

("...but it was me, Dio!")

[slender temple]

Siege-o

wait his name is dio brando

brand league confirmed?

[next epoch]

Storm Brando, Armageddon Brando, Arcanist Brando, Brando Recall

[timid geyser]

Road Roller Brando confirmed new skill

[next epoch]

I'm imagining it working exactly like Armageddon Brand, except with different graphics and physical damage

[slow junco]

who on

[rigid sonnet]

anybody has syndicate operatives I can borrow? uwu

[earnest ingot]

whats a good starter league build for raider?

[dreamy gulch]

https://i.imgur.com/V87ZZDE.png

[true epoch]

this league sucked

i played it for a little less than 2 weeks and quit

Ritual League kept me playing the entire time.

[slender temple]

if we get somethign as poggers as the maven expansion

yeah will be hooked right to the end

[bronze cave]

All expansions have been great imo

[sour mountain]

the last league that i swallowed whole was Ultimatum

i didnt play much of the other two this year

wait there were 4 lmaoooooo

excavation is neat i guess?

[violet nymph]

Anyone looking to make a new character and playthrough the game my platform is psn DM if interested

[tawny pasture]

#1┃looking-for-group

[violet nymph]

Ty saggy balls

[tawny pasture]

you seem to have difficulty using the right channel everyday

[autumn snow]

Probably because ritual came with an expansion...

Ritual itself was pretty mediocre

[pastel mauve]

ritual kept me playing for most of the league mainly because it was my first league

Ultimatum was fun, Expedition was a bit meh. scourge has a fun mechanic with crap rewards

[autumn snow]

Scourge is very rewarding

If you can clear well

Krangler is shit

Expedition was quite nice, I like the logbooks

It's away better this league with atlas nodes

[pastel mauve]

Yeah, true, scourge maps give good rewards

the krangler not so much

[violet nymph]

Yes I do

[pastel mauve]

I wish they added the function where, when you modify an item with rog, it would highlight what modifiers get edited as an option for every crafting item

would make learning the system so much easier

[devout osprey]

"bijoux" the div card means "a jewel or trinket."

thought it would be something fancier.

[slow coyote]

Nah, not fancy. Just French.

[serene willow]

I was really into switching realities and leveling scourge skills and items, but i fell off around act 6 or 7. Anyone else really stick to it, and is it a good benefit, or just something neat to do?

[tawny pasture]

it could be skip the whole campain

and item you get from it are bas in 99% of time

[slender temple]

once you cn clear it reliablty its a great source of xp and its like playing a MF build as you get more stacks you get more quant and rarity

so yeah defiantely hitup the scourge mode once you are able to do it consistently

scourging items side benefit

lleague and trade market are kind of over but mid league selling items you scourged was great

specially maps

[serene willow]

Ahhh that makes sense actually

[scenic egret]

The krangler was awesome for leveling, it would upgrade white items to yellow

[fair aspen]

So to finally see and kill Sirius for first time, I need a map that says it's inhabited by him? Never made it this far before lol

[silver kettle]

When you defeat all four conquerors after Sirus starts showing up, Zana will just have a dialogue option to fight him. No map needed

[fair aspen]

Ah okay, so the second line is the conq. Cool.

[lilac saffron]

Finally rare monster changes

Name's fitting well

[rocky nebula]

I was hoping for Oblivion or Doom as the league name

[wanton rivet]

guess this horn guy is the new big bad

he's not the dude from the expansion reveal so i wonder whats up w that

[slow coyote]

Might get into trouble with someone's lawyers with either of those choices.

[lilac saffron]

Not really

Maybe doom

[devout osprey]

imagine the unarmed damage with this guy

4 pairs of facebreakers

[lilac saffron]

But no boots

[devout osprey]

¨keystone inc

[cunning blade]

make all his hands pat cats

[lilac saffron]

Nemesis is going to be reworked into a collect heads from rare monster design kind of league IMO

Sort of like metamorph

But with a twist to it

Plus rares are gonna have new mods

[cunning blade]

Nemesis Headhunter vs new Archnemesis Headgiver

[lilac saffron]

Is it gonna give head

[cunning blade]

[violet nymph]

I wish I had ten arms

[rocky nebula]

Not really. It's a subtitle for an expansion that's not even remotely similar to Doom

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this dude brewing while we ruin the atlas? maybe zanas warnings finally bear fruit?

[dense ruin]

Ready for nemesis^2

[bronze cave]

Nem9 farming inc

[autumn snow]

This is league, the other teaser was expansion

[quaint vigil]

What if each hand has a skull and it`s that person is the one that made the headhunter

And in archnemeis we all craft our very own shitty version of headhunter

[open gyro]

Already thought that lol

[lilac saffron]

Didnt lavianga make headhunter

Along with kaom

[next epoch]

personally I'm holding out for archdomination league

[crisp tree]

archmage enki league

[quaint vigil]

ok what if the league

Listen

What if

The league was about having more hands?

We can now quadriplewield

[crisp tree]

more hands for more flasks

[quaint vigil]

Yeah but the 4 other hands are for atziri's

[next epoch]

facebreakers crying in the corner

[quaint vigil]

hey man

Facebreaker has been a decent item since its invention

[crisp tree]

and more rings, 8 rings with 8 curses

[quaint vigil]

It merits a rest

oh shit

[rocky nebula]

Dual wielding bows now boys

[quaint vigil]

I dind't think about the 8 rings

I wonder what broken thing you could do with 8 rings

[rocky nebula]

Have 8 pariahs for uber mf build

Or 8 ventors

[next epoch]

now imagining uniques with special cases for all eight fingers

[quaint vigil]

8 new unique rights

[next epoch]

"+2 to thiccness when worn on upper left hand, +2 to stubbornness when worn on medial left hand..."

[rocky nebula]

New unique jewel: you can use 2 rings each for your mainhand and offhand weapons. Cannot use normal weapons.

[crisp tree]

8 iron cold point

[quaint vigil]

"1st Seal of the Shaper" "2nd Seal of the Elder" "3rd Seal of the Chimera", until the 8th

First set in poe's history

When you got all 8th seal your character just dies

and then a vide of chriss wilson plays

[rocky nebula]

They should expand on cluster jewels for more playstyles

[quaint vigil]

"Haha you thought poe would get sets?"

I mean they nerfed cluster jewels last league no?

I do agree with you I loved clustes

[rocky nebula]

They've nerfed them each league after delirium

The only time it pissed me off to no end was when they removed the +1 max Ballistas notable

Everything else I don't care for

[indigo wolf]

I don't understand why the removed the cluster notables when they added them as masteries.
Why not leave them as cluster notables still, so you have the option of going with just a notable instead of taking a wheel just for a mastery?
Some notables are already exclusive, so I assume it's not the risk of stacking certain effects. (Which was possible but not a game-breaking problem when they were just notables.)

[lost bolt]

Stacking notables is one of the main things i wish they'd delete from the game

It makes balancing things so much more difficult and basically causes a situation where they have to assume you'll run as many as you can and balance accordingly

So you're stuck having to use multiple to get the benefit

[rocky nebula]

some silly builds require a ton of the same notable to work and you're already investing into a niche build which isn't gonna be cheap anyway, so why further remove player agency?

[lilac saffron]

Depends on a case per case basis

I wouldnt mind if they did tho

[hoary snow]

I'm just interested in more QoL

this last league had several great things and I'd be really interested in seeing that trend continue

[barren crescent]

This might push unearth to viability

[frail canopy]

Do we know if they will be changing up the passive tree again?

[tawny pasture]

nop

[frail canopy]

Cool, thanks

[slender temple]

definately will be changing spell supression haha

[remote ruin]

I hope they wont

and also I hope no changes to trappers (Siesmic and Exh.)

[slender temple]

hah

phys traps gonna go byebye. if not ill be surprised

[slow coyote]

I really enjoyed phys trapper, so I'll be sad to see it go. At the same time, it's pretty broken and deserves nerfs.

[remote ruin]

yes, ik this is my wishful thinking 🙂 gonna need a good clear - boss killer all around league starter 🙂

[knotty wasp]

Explosive trapper

Same thing just not cip

[pastel mauve]

Sounds like imma need a bosskiller this league

[empty aspen]

Poisonous concoction nerf?

If they don’t I’m probably gonna go that

[pastel mauve]

Haven't played that yet

[tawny pasture]

its not a boss killer

[pastel mauve]

If my cold dot vortex is still viable i might go with that again

[empty aspen]

Smooth levelling tbh

[pastel mauve]

Main issue with that is the price, im not that good at grinding currency, and a 6L of the unique i need is probably gonna be a lot more expensive than last league

and was already around 1 to 2 ex

[empty aspen]

F

[pastel mauve]

Tho i guess i could build a non LL version

just loses me a few auras

think it had around 8 different auras xD

[simple pivot]

Looks like each rare mob will have archnemesis modifier with a chance to drop ring with 3 stones and upperbodyparthunter as rare drop 😉

[empty aspen]

Source?

[simple pivot]

It a joke about nemesis league that already was in game

[empty aspen]

Oh soz

[simple pivot]

It was like:
Each rare mob had nemesis modifier with a chance to drop ring with 2 stones and headhunter as rare drop (all mentioned items was added in this league)

[fallen tulip]

what

did u get access to the krangled patch notes already

[dire plover]

Even for the most casual player you can start chaos recipe in blood aquaducts and come up with a few ex in no time.

[pastel mauve]

Yeah, but that was a 6L last league

they are gonna be a lot more expensive this league without the krangeld fusings

[violet nymph]

I mean it's just returning to normal prices without them

scourge just tanked their prices

[pastel mauve]

Yeah, which is why i probably won't be going the LowLife route of my build

Tho i don't really know what the normal price of the 6L shav's wrappings is

[violet nymph]

normally it's about 5-6ex

pretty normal price range for unique 6l body armours that people want

[pastel mauve]

more than I normally have at 1 point

[violet nymph]

Honestly i'm just going CI this time and going to play with an Aegis Aurora.

then it doesn't matter how much damage I do, i won't die

[runic jolt]

They've said that one of the things they're doing to prepare for PoE2 is making 6 links easier to acquire. I wouldn't be surprised if the new league has some method of generating 6-links, or if they tweaked the 6-link chance to make it easier

[wind sundial]

I want were skills this league

If I can't play a were snake why even play

[runic jolt]

I think we'll likely see maybe 1-2 transformation skills before PoE2. But I think they're likely to be granted by unique items

Just a wild prediction for how we might see them. Any of the skill gems proper are going to wait for PoE2

[wind sundial]

I'm sleepy I just want my were snake before I die

[slow coyote]

They have years to prepare for PoE2 still. There's no rush to do it in the next league.

[ionic summit]

No way we see transformations before new character models

The models are pretty much the reason why they're making PoE2

[slow coyote]

They're making entirely new mechanics and storylines so they can use new models? 🤔

[slender temple]

you do know that gear will lose sockets in poe2

it will be socketed gems instead

and meta gems

[wind sundial]

When do we get more poe2 teasers

[slender temple]

hopefulily in 6 days

[wind sundial]

I don't believe it exists anymore

[slender temple]

poe2. poemobile, portrait mtx, 3.17 league. 3.17 expansion, balance manifesto, etc

lots of stuff to tell us about

i suspect they wont tell us about poe2

but rather will tell us between 3.17 and 3.18

[wind sundial]

They're never going to tell us anything about poe2 ever again

It's just an empty hope machine

[slender temple]

i think beta will be this year

[wind sundial]

Dream on, dream man

They haven't even finished act 3 of 7 :P

[lilac saffron]

6 linking should be 350 fusings average

Change my mind

Or whatever 6 socket average is

[wind sundial]

I wanna see the poe2 ascendancies

[slender temple]

they said 6 socketing gems with jewellers orbs wil be easier

fusings will go byebye

[lilac saffron]

Poggers

[sterile brook]

I played POE 2 Alpha, I can confirm it exists, at least Act 1 of it

[lilac saffron]

Same

[sterile brook]

They've had 50% of the team working on it for... years at this point? It's so massive

[wet plaza]

act 1 is gonna be so polished

slaps town WP

[lilac saffron]

I can confirm, I was POE 2 Alpha

[slender temple]

does this mean leagues will be betetr once they launch it?

[lilac saffron]

Yes

[slender temple]

amazing

[wind sundial]

I need the ascendancies

[lilac saffron]

I need you

[wind sundial]

Aw

[lilac saffron]

😳

[slender temple]

i wanna see the new 4D skill tree

which requires brain computer interface to properly experience

[violet nymph]

nah they are making poe 2 as a way to make massive sweeping changes across the board. the models are just part of the changes and are needed for new animation stuff and selling mtx

[ionic summit]

I just remember that in some dev talk they were basically talking about how the models sucked and it snowballed

[violet nymph]

probably. i belive most of their time os on poe 2 atm. so the leagues for the last year or teo have suffered. but after poe 2 launch things should get spicy

[autumn snow]

imagine thinking that

you know what's coming after poe 2?

a new massive expansion, just like poe 2 if not bigger

[ionic summit]

Dev should be easier when they phase out a lot of legacy tech

[violet nymph]

well after poe 2 you can expect a spicy patch every other day for a year.

day one patch be like
"fixed extra 0 added to the damage effectivness of tornado shot, boss no longer shoots adds instead of projectiles, game now launches with only 1 graphics card instead of 5, headhunter no longer wins game, mage blood now works on unique flasks, ect

[ionic summit]

3.18: ArchSynthesis

[autumn snow]

I still wonder if this league is nemesis reworked or a completely new thing

[bold basalt]

maybe we finally get the rare rework we want

HH on suicide watch

[urban torrent]

it would be actually nice

[violet nymph]

archnemesis monsters now drop 8 addition high value currencies on death, mf farm inc

[autumn snow]

it would be great if each new league was a reworked old league

[ionic summit]

I mean there are only so many things you can do in a 2d isometric arpg

[violet nymph]

well that is what they want to sorta do. they are replacing old leagues now so it could be that nem is actually being replaced

[ionic summit]

But there's a lot of different ways to package them

[autumn snow]

replaced isn't reworked though

[violet nymph]

ez fix, first person poe update. cyclone indirectly nerfed for casuals

[slow coyote]

What if they don't get motion sickness?

[violet nymph]

top 1 % player strat. just dont get sick 5head

[compact marten]

Bruh omniscience

We bout to start stackin this or what

it gets rid of all minimum attribute requirements yo

[peak blaze]

what builds do you guys think will get nerfed next league?

[autumn snow]

yes

[grave gulch]

dd (or how it scales with ignite), phys trapper and maybe some of the new defenses

[slow coyote]

Just play something off meta and you won't be hit. I'm going with conversion trap.

[peak blaze]

whats the current meta? i dont know where to see the meta tbh

oh i see, poeninja kinda tells a lot

[slow coyote]

Pick a skill with less than 1% usage and GGG probably won't touch it 😅

All those builds played by 5%+ of players... they'll draw attention, especially if they have key items in common.

[slender temple]

they nerfed penance brand 😛

[crisp tree]

they nerfed bane 3 times

[livid apex]

this guy has me convinced https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/s9infc/archnemesis_unique_items_chase_you_theory/

[rocky nebula]

unique enemy that chases you everywhere? reminds me prince of persia: warrior within

[lost bolt]

Nemesis system from shadow of mordor

[rocky nebula]

Xandro Blooddrinker would like to know your location

[slender temple]

what if archnemesis is poe mobile launch. the nemesis is mobile players
and we have to hutn them down
and kill them like the scum that they are

[elder cairn]

Path of Exile Immortal

[proper widget]

problem with that theory is that ggg explained their art design process is about having a backlog of assets to choose from

[barren crescent]

Unkillable quad ghosted xandro

[primal whale]

Damn they made a whole league about betrayal's intervention mechanic?

[barren crescent]

we don't know anything of the league mechanic

[north dragon]

Just extra mobs league

Kappa

[indigo wolf]

Damn they made a whole league about betrayal's intervention mechanic?
All those random exiles you've been steamrolling have rerolled into unnerfed meta builds and are now hunting you

Encountering at least 1 of those broken hotgm builds once a map

[slow coyote]

I thought boats had been confirmed.

[low kindle]

rare monster rework league?

tbh I like the way magic and rare monsters are now currently

[livid lake]

rares need taking out the back and slapping

too many times rare mod overlap causes one shots

[lusty burrow]

literally just anarchy league

[violet nymph]

i'm calling it now, it's going to be something closer to metamorphosis league except instead of just collecting the parts. we keep fighting a enemy we setup over time and it keeps trying to kill us.

[dusty umbra]

to be fair even at launch sure aoe was awesome but that's about it

good leveling skills it was tho

[fair aspen]

league is on the 4th?

[devout osprey]

yes

on PC

[fair aspen]

cool

[cunning blade]

maybe each time u kill a rare enemy on the map, it adds a modifier(s) from said rare to the archnemesis which you have to fight at the end kekw

After killing a few archnemesis, u get to fight a giga juicy one at some arena based off the smaller ones u killed before

[rocky nebula]

I hope it's not something predictable

I like it when GGG makes creative leagues, even if I initially hated Synthesis and Blight

[lilac citrus]

I hope its a league where they reduce lag, and thats the new mechanic

[fair aspen]

Blight was long before my time, but I really enjoy it

[slender temple]

i liked blight. the cassia "attract mode" when shes in a map is a great touch

really wish all teh npcs would be like that

screaming eeeexile where are youuu

[indigo wolf]

attract mode?

[slender temple]

like at an arcade

it plays demos and music then you put in quarter and game bgins

most league mechanics are like that

little machines waiting for you to pop in and hit go

[indigo wolf]

Oh, I misread. Thought you were saying it was specific to cassia, but you just meant her flavor of it.

[slender temple]

correct.

alotof older console games have attract mode too

if you just sit at title screen it will sometimes just go to some gameplay

[storm crown]

are our enemies the arch nemesises or are we the exiles the arch nemesis

[stoic silo]

Enemy

[storm crown]

but exiles has killed their arch enemy tho

[stone tide]

imagine hogm builds but with expedition mods
literally unkillable

[barren crescent]

Eeeexile patience is not one of my virtues, build a tower like I reguested you to

[unique pond]

this

I hope it is some insane shit

[fringe umbra]

I think the Atlas will be completely different

[livid lake]

lol

it won't be that big of a change likely

[fringe umbra]

Since they said somehting about it being like changeable for future updates

[livid lake]

just a new endgame boss that you need to kill 4 sub bosses in order to fight

[fringe umbra]

We'll see but i hope tho

I tihnk the way we get there will be different

tho

[livid lake]

don't get me wrong, i hope they change it up entirely

[fringe umbra]

Like do we even have watchstones anymore?

Whats gonna happen to that whole system

[livid lake]

the current version is very good

[rancid pumice]

I mean I think its gonna be something along the lines of: Valdo's Rest is under attack by the Nullifier! and then you need to run 10 maps with nullifier mobs in them among others to go and fight him to get a fragment for the final boss? dunno

something along those lines anyway 😄

I wonder if GGG devs read these chats like ''They don't know pepeLa"

[livid lake]

there are GGG devs here, so very possible

[silver kettle]

I don't laugh at random speculation though

I like reading it

[tawny pasture]

not even the dumbest one ?

[silver kettle]

I gueeessss

[autumn snow]

did you read any correct speculation so far? 👀

[silver kettle]

yes

there's always some

law of large numbers

[lusty burrow]

Itd be interesting if the maven witness stuff is the "guardian" content that comes before the new final boss

Like, simply using what already exists

(That being said i still haven't fought maven yet and im not sure id be able to do the boss if it were required lol)

[autumn snow]

guardian?

you mean conquerors?

[lusty burrow]

You know, like conquerors before sirus

[autumn snow]

maven system has to fit somewhere

assuming it's not completely reworked

which would be a bit weird...?

[lusty burrow]

If it were reworked id be happy

[west fiber]

👀 well every major expansion the atlas system changes in some way

[lusty burrow]

Regions are a bit limiting imo

[autumn snow]

I hope we don't have regions anymore

[west fiber]

"master region"

[autumn snow]

it's really hard to speculate what could be the new end game

[west fiber]

where we socket watchstones for parts in the core of the atlas

kekw

[autumn snow]

well, we need a progression system

not expecting this to be like pre conquerors

[west fiber]

say the watchstones are here

[lusty burrow]

"siege" of the atlas is a name with gameplay implications

[autumn snow]

I forgot how pretty the old map was

https://web.poecdn.com/image/atlas/ss/Atlas/Screenshot1.jpg

[west fiber]

exactly, the question is, are we the ones who conquer it and then after we have it conquered, it's being invaded by enemy maven-like foes

[lusty burrow]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3227689

[west fiber]

it was meh xD

[autumn snow]

meh?

[west fiber]

looked great but actually experiencing it was meh

[autumn snow]

just talking about visuals :p

[west fiber]

ye then agreed xD

[tall herald]

any spoilers coming? i need my fix

[rancid pumice]

no spoiler today? sadge

[next epoch]

oof, that was the really old one too where each region of red maps was completely isolated

[graceful acorn]

no, it wasn't

it was the very first iteration with no circle in the middle

the next three had it

[mortal yarrow]

At times i miss old map

Then i remember how you summoned uelder and i stop missing the old map

[slender temple]

well have australian/nz preston garvey telling us about our settlements being under attack

[stone tide]

it was sooo smooth though, get elder to middle, do 4 guardians, boom - smooth af

[next epoch]

I also unironically enjoyed having mechanics which depended on the physical layout and connectivity of the atlas

in Conquerors / Echoes the only part of that which matters is connectivity, and even that only for initial map unlocks -- once you've got map completion the only time you ever have to open the atlas is to swap out watchstones

[proper widget]

atlas = do zana daily

😴

[vernal pelican]

wait so

when does this launch

im confused between the archnemesis vs siege of the atlas

[tawny pasture]

its the same

siege of the atlas is like an expension and archnemesis is the league

and it start on 4th

[slender temple]

siege will last for 4-5 leagues in a row. archnemesis is just one league

[tawny pasture]

siege is a good entrance for the story of poe 2

since its 10 years later and every thing have been destroy

[slender temple]

it mgith be

dependson how far AFTER karui shores we go with teh story

[vernal pelican]

no i meant

when is the start date or archnemesis vs siege of atlas

[tawny pasture]

same date

i told you

[upper ledge]

poe2 will probably have another new atlas expansion

[neat rover]

painchamp

[autumn snow]

so we already know that we lost

[glad furnace]

it does look way better dont it

honestly the "rope" creating the sectors on the map hinder its looks alot

[atomic heart]

considering how they handled the conquerors lore rewrite

[pastel mauve]

inb4 the atlast is "sieged" by the top 10 builds of all leagues in previous expansion, and we are new exiles who have to survive

[atomic heart]

I imagine we'd skip to Karui Shores, with a timeskip

[pastel mauve]

Will be the first time i actually see karui shores xD

haven't managed to kill sirus

could've done it this leagues, but got bored at some point

[slender temple]

Please no

I want to advance beyond karui shores

[autumn snow]

uh

what

[slender temple]

galaxy brain

[hoary snow]

feethunter, where you're after Maven once again to steal her soles

[slender temple]

if its something like that

the global 1 names

will be quite interesting.

[marsh oracle]

wake me up when archdelirium league comes out

[slender temple]

k ill knock on your window

[final plume]

Any idea what this league could be about?

Nemsis 2.0?

[bronze cave]

all we can do is guess

[slow coyote]

Or wait until the reveal 🤷‍♂️

[marsh oracle]

The release date of PoE 3.17(Archnemesis league and Siege of the Atlas expansion) is February 4, 2022.

this is for video gaming not for the announcement right? doubling checking this time

[eager charm]

yes

that is when you can start your nolife again

[marsh oracle]

ty! 😭

[solid rampart]

can you confirm they are going to nerf chaos dot raider?

[tired condor]

Toxic rain specifically

buff to quivers

[glad furnace]

bruh the changes to fireball are insane

actually dumb

wtf is that base damage and damage effectiveness

[indigo wolf]

I'm confused by

self cast lacks access to defensive options
and then
buff damage, do nothing about defenses, and nerf unleash (which indirectly helps defense by not standing around as long)

[tired condor]

I am very surprised there were no changes to spell suppression, unless i missed something

[indigo wolf]

No mention of defenses in the manifesto, and a bex post in the reddit thread said no changes to defenses at all.

[violet nymph]

Defenses are a problem on selfcast because they can't sacrifice it's damage. they actively buffed their damage across the board. that opens up leeway for defenses in their builds.

@indigo wolf

[dusky kernel]

look at flame surge, it was the highest and it got higher

[next epoch]

“plz someone play flame surge?”

[grave valve]

what's the "increases and reductions to arrow speed also apply to bow damage" interaction with slower projectiles?

slower proj is just proj dmg so i think zero conflict but if it also counts as arrow speed is that a reduction in arrow damage? or also an increase in arrow damage?

[rapid karma]

how are there no ascendency changes mentioned in the manifesto

GGG is fine with the meta i guess

[rocky nebula]

The more I read this manifesto, the more I can feel GGG turning into Blizzard

😢

Well, I hope the patch notes don't just make me fall into despair

totem nerfs hopefully don't mean "kill ballistas so badly everyone forgets they ever existed in the game"

[tough roost]

Cause that's not what the manifesto is for

[lusty burrow]

granted ascendancy changes are something i'd say falls under the purview of balance

[noble marlin]

Not everything related to balance is under the balance manifesto

Only the bigger changes/problems that existed in previous leagues

Sure some ascendencies might be too strong and they'll get some smaller number changes but not major reworks

[storm crown]

Slow proj support is less speed so that mod isnt affected

[mystic bolt]

Prediction! Blink Arrow and Mirror Arrow will be viable builds in Archnemesis.
And with viable I mean maybe even kinda good!
They got buff after buff after buff. Especially with the new mastery system.
You can get stupid amounts of cooldown and duration now.
And now with these huge elemental bow and quiver buffs.. I think it might be an actual good build now.

[mystic bolt]

Shut up 😭

[wet plaza]

it was a good build in ritual already then the EE nerf nation attacked now its ok on a high budget

[dusty cove]

All I see is that juicy GH buff and want to try and make it work 😂

[slender temple]

all they did was remove the need for the jewel

[dusty cove]

Just you wait, gonna have pimp 6% buff in patchnotes

[autumn snow]

mastery got buffed tho

[wet plaza]

ah yes 5pt for cdr

[autumn snow]

it's something

<:

[oblique stream]

what time is the ptr or coubntdown to new leage info?

nevermind i see we still have two days!

[rotund pine]

so basically, explosive arrow starter?

[urban torrent]

no teaser today?

[simple vale]

This new item is kinda cool

no?

what build could use it?

[vernal isle]

wasn't there an amulet teased that gives you +all ele res from stats?

[violet nymph]

yes. also gives 1% pen per 10 stats

[vernal isle]

wonder how easy it is to get 4k total combined +stats

of course you can get some of that +eleres from somewhere else too

[light hatch]

so what happens when you get over 100% reduced res? does it start going up?

[vernal isle]

wait it's reduced, not less

that looks more broken than I thought

cut my number down to 2k +stats

[violet nymph]

i wonder if staff doryanis could work hmm

ball lightning doryanis with annihilating light hmm

[violet nymph]

nope. cuz you lose a lot of damage cuz it's reduced. which means it's a multiplier. which ends up setting you to iirc -60% res instead of -200%

ah yikes

[dusty umbra]

You get around +300 on normal builds and 500-700 on scion builds by default, add few extra nodes , simulacrum jewels and 45% to stats helm and youre not far off

[light hatch]

https://pastebin.com/3EaS9kWP If the reduced res mechanic works the way it does in PoB you can cap res with only -res gear. Simple inquis storm brand built over this mechanic

couple assumptions on max rolls for the new -res uniqs

[low gyro]

The Spreading Rot Unique Jewel is now limited to 1 (previously 2), this change affects existing items. It no longer has "With at least 40 Intelligence in Radius, Blight has 50% increased Hinder Duration". Instead, it now has "With at least 40 Intelligence in Radius, Blight has 30% reduced Cast Speed". Existing items can be updated to the new stat with a Divine Orb.
I have so many questions about this....

[primal whale]

People speculate that it's supposed to mean reduced cast time

[low gyro]

hmm the wording is faaar off for that?

or maybe its a typo and they mean increased cast speed

[silver kettle]

the wording is correct. this is what it looks like now

[low gyro]

pffff why do you wanna nerf yourself with that????

I would rather cast wither per hand then using this....

[slender temple]

or drop a totem

[fair aspen]

eh, so much for trying the last two conquerors i needed to do my first sirius, game broke hard on veritana's citadel ; ;

[indigo wolf]

I can only guess it's meant to be penalized 30% cast speed to gain blight applying wither.

[maiden coral]

Exalt Chaos and Annuls that corrupt?

[primal whale]

Why would you want a Chaos orb that corrupts?

I suspect these to be targeted elemental currency as they have the blue/red/yellowish color and they are pushing local elemental weapon damage while reducing power of flat added supports

[violet nymph]

they use the same colors as the expansion. it makes more sense to be tied to the new influences from that.

[sharp iron]

My prediction: They're adding a 7th Influence type that has the restriction that it consumes both influence slots, and items with the influence can only be modified by specific currency items and cannot be modified by the usual ones.

[light glade]

Didn't GGG say some time ago that they were looking to reduce the number of splinters and currency in the game? And now they're adding more crap for us to pick up and manage in an already bloated currency tab that probably won't even support these new ones initially?

[slender temple]

yes

to everything

[next epoch]

please no 😦 six and a half influences is already too many

[sharp iron]

Are you counting Synthesized as the "half" influence?

[next epoch]

Fractured/Synthesised, yes. Those pseudo-influences don't add weights to any mods, but prevent any other influence from being applied to the item

[sharp iron]

Makes sense

[next epoch]

It'd be especially weird to have 8+ influences, when 6 of them are all attached to mechanics from expansions that have been rotated out

[sharp iron]

I believe every "of the atlas" expansion since War has done something with influences though.

War of the Atlas: Introduced them
Conquerors of the Atlas: Added 4 more, as well as double-influenced items
Echoes of the Atlas: Added Mavens orbs to Elevate the affixes

I feel this expansion ought to do something with influenced items

Okay, here's an alternative theory. The revealed currency orbs function like their normal orbs, but for influences rather than modifiers.

Influenced Chaos: Re-rolls item's influence types.

Influenced Exalted: Adds random new influence type to turn single-influenced into double-influenced

Influenced Annulment: Removes influence type (perhaps with another upside, since I don't see a situation you'd really want that which isn't a once-in-a-career rarity).

[tawny pasture]

influenced exalt would act as the woke orb ? nah

[sharp iron]

Woke orb is controlled. This is randomized.

[tawny pasture]

even

[sharp iron]

And woke orb adds another modifier too, I believe

[next epoch]

We've already got conqueror exalts, though. And they're kinda trash imo

[violet nymph]

Considering these orbs aren't league currency. They would be in replacement of the conc currency drops systems wise. Which means they would be updated immediately unlike for example the tainted orbs.

[slow coyote]

Who says they're a replacement for anything? All we know is what the artwork for them is.

[exotic forum]

im still kinda holding out for it being Harvest Augmented Chaos/Exalted/Annulment orbs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/175005585203396622/935714926792671252/Screenshot_20220125-205815_Discord.jpg

^

Uses the harvest craft, makes it easily tradeable using existing systems, and makes the pre-nerf crafts require the respective currency

[neat rover]

bex already confirmed its not

with gif...

[exotic forum]

idk, bex might be wrong

🙃