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muted birch Oct 25, 2021, 12:40 PM

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I see, thanks for explaining @indigo wolf

dim nova Oct 25, 2021, 1:09 PM

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I’ve seen boss areas with Scourge monsters. It made going to Scourge dimension useful if I was running out of flasks or life

bright aspen Oct 25, 2021, 1:26 PM

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Found the boss in scourge mode twice today. Apparently he always drops a unique with tier 3 scourge mods

distant hearth Oct 25, 2021, 1:56 PM

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😄

low forum Oct 25, 2021, 2:10 PM

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monkaS for someone 😄

steel plinth Oct 25, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Does anyone experience sudden ping spikes in maps?

hollow osprey Oct 25, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Scourge feels like the opposite of Expedition

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People hated Expedition for the nerfs but the League itself was fun

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Scourge was hyped for the QoL but the league itself is... Shit

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Like dude I like the Krangleverse

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But not krangling my items

quaint topaz Oct 25, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Yep essentially

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Atleast ignoring scourge will be easier than ignoring all the nerfs of last league

quaint topaz Oct 25, 2021, 2:36 PM

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bright aspen Found the boss in scourge mode twice today. Apparently he always drops a unique ...

I got a bramblejack :)

timid echo Oct 25, 2021, 2:37 PM

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how come I can't post a picture?

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of an item

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I had a question about a modifier

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that is on it

vernal isle Oct 25, 2021, 3:03 PM

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krangle league too good, servers overloaded

runic zephyr Oct 25, 2021, 3:44 PM

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blood in crucible = amount of stacks?

vernal isle Oct 25, 2021, 3:49 PM

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runic zephyr blood in crucible = amount of stacks?

my guess is blood in the crucible means the bar that you fill up to shift into it

prisma charm Oct 25, 2021, 4:46 PM

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I like how you can skip getting trials entirely by just finding a lab key from past league content

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Uber lab b4 yellow maps

dim nova Oct 25, 2021, 5:27 PM

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You don’t have to do any trials in maps

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It’s very nice

hollow delta Oct 25, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Yo guys. Anyone lagging like mad?

tawdry herald Oct 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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why go maps take so long to scourge?

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like goddamn

rare rose Oct 25, 2021, 5:49 PM

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tawdry herald why go maps take so long to scourge?

Yeah, scourge t1 on maps should take 2 maps at most.. then scale up a lot after that

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they are trying to keep juicers from breaking the economy, but not letting non-juicers have a little fun

vernal isle Oct 25, 2021, 5:54 PM

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sheesh
gonna have to get a second character with passive tankiness to actually do krangle in maps :D

100ms lag = rip

vagrant hazel Oct 25, 2021, 5:55 PM

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Or just play minions, kek

distant hearth Oct 25, 2021, 5:55 PM

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tawdry herald why go maps take so long to scourge?

maybe the level of the monsters you kill impact the rapidity of the "scourging", try to kill high level monsters

vernal isle Oct 25, 2021, 5:56 PM

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vagrant hazel Or just play minions, kek

I heard minions were nerfed?

vagrant hazel Oct 25, 2021, 6:00 PM

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vernal isle I heard minions were nerfed?

Doesn't really feel like it, im clearing t15's like butter atm

vernal isle Oct 25, 2021, 6:00 PM

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is it high budget?

vagrant hazel Oct 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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I've prob spent like 6 ex on this so far

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most expensive is the jewels

indigo wolf Oct 25, 2021, 6:13 PM

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I don't think minions were nerfed directly, but you can't invest in them as much due to the changes in aura (especially aura effect stat)

violet nymph Oct 25, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Hows flicker strike looking this league

bitter plaza Oct 25, 2021, 6:28 PM

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This is how I'm doing so far on Scourge league. https://youtu.be/evw-8IoKWl4

crisp tree Oct 25, 2021, 6:36 PM

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chrisThinking

rose pasture Oct 25, 2021, 6:36 PM

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vernal isle I heard minions were nerfed?

Check poeninja. Only skellies left. Rest are <1%

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Definitely not nerfed templarLul

fallen terrace Oct 25, 2021, 7:28 PM

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i gotta say it's hard to get basic currencies this league

pure pasture Oct 25, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Hey guys!!

I heard that the timer should stop when you encounter a Scourge boss..
Sooo, I found a few Scourge bosses now, but not a single time has the timer stopped...
What am I doing wrong?

violet nymph Oct 25, 2021, 7:34 PM

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Is Arakaali's Fang meta now or some shit? Since when is it 4ex 3 days after league start?

crisp tree Oct 25, 2021, 7:35 PM

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its rare

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last league was easy to get with Gwennen and got "buffed" with The Squire shield

violet nymph Oct 25, 2021, 7:37 PM

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ok fair. I've just always picked one up early on for like 1ex, now it's 4 😦

languid river Oct 25, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Think I shouldnt try for krangle lvl 3 no?

carmine canopy Oct 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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honestly I wouldn't risk it

hoary berry Oct 25, 2021, 8:46 PM

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do scourge monsters spawn in incursions?

vocal echo Oct 25, 2021, 10:05 PM

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can't activate scourge in map incursions at least, but i'd expect maybe in the temple map?

violet nymph Oct 25, 2021, 10:26 PM

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i defended this game so much in the last league, lost about 20k karma on reddit for it. But now even I am disappointed... I play this game for the lootsplosions. This league sucks.

crisp tree Oct 25, 2021, 10:37 PM

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what

thorn cove Oct 25, 2021, 10:40 PM

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guyyys

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alva wants to kidnap me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/189493061687050250/902325158063247410/unknown.png

split cliff Oct 25, 2021, 10:41 PM

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Is there a trick to getting 6L from 15% add link, must have transformed atleast 80 times now, maybe its just very rare

indigo wolf Oct 25, 2021, 10:47 PM

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I heard it only works for 5+1, not any other combination of 6 sockets (e.g. 3+3)

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The explanation being it works kind of like tainted fusing, where it adds one link to the largest link group, rather than adding a link independent of how large those groups are

runic zephyr Oct 25, 2021, 10:48 PM

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do scourge bosses have any loot worth killing them for? or just double scourged uniques

prisma charm Oct 25, 2021, 10:51 PM

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I was told there aren’t any league specific uniques this go round, which would lead to that answer being no

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Just a loot explosion

runic zephyr Oct 25, 2021, 10:55 PM

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explosion... more like a small firecracker of loot xd

native osprey Oct 25, 2021, 11:01 PM

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https://twitter.com/rainbabe42/status/1452478312752697347

Rainbabe42 (@rainbabe42)

For those who are doing challenges for recipe in Scourge league
Wicked Weapon = Vendor 1x Unique rustic belt + a normal / blue weapon + blacksmith whetstone
Exile ring = Vendor Tier 3 chaos resist on a ring + 1x augment orb + Amethyst Flask

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native osprey Oct 25, 2021, 11:01 PM

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native osprey https://twitter.com/rainbabe42/status/1452478312752697347

carmine canopy Oct 25, 2021, 11:09 PM

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thanks

livid apex Oct 25, 2021, 11:18 PM

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...is there a way to find those out ingame lmao

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"hey do this thing that is entirely unapparent to you that you will only find out through third party means"

mellow shell Oct 25, 2021, 11:20 PM

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native osprey https://twitter.com/rainbabe42/status/1452478312752697347

Thank you, could find them by the life of me!

native osprey Oct 25, 2021, 11:21 PM

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livid apex ...is there a way to find those out ingame lmao

CL5_PepoNope

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recipes are meant to be secret

golden marten Oct 25, 2021, 11:23 PM

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I dropped a tainted exalt in act 5, and nobody seems to be buying them on trade - any idea what they're worth?

mellow shell Oct 25, 2021, 11:27 PM

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golden marten I dropped a tainted exalt in act 5, and nobody seems to be buying them on trade ...

There's probably no demand right now so just wait till the price is good, it'll go up later in the league.

carmine canopy Oct 25, 2021, 11:37 PM

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I got my first regular exalt in Act 6

mellow shell Oct 25, 2021, 11:38 PM

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carmine canopy I got my first regular exalt in Act 6

I got mine in a logbook last league. rogchamp drop because I got three drop in one chest lmao

carmine canopy Oct 25, 2021, 11:38 PM

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just zipping down the western forest when I decide to yeet an explosive concoction at a white pack at the end of the screen and they dropped it

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it was a nice surprise

mellow shell Oct 25, 2021, 11:39 PM

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but if I discuss my experience with exalts in detail I'll move to a different channel.

neon magnet Oct 26, 2021, 12:19 AM

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The lag is real

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Anyway to improve it, im on ethernet

violet nymph Oct 26, 2021, 12:25 AM

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yo, where do you find the Phys Damage Multi craft? Can't find it anywhere

light hatch Oct 26, 2021, 12:26 AM

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https://gfycat.com/GreedyDapperCaimanlizard "Energy Blade is a shit skill don't league start with it" 🚎

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austere tulip Oct 26, 2021, 12:32 AM

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How expensive

light hatch Oct 26, 2021, 12:33 AM

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probably 1.5ex

austere tulip Oct 26, 2021, 12:34 AM

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What tier was that

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I was wanting to start energy blade for consoles in a few days but I never saw anything decent

light hatch Oct 26, 2021, 12:36 AM

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4

sacred gate Oct 26, 2021, 12:46 AM

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tfw it's way less efficient to get corruption stacks on scourge maps because you don't control when you go into nightmare.
I refuse to believe they've tested this league more than a few days :/

proper widget Oct 26, 2021, 1:41 AM

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wdym

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put bestiary on it and be more strategic about your usage

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i get 300 stacks on nightmare on rare maps in yellow tier

wintry otter Oct 26, 2021, 3:00 AM

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I'm leaning on starting on ps4 too either on Energy Blade Static Strike smth, or tecslam ignite, if that's a thing. Is EB a decent skill?

mild ingot Oct 26, 2021, 3:25 AM

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what is the best single target melee skill for EB?

sick path Oct 26, 2021, 3:42 AM

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Does an conq exa force higher tier? no, right?

austere roost Oct 26, 2021, 4:14 AM

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anyone know where to get multi mod rn?

crisp tree Oct 26, 2021, 4:20 AM

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check crafting bench

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 4:51 AM

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sick path Does an conq exa force higher tier? no, right?

no, but it's guaranteed to add an influenced modifier for the influence it added, e.g. a warlord exalt will always add a warlord affix

sick path Oct 26, 2021, 4:52 AM

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next epoch no, but it's guaranteed to add an influenced modifier for the influence it added...

kk, so if i'm down to one mod option i just have to pray for the high tier

random inlet Oct 26, 2021, 5:01 AM

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I was live searching for a cheap Cold Iron point and there's this one that keeps popping up with -2 level of all spell from scourge . I always laugh when it appears

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 5:03 AM

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Lukewarm Iron Point

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 5:12 AM

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So what do you think about Scourge so far?

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The mechanic isn't that enjoyable for me, tbh... But the reworks, updates and all make the game far more fun!

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 5:32 AM

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I like the general concept, but the risk-to-reward tuning needs some work. Negative scourge corruptions on items are a lot worse than the positive ones

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Also, tainted currency feels like an unnecessary break of the "corrupted means it can't be crafted on" rule

livid apex Oct 26, 2021, 6:07 AM

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Core game improvements can carry the league, which is fortunate

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Mechanic of swapping over feels nice but rewards are Big Iffy and there’s dumb unreadable oneshots

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Oh yeah. Also, the rare item drops from hellscape monsters are basically garbage

lilac saffron Oct 26, 2021, 6:22 AM

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next epoch Also, tainted currency feels like an unnecessary break of the "corrupted means i...

I think its fine for stuff like quality/blessings, currency that modifies affixes is a bit meh design imo

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 6:24 AM

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On a different note, Scourge feels like the writers went on break for a league. Not that they don't deserve it after all the work in Expedition

violet nymph Oct 26, 2021, 6:38 AM

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Anyone have any good lightning witch builds I can follow? Nothing online I've found that I like. I'm kinda doing okay so far but I feel like i'm going to fall off. I predominately play with friends

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:39 AM

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@next epoch We need a new crafting league ✊

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For real tho if we follow general PoE themes and order

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Lore leagues are sorta sandwiched between non lore ones

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I was excited with this "What if Kitava won" at first, tho

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 6:42 AM

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real ingot I was excited with this "What if Kitava won" at first, tho

It's a good starting point but they didn't really go anywhere with it

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:42 AM

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As for the risk reward of scourge, the issue I see can be applied to general crafting

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"high end" doesn't matter since they have just larger pools, not better

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Like getting an ilvl 80 weapon just to see a tier 8 mod on it

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Combine that with the painfully long time it takes to transform an item, as well as the hard cap there is to it... And you get a mechanic that feels useless

lilac saffron Oct 26, 2021, 6:45 AM

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real ingot I was excited with this "What if Kitava won" at first, tho

Isnt this the point of the league?

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Kitava always wins

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Blesses you with -60 res

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:46 AM

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I mean we don't quite see that much lore

lilac saffron Oct 26, 2021, 6:46 AM

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But this time he doubles down

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:46 AM

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For scourge I mean

lilac saffron Oct 26, 2021, 6:46 AM

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Ye not much lore

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:46 AM

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As for the mechanic it's also VERY shitty how the good roll can be outright cancelled by the bad roll

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 6:47 AM

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real ingot As for the mechanic it's also VERY shitty how the good roll can be outright canc...

There's just too many negative modifiers that amount to "the item is ruined, ha ha, fuck you"

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:47 AM

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Like "lightning damage is lucky No lightning damage" or smth like that

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The issue is the amount of modifiers that outright eat the good mod alive

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Like, imagine getting -30 to one ele res and plus 30 to another in an item

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It feels... Pointless

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 6:49 AM

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The resistance modifiers just feel really boring tbh

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:50 AM

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They are

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We got rings for that

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I'm afraid Scourge isn't Core material until the mod pool gets sorted out

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 6:51 AM

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Like someone had to come up with twenty new corruption implicits before lunch

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:51 AM

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Or like, at least remove the tier hard caps

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To avoid permanent bricking at least

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:52 AM

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next epoch Like someone had to come up with twenty new corruption implicits before lunch

Must have been hungry

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 6:52 AM

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Hungry like Kitava

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Well, I sorta like scourge as far ad encounters go

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Shifting to another dimension to kill shit

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Breach meets Abyss meets ???

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Even if I'm not a big fan of "Ohhh look them big monsters are everywhere, look out they can hit harddd!"

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I would like to see next league play a more... Intricate system

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Like a puzzle, idk

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Fuck it, just make a league where you gotta beat Doom for loot

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Welp, I'm gonna keep waiting to see GGG make selfcast fun

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Lightning tendrils gang... Wee...

next epoch Oct 26, 2021, 6:59 AM

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real ingot Like a puzzle, idk

"Kitava has spread monsters throughout Wraeclast guarding treasure! To defeat them, you must answer pop culture trivia questions!"

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 7:01 AM

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Bruh

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I mean like

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Play fucking tetris

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I would unironically play that lmao

teal atlas Oct 26, 2021, 7:35 AM

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Does anyone know the new map that has the boss "The Cleansing Light"? It's no longer Basilica and I can't use my Mentor Prophecy. If anyone could just type in "The Cleansing Light" into the Atlas and let me know if any map highlights, that would be super helpful!

distant hearth Oct 26, 2021, 8:22 AM

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languid river Think I shouldnt try for krangle lvl 3 no?

Scourge tier 3 only if your scourge 2 mods completely ruin your item, that's the scourgy rule

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Otherwise consider trading, could be useful for someone else

patent zinc Oct 26, 2021, 9:55 AM

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teal atlas Does anyone know the new map that has the boss "The Cleansing Light"? It's no lo...

u trying to proc prophecy?

fluid bolt Oct 26, 2021, 10:30 AM

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Hi, I've made a guide/tips video for all scourge challenges
Check it out and let me know how You like it.
(If this do not belong here, please let me know and I will post it elsewhere)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUEwbezCwf0

rocky nebula Oct 26, 2021, 11:44 AM

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Very nice. I was looking for a video about it and couldn't find one.

patent zinc Oct 26, 2021, 12:25 PM

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there's a scourge boss in every map?

small wigeon Oct 26, 2021, 12:45 PM

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how do you unlock 2nd map scourge slot?

vapid falcon Oct 26, 2021, 12:47 PM

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small wigeon how do you unlock 2nd map scourge slot?

bottom left skill point unlocks it

tired spindle Oct 26, 2021, 1:02 PM

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did they remove all the chance to cause bleeding from the tree? how do you cause bleeding now?

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 1:08 PM

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bleed gems, a sword base, like 2 clusters on tree that give chance to bleed

ashen coyote Oct 26, 2021, 1:12 PM

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anyone know where i can find an updated list of blood altar flask mods?

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nvm, finally found it

wraith badger Oct 26, 2021, 1:27 PM

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for the scourge linking thing does it work if i have 3link 3link or do i need to have 5 l to make it a 6l ?

tired spindle Oct 26, 2021, 2:04 PM

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3 link 3 link should work

wintry otter Oct 26, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Tainted fusing don't

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For tainted fuses it has to be a 5+1 for a chance to 6L

sage tendon Oct 26, 2021, 2:31 PM

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If u upgrade an scourge corrupted item via prophecy, does that work? and does it keep the mods on it ?

devout osprey Oct 26, 2021, 2:31 PM

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dont think u can upgrade corrupted prophecy items

distant hearth Oct 26, 2021, 3:08 PM

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another scourged mess from global chat

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I like the league so far, it's fun 😄

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dangerous and rewarded with a slap in your face 😀

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I mean it's not always a slap in the face, but there's some funny outcome for sure

violet nymph Oct 26, 2021, 3:37 PM

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distant hearth another scourged mess from global chat

Ouch

distant hearth Oct 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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violet nymph Ouch

At least he got the stun and block recovery covered 😀 safety first

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Anyone else having trouble surviving as an armor based build in higher map scourges? I notice when im running 8-9 maps once I reach about 50 stacks it’s generally a bad idea to go into scourge.

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 3:52 PM

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What other forms of defense do you have?

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Block? Suppression? Recovery?

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I’m not pure armor, but run a mix of armor/evasion/suppression and do still have situations where I can get chunked pretty hard, but rarely is it actually a 1shot. If you’re having trouble with getting swarmed, that’s more a speed/dam/clear issue than defenses

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I’ll be adding block to my layers once I go dual wield

pseudo snow Oct 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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ok, I keep dying in scourge to some sort of giant black orb spell/attack. what the hell is killing me and how do I stop it?

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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I think that’s effectively just a slam to move away from

pseudo snow Oct 26, 2021, 3:57 PM

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it's almost instant! 😦

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 3:58 PM

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Honestly that’s one I haven’t really paid much attention to. I’ve seen it, but I’m always moving forward, I don’t think its been an issue for me

trim horizon Oct 26, 2021, 3:59 PM

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For some reason can't complete hideout clear monsters when they are cleared ? Is it a bug ?

pseudo snow Oct 26, 2021, 4:00 PM

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I'm cyclone, it may just be a lot riskier for me. pretty sure I'm gonna roll up a DD character though cos I feel like I want a lot more spell mitigation.

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 4:03 PM

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prisma charm What other forms of defense do you have?

I just have armor and block atm, you think stacking evasion is the answer? My health pool is ok I feel, which is 4.6k. I also notice I die more if I have Bloodrage up but Ive also died without having bloodrage on.

dire pawn Oct 26, 2021, 4:04 PM

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if you dont have phasing youre ruined

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just get jammed on mobs and die

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:04 PM

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Evasion isn’t necessary

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4.6k is what I run, but I’m also using that new low life aura

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That takes a percentage of the dam and translates it into damage over time

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 4:06 PM

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I might try that

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Thank you

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Ideally I want closer to 5.5k

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But I’m only 81

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I kinda feel like atm I’m really just being carried by damage, if things weren’t dead I probably wouldn’t be tanky enough

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Yeah I dont have the best gear, saving up for a big upgrade.

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:09 PM

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What build are you runnin?

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Ice crash zerker

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Dying feels especially bad cause you gotta build up rage stacks but once you get goin, it’s fun as hell

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:11 PM

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I started this league with generals cry crush zerker, just wasn’t feeling it

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Had survivability issues in yellow maps, wasn’t really doing good dam, didn’t like how the dam was delayed,

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A lot of the problem was gear related, but it just felt like I had to put in so much effort paying attention to all the different layers of the build

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Steel champ I just press 2 buttons plus mobility

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One to do initial dam, second to clear the screen

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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You are describing my issues rn. Except i dont feel like my dam is lackluster. I def feel the lack of survivability on yellow maps

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Feel like the aura will help tho, and when I get my neck I get really good leech

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:15 PM

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The aura feels almost op

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 4:15 PM

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I agree tho Zerker just doesnt feel like it meshes well with a mechanic that you are eventually gonna take more damage the more you do it

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:16 PM

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It gives you overleech + life reserve auras

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As a champ it allows me to keep adrenaline up 100% of the time by simply popping a health flask when it fades

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Thing is, zerker brings the dam. If it’s dead, it’s not hitting you

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The whole point of zerker is to do massive dam

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I haven’t done ice crash since it’s first league, so can’t really comment there

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It’s somewhat of a slower skill right?

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It hits, then radiates out in steps

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Kinda yea

tired spindle Oct 26, 2021, 4:21 PM

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what kinds of build actually excel at the league mechanic? im struggling to find something that feels good to go into the upside down with

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:21 PM

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Well, this steel champ build is cruising with a temp est atm, but I’m not in red maps yet

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Anything with massive screen clear and speed is going to do well

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Whats the name of that aura?

dire pawn Oct 26, 2021, 4:24 PM

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Anyone here used DN this league?

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 4:24 PM

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Nop

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🙂

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:26 PM

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I can’t remember

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Petrified blood

real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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Okay so

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Tentonaxe/characters

Path of Exile

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real ingot Oct 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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Why the F word is Tier 3 objectively worse than Tier 2?

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Why didn't they tweak it better

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:28 PM

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I need to fix my flasks

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Been lazy

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But that kinda shows just how absurd the clear is atm, haven’t needed to bother with defenses much, and I’m even running 5link effectively atm due to not having -mana and using lifetap rather than gmp

sage breach Oct 26, 2021, 4:29 PM

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prisma charm Petrified blood

Thanks!

tired spindle Oct 26, 2021, 4:35 PM

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does spellslinger work with tornado or will it keep refreshing the tornado before it can go out to deal damage?

livid lake Oct 26, 2021, 4:44 PM

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the latter

tired spindle Oct 26, 2021, 4:52 PM

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dang

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Hah

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I’m not even using my 5l in terminus est

rotund locust Oct 26, 2021, 4:57 PM

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can i post meme items here?

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Failed scourge items? Sure

rotund locust Oct 26, 2021, 4:57 PM

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bot failed its just a random drop

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but i teared up

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prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 4:58 PM

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At least it didn’t brick a good item

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😂

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I’m mostly using the mechanic to supply my chaos recipe tabs with amulets

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Haven’t really had any great results

shut magnet Oct 26, 2021, 5:24 PM

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"Randomly shift into nightmare" + "Monsters can't be stunned" on high maps might as well read "Your character dies at random times".

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 5:27 PM

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it prevents stun on shifting?

shut magnet Oct 26, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Seems to

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 5:27 PM

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sounds like an oversight

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personally I want 3 seconds of stun to accomodate my lag on shift

shut magnet Oct 26, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Running along minding my own business, random nightmare shift happens and I'm dead on what felt like that frame and nothing looked stunned

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I don't hit lag/performance issues on shifts because my machine is OP, so it wasn't that for me

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 5:29 PM

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by the way, recently thinking on potential atlas tree options that don't make content more rewarding, but less rippy instead

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I bet there's be some demand for "Portal Disruption: Intervention assassins are stunned for 1 second on arrival"

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Well, the problem is… it’s hard to not make it more rewarding while also not making it impossible without buying maps

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Since… the thing you need to run maps itself is a very sellable item

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The way you make the atlas easier is by taking out watch stones, which inherently caps the rewards too

indigo wolf Oct 26, 2021, 5:41 PM

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vernal isle I bet there's be some demand for "Portal Disruption: Intervention assassins are ...

Eh, for that to have much value, every other option that improves rewards would also have to be removed.
I guess it would have some value for middle-scale players who don't play enough to produce a 5, 10M DPS build.
But you'd still need to include options that improve rewards and increase risk for the ones that do.
And even middle scale players will continue pushing for most DPS possible (because faster clearing is like a more multiplier on rewards).
And we're back to scaling the game against the top 1% of players.

pastel dirge Oct 26, 2021, 5:41 PM

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hey i'm champion supp and my friend is playing tornado shot ballista poison what link should we use ?

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Are you stacking block? Use the link that gives your buddy your block

pastel dirge Oct 26, 2021, 5:44 PM

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i'm not

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 5:44 PM

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indigo wolf Eh, for that to have much value, every other option that improves rewards would ...

Yeah, I am talking about the middle-scalers. I don't expect the 1 percenters to take even one of those options, but they wouldn't be for them anyway

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 5:57 PM

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It’s… people want the best rewards, and feel forced into content that is too difficult for them to obtain them

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But… there’s nothing forcing anyone to play at that level, you can earn currency and buy stuff from 84+ without leaving white maps,

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Why would they need to, give the player a way to make things easier when the player could just, not make things harder

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I purpose keep watchstone unsocketed at times to keep at a specific difficulty until I’m able to improve my gear for example

reef sparrow Oct 26, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Hi, is the quality Effect of Energy Blade to get additional Critical Strike Chance an local bonus or an added chance?

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 6:12 PM

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I would assume that means it’s an “increased crit” modifier on any ability affected by the energy blades buff

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But…

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I’m unsure

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A 10% more additive to the base crit would be rediculous

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To the point of using it with almost no es just for the crit

reef sparrow Oct 26, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Wouldn´t go so far as to say that its usable whitout es but it would be much better!

dark void Oct 26, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Anyone Looking to buy a Locus of Corruption?

reef sparrow Oct 26, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Did try it out and it looked like the Weapon has the mod. X% increased Critical Strike Chance as Prefix.

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 6:20 PM

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prisma charm It’s… people want the best rewards, and feel forced into content that is too dif...

Well, to use me as an example, it's not so much difficulty of content/size of rewards that I want, it's type

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so for example I want to do scourge or betrayal, but it's also the kind of content where you can die from a lag spike easier than in other content, and is also susceptible to lag spikes

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Ah

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That’s definitely an area that messes with me, I’d love to just farm delves, but, I can’t without interacting with trade, for example

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The game doesn’t make that easy to understand

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 6:22 PM

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I'd just love GGG to own up to what seems like a well-known fact to me: that their game is not optimized in the best way in relation to their players' computers/connections

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Or easy to see the ROI of buying scarabs to get sulphite

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Hmm… I don’t have a comment on the PC spec issue

reef sparrow Oct 26, 2021, 6:23 PM

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I conclude Energy Blade Quality is a local Mod for the weapon and should work quite well to scale Crit! Just for anyone wondering.

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 6:23 PM

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funny enough, I'm on the other side of delves than most people seem to be

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I would rather map

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 6:24 PM

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I just like smashing enemies constantly, not having to pick up loot on the way is just much more fun

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Maps could technically have that, loot drops when you kill the boss, but having all the loot from a map deleted because you can’t complete it, along with the map…

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I mean, that’s how delve works, but you can’t sell sulphite

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So it’s less loss

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Or you backtrack and loot later, provided you didn't use up all portals

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Delirium kinda forces that anyway

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Maybe…

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Add a toggle in the map device

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Loot drops at end or during

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 6:27 PM

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because you gotta zoomzoom along wwith the fog, no time to pick up stuff

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ha
imagine if the lootsplosion went directly into your hideout

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 6:29 PM

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Yeah, at the top end of juiced maps, having everything drop at the end would be insane

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🤷 I don’t really know how to remedy that issue

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Picking up loot at the end would likely end up even slower than looting on the way

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If it was all stacked there

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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I do love how temples can now be itemized

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Yes

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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if I built a shit temple, I can just toss it into the "sell later in bulk" pile

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or run later in bulk, I guess

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Now do it with Sirius

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So I can just hold off on fighting him till I have the gear

vernal isle Oct 26, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Now if I could sell compressed sulphite too instead of only the scarabs, I'd be a happy camper

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I wonder if Betrayal could be itemized too, and if so, in what way. "Intelligence bundles" for Mastermind?

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Doesn't build your board for you, though, so of limited use

livid birch Oct 26, 2021, 6:34 PM

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if a scronch reduces gem level does it also decrease mana cost or not

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 6:34 PM

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Should

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Just like how increasing increases

livid birch Oct 26, 2021, 6:35 PM

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k

wintry otter Oct 26, 2021, 7:09 PM

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vernal isle I'd just love GGG to own up to what seems like a well-known fact to me: that the...

So much yes! I've got a reasonably still ok 6700k and a RX480 combo, it was ok until 3.14 hit. ultimatum was a lag-death on occasion already, but Expedition completely killed any hopes of reaching yellow maps even. More than 30 monsters on the screen, lag-freeze-dead

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Seems fine to me

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On a i7 4770k and 1080ti

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Not particularly new equipment

wintry otter Oct 26, 2021, 7:21 PM

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1080ti is carrying your 4770k hard

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The 1080Ti would probably last me another 2 years easily on PoE, on max settings lol

terse cape Oct 26, 2021, 8:54 PM

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So, I am curious if anyone has found a way to make the skill "Dual Strike" actually work. I occasionally try to figure a way to make it work, but every league I always look at it and think "double strike" just does it better. Has anyone done anything with that skill recently that worked beyond just meme quality stuff?

indigo wolf Oct 26, 2021, 8:56 PM

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Meanwhile: Me, with an i5 and a 1060

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Only time I had framerate problems was trying a storm brand assassin + inpulsa a few leagues ago

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Not to say I run on high graphics, though

lusty tulip Oct 26, 2021, 9:42 PM

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Life flaskn't

carmine canopy Oct 26, 2021, 9:45 PM

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You cannot get ye flask

limpid hemlock Oct 26, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Schrodingers Challenge

timber ermine Oct 26, 2021, 10:33 PM

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best inquisitior build for heist 3.16?

agile cedar Oct 26, 2021, 10:46 PM

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i wish we could corrupt more items, like scourge flasks or gems would be really cool

prisma charm Oct 26, 2021, 11:11 PM

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vaal dual strike was amazing one league, don't see why it still wouldn't be at least decent atm

sweet ether Oct 27, 2021, 12:21 AM

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yo how do i unlock the 2nd map slot in my crucible?

blissful onyx Oct 27, 2021, 12:22 AM

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With skill points

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Oh the second one is a boss I think?

sweet ether Oct 27, 2021, 12:23 AM

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ive killed 2 different bosses

crisp tree Oct 27, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Killing bosses, rng drop

limpid hemlock Oct 27, 2021, 1:09 AM

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lvl 86 on red maps and still havent found a trial of ascendency

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what to do man....

crisp tree Oct 27, 2021, 1:11 AM

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buy a offering?

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 1:22 AM

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Any1 have thoughts on ARC vs Ball lightning for patch 3.16? And I wish there was an updated guide for Ball lightning, it looks stronger/more fun but the tree has changed

limpid hemlock Oct 27, 2021, 1:25 AM

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crisp tree buy a offering?

havent even found a trial to complete, so offering wont open it

crisp tree Oct 27, 2021, 1:49 AM

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limpid hemlock havent even found a trial to complete, so offering wont open it

Accessing the Eternal Labyrinth no longer requires the completion of Trials of Ascendancy found in Maps, only the completion of previous Labyrinths. It still costs one Offering to the Goddess to access.

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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3186390#labyrinthchanges

maiden sluice Oct 27, 2021, 1:50 AM

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Hello I just got this one, any good? Haven't seen this implicit mod before

limpid hemlock Oct 27, 2021, 1:51 AM

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crisp tree > Accessing the Eternal Labyrinth no longer requires the completion of Trials of...

glooks

dense summit Oct 27, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Has anyone noticed some mobs not getting stunned on phasing into krangleverse?

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I'm looking at a Massive blue pack in my BA run where two or three of the ones right next to me didn't get stunned but others did

slim forum Oct 27, 2021, 2:32 AM

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anyone else feel like scourge is not rewarding enough for its difficulty?

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 2:41 AM

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pretty much

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cool

next epoch Oct 27, 2021, 2:50 AM

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maiden sluice Hello I just got this one, any good? Haven't seen this implicit mod before

Increased reservation efficiency is new. It's similar to reduced mana reservation, but doesn't get as ridiculous when you stack it

maiden sluice Oct 27, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Ah

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thank you

real ingot Oct 27, 2021, 2:53 AM

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Yeah

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Still very good to have tho

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100% efficiency halves your aura reservations

keen hornet Oct 27, 2021, 4:48 AM

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I think ill play it safe and keep it at scourge 1

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 5:32 AM

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maiden sluice Hello I just got this one, any good? Haven't seen this implicit mod before

I had the exact same gem and sold it for 100c

maiden sluice Oct 27, 2021, 5:40 AM

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Oh

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I just sold mine for 2 ex

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not bad

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 6:08 AM

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when you do "one more elderslayer" and the map has legion, harvest, and excavation in it

viscid tulip Oct 27, 2021, 6:39 AM

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Scourge vacuum when

glad mauve Oct 27, 2021, 7:28 AM

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yo i have a scourged map

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that adds -20% Movement speed per tier

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what happens if it goes over 100%

proper widget Oct 27, 2021, 7:29 AM

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u can have negative ms

glad mauve Oct 27, 2021, 7:29 AM

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yeah but i mean

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does it literally stop me from moving

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or just makes me really slow

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is there a minimum ms it cant go below

proper widget Oct 27, 2021, 7:31 AM

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dont remember if the base ms is 100% or 0%

distant hearth Oct 27, 2021, 8:43 AM

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slim forum anyone else feel like scourge is not rewarding enough for its difficulty?

I like this league, it's a bit mercyless, there's rarely an happy end, I either get too ambitious and die, or get a scourged item giving me the middle finger 😄

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Scourge is a monster slaughter at first, then after a good stack of whatever it's called, it's more like a survival challenge :)

proper widget Oct 27, 2021, 8:48 AM

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not a whole lot going on in the scourge drops but u get map drops and stuff from them

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if u juice ur maps and play scourge right u get a good amount of extra stuff

distant hearth Oct 27, 2021, 8:49 AM

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After all it's a kind of hellish world with Demons, I would be disappointed if it was holding my hand

quaint gull Oct 27, 2021, 10:46 AM

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does tainted chromatic reforges the colours and ignores the attribute requirements?

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because i feel like it does but im not sure

tawny pasture Oct 27, 2021, 10:54 AM

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It does ignore

jade crest Oct 27, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Any1 having issues with the lootfilter? I've tried updating it in filterblade but the problem persists

carmine canopy Oct 27, 2021, 11:31 AM

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It's a thing that happens every so often

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it's got nothing to do with the loot filter

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It happens with div cards sometimes on my end

jade crest Oct 27, 2021, 11:32 AM

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its happening a lot now so i figured i'd ask

mighty meteor Oct 27, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Took me 22 hours but I finally beat the acts with a 3 link Poisonous Concoction, 17 deaths, lots of league interactions and a temporary lapse in judgement. #1┃general message Link to a screenshot and link to my CURRENT build as of beating Kitava. Fun times

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 2:40 PM

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Often it feels like entering into the nightmare is a safety mechanism in some maps, the mobs there being less deadly… until I get upwards of 120 stacks

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The map drops from well scourged maps are really good

small wigeon Oct 27, 2021, 2:43 PM

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how do you find scourge bosses? i saw the lightning falling from the sky that indicates one of them, came back and forth around the area and just couldnt find him

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pretty annoying

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 2:44 PM

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they show up on the map no?

small wigeon Oct 27, 2021, 2:45 PM

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i was looking in the minimap and there was nothing

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😦

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 2:47 PM

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they might spawn out of range for minimap

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I just remember the one I got was shown on the full map kinda farish away

small wigeon Oct 27, 2021, 2:48 PM

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yea it was also that stupid map with the layout where u find the ankh for clarissa in act 8

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maybe he was in one of the boats

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but i checked the ones i could

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 2:48 PM

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port?

small wigeon Oct 27, 2021, 2:48 PM

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well, next time i guess

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 2:48 PM

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that map bad

small wigeon Oct 27, 2021, 2:48 PM

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yea

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 2:50 PM

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any tips on how to not die in scourges? i get regularly deleted without any warningas a raider with 80% eva and 100% spellsuppresion since i started doing t10+ maps

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Keep moving

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Aka don’t get hit enough to die

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At a certain point your stacks are so high that getting hit is going to kill you

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Particularly when you have extra dam or turbo map rolls

wide cobalt Oct 27, 2021, 3:25 PM

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Anyone have experience playing aurabot or a carry this league? Can't decide between champ aurabot and scion

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 3:28 PM

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can you use a divine orb on a militant faith if you need a different templar?

tawny pasture Oct 27, 2021, 3:29 PM

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yup

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 3:30 PM

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nice that's like 30c cheaper

tawny pasture Oct 27, 2021, 3:31 PM

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cheaper if you are lucky

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 3:33 PM

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well divines are really cheap right now

small wigeon Oct 27, 2021, 3:53 PM

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my map got "shifts randomly in and out of nightmare", if i keep scourging it does it change?

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i hate that modifier

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so much backtracking

pure blaze Oct 27, 2021, 3:53 PM

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Hey peeps

shut magnet Oct 27, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Scourged maps are absurd. I'm doing tier 16 maps safely, and I die more often than not doing white/yellow scourged maps, and I don't feel like I'm getting anything for it

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Someone want to trade maps for map completion? I am A8. 🙂

storm crown Oct 27, 2021, 4:47 PM

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wide cobalt Anyone have experience playing aurabot or a carry this league? Can't decide betw...

Champion gets more aura effect while scio get more passive points

fresh juniper Oct 27, 2021, 5:42 PM

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how can i learn this new language?

charred basin Oct 27, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Just starting this league havent played since harvest

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 5:49 PM

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The league itself probably isn’t the best, but a lot of the changes that came with it are great

oak hearth Oct 27, 2021, 5:53 PM

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Hey guys, any one can help with poison ? I play poisonius concoction, and idk how yo scale the build, if someone know a streamer, pastbin or just some tips, i'll take ! :)

charred basin Oct 27, 2021, 5:53 PM

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prisma charm The league itself probably isn’t the best, but a lot of the changes that came wi...

il try it out. i just kinda stopped playing poe when my guild went softcore.

light adder Oct 27, 2021, 5:57 PM

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oak hearth Hey guys, any one can help with poison ? I play poisonius concoction, and idk ho...

Think nugiyen is playing one, so check his stream, or the video for the build on zizarans channel

delicate pilot Oct 27, 2021, 6:18 PM

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can someone explain to me how im dropping t3 map from t15 map if i have all watchstones ?

indigo wolf Oct 27, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Was it a drop from a random monster or was it some kind of league content like metamorph?

delicate pilot Oct 27, 2021, 6:23 PM

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map boss

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 6:28 PM

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rng

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Have always been able to get lower maps from higher ones

delicate pilot Oct 27, 2021, 6:28 PM

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i guess but i cant drop maps atm

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run almost 15 maps and this is my only drop

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running out of 14-16's

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 6:29 PM

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I’d try to get a few “rare nightmare mobs drop maps” scourges

delicate pilot Oct 27, 2021, 6:30 PM

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oh good idea

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Out of 5 I’ve transformed so far, 2 have had that roll… but I may just be lucky

delicate pilot Oct 27, 2021, 6:30 PM

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i guess im madly unlucky with maps

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 6:30 PM

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But when I do, it drops a ton of maps

stuck sapphire Oct 27, 2021, 6:32 PM

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shifted into a roadblock and got stuck couldnt move at all lmao

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 6:40 PM

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That’s been happening a lot to me with leap

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But I can always leap back out the way I came

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Never shifted directly into one

carmine canopy Oct 27, 2021, 6:51 PM

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oh man TIL that Typophobia can add a socket to an item and Stitched Wounds can link it in the same transformation

empty geyser Oct 27, 2021, 6:52 PM

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anyone has some lvl gear for a late league starter?

white finch Oct 27, 2021, 7:09 PM

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meta predictions change after these few days of testing? Saboteur still the god tier starter?

median pine Oct 27, 2021, 7:19 PM

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boys do I start toxic rain or seismic trap?

violet nymph Oct 27, 2021, 7:22 PM

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median pine boys do I start toxic rain or seismic trap?

depends on what looks more fun to you. They are both starter builds

dense sail Oct 27, 2021, 8:05 PM

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how do u guys use the scourge thing. it sseems to only make junk for me

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i just been putting map in there only...

proper widget Oct 27, 2021, 8:06 PM

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6 socket uniques, u can fuse if it hits good

dense sail Oct 27, 2021, 8:06 PM

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hmm ok. thanks

white finch Oct 27, 2021, 8:39 PM

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New league start at 1:00 am on ps4 EU? I see that on the net but I have the maj now :/

prisma charm Oct 27, 2021, 10:24 PM

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The best use of scourge imo is getting map drops

real ingot Oct 27, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Kind of a shame Scourge has little to no real reward

fair aspen Oct 27, 2021, 11:01 PM

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hey, i need all these bricks to build a house. it's great!

real ingot Oct 27, 2021, 11:02 PM

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Look at this fucking joke

worldly sedge Oct 27, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Anyone playing Gen cry zerk, with bf?

burnt mantle Oct 27, 2021, 11:21 PM

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annyone looking for extras to fill 6 for delivium maps ?

hoary snow Oct 28, 2021, 12:13 AM

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real ingot Look at this fucking joke

just use an effect that converts fire to another damage type ||this is a joke||

scenic horizon Oct 28, 2021, 12:31 AM

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sadly can't get gems below level 1

nova harbor Oct 28, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Are the scourge challenges out yet?

lucid stone Oct 28, 2021, 2:19 AM

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So no improvement for scourge upsides?

nova harbor Oct 28, 2021, 2:19 AM

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If not then when

lucid stone Oct 28, 2021, 2:20 AM

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The more I look the worse it seems

nova harbor Oct 28, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Faxs

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I don't think the new challenges are even out yet idk

lucid stone Oct 28, 2021, 2:21 AM

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All the items I am seeing are either nullified by the downside or the downside is like 10x worse than the benefit of the upside

nova harbor Oct 28, 2021, 2:21 AM

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There are some good ones

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Ik that

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It's just quite difficult

lucid stone Oct 28, 2021, 2:24 AM

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The keystones on chests are cool tho

livid apex Oct 28, 2021, 2:44 AM

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weight 10 btw

limpid haven Oct 28, 2021, 2:48 AM

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im stupid how much is 1.4 ex

real ingot Oct 28, 2021, 2:55 AM

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The issue I have with scourge is that it's just a complicated, lenghty version of vaal orbs

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It's just too common to see straight downgrades and objectively useless upgrades

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That go beyond build niches

eager wraith Oct 28, 2021, 3:06 AM

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Hey all, do the tainted currencies have a stash tab or affinity?

real ingot Oct 28, 2021, 3:06 AM

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Nope

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Your best bet is using the universal slots on the currency stash

hexed lava Oct 28, 2021, 3:26 AM

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what the heck is up with rare prices

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life/resist gear is like 5-10c

eager wraith Oct 28, 2021, 3:27 AM

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real ingot Your best bet is using the universal slots on the currency stash

Ok thank you.

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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so what number of corruption stacks do you all stop at in a map? seems like more than 70 or so starts to get really hard.

runic dawn Oct 28, 2021, 3:50 AM

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hexed lava what the heck is up with rare prices

p sure currency values are inflated atm. im raining in currency personally so it makes sense their value is lower

lime fractal Oct 28, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Does this brick my skele mage build? or cant crit only for my char

runic dawn Oct 28, 2021, 3:52 AM

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celest hound so what number of corruption stacks do you all stop at in a map? seems like more...

roughly 80 is my cap anything higher and i start to get pretty close to insta dying

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 3:53 AM

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that tracks. I went yolo earlier and got to 127.

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that was... bad

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but I'm at that delightful point where it's still earlyin the league, I'm in maps, I have no currency, and my gear is ass.

lilac saffron Oct 28, 2021, 4:27 AM

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Vaal orbs are arguably less risky and more rewarding than scourging an item on average

restive anvil Oct 28, 2021, 4:27 AM

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@lime fractal should be fine

carmine canopy Oct 28, 2021, 4:28 AM

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so uh

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you know how it says Level 58+ Corruption Absorbed under the meter for how much krangle juice you got on an item?

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At least for maps that's uh

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not accurate

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at all

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because I got progress on this bar in Act 1

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granted it's not much but still

lilac saffron Oct 28, 2021, 4:50 AM

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I think its bugged

astral pumice Oct 28, 2021, 4:57 AM

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does scourging it to tier 2 reset tier 1 ?

restive anvil Oct 28, 2021, 5:37 AM

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What do you mean reset tier 1?

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Int he context of maps I've been told that maps tend to keep the mod but most other items in my experience will change

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Grimro's advice is if a map doesn't scourge a good mod (like rares drop something you want) then just scourge a different map to t1 vs. taking that to t2

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Once you have a map you want scourge it until you don't want to run it

patent zinc Oct 28, 2021, 8:37 AM

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scourging overwrites the previous scourge mods, if that's what u are asking

maiden coral Oct 28, 2021, 8:44 AM

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Can the Scourge reality spawn Beyond

patent zinc Oct 28, 2021, 8:56 AM

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can

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and they are still there after nightmare is over

wintry otter Oct 28, 2021, 9:51 AM

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patent zinc and they are still there after nightmare is over

Wow

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Hmm, krangles first couple items, nothing like getting +28 int req as a marauder lol

fossil nimbus Oct 28, 2021, 10:40 AM

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is there suggestion too ggg discord or channel?

indigo wolf Oct 28, 2021, 10:59 AM

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POE forums is likely the most direct way. They read reddit too but unless your suggestion has traction in the community it won't be popular enough to be seen.

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They listen to bugs moreso than gameplay feedback or other changes, though.

cold horizon Oct 28, 2021, 12:14 PM

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This league is so dumb

north dragon Oct 28, 2021, 12:15 PM

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LMAO

undone pasture Oct 28, 2021, 1:15 PM

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cold horizon This league is so dumb

templarthumbsup

hollow bobcat Oct 28, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Well that is bricked

waxen radish Oct 28, 2021, 4:11 PM

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is this league like super poor or is it normal to sell T4 Aisling for 40c?:)

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Seems a lot of people stopped playin early

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Which affects the market

waxen radish Oct 28, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Well how did you get to that conclusion - seems normal to me. https://steamcharts.com/app/238960#7d

Path of Exile - Steam Charts

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I think it could be that scourge league mechanic is just extremely unrewarding unless you do it on high juice and tier

prime wind Oct 28, 2021, 4:21 PM

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hey, did GGG mention anything about the sound bugs the game currently has ? especially on breach

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 4:40 PM

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At high juice/tier the mechanic is super rippy

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The “randomly enter nightmare” mod made me miss out on a delirium boss

real ingot Oct 28, 2021, 4:44 PM

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I genuinely hope Scourge never goes core

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Scourge is super rippy for me even on white maps. Surviving the initial clusterbomb of like 100 mobs in your face is difficult.

real ingot Oct 28, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Ain't gonna talk about the rewards?

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Can't get rewards if you can't do the content 🙂

real ingot Oct 28, 2021, 4:53 PM

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True, yes

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I hope next league isn't "OOOOHH LOOK AT ALL THIS MOBS, AND ALL THE MODS THEY HAVE"

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 4:54 PM

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my rewards are my stash tabs full of shitty krangles, a sad and pathetic trophy case

real ingot Oct 28, 2021, 4:55 PM

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I'd rather have a crafting league...

haughty oracle Oct 28, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Golden Blood, Anomalous Aura or Stabilising Energy max ?

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 4:57 PM

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I'd rather they tone down the packsizes in scourges, but it may just be I chose a bad build for the mechanic. Something like good old ED/cont would be doing better than Storm Brand.

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maybe I need an explodey chest, something like that

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but it seems like the key is to wipe packs WAY faster

surreal bolt Oct 28, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Do maps gain an additional upside/downside modifier at specific scourge tiers vs just making the existing downside stronger or is it random?

nova harbor Oct 28, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Is the Twitch rivals Event today

dapper locust Oct 28, 2021, 6:03 PM

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any guilds for scourge hardcore?

eager wraith Oct 28, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Anyone else keep timing out? When changing zones?

karmic sigil Oct 28, 2021, 6:15 PM

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is aspirant plaza down? lmao
got kicked out and can't even go back in

eager wraith Oct 28, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Same with my hideout

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actually cant port anywhere lol

chilly saddle Oct 28, 2021, 6:46 PM

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Does anyone know the boss statues? i just found the big purple blobs that denote that Ghorr is around, are there others?

jade sundial Oct 28, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Anyone who can help me run "necropolis" map tier V, I just respeced and need the socket recipe 🙂

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 7:04 PM

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The scourged map rewards can be very good

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Maps, fossils, catalysts, oils, scarabs, etc on killing nightmare rares

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If you can survive it

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I struggle in nightmares at 50+ stacks in t10 and up

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Imo the damage boost from stacks simply needs to be halved

storm crown Oct 28, 2021, 7:23 PM

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cold horizon This league is so dumb

that is dumb indeed XD

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would make sense if it was -1 of an other charge.

violet nymph Oct 28, 2021, 7:51 PM

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celest hound Scourge is super rippy for me even on white maps. Surviving the initial cluster...

Just keep moving?

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If you pop V and you get deleted, maybe work on your build?

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But white maps tho..

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You can only fk it up if you have terrible stats.., what are u running

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 7:54 PM

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"keep moving" doesn't really help when it's immediately on entering the nightmare and I'm not moving yet

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Storm Brand hiero, fwiw. if I get unlucky and warp into a really dense area, I'm in trouble.

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let's not be elitist and assume everyone is facetanking T16 maps 1 week into the league

violet nymph Oct 28, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Ok, let's ask differently: what are you doing to fix your problem?

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 8:10 PM

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trying different tactics, like always having a wall at my back to not get surrounded, and laying down all my brands first before entering. Plan is to not use the Cloak of Defiance I normally would for this build, and look into Inpulsa instead to try and blow up packs faster. I know it'll get better with levels and gear, my point is more that the league mechanic is hard to engage with early when you are undergeared.

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I guess my main complaint is that you reach a point where you have too many corruption stacks relative to your build strength at the time, so you are faced with just abandoning the mechanic. That doesn't feel good.

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 8:42 PM

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I mean, ona super dense map it’s not hard to reach 150+ by the end

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That’s a massive dam boost

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 8:43 PM

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yeah, I know. Most I've ever survived is 127

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 8:43 PM

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Throw on “more” dam map mods like most yellow maps have, and your gonna die if you get stuck in a wall

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 8:43 PM

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But like just now, I did a Museum map and popped into the nightmare in a corner of a small room, and the whole room was FILLED with mobs. Just so dense

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 8:43 PM

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They are stunned in that situation

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I assume you can’t 1shot the whole room?

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Not with storm brand, no

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Ouch

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 8:44 PM

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but honestly... "one shot the whole room instantly or die instantly" is a pretty shitty mechanic

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Agreed

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 8:45 PM

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I expect this will get better once I get an inpulsa and can get some explosions going

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 8:45 PM

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My build feels like tornado shot of old

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Attack ground, whole room explodes

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 8:45 PM

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But I hear you, big aoe builds are going to have a better time in scourges

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 8:46 PM

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I had a fine time with my cyclone generals cry, but.. it’s also always moving

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Brands have to be put on the ground first

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 8:46 PM

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I can do that, and then pop the nightmare

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that helps

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 8:46 PM

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But, that said

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Given that I screen clear with 1 attack

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And still get smashed in nighthmare

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I have 40% evasion, 30% spell suppress, 8k armor, 5.3k life + petrified blood, all before jade/quarts flask,

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Oh, and 40% attack block and some spell block

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Lol

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 8:49 PM

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yeah. I may have just chosen a build that doesn't mesh well with the league

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 8:49 PM

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Champ, so perma fortify

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In other words I’m quite tanky And it’s still rippy

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 8:49 PM

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I've been hearing that

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I wonder how summoners are doing

dense ruin Oct 28, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Spectres handles it pretty well actually

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Mostly because of dps

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But you are prone to getting one shot if the mob ever touches you

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 9:03 PM

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sounds about right

elder pawn Oct 28, 2021, 9:03 PM

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I'm playing storm brand too and it feels good. Inpulsa's is really strong

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 9:03 PM

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crit or EO?

elder pawn Oct 28, 2021, 9:04 PM

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yeah crit as inquisitor

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Kill or be killed

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 9:11 PM

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just gotta grind for gear upgrades and hope

indigo wolf Oct 28, 2021, 9:11 PM

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I feel like there are only specific kinds of mobs that kill you.
The tuning on that screech damage buff helped.

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But there are still other mobs. There's a pack of skeleton-archer type mods that delete me if I stop anywhere close to them

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Some kind of walking simulator build is probably ideal. I am cold dot but I still have delay between dropping vortexes

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 9:18 PM

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this is hilariously ghetto but CWDT+voidsphere sorta works

prisma charm Oct 28, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Getting savior really helped my survivability in nightmares

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Having 2 clones running around clearing the screen for me as I leap by

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Wonder if there’s some kind of… ignite build that could be linked to a movement skill, just leap through the map, starting the prolif on landing and that clearing

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Or bleed/poison etc

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Mjolnir build I had a while back kinda felt that way, arc on landing clearing packs

celest hound Oct 28, 2021, 10:12 PM

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can confirm, slapping on an inpulsa's helped a lot in scourges. seems "aoe any way you can get it" is the name of this league

chilly depot Oct 29, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Hey quick question, what are some decent league starters that people are running?

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 1:44 AM

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I'm pretty sure I just found a janky interaction with new fortify

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looks like every "fortifying hit" is a separate buff for mantra of flames

steep dock Oct 29, 2021, 1:46 AM

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That's just a feature

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 1:47 AM

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I mean it lets me get hundreds of stacks soooooo

steep dock Oct 29, 2021, 1:48 AM

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rustic mountain I mean it lets me get hundreds of stacks soooooo

whispers into ear 'Let us enjoy this'

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 1:48 AM

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hahahahaha

leaden wraith Oct 29, 2021, 1:51 AM

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this is a nerf, it makes the meme tier items go away on reddit

timid rune Oct 29, 2021, 1:54 AM

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What the slimy font weasel is going on here?

livid apex Oct 29, 2021, 1:55 AM

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standard issue text krangling, been around forever

timid rune Oct 29, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Forever this league? Never seen it before.

livid apex Oct 29, 2021, 1:58 AM

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no, forever forever, it just comes out under strange and unknowable circumstances

merry gate Oct 29, 2021, 2:12 AM

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@rustic mountain flicker strike slayer build would be fun with that

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 2:13 AM

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I already have a build @merry gate and it’s bone shatter with soul thirst 1 minute flasks.

merry gate Oct 29, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Is there a guide or pob for that? Sounds interesting

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Self rolled. Did it last league and have a theory raft

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I just started the league today but I did something close enough last league

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It can get a couple hundred million dps if you go super dumb with it

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And a couple hundred million life rehen

wide anchor Oct 29, 2021, 2:21 AM

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is patch already live?

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 2:22 AM

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That sounds incredibly broken.

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 2:22 AM

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I’m probably gonna cap out at 30aps on this one and probably not need a brightbeak to do so

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No ms

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if this works which it should?

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Last league I capped at 22m and called it good enough

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Granted needs absolutely everything perfect and the I harvested the dude for parts and just kept him farming

jagged marsh Oct 29, 2021, 2:28 AM

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no drop yet?

merry gate Oct 29, 2021, 2:32 AM

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@rustic mountain that sounds absolutely insane and fun. Which ascendancy?

vast gazelle Oct 29, 2021, 2:32 AM

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jagged marsh

yeah its uber legion iirc

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maybe some offline drops but regardless that is t0 im pretty sure

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 2:33 AM

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juggernaut

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for the regen

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and taking the 3% es keystone too

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since you prevent 90% of boneshatter damage

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and use divergent boneshatter

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its free real estate

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I think I put myself at max 900 trauma stacks if the king engine got roaring

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because I didnt want to get multiple mirrors worth of temp chains scaling in there too

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 2:35 AM

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this is intriguing but sounds hella expensive

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 2:36 AM

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I think the get in cost is <2 ex

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the filthy console peasant cost is dumb and I'm not doing it either

cedar umbra Oct 29, 2021, 2:37 AM

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The irony of the downside is kinda funny

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 2:38 AM

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again, I've done this once but I'm trying something like, 45 degrees off of it

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so I might be blowing smoke

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trying to figure it out

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 2:50 AM

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I don't usually play melee builds but for some reason I'm interested in seeing how this handles scourge content

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 2:51 AM

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what I think non crit version will do:

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thats assuming you hit 420 trauma stacks

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 2:52 AM

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crazy.

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 2:52 AM

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the problem with this last league was always the cold start

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I'm hoping soulthirst gives me what I need there

lethal anvil Oct 29, 2021, 2:53 AM

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does anyone know where I can find info on the delve recipes? I've been to like 20 azrite nodes and not a single recipe

indigo wolf Oct 29, 2021, 2:54 AM

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They were moved to maps

lethal anvil Oct 29, 2021, 2:54 AM

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just all maps or certain ones?

indigo wolf Oct 29, 2021, 2:54 AM

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Check the undiscovered recipes on the crafting bench

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Certain maps, just like the other map-found recipes.

lethal anvil Oct 29, 2021, 2:54 AM

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ah cool thanks for the help

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 2:55 AM

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How are you able to survive having so many trauma stacks?

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 2:56 AM

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juggernaut

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hard requirement to get 90% PDR

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then you use fortify and arctic armor to reduce even further

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puts it at like, 6% damage taken?

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this one has 5k life 1k es

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which if we go backwards means

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100k damage in a single phys hit we can live. If we look at lvl 8 boneshatter, thats ~ 75 damage

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1300 stacks

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if we do 20, thats ~240 damage, and we can tank 416 stacks (so probably no)

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you are net positive on regen at 90% PDR with just the unbreakable ascendancy node

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and even more ridiculously positive with the ES node

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the ES keystone

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Divine shield

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:01 AM

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seems like there would still be a very small window where you take a massive trauma hit where you could get plinked and die before the huge regen kicks in, but maybe that's not really a problem

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:01 AM

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your regen per second outpaces your trauma per second pretty much always

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sec, I'll snip something

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:02 AM

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no, I was thinking of the "take x damage when you gain trauma" - I assume that's a straight phys hit, not a degen

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:03 AM

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from someone else:

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look at the main hand fire damage and aps

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yeah so Unsmith your regen ramps up faster than the trauma will kill you

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as long as you arent chunking your whole health

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and with the new ES Keystone, you basically have a 0.01 second gap where you are chunked

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again, if this works the way its written

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:05 AM

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I get the theory, yeah. so you intentionally cap your boneshatter at a level where the damage per trauma meets a number of max stacks you're comfortable with

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:07 AM

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basically

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if you saw earlier

indigo wolf Oct 29, 2021, 3:07 AM

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lol DPS overflow

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:07 AM

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to chunk my health completely you would need 1300 trauma

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:07 AM

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and I guess to achieve 90% PDR you're going for all the phys reduction you can get your hands on

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:08 AM

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which means 650 trauma you are chunking half your HP

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:09 AM

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this is really interesting

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how much armor are you projecting you'll need?

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:13 AM

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not really any

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I'm using determination cause I can

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but endurance charges gets me my PDR

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I use determination to just get me an armor value so my ES can regen

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cause all my gear is ES gear

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(planned)

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:17 AM

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hm, to get 90% PDR with just endurance charges and jugg, that would have to be 18 charges unless I'm missing another source of PDR

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:17 AM

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unrelenting + enduring cry + some warcry buff effect

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and summon chaos golem, soul of grukthul, and soul of lunaris

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:18 AM

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ah, I misunderstood as it coming only from endurance charges

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:19 AM

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sorry it all adds up

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:20 AM

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yep, I see it. call to arms for instant repeatable cast?

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and I guess divergent enduring cry to get the cooldown as low as possible

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oh whoops, that doesn't work

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:23 AM

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mutewind pennant

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:27 AM

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I'm guessing with a combination of duration and cooldown recovery that you're more or less always under the warcry effect

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:30 AM

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I am using self curse temp chains too

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again, thats the plan, not what I'm currently doing

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I'm fresh in league for 3.16

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:30 AM

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hm... good idea, since IIRC temp chains doesn't affect cooldown. Shackles?

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:32 AM

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yep

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I have one with rotblood too

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thinking about that + supreme ego but it's only a 20% more

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:32 AM

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I don't know why I'm so interested in this, but it sounds awesome

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:32 AM

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its meme-y

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I'm doing this as probably my only 3.16 dude

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:33 AM

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the idea of getting pure 90% PDR is just wacky (to me)

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:34 AM

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its always been pretty easy

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not hard to get 10 endurance charges

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:34 AM

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probably, but I suck at theorcrafting so these ideas don't occur to me

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:37 AM

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with 10 you dont even need the additional 1% PDR ascendancy node

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determination armor keeps you at 90% at 100k which is enough

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celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:45 AM

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I'm not sure where the 10th endurance charge comes from

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:45 AM

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boots

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warlord boots

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:46 AM

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oh, death's door... or that, yeah

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:46 AM

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its an easy/ cheap ish mod

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shoot seeing low end of 2c

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:47 AM

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with that many stacks, you probably don't need any damage mods, all the damage comes from stacking 2% more hundreds of times

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:48 AM

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honestly the best damage mods are

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YUnyielding from asc node

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and disciple of the unyielding

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all of it gives great BS stuff

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more stun -> bigger aoe

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increased damageto scale with the mores

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:49 AM

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yep

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:49 AM

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just never do an ele reflect map

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😄

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:49 AM

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heh

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:49 AM

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or no regen

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:49 AM

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oh this is the thing you said earlier about mantra of flames

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 3:50 AM

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🙂

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guess what

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each trauma stack counts

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I didnt know fortify would

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yay double dip

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 3:50 AM

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🙂

real ingot Oct 29, 2021, 4:16 AM

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WAIT THEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS FROM THE START

livid apex Oct 29, 2021, 4:18 AM

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Should have, even

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The trick of the matter, I think, is that it’s not as simple as excluding matching modifier tags

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And takes manual cataloguing of relationships between mods

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 4:28 AM

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@rustic mountain are you not taking Unstoppable?

rustic mountain Oct 29, 2021, 4:28 AM

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I am

celest hound Oct 29, 2021, 4:29 AM

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trying to suss out which one you're not taking, all seem good for this

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I guess Unrelenting can go, and make up the chaos res on gear.

raven violet Oct 29, 2021, 4:42 AM

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updated , just drop , add lightning and no lightning still pair

carmine canopy Oct 29, 2021, 4:57 AM

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They said in the last post that that was coming later

loud kindle Oct 29, 2021, 5:40 AM

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raven violet updated , just drop , add lightning and no lightning still pair

If only you could actually read the patch notes before complaining

violet nymph Oct 29, 2021, 5:41 AM

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raven violet

it can't drop this patch

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they said they patched it

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to not drop something like this

coarse totem Oct 29, 2021, 6:02 AM

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They mentioned it in the announcement beforehand, but it wasn't in the actual patch notes. So I assume something came up and it didn't make the patch.

next epoch Oct 29, 2021, 6:04 AM

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violet nymph they said they patched it

No, they said that's "another upcoming improvement that we'll deploy next week".

dry kindle Oct 29, 2021, 6:38 AM

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oh great, ppl will loose interest by then

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and they'll just blame it on being too rewarding again

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 6:46 AM

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I don’t see anything to deal with the rippy part, but at least we’ll get rewarded for it

dense ruin Oct 29, 2021, 8:15 AM

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wintry otter Oct 29, 2021, 9:52 AM

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Is this considered a good scourge for leveling?

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Also any clue when new patches will hit consoles?

hybrid cosmos Oct 29, 2021, 10:31 AM

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I tought they fixed it so this cant happen?

autumn hound Oct 29, 2021, 11:12 AM

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opening blight-ravage map = activation failed.. any1 experience this?

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 11:59 AM

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are there magicfind builds somewhere? cant find any

fresh juniper Oct 29, 2021, 12:01 PM

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my latency going up to 2k+ from 30-40 when i enter scourged maps

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is there a fix for that?

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 12:02 PM

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fresh juniper my latency going up to 2k+ from 30-40 when i enter scourged maps

your game installed on hdd or ssd?

fresh juniper Oct 29, 2021, 12:02 PM

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ssd

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i have no problem outside of scourged maps

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and it start when i enter.. even before start killing stuff

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 12:07 PM

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hmm might be realm problem then

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you tried another realm?

fresh juniper Oct 29, 2021, 12:08 PM

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yeah i tried 3 different

patent zinc Oct 29, 2021, 12:15 PM

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is there any value doing those 4 pale court prophecy chains now?

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 12:18 PM

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Did you try different scourged maps

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Because it stays in the same realm once opened

fresh juniper Oct 29, 2021, 12:19 PM

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yes i wasted 7 scourged maps so far

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it was fine 3 days ago tho

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 12:19 PM

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Rip, maybe wait for a patch idk

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 12:30 PM

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anyone of you know good mf builds? 🙂

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 12:34 PM

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Ts hh

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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hasty perch Ts hh

tornado shot ranger?

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Yes TS with a HH

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 12:55 PM

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yeah but like to start with
i dont have a hh yet
just wanted to start out but dont find any guide

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 1:06 PM

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Mf isnt really a thing

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Outside of groups

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To find more loot the efficient way is to go faster

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Pick a fast build, maybe drop in a bisco collar if you want and go fast

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 1:07 PM

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i was playing a blade vortex occultist mf in 3.10 but after then i didnt found any guide to that

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 1:08 PM

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hasty perch Pick a fast build, maybe drop in a bisco collar if you want and go fast

hmm maybe gonna try that

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 1:09 PM

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Its mainly that mf existed before because it was worth it

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Now with most money coming from fixed events

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Its all about how many per hour you pop

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(Outside of giga juice stuff ofc)

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For solo players

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 1:11 PM

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im playing a flicker strike currently and i dont have that much currency
cant even fix my resistances somehow because i only get bad items dropped

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outside of that i cant really do rewarding content

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 1:12 PM

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Do you have syndicate missions?

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On the map device

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(Betrayal)

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 1:12 PM

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hasty perch Do you have syndicate missions?

not that many

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cus im running only white maps currently and im only lvl 80

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 1:13 PM

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Do the ones you can, they drop really nice rares now

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 1:13 PM

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oh

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ok will do thanks 🙂

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 1:13 PM

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With the boosted unveil mods

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They dont count as craft

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 1:13 PM

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thanks alot man didnt know that hehe

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 1:13 PM

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hasty perch They dont count as craft

they did previously right?
now you can unveil between 3 mods and craft 1 as i understand

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 1:13 PM

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So you can often get like 2 good mods and one bench craft

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Yeah

desert maple Oct 29, 2021, 1:14 PM

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nice thanks mate 🙂

hasty perch Oct 29, 2021, 1:14 PM

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Np

cloud plaza Oct 29, 2021, 1:32 PM

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what do you fellas run in lira

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respecced and im puzzled as to what i want

pure sierra Oct 29, 2021, 1:55 PM

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Hey guys, anyone knows how to unlock 3rd map furnace?

indigo wolf Oct 29, 2021, 2:15 PM

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There's 3?

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 2:49 PM

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If there is, I’d assume it’s by doing maps.

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🤷‍♂️

fiery tartan Oct 29, 2021, 2:57 PM

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I think something is wrong with this league

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Nah

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That’s not a new problem

fiery tartan Oct 29, 2021, 3:00 PM

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It scared the crap outta me

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send halp

vestal token Oct 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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didnt they change this?

livid apex Oct 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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It's not in yet

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Not yet

livid apex Oct 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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They really should have been clearer about that lmao

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Like making it part of a separate post rather than on the same post as actual patch notes

livid apex Oct 29, 2021, 3:13 PM

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Or even "The above changes are going live, this one will be going live next week"

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instead of "We have additional changes planned" with no clear indication that said change was it

grand ibex Oct 29, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Well at least they are addressing it and have a plan 3 days into the league unlike other games that don’t give a fuck

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This is a free game, and probably the best value of free games out there because they actually care about us

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Blizzard be having server problems since 1982 and their fix is sexually harassing your girlfriend, and you gotta pay them for the privilege.

mint salmon Oct 29, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Does this mean if I don't have 6k life I will insta-rip lol

grand ibex Oct 29, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Hell yeah bro, get wrecked

prime wind Oct 29, 2021, 3:46 PM

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how do you get flawless breachstones ?

prime wind Oct 29, 2021, 3:46 PM

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mint salmon Does this mean if I don't have 6k life I will insta-rip lol

no, it's fire dmg so it counts fire res

livid apex Oct 29, 2021, 3:46 PM

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1,500 after regular resistance cap

mint salmon Oct 29, 2021, 3:47 PM

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thank you, i was like well shit there goes that map lol

prime wind Oct 29, 2021, 3:47 PM

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the fire dmg can rise a lot

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did one with 12k, seen one with 18k

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same on any form of dmg. Can get same on phys dmg too

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did one with 6k phys dmg, dmg is rough

indigo wolf Oct 29, 2021, 3:52 PM

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There is one mod that deals specifically life damage per second, I forget if it's typed

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Hard counter CI and not all that nice for low life either

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 3:53 PM

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.2%, and then a flat number per second after

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It’s a counter to builds without much recovery

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It hurts my build a bit because I rely on recovery for survival

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With petrified blood

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But so far it hasn’t been… a hard counter

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Just an annoyance

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Better than the mobs do more dam

quartz echo Oct 29, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Oh i got that mod all the way up to 1200 per second.

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I was fine until I ran out of shit to kill. Also a map where I couldn't manually teleport out of nightmare so I either depleted the bar or died. xD

prime wind Oct 29, 2021, 4:05 PM

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the .2% is on es only. And it's phys dmg so it's managable. The 300 life per sec is deadly to CI and low life yeah. Without leech or high regen you're fucked

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300 es per sec exists as well

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I just cook maps as far as I can manage the dmg/sec on those. Define what your max is and just stop cooking as soon as it reaches those numbers

severe talon Oct 29, 2021, 4:50 PM

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Long time player, uber casual and often vocal constructive criticizer on the lack of attention payed to making the game "fun" for all players (especially casuals). ...

and I have to say, I am enjoying Scourge quite a bit. Took a little, but once I made it maps last night, and did a couple it's actually fun.

I don't feel like I am crippled and forgotten as a player with limited time, and no real desire to spend hours and hours farming currency. Our lifetimes are limited, and I've got other priorities.

Simplifying the Atlas was great so far, still progressing but it doesnt feel like such an endless uphill battle.

Scourge maps are cool and interesting, and I don't feel over whelmed like with that one league where we played at tower defense.

Moving recipes out of delve was great, although I miss having access to some of them immediately at the end of Act 10 to help craft some basic resists gear. Mostly talking about 2/3/4 sockets and using that to get the right socket colors on something that has the resists I need. I think it'd be nice to have the 2/3/4 sockets on the tier 1 maps.

Still waiting on more UI, Stash, Maps QOL fixes. There are a lot of things yall could be doing in this space, and shit, I'd even pay for stuff through the store to make it happen. Being able to assign a quad tab as the default for gear, or assign a tab as the default for green gems etc would make organizing things less of a chore.

Lastly, the skill tree updates are great, love the masteries.

anyhow, thanks, the update.

quasi bolt Oct 29, 2021, 5:02 PM

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tldr

shrewd vortex Oct 29, 2021, 5:08 PM

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I got an ilvl 63 quill rain, scourged it twice (so it's Tier 2 at bottom of tooltip), and the bar is max in the crucible, but i can't scourge it again (the Transform button is just greyed out)
Is there a minimum ilvl for Tier 3 scourges?

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 5:08 PM

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The gem one would be nice, ability to make any tab gem affinity

brisk stirrup Oct 29, 2021, 5:17 PM

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After clearing the nightmare part of a map, how to stop auto switching to it on scourge map?

indigo wolf Oct 29, 2021, 5:18 PM

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If it's an automap, don't think you can.

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Doubt it stops even if you literally kill 100% of scourge monsters.

brisk stirrup Oct 29, 2021, 5:18 PM

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So I need to spam v for the remaining map?

indigo wolf Oct 29, 2021, 5:19 PM

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I wasn't aware you could control when you exit scourge on those types of maps

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 5:20 PM

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You can on some of them

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The one that swaps you at 100%

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It’s super annoying

indigo wolf Oct 29, 2021, 5:20 PM

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I was thinking of the one that "shift into nightmare randomly" or whatever

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Because it doesn’t decay unless you kill something

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And if they’re all dead…

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Random one needs to go

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It’s so bad

agile idol Oct 29, 2021, 5:50 PM

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oh yeah im feeling those scourge tier 3 drop buffs now. Behold

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the physical-less impale phys bow

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im gonna choke

shut magnet Oct 29, 2021, 5:52 PM

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I'm blowing away my personal record for number of deaths this league

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I've been stuck at 94 since Tuesday, because I can't resist the "press v to die" button

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Scourged maps are pretty good since the change though, even if I die a few times. I've just decided I've stopped caring about XP lol. I ran a rares drop 2 maps on a T15 and walked out with pretty much a full inventory of T15/T16 maps

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 6:04 PM

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What I do is skip nightmares when I’m above 50%

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Till I level then I spam them again

shut magnet Oct 29, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Oh I know that's what I should do

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But the button is so shiny

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Yeah, and it’s like, maybe this time I’ll survive

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🙃

shut magnet Oct 29, 2021, 6:05 PM

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Also I don't know if you've had a chance to blow up screens of nightmare mobs in a big quant T16 maps around 200 stacks of corruption

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But the loot is real

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Since the patch

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Not t16 yet, but I’ve had some high quant 13’s

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Before patch

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Haven’t had a chance to do much after the patch

shut magnet Oct 29, 2021, 6:09 PM

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It's way better now. Apparently there was diminishing returns on the quant from the corruption exposure, and they got rid of it

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Trying to push up to 92, 89 atm, so kinda skipping a bit on nightmares

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Also getting my maven shtuff out of the way

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Some of those combos can be rippy

delicate plover Oct 29, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Do I put a 5 linked 6 socket item or whats the best play to place in the thing

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 6:24 PM

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I don’t understand the question

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6 links are better than 5, ?

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But 5 links are good

glass folio Oct 29, 2021, 6:28 PM

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question for anyone who might have an answer, is there a good place to get an overview of how the league is going/what builds are popular/what is the general feel? i dont really want to scroll through pages of reddit. just had my first kid a few weeks ago and havent really had time to look things up, debating about whether i should try scourge or not

coarse totem Oct 29, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Can at least look at builds on ninja

violet nymph Oct 29, 2021, 6:46 PM

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glass folio question for anyone who might have an answer, is there a good place to get an ov...

Take a look on Zizaran's youtube channel, short videos (10 min ~) with a lot of information

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easily understandable, he landed some pretty dope starters too

dense ruin Oct 29, 2021, 6:50 PM

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shut magnet I've been stuck at 94 since Tuesday, because I can't resist the "press v to die"...

V is faster portal

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ROGGERS

violet nymph Oct 29, 2021, 6:51 PM

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V is not killing me because of damage, V is killing me because my pc froze

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HeraldOfIceSkill

dense ruin Oct 29, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Faster portal is faster portal

glass folio Oct 29, 2021, 6:55 PM

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violet nymph Take a look on Zizaran's youtube channel, short videos (10 min ~) with a lot of ...

thanks! 👍

crisp depot Oct 29, 2021, 7:07 PM

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damn this league loves crashing

hearty pilot Oct 29, 2021, 7:39 PM

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I was super stoked about the tornado skill this league. Turns out, 3 people on poe.ninja are using it. What a shitshow :/

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Honestly doesn’t look great even in the introduction video

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It’s slow

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You have to put it up, then grow it,

dreamy karma Oct 29, 2021, 7:43 PM

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The buffs are nuts

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 7:43 PM

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You can only have 1 active,

dreamy karma Oct 29, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Idk what ggg was thinking

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At 200 stacks in a 100 Quant map

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Before you'd be at 300 quant

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Now ur at 5250 Quant

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templarLul

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Well,

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Iunno.

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On one hand I think the difficult warrants great reward

dreamy karma Oct 29, 2021, 7:44 PM

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That's a bit too great imo

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Lol

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 7:45 PM

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But on the other once you can deal with the risk…

dreamy karma Oct 29, 2021, 7:45 PM

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It'd x17.5 Quant

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Compared to before

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Its

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 7:45 PM

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I’d rather they had gone in the opposite direction

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Reduce the risk

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Getting 1shot by things that cross the screen in a half second is… a bit much

livid apex Oct 29, 2021, 9:10 PM

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hearty pilot I was super stoked about the tornado skill this league. Turns out, 3 people on p...

poe.ninja is not necessarily a good spot to see new skills, it's comprised in significant part of the people speedrunning the game by sticking to tried and true strategies

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tornado is good but it requires you to spend time pressing buttons and thinking about breakpoints that you could be spending turboing to high level maps

cobalt field Oct 29, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Isn't tornado a secondary skill anyways

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I have it in a 3l and it's noticeably boosted my boss dps, it's nice

indigo wolf Oct 29, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Does Alternate History (crucible skill) just mean you can scourge uniques, or does it mean you have a chance of turning a non-unique base into a unique?

livid apex Oct 29, 2021, 10:04 PM

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The former

violet nymph Oct 29, 2021, 10:33 PM

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I wish they added synthesis to core instead of expedition

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I miss synthesis and build a map fun.

livid apex Oct 29, 2021, 10:35 PM

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Synth coming back at some point would be neat

violet nymph Oct 29, 2021, 10:35 PM

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It doesn't fit current poe genre! Ignore the wandering between dimension beings, time travel, a bored female interstellar boss, etc

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Buuuuuuut I also think that determine crafting like harvest and others should be REALLY outrageous.

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For this league though, leveling compared to expedition was better. Using the league mechanic wasn't a chore, it felt like a rush.

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I just feel they should have waited one season to put expedition in. Give everyone a visual and audio break.

indigo wolf Oct 29, 2021, 11:21 PM

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I wonder if I wouldn't prefer synth's ability to manipulate implicits over harvest

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I didn't play the league but it looked like it was deterministic, it was just an obtuse mess. Like any other crafting.
But a site could solve that. Plug in the implicit you want, it will tell you what fractured items you need.

prisma charm Oct 29, 2021, 11:26 PM

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i didn't like synth

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harvest... is just so much simpler and more powerful

eternal badger Oct 29, 2021, 11:35 PM

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well then.. not even a pair with 2 whites anywhere online lol

pulsar burrow Oct 29, 2021, 11:58 PM

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i have to post this here, i legit loled, this isn't mine. he tried to sell it to me right before tier 3 scourge

rough leaf Oct 30, 2021, 12:23 AM

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Did you enjoy the new changes for the scourge mechanichs so far guys ?

I still feel like the risk/time invested isnt worth the rewards

honest fern Oct 30, 2021, 12:25 AM

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Most say the same thing. Not worth it

open coral Oct 30, 2021, 12:30 AM

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Hello peeps. Does anyone know if breach gets juiced by shifting into nightmare realm?

prisma charm Oct 30, 2021, 1:18 AM

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totally worth it if you get super lucky and get an OP scourge