1┃mirage-league

[late ember]

Which builds would you guys recommend for a late league start?

[hybrid cosmos]

Toxic Rain

QuillRain is 1chaos, CarcassJack is pretty cheap too

and that was your equipment till RedMaps

[tawny pasture]

Carcass jack is bad for Tr since 2 league

[hybrid cosmos]

ok but still nice starter + cheap especially now

[violet nymph]

Can someone help me through the 3rd Ascendant trial

[frigid jewel]

Hi all... Someone is playing exsanguinate totem? Is my starter build and looks pretty strong... Just curious to know if i'm the only one playing this 🙂

[violet nymph]

whats the difference between a lost men remnant and an unearthed remnant?

[snow tinsel]

On t3 maps and finally got a logbook!!!! Jesus that took ages

[tired spindle]

I'm taking my time this league and playing hcssf with a few buddies. It's been a great time and I really enjoyed the difficulty of act1. Had some sketchy moments for sure. It's very jarring though going from act1 to 2 where suddenly the difficulty drops

[violet nymph]

i got one literally first map lol

[snow tinsel]

I mean honestly good for you, but I am deeply upset

[blazing hazel]

Iany other lvl 70s wanna map?

[rugged nexus]

hey guys whats the difference between blood & sand vs flesh & stone?

[violet nymph]

they offer different bonuses.
Flesh and stone blinds nearby enemies in sand stance, and take less damage from enemies farther away. and gives maiming on hit while in blood stance. (you can swap stances with just that aura so you don't have to run both)

while blood and sand gives AoE but Less AoE Damage in sand stance, while blood stance is the opposite.

[rugged nexus]

ok, thank you, im trying a cyclone build and spent most of my time using flesh and stone, thinking it was blood and sand

[fallen cobalt]

Has anyone played around with black scythe arbalists in a spectre setup? I'm fiddling with them now and wondering if anyone has fixed their inconsistent damage output

[candid dagger]

Need 1 super carry for an expedition logbook level 83 super pimped, immunity to fire, only 1 portal left

[plain kiln]

well my build manage to do yellow map on a 30 chaos budget

I guess its not so bad

But I ended up using spectral helix even if I didnt plan on it

helix is really strong

[maiden coral]

YO SPOILER BUT TEMPLAR HAS DIALOGUE FOR ||KILLING SIRUS||

People who care for lore, we living

[terse girder]

does anyone know how remnants interact with bosses?

if i blow up a remnant after, the boss doesnt get buffed right

ok looks like thats how it works

[storm crown]

Love The mod that removes 10% of es and mana when they hit

[honest ivy]

ok what is the forbidden rite health cost? 51% chaos resistance and i'm still barel able to cast it 4 times

does it just not half the 40% cost or?

[honest ivy]

nvm i figured out how to sustain it

high level vitality ftw XD

[final current]

What do you guys think of freezing pulse totem

Would u say it’s good or not

[torpid pewter]

To the devs: Wish the tooltip for the expedition gave you a chest count and monster totem count so you know what your vague ring captured. I figured the green highlight was needed, or the ring circle, but I have had chests or runic monster totems not get triggered, even if they looked inside the ring.

[hidden shell]

How can I get expedition maps more often? Ive only ever found one

[solemn atlas]

How do u trigger this in an expedition map? I tried 1 explosive but it didnt go. does anyone know?

[rotund surge]

On one hand my char "sucks" and I have no fun with it, on the other hand I don't want to play the campaign again, to make a new char.

[solemn nest]

Is it possible to increase chances of uniques from Gwennen? I keep getting blues etc. and I'm trying to do the challenges...

[sullen zealot]

some of these challenges seem ... extremely hostile

4 conditional kills of the bosses?

[rose pasture]

Make new char and buy tons of them dirty cheap in acts.

[solemn nest]

Her items cost less at low lvl? Thanks for the tip

[glacial vine]

does pledge of hands work on syndicate operative spectres?

[rose pasture]

Yrp, I made this challenge yday in like act 3.. by twink, after farmed artifacts on red maps by leaguestarter.

[flint geyser]

I just realised we might played old acts with friend of mine , we were playing party and all the mobs are old ones , their damage was same and brutus was in his room, now i realised it after making second char its much harder to play and i die much quicker there is much more bosses and brutus was in different room, i double checked going in the other account that i played with my friend and i can confirm that it is completely different game

[tired spindle]

Once I slowed down and didn't really try to rush through acts as soon as possible, the expetition content has become much more fun. It's just really slow content to setup but if you take your time it's pretty fun

The expedition logs are weird. It's like 10 minutes of planning for 1 minute of action followed by 5 minutes of looting

[snow tinsel]

Been offering up trials and nobody tips >:(

[red jackal]

if you expect tips, sell them on trade 820

if everyone who receives 5 trials from 820 shares just a single on with 5 portals, it would be self-sustaining.

"leeching" isn't an issue f you carry it forward just once

[eager charm]

No, SO use attacks not spells

[honest ivy]

welcome to what we call "why we hate the skill tree rerolling system"

it's gotten a lot better especiall with the gambler but still annoying

[violet nymph]

if you could spend like... 100 regret orbs to change your class after refunding all your passive and ascendancy points i'd do it every fucking time

hell i'd probably do it for 1000

[jolly egret]

Gender change 1.5k orb of regrets

[honest ivy]

or or and just hear me out here not lock skill tree resetting behind currency so people can freely experiment to begin with

[violet nymph]

i mean, that'd be cool

but like

i'm trying to be realistic lol

[honest ivy]

not class changing the skill tree

sure you could still lock ascendency reset behind regrets

[devout osprey]

there could be other ways to skip the re-leveling too

[violet nymph]

best ways to do it would be to allow class respec with some amount of regrets, or to make waypoints account wide per-league

you wouldn't be able to use a waypoint you don't have the quest state for, but it would heavily speed up a few acts

you could also make skill point sidequests account-wide per league, and they would be given to you after the completion of each act

that would make getting through acts a shitton easier

[violet nymph]

Its base 40% chaos res. If your Chaos res is too low even with vitality you will be risking dying if you get hit hard.
I'd aim for something like a +3max chaos res shield and a small cluster with born in darkness. Which gives another +3

81% chaos res vs 75% is 7.6% hp vs 10% hp.

But you can technically get all the way to 90% and that's 4%
86% is those + divine flesh, which would be 5.6%

@violet nymph why not just make it like a Sirius drop.
People can either save up to buy it in trade. Or earn it by doing the boss fight themselves.

ew

It's the most inline solution to the problem with the devs design philosophy

unless it was a common sirus drop i wouldn't agree

Also have it possible to drop from conquerors

Say 80% chance from Sirus and 15-20%from conquerors

Maybe 10% even. So on average you are able to get 1 in your progress of getting to sirus

i'd be okay with that

that being said, sucks for people that started the league with a less-than-optimal setup because of clickbait starter videos lol

That's why I noted it being able to gotten by conquerors

Cuz itd reduce prices of it

You could just farm in BA if need be

[sonic glen]

how do I know what to look for to get the extra areas in an expedition map?

and how do I find the ancient texts

[snow tinsel]

Look for blue on the ground

[maiden coral]

in the minimap you'd see an icon glowing

[smoky panther]

Just finished this these awful challenges. Let me know if anyone needs any help.

[slender temple]

i would say. write a guide somewhere. reddit or google docs and share it

congrats btw

[maiden coral]

lovely work Panda
How tough was it to figure out? some of them rely on certain attacks/debuffs happening

[slender temple]

like from last league doing 40/40. there just wasn't good info on teh conditoinals. this league i think it will be less painful and probably sellable as a service maybe?

if there is some bs stuff ill just pay someone 10 ex

[smoky panther]

Thanks. I'll probably post something on reddit tomorrow. But yea, a few of them you probably can buy but there are few that require you to have a certain debuff when the boss is killed. It was pretty much trial and error xD. I'd say the worst one is Uthred's first challenge because you literally can't get hit by any of his attacks.

[maiden coral]

jeez

do him scoured, no remnants, front loaded damage and pray you dodge :/

[smoky panther]

Yul. I even changed my build to take acro and phase acro.

[maiden coral]

i'll run it with my brother probably multiple times
we'll take turns tanking and hope he doesn't have massive aoes 😛

what sucks also is that there are tons of challenges that require multiple reruns of the boss

the twins from heist and these 4, you can't do all 4 conditions in one go

[smoky panther]

I think you can do it in 2 tries if you are perfect. But that is if you know what you are doing.

[maiden coral]

Yea, gonna wait till i have more dps to burst down

The others, im rerolling into a build i can control the damage

that uhtred conditional gets "easier" if you can just nuke it asap and pray he attacks my totems or something

[smoky panther]

His laser spin is really bad though. And in phase 3 he does the laseer plus a room wide AoE that takes 80% of the room.

[maiden coral]

jeez, he's got phases and massive aoe for a no hit conditional?

[smoky panther]

[maiden coral]

sounds fun : )

[indigo wolf]

"We want the game to be slower" <> Challenge that may as well be impossible without 100M DPS.

[nocturne gust]

@stoic oracle What was that "Steel" build you really liked and you talked about it alot

[floral cobalt]

Carry me to 40/40 LUL

[floral cobalt]

Just made this with rog LOL

what the fuuuuck

[maiden coral]

"We want the game to be slower"
Here's two more Breachlords if you don't do enough dps in a minute 😊

[floral cobalt]

Crafted lightning to spells on it.

Dagger is prety nice mhhmm roggy boy

[peak terrace]

which is why the challenger requires you to not play slower and instead go monka dps

[floral cobalt]

man the fucking weighting on steel rings is still absolute shit.

I swear its impossible to roll a steel ring ever.

All the generic weighting for what i want are "high" but this shit always rolls towards mana/es, game is soo fucking annoying with that shit.

Entire fucking build being delayed because apparently its impossible to even just hit tri res on the base.

[mint wolf]

has anyone got tujen to accept an offer of 1?

i really wanna see it happen

[crimson stirrup]

Wish POE hadn't half-assed ward. They could have added it to the crafting bench

Is there a minimum ILVL for gambling Headhunter?

[rotund surge]

yes

[crimson stirrup]

What is it? Chancing does not care about item level.

[rotund surge]

You don't need a specific ilvl to chance a HH.
But there are ilvl ranges that make it a lot more likely, if you use a ancient orb. The highest chance is if you use a ilvl 40-43 leather belt.

[crimson stirrup]

Hmm. Wondering if it's worth keeping a character low level just for Gwennen gambling

Don't need much else from her

[rotund surge]

I don*t know if Gewenn is truly chancing the items. Doubt it.

[crimson stirrup]

She seems to have a higher chance of giving out uniques

[rotund surge]

yes, but you don't know if she is using the chance orb mechanic. From the outside it looks like you buy a random orb applied on a white base. But you don't truly know if it works like that.

Thats just what a player would do (in theory) but you don't know if Gewenns game mechanic is truly crafting something, if you know what I mean.

[junior belfry]

can you roll the expedition bosses on logbooks?

or only drop them?

[livid lake]

only drop

[subtle linden]

Can anoyne help me :C

[eager charm]

with?

[subtle linden]

With the lvl 55 libary

[eager charm]

?

[rotund surge]

Do you have a question or do you need ingame help?

[subtle linden]

Ingame help 😮

[subtle linden]

The Acend missions ^^

[subtle linden]

Hörst dich nach nem Deutschen an haha

[eager charm]

ascendency trials?

[subtle linden]

ye!

[eager charm]

thats more suited to ask in #1┃looking-for-group

[subtle linden]

But wanna play 😄 ?

[rotund surge]

Der einfachste weg ist es etwas höher im level zu sein

get to around level 60 and then the 55 Lab should be easy, thats how most people do it during the campaign

[subtle linden]

joa scho aber iwie hab ich übel die Probleme mit dem überleben

will nede immer alleine zocken

[rotund surge]

You should level with a Vitality Aura, you get it in Act 1 after Brutus. It will make the Campaign a lot easier, even if they nerved the Aura last league. You can find people on the notice board in the towns

there you can open your own groups or see if somebody is running it.

[subtle linden]

mhm ok

[rotund surge]

Especially on the days a new league comes out you will constantly find grps going through the campaign. That also often speeds up your level speed.

Even only with random people you can shave off hours of the time you need to get through the campaign.

But your char will often be worse geared at the end of it compared to taking your time and constantly doing league mechanics.

[subtle linden]

😮

[twilit drift]

poe trade keeps dying 😦

[rose pasture]

Intended

[neat rover]

how are you dealing with perma stuns and chills this league?

it feels worse than ever

did they fucking put on every mob stun/chill ?

[empty crystal]

tbh in maps I don't feel much of it, in the story it was horrible though

[violet nymph]

is it a bug that the "Excavated chests have 35% chance to contain an additional Map" never actually drops a map?

I made like 200 chests with that mod and never got a single map

feels broken by this point

[empty crystal]

well 35% chance is pretty straight forward, hard to drop anything with just one of those mods

but yeah, should be labelled differently

[hybrid cosmos]

An Additional means, double if you already find one

[violet nymph]

it reads like every third box is supposed to drop one

what a scam im skipping that mod then

[hybrid cosmos]

yeah

[empty crystal]

yeah that's what I was reading

[versed marlin]

An additional map can also read that the chest needs to drop a map for the 35% to roll. So you might have a 35% chance to get 2 maps if you drop one.

[violet nymph]

poe has this issue a lot where things can be laid out different ways and it requires lots of testing and information to get what is going on.
It could mean "drops a map additionally to whatever else it drops"

[empty crystal]

yeah I think it's increased chance to drop

which means what Smashx is saying

[violet nymph]

they could simply word it "has a 35% chance to drop a second map"

then its quite clear

but additional? not really

[empty crystal]

it fits the usual poe slang though

[violet nymph]

or "to duplicate map drops"

man I get so annoyed by it sometimes :/

especially when Im trying to map sustain and that thing gets my hopes up

[empty crystal]

I didn't bother after 5 tries.

Just pick Pack Size and tag mobs.

Or quant for chests.

[indigo wolf]

An additional map can also read that the chest needs to drop a map for the 35% to roll. So you might have a 35% chance to get 2 maps if you drop one.
I feel that can't be the case, since none of the other "drop additional" remnant modifiers work like that.

You don't get 2 stacked decks or essences, for example.

I'm pretty sure it's "additional" to the rest of its loot. Like, "here's my bunch of stuff - and oh yeah, this extra thing too"

[urban grove]

Did Gwennen item level was modified? I swear I had higher item levels in gambles

[maiden sluice]

Does attributes (int) increase my lightning trap damage?

[silver kettle]

not by default. the only stats inherently granted by attributes are life and melee physical damage for strength, mana and energy shield for intelligence, and accuracy and evasion for dexterity

[maiden sluice]

Ah

Thank you so much

[glad thicket]

do maps spawn Expedition content if im in a party?

levelling with a buddy and we havent found any

[devout osprey]

are you in maps though? or acts still

[glad thicket]

acts

[proper widget]

they stop if ur highly overleveld afaik

[devout osprey]

youre overleveled for the zone to spawn expeditions

[glad thicket]

oh that's a shame, but I understand

[devout osprey]

try putting on that downleveling stuff in party options, mabye that will make it spawn?

[glad thicket]

already got it

didnt help

[proper widget]

i wonder what would happen if ur at-level buddy starts the zone and u show up after

[devout osprey]

@glad thicket can u try making your friend open an instance?

[proper widget]

usually the expedition is a bit out in the zone, no idea if it spawns immediately or if it checks when ur near it

[glad thicket]

that worked thanks

@devout osprey

[proper widget]

nice

[maiden sluice]

just double corrupted this with locus of corruption

Not bad

[torn tapir]

any1 wanna help me with merc lab

[torn tapir]

done

[mellow bloom]

does the order you blow stuff up in matter?

[harsh maple]

Whats the best leveling skill to 70 for a spell caster now?

[glacial swallow]

@mellow bloom u need a order to reach far away remnants

[proper widget]

do believe if u highlight the bottom right stuff it says the mods apply to later explosions too

[steady abyss]

is it better to aim for chests or runic monsters in logbooks?

[jade crest]

So I'm currently in SSFHC with 4.7k hp capped res around 39% ReducedPhysical, I'm abit scared of Kitava (this is my first SSFHC char) any tips? I'm doing SST build

[lost tide]

in that expdedition maps, how can i open that closed door? there seems to be a kind of "boos" room behind it.

[glad berry]

Rog just gave me a weapon upgrade before even starting his crafts. What a based fucking hero man

+3 gem bow with DoT from his stash. (SSF)

[cunning blade]

wat yall doing for currency now

im bored of running blights

[neat summit]

Just pay attention to the ground ... Sou don't stay in a damage over time area

[jade crest]

killed her, abit of anxiety but got her

[peak terrace]

her?

is kitava a gril?

[pearl prairie]

Kitava not a girl

[jade crest]

Meant him, dunno why I said her

[neat summit]

Lol

[maiden sluice]

beautiful hideout

[empty crystal]

sexy

25€

hideout is lava mtx

[hasty perch]

Its funny till half the people trying to buy stuff from you disconnect upon arrival

[sullen zealot]

how do you do the wharf challenge?

i thouht i had it but i didn't get credit

went into a twinned map with southrend gloves and got a bunch of adds tospawn

i guess i migiht not have spawned 15, but its hard to count

and then i hit the boss with blight when he had the purple shield up and didn't get credit

[jade crest]

any tips for expedition farming? I feel that I was consistently getting astragali, exotic coinage, and scrap metal when I was in a9 and a10. Just hit maps been maping for over an hour an have gotten 1 measly Astragali barely getting anything

[empty crystal]

for me it got better with yellow maps

[sullen zealot]

ok real talk

why didn't this count

https://clips.twitch.tv/TriumphantRichWheelFreakinStinkin-Yj80Vf4f4yFqEdCq

[iron violet]

it should have

prolly a bug

[sullen zealot]

how do I submit a bug report?

[iron violet]

forums

or support email

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/bug-reports

@sullen zealoti think someone already has a thread on it https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3157691

[violet nymph]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3148848 still waiting for ggg to address this one 😔

[iron violet]

yea, sometimes they take a bit to fix em

[violet nymph]

i just want acknowledgement that it's even a bug lol

[lost tide]

are those ward items any good?

[wooden zephyr]

my build (pathfinder) runs a ward flask

it's very good

on pathfinder

[fair prairie]

didn't they buff how often these logbooks are suppose to drop?

still gonelike 2 days with no logbooks feelsbad

[soft siren]

It's so amazing I'm speechless.

[slender temple]

@soft siren rngesus wants to know your location

[torpid pewter]

Considering the flask changes, the map mods around flask charges should be increased (more qual/quant), since they are far riskier than their original implimentation.

[violet nymph]

turns out it's a seed bug

[livid apex]

same seed bug is probably affecting logbook drops

[neon trout]

@jovial sail yo i need a tutorial on this one part

[jovial sail]

alr in dms

[mint wolf]

anyone else have issues with crashing when tabing in or out? ive had it happen 5 times so far this league

also ever since the optimizations my game has ran worse

[proper widget]

sometiems have that happen if i minimize the game, not rly when tabbing

have u tried switching renderers

[celest hound]

Is it actually a seed bug, or are people just parroting what they read on reddit?

[copper kernel]

didnt chris say that

[celest hound]

I'd like a source, so I can see for myself

[copper kernel]

should be in #ggg-tracker

[celest hound]

That appears to be a bug in item generation for some of the members. I'm wondering about logbook drops themselves, which that post doesn't mention.

I understand RNG is a thing but it is beyond infuriating that league content continues to be unobtanium league after league

[sullen scroll]

Havent run a logbook but anything i need to watch out for on them? Including the lvl 50ish ones?

[barren crescent]

I was dropping plenty of logbooks from maps that provides any amount of runic mobs and quant modifier

Like 1/5

[naive gyro]

there is a runic monster that can one shot my necro low life build, its attach passes through the shield O_O

[cunning blade]

cull

[naive gyro]

damn

how to counter it?

[cunning blade]

wonderful mechanic isnt it

[bronze cave]

dont activate the remnant

[cunning blade]

not be below cull threshold

or yea just ignore it entirely

[naive gyro]

in one run i died 6 times

T_T

[bronze cave]

You need to read what the remnants say, and if that mod is there, dont blow it up

[naive gyro]

hard to place low life on this league cause of the cull thing

[cunning blade]

expedition is literally just a

reading check

[naive gyro]

yeah

i read carefully but no "culling" mod

[cunning blade]

0 thought required beyond picking the rewards u want

[naive gyro]

i always avoid the 100% physical immune

since my build is pure physical damage

[bronze cave]

the mod reads something like "monsters will kill everything below 20% hp instantly" or something like that

[cunning blade]

^

[naive gyro]

okay then i'll watch out for this

thank you mates!

[mint wolf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/739230161127604335/872043332015104060/unknown.png?width=1286&height=676 why cant we get this for coinage lmao

[sullen scroll]

how do you haggle for Tujen? As far as I've seen he just has a currency/fragments/splinters inventory reroll

[indigo wolf]

When you go to buy, you get a slider bar to make a lowball offer on what you're buying

The listed values are the maximum for the haggling but you can usually hit go 50% and he will make a counter offer with new limits

[sullen scroll]

is there a challenge tied to it or is it just rng for dropping the price

[indigo wolf]

I think there are challenges for buying different stuff from him but not tied to the haggling itself.

I think it is just RNG

[hybrid cosmos]

its semi random, he sells mostly between 40-70% if you try for 1 he says "ONE just ONE?"

[cunning ermine]

how are people farming lioneye's in SSF

[potent fern]

which Lioneye's?

[cunning ermine]

the chest

[potent fern]

seems best to farm Arena or Racecourse maps for the div card, and also grab any crusader plates from Gwen for the gamble luck

T2 and T3 respectively so your sustain should be reasonably good on them

[marsh oracle]

does expedition pause delirium timer?

[potent fern]

No

[steep dock]

it seems like it does while detonating? but not 100% sure

[dense ruin]

for tujen btw, if you get anything pretty valuable ie one ex, 10cs etc

don't super lowball it(25%)

as he can stop the haggle immediately

[sharp iron]

Drew Dannig

[sharp iron]

Finished drawing the whole team

[unborn stratus]

Im sorry for ever clowning the div cards you get from logbooks

i love this league. Best league since Ritual, and im totally not biased

[quick raven]

What does using a blessed orb on a logbook do? Rerolls the areas?

[lilac saffron]

I mean considering how bad ultimatum was it doesnt take much

[lilac saffron]

The implicit numbers

[proud raptor]

what is this orange banner? temple?

[copper kernel]

heist?

[proud raptor]

tested here, yeah it's heist

[copper kernel]

league mechanics are usually controlled by the party owner

[proper widget]

it comes down to zone ownership

maybe u could make it that mechanics unlock for other players based on loot sharing settings

[strong sand]

When my build been lacking endgame gear...and a house of mirrors div card drops. Y33T!!!

[lilac saffron]

Vaal it

[sullen scroll]

3400 common broken scythe for 10 ex shards. I guess i should try haggling at 1.8k to be safe?

[spiral cipher]

lore team knocked itout of the park

[storm crown]

If you stand where The detonation is its paused

[storm crown]

Got 2 of them so far love stacked decks from tujen 😂

[toxic fiber]

Is it possible to gamble for Aul's Uprising Onyx Amulet?

[copper kernel]

No

You cant gamble boss drops

[floral cobalt]

Im saving all my stacked decks. Im gonna open 5k if i get there. Currently at 300.

Thinking of saving all log books for end of league too and running them all one after another lol

[storm crown]

Get so much currency from loggbooks that i wouldnt save atm 😂

[haughty oracle]

do digsites only give their bonus once they explode ? like when the 3rd explosion gives you 50% more currency, does this only work once the 3rd site is blown up ?

[versed marlin]

Yeah the bonuses apply from when that explosion happens and applied to all future explosions in the chain

[torpid pewter]

It sure seems like 300% increased rarity from excavation modifiers do not function properly when stacked more than 1x. Anytime I have had more than 1 boost to monsters or chests, no league resources drop for that type (monster boost, no monster drops, vice versa).

[indigo wolf]

The map one also feels bugged to me. I have yet to get a map from it.

It has identical phrasing to things like essence, stacked decks, or influence/fractured item, so I don't think it's a case of "get % chance of 2 maps if 1 map dropped"

[frozen garnet]

when should i use exotic coinage?

Im lvl 70 atm

[devout osprey]

didnt know level mattered

ive gotten t16 red map from it, im nowhere near that

[violet nymph]

same to the previous thing

i feel like you should use em when the vendor stock holds nothing of interest to you

[frozen garnet]

aight

it says a new set of items appropriate to your char lvl, which is why i thought it mattered

[violet nymph]

it does and doesnt imo

anyways the 4th vendor sell em pretty cheaply

how good is summoner build for this leahue btw

[fluid yoke]

Ultimate Raise Spectres Necromancer — 8M+ DPS Powerhouse on a Budget (PoE Expedition 3.15)

https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ultimate-raise-spectre-necromancer-build-guide#introduction

[violet nymph]

ty

time to get alot of orbs or regret lmao

[violet nymph]

why am i getting 4 explosive charges on my expediton

[tawny pasture]

cuz you are past act 5 ?

[violet nymph]

no i got it while in act 5

[tawny pasture]

that why

and when in map 5

[vestal stratus]

what is a must do with this league mechanic

with the currency etc, not touched any of it yet

[floral cobalt]

man these mobs get seriously busted in higher end maps with any single damage modifiers.

Extra Projectile + AOE was literally being one shot by AOE overlap and the giant rune that does like 30% of your life takes up like the entire screen

yikes.

Max Block 79/79 + Fortify + Blind from Blood and Sand + 3 Endurance Charges + 3k Evasion 15k armour + Immortal call and basically got erased in a lot of the higher tier maps ones even without juicing their damage up.

[barren crescent]

In before you picked 3 Pen mods

[floral cobalt]

Nope lol

All just generic crap.

Its the extra proj + AOE base mods causing their projectiles to shotgun you and insta kill you lol

[barren crescent]

Not all projs shotgun

Enemies have same rules for projectiles as players do

[floral cobalt]

mate they throw conc.

[quick pivot]

so why exactly is this league so hard ? 😛 also they said no more paino build but i have more buttons to press then ever 😛

[grave kite]

someone may explain to me what's this expedition?

It's like you plant bombs and just explode it

then take what's in chests?

[cunning blade]

yes basically

if ur wondering why the chests give so little loot

its normal

main rewards are locked behind the NPC vendors and logbooks

still worth doing map encounters since ilv80+ logbooks sell reeally

[floral cobalt]

Basically theres chest and specific monsters laid out in an area. There are empowering alters as well. Runic Monsters are marked by larger skulls on sticks. You use bombs to chain empowers in order to increase the amount of loot, which comes at the risk of empowers having modifiers on them like "X increased damage" or "All hits can freeze on hit with 10% chance to freeze on hit" buffing monsters which spawn based on the runic skull markers.

Biggest thing is doing the blast chain well in order to maximize loot.

Often times you need to pick between ruinic monster drops or chest drops but occasionally you can get bother.

Loot is VERY dependant on a few factors.

1 Map mods. Map quantity and rarity in my opinion absolutely applie to it from my experience.

2 - Modifiers you should grab first in the chain should always be rarity and quantity, followed by monster pack size or duplicate rares. Then you go for the other modifiers like "monsters drop additional items, etc"

3 - If its chests you want to go for then you would pick quantity/rarity first as well before, then going for "additional stacked decks" or similar modifiers for more loot before proceeding in your blast chain.

Modifiers for chests rewards and monster rewards dont apply retroactively which is why you need to get them as early in the blast chain as you can.

This is also true for the empower modifiers, they dont apply retroactively so if you want to ease the difficulty to later chains you can and only monster from that specific blast onwards will be affected.

[jade crest]

I've never seen such an unrewarding League or State of PoE even since i've started playing. This is Insane, I cannot use the league mechanic because the currency from the vendors (asides from an astragali here and there) refuses to drop. JFC, I'm sure imma die soon, so i'll prolly just drop the league when I do.

[sweet osprey]

Lolwut? You just need to place your charges appropriately, mechanic showers you in league currency. Logbooks dump like dozens of rerolls on you later.

It's insanely rewarding, just have to read markers

[versed marlin]

It's not very rewarding early on and that's when most people complain about it from what I see

[mellow bloom]

yeah once I learned that the order of explosions matter I have plenty of currencies/logbooks to play with

[sweet osprey]

I believe a lot of ppl are making the mistake of not choosing the big value markers first/early, and going for too many markers instead of what they buffed early on

Anything with "drops logbooks" that you can run - prioritize, and then maximize charges for whatever that buffed, mobs or chests. Mobs are typically better. "chance to drop currency" is also very good

And artifacts

Logbooks with "chance for additional suffix" can be insanely rewarding

[jade crest]

Order matters? Had no idea

I just try to catch as many chests and cover all of the effects unless it's immune to physical

[mellow bloom]

yeah any remnant you blow up will only affect that explosion and subsequent ones

[jade crest]

isee

[mellow bloom]

so if you blow up 3 runic monsters at the start but the monster logbook remnant after

rip

[sweet osprey]

Exactly. I imagine most ppl make that mistake. As well as not knowing you can undo your placements

What you optimally want is to hit a "can drop logbooks", or currency/artifacts first, then focus on either mob markers or chests, whichever drops are being buffed by that first one. Additional remnants only if they happen to be in the area anyway and synergize (which usually happens anyway)

In logbooks with additional suffixes the later mobs in the chain start exploding in loot

Just have to pay attention to the mods and plan

[livid ermine]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Expedition/r0Jz5ZzHQ

how much do you think its worth?

i dropped it

[devout osprey]

honestly... its vendor price. sorry.

[livid ermine]

ahahaha

i thought tier 1 was good

[devout osprey]

t1 AS, and +1 to socketed gems is cool yeah, but t4 fire dmg and another t1 mod is life gained on hit

put yourself in the buyers shoes, when would u buy this

would u want +1 to gems instead of a high phys roll?

[livid ermine]

its ok i will see

prob sell it for about 15c

i have sold worse

[devout osprey]

yeah try it

dont go lower than divine orb price

[mellow bloom]

I made this thing with Rog

are there MoM block builds that use mana on block?

[haughty oracle]

Added vendor recipes for converting Instilling Orbs to Enkindling Orbs and vice versa

nice

[sinful helm]

I'll buy a boss kill Olroth

[maiden sluice]

Yaay, beautiful vaal I just got

[haughty oracle]

do remnant buffs affect only themself+ future explosions ?

[indigo wolf]

Yes

[silver ridge]

"Hits can't be evaded" expands on Dodge too or just Evasion chance?

[wooden zephyr]

evasion

dodge is different

[violet nymph]

How do I sell stuff

Nvm found out

[dim grail]

Which Logbook 'category' is best? I've heard Dried Riverbed is the best, is there some truth in that?

[violet nymph]

dried riverbed has 2 special mods

here is a spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sEKnzdZ2ixmiFlckyvFKX81_GroQ0KCYp_uvDNnnu_w/htmlview?usp=sharing&pru=AAABezvkJQw*_NfItxBfQexlRqXLYn5fTQ#

shipwreck reef seems better with scarabs tbh

[wooden zephyr]

so all locations can have heist?

[dim grail]

Thank you

[wooden zephyr]

or is this not an exhaustive list

[violet nymph]

idk I found this just now and it seems to be made last week

[wooden zephyr]

kk

i realy like the heist ones

[violet nymph]

I think they all can tbh

[safe island]

Oh my was it hard to press reroll on this. ssf life Sadge

[violet nymph]

Ouch

[queen blaze]

has anyone been able to get the "defeat the trio in crystal ore map while affected by RF"?

Ive tried doing it while I am affected by my own RF

Ive tried doing it while standing in the RF circle from the boss

neither seems to work

[sullen zealot]

wait, how do you do the "timeless conflict with 5 legions"?

I did 4 emblems and I thought you only needed to do one with two emblems

do you have to run a 5way?

[slender temple]

to unlock 5 way map device you do a 4 way

[fast portal]

anyone need a free sirus carry? just bored

[maiden coral]

@slender temple you saw the GGG post about lpre design of the Kalguur? It touches something that irks me about Tujen

"That also meant they couldn't be doing this for money, as one might otherwise expect from a merchant. "

"A man's gotta make a living!"

[bold otter]

so is ward any good?

[slender temple]

they are archeologists

or something

[maiden coral]

That one line from tujen makes it sound like they sell it back to black market

Which is funny, was a topic in my history class a few weeks ago

[lime delta]

does it matter wether we have cleared acts or level of character for tujun gambling ?

[past obsidian]

ward feels like ES

It does kinda work i guess

[indigo wolf]

More like aegis, which only existed in certain circumstances before. The recent elementalist rework is probably the most accessible.

Seems best for dodge/evasion builds but getting ward means you give up evasion so seems ineffective to me in that regard

On the other hand, I guess evasion was always entropic (no matter how much evasion you had, the chance to evade eventually decayed to 0%) and didn't work on spells anyway so I guess losing it isn't that big of a deal.

[violet nymph]

What changed with the update

[floral cobalt]

Ward is really good, its being under utilized right now though.

But yes, it indeeds works best with block/ev

Essentially youd want to get 1-2 pieces with a big ward roll for damage absorb to fill in for entropy and block.

I dont know what ilvl requirement for ward there is for T1 % but T1% seems to be 100%+ to ward.

I have a pair with 81 flat ward and 73% ward on glove which gives a pretty massive 320 ward, so id assume at the T1% state youd be looking at 400+ ward on a single pair of gloves/boots/helm.

[lilac saffron]

Ward is decent

[floral cobalt]

Yeah it looks like T1 is 90-100 for % and hybird is T1 is 30 based off what im trying to decipher from POE trade.

Soo yeah top end with just T1% and Flat ward id say you can expect almost 400 ward or so. Assuming you can get all three maybe up to 450-500 with absolutely top T1 rolls

So i mean all and all, if you can get 400 + life on each piece thatd net you 1200 absorption.

anywho im off here, time to farm

[storm crown]

Gl on that ex 😂

[craggy hinge]

Goodness that final boss on Act 8 was hard in expedition. I keep getting one shot from that fire lines not know when my character will stop walking. I died like 3 times untill my Artillery finally blasted the boss to bits.

[iron pagoda]

does anyone plays hollow plam ice crash raider?

[craggy hinge]

I think I will keep the ice shot over frenzy, more and all does a good damage.

[sullen isle]

anyone manage to find sumter the twisted in Estuary map?

[glad berry]

what does that icon mean? Expedition boss?

[livid lake]

where your last explosive is

[glad berry]

I meant the middle skull thing. But yea that was a boss all right lol

almost ripped because i pressed a chest during the fight and the screen filled up with alchs and chaoses. monkas

[violet nymph]

lmao

yeah bosses are cool B)

I got that boss too but sad thing is I was too greedy, took too many mods

one thing lead to another and I was getting one shot by smaller packs B)

[glad berry]

hardcore?

[violet nymph]

oh no no, not at all

its a suicide attempt doing logbooks on sc anyways

[glad berry]

haha good that at least. yea i was being a bitch with this. basically no mods because i didn't want to buff the boss

[violet nymph]

I don't have enough balls to do hc

honestly good for you, I think I messed up when I gave them 3 ailments to hit me with

oh and no evasion

but I find it a lot of fun tbh

fun factor is more important for me atm, delve was really boring

[glad berry]

yea i really like expedition. it gets tiring reading mods everytime but at least there is some engagement. not just blind fighting

[violet nymph]

True. Do the expedition bosses have any unique drops? I haven't seen any on wiki or other sources

[glad berry]

I got a unique ward flask. But probably only good for characters using ward as defense

not sure otherwise, haven't done any reading just playing hehe

[violet nymph]

I see yeah sadly most items are ward related

my build is probably not optimized for it

though its pretty unique to see a new type of defense

[glad berry]

yea can probably be interesting to try

[violet nymph]

oooh

I saw the new unique ward helmet

it has a mod that says "Increases and Reductions to Maximum Energy Shield instead apply to Ward"

ward also reduces any type of damage by it's amount afaik so that may be useful to some extend

[agile idol]

how do you counter the expedition monsters holding shields

I heard they drop them when they can melee you and you can get behind them but when I watch them reach my spectres they still barely take damage and when I convoke behind them they instantly 180

So it just is guaranteed to take forever to kill them

[jaunty aspen]

Hi anyone could tell me where I can find what do all these marks mean?

[wooden zephyr]

that one is blight

[jaunty aspen]

Indeed these two are similar...

Blight was the last league I played before AFK...but still it's kinda hard for me to recognize it without text -_-

[quartz echo]

Use the minimap icons.
https://poedb.tw/us/Expedition_league#MinimapIcons

[jaunty aspen]

Oh it's here... thanks!

[slender temple]

so are we pretty much waiting for ggg to tell us that gwennen has been buffed before doing any more exped trader stuff?

[lilac saffron]

Yes

They have to tweak the numbers

They are figuring out why 0 times 5 is still 0

[jaunty aspen]

ggg gonna buff gwennen? crap I just spent all...

[umbral sail]

is this bugged? Completed Scrublands yesterday and Vocanic Island now, no credit :/

oh, you have to kill every mob

[leaden belfry]

How do I complete this?

[indigo wolf]

Texts drop in expeditions (that you go on with logbooks). There are multiple texts but I don't know how many in total.

[fierce gate]

Thanks "The Void"!

[still turtle]

Is somebodyu playing Stone Golem build from Ethan?

[violet nymph]

open it

[floral cobalt]

when theres a skill effect sale but you only play melee and melee has virtually no decent skill effects. Feelsbadman. LUL

[crimson stirrup]

Can you put a Rog craft on hold if you can't afford the final step, or do you lose it?

[devout osprey]

in my experience u can

just X-it out for now and come back later

[crimson stirrup]

Thanks

[crimson stirrup]

Does Bloodlust work with reapers? They cause bleeding, but they're minions, not attacks.

[silver stag]

LF crafting service (Hope this is the right channel for it)

[white hill]

Please don't post discord invites

[crimson stirrup]

Just google "path of exile trade discord"

[eager charm]

can just link #trading @crimson stirrup

[floral cobalt]

do i buy prismatic double strike anyways or maybe crystal EQ hmmm

[queen blaze]

Anyone got any great ideas for the ramparts challenge with totems?

Ive been trying for like an hour now

the time window on the traps is around .3 seconds

and I just cant get the timing to line up

[queen blaze]

no, I cant even see the timer its so short

its stops my movement and thats it

[tribal briar]

Is there a list of the best Gwennen items

[tribal briar]

Thank you. How about anything for how to use Rog effectively?

[next epoch]

There's a lot of texts. Possibly as many as 35

[silk remnant]

O_O

[lilac saffron]

Rampage enjoyer

[next epoch]

hey the stun novas and explosions are pretty fun even if the monster spawn effects do literally zero damage

[crimson stirrup]

No problemo

[peak terrace]

gud meme

[prisma goblet]

can someone spawn me primal crush crab

[cunning blade]

go to global channel 6666@prisma goblet

[prisma goblet]

and where's that

sorry for my stupidness but ... i really don't know

oh in poe

?

[cunning blade]

yes

dedicated spectre players channel

[prisma goblet]

ok last question how do i switch channel -_-

[violet nymph]

./global ####

[cunning blade]

[dreamy spear]

Oh wow, finally progressed the expedition questline

[cyan tapir]

is this something i can unearth with explosives? or just map creation bug? cant pass that narrow entrance currently

[dim nova]

Yeah hit that with a dynamite. It’s good for a few chests but I haven’t seen texts in one yet

Of course make sure it highlights when the explosion radius is over it

[young vector]

did inquisitor get fucked over, there is a 0,5% of inquisitors in poeninja

like i have never seen the ascendency so low

[lilac saffron]

Yes

[young vector]

why

[lilac saffron]

They removed ailment immunity + consacrated ground doesnt give 100% inc crit

[royal elbow]

Is it worth it to start now?
Or is the league just more or less done for in terms of starting out?

[wet plaza]

It's the beginning of week 3

[frosty aurora]

do these require 2 explodes

i think i missed

[cyan tapir]

usually not. i think they sometimes dont explode if they are on the verge of the explosion radius, had that issue a few times

dont know if thats your case, but mine always unearth with 1 explo

[bold basalt]

yeah, the green radius is wonky especially on level differences

[exotic forum]

no immune to chaos or immune to physical?

[austere tulip]

does anyone know what to do with Vorania? She's killed me twice wih some debuff that I don't know, and it stacks like crazy when I run away frmo her

[silver kettle]

that would be the storm she creates. just avoid standing in the storm, stay in the centre once it's active

[crimson stirrup]

Pride doesn't count for the purposes of Commander of Darkness, does it?

[silver kettle]

not for the attack and cast speed, no

that attack and cast speed is being applied by the aura buffs themselves so if the buff (or in this case debuff) doesn't apply to you or your allies they don't get it

[austere tulip]

ah, I managed to kill her, running away was what killed me, you have to stay in the light

[crimson stirrup]

Thank you 🙂

So I could just run a low level Vitality or something

[frosty aurora]

again, strange

i made sure ive touched

[rose pasture]

The wet explosives league

Had this too, many times.

Even in logbooks..

[sullen scroll]

Okay i guess you need to pop the chest banners and not just remnants too for more loot

[craggy marten]

Are reroll currencies affected by artifact/currency remnants?

[cunning blade]

how hard do u guys juice ur logbooks?

Im rolling over anything rippy ( -max res, ele weakness, crit, no regen ) and rarely get any higher than 60%inc quant

[sweet osprey]

It's not worth juicing them too hard, honestly. I usually roll them blue for some irrelevant mods and bit of free quant. The real value comes from "extra suffixes" and good placement/layout.

You can chaos-spam and hope for mostly ez mods ofc, but it all scales with the remnants so you're spending Chaos for rather high risk and pretty low returns, imo

Ofc you can't rly fail either, so if you want to risk that and are fine with using a few portals, have at it. But i'd rather have the flexibility to stack juicy remnants and focus on those mods without worrying about AoE, crit, phys as extra, being cursed with Vuln etc

[hasty kraken]

is there someone delving right now in this league? i need a 6link for my corrupted chest.

[void yoke]

Extremely late league starter here - any specifics i need to take into consideration for this league?
(Builds, meta, the mechanics, what not to do, or?)

[indigo wolf]

All old builds need some tweaking due to mana support changes, some might be outright dead

[sweet osprey]

Anything involving block or evasion is king, bonus points for ailment mitigation. Trappers, totems, minions are stronger than usual due to mana changes and support nerfs

League mechanic is very SSF and league start friendly tho

[little drum]

Quick question, I got a logbook, do you only do one of the sites in it before you're done with it? I did it and now I don't have the book anymore

[hazy anchor]

Yeah. You only do one

Also, why is this league so... hated?

[quartz echo]

Generally because of all the nerfs that came with it.

[hazy anchor]

oh.

[quartz echo]

It's a shame. The mechanic itself is fantastic.

[sweet osprey]

League is pretty popular, nerfs are divisive. Reactions are largely overblown though, i find

[hazy anchor]

Oh. Guess I don't see the nerfs because when I last played I didn't even know defenses existed. I just took the armor with most... well... armor

[violet nymph]

Good to know. Extra suffixes has a big impact on loot?

[hybrid cosmos]

you can get 1 remnant with 2x 40% more Quantity

or find smth like 150% uniques in chests .. and you drop the whole pallet of starter uniques

[sweet osprey]

Yes, it gives you a chance to get remnants with two "chests or mobs have x% chance to drop currency/more quant" etc. It adds up really quickly

Basically suffixes are all good

Some prefixes are nice too "runic monsters are doubled"

If you stack em right, Logbooks turn into Legionesque lootsplosions by the end

[violet nymph]

Ah, nice

I just got into yellow maps after leapfrogging stones to make inner regions drop

And in whites expeditions aren't dropping much

[sweet osprey]

You need to make sure to target juicy remnants first, they affect every chain that comes after. So in maps: Logbooks>Currency>Artifacts>quant for me

[crimson stirrup]

I swear rooney monsters are not dropping artifacts a lot of the time since the last patch

They always dropped artifacts before

[violet nymph]

Man I hate how you have to chain things together in a certain order. It should all just apply upon first bomb

[sly tusk]

Alternative Version: the site is filled with pre-placed explosives but way more damage multipliers, you have to turn off explosives that will reck your build or amp monster damage up to much

[mellow bloom]

I kinda like the current version but then i kinda had fun with synthesis lol

[hybrid echo]

When Rog offers to reroll prefixes and keep the best ones, it always seems to remove life modifiers and almost never gets life modifiers. Is that because they are lower ilvl required?

or is my luck just garbage

[mellow bloom]

Yeah those rolls often trash your life mod

[neat rover]

are you guys enjoying expedition? PainChamp

[next epoch]

notice that he says it'll remove the lowest level one. life modifiers have relatively low levels, even for T1 life, and will usually be first in line to be removed

[sleek quail]

for all you average joes out there what builds have you had luck with not dying a lot? I don't wanna play SST :^) and I got about 9ex to my name

[torpid pewter]

Logbooks shouldn't be dropping lower level/tiered maps in high levels. I mean, any map is a usable map. Just don't feel like spending charges knowing I get t1's in a lvl 81-83 logbook

[sweet osprey]

Anything with block or evasion and optimally good ailment counters is strong defensively. Ppl tend to overly focus on Ascendancy options for ailments, there are numerous gear and tree options to solve this though.

[sleek quail]

ty for your input i decided on ice trap sab, level 76 rn and feels really good with tinker, mistcaller, wind dancer, aztiri steps, even using dread banner for less accuracy to nearby. did a t15 map at level 73 and only died because poison and didn't have flask on my bar yet :p

[quartz lantern]

Guys I decided to playy forbidden rite totem templar hierophant, im lvl 45 not yet using rite, I got some basic eq for about 100 chaos eq jewels pots, do you think I manage with basic eq maps t13 15 ?

Im actually worried about dmg, I see a lot of yt players rite but they got eq worth 100 ex :/ and Im pretty sure this looks totally different when you got 100 chaos to spend

[indigo wolf]

I have done A4 sirus on a 5L and only a medium cluster (which was about 50c for the important notable, maybe more now since it is very popular)

But I did feel kind of squishy, tolerable but can die easily in some circumstances. I got better once I invested more and got ailment immunity and more chaos resist

[maiden sluice]

Finally did something

slammed the fart

[pallid pike]

I'm level 45, it's normal I didn't get a single of these things to give to Dannig?

these "texts" to decypher

[midnight phoenix]

Its just lore dw about it too much

U will collect them later

[pallid pike]

same for logbooks?

[slender temple]

can get those in acts

i got 1 level 45 one i think

yep

somepeople get alot

i havent had that experience

[torn goblet]

Guys, could anybody please help me with the last phase of sirus? Thanks a lot

[tawny prism]

There are plenty of good vids out there. I would suggest.plahong with headphones too :)

[rugged knoll]

if you've tried sirus, this video will help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaiIZi5dRjs

it includes the audio cues which helps a lot

[tribal briar]

Any idea how frostblades gladiator is atm? Cyclone slayer really doesn't feel good to me.

[worthy briar]

Guys, mb someone have gamble item list?

[floral cobalt]

Are there any ways to generate frenzy on hit besides like the actual gem or using like Farruls Cats Stealth ?

[crisp tree]

body armour mod

frenzy skill

[floral cobalt]

ty was looking through the wiki page and didnt see many on hits. influence mod nice.

[slow lake]

https://i.redd.it/g5h397bn6sd71.jpg this?

[violet nymph]

[indigo wolf]

lol, better give up now, you spent your luck for the rest of your existence.

[tidal raft]

I just play the game and enjoy it and who believes in luck these days

[rancid ledge]

have anyone done the logbook boss conditional kills?

[frosty aurora]

3 mirrors 🙂

[lilac saffron]

Where are my 3 mirrors

[slender temple]

In your bathroom

[violet nymph]

above your bed

[lilac saffron]

Im above my bed

But no mirrors

[buoyant heron]

omg i just got headhunter from gwennen

[storm crown]

Gz

[steep mountain]

what are the grey swirly symbols in logbooks for?

[versed marlin]

A screen shot of the icon will get you an answer faster I would imagine

[crisp tree]

for Gwe gamba https://xanthics.github.io/poe_gen_gwennen/

[foggy spade]

damn this is what i was missing

[sweet osprey]

I believe you're referring to the random chests. Think they just drop artifacts and random stuff

[vast lynx]

For the podium things in expeditions that add the chest/monster modifiers - does the effect only start once that specific podium has been detonated, or does it kick in the instant you activate the detonator?

[silver kettle]

Only once that remnant has been detonated and only to monsters/chests unearthed at the same time or later in the detonation sequence

[vast lynx]

Hm, good to know, thanks

[lavish nimbus]

can you still do the valdo's rest watchstone strat, where you go "Harbingers in Areas drop rarer value Currency Shards" for easy mirror shards or is it not worth it in this league?

[versed marlin]

They hotfixed the drop rate of those mirror shards pretty quickly. It was still a strat last league and if you believe it was still worth running towards the end of last league nothing changed between leagues. The harbingers just spawn less rares now in 3.15.

[torn tapir]

IM looking for 1 and 3rd . trails in maps

[deft stirrup]

what are they?

[torn tapir]

1 sec

ill look

[devout osprey]

@torn tapir try global 820 channel, they sometimes share those trials

[vast lynx]

What's the point of refreshing Dannig's inventory?

[devout osprey]

you can find logbooks and those reroll coins

[vast lynx]

Ah nice

[distant lava]

The sacred grove is extra hidden 😦

[torn tapir]

any1 need a leach lv74

[next epoch]

You know what would have made Rog much funnier? If he screwed up his crafts for in-universe reasons.

Rog, the Dealer: Ever put a drop of Black Chimeral blood on a piece of equipment? I have. It's worth it, trust me.
Player: Sure!
Rog, the Dealer: Okay, one second while I-- *sneeze!* oh no. Oh no no no. Look, Exile, I swear this has never happened before, can I offer you a discount?

[rose pasture]

Uff.. its the end of the league alrdy?

Or just result of freshest baeclast talk..

[lilac saffron]

What do you mean

People are preparing for the next royale

[rose pasture]

Ppl are preparing to 3.17 now

[hybrid cosmos]

while i liked the baeclast talk overall its sad that 3.15 is just .. 3.15 by now

[honest thicket]

welp it is what it is, atm i just play 4-10 maps and call it a day

[maiden sluice]

So, I went from 5 to 10 demon cards. And got this.....

What a great day to be alive

[gray zealot]

i heard hh was nerfed this league?

[next glen]

Tujen's trading currency seems to be pricefixed rn, anyone knows what's the current rate of each?

[cunning blade]

this was up for 10ex economy this league is weird

[cunning blade]

rerolls are 1:6c
grands either 6 or 7 :1c
greaters like 95:1c
commons 100:1c
lessers 55:1c

is what im using to sell mine

[next glen]

tyty

[haughty oracle]

should i only kill once all the digsites are exploded so every monster gets the modifier ?

[potent fern]

Modifiers only apply to mobs that are released in the same explosion as the remnant pop, or later down the chain

a pack of mobs unearthed by the first explosion will not get the modifiers of a remnant popped by the second explosion

[floral cobalt]

"crafting is too hard"

Me crafting the last two leagues no issue.

1 essence, two exalts for a prefix lock, 1 veiled chaos or and 6 chaos orbs later.

now the question is do i use it or sell it, i should probably use it since i crafted it exactly how i need it LUL

wow my stat balance circus. Perfectly at 111 intlligence for infused channeling now.

Pain

[drifting lantern]

Are you having FUN yet exile?

[floral cobalt]

yeee baby

Now if i could craft some steel rings. Steel rings weighting is colossal dog poop even with the deterministic crafting.

I dont get why mana/es seemingly are weighted higher on steels than life. i wish i was joking but i spent probably 1000 alts and a pretty good chunk of augs and regals trying to roll one. Doesnt get much better with harvest either sadly.

But then again i could just not even bother with steel rings and just go vermillion. Im Facebreaker so the extra flat is pretty nice but not worth the headache.

the one i made thus far.

Probably just gonna have to harvest prefix reroll it til i get a decent life roll with flat or just life and craft flat.

I do have that steel ring next to it that has T1 flat, life and evasion but a couple crap suffixes that need rerolled.

Good thing is now though, i can fully invest into chaos res since my character is currently 165/165/165 and -30 lol

Cause i think ele weak cap in red is like, 103% now ?

[pure blaze]

Has anyone messed with that new impale skill

Boneshatter I think?

[sand knoll]

This feels like an exalt level rarity side by side https://i.imgur.com/jL0xmm7.jpeg

[floral cobalt]

mfw looking to resell my bronn lithe 6L again

and theyre like 30c

wat

might as well keep it and double corrupt it now lol

[sand knoll]

can thank delve & heist for that - they pump out low level uniques 6L often

[elder cairn]

I don't understand something about this league, when you get a "ancient text" in a cave, you just need to talk to Dannig that's all ? Or do you need to do something else during the logbook expedition

[pure blaze]

Hello

[lean heath]

@elder cairn just talk to dannig

@pure blaze helloooo

Boneshatter impale is okay

It's not great, it's not non-viable but it's very clunky

[slow lake]

no

[silk remnant]

ROG IS POG

[pure blaze]

So I'm making a build that's real cool so far and it's actually gonna let me do something I didn't know was possible

[simple maple]

What even are common artifacts used for? 😂 I have so many but nothing ever seems to cost common 😭

[floral cobalt]

pretty much, i think once you have full exploration of all log book zones its completed

[cunning blade]

pog

[floral cobalt]

yo gimme dat LUL

Damn they really murdered heges staff no wonder he dont play no more.

Was just looking through some old uniques and their changes and damn that shit got slapped with the nerf stick.

[supple galleon]

should probably stop using Lifesprig seeing as im about to hit level 68

[supple galleon]

eh it killed Kitava without me dying

[past badger]

Lifesprig all da wae to sirus

[livid lake]

@brisk wyvernNo.

[obtuse plume]

I ran 10 81+ logbooks today, felt like documenting the earnings so here they are. A small note, I think you can probably make 50% more currency than me if you practice the explosion placement and if you used more blessed orbs to get the implicits up to almost perfect. I stopped at 10% from perfect in the implicits.

Also I would be interested in trying an experiment to see if alching them is worth the extra risk of bricking a logbook due to dangerous mods. I think the answer is probably yes, the main reason youd brick them is because of remnant mods not logbook mods, but some science couldnt hurt.

I should also document income from scarabs and splinters which I was too lazy for.

[indigo wolf]

FPA?

And yes, while I guess it is a strong indicator that logbooks are profitable to start with (as you can double your investment just in artifacts), without including all the other various drops in your analysis I would say the result is incomplete.

[obtuse plume]

Fenumal plagued arachnid, the split beast. It's strange to buy them considering that each one goes for about 50c while the logbooks I'm buying are 45c, but it considerably speeds up the prep process because I only have to roll every pair logbooks' implicits once, which also saves blessed orbs. On top of that, logbooks with the qualities I'm looking for (either knights or black scythes in a good layout) are rather scarce so I'm happy spending 5c extra just to spend less time with my live search active. Today was basically a trial run.

[fair aspen]

Haven't played since Heist, have there been some changes to the backend? Game is incredibly choppy now

[indigo wolf]

A lot of people reported performance problems in ritual and ultimatum due to texture streaming being very aggressive, but it is a lot better now.

So for sure there have been a lot of engine changes since heist but I don't know specifically what to do about to help in your case.

[fair aspen]

Its the usual, old pc died, got better pc, game runs worse 🤷‍♂️

[indigo wolf]

I actually hadn't any real glaring problems myself, despite being on a 10 year old PC/GPU. (Except once when I tried a storm brand assassin with shock explosion, but that was build specific)

[fair aspen]

The twilight strand was painful to get through for a new character. I'll probably just have to mess with dumbing down settings that I shouldn't need to with a 3070 ti lol

[violet nymph]

try swapping between directx and vulcan graphic options

[fair aspen]

Interesting. That's way better. I hadn't used the vulcan option before

[devout osprey]

vulkan changed my game too, so much smoother and stable

[fair aspen]

Thanks for the tip @violet nymph

[violet nymph]

np np

[white badge]

is there a good regex search people are using for gambling

would be cool to get one pinned

[white badge]

that's a good one

[maiden coral]

@obtuse plume what layouts are best? if i may

[obtuse plume]

I really like Dried Riverbed, Forest Ruins, and Bluffs. I heard shipwreck reef is good for scarabs too. Avoid Slums and Temple like the plague, they're big layouts with many divisions where youll waste many explosions getting over terrain.

I also like Battleground graves becaues it's fairly compact and offers many legion splinters. I got about 2 sets of 50 splinters and change.

[maiden coral]

Thanks 😄 go for the drop remnants right?

[winter vine]

anyone know if an item like this could sell?

[maiden coral]

Do you TFT or stash tab sell your artifacts

[next epoch]

@winter vine not a chance, vendor trash

the elemental damage numbers may look big, but oro's sacrifice exists (800+ edps, ~1c)

[violet nymph]

Low effort mods are pretty decent.

[obtuse plume]

I put them in my stash tab. They tend to sell faster than I can even handle.

[maiden coral]

Oh wow 👀 using the poe ninj ratios? or nah

[winter vine]

thank you

[obtuse plume]

Honestly I just pick the rate the third result o nthe trade site gives. Might mean i fall victim to a price fixing scheme but whatevs, im still making money

I should probably use poe ninja

[indigo wolf]

I have to wonder about the people who are buying artifacts. It must be profitable for them but...

Does that mean they just sit in their hideout spamming stuff from the vendor?

At least with things like heist coins, you're buying them to run content.

[cunning blade]

yes

takes 0 gear investment and surprisingly little trading, so good if u can't clear hard content or just lazy

[pulsar burrow]

burned out from poe didn't play this league and the last league, but....i miss something important from poe, i think everyone else will miss it too if they don't play

and it hurts my soul.....

nothing else in any other games have this

g1 chat....

[violet nymph]

Global. Lol

I really don't like how remnant mods don't apply when you click detonation.

I wish they would change it to apply all mods at the same time. Probably making the mobs extremely dangerous, but that risk vs reward would be so much more.

More... instead of increased

[maiden sluice]

Uhh... Alright...

Kind of stupid

imo

actually never mind

wasn't that bad

[lilac root]

What's a good lvl to start rerolling at

[versed marlin]

Whenever you want to, everyone's goals for a league are different. Maybe you want a certain amount of currency to buy or craft your new toons gear before rerolling. Maybe you just want some leveling uniques.

[violet nymph]

I mean you stacked 3 30% modifiers up yourself.
Would have been on you not ggg if it went badly.

[maiden sluice]

would've been on ggg either way. They put it in the game lmao

[violet nymph]

You didnt read. You had the choice. Your fault not theirs.

[next epoch]

game has plenty of precedent for "read the modifiers before they fuck you up"

[maiden sluice]

🤓 you didn't read. I'm so smart, better than you and you had a choice

[lilac saffron]

There is no choice

You close your eyes and slam the detonation

Where is the fun otherwise

[next epoch]

it's "alch and go", not "alch and read the mods and go"

[mellow bloom]

Though i do usually get logbook from her expeditions

[queen blaze]

whats the min ilvl to spawn bosses in logbooks?

[quaint heart]

what build are people using to do the feared maven?

seems like a paiun in the ass

[obtuse plume]

68. If youre running them listen to dannig's dialogue. If he singles out a faction like if he says "you can tell this is a black scythe logbook..." run the site of that faction. Ive done about 20 logbooks and all 3 bosses ive found so far have been in the site that matches his dialogue.

Also I think the chance to find a boss is better than 3/20 if you do this method. I did a fair amount of targetting black scythes so I missed some times he said to go to some other site. Also 20 is a pretty small sample size.

[next epoch]

20 is a pretty low sample size indeed, but it wouldn't surprise me if the base rate were 10%. It'd be consistent with past league mechanics, like the 10% chance to encounter Trialmaster in Ultimatum

[indigo wolf]

Trialmaster was 2% wasn't it?

[next epoch]

You know, you might be right, in which case ignore me

[lime fractal]

So how do I need where to buy the artifacts in bulk? And how do I find fair price?

Looking on Poe ninja it says it’s 1c per 6 artifacts

But on trade site it’s listed 2 per 1c

[cunning blade]

@lime fractal

bulk trading is mainly done on discord

[cunning blade]

don't look at the top prices, those are usually fixers

also, search from the perspective of buyer, not seller

[cunning blade]

go down a few prices and see where it starts to have multiple people having same ratios

lessers are like 50:1c afaik, rerolls and grands are 1:6c and 6:1c respectively

no idea about commons and grands, they seem to sit around 90-100 :1c

for Tunjen

[lime fractal]

@cunning blade ty that makes sense

[fossil jacinth]

Im looking for a group to play with. New

[narrow marten]

can anyone pls add me in game and help me kill a bestiary monster?

[storm crown]

Got 4 sec to really kill them!

[violet nymph]

Anyone tried whispering ice this league

[livid lake]

unless they reverted the change to it, unlikely its good still

[violet nymph]

I think its still capped at 10 storms. Old was 1-3 dmg hit twice as fast no cap
Nowdays its 10 storms 2-5

Im concider leveling my int stack lightning dagger with wi until i can afford the hunter exhalt as im too poor as i can only play weekend

[violet nymph]

So kinda bad with cap

I looked at it its even worse xd

5 cap

[wet wing]

lmao

HH with Gwen

lmaooooo

[livid lake]

GZ

[late ember]

does corrupting logbooks add quant or no effect?

[storm crown]

mods are what has quants

so if you get more mods you get more guants

[brisk wyvern]

Act 9 starting any1, am lazy now.

Someone carry me 🤘👉👈

[haughty oracle]

do passive that give you "increased defences from equiped shield" increase the damage you deal with shield crush ?

[livid lake]

no

[haughty oracle]

😦

[storm crown]

went from 1 large cluster to 3 clusters... the diffrence is huge i feel

about 2.5million damage more 🤔

[indigo wolf]

Does "increased artifacts" affect stack size or stack count? And I assume increased rarity only applies to normal->magic->rare->unique of equipment, not artifacts?

[livid lake]

stack size, no.

[rare quarry]

is this worth 4ex?

[proper widget]

probably

[crystal apex]

+1 max spectres and decent stats

[rare quarry]

Thanks for confirming

[primal willow]

I finally drop a medved logbook and guess what happens

it fucking dcs

during the fight

played every day since league started never dropped a medved one until today, and of course, this happens.

[rancid ledge]

any aurabot looking for simu leech?

[south birch]

anyone willing to sit down for like 30 min and help me with act 9 and 10?

[old steeple]

hey boys and girls. im looking for builds to run with my headhunter? im not a guy that farms mirrors so budget (have hh) is kinda low. so looking for a mapping but that uses hh well and can start working on kinda low budget. any idea's?

[violet nymph]

is the ex even worth waiting for lol, so much of other currencies and rerolls

[cunning blade]

anything thats phys to elemental convert and not dot, preferably crit

idk any builds tho

[cunning blade]

are u losing anything by not rerolling now?

u can also just buy the currency needed to get the exalt

and still make a profit

[indigo wolf]

I think that cold convert SST would work for a HH, just based on criteria. I don't know if it is the best choice though.

(Also expensive to invest in)

SST accounts for 23% (16% superior + 7% phantasmal) of headhunter users on poe.ninja, the biggest slice of them.

[fair aspen]

oh, did my first logbook. that was fun

i like this mechanic

[faint nymph]

what level are people gambling for asenath's gentle touch?

[slender temple]

i think its ilevel 25

[violet nymph]

just play worb

[past badger]

Is there specific level zone i need to be to gamble hh from gwennen?

I dont imagine so, just wanna be sure

[prisma goblet]

anyone can fix me up with some delve lithomancer spectres ? thank u

[prisma cliff]

guys, for TRRaider - TR regular, phantasmal or anoomalous?

[crystal apex]

regular

[prisma cliff]

ok, thank you!

[rotund surge]

Is it worth it to roll Exotic Coinage?

[rose pasture]

What is the day of the league today?
Maby someone have counter?

Edit
25 days

That was needed to see how much time I needed to do 36 challenges. Wow. And dat was the toughest league from all I remember..

[lilac saffron]

Maybe it will be better after the patch

[violet nymph]

yes, if you're someone like me who doesn't give a shit about expedition currency prices

[dark tangle]

Hey I'm aurabot and looking for someone to play with. Stuff is Ok but I need to xp (im lvl 80)

[pine crater]

Did the patch drop yet?

[silver kettle]

30 minutes from now

[pine crater]

Appreciate that. Thanks.

[crimson stirrup]

Patch dropped. Rog's much improved

[mellow bloom]

roogers no longer poogers

what was dannig's minimum conversion rate? lowest i saw was .5

[pseudo pilot]

bro rog's upgrades are so crazy now

[obtuse plume]

I sent a spreadsheet here of a breakdown of the earnings from 10 logbooks I ran but someone said I should have included more details! So I'm running 24 more, already ran through most of them pre-buff here's the data from the first 7. I ran them mostly just trying to see what types remnants and chests were most common and buffing those, but it seems even if your logbook doesnt have those many artifact chests it might be worth grabbing all of them because artifacts are so valuable in SC trade.

Also I bricked a Vorana fight the first time I tried her today (had killed her before in a lower level logbook on a different character so i underestimated her). Did manage to get her later and got tons of exotic coins but I havent entered the data from that logbook yet.

Anecdotally it looks like reroll currency only drops from runic monsters, meaning that grabbing any generic quant or artifact quant remnants for monsters is the best strategy, and even when running layouts like Shipwreck Reef and Cemetery with valuable secondary rewards such as delirium splinters and scarabs most of the revenue still comes from artifacts.

Not only that but artifacts sell much quicker, scarabs and splinters won't always sell that quickly.

Also the exalted drop may or may not be an outlier. I've had 2 separate exalted orb drops from logbooks this league, one of which was a stack of 2, out of maybe 40 logbooks I've run. As always though the more rare the event the more n you need to filter out the noise so take those stats with a grain of salt.

Anyway my rec is still to run tight layouts and prioritize artifacts. Forest ruin, Dried Riverbed, Bluffs, and Shipwreck Reef have given the best results for me, Cemetery can sometimes be valuable if you can stack enough simulacrum splinter drop chance and runic mobs, but my problem with it is the abundance of walls which make pathing harder. You could say the same about forest ruins but forest ruins has many guaranteed hidden areas with extra chests in the cornes, so even if youre forced into a corner to grab a valuable remnant you can still grab some chests and theyll be affected by remnant mods. I think it's also more open than Cemetery in general.

Also some trade speculation: Tujen haggling got buffed overall because his most expensive trades won't be worth thousands of artifacts anymore. I believe this should mean lower demand for lesser, common, and greater artifacts, but higher demand for grand artifacts and exotic coins. This is because people will no longer get "stuck" with a decently valuable trade worth thousands of a cheap artifact, so they will reroll more, and will get more highly valuable trades worth hundreds of grand artifacts, if I understand the change correctly. If grand artifact prices are lower nower as well, then I'm not fully sure what the effect on the exchange rates are gonna be but I think exotic coins are most likely going to become more valuable.

The meaning for logbook farmers is then to make sure to buff bosses well and understand how to fight them (i gotta work on that haha) since they are by far the best source of reroll currency. A single boss kill can net a couple dozens of the reroll currency they are associated with, more than youd get normally in 10 logbooks

For the majority of logbooks where bosses dont spawn, make sure to snipe out any "runic monsters are duplicated" remnants since I've found runic monsters are the only source for reroll currency. I think quant of artifacts dropped will also affect stack sizes there, so if you want to drop fat stacks of exotic coins make sure to grab those remnants.

A couple stacks of 3 and 4 and you already made back the cost of the logbook on exotic coins alone.

[violet nymph]

Whispering ice works nice just have to build crit without echo nowdays

[obsidian marlin]

Rog crafting is amazing now

[rotund surge]

fuck me, I rolled them before the patch.

[lilac saffron]

nah it doesnt seem much different dont worry

you didnt lose much

I mean its definitely better

in terms of what he asks for

[empty crystal]

thx @obtuse plume

[granite maple]

Can you please help me how to do the stupid challenge with 15 fuckign orbs? its just so stupid I cant even comprehend it.

First, you spend 15 minutes whispering people to trade you the map, then you run to the boss, spend 10 minutes trying to position him so you dont accidentally kill those idiotic orbs and then you still accidentaly do that, so go to beginning.

So frustrating.

[cunning blade]

ppl saying u need

twinned map for it

others say its bugged

we don't know lol

[livid lake]

there was a patch that should have addressed a few of the issues

[versed marlin]

You can just stack the orbs up in a corner real easy and drag the boss to the other side, repeat for 3 waves of orbs and you're sorted

[haughty oracle]

so when i have 2 digsites with 35% unique item and 2 with 300% increased rarity dropped, do u unearth the 2 unique sites, or the 300% ones first ?

[crimson stirrup]

If you want uniques, do the uniques first. It doesn't get any more rare than unique

[little drum]

So when doing sites, do I have to wait for remnants to detonate for their effects to take hold?

[silver kettle]

They don't apply till they've been detonated, yes. But they also only apply to monsters and chests unearthed in the same or later explosions — waiting for them to explode doesn't make them apply to anything that was unearthed before that

[little drum]

Thats... annoying lol

So if I have an orange chest and I want a remnant that increases unique chance, I need to set the orange chest to det in the same explosion or after?

[versed marlin]

Yeah that's correct

[little drum]

Alright, ty

[floral cobalt]

Rog OP

6xT1 Diamond Ring LUL

[slender temple]

synth it to get a useful implicit

[indigo wolf]

I should probably start spending my artifacts

Before they realize they buffed gwen and rog too hard

[void wing]

Wdym too hard, Rog still only reliably makes life res gear.

You want big ticket items you need to get pretty lucky.

Not saying he's bad, but people present it like he's spewing top tier items every reroll.

[prisma goblet]

is alching logbooks worth if your unsure if u can manage them without dying

[tawny pasture]

The awnser is in the question

[prisma goblet]

talking to me ? :p

[tawny pasture]

Yup

[prisma goblet]

yeah if u can manage them without dying it is worth... nice one

🙂

ok harsh lesson worth 20C