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sage timber
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if you can post it on reddit please do so ggg can see

violet nymph
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How do I interact with the new league mechanic? I mean, I know how to get the chests and I have a lot of artifact currency, what is the best way to spend it ?

livid lake
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you can buy stuff from the npc's that are in the area where you excavated, or they are in town as well, their inventory doesn't reset until you give them the correct currency to reset it, so basically just buy whatever you want then wait to get a reroll token

violet nymph
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What is the point though? Should I just target jewellery, or any clever way to get good items through that league mechanic?

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I tried making new characters and getting a bunch of Simple Robe's to get tabula, after 20 characters I quit doing that

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I don't feel like doing the league mechanic because all that stuff I can't spend cleverly

livid lake
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point? loot i guess

violet nymph
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loot what?

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the upgrade guy is really good don't sleep on him

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the currency they drop, the artifacts. How should I spend it to get good gear?

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his base items are kinda whatever, but just look for the base type, not the stats on it. you can reroll most of the stuff on them pretty easily

jade furnace
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So, is this game bugged or is it just me?

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I can't name my tabs.

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i type the name

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i press enter

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and it becomes nothing

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poof

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gone.

livid lake
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don't you need to press the tick

jade furnace
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i tried that too

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nothing

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ive played this game since 2011

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never had this issue

livid lake
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restart, if that fails message support

jade furnace
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oh, what the actual fuck

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apparently, i just had to open my stash again

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slay confused.

livid lake
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😄

full granite
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game crashing at lab level picker, tried clear shader cache with no effect

heady vigil
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how hard are the logbooks?

full granite
floral cobalt
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melee has been brutal as soon as i hit act 8 oof

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at least with the expeditions

brisk orchid
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everything is brutal tbh the changes this league really suck and

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not gonna lie i dont think many players will be playing this league

violet nymph
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I wonder if you can buff the attack speed of the reaper

brisk orchid
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you can with minion speed etc

floral cobalt
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the mechanic itself is really rewarding

brisk orchid
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but i think its got too low atk speed at default to be that amazing of a summon

floral cobalt
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but the general gameplay is a bit bloated and the nerfs hit the lower end way harder than the top end ceiling.

brisk orchid
floral cobalt
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Yeah i just used my logs white, monsters too strong.

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I got 2 exalts out of a currency chest

brisk orchid
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i mean non of the changes really apply to me because im a minion build so

violet nymph
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I’m just trying to think of combos that will work with the reaper

floral cobalt
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ima be back in a few i gotta go to the grocery store

violet nymph
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And see what will it not eat

brisk orchid
violet nymph
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Even skeletons

brisk orchid
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yeah

violet nymph
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That’s a first

brisk orchid
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it eats everything and buffs itself

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it even eats animate guardian which is why no one likes the skill gem

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because animate guardian is just better

violet nymph
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But the does do a lot of damage of with buffs i think

brisk orchid
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yeah im still using it through the story im helping a mate rn

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i think it would work well

violet nymph
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I’m console

brisk orchid
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in a golemancer build with leige of primordial

violet nymph
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So got to wait until Tuesday

brisk orchid
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oof

violet nymph
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But it gives me time to think

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I don’t see the reaper as a summoner

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Class

brisk orchid
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yeah i mean it fits a nische that doesnt exist

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and ggg are trying to make the gameplay slower im fine with it being slower but the nerfs are making it so were slow and useless while most endgame enemies can sprint like usain bolt and hit like dios roadroller

violet nymph
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Minotaur

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That’s a annoying boss fight

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But still the reaper looks fun and can deal with rares

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But not big crowds of ads

brisk orchid
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yeah the one thing is ggg wants us to use it as a "one minion army" but it has no clear so yeah.... XD

violet nymph
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But I wish it was a golem

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So we can use two of them

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Then maybe it will be decent

brisk orchid
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eh maybe

violet nymph
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But there is some tailsmen that could buff the damage of the reaper and attack speed

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But now flasks are just meh

maiden sluice
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I think I'm done with this league, it is just not fun being one shot and stunned by monsters so that you literally cannot do anything. Thank you for ruining the game GGG

brisk orchid
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there gonna revert the changes

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i mean if they dont the game dies this leage guaranteed

maiden sluice
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Yea... I really hope they do something

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Because it really is not fun atm

violet nymph
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And maybe buff some things

maiden sluice
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Yea

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They atleast have to buff the damage output you do

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That shit is WEAK

violet nymph
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honestly, i think the ideal fix is just make the lower level stuff stronger, and keep the top end values of levels the same.

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this way the nerf still applies where it's needed, but doesn't make the slowest part of the game, slower.

silver cave
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I found the ancient kalguran text but i cant pick it up nor talking to dannig does nothing, what should I do?

indigo wolf
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They don't want to buff the low end. They want the game slower.
The top end is "far too fast" but the "mid-tier" is also too fast

violet nymph
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it would not raise the overall power of builds but make things feel better

indigo wolf
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Personally, 'm fine with the game being a bit slower, but I feel the defensive flask changes were extreme. Only 1 second of immunity and only if you had that effect when you used the flask basically does nothing for situations

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And 100% avoid maps with curses now, I guess.

silver cave
indigo wolf
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I've heard of people with that problem, but I haven't see anyone respond with a solution. I haven't done one yet myself

crimson stirrup
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Does Blade Trap AOE scale with weapon range?

heady vigil
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logbooks are pretty fun

copper cargo
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how do you fix this?

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i cant move the circle anywhere

violet nymph
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Place it near last position

heady vigil
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the explosive charges are really jank in indoor areas

past badger
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Just me or explosive placement a bit.....clonky?

empty crystal
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feels a like bit clonky for me too

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indoor areas are a good example where you have to waste another placement to get through

past badger
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I mean im still in acts, even there is feels bad

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Aye

empty crystal
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yeah

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that feeling will stay with me I think

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felt the same about blight in blight league too though, now I changed my mind about it

sick glade
swift wren
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I haven't had too many issues, as far as walls and doorways go it seemed more like a radius thing so the doorway didn't matter

dim nova
sterile aspen
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How do you all cry so much? Making the game harder is good

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Don’t you all get bored of the game being the same@

maiden sluice
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No

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path of exile is supposed to be a grindey

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game.

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It's not supposed to be hard

hollow blade
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it is

maiden sluice
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It is not.

hollow blade
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go play diablo if you want an easier game

maiden sluice
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I'd rather just wait until ggg buffs their fucking game

hollow blade
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poe needs to cater to the old school veterans of arpgs

quaint saddle
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best of luck everyone i have uninstalled the game for the time being

maiden sluice
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so that it'll be good again

hollow blade
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because it's the only game that does so

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they aren't gonna buff the game

quaint saddle
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if poe caters too much to the old school veterans then its already doomed. people nowadays do not have the time nor the patience to slog through it again

maiden sluice
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Exactly mikey

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it is fucking

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Boring.

quaint saddle
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if you want a prime example take a look at Wildstar

maiden sluice
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It is not fun playing when everything fucking kills you

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It's so fucking frustrating

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I legit can't.

hollow blade
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then poe is not for you

maiden sluice
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This update is not for me

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The old grindy poe is for me

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and for like 60% of the community

violet nymph
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Can't wait to get my hands on D2R ancient

hollow blade
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ever since the game came it has only become easier and easier and thus boring af

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and i had no point in playing until now

maiden sluice
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The game has become easier yes, but also more fun. Since you can hack and slash through the monsters

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this is a fucking hack and slash game

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not a strategic and slow game

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I am actually fuming

floral cobalt
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implying you still dont ram monsters brainlessly

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what a knee jerk-reddit reaction imo.

hollow blade
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you don't understand that it is still possible to achieve that power as before. It is just way harder to do now

violet nymph
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Not really

maiden sluice
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Yea, and that's why it's boring

hollow blade
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it's because you have no patience

maiden sluice
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That may be true

hollow blade
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because you expect the game to just give you that benefit for free

maiden sluice
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Yea but like that benefit is what makes it fun

floral cobalt
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Im level 68 with no ascendancy and just got my first upgrade out of like 120 dps 1h weapons, with no ascendancy at all, as melee strikes. And we got people in here whining that game is too hard lol

maiden sluice
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it's fun to grind through monsters

hollow blade
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then why don't u just play diablo?

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it's exactly that

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easy hack and slash

maiden sluice
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I like poe's economy better

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I'd much rather play poe

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than diablo

quaint saddle
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there will be changes before long

maiden sluice
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Yea, if not, I'm gonna quit this league

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100%

quaint saddle
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i already have quit the league and so has most of my friends

maiden sluice
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Yea and honestly, just the fact that pretty much every build besides trap and mine builds have been nerfed is so stupid.

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I'm currently stuck at act 9 at that glacier map. I legit cannot even kill some monsters and keep going without dying to a one hitter

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It is so frustrating man

cunning blade
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midget stealth nerf incoming? he seems strong af

maiden sluice
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I'm no where near the recommended gear but like come on.

floral cobalt
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Also log book fractures are probably going to bring back insane crafts.

cunning blade
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fat man is so rng tho

floral cobalt
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people are sleeping on this league cause reddit said its bad.

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This league has soo much loot and mechanics its nuts.

hollow blade
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i agree

maiden sluice
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well that is definitely true

hollow blade
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the league is very fast to interact with

maiden sluice
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In my opinion, the monsters should just get a bit nerfed

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they're so strong it's insane

floral cobalt
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I dropped 2 exalts in a level 37 log book by focusing currency in it

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too funny

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anyways heading to bed, lucky drops to yee all.

maiden sluice
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Thank you

cunning blade
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its fun

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but its got some fucked up issues

violet nymph
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Im brutus lead sprinkler spectral helix juggernaught. What is clearspeed

cunning blade
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like benevolent guardian, blessing of elements rare mods really need to go

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literally spend 2 mins just sitting at a chokepoint killing the 100+ expedition mobs cuz 1 rare spawned with it

nova shard
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(based on steam data)

floral cobalt
nova shard
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last league was 155k not 110k

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also i did the math myself, not from reddit

floral cobalt
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theres no correlation other than making assumptions from league to league.

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By that logic ultimatum was the best league released based on peak player count.

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Well not ultimatum actual, the onther one barely had more numbers, ritual i think was before that.

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Anyways other league people said were better than both of those had significantly lower peak player counts.

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Thers literally 0 data you can gather by making assumptions off steam charts.

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It doesnt account for anything like, player burnout, CODVID lockdowns ending and people going back to work, etc. No one has the data.

nova shard
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well if you don't want to compare between leagues, you can see that 21% of people have stopped playing by saturday, much higher than any other league before this

floral cobalt
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If we were to actually make an accurate assumption the most likely thing is people are tired of Atlas.

nova shard
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and that's despite servers being stable.

floral cobalt
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People stop for various reasons, yall need to quit making assumptions and acting like doomsday preppers. Also POE likely not the game for you anyways if you quit this easily.

hollow blade
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^

floral cobalt
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Anyone who quits in 2 days never had the POE spirit to begin with. Good riddance imo.

nova shard
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well then PoE is not the game for 40%+ of its previous playerbase then I guess

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GGG's loss

untold raptor
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should you not be able to pick on ancient Kalguuran Text?

nova shard
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I'm sure they enjoy having their playerbase (and revenue) down by half

floral cobalt
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Yall always say the games dead and they always keep consistent numbers and even grow.

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You guys are forgetting reddit and shit is the vocal minority.

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Most people dont go on forums having a bitch fest cause theyre too busy having fun.

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Reddit/official forums are literally a drop in the bucket of what is the player base.

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Reddit is especially bad because its hive mind and easily manipulated with voting system.

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And people who tend to have similar views obviously are going to seek others out with the same views and stay in their own bubble.

untold raptor
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Anyone here that have completed "The Lost Expedition"?

floral cobalt
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I think its kinda buggy vamp.

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You said you couldnt pick the text up ?

untold raptor
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yep

floral cobalt
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isnt the texts found from logbook expeditions ?

untold raptor
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yeah i have found it

floral cobalt
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If soo i picked one up no problem when i did mine soo its probably a bug.

untold raptor
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but can´t speech with dannig

floral cobalt
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id do /bug and report it to GGG that you cant pick it up

untold raptor
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will try

floral cobalt
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other people said they cant too soo thats prob the case its just a bug, which sucks cause logs arent exactly plentiful lol

untold raptor
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i am maybe just lucky

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had 6 so far

carmine citrus
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Hello guys. May I ask where the trade page?

hollow blade
floral cobalt
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Trade page was removed at some point, theres a separate discord for it if thats what youre asking about

carmine citrus
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no. trade in discord.

hollow blade
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TFT is better

floral cobalt
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its called "path of trading" separate discord

hollow blade
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The Forbidden Trove

carmine citrus
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ok thanks guys

white hillBOT
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Please don't post discord invites

floral cobalt
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im dm you the inv wont let you post it here for some reason

maiden sluice
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What builds are you guys running?

hollow blade
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reaper

violet nymph
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Planning on doing reaper when it comes out on console

haughty oracle
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what would be better for shield crush, duelist or templar ?

hollow blade
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duelist

hollow osprey
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Templar goes with Battlemage Cry now

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Looks really really niche

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Manabond? Idk

blissful spindle
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Anyone been talking about expeditions not dropping hardly any loot? or am I going crazy?

tired spindle
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The loot comes from the vendors

blissful spindle
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Just had this, monsters didn't drop one piece of currency or artifacts

livid lake
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you're supposed to get loot?

blissful spindle
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:/

wooden zephyr
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anyone playing dominating blow? the league mechanic feels pretty bad w/ this

hollow osprey
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Yeah I have to explain to my friend that looting boxes are a waste of time and the real rewards came from the vendors

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He got his first Tabula from the gamble girl

blissful spindle
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But I cant even seem to get the "reroll" artifacts to drop

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to engage with the vendors

hollow osprey
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Not really a waste of time but considered how they only drop the artifacts

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Idk

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wait you haven't met the exchange vendor

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?

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Just use it

slow lake
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I cant roll that dude either

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So far i have dropped 1 scrap metal and about 30 gambling reroll items

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Nothing else

blissful spindle
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yup, only gambling rerolls. really infuriating

wind sundial
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So do you have to do 'The Lost Expedition' in act 3?

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I haven't found anything related to it and I thought it was just an 'over time' thing.

violet nymph
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Maraudon

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Mara making udon

wooden zephyr
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soo the poison remnant mod seems pretty disgusting

halcyon veldt
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expedition buff order matters?!?!?

versed marlin
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Just how they said it did in the league info stream

severe lily
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/globe 100 yo

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/global 100 yo

untold dragon
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when haggling with Tujen, is each time independent of each other? In other words, if you buy something very cheap from him once, can that have any influence over him the next different item you buy?

hushed temple
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I have being playing POE at least 8 years by now and I'm quitting playing it in 3.15 ! now this is why :

The best Action RPG game out there. Lots to do. Occasionally fun with race and events. But its a genuine "waste of time".

After 3.15 Everything is designed to take as much time as possible, the alternative being up to months of grindy hell, and old playstyle mechanics, progression is just glorified gambling with no good reward and TERRIBLE Trade System even the console trade system is better. The combat system before 3.15 was amazing though, with all the new changes becoming a lot HARDER game for beginners with that being said not an appealing game anymore.

The game is just a time sink though. Instead of grinding the same content and trying new skills in game every league, you should find a hobby and make something irl.

Would be about the same time, effort, and money investment into Cosmetics, and you'll have a real skill to show for it.

indigo wolf
verbal wyvern
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the amount of times i've accidentally hit the detonate instead of walking past it YIKES

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keep it as a button on the UI, not a physical entity

honest ivy
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just don't click on it ez

lean heath
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Anyone playing ice trap sabo here? I need some help w it

honest ivy
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leveling my flameblast voltaxic vortex build rn sorry

indigo wolf
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I just started maps as tripolar's ice trap sabo

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But this is my first league playing it so I don't know if I can answer your questions

violet nymph
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Whats tripolar i know what bipolar is

indigo wolf
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Tripolar bear is a streamer

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I don't think tripolar exists as a recognized psychological status

lucid stone
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Does projectile speed do anything to eye of winter? It doesn't really feel like it.

mild ingot
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what are even these runic mobs

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i once even stacked 50%+50% currency drop form them and still no orbs at the end

placid drum
# mild ingot what are even these runic mobs

Runic = The ones with Ward. They actually have "Runic" as a modifier to them if you hover over them. Look for the "big" skulls on sticks, those typically are the runic monsters, though sometimes the small ones can be runic as well.

mild ingot
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i had the same theory as you @placid drum

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so its either the mods that are bugged, or these arent actually the runics

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omg Rog's mechanic is SO badly explained

silk remnant
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I f*cking LOVE Rog

mild ingot
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i crawled my way to maps with negative resist and shitty gear cause I didnt understand how to get gear from this league

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I thought rog was basiacally hargan 2.0....

silk remnant
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At act 6 his stuff is a lifesaver

mild ingot
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yea thye should have exaplined it better

eager urchin
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Dude that Gwennen thing is fun as hell

static token
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Gwennen thing? You mean gambling?

mild ingot
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i dont inderstand gwennen either

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she just gives me magic trash

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i only like midget dude who gives me chaos

static token
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It's fairly straightforward. You give money for the small chance it will be good, and a large chance it will be crap. And the house always wins.

mild ingot
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so why is it fun?

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i have been skipping her recently

static token
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Some people like going to a casino, and consider that fun. I don't, but some people do.

silk remnant
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occasional "not shit 6 mods items"

mild ingot
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i id better stuff from the ground...

silk remnant
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to sell for fragments, maybe

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for me she has better than average rng

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But Rog has solved my ES issues at level 50 with 3 encounters

fast crest
# mild ingot she just gives me magic trash

She gave me a magic Sceptre... which had T1 added spell Fire. So I just crafted cast speed and slapped it with a regal because it was an upgrade over my scuffed early act drops :V

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And I'll probobly try to improve it with Harvest Fire crafts

rapid tiger
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Wouldn`t it be better to see how much of the new expedition currency we have while shopping

versed marlin
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Seems like a pretty obvious fix they'll add in soon imo, they've already received lots of feedback suggesting that

tired spindle
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okay i figured out how to use the expeditions, i had a mod that gave 35% chance runics to drop uniques and then hit all the runics i could after getting that one first. got 5 uniques to drop

devout osprey
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sir, 4 life flasks??

tired spindle
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i havent found anything else!

waxen edge
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more life flask gives you better survival i guess

violet nymph
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Lifetap

silk remnant
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"Rerolls sockets on item 100 times, keeping the best outcome" on chestpiece is op

bold wagon
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is this league just abyss league mixed with ritual?

tired spindle
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with expedition logbooks do you only choose one of the locations to go to?

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i turned in 1 and picked a location and im done with it and dont see an option to go to the other one

formal ruin
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anyone running beachhead maps for xp?

somber bison
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anyone find any bosses in logbooks yet?

plain kiln
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To anyone still lvling: alira bandit reward is really cool with the change to mana

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Take that and clarity and throw your lvling mana flask In the face of ggg

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Its stupid that they changed bunch of stuff to flask but you don't get access to it till map

full oasis
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nice league

restive crescent
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3.15 Sirius fight teaser!! Featuring Innocence T posing and being invisible! Tune into Expedition league NOW!

torpid pewter
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Does the Ancient texts work?

floral cobalt
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i think my build is bugging out the game :l

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i think theres a bug with melee splash+tribal fury and Replica WOE

proud raptor
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Tujen wtf

floral cobalt
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anyone else getting lag in washington dc gateway servers ?

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Server im on is going from like 60-500

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like what

inland summit
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I like the league mechanic but feels its pretty low on rewards

abstract pelican
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is there any guide to league chests etc?

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I still have no idea what drops what, and what to target

rough phoenix
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Tujen sold me 10c but i went too low

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So much pain

honest ivy
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well they don't want to reward players "too much" now

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we lost our reward privileges

serene furnace
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Anyone able to recommend a league starter? I missed the last few, usually do Kay's summoner but wasn't sure if that worked this league?

slim canyon
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Pretty sure Kay's summoner has been updated for Expedition. Ice Trap is also pretty easy & safe as well.

honest ivy
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shield crush is also working prett gucchi so far

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voltaxic is also good

past obsidian
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@honest ivy I can't clear legions fast enough with crush

honest ivy
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wha movement skill you using?

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cause i'm planning on transitioning into ambush

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also are you using seething fury? or are you going non crit?

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cause if you're not going crit i don't think i can really help XD

past obsidian
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I'm using shield charge, RT

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5% crit is really hard to work with if you don't have a shield with at least 100 es

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How much multi are you getting so far

honest ivy
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it's why i was going crit muarader

past obsidian
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I tried to build it in pob and got like 215% at best

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It feels pretty difficult to get enough crit and multi

honest ivy
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cause my main skill technically is rage vortex

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i'm just using shield crush for when i need to stack rage

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lemme check how much crit i was getting off my lvl 90 pob tree rq

hollow osprey
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I feel like Impale Crit SC/SST will be the maximum damage right

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But again not worth the investment

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Seeing how some shields have so little ES

honest ivy
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idk apparently alot of steamers have been impressed by it's mapping damage

past obsidian
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I mean shield crush damage is ok, but I had problem with clearing speedy stuff like legion

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Like it doesn't cover enough screen, but if you use SST you literally open everything up

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I don't know how to improve my clear with SST only as shield charge doesn't do enough damage to open up whites

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My shield is pretty good too, it's not 1700 or something, it's like 19xx

honest ivy
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try going for crit with ambush and seething fury instead of shield charge

pale flicker
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Atm I’m feeling kinda weird about the league. I’m playing and going along fine enough playing toxic rain. The flask nerf not letting me zoom is a downer but I’m raider so meh. The worst part for me is mana problem with casting toxic rain. Yet, if I use ballista totem I can just cheat it out. I’d rather cast it but I don’t want the mana cost obviously lol. I think it is an inconsistency in the ideas of the league to make triggered spells cost and spellslinger reserve more, but not make mines/traps and totems cost more.

celest hound
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Are there any tips or tricks to getting logbooks? I read something about "blowing up logbook markers" but I don't know what those look like.

gentle kayak
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Do we know what the top builds/skills are right now?

honest ivy
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ED contagion is still alive i think

gentle kayak
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i want the top tier investment shit!

proper widget
#

the new spiral helix skill is apparently sick

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it probably scales up real good

honest ivy
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unfortunately i don't htink anybody knows whats the top of the top yet

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you're better off trying to find your own secretly OP build most likely

proper widget
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theres an animate weapon/guardian summoner that looks very op

gentle kayak
#

u talking about Dom Blow?

placid drum
#

Trade site messed up?

honest ivy
past obsidian
#

How do you get 377 multi? My base tree only could hit 215

honest ivy
#

crit supports and seething fury

past obsidian
#

Are you using increase critical damage

honest ivy
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using Rathpith Globe as the shield

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remmeber SC isn't even my main skill so i'm not heavily focusing into it either XD

#

you could easily make a far better Sc tree

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only got in weapon shield seething fury SC with crit supports

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unfortunately i have to use shield charge to "replace" shield crush

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and i also can't throw on ambush

violet nymph
honest ivy
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well yeah thats just with weapona nd shield and seething on a non full crit build

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that build is a rage/crit build cause my main skill is rage vortex

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not to mention if you focused shield circles thats ALOT of tankiness

leaden crow
#

need some help here, how do you do this? I got the text, returned to him and nothing happened

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could not pick up

floral cobalt
#

something wrong with their store mtx rotation

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shits back on revenant shit again

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was on that like last week

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waiting like 3 weeks for a good store rotation and its been the same rotation like the last 2 weeks

mystic bolt
#

"Fixed a bug where The Reaper would sometimes try to consume non-minions."

Waitasecond...

Does that mean he tried to eat.. me??

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Looks at it suspiciously

floral cobalt
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Yeah i have no idea how youre supposed to scale melee at this point. Impales pretty gutted but seems to still be the only way hmm

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Pretty much impale > crit > standard stuff.

cunning blade
#

holy fuck

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under 40k, 3 days into league

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its probably late at night in western regions but still

honest ivy
#

you should be fine going rage crit melee

silk remnant
#

5 a.m. in europe, 12 a.m. in US

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People are definitely playing at this time of day /s

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I'm surprised it even has 30k right now

floral cobalt
#

Yeah its literally 1:30am EST right now lol

silk remnant
#

Don't people like, have to sleep before workday?

floral cobalt
#

I dont think things like gladiator or champion can go into a rage crit builds because theres no way to generate rage really and keep berserk up

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especially after the chain breaker changes.

honest ivy
#

well yeah but if you wanna scale melee htere you go

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one of the characters i'm leveling is a rage vortex shield crush crit rageserker

tardy wolf
#

Just finished my first map and uninstalled the game. had to finish my suffering there 😂

dry kindle
#

lol im way smarter than you. I didn't even bother to open game or even download new patch. Screw those people that always say 'why don't you try it before complaining'. They're dumb as fuck and think that people can't think for themselves or something.

empty hawk
#

slam totems are 100% bat shit garbage

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looked so fun but man

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total trash

woeful halo
#

Earthshatter totems bad @empty hawk ?

empty hawk
#

I tried a few different ones and they were all garbo

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self slam is better in every scenario

forest coyote
zinc lance
#

when do you unlock the other 3/4th of the headhunter

mild ingot
#

i have to say FR totems are busted as fuck

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im blowing up bosses with just 5l soul mantle and rain of splinters

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just did uber izaro and he die almost immediately

cunning blade
#

how do yall deal with the random hex on soul mantle@mild ingot

mild ingot
#

as a bonus curses on maps dont exist for you

cunning blade
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hm ok

floral cobalt
#

you think you can skimp out 10% chance to impale by just running 90% instead ?

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If i use the impale gem + get one set of nodes im at 90%.

cobalt falcon
#

10% not doing impale dmg

rich plinth
copper kernel
floral cobalt
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Yeah think ima reroll.

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If this feels this bad at level 78 with a 6L already aint no way its mystically gonna scale better.

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I think defenses is probably a big issue too, dual wielding in general feels kinda dead to me. I could just go Facebreakers and instantly do like 10x more damage probably on a 5 link.

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i dont think theres any chance in hell you can probably run an abyssus at this rate either. I expecting max block glancing blows DW to feel a bit better but it really just doesnt compared to 1h+shield.

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which kinda makes no sense because the DW trade off is supposed to be more damage less tankiness but i know for sure i can do more damage 1h+shield because i have already in past builds lol

violet nymph
#

Dw lost alot of perks long ago

floral cobalt
#

yeah, so it seems lol

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i dont think i could even get close damage without atleast a 500 pdps weapon compared to a fb or paradox+shield variant.

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Good thing is, i enjoy trapper so i guess i might just be running that again.

#

Thought i might swap over to just a facebreaker build instead.

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probably gonna eat some breakfast, watch some tv and stew on it for a bit before deciding.

floral cobalt
#

excellent got a pair of 800% facebreakers. now ill just have to farm some regret orbs sadly

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yeah wow without glancing blows and versatile you cant even cap spell block as well.

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I think if you went just versatile youd have a max potential of 65% as well, thats like 53 off tree and 8+4 off a corrupted anvil i think.

mild ingot
#

yes spell block was destroyed

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because necros were abusing it

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so instead of nerfing sources of +hp on block they simply killed block

floral cobalt
#

feelsbadman

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ight i think ima grind heist for currency and hopefully get enough regrets quick to swap to facebreakers.

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seems to be the best course of action.

violet nymph
#

I see people reroll suffixes and things with Rog but I can only buy? There is no such option for me. Is there something I need to do?

urban cypress
#

After you buy the item he will have crafting options for you. It is random on what he can do.

violet nymph
#

Can i get opinions on crazy build its not pob just plain text theory

silk remnant
ebon tree
#

Hi all, wanna check is discipline bug? i turned it on and i didnt received any ES

ruby crest
#

Does anyone have any zone locations where Expeditions form in big clumps? Blood Aqueduct is pretty bad, and Quarry isn't much better. A lot of them spawning in lines.

crimson stirrup
#

In hidden areas in logbook maps

violet nymph
#

Is there new bosses In this league?

devout osprey
#

yes

crimson stirrup
#

Check challenges. Defeat Expedition bosses

violet nymph
#

I’m console

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I’m curious how new bosses there is this league

devout osprey
violet nymph
#

Ok thank you

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This is going to be fun

ornate flower
#

So how does expedition works

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Bonuses i explode first applies to rest of chests and mobs?

devout osprey
#

yes

ornate flower
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Or other way

rough phoenix
#

btw if anyone gets the big crabs from harvest please DM me 🙏

devout osprey
#

asked global 6666? jet fuel

ornate flower
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So i have to explode best bonuses first

rough phoenix
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nah ive been taking a break

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nobody in there either

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god the crabs are so annoying to get

frozen blaze
#

that's what she said

silk remnant
#

mana multipliers buff, yay

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also, reroll currency IS too rare for my taste

silver ridge
#

About Rog upgrades, do you need to finish the upgrades on the spot or not?

potent fern
#

Apparently you can walk away and come back to it

silver ridge
#

Ah nice

pure pasture
#

does anyone know:
"Runic monsters are duplicated"
does both drop stuff?
or is the duplicate just there to annoy you?

naive gyro
#

Act 3 quest, lost expidition seems bug can i still complete even though im already on other acts?

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Quest on show on act and not on ther acts, after completing the campaign on act 3.. no more expedition shows on act 3 maps.

rough phoenix
past badger
#

You found a nose in the mines, well done

graceful stone
#

Good, it would smell terrible without one

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Ahem.

indigo wolf
#

Whew. Whiff that, exile.

graceful stone
#

That’s a juicy one

strong garnet
#

are the artifacts tradeable to other players?

past badger
#

Yeah afaik

tired spindle
#

Okay so I have to say, the layout of expedition areas can be really wack. Like impossible to place near the vendor but bonuses can still spawn there leading to chests and stuff you can't even place on if it's between the vendor and a wall. Also inconsistencies with mob density lead to some very underwhelming explosion options. Also not being able to chain down a ledge isn't great with all the other restrictions. Having to waste an entire charge to go over stairs

past badger
#

Yeah it does seem a bit wacko in some situations

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Dunno if thats normal or buggy though

tired spindle
#

Or times where even going max distance you can't reach a modifier and there's nothing I between to chain off of so you would just have to use 2 charges just for that

past badger
#

Yeah

tired spindle
#

I don't mean just no modifiers or chests in between I mean literally nothing.

rotund surge
#

How do you guys like your dmg? I'm on a 6L, just got into yellow maps and my dmg sucks.

past badger
#

Hmm, that why my 4link minions are ass in t1-3 maps?

tired spindle
#

My damage is balls but I'm also still on act7 trudging along slowly

violet nymph
#

I feel like BS isn't being applied correctly on single target

tired spindle
#

Like I tried to do some heist and just couldn't kill those tanks ass mobs

past badger
#

Expedition mobs hit like a truck as well

empty hawk
#

only if you jack them up

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but yes damage right now is just bad

#

How to farm better gear when you cant farm T16s

past badger
#

Little tiny baby steps instead of giant leaps pre 3.15

rotund surge
#

I also have RIPed a lot more this league. I normally make it to post level 90 with under 10 deaths now I'm at 82 with around 60 deaths.

strong sand
#

The runic mobs can be a little bs i think. They hit me for tick, tick, tick, TICK, tick, then a 0.0001 second 1 shot out of nowhere. Seems strange. Even doing the five D's of dodge all and still 1 shots.

#

Seems overtuned.

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I've died a TON to runic mobs, and then can go on a sweep spree of the whole map, idk.

violet nymph
#

Runic Elites looking at you like

rotund surge
#

Depending on what you put on the Runic mobs they are either extreme or non existing , but if you are not maxing them, they drop nothing.

strong sand
#

Exactly. I think the rewards should be higher for the risk, or the tuning lower (keep rewards same).

rotund surge
#

We will see how strong they will be when they buff the flask again

sour orchid
#

is there a lockout for quarry farm now? cant spawn any expedition mechanic, is there any info about it? cooldown time or something?

indigo wolf
#

What level are you?

sour orchid
#

74

indigo wolf
#

Quarry is area level 63

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So you can be max level 73 to spawn league mechanic

sour orchid
#

ow thats new stuff, kay

indigo wolf
#

It's been like that as long as I've been playing

sour orchid
#

its not new to me to farm delve/harvest/ultimatum in quarry

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it was just "meta" to farm there the stuff cuz it was faster then maps

indigo wolf
#

./shrug As far as I've known league content has always stopped spawning if you're 10+ levels above the zone

fallen raven
#

Hello, any good new builds?

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with the new skills

indigo wolf
#

Doubt quarry had any special rules since it's not even a special zone with respect to acts.

fallen raven
#

@rotund surgety big boy

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i was using

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but i dont even know the name of the new skills

sour orchid
#

all i remember is farming all day ultimatum in quarry and im sure it was above 73 but yeah seems correct what ur saying for now, thanks :)

shut ore
#

anyone else getting an issue where they can't pick up the ancient text in an expedition?

rotund surge
fallen raven
#

UHHH

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@rotund surgety i was searching for that

floral cobalt
#

new mystery box is pretty good. Got pretty much everything but the chest pieces and 1 back attachment.

#

some how manage to hit 4 overseer weapons though lol

#

wish it wouldve been what i needed instead

steel plinth
#

what does this modifier mean, how does it work?

#

i mean enchant*

storm crown
#

it gets used when a flask next to it is used

#

@steel plinth

noble sage
#

Good evening! Trick question about low life... Does the 50% apply to mobs as well as for players? Or it's the old low life for mobs?

strong garnet
floral cobalt
#

its pretty rng, i spent my pack points but i have duplicates of most things as well by 2-4

#

but that means i can make the combined armour pretty easily now and have the regular sets too

floral cobalt
#

but generally speaking if you buy them on a budget

#

the most you should buy is like 5 other wise youre gonna lose points with high duplicates

brazen mango
#

So if the rewards only apply to mob drops starting at the detonation site and continue on to points downstream, are the map mods also only found among mobs downstream from the assigned location or are they global to the event?

honest ivy
#

wdym?

#

like the log drop bonus?

brazen mango
#

wondering how it all works- the log drop bonus would be a reward and I assume it only occurs at the detonation and then points after. Was wondering about the mob mods, the dangerous ones?

honest ivy
#

the mob bonuses apply across the board the second you detonate the reward multipliers are the ones that downstream

brazen mango
#

ok that clarifies, thanks

honest ivy
#

so if you're popping a mobs penetrate 15% fire res then all mobs get the 15% fire res pen regardless of when the modifier is destroyed

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it's why it's risky to pop them regardless of order

forest coyote
#

Best Flask EVER

crisp tree
#

not bad for day 1 mapping

floral cobalt
#

Man, i wish infernal blow scaled into late game. Too bad it doesnt.

#

Miss old builds like facebreaker IB

#

fun to level with though, nice satisfying pops.

#

I mean maybe berserker would work since its a damage ascendancy and its hard to not have things work on it.

#

But yeah.

sturdy wasp
#

How many here had HH already

violet nymph
#

Can someone explain me what I have to do with the quest "Search for Ancient Kalguuran texts at Expedition sites"?

rough phoenix
#

should i just take it as it is? 🤨

rotund surge
#

You need a very specific reason to use a Jewel that has no life (or ES) roll on it.

silk remnant
#

so, mana cost changes coming today or before Friday?

#

67 mana cost for something as spammy as crackling lance/ball lightning is a bit too much when you have 100 unreserved mana

#

or maybe I just shouldn't use trinity support kekw

sullen scroll
#

if i'm understanding it correctly... in Expedition?
Skull Sticks = more Mobs
Burger Banners = more Item Quantity

rotund surge
#

small skull stick = small monster
big skull stick = blue/yellow monster
(white, yellow, orange) Chest Banner = Chest (some positive attribute added to the chest if the banner was yellow or orange, but I don't know what attribute that is. My guess is that orange chests have a higher chance to drop a unique.)
Alter = a positive effect, like Item Quantity. A negative effect that buffs the mobs that spawn.

cursive condor
floral cobalt
#

Youve entered the minecraft realm it looks like.

potent fern
sullen scroll
#

yeah i think the special mods like X immunity only per remnant pack

potent fern
#

I think it applies retrospectively but only once the remnant has popped

violet nymph
#

It doesnt apply retrospectively.
No mod does.

potent fern
#

I'll have a double check when I get home

grand pivot
#

the quest telling me to return to the npc but no exclamation mark or anything

#

when i tried return to HO the quest prompted back to find ancient kalguran text

#

is this some kind of bug or only me?

violet nymph
#

@grand pivot bug

grand pivot
#

i see

#

ty

#

this has been bothering me like 2 days

upper quest
#

ggg said this: To clarify, if a new piece of saga dialogue is available through Dannig, the quest has progressed successfully. There are some problems that make it unclear whether anything has happened, which present as you describe here. We're working on a fix.

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check if you have new dialogue on the left side

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I got the new lore after clicking on Dannig, every time it's a new piece of lore, but some players don't receive them

sharp fiber
#

Anybody know what is drop chance for expedition map? I am level 76 and did around.. 35 maps but so far i saw only 1 map whilst leveling

glass folio
#

ive gotten 8 or so

#

havent done a map yet

rotund surge
#

got 1 while leveling and 1 in maps, done 4 conquerors and around 50 map completion

alpine pagoda
#

Ye, I’ve had four drop while leveling the campaign twice. None while mapping yet, but I’m still in whites.

crimson stirrup
#

You have a chance to be able to buy them when refreshing exchange boy

civic bear
#

Hello I really start ot hink I'm doing something significantly wrong Im currently in T2-T3 maps and everyone say how rewarding this league is if you use vendors and logbooks but I dont drop any reroll items. Im trying to set blast chain from most "good" remnants to get as much buffs I need (so if I get runic monster have increased chance to drop logbook I start with that one and then stack as many runic monster + quantity from monsters/runic monsters). However I didnt dropped single one

#

is there any comprehensive guide since Im stuck with my gear progression since 0 currency 🙂

storm crown
#

why is dannig so damn rare in maps..

worn shale
#

anyone running breachstones

crimson stirrup
#

Logbook drop rate is pretty low. Even with 50% more it's not great

low forum
#

F price scaling is not even worthy for 3100 Greater black scythes

#

but yea scarry to haggle 1500 scythes

indigo wolf
#

You don't still spend resources if he rejects your offers, do you?

zinc lance
#

you don't but he just gets rid of the item

dreamy pine
#

Anyone else just starting a character down to play together? :]

rough phoenix
storm crown
#

did they disable quarry to spawn league content? XD

tawny pasture
#

it depend of your lvl

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if you are too high lvl it wont spawn

snow tinsel
#

Where do you find the ancient kalguuran texts? Haven't seen any and finished act 3

haughty oracle
#

if i never reroll the inventory, would the new vendors keep their stuff from act 1 to act 10 ?

timid geyser
potent fern
#

well, I did some testing and sure enough the remnants monster buffs only apply to monsters that are unearthed at the same time or later than the remnant popping - earlier mobs are not affected at all, nor is it retrospective as I previously thought - must have misremembered something!

upper quest
snow tinsel
upper quest
#

seems to be rng, I got at least 6 and I haven't played that much, still in white maps

indigo wolf
#

I've gotten only 1 and I've done pretty much every event I come across (only skipping them if the area layout was such that I didn't find it while going through the area)

#

But I have not mapped much, only killed Baran once. I am leveling a second character

halcyon veldt
lone venture
#

why are some expedition mobs like unkillable for me in a tier 2 map?

#

Is there some sort of buff or invulnerablity that are given to the mobs sometimes? I'm so confused x.x

halcyon veldt
lone venture
#

I have no clue I just build my chain I guess I made them immune to physical 😦

#

TIL x.x

mortal folio
#

Any easy way to kill those shield mobs? Or do I have to wait for their shield to drop

#

Feels like i hit them a good dozen times without their shield going away so i figure im doing something wrong

potent fern
#

you can always check the mods by hovering over the icon in the bottom right which brings up the window

#

immunity mods are highlighted yellow

indigo wolf
#

There is also a "monsters take 30% reduced damage" that only shows up in dark blue like the other monster mods, it can be difficult to notice

#

And that skeletal rhoa creature somehow either has tons of life or some kind of damage reduction itself

#

Or certain other modifiers that your damage may depend upon heavily (like ignite and ailment immunity)

halcyon veldt
#

cause i had 60% reduced damage taken in one map

pastel condor
#

the 30% dodge definitely stacks

#

accidentally got three of those once when I wasn't paying attention. it was very annoying.

floral cobalt
#

lol got distracted with my old hideout

#

forgot how fucking good my old hideout was and made a few more tweaks to it.

next epoch
indigo wolf
#

Quarry is only area level 63

#

People say they were farming ultimatums there at 88 last league, but I can't imagine why quarry specifically would be exempt from the 10-level range of league mechanics that's present in all other zones. Quarry is just a random Act 9 zone

edgy sorrel
#

For new league - is scion still unlocked if already unlocked

devout osprey
#

unlocked, yes

edgy sorrel
#

Thanks

sharp iron
#

Tried to draw Gwennen, got mixed results. I'll try to draw the other 3 as well.

violet nymph
pearl heart
#

is poe down?

wooden zephyr
#

down for patch

hollow shore
muted falcon
#

Are there any guides on haggling with Tujen? I have an ex in his shop I want to haggle down, but I'm scared of him straight up refusing to sell

violet nymph
#

so 3000 base cost, go for 1200, and then he'll typically give you a range of like 1300-2000. and you just go for the 50% of that range. so like 1750

#

it's not failed once this league (for me)

muted falcon
violet nymph
#

you can test it on some smaller ones if you want to be cautious and test it.

violet nymph
muted falcon
slender temple
#

did you guys actually test this new feature . i cant see behind this haha

stark rivet
#

Have they fixed the bug with the lost expedition quest?

silk remnant
#

yay, mana mults toned down

#

now I will probably be able to use precision at last xD

potent fern
slender temple
potent fern
#

it existed like only for Rog even before the patch I think?

#

not exactly intuitive

storm crown
#

Havent seen dannig in maps at all done over 50 maps without him

#

Havent seen a loggbok droppe in maps either

#

Even when picking The notables that increases chance for logbooks

hybrid cosmos
#

i only do the expeditions with logbooks and after 10 times without a logbook i even stoped trying

#

also anyone knows what MapTier is Coves? cant find it

dusty cove
#

3 x exalted from a runic drops more currency feels good

midnight crest
#

I was able to greatly increase the currency I am earning from Expedition by with a pretty simple process. Read the remnants and decide whether you want to focus on chests or monsters. Collect all the remnants of that type then save the monsters at the end. Every time you blow up a remnant it applies to that pack and all future explosions. Be...

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empty crystal
#

what's new about that? he just says what was discussed in this channel all along

#

that the chain matters

#

and I hate youtube's suggestions 😄

midnight crest
rough phoenix
#

lvl 83 area

pliant stream
#

is anyone else experiencing serious latency issues? i cant play since yesterday. every other internet action is fine, just not poe. and i dont know what i could do. tried every realm, its allways the same. maybe 5 mins of stable connection and after that its just a ping pong of my latency going from 30 to 6k and repeat. its damn fucking frustrating

hybrid cosmos
#

yeah same and i normaly have 5 ms my leap slam is rubber banding everywhere sometimes

indigo wolf
#

I had minor problems yesterday for about an hour. It depend on the zone, sometimes I had normal stable 60 but it would spike to 2000

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Then while standing in town it literally spiked to 40,000 but never kicked me.

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But as I say it cleared up after an hour, probably not the same problem you are having.

pliant stream
#

i never had this issue since betrayl xD ye same for me, even in hideout. i just stand around and my game lags crazy

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and i dont see any new reddit posts or something like that. thats why im wondering. seems like not that many ppl have such an issue

unborn jungle
#

hey i'm currently building my first character this league and i was wondering if someone got the craft for "trigger socketed spell with 150% more cost every 8 second?" cause i need this craft on my weapon (axe) but only wand are sold with this craft

floral cobalt
tribal briar
#

Honestly kinda disappointed in this league

#

has not felt good

winged acorn
#

its aight

#

i mean ill take the content

midnight crest
winged acorn
#

for the dynamite thing do you just try and get all those modifiers

#

because thats what ive been doing and its working fine

#

idk if theres some other method

pastel condor
#

I don't always go for modifiers. Some of them aren't worth spending dynamite pathing to.

median wagon
#

anyone else having logbooks disappear when ctrl-clicking into stash?

versed marlin
#

If you've turned on your affinity then they're auto going into your expedition locker

median wagon
#

oh right forgot that could store them, ty

nimble bough
#

holy shit was this a rough map

violet nymph
#

who do you think is the worst new vendor?

wooden zephyr
#

gwennen

violet nymph
#

same

wooden zephyr
#

i think it's by design; her reroll currency is the most common

violet nymph
#

I just spend like 200 of her highest tier currency and I got absolute garbage lol. over half was magic items

nimble bough
#

dannig I'd say is the worse not had any reroll drops for him yet

violet nymph
#

thats unlucky I think

wooden zephyr
#

dannig rerolls are really powerful

swift wren
#

thanks tujen 🙂

barren crescent
#

Has anyone been able to figure out does the modifier for "relic monsters have 35% chance of logbooks" work at all? I feel I've been getting more logbooks from just monster quant modifiers than that remnant modifier.

nimble bough
#

does anyone have matriarch unique boss before innocence boss fight on act 5? or just started act 5

abstract pelican
#

do Expedition NPCs keep scaling with levels or stop at some point?

brisk orchid
#

I mean I'm at 84 rn and my mate said something about 83 being a good point so

#

Take what you will out of that

steel plinth
#

pls

#

how does this work

#

i tried everything that there is to try

#

enlighten me qq

abstract pelican
#

I see ilvl83 bases regularly but I wonder if it goes higher with level

#

in other channel ppl answered ilvl85 exist

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@steel plinth just hit a rare/unique and it'll go off?

steel plinth
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I swear to god, i've tried it for 2 days

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i thought i went crazy

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but no it doesn't work at all

abstract pelican
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what do u hit with

steel plinth
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I am using golems

abstract pelican
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do YOU hit enemies with anything?

steel plinth
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No

abstract pelican
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well try it

steel plinth
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ok

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wow it only works with normal attacks

indigo wolf
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That should be obvious by "you"?

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Skills/stats/triggers/etc that specify "you" aren't activated by minions, either.

midnight wagon
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hey friends, i moved some gems around and lost my spectres. anyone around who can let me desecrate some Frost Auto Scouts in their hideout?

winged acorn
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yay first exalted

devout osprey
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so how is that build working

winged acorn
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pretty stinky poopoo

devout osprey
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nvm confused it with the other skill

winged acorn
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what?

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what other skill

devout osprey
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the one where you channel and the circles expand

winged acorn
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oh

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nah its totems with the forbbiden rite

solemn nest
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Wow. I think this league is legit the first that's made me actually rage quit and decide to just not play, because the net outcome just makes me irritated.

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So well done there I guess... It worked.

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Hope people over all like it though?

winged acorn
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its a hit or miss

solemn nest
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Makes sense. None of the skills/builds i like seem to work in this league, and the monsters from the league mechanic just seem overtuned to me - at least using the builds I have tried so far. So at the end of the day I just end up having to either play on very low tier maps and play it safe, so I get no challenge, and just have to waste time. Or I have to pick the specific builds that do work, and possibly forgo the league content if I want to actually push the over all map level up for more of an overall challenge...

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I'm sure it works for some builds/play styles.

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For me so far its pretty much just been frustration, unless I just skip it. Which in itself is just sort of infuriating.

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Guess a really tanky slow build might be the last ditch effort if I can find one that looks fun, and isn't the same one everone else I see uses.

winged acorn
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yeah a lot of builds now have lower damage and everything else hurts so much

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i feel a lot squishier this league

solemn nest
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I literally cant level up

winged acorn
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are you late game

solemn nest
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Cause I'll get randomly oneshot so often

winged acorn
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yep

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the new league mechanic is brutal

solemn nest
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Just isn't fun anymore

solemn nest
winged acorn
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jeez

solemn nest
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I'm pretty sure I could push the map difficulty a fair bit further if I skipped the league mechanic

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But I mean... whats the point then? xD

floral cobalt
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i rerolled from dual strike melee to crit fb again, league/changed very anti melee

winged acorn
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ikr

solemn nest
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I'm getting to that point though. Just to level up a bit and see if it gets any better. But I'm not seeing it.

solemn nest
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The ones I've tried so far at least.

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The excavation mobs just instantly oneshot me every time without fail almost

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Even though I breeze through the maps itself with more or less zero effort

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Literally gotten to the point where I'll switch to a ranged skill just to try to clear them from a distance... Even though my build isn't made for it

floral cobalt
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imo ive played melee for a long time, like strike melee, i always try it once every league and this is probably the worst its felt in a long time.

solemn nest
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Just cause meleeing them is impossible...

floral cobalt
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feels like if you want to experience melee now you definitely need to go berserker for the more multi and rage.

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Duelist damage felt extremely low this time around

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And dont get me wrong, i didnt pick the most offensive ascendancy, i did a gladiator, but its a good mix of defense and offense. But it felt terrible at 80 with strikes.

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Champion might be better now if you dont mind capping out your block via tree/gear.

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Since it has intimidate and perma fortify

solemn nest
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Lol. Just noticed. The mob has three types of extra damage modifiers plus resistances to all my damage types. Thats cool... xD
No wonder I'm getting steamrolled.

floral cobalt
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Which gives you 1 free gem by not needing fortify support and intimidate is a 10% damage increase, more multiplier because its increased after all the other damage calcs.

solemn nest
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Do all the updates apply to standard league as well btw? Aside from the Excavation stuff obviously...

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Never skipped a league before, so I'm legitemately not sure if just playing standard league would let me play the previous version, like prior leagues.

topaz orbit
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Yep, standard gets all balance changes other than the league mechanic

solemn nest
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Welp

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Back to Diablo 2 then... or something. at this point... xD

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rip

topaz orbit
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The update actually bricked a bunch of people's standard characters because the support gem mana changes pushed reservation costs over 100%

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Grim Dawn or Last Epoch? Those are my go-to games to scratch the ARPG itch when I'm not interested in PoE.

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Chronicon is also good.

floral cobalt
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i think the biggest problem with melee right now though nerfs aside, is yorue pretty forced into playing it one way other another. As far as im aware, bleed/poison melee is still dog shit.

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Which leaves impale

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and impale scaling is really good so theres no reason not to play it either.

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GGG always kinda just not on the mark with melee. but a big amount of the clunkiness ive noticed now is strikes missing because monsters move more than last patch

solemn nest
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And to me its just not very fund in a multiplayer game to be obviously weaker than the people you play with

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Which has been the case so far.

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End up always being second fiddle as it were

floral cobalt
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imo id just play the meta shield throw, at least it seems fun and on top of that its cheap

solemn nest
solemn nest
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Why do I keep doing this. I just want it to work and be fun. Maybe I'll try another build some other day, but this burnt me. I'm out for now - the random overtuned things at this point are just ruining the experience for me.
If I wanted this kind of frustration I'd play hardcore. I don't.

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Sleep well all of ya. I'm outta this for now.

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Don't know if there is anywhere to give constructive feedback, but I hope something changes at some point. I like games to be difficult. But russian roulette is not my idea of difficulty.

violet nymph
lusty stream
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hey, this is my first season playing POE and I have quite a few questions regarding using poe.trade to help gear up before I start mapping (just finished all the acts) also should I do epilogue?

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I'm going armageddon brand elementalist

eager charm
lusty stream
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oh ok! thank you

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just trying to pick up some gear that will get me started in maps, especially a new staff. is it worth trying to get my first 6 link? would that be easier to do on a staff or chest?

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or should I just get 5 links for now

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also rog seems to be OP for getting gear

eager charm
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The “ease” of getting a 6l is dependent on how lucky you are, but most builds can go through content on a 5l

neon geyser
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Rog is pog

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he gave me a 6L in act 10 :D

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on ssf too :D

tired spindle
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Anyone else playing blade trap? That Trap is insane. Even with my shit gear it demolishes rares and bosses in seconds

autumn locust
tired spindle
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I'm not really in endgame yet. Also does pob have the new skills yet? I tried to make one but nothing else is comparable to blade trap to substitute in pob

autumn locust
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it does now

tired spindle
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Cool do I need to manually update it?

high crow
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What weapon are you using

autumn locust
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just hte built in updater works

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idk if thats the same for the non community fork version but i assume ur using that one

tired spindle
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@high crow I'm just using binos dagger. Just a cheap easy to get starter weapon. You want something with high crit and flat phys

storm crown
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Kinda wished they made expedition bit easier to get by making all mobs and chest get all The modifiera you pick.

floral cobalt
mild ingot
floral cobalt
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Id assume stuff like ele buzz saw is probably back because of the spectral throw changes but ive never been one to playing ST, didnt even when it was OP.

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Maybe ill look into some melee ele conversion builds sometime though, a lot has changed in 4 years. I know berserker Infernal blow is something i could more than likely do with AOF.

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nice chest lol

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Im still leveling my second char acter the horror that was my dual strike starter i went to 80 with.

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Should be back in maps and stuff soon though

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kinda sucks being soo far behind but at least theres no rush for me this time

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yo lets fucking go baby twitch drops

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i was gonna watch it already because pvp is funny in poe but now i have even more of a reason to

wanton flower
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are expedition mods for mobs applied to mobs spawned before those mods were added?

indigo wolf
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Buffs to monsters seem to be, based on my experience with immunities (but I could just be bad at noticing the order)

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But reward modifiers definitely are not

floral cobalt
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buffs are applied to all mobs spawned based on the chain same way the other mods are.

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But every mod thereafter is applied to those other mobs too

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Cause ive accidentally hit stuff like phys immunity further in the chain

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lol whisper a guy to buy his helmet, says someone else bought it after i whispered him 5 times while he was afk.

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Responds with "sorry someone else bought it unless you can beat it"

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so what youre saying is you didnt sell it and want to scam me out of more currency because i whispered you multiple times while AFK. Nice.

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Ill just buy another reduced reserve helmet for half the price and still get 7% total reduced reserve my guy. lol

potent fern
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See I swear I've hit Phys Immune and been fucked by earlier mobs because of it, but I did actually record a test in a logbook where I had "mobs don't give flask charges" halfway down the chain, waited for it to pop and then was able to get charges from the prior mobs

violet nymph
potent fern
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Yeah, that's what I concluded from my test, but as above people are still unsure

timid gull
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when did league start/when does it end?

copper kernel
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started last friday i think?

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!leagues

brisk capeBOT
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Temporary leagues typically last 3 months, contain a unique new mechanic and do not allow players access to their existing characters and items. Most players play the temporary leagues.

Standard is the permanent league and has been running since Path of Exile's launch. There are many more items in the economy, deflating their value. The population is lower than the temporary leagues. If you can only play a small amount of time per week and want to go very far in the game, this can be a good game mode.

If you are a new player, it is strongly recommended to play in the current temporary league.

For details on what happens when a temporary league ends, see https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091028

The Expedition league will begin:
PC - Friday July 23rd
Console - Wednesday July 28th

This information was last updated on July 2nd.

timid gull
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ah ty

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so not even a week in

copper kernel
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pretty much

timid gull
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honestly heard some bad things about this league but still wanna play

rotund surge
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I'm in this weird state. I want to play poe. But my build turned out that its just to expensive to make it work for yellow (lol) maps. So, I need to level a new char. But I don't want to level again. I want to play, but at the same time I don't or can't.

timid gull
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orbs of regret and just play same class

rotund surge
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Its SRS "Aura stacker", I don't have enough orbs of regret to get anywhere. On top of that it is a scion, that class has zero build diversity.

barren crescent
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"aura stacker" should have been a clear warning of the expected gear requirements

floral cobalt
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Damn i never thought playing crit facebreaker cyclone would feel soo slow.

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Granted builds not 100% done and im on a 5L but fuck dude it doesnt even compare to league league leveling at all.

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Wonder what my endgame numbers are gonna look like

halcyon veldt
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The remnant that gives you 35% chance for map drops doesn't work, right?

rotund surge
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(And I have mana problems, but I guess thats a given right now)

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My build is not far enough yet to turn on Wrath, Anger and Hatred. The problem is, if these three auras don't fix my dmg problem, when I turn them on, the build is fucked.

storm crown
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aura are like 20% more damage give or take

violet nymph
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Is there bug with Maven witnessing? Did like 200 maps didnt get single witness some stay 9/10

light adder
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Did you toggle the button on map device?

maiden coral
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Found Vorana by chance in a logbook, was pretty neat 😄

wheat trail
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vorana was a fun boss

craggy hinge
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Expedition Locker? Well that's new!

neat rover
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you guys have any luck with logbook drops?

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i am doing something wrong maybe?

light adder
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Do you blow up the logbook dropchance remnants first?

neat rover
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well if i can reach them yes

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not always it is possible

light adder
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Could be just rng in that case, didn´t map that much and got 10 or so so far

neat rover
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i see

maiden coral
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gotten much better today i think
Idk if its the rng or if they updated drops

tranquil herald
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anyone have syndicate operative spectres i can snag one of? let me know via pm on discord please

ocean narwhal
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Logbooks only really drop from runic monsters for me

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so I tend to prioritize them

vestal escarp
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how many phases does olroth have exactly

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okay so you literally can't get boss killers for olroth

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because the 'place explosives' mechanic can only be set by the instance owner apparently

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great job ggg

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100/10 design

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also 3 phases

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including multiple immunity things and he speeds up

floral cobalt
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anyone elses heartseeker weapon not in their mtx inventory ?

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the chicken is but not the weapon mtx

wicked moss
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does anyone have that picture of the list of good unique gambles from Gwennen?

wicked moss
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Thank you very much

floral cobalt
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huehue that guy who didnt sell me that hat earlier now has it listed at half the price LUL

lilac yew
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just gambled 2/5 simple robes

floral cobalt
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Its extra funny because i bought a helmet for half the price that essentially does the same even though its a T2 enchant. Its a Flesh and Stone 20% reduce reserve which is 7% total, if i got the T1 30% it would be better but the T2 is equiv to the other enchant i wanted so it worked out.

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Ill have to farm lab myself though for the 30% version now instead.

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Im progressing soo slow this expansion compared to ultimatum. By this same time in ultimatum league i legit was decked out and probably had like 30~exalts in currency.

misty falcon
abstract nymph
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are we on a new hotfix again?

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it seems like they removed the double reaper skill interaction, if you use the second skill you just summon a reaper with those links instead of making it attack

hybrid cosmos
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yes they did

woven sentinel
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just got an expedition where every single chest dropped a eye jewel
hahahah
made out with 300c+

rich bolt
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Has the logbook drop rate buff gone online yet?

violet nymph
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@rich bolt yes

rich bolt
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Has anyone noticed any effect though?

livid lake
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0 * 54 still 0

strong sand
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Yes, I got 3 just last night, out of maybe 20-25 maps, before I had 0 for probably 100-125 maps.

Not sure when they changed it, but I got lucky yesterday.

worldly sedge
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hey guys, whats the logbook symbol with the sword and red triangle?

potent fern
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Heist

frosty aurora
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ya'll know if the "increased quantity of artifacts found in excavated chests" is retroactive?

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cough (retroactive - extending in scope or effect to a prior time or to conditions that existed or originated in the past)
Like do i have to wait for this one particularly to explode before opening all the chests or is it including this one and all after it.

potent fern
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the mods of a remnant, both positive and negative, apply only to the chests/mobs that are unearthed in the explosion that pops the remnant or afterwards

indigo wolf
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Remnants apply their effects to the current and all subsequent explosions.
If you blow that up, previous chests that were revealed before that remnant was broken will not benefit.

potent fern
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already unearthed chests/mobs are not modified by later remnant mods

jade crest
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Not sure if this is the right place, so I just started SSFHC for the first time (Currently lvl 30) Sort of as a troll/I suppose i hate myself abit. And I'm just wondering asides from the standard "be overleveled/Resists capped and have high hp" is there anything I should be aware specially in regards of the league mechanics?

indigo wolf
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Pay close attention to the mods on the remnants. Not just the yellow immunities, some of the basic "dark blue" mods can be dangerous too (like chance to freeze, shock, or crit, etc)

jade crest
indigo wolf
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'Fraid I only play trade myself so I don't know deep tricks like that.

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Mostly just that you can craft life (with open prefix) or resist (with open suffix) on rares to help cover missing resistances once you get Helena

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I know some vendor recipes but they're all damage (flat damage to spells on wands, +1 all spell gems, phys mod on weapons, etc)

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I guess pick up and ID gear in slots that you feel are "weak", of base types that are useful (i.e. don't bother ID'ing ES/int gear if you're going melee as a marauder)

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Rog (one of the league NPCs) might have some opportunities to craft half decent stuff while you're leveling. I haven't used him much myself.

jade crest
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okay, thanks for the tips

elder night
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any visual cheat sheet with items worth gambling for with gwennen?

light adder
elder night
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exactly what I was looking for, thank you ❤️

light adder
elder night
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yup, using it too, tnx

maiden sluice
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Can you get more than 1 passive skill on small cluster jewels?

frosty aurora
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No

maiden sluice
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Thank you

potent bay
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Are Runic monsters considered magic/rare?

livid apex
vestal escarp
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has anyone been optimizing their exped farming

hybrid cosmos
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did they lowered the logbooks again? Had 4 encounters with more logbooks and 1 encoutner with 100% logbooks and got zero. While this afternoon i got 1-2 logbooks per encounter?

past badger
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Rng

hybrid cosmos
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looks like it :/

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i mean its gambling league what did i expect

past badger
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Its a bitch

empty crystal
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increased quantity of 0 is still 0

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sacrifice an exalted for the RNG god or something

hybrid cosmos
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zero ex actually XD but 14 blight maps

past badger
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Buy my rng for 2ex, guaranteed returns

empty crystal
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the cake is a lie

barren crescent
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Are the large skulls on sticks quaranteed runic monster or not?

livid lake
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ye

mild pine
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Do specific logbook locations consistently have the same kinds of better remnants? E.g. does reef always have breach and scarabs?

devout osprey
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grimro or whatever his name is said so. he is mostly right

violet nymph
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anyone know the stats for player retention thus far?

hybrid cosmos
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50%~

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day 7

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but only steam